Speaker 1: What's up, guys. It's story and I'm Anissa and this
Speaker 1: is MTV's official Challenge podcast. And today we have Niamore
Speaker 1: on the podcast and we talked to her about what
Speaker 1: it's like to be back on the Challenge. We talk
Speaker 1: about Jordan, her paddle boarding skills or lack thereof. Lack thereof, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it was amazing. I mean we get into
Speaker 1: it all. Yeah, I mean she does circles around us.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. So let's get into this interview with Naya. Yes, okay, folks,
Speaker 1: you haven't seen this lady in quite a while. Battle
Speaker 1: of the Excess Too was her last appearance, but now
Speaker 1: we have the pleasure of seeing her grace our screens.
Speaker 1: Please welcome Nyamore. Thank you ladies for having me. I
Speaker 1: cannot believe them back. I mean this is really insane,
Speaker 1: but I can't. I can't believer back too. I mean,
Speaker 1: how do you how do you feel it's real? Because
Speaker 1: I mean I tweeted as like, guys stopped asking me,
Speaker 1: I'm never going back. I didn't have a desire to
Speaker 1: go back. I didn't expect an invite to come back.
Speaker 1: And I'm just a firm believer now that never say never,
Speaker 1: because it has piven to be true in this moment,
Speaker 1: and I'm back, But I do think that the timing
Speaker 1: is appropriate. I'm a different personnel, and I think that
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it for what it was, like this beautiful
Speaker 1: opportunity that you guys have probably appreciated the entire time
Speaker 1: you've been doing it. I didn't appreciate it or understand
Speaker 1: it back then, but now it's like I'm playing the
Speaker 1: game differently and like having fun with it. I'm still
Speaker 1: a nervous, terrified wreck all the time. Or you tell
Speaker 1: I'm heavier, bad knees, I'm washed up, but how do
Speaker 1: my god, I don't know about washed up, but our
Speaker 1: bodies do go through some shit. I don't remember you
Speaker 1: ever being afraid of heights because we did free Agents together,
Speaker 1: and I don't remember he has a partner or so
Speaker 1: I never had to do a highest challenge and free
Speaker 1: agents because I got kicked off early. Remember Carmeria beat
Speaker 1: me in an elimination episode three? Yeah, yeah, and then
Speaker 1: they eliminate the highest challenges I did with Leroy. He
Speaker 1: was barking at me like it motivated me to just
Speaker 1: do it afraid. But yeah, I'm terrified a highst like
Speaker 1: he's afraid too well over water. Yeah yeah, that's like
Speaker 1: just two scary people together. Yeah. What was it like
Speaker 1: coming back on I know that you have this like
Speaker 1: new respect for it again, but also like the same
Speaker 1: fears because you're doing the challenges again. Was it scary? So,
Speaker 1: you know, was scary for me that I didn't expect
Speaker 1: being filmed on camera looked at like, I'm so socially
Speaker 1: awkward now, Whereas in my twenties I was very confident
Speaker 1: and like it was natural for me to be on camera,
Speaker 1: to just be my authentic self for better or worse.
Speaker 1: This time around, I was like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: be calculated. I want to be myself, but I am different,
Speaker 1: and so I was just bouncing between like trying to
Speaker 1: be silly and entertain entertaining uncomfortable. But I also really
Speaker 1: like solitude. I like being alone a lot and being
Speaker 1: in a house of thirty people all the time and
Speaker 1: having these rules and stuff. It was a struggle for
Speaker 1: me and I Also, a month before we went to film,
Speaker 1: I had gotten notification that I was going to go.
Speaker 1: But I always get seasonal depression around the end of summer.
Speaker 1: That's just a thing for me because I'm like a
Speaker 1: summer spring girl, and so I was in the height
Speaker 1: of that when I said yes, and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I should even do this, like you know,
Speaker 1: I mean for my mental health. I just was like,
Speaker 1: I know, I'm mentally a mature wise I can do it,
Speaker 1: but mentally I was like, I mean, I was crying
Speaker 1: every day, Like I was just like, yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: like yeah, And like right before those calls go back out,
Speaker 1: you know, there's always that feeling of like, oh that
Speaker 1: could be fun, even though you had tweeted that you
Speaker 1: never wanted to come back, But as soon as you
Speaker 1: say yes to it, it's like all those nerves like
Speaker 1: resurface and you're like, oh my god, I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to deal with this kind of criticism or how am
Speaker 1: I going to look doing this? Or I mean it
Speaker 1: is hard not to mention obviously challenges and eliminations and
Speaker 1: I mean this this daily challenge. You were in a
Speaker 1: lead for a while there and then it got hard,
Speaker 1: you know, talk to us about what went on, what
Speaker 1: was going on in your mind that day. Okay, So
Speaker 1: I have never had a board in I know, like
Speaker 1: I know but okay. So I started asking everyone around me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, have you had a boarder? Have you had
Speaker 1: a border? And most of the guys were like no,
Speaker 1: and the girls are like no. But I knew Kelly
Speaker 1: I'm a strong ass. I was like asking her like,
Speaker 1: how do you do this? Like what's the fundamentals? Give
Speaker 1: me the like cheet code really quickly, and so going
Speaker 1: into when we got to the line, I saw how
Speaker 1: short the race was because I was obviously it was
Speaker 1: very early on and people noticed that I had the
Speaker 1: worst endurance. I was bathing in the house like I
Speaker 1: but I was like, this is a sprint. I can
Speaker 1: actually have the longer legs. I can beat you guys.
Speaker 1: And Kelly gave me this like confidence, and I thought
Speaker 1: the paddle boarding would be easy for me because I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, I used to be an athlete. Shouldn't
Speaker 1: be that hard. We're just going around this little bend
Speaker 1: um Okay. So when we started the race, I get there,
Speaker 1: I think after Ronnie, she is like a stallion. I
Speaker 1: mean you could just tell by her body. Yes. But
Speaker 1: I the first place I started scraping. I immediately get
Speaker 1: the codes. I'm like, oh my god, the stars are
Speaker 1: aligning like I'm about to, like now show these girls
Speaker 1: and I'm not a total bum, And so I get
Speaker 1: my paddle board unlocked. First I get to the water.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm e xooting confidence and I'm hoping that
Speaker 1: like the guys are looking at me and thinking like
Speaker 1: if we have to do partners later, but here I
Speaker 1: am guys proving myself right And no, I mean almost
Speaker 1: if you hit a circle, no, because I didn't know
Speaker 1: because when you look at it and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's doing okay, and you think it's editing, like maybe
Speaker 1: that's showing that, but I'm like, I think she's just
Speaker 1: made like a half turn at another half turn, but
Speaker 1: I think she just made a circle. Just made a circle.
Speaker 1: It was really hard and I felt I felt really hard,
Speaker 1: like multiple times. I mean the bruise that I got
Speaker 1: from it was so gnarly. And I remember asking the
Speaker 1: boys later, I was like, is this because I'm like
Speaker 1: really tall and I don't have a lot of like
Speaker 1: balance and they're like, yeah, like you were never going
Speaker 1: to be good at that unless you are a powder
Speaker 1: border um. But also I was gassed even from trying
Speaker 1: to like paddle the thing, and I remember production was
Speaker 1: screaming at me because I kept getting on my knees
Speaker 1: or like nya stand up. But I'm like, for what,
Speaker 1: I'm already using this, Like let me just like have
Speaker 1: my dignity and get on my knees a paddle? Did
Speaker 1: Kelly and give you any like good strategy? Well it's
Speaker 1: based on her small compact body. That is also a propos. No, No,
Speaker 1: let me show you what works from my body. Let's
Speaker 1: see if we could apply it to yours. It's so easy,
Speaker 1: like I promise you're just gonna and I'm like, just
Speaker 1: say you went and down on the much confidence You're like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you how I run circles. I thought
Speaker 1: it was great for that episode. I mean, when you
Speaker 1: look back on it, you can laugh at it. I'm
Speaker 1: sure in the moment it was frustrating, and then it
Speaker 1: becomes like kind of silly, like, well, fuck it, I'm
Speaker 1: already I'm already here for sure, for sure obviously, like
Speaker 1: you can't train for everything in the challenge because like
Speaker 1: I mean, you just can't. But was there anything that
Speaker 1: you specifically did train for before you got on the show.
Speaker 1: These are last guys you can't see though, um no,
Speaker 1: because I maybe kind of made a decision until a
Speaker 1: month before. So I remember I got a boxing trainer,
Speaker 1: and I had a really badass, like female trainer come
Speaker 1: and see me a few days a week. But it
Speaker 1: was like trying to put a band aid on a gushing,
Speaker 1: out of shape room. So no, I wasn't gonna be sorry.
Speaker 1: You're going to prepare for a challenge in five minutes,
Speaker 1: and I just was delusional in thinking that I was
Speaker 1: going to do that. Did you train it all while
Speaker 1: you were there? I mean I went so I told
Speaker 1: you I was really socially awkward, so I kind of
Speaker 1: just hit in my room a lot. And when I
Speaker 1: did train, it was like maybe twice a week, and
Speaker 1: I would do it when the boys were in the gym,
Speaker 1: just to show them, like, hey, guys in working out,
Speaker 1: like choose me. Yeah, did we work out together? And
Speaker 1: Zach used to be our trainer, but that was different
Speaker 1: and he said I was like in shape and I
Speaker 1: like to work out. Yeah, but I didn't like to
Speaker 1: work out at all. Oh yes, I did. Wait does
Speaker 1: that before I started training? It doesn't matter. We all
Speaker 1: were working out in the house though, I remember, like
Speaker 1: we all were just doing it, but we didn't do
Speaker 1: it a lot. I think we did it out a boarder.
Speaker 1: I think we only did it the first week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we did a great job on those two workouts though,
Speaker 1: we did really well. Yeah, so cheer stuffs. Right, So
Speaker 1: obviously you didn't get some workouts in, which is like
Speaker 1: totally fine. But were there any like specific goals obviously,
Speaker 1: like you said, you feel like you're a new person.
Speaker 1: It's been a minute since you graced our screens. Like,
Speaker 1: what was the goal stepping into this show? Honestly, my
Speaker 1: goal was to not run away, like get there like
Speaker 1: I had every this, I had this feeling in my
Speaker 1: head that I was going to get there, I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm not cut out for this and find a
Speaker 1: reason to leave or to quit, or to just sabotage myself.
Speaker 1: I just had a gut rinching feeling that I was
Speaker 1: all about self sabotage that season because I hadn't defined
Speaker 1: my why going into it, and trying to define that
Speaker 1: when you get there is just silly, Like you need
Speaker 1: to have that already established, and I wouldn't honestly have gone,
Speaker 1: Like I've said this on other interviews, if Jordan's kind
Speaker 1: of gone because I was just like, I'm so out
Speaker 1: of my element. I haven't done this in so long.
Speaker 1: I'm so far removed. I don't know if these people
Speaker 1: even want me here. I don't know why they decided
Speaker 1: to bring me back. I'm out of shape. I'm you know,
Speaker 1: my personality is different. I really like kind of doing
Speaker 1: my own thing. I like my freedom, and I am
Speaker 1: very mindful that as it pertains to just like the
Speaker 1: person I want to be is a daily choice. It's
Speaker 1: not like I'm just a totally rejuvenated girl who's alls
Speaker 1: in like I still have I'm slower to anger, but
Speaker 1: I have to check myself. And so I didn't know
Speaker 1: being in that environment was going to be conducive for that,
Speaker 1: and so I didn't want to slide all the way back.
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, okay, you know, like what am
Speaker 1: I doing here? Um? Sorry, Tory, what be your question?
Speaker 1: You don't have adhd no, no, no, no no, no, that
Speaker 1: was right, And I and I think it is, you know,
Speaker 1: just beautiful to say because obviously, you know you said
Speaker 1: going into it, having Jordan there was really important for
Speaker 1: you. You You guys had this like huge history that's taken
Speaker 1: like a very public turn in a way, and I
Speaker 1: mean from somebody as a viewer standpoint, it is beautiful
Speaker 1: to watch that, to see two people who have been
Speaker 1: through a lot and then yeah, you know, fine, fine,
Speaker 1: hope and like loving each other. So I really am
Speaker 1: happy for you guys, and thank you. I really have.
Speaker 1: Like I can tell, I was a little, you know, nervous.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know if n I knows
Speaker 1: I hosted the podcast. I don't know if she's gonna
Speaker 1: what this is gonna look like, you know, I really do.
Speaker 1: I am happy for you guys, and I'm and he
Speaker 1: seems like he's happy. You seem like you're happy, and
Speaker 1: I think even you showing up like maybe that was
Speaker 1: your why. Just showing up and showing who you are
Speaker 1: today like that is a beautiful thing to do and
Speaker 1: hard to do in this industry. Thank you. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: I know that I've talked to I've talked to previous
Speaker 1: cast members and people in public and in private, like
Speaker 1: while on the show or like off camera about like
Speaker 1: kind of moving away from who they were. I think
Speaker 1: the audience at times expects us to be the same
Speaker 1: people because it was entertaining back in two thousand and whatever,
Speaker 1: but it is not where we are now and we
Speaker 1: don't find it entertaining. Probably isn't entertaining for the times.
Speaker 1: But these people that you know, one person in particular
Speaker 1: who had such a rough time and was nervous to
Speaker 1: come back because of how they were portrayed the first
Speaker 1: time around, and that kind of like sticks with you.
Speaker 1: So I know that it can be hard to come
Speaker 1: on and it's like introducing a new person to like
Speaker 1: all of these people, um and like really being authentically
Speaker 1: you and then having this whole audience have this set
Speaker 1: expectation that part you know, So it's it's a lot
Speaker 1: to do. I don't think people realize how many things
Speaker 1: you take on when you sign the contract. It's not
Speaker 1: just at home. It's like, hey, you know, there's all
Speaker 1: these other things I have been doing and working on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and if you haven't grown then I'd be like, Naia,
Speaker 1: come on, so yeah, like it's been so many years,
Speaker 1: there has to be some change, you know. So I
Speaker 1: williaened you for coming coming on and doing your thing,
Speaker 1: because I know it's it's not easy. Yeah, and you've
Speaker 1: been doing so much with your life outside, right, Like
Speaker 1: what what specifically do you do for work. Now, do
Speaker 1: you work as a private jet chef? Yeah, so attendant,
Speaker 1: but I do took on the airplanes on occasion, which
Speaker 1: is fun because before I was doing this, I was
Speaker 1: cook I was a nanny, I was a housekeeper, I
Speaker 1: was an exact hoostison, I was a bartender, waitress, all
Speaker 1: these hospitality jobs and I just loved it because I
Speaker 1: didn't used to like to work. Like I remember one
Speaker 1: of the things Jordan said about me on the real world.
Speaker 1: He's like, you don't like to work, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: And I'm not afraid to admit that I'm a lady
Speaker 1: of leisure. I don't want to there was a certain
Speaker 1: arrogance attached to it. Wasn't ure lady of leisure for me.
Speaker 1: It was really I was just lazy and I didn't
Speaker 1: have ambition, and so I tried to glamorize that. And
Speaker 1: then I found my ambition in service and serving others,
Speaker 1: and I really just was like, Okay, I want to
Speaker 1: just do everything in this industry. And I would always
Speaker 1: stumble into new jobs and new opportunities, and then five
Speaker 1: years ago I found corporate Aviation, which was like encompass
Speaker 1: everything that I've been doing in one job and I
Speaker 1: get to see the world and need a lot of
Speaker 1: cool people and get a lot of this food, and
Speaker 1: it's like, thank god, it's the only job in my life.
Speaker 1: I've never been fired from before. Wait, how long have
Speaker 1: you been doing it? Almost six years? And at how
Speaker 1: often do you take off? Oh, I'm gone? So like
Speaker 1: I am. I'm a contractor, so I basically just wait
Speaker 1: for someone to call me and say, hey, would you
Speaker 1: like this trip or whatever. So I'm usually going like
Speaker 1: twenty days a month, maybe more. It's so fun, see
Speaker 1: you fucking later people. And then I have the best
Speaker 1: dogs tendling Kylie. I was just well, like they have.
Speaker 1: I have a husband and wife that watched them, and
Speaker 1: then I have like two backups. But they have a
Speaker 1: gated yard, they work from home. They spoiled them, like
Speaker 1: even when I picked them up. You can tell my
Speaker 1: dogs are like not really happy about coming back to
Speaker 1: my apartment in downtown like my mom for real. But
Speaker 1: I'm just like, yeah, but those are like the grandparents, yes,
Speaker 1: and they're always like, okay, so when's your next trip.
Speaker 1: We were ready for the girls to come back. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I just love knowing that I have someone that loves
Speaker 1: my dabies as much as I do, so I can
Speaker 1: travel and be gone and do you know, do what
Speaker 1: I need to do. So that's all I need when
Speaker 1: I get a dog, because this lady came over and
Speaker 1: she had a puppy Frenchie and it felt it was
Speaker 1: just nestled right here, and I'm like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: what I need to do. Yeah, I need to be
Speaker 1: a therapist and I need a doll. Yeah, just so
Speaker 1: much shit, Tori, when you take care of my pet. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: so wait, let me say one more thing, Tori. Yeah,
Speaker 1: most people don't know this, so like, yeah, I've been
Speaker 1: doing this job for almost six years, but when I
Speaker 1: actually actively started pursuing a career in corporate aviation, nobody
Speaker 1: would hire me for a year and a half because
Speaker 1: of what I did on the challenge in the real world,
Speaker 1: and I never thought the consequences would come back. And
Speaker 1: that's the one thing I want people to know from this.
Speaker 1: It's even if you never go on TV, everything you
Speaker 1: say in a text, everything you say you say on
Speaker 1: social media, everything you do like you just be mindful
Speaker 1: of it and know that once it's outside of your mouth,
Speaker 1: it can find you again. And people will judge you.
Speaker 1: I was. This was six or seven years later and
Speaker 1: people were still like, Nope, that's who you are. And
Speaker 1: especially as a black woman, it was like I had
Speaker 1: to fight and dig and prove myself and once I
Speaker 1: got in, I had to outperform. And I'm not a victim.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that that happened to me, because it humbled me.
Speaker 1: I've been given so many things in life based on
Speaker 1: how I loved, you know, and I just never had
Speaker 1: to work for anything. And I just thank god that
Speaker 1: everything transpired the way it did because now I have
Speaker 1: some wisdom to offer as opposed to like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just got this job because you know, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I just I'm thankful. And it's
Speaker 1: amazing because you know, from people who now watch you,
Speaker 1: and people who watch All Stars are fans of like
Speaker 1: the old Real World, you know, like they know all
Speaker 1: the cast members who were on it, so to watch
Speaker 1: this just transformation just so naturally happened. And then it's
Speaker 1: honestly helped you a lot in the game. With how
Speaker 1: you're playing this season two, You're you're like in this
Speaker 1: perfect spot of like not floating, but in a way
Speaker 1: you kind of want to be in between alliances. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is amazing because it's like you don't necessarily have
Speaker 1: it for the treehouse, but you're like not against Kelly
Speaker 1: and you're like being nice everybody. Do you think that
Speaker 1: Do you think that number one working in aviation has
Speaker 1: helped you in this game because you talk to so
Speaker 1: many different types of people? Yeah? And then yes, and
Speaker 1: because I have to check my emotions at the door, yeah,
Speaker 1: And so it's not about like my show up to work.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm going to be dealing with all types
Speaker 1: of pressure, random things, wearing a million hats. I have
Speaker 1: to give service with a smile. But it's more so
Speaker 1: about checking my emotions. Like I could say something, I
Speaker 1: could feel a way about a client being demanding, but
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like what's going to
Speaker 1: get me the better outcome, like being rooted in emotion
Speaker 1: and acting on that or saying, Okay, how can I
Speaker 1: find a solution to this situation? And also I don't
Speaker 1: need to feed my ego while doing it, and therapy
Speaker 1: I love because I would not be where I'm at
Speaker 1: right now either, just like my thought process without it.
Speaker 1: So please guys shout out to therapy and go through
Speaker 1: and everybody should talk to someone your therapists like, just
Speaker 1: take your time to go through multiple people and find
Speaker 1: your person. And I'm telling you a game changer. I agree.
Speaker 1: I think that's amazing. I really do think. I think
Speaker 1: this is and I also, well, one thing I like
Speaker 1: is you don't really make promises. I don't think really
Speaker 1: at all. It's it's a game I like to play.
Speaker 1: If you don't make any promise, you can't break any
Speaker 1: and then you kind of like use the game like
Speaker 1: you would normally, Like I guess, attack a situation at home,
Speaker 1: and how would I finesse this situation if I were home? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like nothing really changes, So I like that. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's it's been really nice to see different people come
Speaker 1: into All Stars that haven't played a while, with people
Speaker 1: who have played the last two All Stars. Yeah, to
Speaker 1: see how like things are going, because All Stars is
Speaker 1: very different, I think from the flagship show. But it
Speaker 1: also is becoming this in and of itself. That's like
Speaker 1: it's getting spicy, you know. And he said, that's how
Speaker 1: you avoid like bad karma. It's not making any promises.
Speaker 1: That's how I am with men. But like fun, don't
Speaker 1: fall in love. I just want to write getting my freedom,
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna help you as much love as I
Speaker 1: can give you, but don't fight for me. And you
Speaker 1: do that and I walk away. It's not on me,
Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna make it. You know what I mean? No, here,
Speaker 1: you already plaid the foundation of Hello. I thought we
Speaker 1: were just doing this. We had clear lines of communication.
Speaker 1: Come on over, this is drink and have some food sometimes.
Speaker 1: But you gotta go because I really loved being alone.
Speaker 1: I don't like when people are here when I wake up,
Speaker 1: Like after that, you gotta go. You can get some
Speaker 1: I gotta I'm gonna gotta go like you. But yeah,
Speaker 1: but I like I like my coffee, my poop. You
Speaker 1: gotta eat Jesus at eight am. You gotta go. What
Speaker 1: you act like you on poop to you in bag ofcale.
Speaker 1: I know I do take dungs. I do, Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: not great. Well, to go back to that, I'm sure
Speaker 1: any guy that you make breakfast for is absolutely fucking
Speaker 1: loving it. And if I ever woke up next to
Speaker 1: you and you mean to be breakfast, I would I
Speaker 1: would not take a dong in your bathroom. I wating
Speaker 1: for lunch. No, I had intense tory. So you're totally
Speaker 1: well perfect excellent. So this game, we had talked about
Speaker 1: it a little bit, is getting obviously super super spicy.
Speaker 1: This episode's interesting because you see this little exchange, or
Speaker 1: you're part of this little exchange. You hear Sylvia say
Speaker 1: something after Kelly Anne starts to celebrate this win, and
Speaker 1: then you tell Kelly Anne, right, I'm assuming it came
Speaker 1: from you, and then you get called down by Sylvia
Speaker 1: to go into elimination. Did you think that the spilling
Speaker 1: of that information led up to you being her decision? No?
Speaker 1: No at all. Um, here's the thing. I peeped early
Speaker 1: on that the Treehouse was banding together, and I just
Speaker 1: never realized that, like, okay, maybe like rooms will click
Speaker 1: up so hard that they come up with a nickname
Speaker 1: and they're really gunning for us out loud, because we
Speaker 1: never did that, Like we just were kind of like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're getting to know each other. We're not making promises,
Speaker 1: but there was this understanding that we're not going for
Speaker 1: each other. But they made it that way because they
Speaker 1: were like, oh, we're banned together. And I started hearing
Speaker 1: like little side comments here and there. But I just
Speaker 1: was trying to stay out of the drama um for
Speaker 1: the most part. But I just I never could understand
Speaker 1: where what the motive was, Like why was there a
Speaker 1: target on kelly An's back? Why was there a target
Speaker 1: on Kendle's back. I could understand a target on Johnny
Speaker 1: back because she just won. That's a healthy target, right,
Speaker 1: But like, I just couldn't understand what Kelly An what
Speaker 1: it was about. But it wasn't about her her in
Speaker 1: the game. It was like bothered by her existence. And
Speaker 1: I mean Sylvia almost said that, She's like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is about her. And I've been one
Speaker 1: of those girls in life where women have said that
Speaker 1: about me. They're like, I don't know what it is
Speaker 1: about her. I just don't mind her into me. That's
Speaker 1: such a lame cop out because it's like, I don't
Speaker 1: have that kind of energy towards women. I don't have
Speaker 1: jealous or competitive like nature as it pertains to women.
Speaker 1: It's like, if you have something that I like, or
Speaker 1: there's you have a genas choa or whatever, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hang around you and get to know you and whatever.
Speaker 1: And I think that Kelly Anne was very confident, she
Speaker 1: was very social. She's really easy to look at. I mean,
Speaker 1: she's so like a nice body, you know. But I
Speaker 1: just like, there was just so many times where it
Speaker 1: was like I would hear them, like she could just breathe,
Speaker 1: and it was like, oh, and to me, that's so
Speaker 1: lame at our age, like come on, y'all, Like there
Speaker 1: has to be more of a justified reason to just
Speaker 1: not like somebody, and it really I couldn't find one.
Speaker 1: I never heard one. So I just was kind of
Speaker 1: like shocked that Sylvia decided to be that person in
Speaker 1: the house because also I thought she and I were cool,
Speaker 1: but then I learned later that maybe that wasn't the case,
Speaker 1: so whatever. Um, Yeah, we just had Sylvia on and
Speaker 1: I was talking to her about like, sometimes we just
Speaker 1: don't like people because we don't like them, and it's
Speaker 1: okay not to like them. I don't know how to fight.
Speaker 1: I mean, there are people that have rubbed me the
Speaker 1: wrong way on the show where I'm like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I get that, really don't know what it is, but
Speaker 1: everything I'm like, I just can't fuck with this girl, Okay,
Speaker 1: So I won't be around them exactly. So you remove yourself.
Speaker 1: You just limit your time around that person, but yeahs
Speaker 1: agonized or pick at them or bully them or do
Speaker 1: mean comments where you know they're hearing you, And then
Speaker 1: you have other girls that are that to me is unnecessary.
Speaker 1: I don't like happy people in the house, but I'm
Speaker 1: not going to like I just remove myself from you know.
Speaker 1: I go and take the hot level bath and I
Speaker 1: like have my babe and I cry about how batters
Speaker 1: play at home with my dogs, like, and then I
Speaker 1: go back out there and I'm kind and decent and
Speaker 1: then when I find my space, I find my space.
Speaker 1: But to just latantly be like rolling your eyes, snickering,
Speaker 1: laugh and giggling behind people's backs. To me, you know,
Speaker 1: we're all grown as women now, and it's like I
Speaker 1: just don't get, like why it has to be that way,
Speaker 1: you know what it makes me think? And not that
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's not grown on the show, but
Speaker 1: there's obviously different decades of people coming on the show,
Speaker 1: like the Kelly An era, which is different than the
Speaker 1: Kayla and Sylvia era, so you think that it has
Speaker 1: something to do with that. So I really didn't watch
Speaker 1: the show unless I was on it, So I don't
Speaker 1: know the history of like how this game was played
Speaker 1: or how the women interacted. I honestly, I wish I
Speaker 1: could give you some type of insight into that, but I, Torrea,
Speaker 1: I can't. Yeah, but I just think that I had
Speaker 1: conversations with Sylvia, like personal conversations about her life and
Speaker 1: things that I'm just not going to repeat because she
Speaker 1: told me that, like, you know, poured her heart out
Speaker 1: and was being vulnerable. Yeah, but I think that it's
Speaker 1: more of an internal thing. And I used to be
Speaker 1: a mean girl, so this is me coming from a
Speaker 1: position of experience, so I'm not condemning her. I just
Speaker 1: was like, no, no, no, like, don't beat don't do that,
Speaker 1: don't be that, because you know, I just I saw
Speaker 1: so much good in Sylvia for real, Like me and
Speaker 1: her had like we didn't talk all the time, but
Speaker 1: when we did, it was I felt like it was
Speaker 1: genuine at least I thought, And you know, I just
Speaker 1: expected more from us collectively. Oh yeah, I guess I
Speaker 1: would be disappointed that she'd call you in to elimination,
Speaker 1: But do you think so expected you to fail? So
Speaker 1: the first night in the house, we were all drunk.
Speaker 1: We just moved in. We were having a pool party.
Speaker 1: I needed my time alone, so I kind of like
Speaker 1: tried to go find the upstairs pool. We had a
Speaker 1: nice upstairs pool, so I was like, I want to
Speaker 1: skinny up while everybody else in the house was downstairs.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just like let my hair down. I've been
Speaker 1: having a lot of drinks. Kelly, um, Sylvia and Kayla
Speaker 1: are in that upstairs pool, and so they basically come
Speaker 1: to me and they say, Naya, we want to form
Speaker 1: an alliance. I forgot that was even part of the game.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, it was. I'm on vacation. Yeah, girl,
Speaker 1: I like and sound like, literally I'm drunk. I'm probably
Speaker 1: cross that. I'm like, yeah, of course, these are the
Speaker 1: first one that come to me. So but at the
Speaker 1: same time, I learned quickly that they were two of
Speaker 1: the best players in the house. I'm like, oh, how
Speaker 1: sweet is that? Like they've already put me, you know,
Speaker 1: in their back pocket, and I've got them in my
Speaker 1: back pocket. It was an unspoken thing. I just automatically assumed,
Speaker 1: under no circumstances, because they came to me first, that
Speaker 1: they would never call my name, and I would never
Speaker 1: call their name or never encouraging I want to call
Speaker 1: the name, like I just would stay out of the
Speaker 1: way why things were happening. And so when Sylvia called
Speaker 1: my name, it blindsided me. Like, I know, it looks
Speaker 1: like in the video that I was like scared or nervous.
Speaker 1: I really wasn't. I just was more focused and like
Speaker 1: kind of just awkward. But when she said my name,
Speaker 1: I was like, what I mean, I was wearing pants,
Speaker 1: I didn't even like I had like no idea, my
Speaker 1: hair was down. I didn't think I was getting called,
Speaker 1: did you? And so yeah, go ahead? Sorry, No, I'm sorry, babe. No.
Speaker 1: Well after that first Drunken Alliance encounter, did you guys
Speaker 1: talk about it? After that, we revisited it and we
Speaker 1: had conversations about who they were voting for, and they would,
Speaker 1: you know, I would say, well, you know, and I
Speaker 1: just all we would check in, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like they'd be like, hey, you know, are we good?
Speaker 1: Are we good? And they always would make me feel safe.
Speaker 1: But I was never winning, so it wasn't like they
Speaker 1: had to check in with me. Um. So yeah, but
Speaker 1: I just don't I would have liked the heads up.
Speaker 1: I would have loved if Sylvia said you may go in,
Speaker 1: but also that she didn't because I think that that
Speaker 1: bennefited me, just being like fight or flight, go in
Speaker 1: there and do what you need to do. Also, it
Speaker 1: could have changed because she didn't see it. Sylvia didn't
Speaker 1: see the elimination. I think she would want to see
Speaker 1: that first, because it was wrestling or something like that.
Speaker 1: I would have been like, Sis, Gibby, who's what is
Speaker 1: everybody way up there? Okay, I don't know. If I
Speaker 1: don't know, if I can say this, you can say it,
Speaker 1: um Okay. So Sylvia told me, or I think after
Speaker 1: she left, some of the people, some of the guys
Speaker 1: in the house told me that when we were standing
Speaker 1: a line going into the dome. Uh John Ay was
Speaker 1: kind of in the front, and she saw what it
Speaker 1: was and apparently it looked like a puzzle that she
Speaker 1: had done before. So she kind of verbalized, how loud,
Speaker 1: I've done this before, and Sylvia heard, I think it's sneaky,
Speaker 1: little sister. It was very smart. Yeah, So I think
Speaker 1: that was the only reason. Yeah, right, And also i'd
Speaker 1: be terrible, Yeah, you don't want I think it's I
Speaker 1: think it's the confidence going into a puzzle because you
Speaker 1: you do have to remain calm, which is what I
Speaker 1: thought was actually going to be like ended up being
Speaker 1: your strength. I thought it could have potentially been a weakness,
Speaker 1: just because when you go in so fired up, it's
Speaker 1: hard to like slow down and think. But it's like
Speaker 1: you just like were your fire like locked you in.
Speaker 1: It was like, which is really cool. And also I
Speaker 1: noticed like when people do puzzles and you have people
Speaker 1: yelling for you in the back, like Jordan's obviously screaming
Speaker 1: for you. He really wants you to win. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you're trying to focus on this puzzle. Did you feel
Speaker 1: like it was helpful to have somebody cheering you on
Speaker 1: in that moment or do you feel like it was?
Speaker 1: And so here's the thing. I was so angry once
Speaker 1: I got down there, and once we learned that it
Speaker 1: was a puzzle, because we didn't know what that was.
Speaker 1: By the time we even got started, I had already
Speaker 1: because we had a chance to look at our boards,
Speaker 1: I had already figured out halfway I'm like, I'm beating her.
Speaker 1: So I was that angry, but I also was like, please, Jordan,
Speaker 1: he knows me. I'm like, if I get frantic. Just
Speaker 1: you don't have to even tell me what to do,
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna figure this out on my own. But
Speaker 1: let me hear your voice. I need to know, Like,
Speaker 1: I just got to hear your voice. And so once
Speaker 1: I got to the middle and I really started getting flustered,
Speaker 1: He's like, you got it, you got it, you got it, okay. Um,
Speaker 1: And that was just nice because I remember in like
Speaker 1: Free Agents, like nobody was cheering for me while I
Speaker 1: was gonna get star. Remember I would have been cheering.
Speaker 1: You were also so far away. You were on the
Speaker 1: other side of the there was nobody. Everybody cheering was
Speaker 1: on cars right here. That's true. That one was so long.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, um, but yeah, I it was nice to
Speaker 1: have somebody, you know. I didn't expect anyone to say
Speaker 1: anything because like I was silent most of the time
Speaker 1: when I was on the bridge. It's one of those
Speaker 1: things where it's like you you're scared to like cheer
Speaker 1: too hard because if that person comes back, they're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I heard you. And then also you're just so laser
Speaker 1: focused on watching like the competition. Um. But yeah. The
Speaker 1: one thing is I am a decent pool player, and
Speaker 1: so I knew if I get out of this first,
Speaker 1: I'm getting it on the first shot. I don't give
Speaker 1: a fuck, Like I knew. I feel like maybe you
Speaker 1: should be like doing aviation pool League, possibly, like maybe
Speaker 1: running a couple bets in the sky legally. Are there
Speaker 1: laws out there who want to do girl, we just started.
Speaker 1: You heard it here first, Um listen, patent pending. Don't
Speaker 1: try and take it. We've already already doing the paperwork
Speaker 1: right now. I bet it felt so good for you
Speaker 1: for that ball to go in on the first one
Speaker 1: the home It was so good. I also loved how
Speaker 1: the girls heat that happened to the girls eating, not
Speaker 1: the guys that Derek ran in front of the opening.
Speaker 1: I'm like I would have at least even a sand out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it an your ship was so good because if you
Speaker 1: want to beat somebody, that's the way you beat them,
Speaker 1: not if it's close. You fucking pollen one, see you later.
Speaker 1: And then that huge celebration, I mean you had like
Speaker 1: a nice like whoa you gave me like that like
Speaker 1: solid reaction and then she was like yeah, but like
Speaker 1: it was like it it was like in a portion
Speaker 1: of time, Darius was like you could see that he
Speaker 1: was celebrating beyond I mean yeah, and it's a puzzle
Speaker 1: to be fair, like the guy's not deserve. Yeah, Derek
Speaker 1: deserved to celebrate like that for sure. He was like
Speaker 1: it was amaze. I'm like either way. Yeah, so now
Speaker 1: in this game, you have one elimination under your belt,
Speaker 1: you have a star. What changes now going back into
Speaker 1: the game. How do you feel? I mean, nothing really
Speaker 1: changed for me because that was the bill, just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I have this one star, but I haven't performed well
Speaker 1: this entire challenge, so it really didn't mean that much
Speaker 1: to me. Maybe if I had earned like two or three.
Speaker 1: But Johnny is the one that has them, I think
Speaker 1: the most of them at this point in the game.
Speaker 1: Um No, I still felt like I had so much
Speaker 1: to prove and that wasn't a physical thing, which is
Speaker 1: what everybody expects me to do is to dominate the
Speaker 1: physical stuff. So we're getting down to the wire and
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, now you got to step up, like
Speaker 1: you need to win an actual challenge, Like fuck this
Speaker 1: like elimination, Like it was cute, but like I need
Speaker 1: to like do more. Yeah, I think a season's going
Speaker 1: to be the rest of the season's going to be incredible.
Speaker 1: It's actually my favorite All Stars that we've I've said
Speaker 1: this before, aside from Anissa's because you know, I gotta
Speaker 1: like love a Nisaea and we did the first one,
Speaker 1: but no, this one's spice. I mean, I would like
Speaker 1: to be part of any of them. I think All
Speaker 1: Stars is a whole different a whole different vibe. And
Speaker 1: I love my old folks from back when I started
Speaker 1: because I kind of transcended these different generations. So it's
Speaker 1: really nice to see people part of yeah, part of
Speaker 1: my life, part of my history. Yeah, part of why
Speaker 1: I am the way I am, Yes, because I've had
Speaker 1: to deal with all of them, all these different personalities
Speaker 1: for twenty years. Yeah. Only know. Well, I hope there's
Speaker 1: an All Stars four, and if there is, I hope
Speaker 1: to see you Anissa Tori. I know I probably won't
Speaker 1: because you dominate on the regular one, but I would
Speaker 1: like to see you in real life. So if you're
Speaker 1: ever in la from seeing yeah, I'll bring me so well,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, there would be a big fight. It
Speaker 1: would be I know. No, so my dogs are terrified
Speaker 1: a cat, so they would just respect boundaries. Um, but
Speaker 1: if you're ever here like in La either of you
Speaker 1: and you need to place a crash. I live downtown,
Speaker 1: have a keyte place like, I'm hardly never here, so
Speaker 1: I'll just leave you a key, but that for real,
Speaker 1: I also want you to be there for it, so yeah,
Speaker 1: or just leave leave the pets. Yeah, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for coming on the podcast and also for being
Speaker 1: on All Stars three. We have one last question that
Speaker 1: we ask everybody. Yea, since this is All Stars three
Speaker 1: and you had to make a team up of three
Speaker 1: other competitors, who would you pick? Guy or girl? Yeah, guys,
Speaker 1: one girl and a guy. Two guys. You're making a
Speaker 1: team of four, okay, two guys. Okay, So I would say,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd be dumb not to choose her right now. John, Ay,
Speaker 1: I mean, she's proven that she's just fears on all
Speaker 1: levels and the guys for sure, hands down West and Jordan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a team right there, that's a squad. It is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a demmination. I cannot wait to see. I mean,
Speaker 1: all the people that you just named are still in
Speaker 1: the game. I cannot wait. It's it's literally the best
Speaker 1: season ever. So yeah, thank you again for coming on
Speaker 1: it's been awesome. Thank you for inviting me. Seriously, ladies,
Speaker 1: what's your Instagram handle so everyone can follow you and
Speaker 1: send you a lot of love. Oh yeah, it's really easy.
Speaker 1: They're real Niam Moore's and I am more. Oh. I
Speaker 1: thought it would be like Nia in the sky, I
Speaker 1: follow you so yeah, so awesome. Well, thank you so much. Nia.
Speaker 1: It's gonna thank you, radies. I love you, Take care
Speaker 1: you two. It was great seeing guys. That was a
Speaker 1: great interview with Nia. She gave me everything I needed
Speaker 1: to know. It's so wonderful to see the growth of
Speaker 1: this woman. Um, I think it's really nice to see
Speaker 1: any of the of our former cast members just really
Speaker 1: show this amazing growth and self awareness. So it's really
Speaker 1: nice to have her back on. Watch her not addle
Speaker 1: board correctly, but you know what, Nia, girl, you have
Speaker 1: time and we have faith, and you know what, it
Speaker 1: was also really nice talking to her. I was nervous, Anisa,
Speaker 1: you know this. I was nervous for this episode because
Speaker 1: it is interesting. It's an interesting conversation to have, right
Speaker 1: It's like I'm watching a new relationship, old relationship but
Speaker 1: you know, evolve in front of my eyes, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: but I am happy for them, and I'm happy for her,
Speaker 1: and I think that she is a really really open
Speaker 1: and honest and nice person to speak to. And I
Speaker 1: was actually really pleasantly surprised with how well this podcast
Speaker 1: episode went. Yeah, it was very refreshing. I liked watching it,
Speaker 1: So shout out to Naya for making what could have
Speaker 1: been a very awkward situation super comfortable. That was really
Speaker 1: really cool of her and Anissa. I also love you,
Speaker 1: so where can we follow you on social media and
Speaker 1: send you love? You can follow me on Instagram and
Speaker 1: Anissa MTV. That's a n s a MTV. You can
Speaker 1: also send me listener questions please and thank you. Tory,
Speaker 1: where can we find you? Follow you? Are you? I've
Speaker 1: changed my Instagram handle to I Love Quiffs, so you
Speaker 1: can follow me there and then you can all I'm
Speaker 1: just getting disgusting. It is so gross my Instagram I
Speaker 1: hate you. My instagram is at I hate you so much,
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