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Speaker 2: it's definitely not and not the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. After

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Speaker 2: last night oh boy, yeah, oh boy. Listen, I would

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Speaker 2: like to apologize to the Detroit Lions organization.

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Speaker 4: I might have I'm going to second that with Seattle.

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Speaker 2: I might have overrated my thought that the coordinators in

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Speaker 2: Detroit had on that team specifically on defense, because damn man,

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Speaker 2: they look pretty good and it seems like the same

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Speaker 2: old Lions despite the loss of an OC and a DC,

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Speaker 2: and they're just rolling along. Jamior Gibbs just ran wild

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Speaker 2: last night. Tampa's banged up, but.

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Speaker 5: I would actually make the case the defense is better,

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Speaker 5: I mean in all honesty, which looking at the Jets

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Speaker 5: operation right now, yeah, okay, that makes some sense. Struggling mentally,

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Speaker 5: but with all the injuries they've endured, fired how well

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Speaker 5: they're playing, like, with all the injuries to their secondary,

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Speaker 5: it's pretty remarkable.

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Speaker 4: I got to restate what I said. I'm not apologizing

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Speaker 4: to Seattle.

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Speaker 5: That's right, don't apologize.

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Speaker 4: I'm apologizing to the Houston Texan fans for saying that

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Speaker 4: the Houston Texans would actually have a bounce back a

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Speaker 4: year and be good this year. I'm sorry, and I

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Speaker 4: apologize to y'all because y'all go, yeah, it ain't gonna

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Speaker 4: well for Houston this year. It don't look good at all.

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Speaker 2: A look, why did they move on from Bobby Sloak again?

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Speaker 2: Why was that the move they decided to make. I

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Speaker 2: know that you know he had the one year he's

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Speaker 2: being interviewed for head coaching jobs. The next year they

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Speaker 2: decide that's a rap? Why did they get rid of

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Speaker 2: Laramie Tunsel? Like I just they're just you watch them

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Speaker 2: on off ench you go what is this?

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Speaker 4: What is it? What is it like?

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Speaker 2: It's nowhere close to what CJ. Stroud was his rookie year. Well,

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Speaker 2: and how does that happen? How do you like Q

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Speaker 2: as a quarterback? If they found succes that's what you

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Speaker 2: one year? How do they lose to success with you

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Speaker 2: the next year?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 4: What what happens? What goes into that?

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Speaker 5: Well, there's a number of things. I think the first

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Speaker 5: opponent is going to watch you. They're going to watch

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Speaker 5: you know what your strengths and weaknesses are. Well, that

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Speaker 5: and clearly after his rookie year, which was a phenomenal year,

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Speaker 5: we'd admit that they've struggled. Although the interesting thing you

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Speaker 5: So they were able to overcome all of this adversity.

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Speaker 5: You know what's happened since then. It's hard to put

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Speaker 5: But you know, when I watch, I see again lack

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Speaker 5: We've talked about that at length. In that same division,

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Speaker 5: it doesn't appear like whatever they're doing offensively is working

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Speaker 5: think we're under we're understanding how good the Seahawks defense

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Speaker 4: It's going to be fun watching Seattle moving forward. I

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Speaker 4: screwed that one up. I did you guys.

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Speaker 5: Wanted me to like recap what happened this week in

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Speaker 5: our picks against the spread?

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Speaker 4: Or do you want me to wait till like money line?

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Speaker 4: The Texans? They totally be me. They boned you.

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Speaker 5: You all said the Bucks that one getting six points

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Speaker 5: Jonas you missed the Bucks as well, and then you

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Speaker 5: had the Texans against the spreads. I'm also missed that.

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Speaker 2: Why do we have to point out everybody's flaws there

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Speaker 2: in the opening?

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Speaker 4: But how he sets it up, you know this, how

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Speaker 4: he sets it up to go last, go ahead? What

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Speaker 4: what did you do? Brady six and bed? You just

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Speaker 4: got to know how Brady rolls. He's a horrible winner,

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Speaker 4: the horrible winner. What you knew You knew that was

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Speaker 5: You know that's right. Week seven of the NFL Picks

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Speaker 5: against the spread, Jonas Knox are one four, LeVar Arrington

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Speaker 5: leads us to an overall record of Jonas Knox nineteen

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Speaker 5: and eighteen, just a bit above five hundred. LaVar Arrington

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Speaker 5: now creeping closer to five hundred at twenty six and

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Speaker 5: twenty one, and mister Quinn at thirty and eleven. That's

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Speaker 5: a seven thirty one win percentage, wiping the floor of

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Speaker 5: the two pros and I covered Joe picks against the

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Speaker 5: spread them up.

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Speaker 2: Oh you co sona. Yeah, this is disgusting. If you

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Speaker 2: ask me, I just the little humility would go a

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Speaker 2: long way on this show. And LeVar and I have

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Speaker 2: held a bar into the margain. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, we've been super humble. You know, it's all good.

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Speaker 5: You know, every dog just reacted last week when when

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Speaker 5: Jonas I don't remember that. I don't remember that being.

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Speaker 4: He won one percent was a horrible winner one hundred,

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Speaker 4: I will.

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Speaker 5: Say that though LeVar, I don't know what's happened the

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Speaker 5: last two weeks. But LaVar is two and eleven. This

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Speaker 5: has been an odd skid for you.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's when when reasoning and logic are are fleeting.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's it's it's just you guys have have

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Speaker 4: now become better because you know, logic is out the door.

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't know, maybe you're a streaky guy.

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Speaker 5: That's kind of how you live your life is streaky.

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Speaker 5: I'm pretty like the three weeks prior you were balling

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because that's it was still sensible. Like my, my, my,

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Speaker 4: My predictions are sensible, the outcomes are not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you were on the right side of it, the results,

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Speaker 2: I'm on.

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Speaker 4: The right side of the pics.

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Speaker 5: You're kind of feast or famine.

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Speaker 4: I'm with you. I am a feast or famine guy.

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Speaker 5: You're all out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's what it sounds like.

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Speaker 5: Jonas has just been consistently not good. That's what.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing. I get up and I answer

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Speaker 5: There's something you said for that. Yeah, yeah, I get that.

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Speaker 5: It's very relatable too.

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Speaker 2: You know, I can take a pun.

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Speaker 4: Just doing it. That's like him doing that show on

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Speaker 4: Sunday night before he comes in here. What you mean

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Speaker 4: by that bad bad I'm not even going to expand

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Speaker 4: on that. He no need to. I was going to

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Speaker 5: You when you watch him on that show, do you

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Speaker 2: If I'm being honest, if you're bringing material form that show,

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Speaker 5: I say stuff to you about it.

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Speaker 4: I watched most of the games on mute, and when

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Speaker 4: Just see him with his hand in his pocket.

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Speaker 4: There Amy standing there with his hand in his pocket.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'll be talking to me, talking to the

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Speaker 4: camera or to TV, like Joe, to take your hand

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Speaker 4: out of your pocket, am I put it? Like put

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Speaker 4: it on your microphone, Cross, put it on your microphone.

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Speaker 4: Like you put your hand in your pocket.

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Speaker 2: It's a hand it's a handheld mic, and but you

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Speaker 2: hold it with both hands. Bro, I'm going to hold

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Speaker 2: the mike with both hands. Yeah, what am I a toddler?

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Speaker 2: It's it's like television etiquette. You It's like I didn't

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Speaker 2: want to say this, but it's like a one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent no note to put your hand in your pocket

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Speaker 2: when you're in like a full full length you know, framing.

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Speaker 4: The game has changed, bro, No it has not us. No,

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Speaker 4: it has all right, I changed it. Having your hand,

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Speaker 4: you'd be playing with your dollar bills up in there. Dollar,

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Speaker 4: He'll put his whole hand up in there. He does,

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Speaker 4: got like his two fingers up in there, like he's

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Speaker 4: like he's like he's rubbing.

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Speaker 2: His Yeah, dollar, Phil's what you mean.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We use pa Oh no, so uh, I know we're

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Speaker 2: gonna ask Dean Blandido about some of what happened in

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Speaker 2: the NFL coming up an hour three. So I swear

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Speaker 2: to god, I don't understand what happened on the kate

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I really, I don't get you.

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Speaker 4: I just think referees have always been a necessary evil

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Speaker 4: Bone for a reason. You know, just be running down.

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Speaker 5: I'll never forget South Florida. That shuffle, that walk that morning,

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Speaker 4: Bring them in.

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Speaker 2: You get them on X if you dare to at

436
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Speaker 2: Dean Blandino.

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Speaker 4: Hey, hey, hey, bring them in.

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Speaker 2: Dean, good morning, and you did.

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Speaker 6: How excited? How excited you guys can't when you hear

440
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Speaker 6: that music, It's so good.

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Speaker 4: It's good. We're trying to stay in character here, No,

442
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Speaker 4: I know.

443
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Speaker 6: The Godfather impressions were pretty impressive bringing I'm going to

444
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Speaker 6: having nightmare.

445
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Speaker 2: Hey, I had, I had training for one of the best.

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Speaker 5: That was really goody.

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Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, I forgot that the godmother, you're having a stroke?

448
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Speaker 6: What's going on?

449
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Speaker 7: You never?

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Hey hey, hey, hey hey, come here

451
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Speaker 3: for a second.

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Speaker 4: Bean.

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Speaker 6: Uh Now, I think you like outside a white conversion

454
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Speaker 6: van with pinted windows.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, I want to ask you this. It's kind of

456
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Speaker 2: a general question. I don't know if there's a way

457
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Speaker 2: to if there are numbers to support this. But and

458
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Speaker 2: this could be just because of social media, just because

459
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Speaker 2: of the number of camera angles, like what we're able

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Speaker 2: to see nowadays. But do you feel like officiating this

461
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Speaker 2: year is worse than it's been because it feels like

462
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Speaker 2: there's more conversation about either miss calls. And I don't

463
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Speaker 2: know if that's just from how many people are watching

464
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Speaker 2: now and so there's more coverage of it. But what's

465
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Speaker 2: your read on how the officiating crews have done this year,

466
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Speaker 2: maybe as opposed to years in the past.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's that's something that I think we're

468
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Speaker 6: going to live with every year. I think the scrutiny

469
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Speaker 6: and the technology and how we how we evaluate and

470
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Speaker 6: critique officials is so much greater than it was, and

471
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Speaker 6: so I think that narrative that that team is going

472
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Speaker 6: to be every year. I think you're going to hear

473
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Speaker 6: here's some of that. I do listen. I mean, and

474
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Speaker 6: maybe this is just recency bias, but I like watching

475
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Speaker 6: the game last night the Lions. You know that I

476
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Speaker 6: didn't think that was a well officiated game, you know,

477
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Speaker 6: And I do feel like there's been some I think

478
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Speaker 6: replay the struggling in New York to some extent with

479
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Speaker 6: some of these deals. I mean, you watched the couple

480
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Speaker 6: of plays last night, Dan Campbell challenges and they look

481
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Speaker 6: at it and they're like, oh wait, we got to

482
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Speaker 6: go back and look at it again. And and so

483
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Speaker 6: you know, the game is, game gets faster. I don't

484
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Speaker 6: know if the officials are are better or worse than

485
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Speaker 6: they were two years ago, five years ago, ten years ago,

486
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Speaker 6: but it does feel like we're struggling in some areas

487
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Speaker 6: and and uh, you know, and you gotta you know,

488
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Speaker 6: we're not always the early season. Everybody's kind of you know,

489
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Speaker 6: preseason isn't great. You're kind of getting where we're going

490
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Speaker 6: into what now we gate it's it's uh, I think

491
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Speaker 6: we got to like buckle up a little bit.

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Speaker 7: Dean.

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Speaker 5: On that note, you know, we talked about the interception

494
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Speaker 5: by Mollette Away What I heard you pronounce it k

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Speaker 5: what was originally a Kate reception? First off, how did

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Speaker 5: you see that play? And then help me understand how

497
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Speaker 5: New York and I understand I guess the time of

498
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Speaker 5: the game and all that, but help me understand. Are

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Speaker 5: the mechanics still the same where there has to be

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Speaker 5: a certain burden of proof from the angles that you

501
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Speaker 5: have for New York to overturn a call. But they're

502
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Speaker 5: still taking into consideration the call that was on the field, right,

503
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Speaker 5: they're not reofficiating the play.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's the standard. That's been the guiding principle,

505
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Speaker 6: that you're not reofficiating the play going, Okay, what do

506
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Speaker 6: we think it's? The ruling on the field is this,

507
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Speaker 6: And we need to see something clear that jumps out

508
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Speaker 6: that says it's not that and it needs to be changed.

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Speaker 6: And that was you know, if I had to reofficiate

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Speaker 6: the play, I'd probably lean interception. But they ruled to

511
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Speaker 6: catch Otten right. I had his hands on it. I

512
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Speaker 6: mean they were both fighting for it. The tie goes

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Speaker 6: to the receiver. I didn't think it was necessarily a

514
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Speaker 6: simultaneous catch, but but it certainly was close, and I

515
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Speaker 6: didn't see enough to overturn that. And that's one of

516
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Speaker 6: those deals where and I learned that the hard way

517
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Speaker 6: in my own experience making decisions is I don't have

518
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Speaker 6: to just convince myself. The burden of proof is Okay,

519
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Speaker 6: I can show this video to one hundred people and

520
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Speaker 6: they would go, oh, yeah, absolutely, look I see it. Yep,

521
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Speaker 6: clearly that's an interception. And I just didn't think that

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Speaker 6: was the case.

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Speaker 5: So I guess just to follow up on that, then

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Speaker 5: how do they make that call and explain to me

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Speaker 5: simultaneous possession. Then my understanding of that is like if

526
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Speaker 5: both players go up for it kind of like they

527
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Speaker 5: did that, it really just has to be both of

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Speaker 5: them have possession of it as they go to the ground,

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Speaker 5: as the place stops.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so yeah, something's possession has to be and it's

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Speaker 6: rare that you see, but everything has to happen at

532
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Speaker 6: the same exact time. Like both players get control at

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Speaker 6: the same time. They both have to main that control.

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Speaker 6: If one player loses it even for a split second, right,

535
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Speaker 6: so they have to make exact same time get control.

536
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Speaker 6: They both have to maintain that control all the way

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Speaker 6: to the end of in that instance them going to

538
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Speaker 6: the ground. Most of the time it's kind of the

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Speaker 6: you know, because it's so hard at full speed, officials

540
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Speaker 6: are going to you know, survival of the fit is

541
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Speaker 6: who and who ends up with it. That's typically what

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Speaker 6: they're going to rule unless they you know, they saw

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Speaker 6: something you know different, but so so that's that simultaneous possession.

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Speaker 6: Like I said, you can make a case that maybe

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Speaker 6: that was it, but again this I think whoever's making

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Speaker 6: that decision is using a I think standard versus what

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Speaker 6: I can actually prove standard and it's not an I

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Speaker 6: think standard, And I think that's what's happening in some

549
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Speaker 6: of these instances.

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Speaker 4: Dan Baker Mayfield had some strong criticisms coming the way

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Speaker 4: of officials. It made me wonder, like, you know, guys

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Speaker 4: immediately get get fine, whether it's a coach, whether it's

553
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Speaker 4: a player, and doing so, like what what does that like,

554
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Speaker 4: you know, where did that come from? What does that achieve?

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Speaker 4: Like you can you could probably criticize another coach, get

556
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Speaker 4: away with it. You could criticize another player from the

557
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Speaker 4: other team, get away with it. But if you say

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Speaker 4: anything about officials, it's like you're going to get a

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Speaker 4: real stiff penalty coming your way based off of that?

560
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Speaker 4: Why was that established? Was it just you know, based

561
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Speaker 4: upon don't question the calls, just just deal with it,

562
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Speaker 4: Like where do you have an idea where that even

563
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Speaker 4: came from? The whole finding rect to this?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, it goes back before my time. But

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Speaker 6: I think that's pretty It's standard, and that's across all sports,

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Speaker 6: and I get it. I get it to some extent

567
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Speaker 6: where you want to maintain the credibility of your officials.

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Speaker 6: You don't want players to just be able to coaches

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Speaker 6: or whatever, to just be able to say whatever they want,

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Speaker 6: because because I think that that you can take it

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Speaker 6: too far. I do think that we've you know, it's

572
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Speaker 6: you guys know it's better than me. It's an emotional

573
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Speaker 6: game at that level, especially Bigger's coming off a tough loss.

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Speaker 6: There weren't look there was you know, there was a

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Speaker 6: tripping call. They missed on a big you know, it's

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Speaker 6: a big drive at the end of the game, should

577
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Speaker 6: have been a first down. He's frustrated and he speaks

578
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Speaker 6: his mind, and yeah, we'll probably will be a fine

579
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Speaker 6: because that's the policy. I do. You know, I do

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Speaker 6: think that there's a way. You know, I don't think

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Speaker 6: the league should every time somebody mentioned officiating. I think

582
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Speaker 6: you can. You can do it thoughtfully and do it

583
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Speaker 6: without being you know, disrespectful. It's just it's a tough deal.

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Speaker 6: And uh, you know, I would imagine they're gonna They're

585
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Speaker 6: probably gonna find them. You know. They suspended Drake Greenlaw

586
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Speaker 6: for for going after the official after the game in Denver,

587
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 6: which was crazy, which no one even knew about until yesterday,

588
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 6: and they announced it and then the videos are popping

589
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Speaker 6: up on social media. So I get protecting the officials

590
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Speaker 6: and protecting their credibility, but also on the other side,

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00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 6: and I lived this, the league goes too far in

592
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Speaker 6: terms of isolating and insulating the officiating and not being transparent.

593
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 6: And that's a problem because then people are going to

594
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Speaker 6: be like, you know, what is going on, and then

595
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 6: you get the conspiracy theories and you get all the

596
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Speaker 6: other stuff that we see.

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Speaker 2: He is Dean Blandino joining us here on Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports NFL college football rules analysts with us here

599
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. So one

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Speaker 2: of the things that you mentioned this and kind of

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Speaker 2: alluded to it was, is there enough to overturn it?

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Speaker 2: And I think that's a really fair way to look

603
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Speaker 2: at some of these close calls, whether you're watching you know,

604
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Speaker 2: major League Baseball, and there's a play at second base

605
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: or a play at the Plate's like, yeah, but is

606
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: there enough there to overturn it? Even if it looks

607
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: slightly like you could, is there enough there? And I

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Speaker 2: say all that to say this, what did they see

609
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Speaker 2: in the TJ. Hawkinson catch and then no catch that

610
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Speaker 2: made them overturn that call? Because I cannot find any

611
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Speaker 2: angle anywhere where it looks like there was enough there

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Speaker 2: to overturn a touchdown catch to an incomplete pass.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, And I was we were watching the

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Speaker 6: game before, we were watching red Zone before our game

615
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Speaker 6: in Dallas and watching that play, and it was and

616
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Speaker 6: we all said, look, we're up in the boothrom like,

617
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Speaker 6: that's too close. You know, it did my I think

618
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Speaker 6: what they saw was Hogginson's going to the ground. As

619
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Speaker 6: he hits the ground, he kind of starts to roll

620
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Speaker 6: over and the ball touches the ground, and then they

621
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Speaker 6: ruled that it came loose at that point. He still

622
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Speaker 6: has to hold on to it when he hits the ground.

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Speaker 6: I just thought that was another one. And again it's like,

624
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 6: is the evidence, you know, eighty five percent, ninety percent,

625
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Speaker 6: even ninety nine point nine percent, it's got to be

626
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Speaker 6: one hundred percent. And so to me, that was just

627
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Speaker 6: one of those where if everybody is questioning why why, why?

628
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 6: Then how can it be clear and obvious? Right? And

629
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Speaker 6: unless it's just a rule thing that people don't understand,

630
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 6: But that wasn't the case. And again it's just that's

631
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Speaker 6: and obviously, you know he was frustrated, and rightfully so.

632
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Speaker 6: But and I've made those I've lived that when I

633
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 6: early in my career, where I could convince myself of

634
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Speaker 6: something and then I try to explain it to people.

635
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 6: I go, man, I'm explaining this for ten minutes, how

636
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 6: would that jump out player? And obvious?

637
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Speaker 5: It just isn't.

638
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Speaker 6: And I think that's that's part of the issue right now.

639
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Speaker 5: All right, I've got one for you. Because so much

640
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 5: is made of the toush push and the play everything else. Well,

641
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Speaker 5: what was interesting this week though, is we saw Christian

642
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Speaker 5: McCaffrey with that game sealing touchdown versus Atlanta on Sunday night,

643
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Speaker 5: getting pulled into the end zone. And so I guess

644
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Speaker 5: my question is because I think what was that. Terry

645
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Speaker 5: McCauley came on later said that it should have been

646
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Speaker 5: helping the runner, which is illegal, Like so we can't

647
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Speaker 5: we can push it, we can't pull him. I mean,

648
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Speaker 5: at what point do we kind of just draw the line,

649
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Speaker 5: like why are we able to keep that rule in

650
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Speaker 5: the playbook even though we can't officiate the push or

651
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Speaker 5: we couldn't so we changed it, but we can officiate

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Speaker 5: the poll like it just it's like it should be

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Speaker 5: all in or all out on aiding the run. Is

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Speaker 5: that the easiest way we could do this?

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Speaker 6: Agree? This is all This goes back to like mid

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Speaker 6: two thousands when and look it hasn't been called, and

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Speaker 6: it was like the fish was like, it's so tough.

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Speaker 6: You got a pile, who's you know? Are you pushing

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Speaker 6: the pile? Are you pushing your teammate? Are you pushing

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Speaker 6: the runner? And so they got rid of the push language.

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Speaker 6: But but it's lift if a runner is on the

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Speaker 6: ground and you come and lift him up off the

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Speaker 6: ground or you pull him to gain additionally yards, that's

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Speaker 6: still remained a foul in the rule book. It hasn't

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Speaker 6: been called in the NFL since like the ninety three

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Speaker 6: or night, I don't even know. So it's it's something that, yes,

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Speaker 6: it is hard, but there are a lot of things

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Speaker 6: out there that are hard to or difficult to officiate.

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Speaker 6: So I don't think that's the reason. To me, it's

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Speaker 6: just put it in, you know, in terms of all

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Speaker 6: the all the push to pull, all the aiding the runner,

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Speaker 6: just take it out with put the rule rule book

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Speaker 6: language in teach the officials call it a couple of times,

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Speaker 6: and yeah, you're going to call that once at the

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Speaker 6: goal line, and now you go from a touchdown to

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Speaker 6: you know whatever it is, second and goal at the twelve.

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Speaker 6: That's that's teams won't won't do it, and that's that's

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Speaker 6: the hope that they can get it done in the

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Speaker 6: off season.

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Speaker 4: How many variations of the same type of calls? Like

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Speaker 4: do you get complaints on like weekly? Like is it

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Speaker 4: new variations or is it all the same? Like how

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Speaker 4: does it come your way? In terms of questions you're asked,

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Speaker 4: because I mean, in theory, there can only be so

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Speaker 4: many things that could take place within the parameters of

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Speaker 4: a gang, right, Like do do you find yourself getting

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Speaker 4: a wide array of a perspective on how calls are

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Speaker 4: being made and how officiating is taking place, or is

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Speaker 4: it a narrow like is it a more narrow scope

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Speaker 4: of these plays are jacked up or holding or pass

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Speaker 4: interference that you know, stuff like that.

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Speaker 6: Well, I go back to when I was at the

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Speaker 6: league office and we get coaches questions and each team

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Speaker 6: could submit up to ten questions and you would get

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Speaker 6: it and you would go through it, and the majority

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Speaker 6: of questions from clubs was about holding offensive holding, because

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Speaker 6: it is very subjective. There's there's you know, the old

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Speaker 6: thing you call holding on every play. I don't think

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Speaker 6: that's true, but there is an opportunity to call holding

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Speaker 6: on every play because offensive linemen use their hands and

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Speaker 6: grab and do different things, so that looked like holding,

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Speaker 6: and so offensive holding was always the most frequent question.

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Speaker 6: I think as an analyst and people that text me

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Speaker 6: and ask questions, I think pass different this is always something,

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Speaker 6: even offensive past difference. I think that's something that people,

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Speaker 6: even and the officials. It's the most missed call every

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Speaker 6: year you do an analysis, and the one the official

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Speaker 6: struggle with most historically is offensive past difference because it's

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Speaker 6: so hard, because it's the deep is the defender initiating

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Speaker 6: the contact, is the receiver running around? Is the receiver

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Speaker 6: you know, is the receiver extending the arms? All needs

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Speaker 6: to push off all these different things. So it is

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Speaker 6: I get questions about everything. But typically when my phone

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Speaker 6: blows up, it's like usually the big stuff that people

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Speaker 6: are like, what the heck is going on? Like last

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Speaker 6: night with you know, the ott and play and then

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Speaker 6: the challenge where they went back and looked at it again,

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Speaker 6: those types of things. But it does, it does kind of.

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Speaker 6: I get a lot. It's a smorts sport.

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Speaker 2: He used the great Dean Blandino, Fox Sports NFL College

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Speaker 2: football rules analyst, get him hunt.

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Speaker 4: At mortgage.

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Speaker 2: Dean tremendous is always. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: I have a great day, you have a great date day.

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Speaker 6: I'll leave you guys with a challenge for the rest

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Speaker 6: of your time on the air today. How many times

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Speaker 6: can you say smortgage board?

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Speaker 2: Okay, a mortgage Well, that is a challenge even saying it. Dean,

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Speaker 2: we appreciate it. We'll do it again next week. There

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Speaker 2: is a great Dean Blandino with us here on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5: By the way, that's a word you're going to stay

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Speaker 5: away from Huhard