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Speaker 1: all of my guests are nonnes so list again this

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Speaker 1: week's episode, so I'm super excited to speak to my

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Speaker 1: guests and she would share her journey on being one

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Speaker 1: of the top panting sellers on many platforms. So, so,

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Speaker 1: my guests, how are you doing? Hi, I'm great, Thanks

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Speaker 1: for having me. Nice. So this conversation is way overdue

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Speaker 1: because I feel like, if I'm not mistaken, I think

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Speaker 1: I reached out to you like last year quite possibly,

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Speaker 1: or it's been at least top of year. Again, put

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Speaker 1: my word on that that it's been at least half

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Speaker 1: a year. So before the beginning, we have a line

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Speaker 1: of comment because I did my researching you, so we

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Speaker 1: both love to read. Nice. If I'm not mistaken, you're

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Speaker 1: in school for entrepreneurship. Yes, I am. I got my

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Speaker 1: masses an entrepreneurship and general management. Okay, awesome. Where you

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Speaker 1: live there is where I want to currently visit. That's

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Speaker 1: like my top three places to visit really okay, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Arizona is definitely beautiful. Yeah, it's so nice. So besides

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Speaker 1: telling your panties, what else do you offer? What else

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Speaker 1: do you do? Well? I don't. Entertainment is by main

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Speaker 1: source and income. Um, my panties selling school is actually

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Speaker 1: starting to be a really nice source of residual income

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Speaker 1: for me. On the outside of selling panties. What I've

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Speaker 1: actually been shining away from a bit. Um, I guess

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Speaker 1: we can get on get into that and you know,

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Speaker 1: in a couple of minutes or you know, whenever we

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Speaker 1: get into that. UM. But I also am a professional dominatrix. UM.

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Speaker 1: I do content production. UM, I do paid companionship like

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Speaker 1: online girlfriend experience. UH, professional cuddling in person, which is

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Speaker 1: totally legal. UM if you have never heard about that

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Speaker 1: professional cuddling. UM. So I do a lot of things

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Speaker 1: that have to do with basically making people happy. I'm

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Speaker 1: a service provider. UM. I offer many services. So my

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Speaker 1: next question was do you enjoy this service? Doesn't the others?

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Speaker 1: But you said you shine away from it. I really

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Speaker 1: enjoy selling pennies, and you know, it's something that I

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Speaker 1: still do if you know the opportunity presents itself. UM.

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Speaker 1: But I've been doing this for ten years, so you know,

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Speaker 1: I kind of I guess go through seasons with you know,

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Speaker 1: what I enjoy, what I find enjoyable, what I feel

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Speaker 1: like doing at the moment to make income, what you

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Speaker 1: know is nice. That is sometimes the flexibility that being

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Speaker 1: an entrepreneur gives you. It gives you the flexibility to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: I don't really feel like doing this, um right now.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take it into a different direction because

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Speaker 1: I am my own boss. Mm hmm. I don't have

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Speaker 1: to tell myself. No, I hired you to be a cashier,

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Speaker 1: so you know you definitely can't do anything else because

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Speaker 1: this is what I hired you for, all right. I'm

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Speaker 1: not locked into that. And it's it's nice. And I

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Speaker 1: know one video I saw because I was like, damn,

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Speaker 1: you gotta have a lot of underwear to be doing

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Speaker 1: this for over ten years on and off, and you

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Speaker 1: said you had like over two Yep, I still have.

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Speaker 1: I keep a nice inventory about thewear. I can't say

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Speaker 1: I still have all those pairs you know that I

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Speaker 1: mentioned in that video. I still have a nice inventory

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Speaker 1: that's always always getting added to. Right. How much would

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Speaker 1: you say you've made since you started? Um, there's really

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Speaker 1: no telling, mam. I mean I could look at my

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Speaker 1: my first property I bought. It will be paid off

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Speaker 1: mm hmm putting in part time hours. Right. Do you

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Speaker 1: think it's um oversaturated now? Because I feel like a

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Speaker 1: my perception, because you've got to understand, I came out,

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Speaker 1: because of course, you know, technology has been evolving since

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Speaker 1: literally I was a baby. But UM, I do feel

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Speaker 1: got on the industry and we were camming on you know,

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Speaker 1: really crappy, um, really crappy webcams. Now people are you

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Speaker 1: you know, they might have been around, but they really

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Speaker 1: weren't around when I first when I first started to

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Speaker 1: they weren't nearly as popular or mainstream as they are now.

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Speaker 1: So I know you was introduced to sending your pennies

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Speaker 1: use underwear. Yes, I got started in the adult industry actually,

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Speaker 1: like before I was even eighteen. I first got introduced

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Speaker 1: a decent amount of effort into, was becoming a cam girl.

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Speaker 1: And when you're new, um to camming man, all these

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Speaker 1: like fetishes and different things that people will ask for,

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Speaker 1: well like really surprise you, Like if you're not familiar,

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Speaker 1: you honestly, you honestly might think some of these people

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Speaker 1: that at first with some requests? But they're not necessarily

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Speaker 1: It's not a joke because I really have beca I know,

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Speaker 1: I introduced my home girl, she's a phone sex operator,

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Speaker 1: and she was saying and how like people are accept

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Speaker 1: for her irlobe irlobe right, how are we gonna give

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Speaker 1: you our earlobe, right, and she was like, people think

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Speaker 1: She said, you can make mad money to wear toilet

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Speaker 1: paper clean x dental floss sold tooth brushes. So what

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Speaker 1: made you decide to like initially just go for go

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Speaker 1: for a plash into it? Um m hmm. Well, I've

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Speaker 1: that isn't most people's experiences, because of course, it's best

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Speaker 1: So I don't want to say that I became full

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Speaker 1: high school, I had already moved out of my parents house. Um,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't staying with like the most savory people, and

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Speaker 1: I wasn't working in the adult industry. Smartly. Now, by

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Speaker 1: the time I turned one, I don't even know if

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Speaker 1: that's a word smartly, but y'all, y'all know what I meant. Um,

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Speaker 1: By the time I turned one, UM, I wasn't in

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Speaker 1: I had a criminal record. Um, I just wasn't in

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Speaker 1: UM some I don't know, entry entry level jobs, UM,

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Speaker 1: We all know that working an entry level job just

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Speaker 1: And I don't know why it's not because, of course

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Speaker 1: supply the quality of life that I want. I still

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Speaker 1: can't even say that. You know, I'm living the best

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Speaker 1: M Are you happy? Um? I am happy. Um. Of

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Speaker 1: course I've been through I've been through trauma in my life,

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Speaker 1: dealing with. But I'm as happy as I can be. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm successful, right, I'm here. Well, We're gonna bring her

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Speaker 1: back to the show, y'all because initially I've found her

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Speaker 1: many platforms. But I've discovered that she has such a

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Speaker 1: that we can U share your life up until now,

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Speaker 1: because I think you're story is just like like your

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Speaker 1: be delighted to come back. Yeah. So, I know there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of sites out that if you can sell

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Speaker 1: you underwear, I was, so, which one do you prefer? UM.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of sites. UM. That answer has

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Speaker 1: changed over the years, UM, Panny, panty deal, dot com.

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Speaker 1: It's probably, well, it's not probably. It is one of

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Speaker 1: the biggest, oldest, most popular platforms that you can sell

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Speaker 1: on UM. But with popular platforms UM that have been

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Speaker 1: I thought the market was oversaturated. So, now that I've

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Speaker 1: I used to be uh top seller on panty Deal,

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Speaker 1: I've gone more independent UM and like to post on

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Speaker 1: smaller platforms and in smaller communities like Reddit, groups, social media,

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Speaker 1: that's something you need to consider before you even decide

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Speaker 1: That's definitely a big thing to consider UM, because I'm

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Speaker 1: like certain company rules and procedures of course, so you

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00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't be employable, but you don't really get any like

426
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: benefits that you would get from being an employee. M Um.

427
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 1: So I would say that to say this is one

428
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: of the biggest cons in my opinion about being in

429
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: the industry is just dealing with with all the changes,

430
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: and you know, usually in my opinion, the changes are negative.

431
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: Like as you deal with UM, people powerful, powerful people

432
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: in positions where they have lots of money and you know,

433
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,239
Speaker 1: have a lot of people behind them, decide that they

434
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: don't want sex workers to really be able to do

435
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: sex work, like their mission statement is to end the

436
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: commercial sex trade. Um. When you have people who have

437
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: that's their business to quota, that's like all they do. Um,

438
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: being in this industry difficult. Um. You said it sounded

439
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: like I'm over panty selling, and it's not really I'm

440
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: over panty selling because y'all panty sellings like pretty kosher.

441
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: I would say panty selling is gonna be one of

442
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: the sectors of the industry where you deal with like

443
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: people attacking the industry, like panty sellers feel that the least. UM,

444
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: But I don't think panty selling is like the most profitable,

445
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: profitable thing that you can do in the adult industry. Um.

446
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: The most profitable thing you can do in the adult

447
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: industry is be diverse. Of course, you want to have

448
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: niches and you know, particular things that your customers come

449
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: to you for because you need to stand out. But

450
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you should also be diverse. UM.

451
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: If you're only selling panties, but you don't offer any photos,

452
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: or you don't offer videos, you don't offer cam you

453
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: don't offer texting. UM, I'm not gonna say you won't

454
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: make any money, but I mean I've never done that before,

455
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: so I can't turn my experience on only offering that

456
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: one service. UM. One of the biggest cons and this

457
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: is outside of panty selling with like really any other

458
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: service you can offer, is that you know people don't

459
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: like sex workers. UM. The industry is always under fire. UM.

460
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all are familiar, but I'm about

461
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: to make you familiar of some of the current events

462
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: of things that have been happening in the industry, Um,

463
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: only Fans A couple of months ago, yea, that they

464
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: were going to change their policy and no longer allow Um.

465
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: I mean they were still going to allow news and stuff,

466
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: but they were pretty much not gonna allow like porn stars,

467
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: cam girls, anybody offering explicit content like playing with toys

468
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: or doing any type of masturbation. They weren't going to

469
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: allow that anymore. And you know, they said in Mastercard's

470
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: new policies as to they were going to change their

471
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: terms and procedures. And you know that. I mean MasterCard

472
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: and Visa run credit card processing, so I mean, it's

473
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: not even really about getting paid for ads. It's about

474
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: if MasterCard says that they won't process your payments, that

475
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: you can't take payments from people who want to pay

476
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: with a MasterCard. And you know that wouldn't be a

477
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: big deal if they were like ten other brands of

478
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: cards that people use. But people use MasterCard and people

479
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: use Visa. UM. I'm not sure why I haven't heard

480
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: like so much about Visa wanting to chance their policies,

481
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,239
Speaker 1: but it's pretty much primarily MasterCard and Only Fans is

482
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,479
Speaker 1: not not the only website being affected. Do you have

483
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: clip stores and phone sex um operators sites who are like,

484
00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: y'all can't have dudity in your profile photos anymore, or

485
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: we're not allowing staged for your content anymore. And you know,

486
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: those two changes I just listed haven't really personally affected

487
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,239
Speaker 1: me terribly. But somebody who only produces varyor content and

488
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: that's their full time income and that's all they do. Yeah,

489
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: that's a that's a problem that you're going to close

490
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: down their store with like a couple of days notice

491
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: and that's that's that's so, how doing sex workers move

492
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: forward with this situation? Because I know only Fan is

493
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: a really big platform their last sex sex workers use,

494
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: so I mean only Fans ultimately came back and said

495
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: that they were actually it's actually on I'm trying to

496
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: think of how they phrased it. I think they said

497
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: it was it was suspended the need changes, which means

498
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: you know, they could be deciding to make the original

499
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: changes they announced. In my opinion, that means they could

500
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: be deciding to make those changes going to affect that

501
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: any time, just not at this time. Um, how do

502
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: you say, you know, we don't know when they're gonna

503
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: make that, we don't know if they're going to or

504
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: when they're going to, but the specific barbiage that they

505
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: use means that they could right. Um, how do sex

506
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: where hearsts move forward? I mean, aside from hunting and gathering, uh,

507
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: sex work and prostitution, et cetera. UM is like one

508
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: of the oldest professions in the book. Of course people

509
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: had to collect or have something to barter in exchange.

510
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: But outside of that, Uh, sex worker is one of

511
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: the oldest professions in the book. Um, So how do

512
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: we move forward? Um? We stick together. We we UM

513
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: stick to the phrase solidarity and sex workers. We have

514
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: the attitude that the person who engages in street prostitution

515
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: is no worse or better than the person who doesn't.

516
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: We have the attitude that the person who sells panties

517
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: is no better or worse than the person who is

518
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: a stripper. Because the only way we really have any

519
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: type of power is through numbers and solidarity. UM. It's

520
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to be just one of us

521
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: that sticks up the master card and be like, hey,

522
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: this is bullshit. But if we all work together and

523
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: we all stick together in this ship, UM, I feel

524
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: like you know, we'll always we'll always find a way. Um.

525
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: Sex work has always been and it always will be.

526
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Do you feel like a lot of sex

527
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: working sticks together? Um? I mean I've gotten to see

528
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: two sides of that. I got introduced to the industry

529
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: through sex trafficking, so um, through the lenses of a

530
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: person who's being trafficked, I would definitely say no, not

531
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: at all. Uh. Sex workers define the lead don't stick together.

532
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: But me being trafficked was only you know, one year

533
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: out of ten of me being in the industry. Um,

534
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: as I've gotten more mature and really just been able

535
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: to be in a better position to network and meet

536
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: more people. UM. I can't say that all sex workers

537
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: stick together, but UM yeah, I think sex workers, for

538
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: the most part, they do stick together. And you know,

539
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: I had fog foggy lenses going through being sex trafficked

540
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: and being in the industry, but even through being trafficked,

541
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: meeting some of the sex workers who I didn't meet, Um,

542
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: those are like some of the best people that you'll

543
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: ever meet in your life. They could just have met

544
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: you and they'll give you like the last of their

545
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: possession to give you the shirt off their back. And

546
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: I don't say that as some like cliche ship, like

547
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: I really went through experiences to know that they would

548
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: look out for somebody who they didn't know like that.

549
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: And that's that's not everybody, not even just in the industry.

550
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: That's just not all people. A lot of people are

551
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: selfish and you know, they don't really care about the

552
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: next person is going through. I just feel like we

553
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: I feel like we gotta bring you back like a

554
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: SAP because I feel like you just have like so

555
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: like you've been through so much, like and I don't

556
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: want to like because I feel like when people will

557
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: see the title of this episode, they want to know

558
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: more about the topic because a lot of professional home

559
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: girls want the name um additional income. But I'm just

560
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: curious because I feel like the more and more I

561
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: talk to you and I hear you talk about certain

562
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: things like how do you keep your saying through everything

563
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: that you've been through. I did receive a small sample

564
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: thanks to Amazon or your book, and I read certain

565
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: things and some of the things that I read like,

566
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 1: oh my god, like but so odd because I didn't

567
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: like upload any specific sample that they and they're gonna

568
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: allow you to read this download downloadable format with the book. Yeah.

569
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: When I tell y'all, I was texting her all day

570
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: like can you please send me? I felt like I was,

571
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: I don't know when not working tech. So I don't

572
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: understand why I couldn't figure this out. Like I called,

573
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: not called by email the support team and they could

574
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: not send me the foul mhm. I had better luck.

575
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: I feel like selling my book independently, I don't remember.

576
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: I don't remember what I was using. I think a

577
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: junkie to deliver the books is pretty dope. So I

578
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: might get back on that, y'all. But I mean that's

579
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 1: so I don't know. Having so many things that you're

580
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: involved in this like a blessing and a curse. Because

581
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: I wrote these books about my experience being traffic probably

582
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: about eight years ago. UM, I put them on the market,

583
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: and uh, they were fairly success successful. I had a

584
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: nice amount of book signing speaking events. UM. I got

585
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: to meet some powerful some powerful people and some powerful celebrities.

586
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: But then it just became something I wasn't released so

587
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: so much interested anymore, and and I took the books

588
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: off the market. UM. I recently put the books back

589
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: on the market after getting them UM professionally edited and formatted,

590
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 1: and now it sounds like I'm gonna have to pay

591
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: to get the reformatted to sell them on e junkie

592
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: because I don't have time for Amazon's bullshit. And I

593
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: feel like after this episode, people gonna go like, Okay,

594
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: so when is this? When's the next episode coming out?

595
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: Because we wanted to get the book? But yeah, how

596
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: do you keep get? Sing? You ask the question? UM,

597
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: sorry about that. I feel like we jumping that a

598
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: little bit of places were we're gonna finish up ah

599
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: the painting episode, but I really want to, like, I

600
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: really wish I could have read that damn book man,

601
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: because I feel like we could have really got into

602
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: some things. But we're gonna come back to it. But

603
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 1: how do you do everything? It's good to you ask

604
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: because one of the I mentioned this earlier. One of

605
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: the top reasons people don't make it in this industry

606
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: and just an entrepreneurialship in general, is because they can't

607
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 1: handle the mental load it takes on you, and they

608
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: can't handle the initial failure you might experience when you

609
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: try to launch a new idea. UM, how do I

610
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: deal with this? Um? I try to stay financially on

611
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: top of things. I feel like Americans probably one of

612
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: their biggest stress stress points is is finances. Um. I've

613
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: tried to build myself up, UM into a way where

614
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna be into this in the

615
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: same trap of people who sign up for these sturdy

616
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: year mortgages, and it's quite possible that they won't be

617
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: able to even own their home before they passed because

618
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: they have to refinance it. UM. I already knew I

619
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: didn't want to do that. Like, that's something mentally, on

620
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: top of being trafficked and dealing with the stuff that

621
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: I have dealt with, Like I don't want to deal with,

622
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: um instability of having to move all the time, because

623
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: that's something I had to do when I was traffic.

624
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: It's also something I had to do after I was traffic. UM.

625
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: I try to keep on things financially. I try to

626
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: make good financial decisions. UM. I take time for myself. UM.

627
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: I'm not working a regular nine to five job with

628
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: uh set schedule. I've done that in the past, and

629
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,479
Speaker 1: I've had decent jobs, have worked on the military base,

630
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: I've worked all types of jobs, y'all. Um, I just

631
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: don't think that's what's best for me right now. So

632
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: I've set myself up in a way that I don't

633
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: have to do that. I put myself first. Um, I

634
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: don't feel like a lot of people really think that's possible.

635
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people for whatever reason,

636
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: And well, I mean I don't say for whatever reason,

637
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: because for the most part, I know the reason, like

638
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: this is just kind of how society has ingrained us.

639
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: But a lot of people feel like, you know, they

640
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: just have to participate in the rat race. And um,

641
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: I guess, depending on what hand you've been dealt to

642
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: some to some degree, you do. I mean, I pay

643
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: my utilities, I'm paying my mortgage. But your version of

644
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: the rat race and getting ahead doesn't have to be

645
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: as lengthy as everybody's else else is, and it doesn't

646
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: have to look the same, right. Um that's a big

647
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: part of keeping my sanity is within reason, I do

648
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: what I want to do, all right, Oh I believe period.

649
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: So okay, it don't get back to the paying a topic,

650
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: because I feel like people gonna be like yo, I

651
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: feel like we just all over the place, and I

652
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 1: really want to hit some key points because I really

653
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: want to support you and I really want people to

654
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: support you, and because I I do believe that you

655
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about when it comes to selling pains,

656
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: and I want people to support you if they are

657
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: interested in joining your classes. So what would you say,

658
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: are some things that guys look for when it comes

659
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: to underwear? Um, all guys, like I swear. Different people

660
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: have their different fetishes. But if we could break it

661
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 1: down into like different categories, Um, you have your guys

662
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: that are really after like smell. They really enjoyed the

663
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: smell of the panties, so they might not be so

664
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: concerned with like collecting cheat styles or nice fabrics or

665
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: good brands. Um, they're just looking for somebody who can

666
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: get them hooked on their sins. Whereas you have other guys. Um,

667
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: and I don't know. I'd just say this is most

668
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: guys are looking for scent, of course, but you do

669
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: have other guys who are really into stuff like uh fabrics.

670
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: I've seldomly have guys who want to order stuff unworn,

671
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 1: but it's happened maybe ten percent of the ten percent

672
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: of the time. So most guys, of course are after scent.

673
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: But after that, I just call those basic panting guys

674
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: who are after sent don't really care about nice fabrics

675
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: and stuff. But you also have a lot of guys

676
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: who are really more connoisseurs, and they really are looking.

677
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 1: They're looking for vintage underwear they want so they want Satin,

678
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: they only want Victoria's Secret where they only want this brand,

679
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: they only want Lane Brian. Um, you definitely have a

680
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: nice amount of people who are only looking for certain stuff.

681
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: You'll see it. Oftentimes you'll see it in their user name.

682
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: You've got satin panty lover three O two, dong lover

683
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: five five five, thong lover five five five. They might

684
00:42:55,360 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: buy other other underwear, but they probably really only want thongs. UM.

685
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: The way that you try to make sure that you

686
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: can get a nice amount of sales is to either

687
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: find your niche and if you're gonna do a niche, uh,

688
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: you know, really focus heavily on that, or make sure

689
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: you have you know, a pretty nice variety, at least

690
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: on the panties so you can cater to a good demographic. UM.

691
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: I don't recommend, you know, to get started that you

692
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: you know, go out. You don't need two hundred and

693
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: fifty pairs of panties to get started selling panties. Um

694
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: My class is definitely very useful in making recommendations for

695
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: things that you know, he should try to have when

696
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: you get started, things that are going to make sure

697
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 1: your business excels when you get started. How to get

698
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 1: the best deals on panties, where to find the best stuff,

699
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: how to make the best ads, um all this is

700
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: important if you want to hit the game running with

701
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: your best shoes on, you know, just to get started.

702
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: Of course, it's always going to be a learning experience,

703
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: but you can tell even people who don't take classes,

704
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: like you can tell the people who took the time

705
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: to figure out the website a bit, who took the

706
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: time to look at the other top sellers on the

707
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: website and kind of see what they're doing. Not copy there,

708
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: but you, yes, do do you marketing research on what

709
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 1: the top dogs are doing. You can tell the people

710
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: who took the time to do that and the people

711
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 1: who said, oh, panty selling is just gonna be easy,

712
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: but I'm ach you should do your research. It can

713
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: be very lucrative. It can be positive. I mean, panty

714
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: selling has been really positive in my life, y'all. I'm

715
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: not thirty. My house is almost paid off, I got

716
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: two cars, I travel a lot um in life pretty much,

717
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: I do what I want to do um. And you

718
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: know that's achievable if you're willing to do things like

719
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: do the marketing research. It's not rocket science, it's not

720
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: working at a factory. It doesn't have to be the

721
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: most physically labors work. But you want to just make

722
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: sure working as smart as possible. And if you're working

723
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: as smart as possible, then yeah, this could probably be

724
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: really really lucrative for you. So which scent do you

725
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: think makes the most money? I mean, of course, I

726
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: can only speak on my personal experience, so I've only

727
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: worked with my scent. But I mean I would say

728
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: these guys in general are just after a woman's sent

729
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't overthink it. And thankful am I going

730
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: to have the appealing scent that will get these guys hooked.

731
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: I mean, if you have a healthy functioning vagina, then

732
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: you'll probably have a scent. Seriously, if you take care

733
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: of yourself, if you have a healthy functioning vaginer, then

734
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: you'll probably have a scent that can get you repeat buyers.

735
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Can you sell other things on the site?

736
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 1: As and on to vote with the panties you can.

737
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: Like I said, most of these uh sites, um, probably

738
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: at least of the sites that are known for panty selling.

739
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: Now these are going to be all the sites that

740
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: take a subscription fee. That's pretty much something that I

741
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: don't want to say it's exclusive to panty selling, but

742
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: it pretty much it pretty much is to my knowledge, UM,

743
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: that's exclusive. That's exclusive to panning selling sites that they

744
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: charge you a monthly fee and let you keep all

745
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 1: your earnings, whereas most other sites phone sex, video for sale, camming,

746
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: they all just take a percent of your earnings. They

747
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: don't charge a monthly fee. Um. Their commission based um.

748
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: But most of these subscription based panty selling sites you

749
00:46:55,080 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: can sell other services on and that is where um,

750
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: you will probably if you're going to be successful, that

751
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: is probably where you'll have most of your success. Like

752
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: I said, people who are offering more services, And when

753
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: I say that, I don't mean people who are necessarily

754
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 1: signing up for phone sex site to be a phone

755
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: sex operator. But people who are offering phone sex on

756
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: the panty selling site are inclined to make more money.

757
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: People who are selling photos of them in the panties

758
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: are inclined to make more money. People who are selling

759
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: videos of themselves as well as use panties are inclined

760
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: to make more money. And you can sell other services

761
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: on almost all of the panting selling sites. Now, at

762
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: one point you spoke about a certain platform that we're

763
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: giving you issues. Do you think that anything to do

764
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: with being black or that you are a top seller

765
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: in industry or what do you think if she was?

766
00:47:54,960 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: I mean that's this industry period, Um gosh, I mean really,

767
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: that's just life. Um. There's colorism of course, and racism.

768
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: You know, if you're working at a T and T,

769
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: you're working at you know, do they even exist anymore?

770
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was a good example, but

771
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: you know you're probably dealing. I don't know those phones site,

772
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 1: those uh phone carriers are always merging and emerging and stuff.

773
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: I know, a T n T didn't even used to

774
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: be a T and T. They might have used to

775
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: be like Singular Wireless or something. Mum, but I try

776
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: to save my money. I don't patronize the big phone

777
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: carriers like A T and T and stuff. It's one

778
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: of the ways that I'm more free. Um, if you

779
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: want to get into this entrepreneurial lifestyle, and you know

780
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: your pockets are kind of tight. I definitely encourage you

781
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: to look at where you can cut costs. Right, Um,

782
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: you really don't get too many extra benefits out of

783
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: going with a T and T if you can go

784
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: through like total wireless, who is on their same networks.

785
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: Like that's how. I literally don't know if a T

786
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: and T is a phone carry right now. If I

787
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: just know they out of my budget, I could be

788
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: like making six figures and they still might be out

789
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: my budget. Girl right now, listen, I get it because

790
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: I'm an entrepreneur too. And you you're starting any business,

791
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: don't care what it is, You're gonna have to cook

792
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: cause at some point expect if you want to scale

793
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: your business like fluctuates. You know they say in your

794
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: first year of um starting any type of business, if

795
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: you are financially able, you should be investing all profits

796
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: first year back into your business, absolutely right. Spending extra

797
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: money on your phone bill is not really going to

798
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: make you money. That's not investing money back in your business,

799
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: and that's money that you could be investing back in

800
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: your business. Lot of sacrifices question. Definitely, definitely takes sacrifices

801
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: when you decide to be an entrepreneur, but there are

802
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: there can be a lot of pros as well. Oh absolutely,

803
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: the reward is always amazing. Right. Well, hey, go a head.

804
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: You were talking about the whole um about racism in

805
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: the industry. Yeah, um, so there's racism everywhere from AT

806
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: and T to the sex industry. Um, there really is, um.

807
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: And you know, you are an independent contractor, like I said,

808
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: working for a lot of these sites. And even if

809
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: you're not an independent contractor, you're still just like a

810
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: user who you know is I don't want to say

811
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: that you're under the control of somebody else like because

812
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: that's just sounds really shitty, but I mean you can

813
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: you kind of are under the control of somebody else.

814
00:50:55,440 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: Like if, right, if the people who are reviewing Facebook

815
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: posts are possibly racist, then you know you're at their mercy.

816
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: If your posts are getting flagged reported, whatever you're at,

817
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: whoever is reviewing it, you're at like with their political beliefs.

818
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: So they let that overlap into their work, which you

819
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: know they can say they don't, but subconsciously they probably

820
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 1: still do. You are at their mercy here at their mercy. Um.

821
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, I definitely feel like I've dealt with racism

822
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 1: in the industry. Um, but you know this life mm hmm,

823
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: it's um, I can't necessarily say I've ever been treated

824
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: badly enough anywhere that I've like totally left a platform, um,

825
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,439
Speaker 1: you know because I thought that they people who owned

826
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: it or worked there or whatever might have been racist.

827
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: But you can definitely, you know, I feel at times,

828
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: and you don't. You can't necessarily even always prove it mhm.

829
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: But you know, this is America. Uh, We're aware of

830
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: the things that you know, American history. We're fucking aware

831
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: of what the funk happened. You know. They say, we're

832
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 1: really probably not aware because slavery was probably a hundred

833
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: times worst we'll ever know, But you know, that's a

834
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: whole that's a whole another topic. But we're aware of

835
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: American history. So sometimes, you know, you can only wonder, like,

836
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: am I being treated like this because this person is racist? Was? Um?

837
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 1: Was I kicked off of this platform because this person

838
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: is racist? Are my pictures being deleted because this it's

839
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: my ship not being approved. I can see people of

840
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: my peers who are you know, clearly got less melanin

841
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: in their skin. They should approved. They should still y'all.

842
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 1: Um deleted my ship for say, I don't know, not

843
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: being within contest themes, like to say they do a

844
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: Halloween contest. I mean, I'm clearly in a contest like

845
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 1: other white people, Like they clearly just uh cut themselves

846
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: out of a photo, like completely erased the background and

847
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: like put themselves in a fucking pumpkin patch. Like is

848
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 1: that authentic? Right? No, it's not. The ship is bullshit? Um?

849
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: What what? What can what can you do? Right? I might?

850
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: I might deal with the same thing being a nurse.

851
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: I might deal with the same thing. Where can a

852
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: T and T A T T y'all? It's just a

853
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 1: good example for Corporate America. They're very big company. Um.

854
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: You know, you could work for a department in d

855
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: C and have a totally completely different experience then you

856
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: had working for a different director in Atlanta, right, Um? Yeah,

857
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,439
Speaker 1: I mean you can deal with that racism ship anywhere. Um.

858
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: I definitely don't think that the industry is excluded uh

859
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: from having racism infiltrated. Mhm. The last and not at least,

860
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: what is some advice you would give to our listeners?

861
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: Who want to get into the industry or they just

862
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 1: or even just still in their pennies, Like what would

863
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: you recommend or some tips or things not to do.

864
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 1: M biggest thing not to do I already mentioned is

865
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: of course, like the biggest thing is just to really

866
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: decide that if this is something that you're interested in doing. Cool,

867
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: if you decided that that's something that that this is

868
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: something you want to do. UM. Outside of that, I'd

869
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 1: recommend you do a bit of research. Um My class

870
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: is a great place to start if you want to

871
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: know about a lot of the most popular and even

872
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: some of the um less popular sites that you can

873
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 1: get on to still make a significant amount of money.

874
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: My panty seller for one, one class is a great

875
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: place to start. But even if you don't know if

876
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: you want to take a class, definitely do your research.

877
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: Look at what the different sites have to offer you. UM.

878
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: They all have different payout percentages if you go the

879
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: commission based site route. UM they all have different monthly

880
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: monthly fees and features they offered. If you decide to

881
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: go the monthly subscription route where they charge you a

882
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 1: flat fee and you get to keep all of your money.

883
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 1: UM they all have different things that they can offer you,

884
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: and I would encourage you to make an informed decision

885
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: about where you want to work. M hm Um. I'd

886
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 1: also recommend you look into things that you can um inexpensively.

887
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: I guess at first, if that's you know where you

888
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: need to start out, start out. All that is, look

889
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: for things you can buy to inexpensively invest in your business. Um.

890
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: These type of things matter, like having good lighting in

891
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: your pictures matters. Looking presentable in your photos matters. Uh.

892
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: You'll notice because you'll see all different types of people

893
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 1: on these websites. You'll see people who keep their nails

894
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: and their hair done and get all made up, which

895
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: you know is great. You'll see people who don't do that,

896
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: which is great. You know if you don't want to

897
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 1: do that. Um, but I feel like at a bare minimum,

898
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: you're definitely probably gonna make better sales if you are presentable. Um.

899
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: You'll see people who don't brush their hair before they

900
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: take photos, or you'll see people with a dirty, really

901
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: dirty background in their photos. And you know, people notice that.

902
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: I mean this goes for literally like any business, right,

903
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: not even just the sex industry. Right. Details matter. Uh,

904
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: that's solid advice like put shortly details matter, pay attention

905
00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: to detail. UM. That goes into doing things like tracking

906
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: your sales. You'll want to make sure you keep track

907
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: of your finances. Keep up with what's selling good for you. Um.

908
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 1: If you get started in the industry and you're selling,

909
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: say you decide to go all out and you decide

910
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna sell photos, panties and videos, keep up with

911
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: what's selling best for you. Right. If you get into

912
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: the industry and you know, you see that you can

913
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: make more money doing custom videos, and you like to

914
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: do custom videos, then there's nothing wrong with saying, you know,

915
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna put in a plethora of effort into

916
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:41,919
Speaker 1: selling panties anymore. This is entrepreneurship one on one right, right,

917
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: No dead as because this is so true because you

918
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: have so you can have so many good ideas, but

919
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: the numbers don't live, and that's what you need to

920
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: focus on. Definitely, definitely need to take into account the numbers,

921
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: now I'm all about I mean, one of the reasons

922
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,439
Speaker 1: we get into entrepreneurship is so we can hopefully try

923
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: to do what we want to do. If you can

924
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: make a livable income just selling panties. If you look

925
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: at the numbers, you're making more number money doing customs,

926
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: and you decide that financially you can just sell panties

927
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: and that's all you want to do. That's great. That's

928
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: one of the reasons I recommend people get into entrepreneurship

929
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: so they can try to do the things that they love,

930
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: but definitely keep track of those numbers so you can

931
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: make an informed decision. M Um. Sam goes with researching.

932
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: It just all comes down to being informed. Knowing what's

933
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: going on, Knowing the happenings that helps you make the

934
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: best decisions is going to help you be successful in

935
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: your business. And what a question before we leave, what's

936
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: next for you? UM? What's next for me? It's really

937
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: what I've been up to lately. UM. I got started

938
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: with this podcast telling y'all that UM not focused so

939
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: much on selling panties. UM. I mean, I'm still selling

940
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: them though, but lately lately, I've been doing a lot

941
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: of traveling. UM. I've been working on video production, been

942
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: selling a lot of custom videos. I've been networking with people.

943
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm working with more women in the industry, so I

944
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: have a lot more videos of me with other partners.

945
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: Uh So that's my primary primary focus right now is

946
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: clip production and really just attracting those super generous fans

947
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: to me. Um. One thing that has really kept me

948
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,439
Speaker 1: in this industry, and I guess we can end with this,

949
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: one thing that has really kept me in this industry

950
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: is my regulars. Um. You know, I might not be

951
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: the most popular person on social media. I might not

952
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: have the most Twitter followers, but what I do have

953
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: is you know, fans, you sent me a thousand, two

954
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: thousand dollars at the time. Okay, let's get into it now.

955
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: And you know that makes up for some some free gawking,

956
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: some free gawking Twitter followers. Don't get me wrong, Like

957
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,919
Speaker 1: I'd love to be an influencer one day. So I mean,

958
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: I know the power behind having social media, but I

959
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: think you are and you are right because I have

960
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: to feel like when a research you were the only

961
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: black woman I was popping up quite possibly, and she

962
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: was also being a little modest job because she made

963
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: a lot of money doing this and granted it was

964
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: on it off, but doing this, I mean I made

965
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: probably more than I make money doing this. This is paid, Gosh,

966
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: this is paid. This is literally paid for a lot

967
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: of stuff for me. All this is paid for paid

968
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: for my first car. Um. I've been through like multiple

969
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: cars since then. UM, so it's always paid for my house.

970
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: I've never been homeless. Um. And you know that's not

971
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: to talk down on anybody who has been, because I've

972
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: been through some really tough ships. But this, but this

973
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: industry is something that supported me. These things to not

974
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: have to be houseless, to not go without food like

975
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: this is ship. A lot of people who work in

976
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: a regular job don't have. Mhm. Um, there's so many

977
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: of my peers who've been homeless. UM. I mean your

978
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: story alone, Yeah, are we gonna I'm gonna know what

979
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: this this call. I'm gonna her the link and make

980
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: her make sure she schedule the next supportment because it

981
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: took me almost like year to get her on the show, y'all.

982
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: But her story is powerful. Like I really do feel

983
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: like I wish I would have had the opportunity to

984
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: read the book because I feel like the conversation we

985
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: had kind of shifted out of panty selling and I

986
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: felt like we could have went more into your story.

987
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: But I just want to be fully prepared so people

988
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: support you more. And get to know you more than

989
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: just being a sex worker. I will be looking forward

990
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: to coming back to the show heard I think, I hope,

991
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: I hope people got you know enough in what they

992
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: came for today. Though, if you want more information on

993
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 1: the adult entertainment class um getting into the industry in general,

994
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: do not let the name of my class fool you.

995
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,439
Speaker 1: You can find more information about getting involved in all

996
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: things so adult entertainment at penny seller for one one

997
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: dot com. All right, and if you have any questions, comments,

998
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: but concerns, please make sure to email me a hello

999
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: at the PFG podcast dot com. And until next time,

1000
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: everyone later bye, Thanks for having me, of course,