1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,199 Speaker 1: Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel, I'm not Today 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: we're talking tariff turmoil, winning so much and border hopping 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: for bargains. You know, buddy, this is our Friday flight. 4 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: We hope everyone has had a wonderful week so. 5 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 2: Far, and we are in fact going to get to 6 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: the top headlines the personal finance news that you can use. 7 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: Charlie Sheen is the patron saint of this episode. Winning 8 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: when that is thing, winning. 9 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: So hard, when they're like Tiger Tiger's milker. 10 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: He did a lot of crazy stuff in his day, 11 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: as detailed in his memoir that you can read. Okay, 12 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: real quick, Matt and I will not belabor the point, 13 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: but the We've got a lot of emails about and 14 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: comments in the Facebook group about my unwillingness or distaste 15 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: for paying Apple for storage space right for photos essentially. 16 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: And somebody wrote into to us and one of their 17 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: suggestions was like, wait a second, you have Amazon Prime. 18 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: Amazon Prime has free photo storage. 19 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: Dude, And I was like, oh, oh, who knew that? Yeah, 20 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 2: that's right. I totally I totally forgot. That was totally 21 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 2: off my radar. You know, you know why we don't 22 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: know that is because the Amazon Prime ecosystem is so 23 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 2: complicated and there are so many different options that's not streamlined, 24 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: it's not intuitive, and so it doesn't surprise me. There's 25 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: probably a whole host of features, features that we have 26 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 2: available to us that we're not taking advantage of it 27 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 2: because I haven't clicked onto that secondary nay Tertiary's sub menu, 28 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 2: dropped down hine option that's available. It is. 29 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: It's one of those things I work because I think 30 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: you said you spend ten bucks a month on storage 31 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: right with with with Apple, And I was like, oh, man, 32 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: ten bucks, that's one hundred twenty bucks a year. That's 33 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: like not too far off the price of literally just Prime. 34 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: And I talked about maybe just maybe ditching Prime. 35 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: Do I want to? 36 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: Will I with this added perk and taking advantage of 37 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: it, It seems like that makes Prime feel like it's even 38 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: more Do you know worth the expense? 39 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: Right? Do you know the details of the photostors as 40 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: the quantity onlimited photos? Okay, only up to ten gigs 41 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: worth of video, so photos just got go to my 42 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: heart's content videos though there's a limit. Yeah, do you 43 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: know how many videos you have? Do you take it 44 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: a whole lot of bit I uploaded all my stuff 45 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: to eat it. Oh yeah, oh yeah, I took advantage 46 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: and it had a little gauge to tell you how 47 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: much space you had left. 48 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: At one point it was like, say, you can't upload 49 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: any more videos, so definitely have more than ten gigs 50 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: or the videos. So I I don't know what I'm 51 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: gonna do about that. Maybe I going and delete something 52 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: that I don't care about, go to the video. Yeah, 53 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: but at least at least all the photos you upload 54 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: those videos. 55 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: To snapfish or whatever it was that you were looking at. 56 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 2: Maybe that's a good point. 57 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, So maybe I can like patch work this together 58 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: and uh and save money. And Aaron, by the way, 59 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: email about that, And got another email from listener Shannon 60 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: who is trying something called pea Cloud. And I just 61 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: want to mention this because I love this sort of model. 62 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: It's you pay once and you get it for life. 63 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: You pay more, a lot more, because it's like four 64 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: hundred dollars for two hundred gigs for life or something 65 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: like that. The only potential downside is what if pea 66 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: cloud fails? Right, And this is the case for a 67 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: lot of service for life companies. You're like, oh great, 68 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: I never have to pay for this again, right, and 69 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: I love that idea. But if the company fails, you're 70 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: got a lot of money. Sorry, out of luck, but 71 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: at least I've got a decent solution for now. 72 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: Well then on top of that, too, less likely that 73 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: you have to run out and pick something up because 74 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: you can order something on Prime and have it show 75 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: up later in the afternoon. Press dude, let's talk about 76 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court ruling. This is one that came out 77 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: actually last Friday, after we had published our Friday Flight. 78 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: But in a six' to three, ruling The Supreme court 79 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: said that the president's tariff policy is. Unconstitutional and why 80 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: they said that was the, case it's pretty. Crucial so 81 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: the president can't use the i e. E. P a 82 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: to justify. Tariffs, essentially the dealing out and the reeling 83 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: in of terrorists from a single individual exceeds the power 84 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: of the executive. Office so you might be, thinking, all, right, 85 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: well who? Terrorists they are no more all thanks to 86 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: The Supreme. Court right quite. Yeah he immediately was, like, uh, 87 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: Nope we're gonna do terroists this way. Now so he's 88 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: sticking to his guns and by. 89 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: The way you CUT I E E P a iepah 90 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: is what people call IT, aipa The International Emergency Economic Powers. 91 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 2: Act yeah, yeah in case you're like a nerd and 92 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: you want to, KNOW i want to dive into the. 93 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 2: Policy but he's essentially justifying the tariffs now by other 94 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: potentially legal or potentially illegal. Means but, like it makes 95 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: me think Of President biden's attempts to bring about student 96 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: loan forgiveness, right very, similar where he's just, Like i'm 97 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 2: pretty sure this is, unconstitutional but we're gonna we're gonna 98 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: go for it, anyway figure it out. Later And President 99 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: trump he's trying to do the same with terras via 100 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 2: other legal, maneuvers so terras will likely be forced to 101 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: be less. Capricious, Right, Like as to why it is 102 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: that whimsicle makes it sound, Fun, yeah like creative and 103 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 2: fantastical as opposed to emotional knee jerk, reaction which is, 104 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: like it seems like it's based more on whether or 105 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: not you received a gold bar from a country as 106 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: to your. Teriff for it seems more likely that you 107 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 2: are going to receive less terrorists placed in your country 108 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: where you to award The Nobel Peace, prize for, instance 109 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: these are this is the kind. 110 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: Of reasons given for implementing. 111 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 2: Terrorists don't love that kind of, policy. MAN i will 112 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: say the current terrafts that have been stated they have 113 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: an expiration. DAY i think it's one hundred and fifty, 114 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: days and so in order for those to. Continue it 115 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 2: is interesting Because congress is actually going to be forced 116 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: to act to actually make this a part of, legislation 117 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: as opposed to them being able to sit back and 118 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: have the tar ers essentially go. On and definitely it's 119 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: sort of the shoes on the other. 120 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: FOOT i know you missed talking about, tariffs SO i 121 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: know you're thrilled to be able to talk about it. 122 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: Today, again it's a little frustrating because do people truly 123 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 2: feel the impact of tariffs is tough to, know, right 124 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 2: given more prices and all the factors that go into 125 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 2: higher PRICE i think when you're. 126 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: Talking about most of the people listening and what they 127 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: pay at the, store it's been less felt than some 128 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: economists had. Predicted but when you hear the stories of 129 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: individual small business owners who are confronted with spectacular tariffs 130 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: that they hadn't planned, for that's where you, see oh my, 131 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: gosh this is a real problem for a not insignificant 132 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: number of. People and it's easier for the costcos of 133 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: this world to endure tariffs than it is for those 134 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: small business. Owners and by the, way the headline of 135 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: the most Recent Reason roundtable podcast Was trump replaces old 136 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: illegal tariffs with new illegal, tariffs AND i JUST i 137 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: love that BECAUSE i think it gets to the heart 138 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: of the. Matter but, yeah that's pretty dating accurate ambiguity 139 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: ambiguity of tariff. Policy it just it's a it's a 140 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: source of anxiety and frustration for businesses right when they're 141 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: attempting to, plan and so that is at the HEART 142 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: i think of the problem of these. TARIFFS i think 143 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: if we had some sort of like congressional implementation of 144 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: tariffs that that was clear, cut understood and long, lasting 145 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: then people would be a little bit less frustrated by. 146 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: It but you're, right it's the capricious, nature the ever 147 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: changing reality of tariff policy that really frustrated a lot 148 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: of small business, owners that made it hard to plan 149 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: and in fact put some small businesses either out of 150 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: business or behind the eight ball when it came to 151 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: moving their business, forward made it almost impossible to plan, 152 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: for which is a frustrating. 153 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: Thing, well speaking of behind a, ball it seems like 154 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: it's the magic eight ball That trump is using to 155 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: decide whether or not. 156 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,679 Speaker 1: Sure it's all signs, yes, yeah, yeah. Okay so what's 157 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: going to happen? Now when a bunch of businesses of 158 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: filed lawsuits about getting refunds for tariff it's probably not 159 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: going to proceed, Smoothly and The Supreme court kind of, 160 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: said we're not really weigh in on. That we'll let 161 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: the lower courts handle that. Stuff so we'll see how 162 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: the refund process plays. Out my guess, Is matt will 163 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: we'll keep talking about tariffs sadly for months to, come 164 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: hopefully just not on the. 165 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: Rig so going back to kind of what we're saying, 166 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: before it makes sense that we should be talking about 167 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: terrorists because of the fact that that they impact the, 168 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: Economy but at the same, time the way that they 169 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: are being implemented makes me like it's just giving more 170 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: attention to the spectacle of our current day, politics which 171 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: is the part of it THAT i hate so. Much 172 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: it makes me think of The state of The union, 173 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: address which were you excited to tune in to that 174 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 2: BECAUSE i caught the highlights or low. Lights, however you 175 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: THINK i didn't even do. THAT i, mean, WELL i 176 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: guess listening to news wrap ups and stuff like, that 177 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: folks were highlighting the different aspects of. 178 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: It BUT i had to hear's some of the economic 179 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: proposals and thoughts just BECAUSE i feel, like which we've 180 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: got to cover. 181 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: That, yeah we definitely need to mention. That BUT i 182 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: would rather us do away with The state of The 183 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 2: union because it is just the performative politics nature of 184 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: what our politics. 185 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: Is. 186 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: Man this is like totally the politics segment portion of 187 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: the podcast, today of the. Show but it makes me 188 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: think about like even The senate hearings that we, have 189 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: where it's just a lot of people yelling and pointing 190 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: fingers and it's like an episode of Like Real housewives 191 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 2: or something in the cats there pointing out the lady as. 192 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: Well that's what it feels. Like that part of IT 193 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: i hate so. Much even though there were some interesting 194 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: things that That trump mentioned during The state of The, union. 195 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: Well he said we're winning so much like his the 196 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: way he touts what's happening in the economy is through a, 197 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: filter and the filter is and, GOSH i again trying 198 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: not to get too political. Here WHEN i took office In, 199 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: january everything turned around And America's america is great. 200 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: Again that's what executives do at The state of The, 201 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: union right every every stinking. Year that's WHY i hate 202 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 2: it so, much because it's just them touting their own 203 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 2: their own quote unquote. Wins you talked about, how like How, 204 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 2: Biden President biden attempted to treat student low and forgiveness 205 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 2: is very similar to How President trump is has treated 206 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: and attempted to implement. TARIFFS i think that's, true AND 207 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: i think the same is true for both of these 208 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: presidents in terms of how they're trying to spin what's 209 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: happening in the. Economy both are, LIKE i don't what 210 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: are you talking? About everything's? 211 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: Great, Yeah and the when you actually step back and 212 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: look from a macro, perspective there are a lot of 213 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: things to be excited about in terms of our. Economy, 214 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: LIKE i don't think things are as bad as some 215 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: of the political pundits want to make it, sound, agreed 216 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: and it's. 217 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: Also not as good as others are also trying to 218 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 2: make it. 219 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: So and also when people feel like things aren't, great 220 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: you don't come in and Like jedi my trick and 221 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: say what are you talking? 222 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: About? 223 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: Man things are, awesome and you're, like, oh, yeah you're. Right, 224 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: no that's just not how it, works and people want 225 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: to be understood in their. Frustration Is america as hot 226 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: As cancel In? ZOOLANDER i don't think. So, LIKE i 227 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: just don't think that's. True but, again when you look 228 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: at the progress post, pandemic progress in Particular matt of 229 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: our country when it came to like Taming, inflacio when 230 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: it comes to economic, growth and things are better In 231 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: america than in almost any other part of the, club that's. 232 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 2: True, Okay so one thing that's worth highlighting That trump 233 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: did mention is the matching retirement funds for individuals who 234 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: don't have a four to ONE k at their. Work 235 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 2: so starting next, year this is what's proposed that you 236 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 2: are going to get a one thousand dollars match if 237 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: you contribute two thousand. Dollars there's not a whole lot 238 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 2: of details given because obviously this is very, performative but 239 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: evidently the account's going to be similar to THE, tsp 240 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: The Thrift Savings, plan which federal employees are quite familiar 241 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: with and this is going to be particularly helpful for 242 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: the folks out there who are self, employed for folks 243 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 2: who are working at jobs that don't offer retirement, accounts 244 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 2: WHICH i, MAN i totally love this and WHETHER i 245 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 2: don't want to get overly excited about it, though because 246 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: this is a proposal from the presidents and it seems 247 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: like going back to The Supreme. Court one of the 248 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 2: reasons that they cited for That trump wasn't able to 249 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: do this was because in The, Constitution article one talks 250 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: about how it's in Fact congress's job to be able 251 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: to levy TAXES i will say the control of the. 252 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: Purse it sounds like the methodology that he can use 253 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: to implement this is from The Secure act right that 254 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: was Implemented securect two point. Zero and if that's the, 255 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: case then this really could come about with very little 256 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: legal issue can. 257 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 2: Argue but how durable is It at the same, time 258 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 2: that's a good question as opposed to being implemented in 259 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: a more congressional legislative sort of. 260 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: Approach if it comes to, PASS i think it's a 261 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: really exciting, development especially for like small business owners out. 262 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: There like you talked about how when you ran your photography. 263 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: Business you never had access to a match like. You 264 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: it was all on your, back and so that's that's. Cool, 265 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: OH i love the idea of. 266 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: It, yeah, ABSOLUTELY i just hope it comes about the right. Way, 267 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: YEAH i don't want to downplay how huge this could 268 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: be for. INDIVIDUALS a fifty percent match on two thousand 269 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: dollars of retirement investing in retirement. Savings that's, massive, Man 270 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: like that could be so huge for so Many. Americans for, 271 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 2: That i'm really, excited and this is certainly something we'll 272 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 2: keep an eye. 273 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: On the only downside is how does our how do 274 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: we come up with the funds as a country to 275 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: pay for. That i'll figure that out, later just adding 276 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: it on to the national. DEBT i guess last thing 277 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: that we should address From state of The union Is 278 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: President trump also mentioned briefly the topic of Limiting congress's 279 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: ability to trade individual. Stocks that's sure also something we 280 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: can get. Behind we've been talking abouts for a long. 281 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: Time it's how big of a difference is that going 282 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: to make for the Average? American not, much but it 283 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: WILL i think at least create a sense that we 284 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: that our congress people are not using information they get 285 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: that we don't have access to to make money while 286 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: they're in. Office totally, Agreeing all, right let's talk about housing. 287 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: Map homeowners are most frustrated by maintenance, cost apparently in 288 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: surprise repairs that they have to they have to pay 289 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: for these. DAYS a new report From hippo finds that 290 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: one of the biggest financial concerns of home ownership along 291 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: with rising home insurance costs right and property. Taxes those 292 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: are two line items that Have you've probably seen your 293 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: mortgage payment go up in the past few years because 294 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: of those two. Things, well it's the increased cost of 295 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: taking care of your. Home that's another big thing that 296 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: people are feeling overwhelmed. By and this REVEALS i think 297 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: a few. Things, one home ownership not. Cheap along with you, 298 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: know higher monthly payments higher than what you're paying to, 299 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: rent you're also signing up for bigger one time. Expenses 300 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: it's crucial obviously to budget for potential issues that could 301 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: arise as a. Homeowner the average rule OF Thumbi we've 302 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: outlined this in the past is to have something like 303 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: one to two percent of your home, value your home's 304 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: value set aside every single year for things you have 305 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: to do to repair your. 306 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: House. 307 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: MATT i think, like let's say your home is worth 308 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand dollars right then you're talking about having 309 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: between eight and sixteen thousand dollars set up side for 310 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: things you need to do to your. Home do you 311 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: think that's excessive or do you think that that. 312 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: Probably pretty thing? 313 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: Accurate But i'm guessing that's not what most folks are, doing. 314 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: Agreed and it just really depends too on the status 315 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: of your home because one to two percent that's like 316 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: a big. Gap take a look in particular at the 317 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: at the main systems of your, home your your roof 318 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: and YOUR. Hvac those are two big, things like how 319 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: how long has it been since those have been? Replaced 320 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: if if it hasn't been, long then you could probably 321 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: stick to closer to one percent of your home's. Value 322 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: but if you're, like oh, god it was getting pretty 323 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: up there in age pass roof can be that can 324 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: take your whole budget for that one year in terms 325 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: of in terms of your. Home but it's crucial to 326 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: set money aside for those expenses and to factor that 327 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: into on the front end when you're thinking about buying 328 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: a home or or you can start figuring some of 329 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: that out. 330 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: Yourself, yes we talked about, this, okay so we talked 331 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: about the coffee bar On. Monday. Right here's a new 332 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 2: wrinkle which AND i are already shared this with you 333 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: a little, bit so this is more for the listeners out. 334 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: There but evidently there is a upstairs bathroom drain line 335 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: goes through one of the walls of the coffee, bar and, 336 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 2: EVIDENTLY i think for at least four or five, years 337 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: it's been leaking some down in the, basement not like, 338 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: terribly but you can see where it's gotten wet and, 339 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: dried and it's crusty and. Gross and what a great 340 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: time to go ahead and bust open that wall and 341 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: make sure that the leak isn't originating within the wall 342 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: as opposed to right as the pipe passes through the cross. 343 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: Space and with the knowledge and Experience i've gained over 344 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: the past nine months when it comes to, PLUMBING i 345 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: had very little to worry. About, WELL i don't know 346 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: that sounds. RECKLESS i felt empowered to be able to 347 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 2: take that project on, myself and so SOMETHING i was 348 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: able to knock out last. Weekend it's also cut into 349 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: a three inch, waistline got some fresh WHITE, pbc ran 350 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: that through the, floor got it all plumbed, up good to. 351 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: Go dot was back to shower before she even knew. 352 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: It she didn't miss. 353 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: It this isarly like when you think about the major 354 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: costs of these home, produces it's labor, Right, LIKE i 355 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: don't Even, yeah it wasn't as much the case a decade. 356 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: AGO i think it was closer to fifty to, fifty 357 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: but NOW i think it's siler's hourly. 358 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 2: Rate it's. 359 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: Insane it's like it's at least sixty five to thirty 360 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: five in terms of labor versus the. Materials and so 361 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: the more you can take on or do, yourself especially 362 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: those smaller projects that can help lead to bigger projects 363 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: that will at least reduce how much you need to 364 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: have saved if you feel like you can tackle those 365 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: projects on your. 366 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 2: Own it makes me think of an attorney friend of, 367 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 2: ours and he owns some properties as, well and he 368 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: always hates painting plumbers because he's just, like their hourly 369 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 2: rate is more than WHAT i get. Paid he's, Like 370 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 2: i'm gonna start being a. Plumber but with these high 371 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: prices of, homes this is why more Young americans are 372 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: finding themselves being content to. Rent and it's not that 373 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: folks don't think that they're that they're ever going to 374 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 2: be able to buy a, home ALTHOUGH i think that 375 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 2: might be part of, It but it's also because they've 376 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 2: been investing more and with that they have seen their 377 00:17:55,840 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 2: wealth increase, significantly and as monthly remains a good bit 378 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 2: cheaper than, buying folks are starting to even just question 379 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 2: the entire premise of purchasing a home right like it 380 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 2: used to be the sort of default sort of thing of, like, oh, 381 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 2: yep you're throwing money away if you're, renting you need 382 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: to buy a, Home but it all comes down to 383 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: what you are doing with those funds. Instead and as 384 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 2: more folks are sticking money into the, market and they're 385 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: seeing that those dollars increase faster than, housing and that's 386 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 2: what YOU i, Mean this isn't just a recent. Phenomena 387 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: you look back over the data from the past hundred, 388 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: Years the average amount of home equity increases that folks 389 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 2: have seen have not kept up with what the market 390 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 2: has done over the long. Haul so that's the biggest trick, 391 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 2: THOUGH i, think is whether or not folks will actually 392 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: do that with that. Money but the people who, are 393 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,719 Speaker 2: but the folks who are are seeing their wealth increase. 394 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: Significantly and it also doesn't surprise. Me we were just 395 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 2: talking about the potentially new retirement government, sponsored government backed 396 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,719 Speaker 2: match with A tsp like retirement. Plan but the majority 397 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: Of americans who are working full time have access to 398 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 2: a four to ONE, k and so it doesn't surprise 399 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: me that we're seeing more folks enter into the. Workforce 400 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: and all of the new four ONE k plans have 401 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: to auto enroll their, employees and so you've got this 402 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 2: entire generation of folks who are getting they got that stealth. 403 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 2: Wealth they don't even realize it until they sit down 404 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 2: at the end of the year and they're, LIKE, whoa 405 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 2: where did that come? From, yeah that's. Awesome and they 406 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 2: feel less of that pressure where to purchase a, home 407 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 2: whereas previous generations maybe they had fatter deposits every two 408 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: weeks in their account that you, know they're bringing their 409 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 2: take thems a little bit more because they're not sitting 410 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 2: money aside in A fourmu AND k and therefore they're 411 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 2: using more of those funds to purchase a. Home Right 412 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: and like we've talked about trade. Off so much to 413 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: happen depends on what's happening in the. Market because if 414 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 2: you're talking about twenty eleven twenty, twelve and someone's sending 415 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 2: in an ASK htm and they're, like SHOULD i buy a, house, 416 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: like we would, say, wow rates are pretty dang. Low 417 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: prices are incredibly. Low think about you're probably going to 418 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 2: be paying less on your mortgage in which you and. 419 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: Rent buying a house has there's a lot of perks 420 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 2: to buying a house right twenty. Eleven in twenty twenty, 421 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 2: six the script is flipped and it's so much from, 422 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 2: yes for sure to rent than it is to. Buy 423 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 2: and you're, like, oh IF i could rent or, yeah 424 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: rent the place for two grand THAT i would pay a, 425 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 2: MORTGAGE i would be paying like four. Grand that's two 426 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 2: thousand extra dollars a. Month and by the, WAY i 427 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,959 Speaker 2: don't think it's a ridiculous. Assertion given where home prices 428 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 2: and interest rates are right, now you can probably rent 429 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 2: something for significantly. Less that's very. 430 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,719 Speaker 1: Similar and if How i'm investing that, difference you can 431 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: get ahead really quickly and guess what you can be 432 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: investing for the possibility of future home ownership instead of 433 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 1: kind of trying to like force force a square peg 434 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: into a round. 435 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 2: Hole right, now there you. Go, yeah you're actually building 436 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 2: up a down. Payment, yeah that you can deploy once 437 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: you have have enough funds on. 438 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: HAND i do feel LIKE i should talk out of 439 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: both sides of my, Mouth, matt because on the flip. 440 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: Side that's one of your. Specialties it is it. Is, 441 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 2: YEAH i like the. Dedication it's what we. Do there's 442 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: a lot of nuance when it comes to personal. Finance 443 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: so hous. 444 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: More is starting to slow. Down it's not like a 445 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, four right or twenty twenty three. Anymore, yeah 446 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: well rates have come down a little bit. Racer so 447 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: that's up finally sub six percent on average and. 448 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 2: Five point nine eight and yeah was this week's. 449 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: Average AND i went back to the local our local 450 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: credit union's website to look at their fifteen to fifteen. 451 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: Arm the rate on that is. Down it's IT'S i 452 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: think directly at five percent right. NOW i wouldn't be 453 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: surprised if it's in the four something range in the near. 454 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: Future that's pretty that's pretty. Great so people who are 455 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: like and we're seeing write more price reductions because there's 456 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: just the market in general is. Softer so, yeah maybe 457 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: if you're patient and you're smart and you've saved, up 458 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: you can get a better deal than you've been able 459 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: to get in recent. Years this spring selling, SEASON i don't. 460 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 2: Know that's. UH i thought it was gonna happen last. 461 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 2: SPRING i remember selling the folks that'd be, LIKE i 462 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: really think we're gonna see rates tick down and things eat, 463 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 2: Up but it didn't. Happen, YEAH i think when you're, 464 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: Starting i'm done making. 465 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: Predictions starting to c rates in the low fives and high, 466 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: fours that's a signal that's going to soften the market 467 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: a little, bit and it's going to MAKE i think 468 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: selling and buying something else more attractive to a certain 469 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: segment of, people and just buying in, general first time 470 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: home buyers maybe a little less frustrating or. 471 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: Onerous that's, right, Man but we've got more to get. 472 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 2: To we're gonna talk about eating steak and other foods 473 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 2: that and more weighs of. Save right after this. 474 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: Power back from the, break it's time the ludicrous headline 475 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: of the. Week this one comes From Business insider and 476 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: it reads Death isn't The? End meta patented IN ai 477 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: that lets you keep posting from beyond the, grave, Right, yeah. 478 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 2: Just what everyone wanted was the ability for people on 479 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 2: that they're friends with On facebook to be able to. 480 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: Troll THOUGH i, know right from the grave forever from 481 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: the great, beyond. 482 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: Because it's so messed. 483 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: UP i can't, WELL i don't know who's gonna die, 484 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: First mir or. You But i'm trying to decide what 485 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: it would be like to read fake postings FROM, Ai, 486 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: matt like when you're? 487 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 2: Dead, yeah WOULD i be, Like, OH i don't think 488 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 2: there'd be much? There like this is, FREAKY i think 489 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: BECAUSE i try not to post on. There, yeah because it's. 490 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: DUE i, mean this is straight up an episode Of Black. Mirror, Yeah, 491 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: like and that's what attracted me To Black mirror was 492 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 2: sort of the, weird like twisted dystopian sort of part of. 493 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 2: It but the really sad thing is that that is 494 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 2: becoming a, reality which only just kind of makes me 495 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: kind of sad about our current state and that are 496 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 2: so normal. Now, honestly it is LIKE i was pretty 497 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 2: attracted to it early, on but now that we're kind 498 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 2: of living, it, yeah, yeah not super thrilled with. It 499 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: and just because there is A you know that they 500 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 2: filed for a patent doesn't mean that that is actually 501 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 2: going to be a feature that they roll. 502 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 1: OUTS i wouldn't be, surprised but maybe well here's WHY 503 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: i wouldn't be, surprised but they might. One in the patent, 504 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: filing it, says AND i, quote the language model may 505 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: be used for simulating the user when the user is 506 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: absent from the social networking, system for, example when the 507 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: user takes say long, break or if the user is. 508 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: Deceased and not only does it say that in the patent, 509 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: filing but we're kind of already seeing this play. Out 510 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: So Scott, adams who did The dilbert comic, strip and 511 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: he was also like a political personality in many ways, 512 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: too that he passed away a couple of months ago 513 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: and end AND ai is being used to create create 514 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: post mortem videos of. Him so like his podcast, continues 515 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: his video podcast. Apparently see that's so. Weird it's so 516 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: it's so. Weird, yeah so. Dystopian and how the money could, 517 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: Continue well that's without. 518 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 2: Us how it's difficult for me to not think through 519 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 2: how does this what are the ramifications for? Us? Right 520 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 2: because we have this wonderful company that has worked well with. 521 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 2: Us iHeart iHeart. Media but here's the, Thing, joel they 522 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 2: technically own how To, money and even though it's been 523 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: a great, partnership let's just imagine the future where we 524 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 2: don't want to do the. Show that's less. Likely what's 525 00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: more likely probably. 526 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: Is a future save, money like where we can't agree 527 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: to the terms and they, say. 528 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: Well that's. Okay we've got over a thousand episodes that 529 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,239 Speaker 2: we technically own of our voice and us sharing our 530 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: jokes and telling our. STORIES i think we can kind 531 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 2: of keep that. Rolling that's a bleak that we're living 532 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 2: our own living nightmare Of Black mirror podcast editions if 533 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: that were to. Happen but we also know then that 534 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 2: they wouldn't be able to run the guaranteed human part 535 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: at the very beginning of the episode because at the 536 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 2: point it wouldn't take that claim. Off, yeah, yeah we 537 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 2: can do that. 538 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: Anywhere, well it's a little little, freaky little, Frightening AND i, 539 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: MEAN i think we're just living in a time where 540 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: just deep fakes are getting so much. BETTER ai scams 541 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: are becoming even more, prevalent and they're becoming more convincing 542 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: and so it's just don't believe everything you see, it 543 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: do a fact, check like look, again because we're living 544 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: in an era where even people can post stuff from 545 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: beyond the grave and you're, like, OH i thought the 546 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,479 Speaker 1: person was. DEAD i Guess i'll keep following. Them but 547 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: it's it's just a it's a weird, world and protecting 548 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: yourself becomes even more. Important, yeah, okay let me see 549 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: IF i can pull this. 550 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: Off as money piles INTO, ai the system's powering these deep. 551 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 2: Fakes some of the folks working in the field are 552 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 2: making bank and the more money you, have the more 553 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 2: you want to protect, it, which in the case of, 554 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 2: marriage means getting a. Prenup do you like, that? Seguay, 555 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 2: no what's? Good well, Done we've talked about. 556 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: Prenups, YEAH i could not have replicated. That oh, my, yeah, 557 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: there human skills were a whole. Display there such a better. 558 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: Job we actually talked about prenups in depth back in 559 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 2: episode seven forty. Three AND i don't have a. PRENUP i, 560 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 2: DON'T i don't, know neither of us knew And emily 561 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: WERE i And kate thing especially for people with. 562 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: Zero, dollars like when you AND i got, married there 563 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: wasn't much to, Protect, like we hadn't built up significant. 564 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: Assets you got married when you were twenty, three twenty, 565 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: four twenty twenty. THREE i got married WHEN i was twenty, Six, 566 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: like there wasn't a lot to. PROTECT i wasn't, like, 567 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: OH i don't want my wife to have access to 568 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: this treasure trail That i've Didn't there was no treasure. 569 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 2: Trove we built it. Together. Yeah, Yeah so this was 570 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 2: an article highlighting folks who are just worth a ton of. 571 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 2: Money now they're trying to move on and not move 572 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 2: on in their, life but they're trying to build their, 573 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: lives start a, family and they're talking about, prenups and 574 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: IT'S i, mean do you feel that your, opinion BECAUSE 575 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 2: i remember after that episode one of WHAT i recall 576 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 2: your one of your takeaways being was, that you, KNOW 577 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 2: i didn't think that prenups made. Sense but the fact 578 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,959 Speaker 2: that the, state the fact that they have default rules 579 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: essentially that they follow if you don't have a, prenup 580 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 2: means depending on which state you're, in you have different prenup. Rules. 581 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah so the fact that there is sort of like 582 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 2: this default prenup depending that's basically state issued seemed like, 583 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,479 Speaker 2: IT i guess had more of an impact on. You 584 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: but do you still feel that way? NOW i? DO i. 585 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: DO i think though that it's really. Crucial like when 586 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: you're getting, married you're talking about combining right for, life 587 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: like that is that's the. Goal even when you read your, vowels, 588 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: like think about what you're saying when you read those 589 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: vows it's it's not an insignificant commitment that you're. Making 590 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: and SO i think because of, that it's just it's 591 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: important to be generous and fair when you're creating a 592 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: prenup with your. Partner i've JUST i Think i've seen 593 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,719 Speaker 1: Other i've seen relationships at times blow up before you 594 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: get to the altar because of the way the prenup process. 595 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 2: Goes, yeah that to me is like super duper. Sad 596 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: so it's. Okay it's probably better then than actually getting 597 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 2: married and finding out that they're, selfish, right because LIKE 598 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 2: i would even push it a step. Further you said 599 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: to attempt to be, fair like you got to be 600 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: more than, Fair like you have to be generous and, 601 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 2: loving because that's what as you enter into a, marriage 602 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,719 Speaker 2: it is a like you put together two people who 603 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: are selfish who only care about themselves into a marriage 604 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: and there's just nothing but a road of brokenness that lies, 605 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: ahead right as opposed to bringing together two people who 606 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: are entering into this relationship and this institution knowing, that, 607 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 2: oh this is an area Where i'm going to, sacrifice 608 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: WHERE I am going to put the other person, First 609 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: like you need both people doing that in, order, Opinion, 610 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 2: yeah to have a successful. 611 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: Marriage i've Heard i've heard friends say stuff, like, oh, 612 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: man once my spouse pays off the rest of her, 613 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: loans her student, loans that. 614 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 2: It feels off to, me, RIGHT i. 615 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: Just to, me that doesn't make sense and that's not 616 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: how we handle. Money AND i think when you look 617 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: at the statistics which we've talked about over the, years 618 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: the happiest couples are the ones who kind of combine, 619 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: everything even if one person makes substantially more than the, 620 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: other just. 621 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: Come to terms with, that embrace, it find that you've 622 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 2: got different. Strengths it's just it's so it's so weird 623 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 2: to me that money is oftentimes such a focus here 624 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 2: because money is this very, fungible renewable. Resource, essentially you 625 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: can always like go out and get more moneybe not 626 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: as much money as you currently have if you're AN 627 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 2: ai overlord or something like, that but like as opposed 628 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: to not thinking about the amount of time and like 629 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 2: life energy that you're giving this, person which is not 630 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: something that you can ever get. Back and so if 631 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 2: you are going to trust, somebody LIKE i don't, know 632 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: it's My i'm old, SCHOOL i think you should probably 633 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 2: trust them with. Everything, yeah and certainly your finances are 634 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 2: a part of, that. 635 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: And your good fortune is their good, fortune and vice. 636 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: Versa so let's talk about medical, Bills. Matt it's widely. 637 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: Known everybody pretty much knows that the number one cause 638 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: of bankruptcy is medical. Bills they're roughly a factor in 639 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: two thirds of bankruptcy. Filings people have a significant amount 640 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: of medical debt that they feel like they can't pay 641 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: or they're just unable to. Pay a lot of folks 642 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: would think it would make sense, intuitively, right that having 643 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: insurance coverage would prevent that. Possibility, Hey i've got good 644 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: health insurance and so bankruptcy because of medical, bills that's 645 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: not going to happen to. Me, well that might not be. 646 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: True there's this new health affairs study and it finds 647 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: that medical emergencies lead to bankruptcy more, often even if 648 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: you're covered by a traditional health insurance, plan like even 649 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: if you have a solid policy through your work through your, 650 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: employer because the average deductible has gone up. Meaningfully so 651 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: if you're looking at let's say a bronze plan on 652 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: the healthcare exchange on healthcare dot, gov the average deductible 653 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: is like seven thousand dollars if you have one of those, 654 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: plans not to, mention the premiums are already pretty rough 655 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: for those. Two so you're working over a lot of 656 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: money every, month and then, hey that unexpected medical bill, 657 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: comes and even after like it's corrected via, insurance it 658 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: still might be unsurmountable for. You an unexpected medical event 659 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: could mean thousands of dollars in just unexpected costs that 660 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: hit you even when you have. Insurance and so we 661 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: talk about. This the system. Sucks it's really it's a 662 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: really difficult system to. Navigate but the stress here is 663 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: that you need to have savings on hand to cover your. 664 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: Deductible and if you increase your deductible to save more 665 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: on a monthly, premium that can save money in the long, 666 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: run but it increases your need to have savings on. Hand. 667 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: Now so this study just made me, think, oh even 668 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: if you have great, insurance make sure that your emergency, 669 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: fund that your savings include on top of whatever you 670 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: need for potential, emergencies the money to cover a deductible 671 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: that's like one of those emergencies that can come, along. 672 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 2: The very likely to come. Along. Yeah, Yeah and to 673 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 2: put a point on, it the broken system isn't the 674 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 2: fact that you have to have money on hand in 675 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 2: order to pay your. Deductible and that's just that's those 676 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 2: are the rules that you signed up. For you just 677 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 2: need to make sure that you are adjusting your finances 678 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 2: to accommodate for this new plan that you're. On but 679 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: one of the solutions might be for if you're facing 680 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 2: let's say a medical procedure is to move abroad for, 681 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 2: cheap cheaper health. Care it's not as ridiculous as it might. 682 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 2: Sound depending on your health care, NEEDS i think it's 683 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: at least worth considering a trip to have that procedure. 684 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: Done maybe you don't necessarily need to move. Abroad so 685 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 2: there is a in the article there profiling a woman 686 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 2: who was PAYING i forget how. Much it is like 687 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 2: something like thirty thousand dollars is what it was going 688 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 2: to cost her, annually and so she moved To france 689 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: and it costs twelve times. Less that's something that you 690 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 2: probably move, forward right like that significantly changes your your 691 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 2: lifestyle plus but, yeah the bag atts, man that sounds 692 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 2: like another reason to. Move why? Not it's. Funny, yeah 693 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 2: we're talking with the kids literally about back, edges bagets and. Wine. 694 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 2: Baby medical tourism is understandably on the, rise but largely 695 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 2: out of. Necessity so we've got great health care here 696 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: in our, country but far too many procedures are just 697 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 2: really expensive for a whole lot of. Folks, yeah if 698 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 2: you can save fifty to seventy percent on a knee, 699 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 2: replacement why would you not consider going abroad for? That 700 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 2: or sixty to eighty percent on dental work by going To. 701 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 2: Mexico these are real. Numbers maybe don't go To mexico right? 702 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 2: Now oh, yeah, yeah avoid Where porto v our, Yeah 703 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 2: parto where, yeah where the terrorism. Is but just doing 704 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 2: research ahead of, time knowing the trade, offs know what 705 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 2: your total out of pocket costs are going to. Be 706 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: that is going to be incredibly important in order for 707 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 2: you to make this a financial. Winner one of my good, Friends, 708 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 2: matt he has a really rare heart condition and so 709 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 2: he's got to get this. Surgery and fortunately it doesn't 710 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 2: have to happen right now right, now but he's planning 711 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 2: on doing it this. Summer and as he looked in 712 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 2: and he was getting quotes on what it would cost, 713 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 2: here even with, insurance how much it was going to 714 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 2: set him back here to get the procedure done in 715 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 2: The United, states it was very, costly so much, money very, 716 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 2: Costly and he did his. Research he found there was 717 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 2: there's a doctor In england that performs actually a better 718 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 2: surgery that's less, invasive that you recover more quickly. From 719 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 2: it's going to cost him less. Money so he gets 720 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 2: a little little trip out of this with his family 721 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 2: and it's going to the recovery time is not going 722 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 2: to be nearly as bad as not going to. Be 723 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 2: to deal with what the savings, Was i'm assuming this 724 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 2: is like a closest six figure kind of. 725 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: SURGERY i think it's something close to. There i'm sure 726 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: with insurance it would have cost him a whole lot 727 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: less than, that but even still going overseas WAS i 728 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: think the price was probably, similar but he was, like, 729 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: oh this is, superior And i'm going to get a 730 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: trip out of. 731 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 2: It let's. Go so it. 732 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: Is it's one of those THINGS i, think when you 733 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: look at what's happened with medical costs in our, country 734 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: it's less ridiculous than ever before to think about traveling 735 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: to get your medical work, done depending on what it. 736 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 2: Is, sure, yeah, Okay so a less extreme way to 737 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 2: save money grocery shopping in a way that is more. 738 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 2: STRATEGIC a Recent kiplinger article recommends not just creating a 739 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 2: list and sticking to, it but seeing what you already 740 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 2: have on, hand planning out your meals around what's in your, 741 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 2: fridge what's in your. Pantry how that's going to be 742 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 2: a recipe for saving, more which sounds like good old 743 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 2: fashioned meal. Planing. JOEL i wonder if like some people 744 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 2: playing the meal but they just and then they go 745 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 2: buy everything they, need but they're not thinking about what 746 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: they already. Have, no you got to start with what 747 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 2: you got out of. Home you got you have to 748 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 2: take stock. Man and this is something THAT i am 749 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 2: proud to say that we've been doing a good bit 750 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 2: more of. Lately in, particular we've got a whole lot 751 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 2: of grant like. These kate will go to The International 752 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 2: Farmer's market and buy some of these exotic grains and 753 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 2: and it's really. Cool they're really, pretty they've got cool, 754 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 2: names really high nutrition value in some of these. Things 755 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 2: BECAUSE i don't know, WHY i don't know the colors or. 756 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 2: Something but it takes a little bit more. Work i'm 757 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 2: not gonna pretend that it's just as easy to hit, default, Right, 758 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 2: like there are certain meals that we know how to 759 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 2: cook when we go to the grocery, store we buy those. 760 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 2: Things we come, home and if it takes a little 761 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 2: more creativity to cook the things that you already have 762 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 2: at home and to use certain items in a different. 763 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 2: Way and so when it comes to like the like 764 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 2: it's like you ride doll or something like it's like, 765 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 2: THIS i don't even, know it's like some kind of 766 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 2: beans like this. Earthy, okay maybe it's grain or. SOMETHING 767 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 2: i don't. Know but we had some amazing stuffs an 768 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 2: amazing curry earlier this. Week and it feels so good 769 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 2: to utilize what you already have on. Hand it feels 770 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 2: so good to not be wasteful and to feel like 771 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 2: you are, adventurous exotic eater who's eating food from all 772 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 2: over the. World so at the same, time, yeah AND 773 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 2: i love this. 774 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: Idea just you can implement it. Whenever just, hey look 775 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: and see what you have in your, pantry your, freezer and, 776 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: say how can we get rid of a bunch of 777 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: this stuff by making meals with the we have on 778 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: hand over the next, week week and a, Half and in, 779 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: PARTICULAR i think the best time to do that is 780 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: before you go on a. 781 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 2: TRIP i, well, DUDE i love. That it's such the 782 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 2: week before were such a great game to. 783 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: Play it's, like no grocery run unless we need like 784 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: bananas or milk and, eggs yeap, milk eggs and, bananas 785 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 1: like those are the three THINGS i WILL i will 786 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: make an exception. For other than, that it's, like, no 787 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: we're just eating what we have on. Hand and then 788 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: you come back and you make the grocery store, order 789 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: then you go to the grocery run when when you. 790 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: Return that's the best way to go about. It so 791 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: if you got a trip coming, up this is a 792 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: perfect time to reduce your pantry stock and eat what's 793 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: in your, freezer because, yeah it just feels so. Good 794 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: it feels so good to come home and then. Replenish 795 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: if you got steaks in your, freezer it's not nearly as. 796 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: Painful i've Got i've got a still have some steaks on. 797 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 2: Hand, yeah BECAUSE i took advantage of the seventy five 798 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 2: dollars off per the giant side Of ribby and cut 799 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 2: my Own oh, yeah cut my own Rib, buys which 800 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 2: was the. 801 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: Ultimate, well let's say this, Means, matt that you are 802 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 1: essentially independently, wealthy because have you seen what's happening with stake? 803 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: Prices they have gone up seventeen percent year over. Year, 804 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: man well it's. Insane ground beef prices on the rise as, 805 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: well and it, just, yeah depends on what you are. 806 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: PRIORITIZING i will, say, like we don't eat steake a, 807 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: ton BUT i feel like IT'S i, mean we got 808 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: the biggest slab because it was on, sale but typically 809 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: we'll eat stake a couple of, times a couple times a. 810 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: Month and last TIME i did go to the To 811 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,760 Speaker 1: costco looking for a nice, SALE i didn't see. Anything 812 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 1: and so EVEN i think the ability to downgrade quote 813 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 1: unquote downgrade and get like The costco organic ground. Beef 814 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: you know it's got the three. Pack, yeah that's really good. 815 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 2: Stuff. Man the ability, like but it's still. Expensive it's still, 816 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 2: expensive but it's not as. Expensive so figure out for. 817 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 2: Us that was our, treat, right the ability to grill 818 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 2: Some burger's last. Weekend the weather was a little bit. 819 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 2: Nicer it was, fantastic, Man but finding out what the 820 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 2: more affordable option is going to be for, you and 821 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 2: how aggressively you're trying to attack your grocery. 822 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 1: Budget what's interesting to me, though is how as prices 823 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: have kind of stayed, inflated have like continued to creep 824 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: up on on ground ground beef and steak and red 825 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: meat in, general consumers haven't really changed their, Ways like 826 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: it seems like there. Hasn't they, haven't, Bunch they're, like all, 827 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: Right i'm just gonna continue paying. This AND i don't 828 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: know if it's because they're adjusting their budget, Accordingly, matt 829 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: and they're they're spending less in other. Areas but something's 830 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: telling me that's probably not the case that they're just 831 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: like sticking it on the credit, card, right and so 832 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: that is that's what you want to, Avoid like if 833 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: you're just used to buying steak and you're, like, oh 834 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: the price keeps going, Up i'm gonna keep buying. It that's, okay, 835 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: right it to keep buying. It but just make sure 836 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: you actually have the money and you can afford afford, 837 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: it because, yeah when you're talking about eighteen twenty bucks 838 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: a pound for like a, nice a decent, ribbi a Decent, Rabbi, 839 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: matt that isn't even like a fancy. One just that's 840 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: like a decent rabby these, days which is. INSANE i 841 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 1: think it costs for choice these. Days, yeah just make 842 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: sure you're not doing it. 843 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,359 Speaker 2: Mindlessly, yeah and don't don't sleep on. FISH i saw that. 844 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 2: Salmon there's been a dip in salmon prices because there's 845 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 2: been a a glut In norwegian's salmon coming From. Norway. Good, 846 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 2: Yeah i'll love me some, Salmon so go get you 847 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 2: some of that and there you. Go it's also quite 848 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 2: healthy for. You All. 849 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: Right that's gonna do it for this. Episode we'll put 850 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: links in the show notes to some of the stuff 851 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: we mentioned on the show, Today and as, always you 852 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: can find more money saving help and information at how 853 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: to money dot com and and the how To Money facebook. 854 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 2: Group yeah, boy that's gonna be, It so until next, 855 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,919 Speaker 2: time best friends, out best friends, out