1 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: Ah beat Force. If it doesn't work, you're just not 2 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: using enough. You're listening to Software a Gradio Special Operations, 3 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Military news and straight talk with the guys and the 4 00:00:28,160 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: community softwarep Radio on Time on Target. This is actually 5 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: an interesting episode because of the fact that we just 6 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: had our yearly We're going to make these quarterly even 7 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: basically that's what was said. But who said that. I 8 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: think Brandon said, right, I didn't. I didn't catch it 9 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: was mentioned. It was mentioned that something. Sean Spoons was like, yeah, 10 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: we need to have these like every quarter No, no, no, 11 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: we should have him every week. So our I don't know, 12 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: it's several times a year meeting that we have for 13 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: Hurricane Group, and everybody has met here in New York City, 14 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: and Nick Hoffman was in town just like all of 15 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: the rest of the I need more power point. So 16 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: I guess the big announcement in terms of for you, 17 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: Nick is that your duties have increased here and you're 18 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: gonna be a bigger presence at the site and Hurricane 19 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: it large. Yeah, so just the overall direction of the 20 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: editorial staff, UM will be helping to make sure that 21 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: we're all running the same direction. UM. That one thing 22 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: I did want to address with this change is me 23 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: being the All Sites editor in chief, is to make 24 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: sure that it's clear that Jack Murphy is still the 25 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: lead man Wrap. I know, uh, not to get tuned 26 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: the weeds with it, but we did make an announcement 27 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: UM through the site recently, and I just wanted to 28 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: make sure that everyone is aware that his experience is 29 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: still being relied on to to lead our team. I'm 30 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: going to be running into the news site and Nick 31 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: will be overall, you know, in charge of the family, 32 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: the umbrella of of Hurricane media websites. We've got We've 33 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: got editors at each of our four sights for Fighter Sweep, News, Wrap, Bloat, 34 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: out Room, and Special Operations dot Com and UM, I'm 35 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: basically tasked with taking what's coming down from the operations team, 36 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: transmitting that down to the editors, and then taking everything 37 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: back from the editors up at the flagpole. So UM, 38 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: basically nothing changes in terms of the content that we're delivering. 39 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: The writing staff that we have, We're still were going 40 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: to look to expand that and keep hitting the topics 41 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: that were currently involved with and hopefully have some more 42 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: emphasis on breaking news and in depth analysis. UM, we're 43 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: we've added one new writer to the team recently. I 44 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: shouldn't say that he's I shouldn't say that he's new. 45 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: He we've brought back a an awesome writer j from 46 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: the UK. Yeah, Jamie. UM. I actually had lunch with 47 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: Jamie and his old lady on down on Wall Street 48 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. He was in town, just visiting. 49 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: And Jamie is an interesting cat. I met Jamie in 50 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: Syria in when I was in the country extra judicious Lee. 51 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: I guess you could say we all while we all 52 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: were UM and Jamie was over there with the YPG 53 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: and I met him and some of the other guys 54 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: who this audience are probably familiar with. Josh Bell was 55 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: over there. Uh, Jordan Mattson was over there. You know. 56 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: I ran into all of these guys. Buck Clay was 57 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: over there. UM. Cross paths with a lot of these 58 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: dudes while I was over there, UM and Jamie was 59 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: one of them. UM and uh. Later down the line, 60 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: Uh he came to work with US. UM. I sent 61 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: Jamie to Somalia. He did some reporting from there. Uh. 62 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: He did some reporting from Ukraine for US. He did 63 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: reporting um after UM some terrorist attacks he went to Paris, 64 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: he went to Brussels, did some reporting there from for us. 65 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: So I mean he's kind of an old hand with 66 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: with the website and UM he had been doing some 67 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: security contracting dan in Bossra, doing like executive not executive protection, 68 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: let's just say mobile protection for UM companies down down 69 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: in Bostra. Um. He's back home now, approached me, you 70 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: know when we had lunch, asked if if we were 71 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: looking for anyone, if you could come back and write 72 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: for us. And it's good timing. So yeah, I mean 73 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: turns out that we need his expertise with the Ukraine, 74 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: with Africa because you know, things aren't slowing down in 75 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: in Africa. Um, just his his areas of expertise are 76 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: needed on our staff. So it was perfect timing and 77 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: glad to have him back. Yeah. Yeah, he brings a 78 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: depth of experience with him. Um, it's a good guy. 79 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: He's from Scotland. So uh, we'll have to get him 80 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: on the podcast sometimes. No, we have had him on 81 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: the podcast. Actually yeah, it's just he has that he 82 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: has that thick accent. Um. But it's okay, Well I 83 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: thought it was British, but I guess I'm wrong. And 84 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,119 Speaker 1: I know he's from Scotland. Okay, yeah, I was thinking 85 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: British as well, but you would. He can he can 86 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: correct me. Um and coming like smash a beer bottle 87 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: over the back of my head if I'm wrong. But 88 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he's Scottish. But it clears up some 89 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: things because with the name change, which is not so 90 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: recent at this point, I mean, people know that the 91 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: site is news rep that the radio show is still 92 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: Software Up Radio. But we're not going to stop covering 93 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: special operations news. When it's important, we'll get to it. 94 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: We're just at we're expanding that into some financial stuff, 95 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: into other fields, which we've been doing for a while, 96 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: but it was just overdue that we expand. I mean, 97 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: we've been reporting on like geopolitical stuff. I mean we've 98 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: published all stuff about private military companies, all sorts of 99 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: things in the national defense, realm uh, domestic security, you know, 100 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: international politics. I mean we we we when we were 101 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: Software Up, we were posting all kinds of different stuff, 102 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: writing all kinds of different stuff. So I mean, I 103 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: think the name change just reflects what we were already doing. 104 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: And um, and it doesn't pigeonhole us into being merely 105 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,799 Speaker 1: a special Operations vet bro website we're talking about today, 106 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: and it's true. I think you mentioned it, and I 107 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: definitely have experienced as well. Like some of the people 108 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: who came in read soft wap really believed it was 109 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: a dot gov website. They thought it was like an 110 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: appendage of Special Operations Command. We thought that they had 111 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: to have been a veteran themselves to be able to 112 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: access the community like that. So I'd even have come 113 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: people come to me and be like Jack, why you 114 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: you know you can't use four letter words like that. 115 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: That's not appropriate for a government site like well, hold on, buddy, 116 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: this is a privately owned commercial website and there's never 117 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: any intention to deceive people. We were always totally out 118 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: front about who we are and what we do, but 119 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: that name alone soft reap actually did confuse some people. Yeah. So, 120 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: and to address some of the concerns that we've had 121 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: from some of our fans that have been with us, 122 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: for some of our readers that have been with us 123 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: for years, um, you know, just just a reader rate. 124 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: We're not getting away from reporting on special operations news 125 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: when it's appropriate, but we're just we're expanding our horizon 126 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: and um, we're breaking away from some of the the 127 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: petty things that come along with the military and reporting. 128 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: For sure. We're trying to become a little bit more 129 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: mainstream in that we're taking a more professional approach. We're 130 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: not just a blog anymore. We're at a proper news site. 131 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: And um, you know it's not it's not anymore. I 132 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: mean a Navy Seals guide to gardening not necessary, ten 133 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: fast facts about why Special Forces is the best, not 134 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: really needed anymore. And restaurants of every Navy Seal. Yeah, 135 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: the the heaty days of ISIS beheading videos are behind us. 136 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: It's not It's not like we have to evolve and 137 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: grow up a little bit here. Yeah. And the writing staff, 138 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 1: we we've had some changes for various reasons. Um, and 139 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: to address that as well, just that they're There are 140 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: certain times when it's not appropriate to discuss publicly why 141 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: a writer's left. Um. Sometimes it's it's personal reasons, whether 142 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: it's their health, family issues. Truth be told, some writers 143 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: get burnt out on writing that that happened quite a bit. 144 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: It's it's it's a grind. So just because a fan 145 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: favorite writer has left as an necessarily indicate that there's 146 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: a problem. So they're just not writing as much at 147 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: the moment because these guys, a lot of them have 148 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: day jobs. Um, they're off doing their thing. And also 149 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: they're they're not um they'll take this as a as 150 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: a slide against anyone, but they're not uh necessarily professional writers. 151 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: We find people who are veterans and have real life experience, 152 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: and they right part time or they right on the side. 153 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: And we've got we've got writers on our staff that 154 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: it is their full time job and they produce dozens 155 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: of articles a week. And in Stavros is another writer 156 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: that that has that high volume. And not everyone is 157 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: built for that. So to say that a freelance writer 158 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: that may be a good writer, um, to say that 159 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: he can't support himself on that, uh the salary that 160 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: he's getting to write a few articles a week is 161 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: is acceptable to me. I mean for for some of 162 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: our readers that may be upset that a writer's left 163 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: because he can't quote unquote make a living off of this. 164 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: If he were capable of writing more articles and and 165 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: maybe supporting that a little bit more than it would 166 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: be possible, but it's it's not always financially feasible for 167 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: us to to pay someone to quit their day job 168 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: when they're only able to write a couple of articles 169 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: a week, right, So, I mean that's just honest true. 170 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to make ninety thousand dollars 171 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: or a hundred thousand dollars a year getting paid to 172 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: write very little material, I mean you need to be 173 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: like a rock star. You need to be like, you know, 174 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: a well established journalist working for like the New York 175 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: or The Atlantic or something that there aren't too many 176 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: of those people nowadays. Yeah, so it's been difficult for 177 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: I've been I've tried to address some of the concerns 178 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: through chat or chat room on the site and emails even, 179 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: but it's difficult to articulate things the right way through texts. 180 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: I just wanted to address a little bit of that 181 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: on here to let the readers know that we um 182 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: we want to keep as many writers as we can, 183 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: but there are a lot of reasons why they come 184 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: and go. I feel like a great deal of our audience. 185 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: Nick remembers you from coming on the podcast, uh probably 186 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: about a year ago giving us updates on Marine Marine 187 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:07,359 Speaker 1: Corps Major Fred Galvin. Because you're a Uh, your marine yourself, 188 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: and you are tied into that Morrisaw community. Just through 189 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: Fred Galvin knowing him, people might be wondering, what's the 190 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: update on that and how is his life going having 191 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: to live with what happened and now people knowing that 192 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: these guys were innocent. Sure, so it's actually really great 193 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: to hear that he has a I won't get into 194 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: the details of his job, but he's he's got a 195 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: great job. Um. He was able to sell his business 196 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: that he had. It was it was a lot on 197 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: him to have the weight of that business on his 198 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: shoulders alone, So he was able to sell that. He's 199 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: got a great job. UM. So he he is. UM 200 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: still not done fighting for his marines. Um. He's still 201 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: in regular contact with Congressman Walter Jones. UM still has 202 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: a lot of things going on behind the scenes to 203 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: try to get the insignia, the Raider insignia awarded to 204 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: those marines because due to some technicalities with mar Admunds 205 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: and some administrative processes, they are technically not eligible even 206 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: though they're they're the playing holders for Marine raiders. I mean, 207 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: even I understand the Marine Corps, they love their rules. Um, 208 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: but in this case. It is if anything is as 209 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: simple of good faith, just give these guys the badge 210 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: and yeah. It's like, how guys, guys who are warps 211 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: in Vietnam. I mean, the Ranger Association has deemed that, 212 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: you know, the Worps became Ranger companies later on in 213 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: the war, but the Ranger Association in the U. S. 214 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: Military has deemed anyone who served in the Worps this 215 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: is like the predecessor to the Rangers. So you know, 216 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: you're you're part of the family. Yeah, so it's more. Um. 217 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: The Marine Corps came out with a it is technically 218 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: an exoneration, um, but it wasn't really as in depth 219 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: as they could have gone with it. That's the last 220 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: that I've reported on it was that the Marine Corps 221 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: finally took time to acknowledge this formally and publicly. UM. 222 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: But they've they I it's very evident that the Marine 223 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: Corps still just wants this all to go away. UM. 224 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: So on a personal level, it's been really neat to 225 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: have met some of the guys. Aside from Fred, I've 226 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 1: met a few of the guys that were UM with 227 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: Fox Company, and UM, I've met one other in person 228 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: but I've talked to a few, um outside of interviewing 229 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: for the articles that I worked on, so that's been 230 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 1: really neat. I actually had a chance to have some 231 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: food with one of the guys and his wife. UM, 232 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: and truthful, I didn't even I heard about this guy 233 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: through a mutual friend and it wasn't until I was 234 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: having food with these this couple that they told me 235 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: who they were. It was more of just the we 236 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: knew this, we knew a person um that put us 237 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: in touch essentially, and um, it just worked out that 238 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: they were going to be coming through town and I 239 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: met up with him and we were eating food when 240 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: I found out that that's who he was. So I 241 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: got to hear the wife's perspective on what it was like, 242 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: which was a really uh you know, kind of eye 243 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: opening Like I I could only imagine what she had 244 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: to go through, but to hear her say it was 245 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: pretty um, it was pretty powerful. So UM it was amazing. Uh. 246 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: You know, we I think we interviewed Fred twice, We 247 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: had you on several times. You wrote a series of 248 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: articles about it, and Uh, as I told Fred, I 249 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,359 Speaker 1: was I was one of those guys in special operations 250 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: at the time when it happened, and I was one 251 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: of those guys. I heard the rumors through the grapevine 252 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: about how the first Marstock deployment they get sent to 253 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: Afghanistan and uh there you know, the the story is 254 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: basically that they were door gunn and villagers type ship 255 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: that they just went buck wild and just started lightening 256 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: everyone up. And and then you hear and you see, uh, 257 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: you know, there's documents and testimony and everything else now 258 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: and you hear it also from Fred himself. I mean 259 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: the reality of what happened was so different in reading 260 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: the actual declassified documents that I included in the series 261 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: that I worked on, which other other news outlets had avoided. 262 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: Some didn't have access early on, but even when it 263 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: became available, they didn't want to go too deep into Yeah, 264 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: I remember that. And if you read the statements from 265 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: some of the officers involved, um, I mean it was 266 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: reckless some of the decisions that they made and how 267 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: they handled that case. There there were for those that 268 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: haven't ready to go back and do a search on 269 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: news right for MARSK Fox Company or MARSK seven and 270 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: it's a it's worth the read. I could link to 271 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: it on this episode. The question I have that remains 272 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: and I think Fred has um, I think he can speculate, 273 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: he probably has some intuition as to the reason. But 274 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: the big question to me is the reason why why 275 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: did the Marine Corps in the army set out to 276 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: crucify these guys? And there's an agenda? Well if and 277 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: again I touched on it in my series, but if 278 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: you look back before Marsock was officially stood up, um, 279 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: Donald Rumsfeld had ordered a marine special operations unit to 280 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: be stood up. Um. It was slow rolled in, you know, 281 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: not to get too deep into it, but basically, um, 282 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: there's that one was stood up, and that that was 283 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: the response to that. But it was and they were. 284 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: They did an amazing job, very successful, um in what 285 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: they did. But then it was basically just a half 286 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: hearted effort to meet the request from the Secretary of Defense. 287 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: So it was it wasn't institutionalized in the marine. So 288 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: so even at the early stage, it was evident that 289 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: there was a resistance to it because there's a whole 290 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: mindset that all marines are special. Every marine's a rifleman, 291 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: like you know, whether your reconnaissance or whatever else, you're 292 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: you're no more special than the cook and you know 293 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: that's just not true, first off of my own personal opinion, 294 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: but the Marine Corps never got away from that, and 295 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: there was just a resistance to it. And then you 296 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: get into the whole aspect of the financial side of 297 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: things within so calm and that whole battle that there 298 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: there were just a lot of there are a lot 299 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: of factors that played into that. But um, but yeah, 300 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: it's it's been as difficult as that series was. It's 301 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: it's definitely the most rewarding thing that I've worked on 302 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: and having to see how it affected real people. Um. 303 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,959 Speaker 1: We had Justin Carroll on the podcast recently, Um, former 304 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: MARSK operator. Great, great guy, and I really support what 305 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: he's doing with his privacy and security and some of 306 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: his other opportunities that he's got going on. But it's 307 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: been good to see him and others, uh succeed in 308 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,239 Speaker 1: spite of that. Like some of those guys have had 309 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: their struggles, but they're Um, I think what we were 310 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: able to do is helped them move past a lot 311 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, No, that's a it's a good feeling 312 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: and I'm glad that you know, we could lend our 313 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: platform to you know what your your work, and also 314 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: to fred Um. You know it's amazing. You know, sometimes 315 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: you don't realize when you write these things. You know, 316 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: you work really hard on something you publish it. Um. 317 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: But like in my case, I've had UM the daughters 318 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: of Special Forces soldiers I've written about come to me 319 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: like you like, just it means the world to them 320 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: to hear these stories about their dad and the things 321 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: they did, and uh, they're just like overwhelmed with it. 322 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: I had one guy UM contact me and it was 323 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: I wrote about how his mother was a UM assigned 324 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: to it Special Forces, to Blue Light Special Forces counter 325 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: Terrorism Unit and she was I think the first and 326 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: only woman actually on an O d A and she's 327 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 1: doing in an intelligence role. And he's like, you know, 328 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: my mom never really talked about what she did in 329 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: the army. And I found out really from reading your article. 330 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: And he's like and he's like, I printed it out 331 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: and I gave it to her and it was like 332 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: the best Mother's Day president ever. He was just so 333 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: happy to learn about his mom. Um. Yeah, yeah, it's meaningful, 334 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: you know, it means something to people. And in this case, 335 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: these Marines have been through put through the ringer, you know. 336 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: So for them to receive some kind of exoneration, I 337 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: know that means a lot to them. It also shows 338 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: the real world impact of you writing this series. I 339 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: I think that it sure had an impact on this 340 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: actually happening and these guys getting resonerated. Yeah. The the 341 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: That's the one thing that I've I've always been very 342 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: certain to give credit to the company for is that 343 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: you know, Jack, you and Brandon at the time, had 344 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: given me a green light to do this, and you understood, 345 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: um from you know, at whatever level, you all understood 346 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: the implications of putting this information out there. Um, because 347 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: other outlets had shied away from getting down into the 348 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: nitty gritty details. And I had thought, up until the 349 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: time that I I communicated with you, I had thought that, yeah, 350 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,959 Speaker 1: it's true there were door gun in villagers. Yeah, I 351 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: believe that myself, UM, and I would I would not 352 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: have I never said it here because I didn't have 353 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: any facts. And thank god, I you know, I didn't 354 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: participate in spreading the rumors. But um, I just I 355 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: just mentioned that to say how pervasive this belief was. Um. So, 356 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: I mean it was an illuminating, um experience for me 357 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: just to let you you know, have you write that article. Yeah, 358 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: there's something to say for that because uh and talking 359 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: to these guys, meeting a few of them in person, 360 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: and like I said, um, you realize that they're very 361 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: intelligent people. They're not. They're not. Whether they were a 362 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: little younger at the time, obviously they were. They weren't 363 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: cowboys or um, you know, childish marines out there. I 364 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: mean that they were. They were experienced, combat hardened veterans 365 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: that I mean, they all came from forced recon correct. Yes, 366 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: they were all pulled directly from the reconnaissance community. And 367 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: um again just not only the documentation that I had 368 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: to back up the facts of the case, but in 369 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: meeting with these people, UM, you just realized very very 370 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: early on that there they're they're not what they were 371 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: painted to be. So um yeah, it's there. There hopefully 372 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: will be some new updates to that case as time 373 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: goes on. It's you know, it was over ten years 374 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: ago when the incident happened. I think eleven years and 375 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: five two thousand seven is when the actual ambush happened. 376 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: In the what of inquiry happened about a year later 377 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: because I was in the Q course when I heard 378 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: about it. Got yeah, So yeah, it's things don't always 379 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: move too quickly, but we've made quite a bit of 380 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: progress and hopefully there's gonna be more to that story. Um, 381 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: Like I said, anybody that knows Fred Galvin, if you're 382 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: listening to this, you can attest to that, the fact 383 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: that he's not a quitter, he doesn't forget things, so 384 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: he's he's a good man. And again glad to call 385 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: him a friend, and um, it's always nice to have 386 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: facts on your side. Yeah. Uh. Other updates to the site, 387 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: I know that today Actually, as we're recording this, we 388 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: just launched a load out Room app if you're an 389 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: iPhone user. I think Android is coming very soon. Chris 390 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: is amazing and has done like an incredible job launching 391 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: all these different apps and working on the sites and 392 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: the Create Club stuff. So that's gonna be really cool 393 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: to see. And then also there's a special promotion on 394 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: Create Club Slash the load out Room kind of a 395 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: joint thing that a lot of you listening listening are 396 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: gonna love, which is um, you could win excellent Precision 397 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: custom Elite six point five creed More rifle package, which 398 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: is valued at how much were we Yeah, it's a giveaway. 399 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: So just go to create Club dot us slash g 400 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: a W and you can check that out. I think 401 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: so many people in this audience are average shooters are 402 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: and are gonna be all over that. And if you aren't, 403 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: you know somebody that it is. Yeah, I mean we 404 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: just did. This was two days of our you know, 405 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: annual strategic meetings. Yeah. I'll be the first to admit, 406 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: and you guys will see this as a shorter episode, 407 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,719 Speaker 1: like I am a little burnt down. Yeah, but we 408 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: uh talked about health, a lot of things, hell of 409 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: a lot of ideas batted around. Um, that's some pretty 410 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: cool stuff. I don't want to make like announce a 411 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,959 Speaker 1: bunch of stuff that you know, may or may not 412 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: happen right now, but I think we talked about a 413 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: lot of things about optimizing from a business perspective, better 414 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: customer experiences, UM, for fans that they create club, look 415 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: for big improvements down the line, um, whether it's the 416 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: actual products in the box, whether it's customer service, collaborations 417 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: with different companies that are big in the industry, and 418 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: I uh, you know, there's no uh. I think we 419 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: already talked about kind of the direction with news rap 420 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: and where we're going with that, um. But beyond that, 421 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: as I was saying on the meeting today, I think 422 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: it's is going to be interesting because well, first off, 423 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: we're re establishing our own identity as a as a 424 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: news website. UM. At the same time, I think the 425 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: current trend right now is that, you know, our president 426 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: is going to continue to dominate the news cycle for 427 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: the next two years. What you mean, He's not going 428 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: to be impeached or resign like MSNBC. Even if he 429 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: is impeached, he's still going to be very much in 430 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: the news cycle. You know, he has access to Twitter, 431 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: he will be in the news. Yeah, I don't I 432 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think he's gonna get impeached, but anyway, 433 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: the pipe dream. But beyond beyond that, I think, you know, 434 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: he's in the news cycle every day, and I think 435 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: the average citizen John Q public is just getting exhausted 436 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: and burned out on the news cycle. So it's a 437 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: question of where are we going to fit in and 438 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: that in this the current media environment. And I mean 439 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: it's no secret that journalism writ large is going through 440 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: a very tumultuous period right now. UM, so it's gonna 441 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: be uh, it's gonna be a hell of a ride, 442 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: I can say that much. Yeah, we we have our 443 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: work cut out for us and the goals that we 444 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: have in twenty nineteen, but we've got a plan to 445 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: get there. Um and then again with with our other sites, 446 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: with us all going in the right direction and working 447 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: together with Alex Haulings taken over at Fighter Sweet but 448 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if you all have announced that on 449 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: the show's that's a big one. Yeah, just quickly with that. 450 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: So that site had been essentially left dormant for a 451 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: few months as we had transitioned and it just wasn't 452 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: wasn't kept up with um, So we've moved Alex Haulings 453 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: into that role. For those of you familiar with this 454 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: work at news Rep, he's still going to be doing that, 455 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: that's his primary focus, but he's also added the Fighter 456 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: Sweep website to his plate. So for any aviation fans 457 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: out there, he's got a lot of really great content. 458 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is passionate about aviation, so it 459 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: really shines through in his work. So be sure to 460 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: check that out and you are all saying we should 461 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: probably mention for those going to Shock show, are we 462 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: going to have any presenci shot show? There should be 463 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: a party there. I can confirm that there will be 464 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be I can't give details on this. 465 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: It'll be a little different though than past parties, and 466 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: that you know, to be honest, people would go to 467 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: past parties. They'd beat Jack, myself, a lot of the writers. 468 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: This will be scaled down in terms of you know 469 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: who will be there, correct, But I will tell you 470 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: that it will be scaled up. And then in terms 471 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: of the venue, it's I've only seen things like this 472 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 1: on MTV cribs or something when I was a teenager. 473 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's gonna be amazing. So yeah, yes, 474 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: so it'll be a little bit different. I think what 475 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: we did previously was more of a low key meeting 476 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: greed and tomorrow night is our Christmas party, yes, which 477 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be a little teaser for 478 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: these for those of us fortunate enough to attend Tomorrow Night, 479 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: It's going to be a taste of what's gonna happen 480 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: in Vegas. It does fall under the ball in a 481 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: mansion and popping bottles with models, but they think Drake's 482 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: brother was there smoking weed when they were doing the 483 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: walk there yesterday or something like, uh, yeah, it's gonna 484 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: be Uh, it's gonna be interesting. I heard something about 485 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: a mermaid in a pool and uh, I said, I 486 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: made the mistake of saying that to my wife, and 487 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 1: my daughter's like, there's a barbade. I want to say 488 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: the barbad. You don't want to see that. No, no, 489 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: little girl, I'll take a picture for you and uh 490 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: and and show it to you maybe. And the only 491 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: update with the podcast itself, everything is gonna go the 492 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: way it's been going. We've been having incredible guests on 493 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: and really diverse backgrounds. We're firing Ian, but every other 494 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: than that, everything remains the same. Significant change. Yeah, no, 495 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're we're scrapping video for now. Uh. We 496 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: might revisit it at some point, but the reason being, uh, 497 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: you know, there are companies out there who are doing 498 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: like big things in terms of video production, multiple camera 499 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: angles and stuff, and and right now we're just budgeting differently, 500 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: you know, according to other shows. I mean it's just well, 501 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: yes that we don't have the all the equipment here 502 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: set up to do, uh, you know, something that's high quality, 503 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: and to be honest, nobody's watching it. So I wouldn't 504 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: say nobody. There's several thousand you guys watching, but the 505 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: vast majority, yeah, the vast majority of you guys hearing this. 506 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: You know you listen on Apple podcast, on Spotify, on 507 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: sounds a big discrepancy. I mean, as far as the 508 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: people who listen to the podcast, it's like, what fifty 509 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: thousand people a month? Yeah, between huge no a week 510 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: a week fifty and a hundred thousand a week a week? 511 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: Holy shit. Yeah, and that's and what did you say, 512 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: one point six million? Well on top of that, I 513 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: don't you know, all these numbers are like on top 514 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: of the out we have the people listening on the 515 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: apps that's way more than that. Yeah, per year, that's 516 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: one point six we're listening just on SoundCloud, you know, 517 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: Apple podcasts, it's probably double that because and then you 518 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 1: have to add that the app the few people who 519 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: are listening on YouTube. Yeah, but by comparison to those numbers, 520 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: and if you look at our YouTube videos, I mean 521 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: it's like a hundred and fifty views, a hundred and 522 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: seventy views, and I'll be the first to day. It's 523 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: because the video is not very exciting, right, it's not 524 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: very dynamic. I think most people listen to this podcast 525 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: while they're like running on the treadmill or something like 526 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: driving or dri driving, commuting to work a lot, you know, 527 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: like you said, truckers also E M T s listen 528 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: to this stuff as they're driving around. Yeah, so the 529 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: video is you know, like I said, it's on a 530 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,479 Speaker 1: hiatus because in the future, maybe we'll scale up and 531 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: we'll you know, get some more cameras in here and 532 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: and make it look a little bit more professional. And 533 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: if we do, that'd be great. Um. But I guess 534 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: that's that's it in terms of updates that we could 535 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: give to you guys. Um, but subscribe to Great Club 536 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of stuff on the rise and uh, 537 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: all different types of custom products and everybody today was 538 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: like throwing out a lot of ideas that we're going 539 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: to be doing in the future and are you know, 540 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: people are vocal about what they want to see. So 541 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: it's a club fore men by men and you can 542 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: check that at Create Club dot Us. Once again, that's 543 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: Create Club dot Us. And we still have the spec 544 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: ops Channel up for only four nine a month. If 545 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: you want to watch our shows like Training Sell following 546 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: former Special Operations Forces as they participate in the most 547 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: advanced training in the country, everything from shooting schools, defensive driving, 548 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: jungle and winter warfare, climbing, and a whole lot more. 549 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: You can check that out as well as um the 550 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: inside the team rooms at spec ops channel dot com 551 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: spec ops channel dot com only four month. Chris did 552 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: the spec ops channel app as well, which you could 553 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: check out. And uh, I guess that's about it. This 554 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: is a shorter episode. This is like the company Update episode. UM, 555 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: it might not be. Uh, this is like for the 556 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: die hards. I feel like, you know, the people who 557 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: just listened because they're here. Yeah, but but I think 558 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: our audience likes to know what's going on at large 559 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: at the company h for sure. We also have Brandon's podcast, 560 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,719 Speaker 1: The Power of Thought has relaunched and we have new 561 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: episodes coming up on their UM my friend John Burns, 562 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: who did the theme song for this show, is doing 563 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: a theme song for his show. John is awesome, and 564 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna get like all new imaging for that and 565 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: it's A. Brandon's podcast is very different. It's more entrepreneurial 566 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: and right now. The theme of the podcast is freedom 567 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: is the new rich. So these are people who are 568 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: digital nomads, living life in their own terms all over 569 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: the globe and who are able to basically do whatever 570 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: whatever their passion is and all they need is a 571 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: good WiFi connection in a laptop and they they're able 572 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: to make ship happen. So I think it's cool if 573 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: that's if that's something that you hope to uh participate 574 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: in and get out of your regular nine to five 575 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: job and do something you love. So yeah, at the 576 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: end of my my memoir, I mentioned that, you know, 577 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: as I sit here and finished writing this book, I'm 578 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: sitting in a square in Sardinia watching my daughter swim 579 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: in the ocean. I mean, that's great. There's there's some 580 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: pricks to being a writer. Yeah, yeah, there really is. 581 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: I just left a job that the only job that 582 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: I had known after leaving the military um of six 583 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: and a half years, to do this full time and 584 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: having the benefit of being able to go meet my 585 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: kids for lunch at school if I feel like it, 586 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: or be able to shaperway in one of their field trips. 587 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: It's there. There are little things that you really can't 588 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: put a price tag on. So it's been it's been good, 589 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: and I'm glad that Brandon is helping to spread the 590 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: gospel as far as that lifestyle, because it's it's changed 591 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: my life. I don't get that like Sunday night anxiety 592 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: anymore because Monday is actually my least busy day. It's 593 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: the opposite for me. But yeah, my day is usually 594 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: the day where, um, you know, booking some guests, if 595 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: there's anyone we want to get on in the horizon. 596 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: But like I don't have anything to record, I don't 597 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: have any shows to edit a day. Uh so it's 598 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: a it's not a full work day for me the 599 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,959 Speaker 1: rest of the week. Yeah you know. Yeah on Monday, 600 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm sitting literally in my pajamas at home, writing on 601 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: my computer. You know. So that's how, that's how all 602 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: of you Jack Murphrey fans have pictured him for years 603 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: and it's true and it's all it's all true, Um, 604 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: I guess saw. On a final note, I'll tease out 605 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: what we have coming up next week because these are 606 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: pre recorded their older material because I'll be away, Um, 607 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: but it's good stuff. I decided not to do Bestus 608 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: even though those get a great response. Um, this is 609 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: stuff that a lot several of you have not heard. 610 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: So too Wednesday, you're gonna hear the episode that Brandon 611 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: did for Power of Thought with Captain Jerry Yelling. Jerry 612 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: Yelling flew the Final Combat make Sure over Japan UM 613 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: for the Army Air Forces as it was called at 614 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: the time, for a short period during World War Two. Uh. 615 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: And then the interesting story is really that his son 616 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: later lived in Japan, met a girl in Japan and 617 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: married a row from Japan, and you know, Jerry Yelling 618 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: a little bit apprehensive about it, and he was wondering, well, 619 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: how do her parents feel about this with my background? 620 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: And apparently apparently her parents said, wait, this is like 621 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: a guy who flew the final combat mission over here. 622 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: Uh And and the father said to the daughter, I 623 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: want that man's you know, son in our gene pool, 624 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: because that guy's got to be a badass. Yeah, I 625 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: think in uh in Japan that weren't a certain amount 626 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: of respect because it's like, what you defeated us in combat? Yeah, 627 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: that's what it sounds like, which wasn't easy. I mean, 628 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: the Japanese were pretty tenacious. Yeah, and then he he 629 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: spoke about so Jerry Ollen is also Jewish, and he 630 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: spoke about in the episode that he went to I 631 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: believe it was a high doctor who was um An 632 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: Arab Palestinian, and he said, like I went in there 633 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: with my preconceived notions of you know who these people are, 634 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: and it turned out that this guy was like a 635 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: huge history buff and like highly respected what I did 636 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: during World War Two, and like I grew great relationship 637 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: with this guy, and you know, it's it is a 638 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: positive message of like we are all human and uh 639 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,919 Speaker 1: that the really unfortunate thing that happened was a couple 640 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: of months after that interview he passed away. And I 641 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: think that was likely the final interview of Jerry Yellen's life. 642 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: So I think it's just so cool that we get 643 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 1: to document those stories. And the fact is UM Software 644 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 1: Radio just because of how long it's been in other factors, 645 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: it has a bigger listener base than Brandon's podcast. So 646 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 1: a lot of you guys have never heard that interview. 647 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 1: So that's what you're gonna hear on Wednesday. And then 648 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: on Friday we did an interview with c J Ramon 649 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: a while back, and we split it up into two. 650 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 1: Half the interview we did on an episode of Software 651 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: Radio with James Powell, and then half of it we 652 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,720 Speaker 1: did for Power Thought. I figured, why not piece together, 653 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: give you guys the full interview in its full context. 654 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: And uh yeah, CJ talking about replacing did Ramon and 655 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: the Ramons and getting like bottles of piss thrown at 656 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: him by like crazy bug rockers and how he like 657 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: persevered through that and you know, just whe through it 658 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 1: with no fear and he's just an all around great guy. 659 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: I mean, former marine. And he doesn't mention it. I 660 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: don't think during the interview. I listened to it, so no, 661 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't mention it at all. But if there's something 662 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: that really tells you about what type of guy c 663 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: J is, when Jason new Stead quit METALCA and you 664 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: might have seen in Some kind of Monster, the documentary 665 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: on Matauka, they were auditioning bass players prior to that, 666 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: they tapped CJ and they were like, we want you 667 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: to be the bass player. And I think just a 668 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: few months or maybe a year before that, c J 669 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: had a kid who was diagnosed with autism and he 670 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: turned down Metallica, was like, I have a special needs 671 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: kid at home and that's my priority and like that 672 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: that shows that you're an honorable uh guy who like 673 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 1: has a true love of family that you're gonna Yeah, 674 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure people would say you're an idiot you turned 675 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: down being a Metallica. They're like the biggest band in 676 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: the world. But it's just great, dude, So you'll get 677 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: you'll be able to hear that on Wednesday. Um, and 678 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: that's it. We're off to go to a great restaurant 679 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: that I've never been to, Boudican and lit all over 680 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: an hour, so I need to go get a beer, 681 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: like right now. Yeah, it's it's been you guys, got understand. 682 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 1: It's been like two days of eight hour talks of 683 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: everybody thrown around their ideas, information, good idea, the very Yeah. 684 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: It's it's productive, but you do get burnt out. I'm 685 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: not used to like sitting down for eight hours. None 686 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: of us are, Yeah, used to talking to somebody in 687 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: person for like an hour day if that. Yeah, So 688 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: enjoy guys, and once again check out that promotion which 689 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: is great club dot us slash e g a w 690 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: uh if you're interested in a sniper rifle package, which 691 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: is pretty damn sweet. And uh, that's it. SOFTWAREP radio 692 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: dot Com, Instagram and Twitter at SOFTWAREP Radio. Anything else 693 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: for promoting that I'm forgetting. I mean, there's a lot 694 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 1: of stuff we're forgetting. I mean, I on my mind 695 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: is kind of burnt right now, but I mean we 696 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,439 Speaker 1: hit that, We hit the high points. Yeah, we we've 697 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,919 Speaker 1: got the more urgent stuff. There's lots that I want 698 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: to say. I think right now it I might get 699 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 1: in trouble if I we we can. Yeah, we can 700 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: circle back around on all that stuff as a situation 701 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: warrants it. Yeah, and more writers on the podcast Coming up, 702 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: Starbroos is going to make his first appearance in studio, 703 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: I believe, So that'll be exciting and uh, all bunch 704 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: of different guys from great backgrounds, so awesome. You've been 705 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: listening to Self rep Radio. New episodes up every Wednesday 706 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: and Friday. Follow the show on Instagram and Twitter at 707 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: self rep Radio.