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Speaker 1: And welcome to Thursdays. And they shown a big blue

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Speaker 1: kick off line here on giants dot Com. He has

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Speaker 1: pulled the Tino on Lance Meadow with you for the

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Speaker 1: next sixty minutes. Two zero one one three is the

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Speaker 1: telephone number. Hashtag Giants chat on Twitter. It has finally

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Speaker 1: arrived the teo. Yes got off, Yes this morning tonight. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you set for that game. You can tell the man

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Speaker 1: if you're as amped up as he is, but Impossiblely

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Speaker 1: try to make comparisons throughout the course of the program.

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Speaker 1: Will get to your phone calls, We'll get to your tweets.

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Speaker 1: So this is the first opportunity for this team to

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Speaker 1: go through practice, they're prepared for, they have a heads

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Speaker 1: up about. But Paul, this is the first opportunity. It's

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Speaker 1: in the regular season so that you can test yourself

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Speaker 1: and prepare yourself and also learned from stakes. Well, from

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Speaker 1: a philosophical perspective, coach Pat Shermer actually wants to see

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Speaker 1: offensively and defensively, because, let's face it, as he says,

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Speaker 1: you can only learn from your experiences and your mistakes.

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Speaker 1: And it's actually good, you know, from a coaching perspective,

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Speaker 1: to clean that stuff up. Well, and I also think

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Speaker 1: you want to see if a player makes a mistake, Paul,

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Speaker 1: how does that player bounce back to react to a mistake,

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Speaker 1: a drop pass, amiss the signment. I think it's more

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Speaker 1: important to see mentally where the player is under those circumstances,

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Speaker 1: as opposed to seeing a guy go out there grab

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Speaker 1: ten catches for hundred yards. Well, you know, they open

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Speaker 1: the preseason tonight against the Cleveland Browns here at MetLife Stadium,

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Speaker 1: seven o'clock kick off, by the way, and it's their

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Speaker 1: first chance now to go up against another jersey, another helmet,

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Speaker 1: teaching the guys through the practice sessions. Coach Shermer said,

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Speaker 1: when a guy makes a mistake, I immediately have myself

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Speaker 1: and they've been doing that throughout the course of training camp,

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Speaker 1: and everything I've heard about the young players on this

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Speaker 1: some of the players to watch, especially since it's the

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Speaker 1: given the rotations that they're gonna want to showcase this year.

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Speaker 1: think it's possible that James Betcher may want to rotate

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Speaker 1: has done nothing but impressed these coaches with his professionalism

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Speaker 1: That's a sign of consistency. His numbers haven't necessarily fluctuated.

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Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but there's not a great deal

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Speaker 1: I said, Romeo Acquia and Avery Moss, you know this

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Speaker 1: and how much work they need to get ready for

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Speaker 1: the regular season opener against Jacksonville. So he himself is

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Speaker 1: leaving some leeway there to make, you know, decisions about

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Speaker 1: individual players to where you know, he may just go

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Speaker 1: by field and decide, you know what, I don't think

433
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Speaker 1: I need to get this guy in the game. I

434
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Speaker 1: mean to think that every player follows the same exact

435
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Speaker 1: script is ridiculous because there's clearly there's veterans right now

436
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Speaker 1: that you say, okay, this is not their first rodeo,

437
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Speaker 1: this has maybe their eighth rodeo, their correct Well, that

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Speaker 1: was gonna be my point I rodeo. If you want

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Speaker 1: to take it that far, and you figure, okay, listen,

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Speaker 1: Eli goes in for a series or two, it's fine.

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Speaker 1: But there are some other veterans who may have been

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Speaker 1: heard in years past, or are young guys who, like

443
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Speaker 1: Avery Moss, barely played and you may want to see

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Speaker 1: a little bit more of them. Well, it's because of

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Speaker 1: the limited range I've I've felt all along, you'll see

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Speaker 1: a ton of David's web tonight. In my estimation, I

447
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Speaker 1: would not at all be surprised if he plays two

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Speaker 1: full quarters. I really wouldn't, because they need to see

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Speaker 1: him in game scenarios. Well, and here's a good comparison

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Speaker 1: to look at it. Granted, it's a new coaching staff

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Speaker 1: in a new scheme, but remember Gino Smith started the

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Speaker 1: first preseason game. Lester Eli didn't even play, and Gino

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Speaker 1: played in all the way I looked this up, Paul,

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Speaker 1: he played in deep into So now you know the

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Speaker 1: reason I bring that up is Davis Webb is now

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Speaker 1: Geno Smith this year in terms of the depth in effect.

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Speaker 1: So although they have not officially named him the number two,

458
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Speaker 1: which is pretty clear that that that position is hits correct,

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Speaker 1: and that's simply based on workload and correct practice correct,

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Speaker 1: that's obviously, and the way they've configured their draft as well, exactly.

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Speaker 1: So my point is, Okay, David's Webb coming in as

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Speaker 1: the number two to this game, I can see him

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Speaker 1: getting by far more reps than any other quarter. I

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Speaker 1: don't think there's any question there are four quarterbacks on

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Speaker 1: the roster. There is Kyle a Letto who has drafted

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Speaker 1: this year on Alex Tanny, but I still think they

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Speaker 1: probably want to see Davis Webb much more so than

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Speaker 1: any other quarterback. I would totally concur. Let's open up

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Speaker 1: the phone lines once again to zero three. Terrell's in Atlantic, Terrell,

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Speaker 1: what's happening? Hi, dude? Good? What do you got for us?

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Speaker 1: I got two questions. The first one is we Houston,

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Speaker 1: are we're gonna stay in the Texas everywhere? Back? And

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Speaker 1: the second one the left tackles in our division one

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Speaker 1: through four? Please you want us to rank the starting

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Speaker 1: left tackles in the NFC East. And the other question

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Speaker 1: was is the team going to stay in Texas between

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Speaker 1: the Dallas and the Texans game. I'll take that quickly. No,

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Speaker 1: as far as I'm as far as I know, there

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Speaker 1: are no plans to stay for the weekend Texas between

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Speaker 1: weeks two and three. Okay, and appreciate the phone call.

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Speaker 1: In terms of the starting left tackles, well, he's talking

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Speaker 1: about Solder, he's talking about Williams, he's talking about Smith,

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Speaker 1: and he's talking about who am I leaving off the Peters? Peters, Well,

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Speaker 1: all the injuries he's had sometimes it's easy to forget

485
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Speaker 1: him well, and he missed the good bulk of last

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Speaker 1: season went down. So you're talking about a division, first

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Speaker 1: of all, that has an established veteran at left tack

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Speaker 1: over all four teams, Soldier, Smith, Williams, and Peters. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about these guys are polished veterans. We're not

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Speaker 1: talking about anybody who's young and an unproven commodity. Is

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Speaker 1: it true. I think all three of the others besides

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Speaker 1: Solder have been to the Pro Bowl. Tyrand Smith, I know,

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Speaker 1: has been to the Pro Bowl. I would Peters, Peters,

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Speaker 1: I believe Williams has definitely been to them. I'll look

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Speaker 1: it up just to confirm again. Pro Bowl is a

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Speaker 1: very it's a it's a vague gauge because we all

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Speaker 1: know that that. You know, sometimes you'll get six guys

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Speaker 1: who bail out and all of a sudden, the seventh

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Speaker 1: guy gets to go to the Pro Bowl. I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: sure all three of those guys have gone. Solder has

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Speaker 1: never gone. Trent is a six time Pro bowler, Jason

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Speaker 1: Peters is a nine time Pro bowler. Just to give

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Speaker 1: you an idea, and then Tyron Smith. In terms of

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Speaker 1: how many times, he's probably gone about three or four.

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Speaker 1: In comparison, Tyron Smith has gone five, so he has

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Speaker 1: the least amount. But those two guys have been in

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Speaker 1: the league longer. Okay, So if you strictly want to

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Speaker 1: go off resume and forget about age and forget about injuries,

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Speaker 1: Soldiers played now eight years and only the one year

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Speaker 1: three years ago he played only four games because he

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Speaker 1: was banged up. Correct. Other than that, he has been

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Speaker 1: a work course at the position and a consistent presidence there.

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Speaker 1: So there's been years where the Patriots have not had

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Speaker 1: a stable offensive line, He's usually been the anchor. Yet

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Speaker 1: yet Peters has had significant injury problems over the course

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Speaker 1: of his career. Williams has had some significant injury troubles

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Speaker 1: as well. Tyron Smith not as Mutt, not as much,

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Speaker 1: but I think it. But Soldiers probably the healthiest of before.

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Speaker 1: I will give you that. But if you're gonna ask

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Speaker 1: me this question and all four are going in healthy,

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Speaker 1: I would rate them assuming full health for all four,

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Speaker 1: regardless of the track record. I think that's the fair

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Speaker 1: way to look at it. Personally, I would put Tyron

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Speaker 1: Smith number one. I think he is the best left

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Speaker 1: tackle of those four. You probably would have to agree

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Speaker 1: with that. I think he would be number one. I

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Speaker 1: would lean towards Trent Williams number two. I mean, that

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Speaker 1: guy has also been a very consistent anchor, and then

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Speaker 1: I'm inclined to agree with you on him too. To me,

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Speaker 1: then I think it really becomes a flip of the

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Speaker 1: coin Peterson. Peters has been beaten up and he's been

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Speaker 1: in the league longer than Soldier has as well. Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't know at this point in their careers. You

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Speaker 1: know that you would automatically say, well, based on Peter's resume,

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Speaker 1: certainly you'd pick him over Solder, But right now today,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I would well, especially since he's

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Speaker 1: coming off a significant Smith and Williams have been banged up.

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Speaker 1: They're not coming off of significant right now. That's why

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Speaker 1: if you want to go back and forth with Soldier

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Speaker 1: and Peters, I'll give you that. I don't think that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: But in my opinion, I think between the resume and

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Speaker 1: what they have produced season and season out, Tyrone Smith

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Speaker 1: and Trent Williams I would put ahead of Nate Soldier

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Speaker 1: at this point, and I don't think that's a stretch,

545
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Speaker 1: and I don't think that's crazy. That's that's and again

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Speaker 1: that's not a knock on Soldier because we all know

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Speaker 1: that Solder is a very capable and quality left tack well.

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Speaker 1: And I think also from just having this conversation, and

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Speaker 1: this is not a conversation that I actually even was

550
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Speaker 1: thinking about, I think it's a very good question and

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Speaker 1: appreciate your question. It just goes to show you now

552
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Speaker 1: that you look at other divisions, I mean the NFC East,

553
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Speaker 1: that it's unbelievable the experience at the left tackle position

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Speaker 1: compared to what other divisions are working with. Paul. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about Pro Bowl players, Well, you're talking about

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Speaker 1: veteran players, and you're talking about players with a great

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Speaker 1: deal of experience. Three of those teams have had those

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Speaker 1: kinds of guys at that spot, in fact, those specific

559
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Speaker 1: guys for several years. It's only the Giants who have

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Speaker 1: behind in getting that type of quality at the position.

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Speaker 1: They finally rectified it by opening up their wallets for Solders. Well,

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Speaker 1: and that's another reason, by the way, I think you

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Speaker 1: brought up an excellent point. It's another reason why I

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Speaker 1: would probably lean towards Peter's three Soldier four only because

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Speaker 1: those three other guys we know who they're playing next

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Speaker 1: to for the most part, we know the scheme. Whereas Soldier,

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Speaker 1: it's a new scheme. It's a new teammate to the

568
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Speaker 1: next right next to them, and it's a rookie, by

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Speaker 1: the way, playing next to him as well. So when

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Speaker 1: you take all that into consideration, there's a little bit

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Speaker 1: show me that you want to see with him as

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Speaker 1: opposed to the three other players. I'll tell you what,

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Speaker 1: two years, if not sooner, you'll be saying how Molly

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Speaker 1: Hernandez is the best left guard in this division and

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Speaker 1: that would not surprise me. Maybe in the conference and

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Speaker 1: maybe in the league. But like anything else, if we're

577
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Speaker 1: gonna be he needs time. If we're gonna be true

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Speaker 1: with ranking. The one thing I will say when it

579
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Speaker 1: comes to rankings, I don't believe in crowning players before

580
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Speaker 1: they actually get out there. Get out there and do it.

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Speaker 1: Show me, let's go. Let's add back to the phone

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Speaker 1: lines as we move along here on Big Blue Kick

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Speaker 1: goll Live. Zach is in Brooklyn. Note we lost Zach

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Speaker 1: all right? How about Brian in New York? Brian, what's happening? Hey, guys,

585
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: can't wait to watch the game tonight. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a good one. Absolutely. I was just wonderus, Um, I've

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Speaker 1: just seen that they signed a new safety like Brasil

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Speaker 1: from Mamouth University. Yeah. Um, like, I'd like to know

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Speaker 1: what that means. Do they not like their options across

590
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Speaker 1: from Land? And it means it means that Teddy Williams,

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Speaker 1: the former Panther, had personal issues asked to be released

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Speaker 1: from the roster, so he was subtracted from the ninety.

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Speaker 1: They had an open spot, it was in the secondary,

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Speaker 1: and so they signed. I believe it's it's Basil. I

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Speaker 1: believe that's how he pronounces it, the mammoth kid. And um,

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Speaker 1: you know, he had some very productive seasons at the

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Speaker 1: FCS level, and obviously when a safety has those kind

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Speaker 1: of numbers in college, you know he's probably gonna be

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Speaker 1: a good special teams player if he gets a chance

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. So they may be looking at him.

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Speaker 1: You know, I would think more from a special team's

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Speaker 1: perspective than safety perspective. But you know what, for all

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Speaker 1: I know, because we haven't had a chance to talk

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Speaker 1: to him yet, I mean, he just got here the team.

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Speaker 1: For all I know, maybe they think of him as, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know what, maybe he's a project. Maybe maybe he's

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Speaker 1: the kind of guy they want to take a look at.

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Speaker 1: And maybe he's practice squad material. He doesn't necessarily have

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Speaker 1: to be fifty three material because you you've got ninety

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Speaker 1: guys on this team. Not everybody's gonna make it well.

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Speaker 1: And Pat Shermer said, real quickly, and we'll let you continue.

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Speaker 1: Brian Sherman said, the goal is he wants all ninety

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Speaker 1: guys to get some work, whether it be proctic squads elsewhere,

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Speaker 1: can you name it. So that's how he's having his

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Speaker 1: outlook and that's what he's preaching to the rest of

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Speaker 1: the team. But you know, as far as Mike goes,

617
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Speaker 1: he just joined the team. He has yet to learn

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Speaker 1: the scheme, so it's a lot of catch up that

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Speaker 1: he has to play before you know he's at the

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Speaker 1: same level as some of the other players of the secondary.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Brian, have you ever seen him dropped down

622
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Speaker 1: the slot corner? That's something you've seen him doing college.

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Speaker 1: I have not watched any Mommoth tape and I can't

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Speaker 1: say that I have either. I'm sorry they used to

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Speaker 1: be in my conference the NBC years ago, but not

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Speaker 1: now before you let me go. Yeah, Um, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I know you guys get beat up with this all

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Speaker 1: the time. But with the whole Odell Beckham contract situation. UM,

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Speaker 1: I know that media puts someone spin on it and whatnot,

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Speaker 1: but um, saying he's the giants a projecting him worn't

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Speaker 1: for less than saying he walk into It's it's no

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Speaker 1: it's no secret that Sammy walk in Calvaltaine. All right,

633
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Speaker 1: he's not worth sixteen meant knowing a year he's not.

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Speaker 1: He's not. He's no. Odell back up. Here's what I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna do for you, Brian. I'm gonna I'm gonna paraphrase

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Speaker 1: what John Marras said several weeks ago when training camp opened.

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Speaker 1: He said, we want Odell Beckham Jr. To be a

638
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: long term giant, and we pretty much know the area

639
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: of value that his contract is going to fall in.

640
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing else unique to say about this.

641
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: And whatever rumors, sources, or innuendo you see on the

642
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: internet or here through the air waves is a bunch

643
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: of hot air. It's it's unnecessary and it does nothing

644
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: to further the Giants talks with Odell Beckham Jr. Well,

645
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: and here's the other thing. Here's the other thing. I

646
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: will add, Brian, with respect to what Paul said, that

647
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: report that you're referencing was made by ESPN. If you

648
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: look closely, there was another report from the NFL network

649
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: that completely conflicted with that ESPN report in terms of

650
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: the tone of the negotiations. So when you have conflicting

651
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: reports out there, you don't really know what to put

652
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: a lot of stock and substance behind. That's another reason

653
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: did not necessarily buy everything you read online. Okay, Well,

654
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: I just I just I just know all these all

655
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: these guys are getting okaidh them. There's no way not

656
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: even making a Pro Bowl, you know, is there? What

657
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: he got? Well, all of them a getting over crade.

658
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm just I don't want there to be like sour

659
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: grapes about this. This kid, he's good, It's very good.

660
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: He's a hall of failure. If this up all right,

661
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: Thanks for thanks for the phone call. We gotta we

662
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: gotta take care of our lines are just going crazy.

663
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: It's like a Christmas tree over there. Absolutely, and listen

664
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 1: as far as players getting overpaid Lessen. It's all about

665
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: what the team values the player for. That's what it

666
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: comes down to. And I mean personally, Stefon Diggs, I

667
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: think it's been a really productive player. If I'm Minnesota,

668
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm heading a pointless conversation. Guys know

669
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: how I feel. You know, I think the quarterbacks should

670
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: have their own salary cap. But that's just a league

671
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: wide impression that I have because I do think they

672
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: take up too much of a team's cap number. But

673
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: you know, I personally don't enjoy talking about contracts because

674
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't really do anything for me. It's not my money.

675
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: I have no control over the cap. I'm more interested

676
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: in the xs and os and the players out there

677
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: in the matchups that we're going to see and who

678
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: needs to make the roster. Let the bankers worry about

679
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: the money, absolutely well, that's why they have experts within

680
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: the front office that know the cap backwards and forwards.

681
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: Let's head back to the phone lines. Let's go to

682
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: Scott in New Mexico. Scott, what's happening, Good afternoon, guys,

683
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: how are you doing? He got what you got for us?

684
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: You've talked about offense, and defense. I was just curious,

685
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: are there special teams positions to be one tonight? Yes,

686
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: I was specifically talking about maybe what Eldrick Rosas does

687
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: tonight and if he doesn't do well, it that be

688
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: the death knell for him? Or are the Giants not

689
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: looking at in that directional? I mean, he's going to

690
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 1: have a good game. First of all, UH Coach Sherman

691
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: made it very clear. I think it was two days

692
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: ago in his presser when he said there will be

693
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: guys on this team who are really going to UH

694
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: make their mark on special teams. They may not even

695
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: play on first, second, or third down. He calls them

696
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: fourth down players. He actually gave them a title fourth

697
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: down players because they are of significance on special teams. So, yes,

698
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: there are going to be spots on specials. I don't

699
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: know how many, but he's going to pay mine to them.

700
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: That's first second. Aldre Grosss, according to the coach, has

701
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: improved his mechanics throughout the WORL season. I've talked to Aldrick.

702
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: He seems mentally to be in a much better place.

703
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: He's kicking the ball well here at training camp. I think,

704
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: if you'll pardon upon I think he's got a leg

705
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: up on the job, and I think as long as

706
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: he's adequate, I don't think they'll be looking to replace him.

707
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: But do I think he's on thin ice. Look, you

708
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: made field goals last year. That's not what this league

709
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: wants to see. So I don't think he's got a

710
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: ton of room for error. But I do think that

711
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: he's probably going to win the job. Okay, my second question, Uh,

712
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: there's a running back, Rob Martin from Rutgers. Yes, I

713
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: was wondering if he was going to get a lot

714
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: of playing time tonight because I think he did well

715
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: in training camp, So I was just curious how he's

716
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: how much time he might be able to be getting

717
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: tonight in the in the Cleveland game. I mean, that's

718
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: the big mystery. I think guys that are fourth or

719
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: fifth on the depth chart at their respective positions, Because

720
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm the coaching staff and I'm just

721
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: giving you my personal opinion, Scott, I mean I would

722
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: want to see a lot from Wayne Goldman tonight, not

723
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 1: just say Kwan Barkley. Wayne is the first guy after

724
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: Barkley that I want to see a lot of work

725
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,959
Speaker 1: out of. Jonathan Stewart I think falls in the Eli

726
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: Manning school of thought. Listen, if you give him a repertoire, fine,

727
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: but you're not pressed where. Oh my god, we have

728
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: to see what Jonathan Stewart could get. But after Barkley,

729
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: I would think a lot of the rep should go

730
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: towards Wayne Goleman, a player that's also still relatively young.

731
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 1: You want to give him an opportunity to pass protection,

732
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: you want to give him an opportunity to catch the

733
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: ball out of the backfield. I think he would be

734
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: more of a priority than necessarily some of these other players.

735
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: That's not to say Robert Martin is not gonna play,

736
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: but I'd be surprised if you see maybe more than

737
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: perhaps the mid to late fourth quarter from him. You know,

738
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: for me, it's Rob Martin against Jalen Simmons uh to

739
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: be the fourth running back. Whether or not they keep

740
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: four or they only keep three. I don't know the

741
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: answer to that. I don't think anybody does right now,

742
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: including coach Shermer. But but I think the battle for

743
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: the number four spot comes down to those two guys.

744
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: I would agree. Okay, now, if Wayne Goldman plays well,

745
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: to further your point, Lands is there a possibility he

746
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: supersedes johnthan Stewart as a second running back or do

747
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: you think they'll still have that pecking order of Berkley

748
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: Stewart And I still think Stewart is probably going to

749
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: be in that number to vicinity, I mean Goldman. That

750
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that he wouldn't play, but I still think

751
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: that they'll look at Stewart as a specific role, whether

752
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: it be the goal line, whether it be short yard situation,

753
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 1: slash spells kwon Barkley before Goldman leaves up the ladder.

754
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: I mean, Stewart's got more of a track record no

755
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: matter which Goldman brings to the table. Yeah, it could

756
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: could even be in the formative attack if Barkley needs

757
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: to breathe or Stewart would obviously be the go to

758
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: guy there. To me, the fact that Goldman and Stewart

759
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: bring different skill sets to the table is good for

760
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: both of them because one guy is probably not gonna

761
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: steal snaps the other. Gorman, to me, is going to

762
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: get a lot of the third downs and a lot

763
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: of the passing options out of the Barkley playbook, and

764
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: Stewart's gonna get more between the taco options out of

765
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: the Barkley playbook. Yeah, they each base situational backs to

766
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: spell se Kwan Barkley essentially when they obviously don't want

767
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: to get to a point where they give him twenty

768
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: to twenty five carries a game. So that's why I

769
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: think the true value of them is defined by their

770
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: roles as opposed to you know, vener and experience slash

771
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: limited opportunities. Okay, well, thanks guys, just curious of looking

772
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: forward to the game tonight and Joe Scott appreciate the

773
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: phone call. The one thing I wanted to add about

774
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: the special teams aspect of what Scott was bringing up.

775
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 1: Pat Shermer also emphasized if there's players on this team

776
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 1: that are strictly fourth down players, he would not hesitate

777
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: giving them a roster spot if they have a the

778
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: area that they're going to contribute. You know, normally we

779
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 1: look for a player that gives you a little on offense, defense,

780
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: and special times. If he feels they're a solid special

781
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: teams player, they could still very well earn a role

782
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: on the fifth thing, like I said, he gave them

783
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: that specific name fourth down players. These are guys who

784
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: overwhelmingly contribute on specials and may only do other small

785
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: things elsewhere to give those guys a name, to give

786
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: that cluster or that grouping a special name that tells

787
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: you he has quite an affection for what they can do.

788
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: Let's add back to the phone lines, turning point to

789
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: the program. Charlie is in Maine, Charlie, what's happening? Hey Paul,

790
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: Hey charl Hey, you know what I'm gonna be watching tonight.

791
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: We know exactly what you're gonna be watching. You don't

792
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: even have to call in to tell us that. I'm

793
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: gonna be watching number seventy four to see if he

794
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 1: had any technique on the right side. And I'm also

795
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: going to be watching all the other back up tackles

796
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: that we have to see if they can play at

797
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 1: all in on defense. I'm gonna be watching number twenty

798
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: four Mr Eli apples like if he can get his

799
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: head turned around. And then I'm gonna be watching for that,

800
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: say the position next to Collins, who is gonna, you know,

801
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: branch out and finally take the spots. Because when Bet

802
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,479
Speaker 1: You're saying they're all buns together, that is like that's

803
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: not good because that's saying they're either all mediocre together

804
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: or they're all okay, but nobody is come out to say, yeah,

805
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: this is the guy, this is the guy that we're

806
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: gonna have. So those are those are the areas that

807
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: I'm going to be really Washington. I especially the old

808
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: line people. You know what, Charlie, I don't know if

809
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 1: the Browns are planning to flip Garrett in old Bah,

810
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: but these are two guys who can get after the

811
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: quarterback off of the edge, and Karl Nassa, of course,

812
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: is their third pass rushing defensive end. So it will

813
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: be interesting to see not only how does Flowers do,

814
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: but how many times he's matched up, specifically against Garrett,

815
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: who has commanded a tremendous amount of respect joining this

816
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: Brown squad exactly. So it's gonna be interesting for me

817
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: to see. If I'll say one thing, flowers attitude is better. Yes,

818
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean his physicality and his technique and how

819
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna play is going to be Can I tell

820
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: you something, Charlie. I don't know if we had this

821
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: conversation earlier when training camp began, but I know for

822
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: a fact because I asked about it. He came in

823
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: at exactly the prescribed weight and conditioning measurements that they

824
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: asked him to And I said, you know, isn't that

825
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: odd because uh, he missed mini camp, as you know,

826
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: And there were a lot of reports again reports I

827
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 1: put that in quotes that maybe he wasn't so happy

828
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: with being moved to the right side and he was

829
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: staying home. Well, here's the thing, you can't fool the science,

830
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: and the science says he was on weight and his

831
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: measurables and conditioning was on track, which meant he must

832
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: have been busting his butt all off season, because the

833
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: the medics here will tell you. You You know, if you

834
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: didn't do that, it will show up because those months

835
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: of the off season that you're sitting on so fun,

836
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: you're eating potato chips, or you're just not going out

837
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: and working out and doing everything you're supposed to do,

838
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 1: it will show up when they give you those tests.

839
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: He came in and everything was exactly where it was

840
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: supposed to be. So I I further asked, well, do

841
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: you know specifically what it was that he did, and

842
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: they said, no, you know, he wasn't here. We know

843
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: he wasn't around, but we know with total confidence based

844
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: on the science and the measurements. He had to be

845
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: working hard because you can't fool the numbers. No, I

846
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: like I said, I think his mentality is better. The

847
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: thing is is like when you know he's going out

848
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: to dinner and the offensive line, they're all hanging out together,

849
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: and which is great, but technique is only going to

850
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: help from picking up the fork, spoon and the knife.

851
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: It doesn't He's going out to dinner together and hanging

852
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: out together is going to turn into technique in a game.

853
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: So that's why I want to see if he's going

854
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: to be duck in his head grabbing people as the

855
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: guy runs by him. Charlie, do me one favor. Please

856
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: do me one favor. It's one preseason game. I really

857
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: don't want to hear you calling up Monday morning if

858
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: Flowers struggled some and basically trying to throw him into

859
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: the Hudson River. It's one preseason game. Enough time, no no, no, no,

860
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: no no no. Hold, it's one preseason game at a

861
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: new position. I want you to do me a favor.

862
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: If you're gonna call when I'm on this show again,

863
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: do not grade Flowers until the four preseason games are done.

864
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: Then I'll be glad. To talk about him, but I

865
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 1: Am not going to talk to you about him until

866
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: the four preseason games are over. That's the polite way

867
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: of Paul saying. When he's on this show, do not

868
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: call it Charlie's you call me about somebody else, Charlie.

869
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: But I'm not into this until I see the four games. Well, Charlie,

870
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: this is what I will say, Charlie. I agree with you, Charlie.

871
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: I agree with you that talk is cheap and it

872
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: all comes down to what he does in the games.

873
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: I don't just question. I mean, we could tell you

874
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: she's good mentally, is there? I mean, this goes for

875
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: any player. This is not just Eric Flowers. Everybody could

876
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: talk a great game. When you get on the field

877
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: is when you separate the men from the shame of

878
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: it is would all the prep work that he did

879
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: before last season it did not translate to the appropriate

880
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:33,479
Speaker 1: level that it should have. That's the shame of it. So, Charlie, look,

881
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: I got a big question mark right now next to

882
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: his name because I'm not sure what they're gonna get either. Okay,

883
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: I mean I can't be any more honest. Yeah, I hear. Look, hey,

884
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: if he has if he struggled in this game. I

885
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: won't bash him, but I will say I'll call us

886
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: and say we should bring a veteran in to least

887
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: be there just in case he, you know, out. I

888
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: don't think anybody would argue with that either, to be

889
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 1: honest with you. And by the way, if Myles Garrett

890
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: gets him for two sacks, it doesn't necessarily make him,

891
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: you know, a bad guy, because Myles Garrett can do

892
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,479
Speaker 1: that to a lot of guys. There's a reason why

893
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: he was selected where he was selected. But the truth is, Charlie,

894
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: we should not be hearing from you immediately after the game,

895
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: because I'm looking at the preseason schedule, the amount of

896
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: games that you have to watch in the next three days,

897
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: so that you could start scouring the waiver wire where

898
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: these tackers get waved. We should not hear from you

899
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: for at least the next four weeks because you, of

900
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: all people, are gonna want to know who the Rams

901
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: are gonna get rid of, who's six or seventh on

902
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: their depth chart, and you're the only person that we

903
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: can go to to provide that type of insights. I mean, Paul,

904
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: we're all choking aside. I should not hear from you

905
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: on this program for the next four weeks. You're gonna

906
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 1: have enough material to watch until you're blew in the face. Hey, tonight,

907
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: in your post games show, do you take phone calls? Yes,

908
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: we do take phone calls. We only take phone calls

909
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 1: to people that reside outside of the state of Maine.

910
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: So it's unfortunate that we're breaking that type of news.

911
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: Charlie and Charlie game tonight. Okay, enjoy the game, Charlie.

912
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,479
Speaker 1: You gotta go. Absolutely always a pleasure. Oh boy. Zach

913
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: is in New York as we move along here on

914
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff Live. How we doing, Zach? Hey, what's

915
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: going on? John? And it's Lance and Paul strike one.

916
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: We'll give you a second try. I'm sorry, I tell you, man.

917
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: We go from Charlie. Listen. Following Charlie on this program

918
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: is not very difficult people, Okay, it's the easiest person

919
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: to follow. Okay, how can you let the bull drop

920
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: on that? Oh boy? Oh my goodness, that's sorry, brother.

921
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: Go ahead, What do you got questions? I have two

922
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 1: questions for you, guys. Behind b J Hill has defensive

923
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: tackle Christians recording made a splash in training camp that's

924
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: my first question ahead, and yeah, what's the second one?

925
00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: And the second question is were wide receiver has made

926
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: the most splash in your opinion, Sterling, shepherds the wide

927
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 1: receiver who to me, has had the best camp of

928
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 1: those guys in that room. Agreed, But yeah, the guys

929
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: that are battling for in the third spot. I still

930
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: believe that Corey Lattimer has the inside track to be

931
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: number three. But the truth of the matter is he

932
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: doesn't get a lot of balls thrown to him in practice. Um,

933
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: he does everything they asked him to do. He's also

934
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: very good blocking for the run. But the bottom line is,

935
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: if you're asking for who's made the most big plays,

936
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: the funny part is, of all the other receivers, Khalif

937
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: Raymond probably has made more deep, spectacular plays or exciting

938
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: kinds of plays than any of the other receivers. But

939
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: he's also going against third and fourth teamers, and several

940
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: times he's gotten deep for forty yard bombs against busted

941
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: coverages where he was the the only guy back there

942
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: and the ball. But you know what, you gotta make

943
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: those plays at least catch up. But I'm with you, Paul,

944
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: I think Raymond is stuck out the other guys. I

945
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: think Alonso Russell has stuck out to Russell, Shepard made

946
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: every day. Here's the thing. Every day at camp, one

947
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: of those guys on the back end of the receiver

948
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: depth chart usually makes a player too. That makes you

949
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: feel like, oh, okay, he had a pretty good day.

950
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: And then the next day it's one of the other guys.

951
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: And the next day it's one of the other guys.

952
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: And very rarely do you keep writing down the same

953
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: name day after day after day, which is why the

954
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 1: games is to meet the next stage in determining how

955
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: we separate these guys. And I will say this, and

956
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: we'll let you step in again. Here, Zach Roger Lewis,

957
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: who obviously has much more experience than the rest of

958
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: the players. In years past, I would say, hey, if

959
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: you're Roger Lewis, you gotta feel good. But this is

960
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: a new system and a completely new coaching staff, so

961
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if if you're Roger Lewis, you say

962
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: that you have a significant edge over the rest of

963
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 1: the receivers at this point, I you know, I think

964
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to go in and have some good

965
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: games as far as your defensive line question, for me,

966
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 1: Carry Winn and Josh Morrow are the next guy's up

967
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: in that defensive line rotation, uh being on the end

968
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: of that that front. I you know, I just I

969
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: think there are too many guys that have to have

970
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 1: to be climbed over, uh, you know, for for your

971
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: guy to be able to make it well. And here's

972
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: the other name that we haven't brought up. A J. Francis,

973
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: I thought has had a really good case. Big dude,

974
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: by the way, nobody brings up his name, and he's

975
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: a veteran too, and he's a wide body, so so

976
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: I would I would put Zack, Yeah, I would personally,

977
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: that's a name to watch out for. And then if

978
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: you want another name, you know, don't forget Robert Thomas

979
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: is still here too, but Thomas is probably the favorite

980
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: to back up Snacks, and I get that. But I

981
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: can see that also they're gonna move these guys around

982
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: a little bit too, So I wouldn't ruled out, but

983
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: a J. Francis would be the guy that I would

984
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: look at. If you're looking for who's behind the starting

985
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 1: think about Morrow is he's gonna miss the first four

986
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: games with a suspension, so they are gonna have a

987
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: roster spot to deal with for a month. Yeah, thanks

988
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 1: for the reason I asked for a Christians according because

989
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: he's like the first Albanian player that it plays. Now

990
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: we're getting all right. Now, we're getting to the meated

991
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: potatoes of the phone call. We finally get to I

992
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: guess I can honestly tell you that as I've written

993
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: my notes at the end of practice every day, I

994
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: don't really remember writing them down. Have a good day,

995
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 1: Thank you, appreciate the phone call, and remember John's the

996
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: one with not as much hair on the top of

997
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: his head the next time you call it as much.

998
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: Let's head back to the phone lines. Branded is in

999
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: New York Branded? What's happening? Hey, guys, how you doing?

1000
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: What do you got for us? No? I was just

1001
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: I have a quick question, um, actually two quick questions,

1002
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: one about the defense, one about the offense. Um. My

1003
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: first one, I can go forward the defense. Do you guys,

1004
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: how how big of an impact do you guys believe

1005
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: Local Tree is gonna have on this defense? A ton,

1006
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: flat out a ton. He will bring the leadership and

1007
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: the intangibles to this defense, much like Antonio Pierce did

1008
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: with Spags's defense when they won the Super Bowl. They're

1009
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: different styles of players. Pierce was a plug between the

1010
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: gaps between the tackles kind of backer. Okay, Ogiltree is

1011
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: a side to side chase and and hit linebacker. Different styles,

1012
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: but they're intangibles are very similar in terms of how

1013
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,479
Speaker 1: they're going to be the heart and soul of this defense. Yeah,

1014
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: I definitely agree. I see very very I see a

1015
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: lot of similarities between those two players, you know, and

1016
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: Antonio Piers is definitely one of my my favorites. I

1017
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: love it when I love how the defense was back

1018
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: when straight hand and all those guys were there. But

1019
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 1: now coming back up to the new era and bringing

1020
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: up that, um, you know that that era, I can

1021
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: bring my offensive question in. So obviously, our running game

1022
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: has been horrible for a few years now. We haven't

1023
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: done much to produce on our running game. But now

1024
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: that we have Kwon Barkley, um, you know, that's going

1025
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: to open up the play action for Eli, and I

1026
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: honestly think Eli was amazing when he had those three

1027
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 1: running backs. Opening up that play action, you guys believe

1028
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: that we're gonna see a lot of play action this

1029
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: year and and it's going to be different. And as

1030
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: far as the offense is concerned, I think you see

1031
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: a lot of double tight end. I think your play

1032
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: action will be increased, but but double tight end. I

1033
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: think it's going to be the most dramatic change you

1034
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: see on this team. Yeah. And the other thing, remember,

1035
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: play action is all based on the success of your

1036
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: running game. You know, it's not a matter of that.

1037
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: If coaches branded don't want to use play action, the

1038
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: problem is you're not gonna fool anybody if you have

1039
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 1: no establishment to the run, because they're not gonna bite

1040
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:53,479
Speaker 1: for it. So play action is all based on how

1041
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: successful the Giants established the run game. If say Kwan Barkley,

1042
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: Jonathan Stewart, Wayne Goldman all provide an enough of an

1043
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: ignition with the run game that the safety has got

1044
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: to come down, they've got to respect the run, then

1045
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: I think you're going to see some more play action

1046
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: as a result of that. To me, those are set

1047
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: oonymous with one another. Yeah, and I think they I

1048
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 1: think they should go with it because there I don't

1049
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: think that with the wide receiving corps that we have

1050
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: and and you know, having ingram in there at tight end.

1051
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: The hands that we have are it looks it looks great,

1052
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: you know, And of course everybody said it last year

1053
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: the same thing, and unfortunately we did fault to some injuries.

1054
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 1: But with the hands that are back there, and you

1055
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: don't want to single coverage any of these guys, or

1056
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: if you're fall for that thick and you come down

1057
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: and you got a wide open receiver out there, it's

1058
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be a fun year. Well, there's an

1059
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: overwhelming amount of talent on the offensive side of the ball,

1060
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Speaker 1: at least on paper. And appreciate the phone call, Brandon.

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Speaker 1: I say this all the time. Paper, everything could look great,

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't always translate to the field. And that's

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Speaker 1: why you want to see what happens in the preseason

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00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: and the regular season. But I can't overlook the fact

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Speaker 1: Paul and I brought this up time and time again

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Speaker 1: when I look at the Vikings personnel and then I

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Speaker 1: look at the Giants personnel, to me, they're almost mirror

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00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: images of one another. I'm not talking about talent. I'm

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00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: talking about just the roles. What he was working with

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota with two established wide receivers and Stefon Diggs

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Speaker 1: and Adam Feeling are young running back in Dalvin Cook,

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Speaker 1: you got Beckham and Shepard Barkley. The offensive line to

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00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: free agents were brought in Pat elf Line. The center

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Speaker 1: was drafted. Okay, Nate Solder, Patrick o'mama, Will Hernandez. I

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Speaker 1: just see a lot of works in the passing game,

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00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: Kyle Rudolph, Evan Ingram. So you know that to me

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Speaker 1: boats very well for the Giants. If Sherman had success

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00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: with that group, and you figure, all right, well, part

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Speaker 1: of the rationale and then putting the roster together like

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Speaker 1: this was because of what happened in Minnesota. You hope

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Speaker 1: that that translates over. You would think a lot of

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00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: the styles and philosophies, if nothing else, would allow him

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Speaker 1: to bring it here, and and they should. They should

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00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: at the very least be good, very good, excellent, dominant.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but this should be a good offense

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00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 1: at the very least, unless particular unit in the trenches

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Speaker 1: decides that, you know, they're not going to get it done.

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Speaker 1: I mean short of that, but the offensive line is

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00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: just adequate. This should be a very solid, very good

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Speaker 1: offense at the very least. Let's head back to the

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Speaker 1: phone lines. T is in Maryland, Tea. What's happening? What's

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Speaker 1: going on? PAULI. I was up there. I brought my

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Speaker 1: son and I missed you, man. I'm sorry. I'm here

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Speaker 1: all the time. I know. I got a chance to

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Speaker 1: um walk around and I got Charles Way's autograph and

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00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: he got a chance to take a picture with Charles

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00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: Wayne Williams. So it was pretty good day. And I

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00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: can say this. I was talking about the thinking about

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00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: the offense, you know, um, almost just picking back on

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Speaker 1: what you said, because my brother and I were going

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00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: conversing about the same thing, you know, and then the

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Speaker 1: Solda he didn't they didn't do a draftic you know, rebuild.

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00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: They just did a fine tune, a little overhaul so

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00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: they can do the same thing with their you know,

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00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: with what we got here. Like you said, they drafted

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00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: her Nandez while then to free agents, drafted because last year,

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00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: I remember Cook was a rookie as well, and so

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00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you know, it doesn't have to be super

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00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: like this lights out, you know, fastest show on turf offense,

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Speaker 1: but anything would be an improvement over what happened last year.

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00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: It's hard to believe stually working on think counting on

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Speaker 1: that to happen. It's hard to believe with the guys

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Speaker 1: on paper on this offense. And I know we keep

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Speaker 1: talking about last season. We thought during the summer this

1115
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: was gonna be a phenomenal offense and then look what

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00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: happened to it. It's hard to believe based on the

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00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: approvance May made that the Giants won't have at least

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Speaker 1: a top ten offense, Right, I mean, that's fair, isn't it. Yeah, No,

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00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: that's that's at least absolutely fair. And I honestly think that,

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Speaker 1: you know, the status that everyone is hoping because you know,

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00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: even last week you and I were talking about, you know,

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00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: the stats and everything went on with John but the

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Speaker 1: amount of guys that they had that's going to free

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00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: up and and I'm not even putting the whole Croon

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00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: Barkley phenomenon into the equation. Just the fact of having

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Speaker 1: an established running game that can consistently get you three

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00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: to five yards that right there is going to make

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Speaker 1: a big difference. Well, I'll tell you what, my friend.

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Speaker 1: One of the one of the things that has to

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Speaker 1: be done, and this isn't necessarily on the offense, because

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00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: there will be times with the schedule that the Giants

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00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: are facing where they're not going to be able to

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00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: score as many touchdowns as they want. They darn well

1134
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: better convert on those three point field goals. I have

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you. I like Aldrick Ross as

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00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: a person. I think he's got a lot of talent,

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00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: but he needs to be up to speed because there

1138
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: are gonna be times, I'm telling you right now, just

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Speaker 1: like two years ago, when the Giants won double digits

1140
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: and they went to the playoffs and they want a

1141
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: bunch of very close games, missed field goals could do

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Speaker 1: a lot of derail this team. They're gonna need to

1143
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: cash in on points and not just get touchdowns in

1144
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: the red zone. But they're gonna be times they're gonna

1145
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: be stopped at the thirty yard line, the twenty eight

1146
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: yard line, they're not quite the red zone. You gotta

1147
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: be able to hit that forty five yard field goal consistently.

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Speaker 1: Gonna be big because think about it, in the first

1149
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Speaker 1: Eagles game, had um that I had that field go

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Speaker 1: not been missed, that would have been a win in

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Speaker 1: my book, I honestly think so. Well, again, the Philly

1152
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: and Tampa games, the back to back last second field

1153
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Speaker 1: goals by the opposition that that in retrospect, there's no

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Speaker 1: question that flushed the season. And then on the flip

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Speaker 1: side though, in the Eagles game that you reference, remember

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Speaker 1: Jake Elliott who's sixty two yards and delivers for the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: and that was it or sixty two. It was over sixties,

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Speaker 1: over sixty. But the reason I bring that up is

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Speaker 1: there's somebody who wasn't necessarily put in that position prior

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Speaker 1: and came through after. By the way, they lost their

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Speaker 1: established in Caleb Sturgeons because he went down. So the

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Speaker 1: point that I'm bringing up is it just goes to

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Speaker 1: show you have depth, you have guys that can deliver

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Speaker 1: and step in in the in the event somebody goes down.

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Speaker 1: That's the sign of a very strong team. And that's

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Speaker 1: what the Giants were. Yeah, hey, you guys have a

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Speaker 1: going and um hopefully I'll catch you guys before the

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Speaker 1: season start. If not, I'll be there doing the season. Paul,

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Speaker 1: good stuff. Appreciate the take care. Thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: weighing in. Very busy we're on the phone lines today.

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Speaker 1: We certainly appreciate everybody for weighing in I can tell

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Speaker 1: everybody's amped up and excited about the game kickoff. I

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Speaker 1: can tell Paul to Tino five minutes away from kickoff,

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Speaker 1: all right, real quickly before we wrap up. Fans in

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Speaker 1: the local market can watch the game live for free

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01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: by visiting Giants dot Com at kickoff seven pm Eastern.

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Speaker 1: Those outside of the local market, the game is gonna

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Speaker 1: be on NFL Network, so you're covered there. In terms

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Speaker 1: of our radio broadcast, we're gonna have our pregame show

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Speaker 1: start at six oh five pm Eastern on w CBS

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Speaker 1: eight eight AM, and then we will have a full

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Speaker 1: postgame show for an hour immediately following the game on

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Speaker 1: the same channel, w CBS eight A D A M.

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Speaker 1: Locally on TV on w NBC Channel four, nationally on

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Speaker 1: television on NFL Network. So there it is. You're covered

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Speaker 1: TV and radio. Big Blue kickoff live on tomorrow again

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Speaker 1: one pm Eastern to recap all the festivities. That will

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Speaker 1: be back up and running again on Monday with another

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Speaker 1: full week of coverage. By the way, even with the

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Speaker 1: team in Detroit, we are going to have b b

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Speaker 1: k L every single day from our studios all next

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Speaker 1: week covering the team and providing the latest, so stay

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Speaker 1: tuned for that. For Paul to Tino, I'm Lance metto

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Speaker 1: enjoy the game tonight and stay locked the giants dot

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Speaker 1: com for all the latest. Have a going