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Speaker 1: We gotta do.

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Speaker 2: Mike Sech.

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Speaker 1: Big Glow, what do you do? How are you? Man?

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Speaker 2: I'm great? How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm blessed, black and Holly famous. You know, before I

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Speaker 3: do these conversations, I like to send an attention. So

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Speaker 3: my intention for this conversation is for people to listen

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Speaker 3: to this interview and then go listen to your music

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Speaker 3: with a different ear so they can recognize the anointing

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Speaker 3: that God has on Gloria Hallelujah Ward's life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's the intention. Now.

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Speaker 3: I know h negative tweets we having an impact on you,

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Speaker 3: but I'm gonna read you a positive tweet somebody said

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Speaker 3: about you.

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Speaker 1: I had a young lady named Julia Brown.

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Speaker 3: Sugar Baker posted a video working out the whole on

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Speaker 3: and she said, I need Glorilla to write a devotional

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Speaker 3: book of daily affirmations. She says Glow makes her feel

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Speaker 3: like she's a young person and reminds her that I

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Speaker 3: can do all things through Christ.

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Speaker 1: That is how do you receive that when you hear it?

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Speaker 2: I love seeing stuff like this like oh wow, I

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Speaker 2: really like I speak of certain message to you to

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Speaker 2: make you feel like this like it make me feel

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Speaker 2: great and.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you realize how much Gloriala music I

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Speaker 3: listened to. And one thing I've grown to understand about

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Speaker 3: you is there is a difference between Gloriala the rapper

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Speaker 3: and Gloria Hallelujah Woods. But Gloria Hallelujah be popping up too,

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Speaker 3: and she be rapping as well. So what's the difference

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Speaker 2: I ain't gonna say it's a hurge difference. It ain't

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Speaker 2: a hurge difference. But I'm gonna say, like, I'm just

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent aggressive. It like straight talking shit when

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Speaker 2: I rap. You know what I'm saying, it's straight like,

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Speaker 2: but in real life, I'm like, ask you a nice.

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Speaker 1: Put it full south.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So the hostelity, you know, I'm just I'm cooler,

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Speaker 2: like I ain't as mean like people think, like how

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Speaker 2: I rap? I'm agressed with this how I am? But

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Speaker 2: I'm actually nice.

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Speaker 3: A lot of artists, man, you know, they put out

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Speaker 3: projects before their debut album, and they put out so

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Speaker 3: comes out, there's really no difference. With you, I can

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Speaker 3: hear the elevation of the art, so what was your

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Speaker 3: approach to me Glorious your debut album Special.

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Speaker 2: It was just like, so I had dropped my EP,

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Speaker 2: of course, and then it was like last year I

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Speaker 2: was working on my album and it's like I was

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Speaker 2: just overthinking it a lot, like because I know I

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Speaker 2: wanted it to be big, this could be my first album,

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Speaker 2: and I kind of got out track a little bit.

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Speaker 2: And then that's when I made my mixtape because I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: that put me back on track to where I needed

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Speaker 1: That's the everything. Everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, so when I dropped everything, everything, he just

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Speaker 2: gave me, like he gave me my confidence back, sleek glass,

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Speaker 2: my confidence a little bit. And then I was just like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: when I make this album, I got to touch different subjects.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like I don't just want

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Speaker 2: same shit, Like I want to talk about different things

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Speaker 2: in the happen.

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Speaker 3: Did you lose your confidence because of what other people

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, like I was trying to I was overthinking

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Speaker 3: In the intro, you say, be humble, that kacky shit

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Speaker 3: take you down. Now, did you have a moment when

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Speaker 2: I ain't never gee cocky like I really wanted talking

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Speaker 2: where I was just kaky, like got my nose through

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Speaker 2: and stuff like kind of got cocked tour like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know on me, but like not the other type

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Speaker 1: You're talking to other people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Now in the Last Dance, right, Michael Jordan

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Speaker 3: takes a lot of things personal and it motivates HM.

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Speaker 1: You've seen the last nas the Michael Jordan like, man,

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Speaker 1: oh you need to watch it. He takes he takes

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Speaker 3: And you posted how you booked Mark the tweet of

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Speaker 1: Put a battery in your back.

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Speaker 3: What did you feel in that moment and how did

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Speaker 3: you use that from that tweet to your advantage?

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Speaker 2: Because for a minute. I ain't think it could happen

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Speaker 2: because I know my ability, my rapping ability, and so

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Speaker 2: so y'all playing with me, I'm gonna show you like

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Speaker 2: I'm the like person. I like to prove people wrong

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Speaker 2: and I like to show people like, this is what

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Speaker 1: Why do you think they felt like that so fast though?

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Speaker 3: Because I saw one person tweet from like made to

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Speaker 3: like it was only like no Vember, it was on

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Speaker 3: like five or six, once you had been up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Why they wanted you to fall so bad? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think they speak kind of do that to almost everybody,

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Speaker 2: especially female artists. I don't know why, but they wanted

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Speaker 1: Is it true that you are home school until the

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Speaker 1: fifth grade? Why?

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Speaker 2: Because my mama wanted us to She ain't want us

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Speaker 2: wanted to keep us like. My mama was like she

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Speaker 2: a super Christian and so yeah, she ain't want us

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Speaker 3: And you got with nine siblings, right, all of them

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Speaker 2: No, like she named a lot of those names out

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Speaker 2: And she was like this our lad child, and she

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Speaker 3: Did that put a lot of pressure on you when

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Speaker 3: you were young to like always try to be perfect?

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Speaker 2: M M. Now I knew I want no bad was perfect.

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Speaker 1: You knew that early, you know.

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Speaker 3: Also in the intro you also say police pulled me over,

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Speaker 3: on you say, yeah, you make mistakes, but don't nothing

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Speaker 3: the d uy What did that that moment teach you?

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Speaker 2: What I said in the song?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, did you know that in that moment?

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Speaker 3: Know what in the moment, like then you knew in

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Speaker 3: that moment like Okay, I'm about this was a mistake,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I really can't speak too much on there

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Speaker 3: Oh all right, okay, you said at the end of

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Speaker 3: the intro you love criticism, Yeah, and people always make

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Speaker 1: So how have you learned to deal with critics and

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Speaker 2: Prove them wrong? Give you time because they're gonna always

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Speaker 2: come back around and hop back on the train every time.

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Speaker 2: Like a lot of time when the hate come, it

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Speaker 2: be bandwagon hate, Like they only hate you because the

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Speaker 2: next person I.

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Speaker 3: Don't even know if they really be actually listening to

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Speaker 3: the music for real. Are they just get on social

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Speaker 3: and then they like, you know.

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Speaker 1: What, let me let me let me get get involved

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Speaker 1: with the with the mob real quick. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I love how one hold on you say you popping

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Speaker 3: it so hard because you ain't used to ship.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever think you will get to a point

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Speaker 1: where you get you to this life?

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Speaker 2: I still ain't got used to it is now, Like

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Speaker 2: I still certain shit happened. I'd be like, Wow, this

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Speaker 2: that's why I like, I just be like stunning the

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Speaker 2: it is doing on. Like I knew I had a dream.

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Speaker 2: I knew it was a possibility, but I didn't know

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Speaker 3: You seem like the type of person like that that

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Speaker 1: Do Yeah, what you want your life to be?

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Speaker 2: What are you can manifest? And when it really happen,

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Speaker 2: Really are you?

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Speaker 1: Are you talking about the level that you're at right now? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean to be honest, you're doing you're doing some

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Speaker 3: white people shit too. You on these late night shows

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Speaker 2: It's just big all around, Like I never imagine this

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Speaker 2: is going on. Yeah, Like I knew I was gonna

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Speaker 3: You got a record with a lot of called procedure.

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Speaker 3: Are men really trying to trap you and get you pregnant?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 1: How do you handle that.

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Speaker 2: One?

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Speaker 1: That's crazy?

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Speaker 3: So you really in the record you said that you

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Speaker 3: might get your tub side.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you don't really mean that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but like I do want to have kids, but

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Speaker 2: not my own kids, Like I want to do the surroguit. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I want somebody else to have my baby. I want

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Speaker 2: them to have my DNA, but I don't want to have.

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Speaker 1: It, Like that's mot why just because your career just.

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Speaker 2: You just I just don't want to actually have a baby.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, what did you see somebody have a bad experience?

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Speaker 1: That means you feel like I don't want to.

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Speaker 2: Like all my friends got kids and they just like

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Speaker 2: they can't do it. They restricted a lot. I mean

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Speaker 2: they priggy and I'm like, no, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: go through that.

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Speaker 1: Or it's just for not much.

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Speaker 2: This is too long.

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Speaker 3: You said a month before you blew up, you were

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Speaker 3: still swiping cards, wasn't that you? Yeah, you don't want

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Speaker 3: to expound nothing. What What did a lot of mean

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Speaker 3: on the record when she said talking about taking spots. Kresha, Please,

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Speaker 2: Okay, so for me and I was like, I want

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Speaker 3: Did you have to talk to Kirk and all of

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Speaker 2: Uh, none of my people had said this song? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: What made you want to do a full on gospel record?

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Speaker 2: Because I always wanted to do one, and then my

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Speaker 2: that was like the perfect one. Like that song I

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Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, was it was? It was it difficult to

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Speaker 2: Like everything that I said on there. I actually felt

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Speaker 1: And the church was was a major part of your upbringing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and like you said, your your mother was super

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Speaker 3: So when you was creating this record, did you say, Man,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I if I want to mix this,

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Speaker 2: Nah, because I know like it's bald. When I just

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 1: No, glorious?

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Speaker 3: So the other two artists of Shan Lamore and Kiera Shid,

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: I didn't like Kirk Franklin brought it together, but when

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Speaker 1: What did your mama say?

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Speaker 2: My mama she heard, she ain't hear the finished product

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Speaker 1: Did you tell him at least yep?

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Speaker 3: Now, Also on Rain Down, you say you tell the

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Speaker 3: But you said even though he hate me, Lord, watch

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Speaker 1: I want to tell.

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Speaker 2: I was speaking for the people that do get them

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Speaker 3: Person is you know that's gonna confuse people. Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 2: A lot of people do that. But yeah, it's just

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Speaker 3: Okay, right now, you know somebody gonna pop up on

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Speaker 1: I ain't got no kid glows prayer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, why are you holding up God's prayer line? Praying

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Speaker 1: What's what's that?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So a long time ago when I forgot my

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Speaker 1: Look at it? Did it work? Don't lie? Now? After

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Speaker 2: Not after the first prayer? You know you gotta eventually

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Speaker 1: How many times you mess with them after you prayer?

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Speaker 1: The first time?

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Speaker 2: I can't remember.

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Speaker 3: Now you answered your own question on that record too,

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Speaker 3: because you said it's your tasting men that you need

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Speaker 3: Do you understand that that you yeah? Okay, when did

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Speaker 2: That ain't she once? I don't know why I liked them,

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Speaker 1: I did you know what the person that is shit?

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Speaker 3: Because you can't you can't say it's because of their

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Speaker 3: background You can't say it's because of what they do,

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Speaker 2: It ain't about their career, just like what the them

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Speaker 1: Did you ever think it was anything internal with me? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, I ain't never the problem.

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Speaker 2: You know, real ain't the problem though.

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Speaker 1: Never You ain't never ever been a problem in the relationship.

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Speaker 2: No, because anytime I'd be like, so what what what

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Speaker 2: I need? What I need to do? They never ain't

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Speaker 1: Because at that point they just ready to leave it

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Speaker 1: Now we just don't never be me. I don't believe it.

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Speaker 3: Now, everything everything you describe yourself as the Memphis choir

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Speaker 1: Did you ever sing the trust quae? Really? Yes?

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Speaker 1: I got another question about everything is everything? Because I

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Speaker 2: That's you got you Gotta say anything everything thing.

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Speaker 3: Was that a tough record to record because the song

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Speaker 1: Going on in that mirror a lot. Was it very hard?

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Speaker 2: That was actually easither like the songs that I'm really

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Speaker 3: So so those are the easier records to wreck. So

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Speaker 2: Now they be easy too, like because I just really

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Speaker 1: Really be in you.

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Speaker 3: They don't want to be theirself. I think that's when

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Speaker 3: early when you were saying that you, yeah, had got stuck.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was just trying to go big, Like

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Speaker 1: Why Like what was you looking at?

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Speaker 3: That means you say, man, I need to I need

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Speaker 1: Keep doing what you was doing and build it up?

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Speaker 2: Because I feel like when I first started, I went

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Speaker 3: It truly it took you thirty minutes to write for

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Speaker 3: Nikka Free and then you shot the video the same

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Speaker 3: day the.

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Speaker 2: Next day, now I want the next day?

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Speaker 1: How did she go?

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Speaker 2: Damn? There was a little minute ago. I recorded the

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Speaker 3: The shit just took off thirty minutes change your life, yep,

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Speaker 3: So why not just kick that mentality the way?

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Speaker 1: It's like, you know what, I'm just gonna keep everything organic.

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Speaker 2: That's what I done, got too. I done got back

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Speaker 2: to it now, Okay, I had lost it at first.

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Speaker 2: Then I had to come back to it.

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Speaker 1: Who got you back to it? Your people?

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Speaker 3: It's like, you know the label, Like what did they

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Speaker 2: It was myself and like I said the fan, the criticism,

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Speaker 2: it made me go back to it made you go

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Speaker 2: And I used to talk to God. He would tell

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Speaker 2: me to stop overthinking this shit too.

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00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,600
Speaker 3: Made Meg's on the album with the song how I Look,

450
00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,320
Speaker 3: Yeah you gotta line I.

451
00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,399
Speaker 1: Love you say, just drove by the cemetery. It's plenty

452
00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:40,080
Speaker 1: room for holes.

453
00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,000
Speaker 3: You were making this study, it seemed to become like

454
00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,080
Speaker 3: really close during your tour together. Do you feel like

455
00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,720
Speaker 3: that experience of love and acceptance was made Is the

456
00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,560
Speaker 3: norm with women in the rap game?

457
00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,240
Speaker 1: Are they usually more conflict.

458
00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,760
Speaker 2: I feel like if she genuine, then it's just gonna happen. Like,

459
00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,359
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of she'd be fake, you know,

460
00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,119
Speaker 2: just industry relationships. But being on tour Meg and she

461
00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,239
Speaker 2: didn't hang around her like even now, she'll call me

462
00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,119
Speaker 2: every other day or text me and I'll do the

463
00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,560
Speaker 2: same to her and it's just genuine. It ain't forced

464
00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,560
Speaker 2: or nothing like that. And so I just feel like,

465
00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,760
Speaker 2: if he's genuine, then it ain't gonna be no conflict.

466
00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,120
Speaker 1: I did that relationship first developed.

467
00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,320
Speaker 2: My head went to her. Uh, she had a no okay,

468
00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:22,920
Speaker 2: So I went to a Halloween party. That was the

469
00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,800
Speaker 2: first time I met her, and then I went to

470
00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,080
Speaker 2: her like Nike and release party. It was around her birthday,

471
00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,520
Speaker 2: and then that same week we went to the studio.

472
00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,600
Speaker 1: It's that same way. Yeah, how many songs y'all record?

473
00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,520
Speaker 2: We had recorded too? We recorded or want to be

474
00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,000
Speaker 2: in her song Accent. We recorded Accent first and then

475
00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,520
Speaker 2: we did want to Be second, and then we just

476
00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:43,520
Speaker 2: put them jump out.

477
00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,600
Speaker 1: How was the experience of the tour? What did you

478
00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,080
Speaker 1: What did you learn on that tour?

479
00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,320
Speaker 2: It was like I was already in up in the

480
00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,480
Speaker 2: midst of building my company because I was going I

481
00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,080
Speaker 2: was in gym ay day, I still be in gym

482
00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,840
Speaker 2: may day and she and then like my performance just

483
00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,720
Speaker 2: got better than shit. Yeah, it was just like, did

484
00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:02,480
Speaker 2: I guess.

485
00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,359
Speaker 1: Just make somebody that you like can go to for

486
00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,480
Speaker 1: advice and you know, just help guide you through this game?

487
00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like cern she that I asked her about it,

488
00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,600
Speaker 2: She will let me know. She'll tell me about it.

489
00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,239
Speaker 1: What about a card because I know Cardi is your

490
00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,439
Speaker 1: blood cousin. Do y'all kick it? Does she give you

491
00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,880
Speaker 1: advice on how to navigate through this industry?

492
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? I be calling Carded sometime. We be talking about

493
00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:24,920
Speaker 2: stuff and she would give me like little too.

494
00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,960
Speaker 3: I love card When when you see her like going

495
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,480
Speaker 3: off about her relationship, do you call her and try

496
00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:30,359
Speaker 3: to talk her off the ledge?

497
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,640
Speaker 2: Nah? Because you know you gotta let it out sometime.

498
00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,600
Speaker 1: You know, you don't think people be giving social media

499
00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:38,040
Speaker 1: too much.

500
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,640
Speaker 2: I mean to each his own, like, you know, if

501
00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,280
Speaker 2: she feels like this whole way of letting it out,

502
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:44,600
Speaker 2: did that's what she gotta do?

503
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,639
Speaker 3: The reason I asked that though, because you clearly have

504
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,960
Speaker 3: no problem calling your friends and telling them the man

505
00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,160
Speaker 3: they would don't deserve them. Yeah, you got to sew

506
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,640
Speaker 3: much money. Long phenomenal record by the way, called her

507
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:55,320
Speaker 3: Don't Deserve.

508
00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, what inspired that record?

509
00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,880
Speaker 2: Because I go through a lot. I haven't been through

510
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,720
Speaker 2: a lot of shit with relationships, and then I had

511
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,320
Speaker 2: friends like that I learned she from and their relationships

512
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:06,879
Speaker 2: and they be going through stuff and I'd be like,

513
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,119
Speaker 2: you all got to go through there, like he ain't

514
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 2: even he shouldn't even be the one taking you through there.

515
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 2: And so I just they gave me an idea to

516
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 2: make a song about it.

517
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,640
Speaker 3: The tone feels, uh, it feels similar to like Eve

518
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 3: Love is Blind.

519
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, was that like an inspirationion for that record?

520
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, because once I was making the record, I was like,

521
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 2: mm ain't nobody made another record like that like Eve

522
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 2: did with this song. So yeah, they gave me.

523
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,919
Speaker 1: I love this song man who put you onto all

524
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 1: that old music?

525
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,320
Speaker 3: Because then you got a bar and the glorious album

526
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 3: You see t I serious and that's like a reference

527
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,920
Speaker 3: said and you say something like but he said, he

528
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 3: said he want to see the pussy cream, So cash rules,

529
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 3: that's wu Tang. Then just got the love his blind

530
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,199
Speaker 3: tone like who puts you on all of that? You

531
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:51,639
Speaker 3: know that classic music.

532
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 2: My parents, oh by my daddy seventy three. My mama

533
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 2: seeks the one.

534
00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's super Christian, but she know the mirrors hip

535
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 1: hop and the hut yeah.

536
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 2: Okay not not not like the hip hop that was

537
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 2: on TV like you want on six and Park type

538
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 2: of hip hop. Yeah, and my mama lively ts. My

539
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 2: mama ts. But yeah, you know, I got an old family.

540
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 1: Like until your older siblings and everybody was like they.

541
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 2: Falled in in their thirties and stuff. So I know

542
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 2: a lot about old schools.

543
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 3: So when you was a jit, there was you heard

544
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,719
Speaker 3: all of that. Growing up, got you got you? Has

545
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 3: your mom met you yet? Have you been that happening?

546
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,199
Speaker 2: I faced I saw ta in the airport in Atlanta

547
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 2: one day, and I face my.

548
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,120
Speaker 1: MoMA and let her see and what she said.

549
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 2: So you know how how your mama be when they

550
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 2: in the bed and they ain't got their stuff together,

551
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 2: they be like right, She was like this.

552
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 3: Also on the record, though, Deserve, you said, we all

553
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 3: been stupid for these niggas. Once upon a time, those

554
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 3: red flags be looking green, but we get color blind.

555
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 1: How do you know when a flag is actually red

556
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 1: and not green?

557
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 2: This cooler bland faught like because you don't know like

558
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 2: they be. They be putting on like a little masquerade

559
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 2: looking like they something when it's when they when it's

560
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 2: not it. And so you got to, you know what

561
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 2: I'm saying, dive deep into and it. Then you'll realize

562
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 2: whole person really is.

563
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: You think you got it all figured out.

564
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 2: Now I ain't got it all figured out.

565
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you still get colored black every time now, like.

566
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 2: I'm really still now like I don't like I don't

567
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 2: follow to deep in nothing no more. Yeah, yeah, like

568
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 2: I don't put my isle into nothing.

569
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 1: Can red flags turn green?

570
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 2: Can red flags turn green? No? As far as you

571
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 2: puck up on, you let a red flag or red

572
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 2: fleg slat, and then you're just gonna get worse. It's

573
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 2: gonna turn to a lot on.

574
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: Can a green flag turn ray? You think it's a

575
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 1: gold and it's nope?

576
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 3: Stop maybe oh no, don't deserve you tell your friend

577
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 3: you say, don't let them cheat on you, don't let

578
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 3: them beat on you, and then on, uh, I ain't

579
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 3: going you speak to that. You also seem like you

580
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 3: speak to theme with the domestic violence as well, because

581
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 3: you say I ain't going for all that rough me

582
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 3: up and grabbed me by my neck. Nigga put his

583
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 3: hands on me. Nigga put his hands on me. We're

584
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 3: gonna be smoking on him next.

585
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

586
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 3: I love the fact you're raising domestic violence awaitness, But

587
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 3: it seems like you had a lot of experience with it.

588
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: Are you know people who.

589
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 2: Have yeah, both of them. Yeah, Like I ain't never

590
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 2: like I didn't been in like a free situation, but

591
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 2: I ain't. Dang, it was just been too bad, Like,

592
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 2: oh my god, it's a continuous thing because like I

593
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 2: don't play it, but it seem like a few of

594
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 2: my friends go through it and it be a continuous thing,

595
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 2: and shit, they're just a song for it, so they

596
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 2: can know, like not to go for it.

597
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 1: You did.

598
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 3: You did a lot of justice to wipe me down too.

599
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 3: It's hard to remake those Negro spirituals, but you put

600
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 3: your own thing on it. What gave you the confidence

601
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 3: to touch down.

602
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 2: On the beat when the beat came and stuff? It

603
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 2: was just like you just gotta be you gotta be good.

604
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 2: You can't mess with no classic.

605
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 3: Did you reach out to Busy to get his to

606
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 3: get his blessing or you just did it and let

607
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 3: him hear it.

608
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 2: Boosie was in the video. He heard the song.

609
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 3: I'm talking talking before I know he was a video,

610
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 3: but before you just recorded it.

611
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 2: Oh no, he heard it when I hear put the

612
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 2: snippet on. Uh well, I was on lab and I

613
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 2: hear preview.

614
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 3: Did you make sure he get paid? He be talking

615
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 3: about everybody sampling. Can you talk about everybody sampling his

616
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 3: music and not paying him? Did you make sure he

617
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 3: got Oh?

618
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: He good? Okay, what made you want to put sexy

619
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 1: on it? Just to do the clap?

620
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: Y'all always you know the world been on the meet

621
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 2: in the six Rid collab and she's so we had

622
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 2: to make that happen. And then I was like, okay,

623
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: this is a fun song. This is not like something

624
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 2: she would get on because we ate. I ain't gonna

625
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 2: say that, but yeah, what're you about say?

626
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: Y'all ack like nah nothing, But you know my niece

627
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,239
Speaker 1: is a DJ nowllars some more.

628
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 3: And she said that when you're in the club now

629
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 3: you gotta play your sexy red set. You gotta play

630
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 3: a glow real estet. So I guess you're right you said,

631
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 3: because y'all did a record together. So now she got

632
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 3: she said, she's good that y'all did a record together

633
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 3: because she can put it in there in that rotation

634
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 3: with y'all.

635
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: M yep. So what I would finishing was it was

636
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: in the studio working on something and we actually did

637
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 2: another song, and so I'm like, oh, you know what,

638
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 2: I hear you on this long like because she had

639
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 2: to go to a show. I'm like, okay, I'm just

640
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: gonna send it. See you when you just get on this.

641
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 2: And then she did her verse.

642
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: Somebody told me, y'all doing the album together.

643
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 2: That's true? Oh who told you that?

644
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: All the what the hell? I heard that?

645
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 2: It may it cometry one day, but you know one

646
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 2: days like a mixtape, it maybe can be a mixtape,

647
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 2: but we we don't any started day and how many

648
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: I don't know who.

649
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 3: It's an album coming sex and you read Lauryla album

650
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 3: coming soon now crop top with some bike and shorts

651
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 3: showing off my moose knuckle uh my.

652
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: Man and nave Green.

653
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 3: He took a picture with him at Drew Ski's festival,

654
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 3: and he said in his capture on Instagram, big Glow

655
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 3: wasn't lying knuckle for damn show. Hashtag moose knuckle Monday.

656
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 3: I feel like your moose knuggle is gonna have its

657
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 3: own Instagram page. So and I never heard a woman

658
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 3: own their moose knuggle the way that you have. When

659
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 3: did that start?

660
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: Oh?

661
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 2: Okay, So I ain't on that, Like when I be

662
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: posting certain pictures, like I really got it from the

663
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 2: fans to like they'd be like, damn, you got a

664
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 2: moo snuckle on you, And so I'm like I just

665
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: took like they say it all the time. And so

666
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: while I was rapping because the line I said, do nothing,

667
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, what around with it? Do nothing?

668
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: That?

669
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: Like move snug? I'm like, fucking I'm say it like

670
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: because they always be saying it about me. And so

671
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: that's how that ball came about.

672
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: It own everything about you? Why not? Why not?

673
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: There's a hopefulness I think I believe in an optimism,

674
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 3: you know, and a faith in God and so many

675
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 3: of your lyrics if people are really paying attention, if

676
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 3: someone counted how many times you reference God on Glorious,

677
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 3: it would be.

678
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: A whole lot.

679
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

680
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 3: So I know you know who your family, right, but

681
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 3: who else instilled that in you? Especially coming from you know,

682
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 3: a city like Memphis, because city Memphis was just recently

683
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 3: ring like the number one most dangerous city in America.

684
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 3: So who gives you that sense of optimism to say,

685
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 3: you know what, I can make it out of a

686
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 3: treacherous city like this.

687
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 2: It was a lot of churches and mean because you

688
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 2: know them. It's like Memphis like and then you know

689
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 2: down south it's a lot of churches. So like I,

690
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 2: it was just how I grew up. My background just

691
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: church like even though we was in Memphis, it was

692
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: just still a church.

693
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 3: Did you know you wanted to make it out the

694
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: city or was your mindset like I want to get successful,

695
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: come back and maybe change change was going on.

696
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 2: I want to do that too, Like I for Show,

697
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: the goal is always to make it out, but I

698
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: for show on the one day, see if I can

699
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: make it better. It's a lot of work, but hopeful

700
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 2: the one day.

701
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: Have you always been just optimistic about life?

702
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: M h, of course you got to be.

703
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: How do you stay how you stay from being pessimistic?

704
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: He was a big.

705
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 3: Optimism is the opposite of pessimism. Pessimism mean, how do

706
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: you keep from just being negative and thinking everything's gonna

707
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 3: be bad? And you know the sky is falling.

708
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: Honestly, I always preper for the worst. I pray for

709
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 2: the bits, but always I'm always a praying for the worst.

710
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: But you know, you just can't walk around negative and

711
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: shit or negative. Sheit gonna happen, but you gotta preper

712
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: for But you just can't just be negative.

713
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 3: Even at this stage of your life right now, you

714
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 3: like you feel like something bad to be happening.

715
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 2: You know, some shit always don't come out come out

716
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 2: the blue like nothing. It's gonna be rainy days all

717
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: the time. But you know, you just gotta pray. That's

718
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 2: how I deal with it. I just pray, stay prayed.

719
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: Up every day. That's not won't shine. But that's right.

720
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 3: Uh, there's there's always a conversation about like artists who

721
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 3: get to a certain level of success, they got to

722
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 3: leave their hometown because that's what they hate can be

723
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 3: the strongest.

724
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: What are your views on that?

725
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't get to I mean, but I

726
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: used to always think before I blew up, I used

727
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: to say, I need to see more of the world

728
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: other than Memphis, so like I can have more to

729
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: rap about. So that's what they mean by that. I understand,

730
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: because like, if we're only in Memphis, we're gonna only

731
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: wrap about the sheep to go on there. So you

732
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: have to go out in the world and experience most

733
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: shep to have more sheep to talk about.

734
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: Have you have you moved that Memphis right? Yeah?

735
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 2: I live in them.

736
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: Is it just better for your music career? Because Memphis

737
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: popper Right now?

738
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 3: I think Memphis and Detroit might be the yeah best

739
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 3: hip hop cities, and it's been like that for a

740
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 3: little minute.

741
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like I still go to me for sometime,

742
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: and I still keep my Memphis people around me, Like

743
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: even if I'm not in Memphis, my people did sprom

744
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: Memphis and still being means like they come around and

745
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 2: still keep me on game about anything.

746
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: What if you woke up on then and you lost

747
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: your accent and he wasn't seeing music.

748
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 2: They're gonna be crazy. I just gonna be crazy and

749
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: spoke because everybody say I got such a strong accents,

750
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: so I don't see me ever losing it. I'll be

751
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: trying to talk proper, but I still don't know how

752
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: to What is talking proper? Like how I'm trying to

753
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: do right now?

754
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: Why are trying to talk so the fuck what you?

755
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's going on? Back on stuff?

756
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: Like what's happened the thing on my back?

757
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: Or they put that little tape to make it tape?

758
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: What's something own her? Yeah, it's something back there?

759
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: Okay? Do you think.

760
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 3: Do you think it was harder coming up as a

761
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 3: female and Memphis then it might have been in another scene?

762
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: You know, now that I look back on it, like

763
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: it was, it wasn't really hard, like if you try

764
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: and it ain't that hard, like well getting it together,

765
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,959
Speaker 2: like because I used have to work to fund my

766
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: music career. But it really wasn't hard because I really

767
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: put my mind to it. Now that I think about it,

768
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 2: maybe at the time it was, but now that I

769
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: look back, I'm like, oh, I really was grinding to

770
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 2: get to where I was. And if you really want something,

771
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: it ain't gonna be that hard because it's gonna become

772
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: something you really won't. You know what I'm saying, It's

773
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: gonna be You know, what.

774
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: Was the grind? Did you?

775
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 3: Like, you know, make the music, go to the clubs,

776
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 3: make sure the DJ has had it, do this, do

777
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 3: the runs at the radio station like you did all

778
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 3: of that?

779
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I was just talking about this. I would

780
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: be in the club and shit, be I get two

781
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: turned off of some little liquor and some little you

782
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, little weed, I go pay the

783
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 2: DJ a little fifty one hundred dollars, I want fat

784
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: to play my song in the club and shit. And

785
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 2: then like I used to like open up for other artists,

786
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: pay to perform just so everybody else can see me.

787
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 2: I used to a lot of showcases and then you know,

788
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: just having to go to work and you have my

789
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: chick to pay for a marriage video or studio time.

790
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: So now I think about it, it was hard because

791
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: you know, you know what I'm saying, mother fulkers on't

792
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: having the money like that. But I really wanted it,

793
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: so we want it hard. And now that I'm around it,

794
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: you don't seem like it was hard.

795
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: So what was the big break? Like, like, what was

796
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: the moment where Gody or whoever was discovering.

797
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: You, you know, after I had fing else and it

798
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 2: had went viral and shit, and then all the labels

799
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: was calling, and shit, I was just going to label me,

800
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 2: to label me, to label me, and then got it

801
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: had been here.

802
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: Hit me up.

803
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 2: I don't know, I was just like I was like nervous,

804
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: I was scared. And then but when I actually had

805
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: linked over with him, and shit, it was like he

806
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: was the one that was talking the most sensible and

807
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 2: then actually it was genuine, like everybody else just weren't

808
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: really talking genuine. They didn't think I would make it

809
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: past Epanel and I was playing Tomorrow for them, like

810
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: they didn't know tomorrow would be that big. Like they

811
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: were just like okay, and they'll come with deals that

812
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: was so low and shit and like they really believe

813
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: and she but when out here pulled up on god it,

814
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: he didn't even wanted to hear He was like, we

815
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: ain't even talking about FNL no more, like I wanted

816
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 2: to hear the other music. And so I was on

817
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: the yacht, I hooked up to the OX and I

818
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: just played all my music and then yeah, was.

819
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: You were you intimidating?

820
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: What do you mean?

821
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: Like, because because it's got like yeah, yeah, And but

822
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: he would be the person I think that you would

823
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: relate to the most, cause he from.

824
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: I know, Yeah, that's what made it better because he

825
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: related to me more, and like it was like a

826
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: connection that didn't nobody else have when I was talking

827
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: to him. So when I talked to him, I felt

828
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: a better connection. But I was just like cook, everybody always,

829
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: everybody from me just want to sign that guy. So

830
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: I was just I was just nervous. I don't know

831
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: why I was nerves out nervous.

832
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: What other labels did you meet with? Because I mean,

833
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: now that I know you hate big words, he probably

834
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: was in the.

835
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: Me I don't hate you gotta say the like I don't.

836
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 3: Because I'm when you in these meetings. They probably wasn't

837
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 3: speaking your language. God, he was probably speaking your language.

838
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: Nah.

839
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: He's just like they weren't talking what I wanted to hear,

840
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying. Like, like I said,

841
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: they just won't believe him. To me, I ain't feel

842
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: like like I feel like if I would have said

843
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: to anybody else, they would probably tried to chill me,

844
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying.

845
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, the numbering he was looking for just that too.

846
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: But it's like even lending them hear the music like

847
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 2: they want, like you know, I pay attention to people

848
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: when my music are playing, like I look at it

849
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: by the energy and shit, and.

850
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: They just won't moved back.

851
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: I could tell that one moved back, and so I'm like, okay,

852
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: I know how y'all gonna treat me if I'm saying like,

853
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: y'all really only card about these one songs because it

854
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 2: was going up at the sign.

855
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: So once you heard, once you realize, God he was

856
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: spoking with your other music. He was like, okay, that's

857
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: what I need to be.

858
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was just talking the most sensible, sensible.

859
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: Shit and so so God he signed you. He took

860
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: you under his wing.

861
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 3: There was there like any o g female rappers in

862
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 3: Memphis who reached out and served like as a mentor

863
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 3: to you.

864
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: Gangster had already reached out before she had already with

865
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 2: I was already talking to her before I blew up,

866
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 2: like she would see me and my old friends rapping.

867
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: She was always DM me like y'all so hard, like

868
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: she always showing me up?

869
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: Did you but you never really? Did you ever really

870
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: like to sit down and kick it with it?

871
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: And oh I never got a chance to meet her,

872
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 2: but I always talked to her like we was always DMN,

873
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: but I never got the chance to meet her. I

874
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: made the chick.

875
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: Wow. The chat was hard too. Both of them did

876
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: she give you in the game with chat.

877
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she always d M me and say you

878
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: got it. You're doing these ship like you know how

879
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: the chit gangs like she always come on some gangster

880
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 2: DM me.

881
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: Who were your musical influences coming out of Memphis?

882
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 3: Because I read somewhere that you wanted to be a

883
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 3: singer but decided to rap because you lost your voice

884
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 3: by the.

885
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 2: Time I started rapping like this, when she Keethnel was

886
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 2: out and I was listening to him a lot, and

887
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 2: so like I was like a fan of him and

888
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: she and I just like how he's how he used

889
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 2: to come on the track, Like sometimes he'll say some

890
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: stupid shit, but it was still hard to me, Like

891
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: his beat solution was hard. He was just just be

892
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 2: young turning white. And around the time, that's how I

893
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: was feeling, And so I'm like, let me start rapping too.

894
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: Shit.

895
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 3: It's interesting when you said that you you didn't feel

896
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 3: like you see yourself in this position because you got

897
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 3: so many examples coming from Memphis.

898
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,479
Speaker 1: You got the gotdis you got the three six month figures,

899
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: you got money bag. You know, like like why why

900
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: didn't you think you could do it?

901
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 2: Why didn't that do it.

902
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, said, why didn't you think you could do it?

903
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: I didn't think I could do it.

904
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: But now you said you didn't think you would get

905
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: to this level. Oh, Christian Wafie won.

906
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 2: An oscar, Like that's right, right, But I don't know,

907
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: like I knew it could happen, But I ain't think

908
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 2: like it just happened like unexpectedly, like I knew one

909
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: day it would happen, and I knew one day I'll

910
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 2: be living Like you know how some rappers they don't

911
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: just instantly go up like there, like they gotta go

912
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: through all the stells like I ain't have. I thought

913
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 2: I was maybe would head to this. I ain't no,

914
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: I was just don't get big. So I'm blessed. Though.

915
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 3: Do you think calling yourself the Queen of Memphis because

916
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: you got a record called Queen of Memphis, think that's

917
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 3: gonna ruffle any feathers?

918
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, because just you don't only gotta be one queen.

919
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 2: We are queens the chick gangst the people. We are

920
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: queens glass and as queens men.

921
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 3: People always talk about the lifestyle and temptation of men

922
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 3: who lived this artist life in this industry, right, what's

923
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: that life from the perspective of a woman, because you

924
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: could be.

925
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: Out here smutting these guys out having your own freak

926
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: ass if you wanted that.

927
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty different from a male and a female.

928
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: It's from females to get active now too, But you

929
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 2: know it's it's pretty much the same life. But we

930
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: just don't, like we don't go to him like at

931
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 2: the dudes like y'all just gotta have some shit going.

932
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: Like, ain't on y'all now, I gotta ring on.

933
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: The RAFs, like they just gotta have so much shit

934
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: going on at once and we ain't got through all it.

935
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 3: So you mean to tell me when y'all women be

936
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 3: sitting around with all the money and the influence and

937
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 3: the power y'all got, y'all don't never think about doing

938
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 3: these dudes the way these dudes.

939
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: Be doing women, Like what type of way? Just smoking

940
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: them up?

941
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, but I'm saying, like they addicted to it,

942
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: like it gotta happen all the time. We ain't gotta

943
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: do this.

944
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: That's the that's a power trip though, gotta be power trip,

945
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: that's what I think.

946
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's just like I don't know they it's

947
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: some type of fetish or I don't know, y'all know,

948
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: I mean they know.

949
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said. They what's your relationship with Damian

950
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: a Little?

951
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 3: Like somebody? They just asked them about you the other

952
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 3: day at the press conference. Look at you dropping ship,

953
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 3: getting all nervous thinking about that once you're getting all

954
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 3: nervous thinking about that man.

955
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: They just they just help you. You gotta uh.

956
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. Something I had to

957
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: put on ye steak yeah, hug right there.

958
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: Pause, Well.

959
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 2: You can stick it through anyone right now.

960
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, there you go. Thank you.

961
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 3: Damien Little, they said they asked him about you, and

962
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: he said, you know, I keep my personal life personal

963
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: and let it be that.

964
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: I respect her as an artist. We know each other.

965
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 3: She's an artist. I'm an artist. But as far as

966
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: anything else, it ain't nothing going on. That's what I

967
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 3: can tell you.

968
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that.

969
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

970
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: Did you ever did y'all ever speak kick it talk nothing?

971
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: You know.

972
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: It's a lot of niggas in the world and they

973
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 2: keep seeing it about xbout one. It's gonna hook me up.

974
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: You better start talking about some mother shut shout out

975
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: a couple other ones. Now, does anybody in your family

976
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: have an issue with your music?

977
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: Because you know you mentioned it a little bit earlier,

978
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 3: meaning folks like they said you can't give glory to

979
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: God and still a rap about ratship. People think it

980
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 3: can't be a balance. So because any of your family

981
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,479
Speaker 3: members ever say you can't do the secular music?

982
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: Got them?

983
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: They just all supportive. But I ain't got to do.

984
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: All of them? Yeah, do you pay everybody bills?

985
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 2: The ones that I feel like I should pay you

986
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 2: my mom and my daddy.

987
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: You got nine siblings, Do any of them want to

988
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: be in the business? Are they in the business?

989
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 2: Are they everybody got their own wife? Like? Nobody look

990
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 2: at me like, oh you're a rap. I gotta do

991
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: something like this, like everybody of their own person.

992
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: That's okay.

993
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: Being the eighth child born out of ten kids, do

994
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 3: you ever like battle with helping your family out versus being.

995
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: You know, tight with your money own type? Okay?

996
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: And I'm supersight cause I just think like and not

997
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: even with family with any batter like, cause if you

998
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: do all run out for me, who's gonna hear me out?

999
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: That's right?

1000
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 2: So I'm tight anyway, like I hear people where that

1001
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 2: needs to be health there, but overdoing it, I don't.

1002
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: I don't play there.

1003
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: Have you learned that? No? It was a complete sentence,

1004
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: m for sure. Do they respect? You know?

1005
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: Got to what else they go do?

1006
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: That's right?

1007
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: Are you old enough to know about female rappers like

1008
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 3: the Little Kim's and the Foxy Browns?

1009
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: Did you hear that growing up? You know?

1010
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: I knew Little Kim always because of just hub being

1011
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: Little Kim and being a FASTI act what you was,

1012
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 2: But I ain't hear a lot of the music. I

1013
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: read some of her music growing up, but you know,

1014
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: down south like and then my mama didn't listen to

1015
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: a lot of rap anyway, and so I really had

1016
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: grew up and learned about them myself.

1017
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: What about like? So he was more like treeing, Uh, yeah,

1018
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: I know about okay?

1019
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I was gonna ask, like, you know that

1020
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 3: those women faced a lot of backlash for their lyrics

1021
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 3: and the things they rapped about.

1022
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts about that?

1023
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 3: And do you feel like your generation has those same

1024
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 3: experiences because they seem like they be on your head

1025
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 3: and sexy red head about y'all saying what do you

1026
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 3: What do you feel about that?

1027
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 2: I'm guiltful because the people who like it gonna listen

1028
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 2: to it, like if you I don't like it, apparently

1029
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: you know, not one of my fans don't listen to it.

1030
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 3: It's just that you've been successful for a while now,

1031
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: but you was down probably much longer than you was up. Yeah,

1032
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: that's safe to say, right, But what's been more memorable

1033
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 3: to you? To struggle or the joy both of them.

1034
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: I was just walking last night, I was walking down

1035
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: town Square. I'm just like I had a lot of

1036
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: fun times, memorial times when I was broke, Like you know,

1037
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: it's like you got a lot of fun times when

1038
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: you broke, Like I was just thinking about shit. I'm like, damn,

1039
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: when I used to be working here or doing this,

1040
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 2: Like we was having a lot of fun. But I

1041
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: can say that about being rich too, Like I just

1042
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: enjoyed my whole life now that I look back on it,

1043
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: like grateful more now I'm looking back on it than

1044
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 2: I was at the time, maybe because it could have

1045
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: been worse than what it was.

1046
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know, and the song that I referenced before,

1047
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 3: you said you learn to forgive people even if they

1048
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 3: don't apologize because having peace.

1049
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: Of mind is more important to you.

1050
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, coming from a generation where people are more concerned

1051
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 3: with optics, how do you shut out the noise of

1052
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,479
Speaker 3: what everybody else is doing around you to keep your peace?

1053
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: Because that's what you gotta focus on your piece and

1054
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: nobody else life. I can't let nobody else puck on

1055
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: my jewel, Like I can't just be mad at you

1056
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 2: all the time. And what's this gonna help? Just being

1057
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 2: mad at you? Like, no, it's gonna puck up my peace.

1058
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 2: So I gotta do whatever make me happy and keep

1059
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: me peace.

1060
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 1: What you do to keep your peace?

1061
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: Worry about myself, be in the gym, like stay healthy,

1062
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, feeding too myself, poring to myself.

1063
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: Does your mom soll make you go to church? And

1064
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: she was like glow after you act. Make sure you

1065
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 1: go to church and get.

1066
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 2: Online, watch something, mama, make sure I pray. She always

1067
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 2: send me like a little videos with certain pasts and

1068
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: messages and stuff. But Y always pray. She always texts

1069
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: me from motivational.

1070
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 1: What's the last thing she texts you? What she text

1071
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 1: you this morning? Oh?

1072
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 2: I probably you know text this morning but I can't

1073
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: remember the last thing she texted me, but she always

1074
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 2: say I love you and stuff and make sure you

1075
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 2: pray all it.

1076
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: You know, the most important affirmation she ever told you

1077
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: the one that sticks with you.

1078
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 2: Man, it's something I can tell me. I can't just

1079
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: think of one.

1080
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 3: When you look at a project, Pat he's preaching now, yeah,

1081
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 3: do you see yourself making that move in the future.

1082
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 2: I think it can happen. On it for sure. I

1083
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: think it can happen. People already be saying like I'm

1084
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: ministered to them in my mumusic one day can.

1085
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: My final question, what does success look like? A gorilla?

1086
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: What is it? What is your end goal?

1087
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 2: My end goal is to make my mark where I

1088
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: knew where I made it, and I be able to

1089
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: take care of all my people. I love the way

1090
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: I want to and.

1091
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: She yeah, yeah. Are you happy? Are you having fun? Yes?

1092
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 3: I am just in just in life overall. Yes, Sam,

1093
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 3: What do you want this album to do? What would

1094
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 3: success look like for this glorious album, which I think

1095
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 3: is a phenomenal body of work, by the way, like

1096
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 3: really really really really good.

1097
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1098
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 3: I don't want to jump out the window because I

1099
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: just got it a couple of days ago, and I've

1100
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 3: been listening to a lot.

1101
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's really really real.

1102
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 3: I want to put too much pressure on you, and

1103
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 3: I don't want to put too much sauce on it

1104
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 3: for people watching because I want to name for themself.

1105
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,479
Speaker 1: But it's really, really, really good. So what would success

1106
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 1: look like for you in this project?

1107
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 2: I wanted to go number one. I wanted to like

1108
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 2: be a like an everlasting album, like an album that's

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Speaker 2: for elbing rotation, like one of them classics that people

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Speaker 2: always remember, like when You Bring Up was one of

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Speaker 2: the best albums they say Devil.

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Speaker 1: All right, Golriilla, thank you, appreciate you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: That was a great interview.

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Speaker 1: Interview.

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Speaker 2: You gotta put it with a burden.