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Speaker 2: Ladies and Gentlemen. What year is this for us? I
Speaker 2: still feel like we're in our second year. Nah, this
Speaker 2: is coming up on you six we're starting.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: My My indication of how time is flown by is
Speaker 2: how much uh pay Bill's darterists have grown.
Speaker 1: Right, You're just gonna have like twenty straight up, Like,
Speaker 1: let's not let's not talk about that. That sounds terrible.
Speaker 1: I can kind of keep up with them now, singing
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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, this is this is another Wait are we
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Speaker 2: And some Yeah, I go pull some Crown apples if
Speaker 2: I want to get it. But I got to drive
Speaker 2: back to the farm I'm in. I'm in the apartment
Speaker 2: right now.
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Speaker 2: I'm not to the place where I can drive and
Speaker 2: do that yet, so and I wouldn't recommend that ship.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, wait, too way to move to the farm.
Speaker 6: You could drive and do anything in the suburbs. I'm
Speaker 6: going on that now it's too curvy out there, man,
Speaker 6: I can't do that. So yeah, this is another year
Speaker 6: has has gone by. Apparently we're going to year number six. Damn,
Speaker 6: we're like a We're like an institution. Now, We're not
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Speaker 1: three years of COVID.
Speaker 2: That that said, thank you very much for that, For
Speaker 2: that segue fonte. That that said, I probably have caught
Speaker 2: up on every book, every podcast known to man, and
Speaker 2: one of the podcasts that I familiarize myself with, even
Speaker 2: though I first introduced myself to it as a YouTube
Speaker 2: series but is definitely my favorites is Hip Hop Confessions
Speaker 2: with our Guest Today.
Speaker 1: So I thought it'd be kind of.
Speaker 2: A cool idea if we did kind of a cross
Speaker 2: episode where you know, I guess is the first time
Speaker 2: where two podcasts are coming together as one per se.
Speaker 2: So that said, I will say, uh, this this gentleman is,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, one of the most skillful, dependable professional
Speaker 2: mcs and DJs that I've known. And most importantly, he's
Speaker 2: a music head, you know, so I know any conversation
Speaker 2: with this gentleman is going to be highly interesting. Ladies
Speaker 2: and gentlemen, please welcome. Okay, now here's the deal.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I believe that I was told to drop the mad
Speaker 2: fifteen years ago. Lately I hear that. So you're going
Speaker 2: back to square one. This is you're going back to
Speaker 2: Biggie Smalls. You're going back to Diamond D. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 2: welcome to Questlove Supreme Mad Skills.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, what.
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 2: I know you're going to add your two cents and
Speaker 2: it's going to be the same. We might as well
Speaker 2: just bring it all together. Yeah, man, let's think. Are
Speaker 2: we back at square one again?
Speaker 1: Y'all?
Speaker 2: Like, what's what's going on? Is this March sixteenth, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty again?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I look like yeah? Is yo? Man?
Speaker 2: Like, just in the last thirty hours, the count is
Speaker 2: now up to seventeen I know, seventeen people that got
Speaker 2: like hit. These aren't like people I know to go.
Speaker 2: These are like the ones that were, you know, cool
Speaker 2: for the last two years, Like they come out they
Speaker 2: triple masks, like they made me seem like the devil.
Speaker 2: Like these people are getting caught out there, which is
Speaker 2: kind of wearing me a little bit.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: All the people I know that have have caught it,
Speaker 2: I know probably like five people that have called it,
Speaker 2: like the last couple, like last week or so, and
Speaker 2: they were all vaccinated, all vaccinated, and I think one.
Speaker 1: Of them was boosted. I know as well. So this
Speaker 1: is crazy, bro. I'm in the house.
Speaker 2: I'm boosted. I got mine. I got mine two weeks ago.
Speaker 2: I think I'm boosted. And I got my flu shot.
Speaker 2: I never got a flu shot before, so.
Speaker 3: I did a shot either.
Speaker 2: I could triple down because I ain't messing around ship,
Speaker 2: I'll take another shot.
Speaker 5: I took a pneumonia shot by accident. Took the vaccine.
Speaker 5: My adopted was like, you know, that's sixty year olds.
Speaker 5: I was like, that'll work, that's fine.
Speaker 1: Wait, pneumonia vaccine.
Speaker 5: A doctor mistakenly gave it to me because she was like,
Speaker 5: you're not old enough for it. But that's fine. I
Speaker 5: know what I want to be getting.
Speaker 1: Damn Okay, everything like out here triple mask, triple being up.
Speaker 2: So you there, you got a pneumonia shot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you needed that.
Speaker 2: I did get pneumonia. Okay, Grace had pneumonia and I
Speaker 2: got pneumonia from Grace, like oh wow, like two months ago.
Speaker 1: But ship, I was just down for like three days.
Speaker 1: But you know I.
Speaker 2: Tested like seven times and they all were negative.
Speaker 5: After sixty pnemonia could be like COVID you can still sick.
Speaker 2: Wait was about to say, yeah, like this this this
Speaker 2: battle also between this winter is going to be weird, man,
Speaker 2: because like again, I'm seventy five degree person and she's
Speaker 2: like a sixty seven degree person.
Speaker 5: Oh we would a woman of a certain age. Now
Speaker 5: we get high after forty yeah, dog at the end
Speaker 5: of the.
Speaker 2: Days crazy she wants it like freezing levels like I
Speaker 2: don't know, you know, we have to Like she's at
Speaker 2: the forum right now. I'm here, and you know I
Speaker 2: got this joint on like eighty one, Like I'm in
Speaker 2: Heaven right now. It's Africa in here, and I got
Speaker 2: two two sweaters on. Anyway, skills, man, how goes it?
Speaker 2: Where are you right now?
Speaker 7: I'm in Virginia right now. Yeah, it goes you know,
Speaker 7: same shit, different air freshener, you know what I mean,
Speaker 7: trying to get it together.
Speaker 2: This is weird because I know that this is a
Speaker 2: typical episode, but I do got a billion questions for
Speaker 2: skills about his life as a MC.
Speaker 5: Bring it right?
Speaker 2: All right, Well we can make this decision right here.
Speaker 2: Do we just do a skills episode or do we
Speaker 2: do our what what was twenty.
Speaker 1: Twelve makes up? I think mix it up? Mix it up?
Speaker 2: First of all, I want to know, have you, like
Speaker 2: listened to an Outcast record in its entirety yet?
Speaker 3: No, I knew he was gonna ask me that, And no.
Speaker 2: I are you just doing it just to keep the
Speaker 2: joke running?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 7: No, no, Like for me, you know, it's not really
Speaker 7: it was never really a joke, that is, you know,
Speaker 7: on my podcast Hip Hop Confessions, like that was my
Speaker 7: first confession. I've never listened to an Outcast album in
Speaker 7: its entirety. And from that time, people have given me
Speaker 7: box sets, you know, gift rapped nicely, and you know,
Speaker 7: people have tried to make it.
Speaker 1: Anyone from Organized Noise heard of this.
Speaker 7: Uh No, KP KP has and k Ple was like,
Speaker 7: that's kind of crazy to me, Like and I was like,
Speaker 7: he was like, it's crazy, guys, because we was in
Speaker 7: Virginia tough like when we was first Yeah, I mean
Speaker 7: trying to get that ship off. We was in the
Speaker 7: Virginia the Carolina's like tough on promo, and I was like, bro,
Speaker 7: like I was a heavily East Coast and flo Launce rapper.
Speaker 7: So if it wasn't Jay Rule and Gang Star and
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying and big, and it wasn't,
Speaker 7: it wasn't. It wasn't falling you know, on my radar.
Speaker 7: So and now I'm looking at it like what I've
Speaker 7: missed the boat Like, I'm not gonna it's not gonna
Speaker 7: feel how it felt that y'all in ninety four.
Speaker 3: So it's like, what what the fuck is the boy?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: You know what, there's still some great music on.
Speaker 7: I was gonna say, no, no, no, if they have a video,
Speaker 7: if they had a video for and it was a single.
Speaker 3: I heard, if you know, if it was just kind.
Speaker 2: Of knowing t I for me or knowing Nelly for me,
Speaker 2: like I don't know the filler, but I know.
Speaker 3: Like you the song on fucking Country Grammar Nigga.
Speaker 2: Right, So you could go to outcast content and pretty
Speaker 2: much do what they're gonna do because all the singles.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but you know all of the other ones that
Speaker 7: people swear by, like skills, you ain't like.
Speaker 2: So when I say to you, you don't know you.
Speaker 1: Friday, I don't know is that true?
Speaker 3: What is that true?
Speaker 1: See?
Speaker 2: But that's the thing though, because you're telling you're not.
Speaker 1: A deep cuts guy. But you know who troops mama.
Speaker 2: You know what, I can actually match you in that
Speaker 2: sort of I could sort of match you in that.
Speaker 2: If I were on your show, my hip hop confession
Speaker 2: would have been, I've never seen a Kanye West video.
Speaker 3: Wow. Wow, I mean you on my show right now?
Speaker 2: So okay, I've never seen a Kanye West video. But
Speaker 2: you know something, though, I discovered something this week that
Speaker 2: has totally this This might break me down and make
Speaker 2: me publicly admit that I am an First of all,
Speaker 2: I'm not a I'm not omitting that I'm not a
Speaker 2: Kanye West fan. I am obviously a Kanye West fan.
Speaker 2: I DJ's music, I have his records. There's been there's
Speaker 2: been some weird water under the bridge that we're just
Speaker 2: no no, no, no, no. We In the last weird enough.
Speaker 2: It's from the project that me and Skills work on,
Speaker 2: the jay Z thing like weird enough, Me and Kanye
Speaker 2: finally had like our first conversations due to the many
Speaker 2: times that he stood me up for that project. I
Speaker 2: won't go into that, but I just found out that
Speaker 2: he goes produced one of my all time favorite joints.
Speaker 1: And now.
Speaker 2: It's which one. It's a deep cut joint. Man, I
Speaker 2: don't know what it is.
Speaker 5: Ready, come on, let's go.
Speaker 2: It's a deep cut joint that even though I know
Speaker 2: the Mad Rapper album was was sort of aimed at
Speaker 2: underground rappers, you know, kind of the middle, you know,
Speaker 2: the the The Mad Rapper was born out of kind
Speaker 2: of biggie busting shots to rappers, making fun of like
Speaker 2: poor dusty rappers like us whatever, even though I think
Speaker 2: Kicking the Door was mainly made for nas. But you know,
Speaker 2: I definitely know that he one of his last words
Speaker 2: was about like fucking up the roots when he's seen us.
Speaker 2: But there's a song on the Mad Rapper record that
Speaker 2: I might like. This is in my top ten joints,
Speaker 2: a joint called I'm Ghetto with Rakwan, and I just
Speaker 2: found out that Kanye was produced at jaint like back
Speaker 2: when he was an apprentice to.
Speaker 1: Who's the mad Rapper?
Speaker 7: Yeah, ANGELETTI. Now for me, my you know, you know,
Speaker 7: if you know my history, a lot of people will
Speaker 7: tell you, you know, they might see something on him.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 7: I have his name blocked on like all social media,
Speaker 7: so I don't see his name at all. So sometimes
Speaker 7: people will be like, damn skills, like you go so
Speaker 7: hard on dude, bro like god, damn bro like damn
Speaker 7: he and I catch like ah this, that and the third.
Speaker 7: I'm like, man, that niggain't no fucking genius, Like he's
Speaker 7: a he's a better Pete Rock at best nigga.
Speaker 3: I'm not calling him the genius.
Speaker 7: I never am say that. So for me, I'm a
Speaker 7: here's my hip hop. Here's here's a hip hop confession
Speaker 7: for you. I'm mirror. I'm I'm we're gonna backtrack all
Speaker 7: the way to my disdain for that that nigga, so
Speaker 7: and and and here's here's here's the thing, and this
Speaker 7: is this is probably gonna hit you in a in
Speaker 7: a weird way. I don't fuck with dude because of
Speaker 7: what he said about Reeq on Wendy Williams show.
Speaker 3: And I don't know what year that was.
Speaker 7: I don't know what year it was, but I remember
Speaker 7: listening to the radio in New York City and this
Speaker 7: was at the Rockefeller bubble up of Kanye West, and
Speaker 7: he was on Wendy and she was like, Yo, you
Speaker 7: you're such a good dress rapper, Like you dressed very well.
Speaker 7: And he's like, He's like, yeah, thank you know. She's like,
Speaker 7: but you know what, you know who my all time
Speaker 7: favorite well dressed rapper is? And he said, oh, and
Speaker 7: she was like that guy Black Thought from the roots.
Speaker 7: Every time I see him, he is dressed to the
Speaker 7: nines and that nigga. Kanye said, Man, that nigga get
Speaker 7: all his shit at the good Will store.
Speaker 1: Yo.
Speaker 6: And I was like, I'm in the car, real, I'm
Speaker 6: in the car like nigga, fuck you.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like, and I fuck with Kanye sense.
Speaker 1: There's water under that bridge.
Speaker 2: Let the record show that the first person to take
Speaker 2: Kanye to Barney's was to Rek Trotter. Me and t
Speaker 2: Ric are the polar opposites of each other. Tik, even
Speaker 2: in COVID, I guarantee you Tarik's outfit is worth like
Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 5: Yeah, me hands them fashion icon.
Speaker 2: And this my quest love Christmas sweater from you know,
Speaker 2: from work.
Speaker 7: Bro from being on tour with y'all. I didn't know
Speaker 7: like black label like I did.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 7: It's certain things I didn't know we could be, like Yo,
Speaker 7: just roll with me. Like was the first thing that
Speaker 7: got seen with like prod of sneakers. He was the
Speaker 7: first nigga to walk on stage with a fur on
Speaker 7: like so when so when so when Yay said that ship,
Speaker 7: I was like, that's my man, like so so.
Speaker 2: He literally he literally took like when when they were
Speaker 2: working on the Gun whatever, the song on Qualley's record
Speaker 2: that he produced with pharaohmontch and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Gun music something Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: That session, like k took Kanye and Quality to Barney's
Speaker 2: for the very first time.
Speaker 5: Like but that's why this is a level of penniness
Speaker 5: that has not been seen before, because even Reek has
Speaker 5: gotten over this by now skills. So they share stage
Speaker 5: together and everything.
Speaker 1: The real story And.
Speaker 2: I know how you writ this story before, right, what's
Speaker 2: the Pixtar the Pixar movie The Incredibles. You remember how
Speaker 2: like the sidekick always wanted to hang with the whatever? Yeah,
Speaker 2: way before the days of like way before the Blueprint
Speaker 2: and all that stuff, Like you know, he used to
Speaker 2: come around like I don't remember him. I kind of
Speaker 2: remember him, but you know, like apparently like he was
Speaker 2: he was, you know, back when we was coming. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying that, Yeah, there was there was a moment
Speaker 2: that happened where the downfall of that that freestyle video
Speaker 2: that has went super viral of like Tarik Rowman on
Speaker 2: the Street is that, you know, it tells every other
Speaker 2: MC like he's the guy to beat or he's the
Speaker 2: guy that you know, you want to get in the
Speaker 2: cipher with Tarik's day of like just ciphering and all
Speaker 2: that shit. Is that kind of I think once Illadelf
Speaker 2: Half Life came out, he was like, nah, man, I
Speaker 2: gotta I want to write some shit, not just freestyle
Speaker 2: some shit. And it was just one day where he
Speaker 2: just caught beat Reek on a bad day where he
Speaker 2: like Reek was like changing his clothes in the men's
Speaker 2: room and old boy just shot a shot like all right,
Speaker 2: I gotta do this, and he went in the men's
Speaker 2: room like while Threek's changing it just started putting a
Speaker 2: lyrical clinic on and.
Speaker 7: I'm pointing to freestyle for you, why you changing your clothes? Yeah,
Speaker 7: that is a rappers worst nightment.
Speaker 1: But I mean we know.
Speaker 2: I mean, the thing is is that we know that's him.
Speaker 2: We've seen him get on tables before, perform his entire
Speaker 2: album and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: So yes, he's but.
Speaker 2: That's enabling though, Yeah, but that's bullshit. Like look but
Speaker 2: back in two thousand now, back in nineteen ninety nine,
Speaker 2: two thousand before that, like it was just who's this dude?
Speaker 1: Get him out of And you know.
Speaker 7: I think I've never I've never, I've never I liked
Speaker 7: his first three albums when he started wilding out. I
Speaker 7: never brought into the you know, he don't have all
Speaker 7: his marbles. Something's wrong with him. I always feel like
Speaker 7: he used that ship as a crutch and it's just
Speaker 7: I can't co sign with the genius.
Speaker 3: You know, he's a genius.
Speaker 7: And I'm like, I'd be like, yeah, nah, he ain't
Speaker 7: like he's a child of YouTube. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: he's he's not a genius, Like.
Speaker 5: Yah officially gave him too much time to.
Speaker 7: Right, So let's just keep it moving because I'd rather
Speaker 7: talk about Reek than that nigga, so about that ship so.
Speaker 2: That I've never seen the video, but you know what,
Speaker 2: you ain't missing ship. I do want to see flashing
Speaker 2: lights though.
Speaker 3: It was it was cool.
Speaker 4: Nah, yeah, the flash and that's like my favorite. Damn
Speaker 4: the video was whatever though yeah the video is run away.
Speaker 4: I've not seen flashing light. I'm just you know, it's
Speaker 4: not even like I just never seen a Kanye West.
Speaker 4: But it's not like I was trying to purposely avoid
Speaker 4: it because I don't watch MTV and BT, like, I
Speaker 4: didn't watch one or six in park.
Speaker 1: So I've just never seen a video.
Speaker 3: But BBI right.
Speaker 5: To circle this back to it. Will Kanye's name be
Speaker 5: mentioned in the twenty twenty one rap up?
Speaker 1: Because there is no twenty twenty one wrap up?
Speaker 5: Yes there is.
Speaker 3: You didn't hear no no me.
Speaker 4: You mean like our show the wrap up or the
Speaker 4: song the the skills wrap up?
Speaker 3: What you're talking about, like, come on, skills, stop pleasing
Speaker 3: what you're.
Speaker 1: Talking about, skills, what you're doing.
Speaker 5: So just for the record, let me just say something
Speaker 5: for the record, for the last ten dare I say,
Speaker 5: I don't know, fifteen years however long you've been doing this. However,
Speaker 5: long I've been on the radio. I call Skills and
Speaker 5: I say, Skills, is there a wrap up? Why are
Speaker 5: you not doing that shit? It's always a wrap up?
Speaker 5: I asked him this last time. I said, Skills, you're
Speaker 5: not gonna do it this time? Huh, Well, like I
Speaker 5: don't know, so skills.
Speaker 7: First of all, here, uh, I have never I've never
Speaker 7: pub looked. I only publicly came out once in the
Speaker 7: song and said I ain't doing another one, and that
Speaker 7: was twenty ten. So I never publicly said public I
Speaker 7: ain't doing it, so for me, but you got the plug.
Speaker 7: So for me, this, uh, this one will probably this
Speaker 7: is the twentieth one, so it'll probably be the last one.
Speaker 1: That sounds good.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, yeah, at least say goodbye. Don't don't
Speaker 2: go out for cigarettes and just leave us.
Speaker 3: No no, no no.
Speaker 7: But as soon as you hear it, as soon as
Speaker 7: it comes on, you will under you will already know.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is it.
Speaker 1: So the shortest one. It might be just a six
Speaker 1: second wrap up.
Speaker 3: Listen, didn't the year ago by fast?
Speaker 5: It?
Speaker 1: Really did?
Speaker 5: It?
Speaker 1: Really did?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 7: I ain't take you tay. The music reflects the time,
Speaker 7: So niggas gonna hit the end of that song.
Speaker 1: By God, damn it over there already. Listen.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, y'all say it went by fast, but
Speaker 5: this is the year that started on January.
Speaker 1: Are you going to burn a bridge or something?
Speaker 7: No, no, no, I'm not gonna burn no bridges. I'm
Speaker 7: just gonna I'm a blow wild gracefully on a on
Speaker 7: a on an even number.
Speaker 4: So you said you said it started like on January sixth.
Speaker 4: You think this one started saying.
Speaker 5: It Sometimes this year it feels like it was short,
Speaker 5: but it's.
Speaker 1: Been released on January sixth.
Speaker 3: My point was she talking about the insurrection.
Speaker 5: This year started with a whole insurrection that felt like
Speaker 5: that was whatever ago. This year started out with President Trump.
Speaker 5: This year it feels like Biden's been president for like
Speaker 5: three years already. I'm just saying, sometimes it feels short,
Speaker 5: but sometimes it feels fucking long.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel you. I feel you.
Speaker 7: See, I've been I've been, uh you know, I've been
Speaker 7: toying around with the with some some different uh pockets,
Speaker 7: and I'm gonna give it a value effort.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna sit down Kobe this year, knock it down.
Speaker 3: That was last year.
Speaker 2: Oh ship Kobe, do you know the year that took
Speaker 2: you the longest to come up with a wrap up?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: What year? Was like a particular nightmare for you to
Speaker 1: craft it together?
Speaker 7: Should last year? Because there was nothing entertaining about last year.
Speaker 1: Throwing in the trash. That was the throwing in the
Speaker 1: trash here right.
Speaker 7: Yes, So for me to try to make that entertaining,
Speaker 7: there was sitting down looking at a blank piece of
Speaker 7: paper saying, how can I make somebody chuckle? How can
Speaker 7: I make them get a quick laugh? How can I
Speaker 7: get a punchline?
Speaker 5: There?
Speaker 3: Want none of that shit last year? Last year? I
Speaker 3: want nothing funny about last year.
Speaker 1: How do you source for information? Like?
Speaker 2: Do you by the year? Do you just keep a
Speaker 2: memo of things worth noting? So then once you get
Speaker 2: to November you start sourcing?
Speaker 1: Right? This is important, This is important. This you know.
Speaker 7: I don't even think about the song till Black Friday
Speaker 7: because otherwise I don't think about the song until Black Friday.
Speaker 7: That's my ritual. On Black Friday, I go, Okay, what
Speaker 7: beat you gonna rap over? Are you're gonna get a
Speaker 7: beat made? You're gonna rap over something else that was
Speaker 7: hot this year?
Speaker 3: What you're gonna do. And then maybe like that Monday.
Speaker 7: After December first, December second, third, I might start writing
Speaker 7: down what I can remember from memory, like oh, okay, insurrection.
Speaker 7: I don't have to fucking I don't need to know
Speaker 7: when that happened. I remember that. I might have to
Speaker 7: go back and remember, oh, when did so and so
Speaker 7: and so and so break up?
Speaker 3: What month was that like? But other than that, I.
Speaker 7: Write down, write, I write down everything that I can
Speaker 7: remember from memory, and then I write down. Then I
Speaker 7: you know, I go to the Internet and write down
Speaker 7: everything else, and then I put it all in order.
Speaker 7: This happened in January, Okay, this happened in February. Okay,
Speaker 7: Tom Brady and the Bucks one this time. And then
Speaker 7: I sit there and look at it, and I might
Speaker 7: try to write something.
Speaker 3: I might not.
Speaker 7: But the funny thing about it is what I tell
Speaker 7: people is music don't.
Speaker 3: Give a fuck about pressure.
Speaker 7: That's why I have to start it when I started,
Speaker 7: because I can't just go on the day after Christmas,
Speaker 7: all Right, I'm gonna do this shit, and it's gonna
Speaker 7: be done by thirsty shit. Music would be like not bitch,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean? So some days I could
Speaker 7: sit down there and look at a blank piece of
Speaker 7: paper on December seventh and I don't write nothing, and
Speaker 7: maybe on December twelfth, I sit down and I.
Speaker 3: Might write It's a flood at eighty bars and they all.
Speaker 2: Catch you about twenty twenty some days to craft it.
Speaker 7: To get it together, yes, to write it. You know,
Speaker 7: it doesn't take long. But it's just like pacing it.
Speaker 7: Like it's almost like a DJ said, like valleys and peaks,
Speaker 7: like I'm gonna start here, I'm gonna take them up
Speaker 7: and bring them back down.
Speaker 3: It's like that.
Speaker 5: How you make sure that you don't have not too
Speaker 5: much information? Because I'm thinking, if you go on monthly,
Speaker 5: do you stop yourself at a certain point being like
Speaker 5: all right, let's like two paragraphs and shit.
Speaker 7: That's mean I might get to like summer and be like, okay,
Speaker 7: how long is this song?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: If I'm like, man, we have three minutes at July,
Speaker 7: like okay, nigga, you really need wrap this ship up right.
Speaker 2: Wait, wasn't wasn't uh uh games three hundred bars? Wasn't
Speaker 2: that twenty? Was that like seventeen or twenty minutes?
Speaker 7: We might want to ask a rap nerd, I don't.
Speaker 7: I don't listen to niggas wrapped that long.
Speaker 2: See, yeah, I ain't got it in me now on
Speaker 2: that light year where you get selected, that is.
Speaker 5: Fonte the rap rap niggas don't be rapping yet.
Speaker 1: That's not me, that's yeah. No, No, I ain't got
Speaker 1: time for that.
Speaker 3: Man, I don't. I really don't, in a real way.
Speaker 7: Like I'm listen, we forty plus man, you know what
Speaker 7: else I could do at that time?
Speaker 1: Man? Listen, man, that's an episode of the TV anything.
Speaker 2: See this is to two brothers living below the Mason
Speaker 2: Dixon line talk right now exactly.
Speaker 7: This is this is called read this as Fonte coined
Speaker 7: the phrase, this is called rap. After forty you Virginia,
Speaker 7: do you know Kwanza?
Speaker 5: I just because find so?
Speaker 4: Okay, before we got I can say so. Before we
Speaker 4: got on, we was talking. I was telling her like,
Speaker 4: I don't, we don't. I don't know anyone who celebrates quasa.
Speaker 4: She was saying, that's a Southern thing. So do you
Speaker 4: skills being from Virginia, do you know anyone who celebrates quasas?
Speaker 1: No, who is celebrating quanta?
Speaker 5: So everybody, indeed, affluent.
Speaker 1: African roots, it might be.
Speaker 5: Mean and Bill's daughter and Bill's daughter.
Speaker 1: Wait, y'all celebrating? Wait what? Yeah, no, no, you missed the
Speaker 1: which was my daughter came home singing Quansa carols, Carols
Speaker 1: songs or something, Quanta songs, Quanta jams, whatever. The she
Speaker 1: came home and it was hilarious and here we are.
Speaker 3: Qua.
Speaker 1: So that's that happen And so there you go.
Speaker 5: No, but you said, you know it's more Bill, because
Speaker 5: she sang the song. I was like, what is the song?
Speaker 5: Because I did not. I was not even aware that
Speaker 5: there were Kwansa songs and er and you celebrated and
Speaker 5: you didn't even know some Quanta celebrations. Yes I have, Yes,
Speaker 5: I have.
Speaker 1: You wait, talk about it like you're in it way
Speaker 1: deeper than that.
Speaker 4: You talk about it like you got the Quanta.
Speaker 7: Bops tasting, you got quantsam prime.
Speaker 5: I don't think that a young You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: It started sixty. I'm just saying, maybe progressing with the music.
Speaker 5: I'm not aware, but it doesn't mean it's not happening.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 7: You can't say don't feel like yeah, I feel like
Speaker 7: I should be mill in tune with it and you
Speaker 7: should be.
Speaker 5: And we make jokes on the show sing this show
Speaker 5: and it' shoptin't funny because black people and that they
Speaker 5: don't want the holidays, and when we make our only
Speaker 5: made jokes because all know how to do is at
Speaker 5: our ship.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be I'm gonna be real you once once
Speaker 2: the farm, once the farm gets settled. I think Grace
Speaker 2: might be forced me to celebrate Quanta.
Speaker 5: The principle you don't even know why you're giving gifts.
Speaker 5: You don't know what Santa has to do with Jesus.
Speaker 5: You just follow a tradition like a fucking robot. Stop.
Speaker 1: But I've been stopped. I've been killed Santa Claus.
Speaker 2: I killed him early, like so that I'm not working
Speaker 2: and giving the credit to a white man out of here.
Speaker 1: So now that's over.
Speaker 4: In terms of the given gifts, I mean, yeah, like
Speaker 4: I give gifts like I give gifts cause niggas be
Speaker 4: needing ship.
Speaker 5: But niggas be needing ship more days than just.
Speaker 1: That one day out of the year, and I give
Speaker 1: more days of the year.
Speaker 4: I'm not really I'm not really a holidays. I'm sorry, celebrator.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, I just I try to
Speaker 4: do good year round.
Speaker 7: When I grew up, Christmas was Salvation Army knocking in
Speaker 7: my door with a pair.
Speaker 3: Of pants and some jocks. So I didn't have the
Speaker 3: same Christmas. A lot of niggas say.
Speaker 7: From North Carolina, nigga, he was knocking on the door,
Speaker 7: like here go your g I Joe, nigga Bye, that.
Speaker 3: Was my Christmas.
Speaker 1: Uh so Honakah was earlier this year? Correct? Yep, Steve,
Speaker 1: how was it? How was whatnka honkah? We canceled it.
Speaker 8: It was supposed to be on Sunday this past Sunday,
Speaker 8: and my.
Speaker 3: My sister got COVID uh week ago.
Speaker 1: So she's doing good, she's fine.
Speaker 8: But but yeah, we had to cancel all that. So, uh,
Speaker 8: we're gonna be like drive We're gonna do like present
Speaker 8: drive bys. We're gonna drive by and just like throw
Speaker 8: the presidents out the window.
Speaker 2: Like this is the first year you didn't get the
Speaker 2: Oh no, the.
Speaker 1: Check, the check is gonna it's on.
Speaker 3: Baby.
Speaker 2: You gotta understand long Steve twenty five years man, Yeah,
Speaker 2: no is the happiest day of his life. Boy he
Speaker 2: gets quote the check. I never even I don't even
Speaker 2: know how much the check is worth. But Steven satisfied
Speaker 2: with hashtag the check.
Speaker 1: Yeah check, like in a way.
Speaker 2: That that Clarence what's his name says the ship and
Speaker 2: uh tells.
Speaker 3: From cl Wiams the third Ye yes, oh.
Speaker 2: The ship one of the list, one of them, Stevens
Speaker 2: the check.
Speaker 7: One of the funniest cinematic moments is when they slapped
Speaker 7: him with the gun and he just started and.
Speaker 1: Said, hey, look, bro, you scored.
Speaker 2: You t off on the nigga He do that Andy, Yo, bro,
Speaker 2: you got it.
Speaker 1: I'm good. Whatever problem we had it ended right there.
Speaker 4: I want that boat.
Speaker 3: Was man, enough of the talk, old man, where's the ship?
Speaker 3: He said?
Speaker 1: Feoderal home?
Speaker 5: This to hell.
Speaker 6: We went script a little bit, but hey, this.
Speaker 1: Is how this.
Speaker 5: But wait, skills, you mentioned something I just wanted to
Speaker 5: touch on it real quick. It sounded as sentimental. You
Speaker 5: mentioned about your Christmases and this is you know, a
Speaker 5: fifty to fifty. We want to know more about skills
Speaker 5: and you know about the about growing up in Fayetteville
Speaker 5: and what your life was like and you know, sorry.
Speaker 7: I was born in I was born in Detroit, Michigan,
Speaker 7: but I don't remember being there. I think I left
Speaker 7: when I was around two. Most of the yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: I did not know that now sign hospital. Some my
Speaker 7: first earliest of my childhood memories are probably being in Faytville,
Speaker 7: riding bikes all that type, ship, playing ball. I grew up.
Speaker 7: My mom was my mom, my sister, and uh yeah,
Speaker 7: I was running through Faveville, you know, just being a
Speaker 7: kid and tell us.
Speaker 5: Where sakwan comes from. I was always curious.
Speaker 3: That's that's later. Okay, that's later.
Speaker 7: But uh, one thing, No, I got an older I
Speaker 7: have an older I got an older sister and younger brother,
Speaker 7: and then my dad had some kids, so those are
Speaker 7: I got four siblings on that side.
Speaker 3: But uh, I knew.
Speaker 7: Early on that this was wasn't a place to stay at.
Speaker 7: And there's no disrespect to Fanville, but it was my
Speaker 7: mom used to tell me, you know, uh, you know,
Speaker 7: we used to see the commercials for the Army be
Speaker 7: all you can be and ship, and then like right
Speaker 7: after that commercial, it would be a you know, a
Speaker 7: commercial for say some cars or TV or furniture set,
Speaker 7: and they would be like, you know, calling all so
Speaker 7: and so et one and up and up like so
Speaker 7: it was like they were almost advertising if you're in
Speaker 7: the military, you can come and get this stuff, you know,
Speaker 7: and we'll only.
Speaker 3: Charge you this. So I was already like, damn, like.
Speaker 4: I got right here totally. I'm thinking you right by
Speaker 4: Brag for right by.
Speaker 7: Fore Brag I lived, Yeah, O god, I lived in
Speaker 7: the trailer park right next to for Brag. So I
Speaker 7: had J Cole's mindset before J Cole was even worm, like,
Speaker 7: I gotta get the funk out of here.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: And I never and just hearing you say that, man,
Speaker 4: it's so crazy because I never thought that people or
Speaker 4: you know, companies will advertise differently, you know, in the
Speaker 4: military town. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, I
Speaker 4: never I never thought about that wall.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, you.
Speaker 7: Come get a car, come get some furniture, come get
Speaker 7: you know, a television color TV. But but if you
Speaker 7: are in the military, always we know you're gonna get
Speaker 7: a check. So if you are this status and up,
Speaker 7: then you could come down here right now. We're basically
Speaker 7: give you this ship. You can put a dollar down,
Speaker 7: you can get this ship. Right So, right after Soul Train,
Speaker 7: you know, that was the commercials he saw. So I
Speaker 7: remember thinking to myself like, I got to get the
Speaker 7: fuck out of here at an early age. I might
Speaker 7: have been thirteen twelve, Like, I got it. I can't
Speaker 7: stay here. I didn't know where I was gonna go,
Speaker 7: but yeah, I had to get the hell up out
Speaker 7: of there, and uh I did at about fifteen, and
Speaker 7: I came to Virginia. When I came to Virginia, my
Speaker 7: mom changed religious. She met a Muslim man and she
Speaker 7: adapted to Islam. And she told us that, you know,
Speaker 7: me and my little brother, if we wanted to change
Speaker 7: our names, we could. So when I went to the
Speaker 7: new town, which was Richmond, Virginia, and I started school,
Speaker 7: I told everybody my name was Chaquan and it's been
Speaker 7: Chequan ever since.
Speaker 2: Wow, when you were in Faytteville, what did you start
Speaker 2: high school in Faville?
Speaker 1: Who?
Speaker 3: I damn ty? I went to every fucking school in Fae.
Speaker 3: I went first.
Speaker 7: I went to set Me first. I went to Westwood,
Speaker 7: I mean Westwood. I went to Taford I lived.
Speaker 1: Wait.
Speaker 2: What kind of student were you that you went to
Speaker 2: My mom?
Speaker 7: My mom was all over the town. That you gotta understand.
Speaker 7: My mom was was on heroin. So I was all
Speaker 7: over the place. So I had a mom that was
Speaker 7: on drugs. Drugs were super rampant at that time, and
Speaker 7: no father. It's just me and my mom and my
Speaker 7: little brother and we all over like we might have
Speaker 7: moved every three four months. And I never lived in
Speaker 7: the house. It was always a trailer, like I didn't
Speaker 7: even know. I didn't even know houses existed till I
Speaker 7: was like ten. I thought everybody lived in the trailer.
Speaker 7: And if you had a double wive, shit, I mean,
Speaker 7: like you was bothered if you had a double wife.
Speaker 7: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You don't hear you had a Marshall Madison going on?
Speaker 7: Yeah, without without Dre, even though I did work with
Speaker 7: Dre but late.
Speaker 4: But your pops? Did y'all have any connection at all?
Speaker 7: My pop died when I was My pop died when
Speaker 7: I was about I want to say, eight or nine
Speaker 7: years old, and I never.
Speaker 3: Really knew him.
Speaker 7: And then in the fast four years later when he
Speaker 7: passed away at eight, and then my mom passed away
Speaker 7: when I was around in like ninety eight, and so
Speaker 7: that my mom and my dad ended up dying from
Speaker 7: the same drug thirty years apart. Wow, And I didn't
Speaker 7: make the connection that my father was the person who
Speaker 7: turned my mother on heroin until American Gangster came up.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's crazy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so you know, all my adolescent years, first time
Speaker 7: hearing it was just this guy named Don Reed.
Speaker 3: He used to be on the radio.
Speaker 7: First time here in hip hop was on a radio
Speaker 7: station in North Carolina. I think I might have heard
Speaker 7: hard Times first.
Speaker 1: Wait, where year were you born?
Speaker 3: Was one? In seventy one?
Speaker 2: Hard Times by Run And that's the first rap.
Speaker 3: Song you heard on the radio.
Speaker 1: So you never had a rappers.
Speaker 3: The light I heard rappers the light in people's houses was.
Speaker 2: Not in seventy nine when it was get Hell, so
Speaker 2: it didn't hit. So there wasn't a I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: from the Northeast, so in Philadelphia, New York, there's like
Speaker 2: a you know, a Frankie Crocker sort of figure that
Speaker 2: plays stuff in real time.
Speaker 1: But there wasn't that person.
Speaker 7: And it was a guy named Don Reid. He was
Speaker 7: probably playing that stuff. But the first time I remember
Speaker 7: laying in the bed cutting on the radio and I
Speaker 7: heard that, And once I heard that, motherfucking.
Speaker 3: That was it. I was done.
Speaker 7: And that's that's probably why the Run DMC shit was
Speaker 7: so stellar. To me because when I ended up meeting
Speaker 7: them in Fayville in front of Off the Murk, like
Speaker 7: it was I tookture and that was That's happened means
Speaker 7: everything to you.
Speaker 3: It was my introduction.
Speaker 2: You just totally now I get it because even like
Speaker 2: knowing the story, your Run DMC story, like I was
Speaker 2: kind of wondering, like, wait, why does run dem C
Speaker 2: mean that much to you?
Speaker 4: I think it's something too and skills, you know, correct
Speaker 4: me if if I'm wrong on this. There was something
Speaker 4: just as guys in the South, like Run DMC just
Speaker 4: represented something different like it wasn't. I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 4: it's because they had the hats like you know, our
Speaker 4: granddaddys were wear or whatever, but yeah, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. But it was just something different about you didn't.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, we loved ll I mean, we
Speaker 4: love all that stuff, but it was something about Run
Speaker 4: DMC like they were just superheroes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like that ship was so yes, it was.
Speaker 3: They could fly, bro, they could fly, They could do
Speaker 3: no wrong.
Speaker 7: And anybody that came up after them or anybody you
Speaker 7: saw after them, even if they dropped before Curtis blows
Speaker 7: and you know, like you said, flash and all of them,
Speaker 7: they just didn't have the same appeal that them three
Speaker 7: niggas had because when you looked at them, if you
Speaker 7: didn't see yourself and one of them, you could automatically go, man,
Speaker 7: he looked like my cousin. He looked like he looked
Speaker 7: like Cam, and we could go out and be a
Speaker 7: little run DMC. You automatically thought of two friends when
Speaker 7: you saw the right straight right.
Speaker 4: My first rap group, it was three of us. It
Speaker 4: was one that wreasses.
Speaker 7: Yes, listen, I was I was run. That was that
Speaker 7: was run the sideburns. I was him skinny lanky like.
Speaker 7: So yeah, that's that was when I fell in love
Speaker 7: with it.
Speaker 2: Wait, I highly recommend our listeners. You just released the story.
Speaker 2: I think last was last year? When or was it
Speaker 2: this year that you released the story about your run
Speaker 2: DMC story, which, oh.
Speaker 7: It was that was that was that came out of
Speaker 7: on on the other podcast earlier this year.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I highly recommend our listeners to. I don't
Speaker 2: want to spoiler alert it now it's too epic to tell,
Speaker 2: but yeah, just if you like skilled, it's on it's
Speaker 2: on my I G two. So Okay, yes, I highly
Speaker 2: recommend that because I was there and even I didn't
Speaker 2: know that was happening. That's strange, man, I didn't know
Speaker 2: that story. Yo, dog, I didn't even know about the
Speaker 2: slick Rick. Were you there for the slick Rick situation?
Speaker 7: Oh yeah when Yeah, it was, slick Rick said some
Speaker 7: I'm crazy to get to me.
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize.
Speaker 2: Well, because the thing is is that when I'm doing shows,
Speaker 2: I don't I never have the vocalist. I have the
Speaker 2: music in my my in ears, so you know I
Speaker 2: have I have reaked down very low, like just so
Speaker 2: I know where he is in the verse and whatnot.
Speaker 2: And apparently, you know, we were sound checking and I
Speaker 2: didn't even realize that, like slick Rick was kind of
Speaker 2: talking slick to me in a way that was very offensive. Wow,
Speaker 2: and what does that mean?
Speaker 3: I'll you, I was there, Come on.
Speaker 2: My version was that I just saw Tarik like the
Speaker 2: music's loud, not to see Toik like something like, wow,
Speaker 2: Toik's really happy to see slick Rick. I didn't realize
Speaker 2: that Tarik was getting serious. And then I took my
Speaker 2: head off. I was like, come on, what's going on?
Speaker 2: And I found out twenty minutes after the fact that
Speaker 2: it already happened, and shit, so I just started was
Speaker 2: having a regular sound check.
Speaker 7: So they're doing their sound checking and I think they
Speaker 7: was doing, uh, what's this. I can't remember the song
Speaker 7: per se, but it's the one that starts with out.
Speaker 3: Enough were Mona Lisa?
Speaker 7: Right? So they starting Mona Lisa over and Rick is,
Speaker 7: you know, coming in with his verse and it was
Speaker 7: one of those days.
Speaker 3: Not much.
Speaker 7: Stopped it, Yo, starting over, speed it up. He's like, like,
Speaker 7: speed it up. So everybody like, okay, what tu you know?
Speaker 7: Start over?
Speaker 3: Did it again?
Speaker 7: He like, yo, speed it up? So everybody's like, then
Speaker 7: how fast you want this ship?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 7: Like they playing it? He stops again reek reeks still
Speaker 7: doing that. Not much to do, yeah, living with him slick.
Speaker 7: Rick goes, yo, come on, speed that ship up, bitch,
Speaker 7: and Tarik goes, who the fuck are you talking to?
Speaker 5: That's what.
Speaker 3: He said, Yo, who who the are you talking to?
Speaker 7: Doug like Rick like, yo, man, I'm just saying mine,
Speaker 7: speed it up, man, like yo, and Rick like Ric like, yo,
Speaker 7: if you if you want it faster and say faster.
Speaker 7: But what you ain't about to do is called nobody
Speaker 7: up here. I'll they motherfucking name, bro, like fuck wrong
Speaker 7: with you? So then like they having words and I'm
Speaker 7: just like, oh God.
Speaker 1: Like to me, it's looking like to.
Speaker 2: You remember I put up I put up an Instagram
Speaker 2: where you take Teddy Pendergrass volume off and looks like
Speaker 2: he's doing stand up comedy.
Speaker 4: Yeah right right.
Speaker 2: Sound So in my mind, I'm like, man, Twek's action
Speaker 2: super extra getting happy seeing slick Rick because it looked
Speaker 2: like like my version of it was like, yo, man,
Speaker 2: I'm doing more the least what you meant I always
Speaker 2: wanted to do, like, you know, like it was exaggerating.
Speaker 6: Audio was, Yo, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 7: Like, who the fuck you think you're talking to dog?
Speaker 7: Like we all grown men up here. I don't know
Speaker 7: what you think this is. Like that's how it wasn't
Speaker 7: real life. And they, you know, they squashed it real quick,
Speaker 7: and you know, Rick was like, Yo, I'm sorry, man,
Speaker 7: just just having a rough day, man, And I know
Speaker 7: you just throwing.
Speaker 5: A huge point none of us your fucking funck with
Speaker 5: Kanye after fucking Greek stands.
Speaker 1: Up you know what, don't play that ship.
Speaker 3: I'm not like that happened.
Speaker 2: It was like a plane where like someone I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe I was storing in first class. I don't know
Speaker 2: what it was, but whatever the case was, like I
Speaker 2: have my headphones on and again Treek's like and I'm like, wait,
Speaker 2: what's going on in Trek was like defending like something
Speaker 2: happened with me with dude. I was sitting next to you,
Speaker 2: and Rek just was ready to you know about that
Speaker 2: action exactly, yeah.
Speaker 7: About that actually, so that's what happened, and uh, you know,
Speaker 7: but I was there. I was saying, this almost happened
Speaker 7: again for me and we're so crazy. Is when it
Speaker 7: happened for me.
Speaker 6: Reek was like, yeah, now you got to go to
Speaker 6: the back, and I'm like, god, god, nigga, like Tina took.
Speaker 3: Me to the back, like Tina had security stay with me.
Speaker 1: I was like, damn nigga, Like was that serious?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I'm here?
Speaker 2: Oh wow, man, how did I not? I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe my version of roads colored glasses just some other
Speaker 2: ship like that.
Speaker 3: Ship you got on the Ones.
Speaker 1: I did not know none of that.
Speaker 2: Was happening, because the thing was I was just laughing
Speaker 2: at them like they was bickering like an old couple
Speaker 2: all night No, I meant run DMC were bickering like
Speaker 2: an old couple all night.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They they couldn't stand each other
Speaker 3: at that point.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, damn just for like, y'all can't get
Speaker 2: it together. And you know, I've spoke to them separately,
Speaker 2: like I've offered to get them a life coach, because literally,
Speaker 2: I think run DMC is probably the only act that
Speaker 2: could do that Rolling Stones action right now if they
Speaker 2: would just drop their ego and and and this is
Speaker 2: now the time for them to really cebmit their legacy
Speaker 2: and important.
Speaker 1: They just cannot.
Speaker 4: Well, I think they started having problems back on the
Speaker 4: Crown Royal album.
Speaker 2: I remember hearing it way back then. I mean that
Speaker 2: was you know, god, that was almost twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: So well that's because he had no voice. But these
Speaker 1: voice is back now. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Sometimes I'm not even you could fix it, and you know, good,
Speaker 7: you better.
Speaker 5: Be a good radio hosting transitions.
Speaker 2: But you know, they they were both willing to meet
Speaker 2: at the middle.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make this ship happen.
Speaker 2: God damn it, Like I don't seventy years.
Speaker 3: Old, Yeah, leave alone.
Speaker 6: You can't fix six A mender of Bridges goddamn all this.
Speaker 5: Year was a good year. Quest love turn fifty.
Speaker 1: Talking about that was terrible. I don't you know.
Speaker 2: His age is a mystery. We'll say that for the
Speaker 2: we'll say that for the sides.
Speaker 5: I will take that because I might be one.
Speaker 1: Year older than I might be two years older than ship.
Speaker 1: I just discovered.
Speaker 2: I just went to my dad's like old papers, realized
Speaker 2: that he didn't even know his true birthday. Like I
Speaker 2: found his old birth certificate and him and his sister
Speaker 2: been celebrating each other's birthdays all their lives. Like shit,
Speaker 2: wow was June third and she was June second, but
Speaker 2: we all their lives.
Speaker 3: Damn, my birthday is June second.
Speaker 1: Wow, you're a Gemini, yes.
Speaker 3: But both but both of me are very nice people.
Speaker 2: You are the nicest Gemini. I know everyone, not so much.
Speaker 3: You know you. You listen. Listen one thing.
Speaker 7: If it was one thing that that Reek and our
Speaker 7: mere knew about me, that when I hit them up
Speaker 7: and say yo, I'm pulling up, they was like all right, cool.
Speaker 7: I always came dolo. I never had no extra niggas
Speaker 7: with me. It was only one past. It was no
Speaker 7: drama because I took my access to being able to
Speaker 7: rock with the roots, very serious facts. So I was like,
Speaker 7: I was like, I'm never gonna let nobody fuck I'm
Speaker 7: on the bus if I needed to go to the
Speaker 7: next city.
Speaker 3: I got a ride.
Speaker 7: Like I never wanted to fuck up that relationship. So
Speaker 7: I've always anytime it didn't matter what they could be,
Speaker 7: like yo exkills, way, yeah, I'm back them outside yo
Speaker 7: yo mini yo yo go, somebody go grab skills. Yeah,
Speaker 7: And it was just like, damn, that's his skills. It's
Speaker 7: just you, Sean. Everybody knew that. It was always just me.
Speaker 7: We always appreciate me, We appreciate that, always just me.
Speaker 2: Okay, So twenty twenty one, what part two? What's what's
Speaker 2: what's our what's our rating for twenty twenty one?
Speaker 5: Better than twenty Where was it better?
Speaker 3: So it's better than last year for sure?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I give it like a C plus Yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean maybe I give it a B definite.
Speaker 1: Ain't getting a my collegiate average C plus.
Speaker 2: Well, you've been doing a lot unpaid bill and we
Speaker 2: don't even get into like what what was the highlight
Speaker 2: of your year?
Speaker 1: A question watching Summer of Soul? No, uh, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was just such a fucking weird year. I've worked
Speaker 1: a lot. I made two movies which are cool and
Speaker 1: that's exciting, and uh, I don't know, it's it was.
Speaker 1: You know, it's hard. It's in my opinion, it's hard
Speaker 1: to gauge anything right now. Right It's like you have
Speaker 1: highs and lows, but everything's sort of like evens out
Speaker 1: in the middle way you weren't there. Did your song
Speaker 1: make it at all? I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't see the rest of the nominations. Uh, your score,
Speaker 2: your song?
Speaker 1: Like are you I'm not nominated. We're not going to
Speaker 1: share in the Oscar Fund, my friend, we will share
Speaker 1: at the Grammy Fund.
Speaker 2: I voted for you though. It's weird. Well, the thing
Speaker 2: is is that I I'm only allowed to voice my
Speaker 2: opinion in the music categories, so I couldn't touch the dot.
Speaker 2: I couldn't even vote in my own category to get
Speaker 2: nominated because I'm not in the dock branch. They're very
Speaker 2: different than music. Like with music, they let you choose
Speaker 2: where you want to place your votes, whereas in the
Speaker 2: academy you have to stay in you is. They're definitely
Speaker 2: about staying in your lane. So I got to vote
Speaker 2: on score and song. But until someone brings me into
Speaker 2: the doc, I think they want to see, like if
Speaker 2: I do two or three of these things, then they'll
Speaker 2: be like, all right, then we'll let you in the
Speaker 2: dock branch.
Speaker 1: But that's why I was a little bit not shocked.
Speaker 2: But I would think strategically, like I wouldn't try to
Speaker 2: vote for the person that is most likely to win.
Speaker 2: If you're being strategic, you know the other dock branch people,
Speaker 2: some of them are in the branch. I wouldn't vote
Speaker 2: for my movie because then that would lessen their chances
Speaker 2: of what you know what I mean, sure, sure, you know.
Speaker 1: How about twenty twenty one is the year you became
Speaker 1: a director, like a film director. For those who do
Speaker 1: not know, very Summer of Soul. Summer Soul was shortlisted
Speaker 1: for an Oscar. That's not like a like a a
Speaker 1: minor award. That's like a major award, and it's very exciting.
Speaker 1: You need some flowers and some ship right now. I
Speaker 1: get a lot of award flowers, but you need to
Speaker 1: shut the fuck up in your Christmas sweater and just
Speaker 1: take it. In a moment, I was.
Speaker 2: Great, man, You guys wore me down. I'm not deflecting.
Speaker 2: I'm not deflecting any praise or any of those things.
Speaker 2: I gladly accept.
Speaker 1: It if we have accomplished anything in the five years
Speaker 1: coming on six. On quest of supreme is that Amir
Speaker 1: doesn't get superbly awkward when we say congratulations. It's fucking fantastic.
Speaker 1: That's true, that's true. No, man, you made a beautiful film. Man,
Speaker 1: I know you made a beautiful film.
Speaker 5: I'll take it thanks that white people love that ship.
Speaker 5: And so that's how I know it.
Speaker 1: White people love, which is.
Speaker 5: Our opinions don't matter. We started the hush for white
Speaker 5: people to be like what they talking about? You know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. But and yes, my mother saw it
Speaker 5: five times, so yes, you won. However, I'm just saying
Speaker 5: that every white person wants to make it known to
Speaker 5: me and booking this show that their white client love
Speaker 5: Summer Soul.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 7: You definitely, Amir, You definitely came out of the gate
Speaker 7: with something special.
Speaker 3: Man, and as your friend, I was.
Speaker 7: Super proud of you watching it because standing back, I
Speaker 7: was like, damn, you know, I was like, well, you know, damn,
Speaker 7: my nigga made a movie. I was like, at least
Speaker 7: he ain't coming to America too shots.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Look, I
Speaker 4: was not coming to America too, like I didn't. It
Speaker 4: had to happen exactly is before you watched it?
Speaker 1: Right, I knew all I knew. It was just a
Speaker 1: nostalgia play.
Speaker 4: I just wanted fan service and it was just like
Speaker 4: watching a family reunion and I got to see all
Speaker 4: my people and.
Speaker 3: That was it.
Speaker 1: National lampood people. Go ahead.
Speaker 7: I just got one question for everybody. Did you watch
Speaker 7: it more than once?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not, but.
Speaker 5: Let's be twice. That's the sad part.
Speaker 1: So I was gonna say, so, let's be fair.
Speaker 2: So in twenty twenty one, in the era of just
Speaker 2: never ending content, is there anything that we're watching more
Speaker 2: than once?
Speaker 3: I watched Someone Sold more than once.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I watched Video Music Box documentary more than once.
Speaker 3: Like it's it's.
Speaker 7: Some good content out there, and I'm like, I'm gonna
Speaker 7: pull this up even if I just got it off
Speaker 7: for background noise and I don't.
Speaker 3: I'm paying attention to it, but I'm kind of not.
Speaker 7: I will never in my life look at coming to
Speaker 7: America too again.
Speaker 5: Ever, I watched I WT you three times.
Speaker 4: You saw Dolomite, and I did like Dolomite. Dolamite was great.
Speaker 5: I like, And I rewind true Story a few times.
Speaker 4: So the best thing that is the best true story
Speaker 4: is the best thing Kevin Hard has ever done.
Speaker 5: It is acting.
Speaker 7: It is okay. And he shot it in Philly. I mean,
Speaker 7: you should see it. He shot it in Philly and I.
Speaker 1: Won't watch it.
Speaker 5: And he shot it in Philly. And for the first
Speaker 5: time a whole TV show licensed the whole catalog to.
Speaker 4: Gambling gambling huff all over this.
Speaker 5: Year the fiftieth anniversary of Gamble uf until in Nashville.
Speaker 5: So it's really dope.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you you should watch it. You would have. You
Speaker 3: would enjoy it. I mean.
Speaker 1: The Power of the Dog. Did you watch The Power
Speaker 1: of the Dog? You know what was that?
Speaker 2: The one with Benedict coming back? Yeah, it's called broke
Speaker 2: I didn't like. I went to sleep on it.
Speaker 1: I was. I tried. It's like broke Back Hill. It's
Speaker 1: anyway broke Back Hill. No, you know what broke back
Speaker 1: I started when when you're an Academy member, not only
Speaker 1: do they send us, are you going to start sat
Speaker 1: like that?
Speaker 3: That's two like five minutes.
Speaker 1: Just showing you how it is.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: But the thing is also they keep they keep tabs
Speaker 2: on how active you are as an Academy member.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, Like because.
Speaker 2: I wasn't, you know. I mean I see movies on
Speaker 2: my own, which is what I did before, Like I
Speaker 2: never like looked at they used to send DVDs or whatever.
Speaker 2: But now they have like their own streaming service. So
Speaker 2: there's like one hundred and sixty four films you're supposed
Speaker 2: to go through. I don't know if I'm gonna watch
Speaker 2: all one hundred and sixty four. I watched Denzel in Macbeth.
Speaker 1: Macbeth. Yeah, I got to check.
Speaker 2: It only because, like you know, I mean I've read
Speaker 2: it so much in school and whatnot, Like I'm curious
Speaker 2: to Macbeth.
Speaker 1: Zel do I saw did he play? Did he play himself?
Speaker 1: In training day? In Macbeth? There was in my head
Speaker 1: like ha ha.
Speaker 2: Like I thought, that's what I'm tired of people.
Speaker 5: There are too many actors who play themselves that I'm
Speaker 5: noticed in these days, and I'm like, everybody playing because.
Speaker 3: Himself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about it. They're talking Elizabethan. It shot
Speaker 2: beautifully I don't know if it's it's gonna be very
Speaker 2: interesting to see, Like I know the tracks is going
Speaker 2: to be like Denzel Is Macbeth.
Speaker 1: But as an Academy member. As an Academy member, how
Speaker 1: do you what is your favorite film of the year.
Speaker 1: I just saw a Pig, which.
Speaker 2: Basically Nicholas Cage was like once like a James Beard
Speaker 2: micheline chef that went off the grid and his his
Speaker 2: beloved pet pig gets kidnapped. His his his pig is
Speaker 2: like the best truffle pig there is. You know, you
Speaker 2: need pigs to search for truffles and then you sell
Speaker 2: those truffles for gazillions of dollars and you know, so
Speaker 2: it's basically a story of a kidnapped truffle pig that
Speaker 2: Nicholas Cage spends the entire movie looking for. But it's
Speaker 2: it's it's intensive ship. It's definitely going to be like
Speaker 2: one of the one of the sounds.
Speaker 7: Like one of the joints sounds like pigs. Do it
Speaker 7: sounds like a pig came to America?
Speaker 2: No, I'm just what do you call it? Also, Drive
Speaker 2: My Car. I believe Drive My Car is probably the
Speaker 2: film that's going to be uh, this year's Oscar winner?
Speaker 1: What is this about?
Speaker 3: West Side? Dollars?
Speaker 1: Like he's a tick tick move forty dollars?
Speaker 5: Bill?
Speaker 3: Laugh at that west Side story made forty eight dollars?
Speaker 3: Stop it did?
Speaker 1: Why is that a joke?
Speaker 3: No, it's not.
Speaker 5: That's you know the rest of the Bill's joke. I'm saying, wait,
Speaker 5: because he made though he made those other two movies,
Speaker 5: so he.
Speaker 1: Can't be Musicals don't make movies. Let's get it to it.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean.
Speaker 1: Music, musicals don't make money, is what I was trying
Speaker 1: to take this much? Are you guys more gun shy? Now?
Speaker 2: Well, since you kind of did Hamilton already, is there
Speaker 2: a need to do Hamilton the movie? Or do you
Speaker 2: guys consider what you guys did on.
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: But that's the performance? But will there be a movie
Speaker 2: sized version of Hamilton?
Speaker 1: Of course you'd be a dumb ass not to make it.
Speaker 1: Does anybody gonna see it? I don't know, but they'll
Speaker 1: make it?
Speaker 2: So wait, is it true that west Side? Even though
Speaker 2: it's getting crazy acclaim?
Speaker 5: What the claim gives people don't see?
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, people that.
Speaker 1: Three hundred million dollars this past weekend, and and West
Speaker 1: Side Story made about ten.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so here's the thing.
Speaker 7: Here's the thing, because this I saw La Yeah, I
Speaker 7: saw Layah's frustration when I'm mere says this, and this is.
Speaker 1: A always frustration.
Speaker 7: This is an issue that I've always had with a
Speaker 7: Mirror from the day I met him.
Speaker 3: Like, it's like it's.
Speaker 7: The it's the acclaim a mirror with Like we would
Speaker 7: be talking and you know, I'm miror with you know,
Speaker 7: because he obsesses over right, We'll be looking at We'll
Speaker 7: be looking at the source and have a fucking on
Speaker 7: the back of the bus and have a four hour
Speaker 7: conversation about how somebody saw fit to only get these
Speaker 7: niggas three mics like and I'll be like, I mean,
Speaker 7: why do you care so much? Just a UGK album?
Speaker 7: Why the fuck you care? And He'll be like, nah, bro,
Speaker 7: you don't understand skills. It deserves more than that, and
Speaker 7: I'm like so so later on in life, you know,
Speaker 7: when the Roots would drop albums, I only paid attention
Speaker 7: to those reviews. I didn't look at nobody else's They
Speaker 7: could rate a jay Z album. I wouldn't give a
Speaker 7: fuck when they put a roots album in a in
Speaker 7: a in a publication. I would automatically go look at
Speaker 7: the reviews, like Snap they only gave, They only gave Phynology,
Speaker 7: you know, is no Snap. So it was always a
Speaker 7: thing with me and our mirror about he cares so
Speaker 7: much and I just didn't, I guess because I never
Speaker 7: put out those I ain't never put out that many albums.
Speaker 1: So there's too much.
Speaker 5: It's a whole nother thing, and I'm like, there's.
Speaker 2: Too much for me to take in. And my thing
Speaker 2: is that I at least want to see what the
Speaker 2: aggregate is as far as the general opinion of critics
Speaker 2: that I like what they think about something before I say, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take two hours too, what about?
Speaker 3: What do you what about?
Speaker 5: When the people say that they like it or they
Speaker 5: don't like, what about? Regular people gather and it's a
Speaker 5: whole bunch of them and they like it and they say.
Speaker 1: It's good regular people. While I'm an industry person, he's
Speaker 1: an Academy member.
Speaker 5: There are different kind of combinations that you can do
Speaker 5: with that.
Speaker 7: All I remember being in the studio with it, like God,
Speaker 7: bless God, blessed Rich. I would be in the studio
Speaker 7: with Rich and Dice. You know what I mean, Like
Speaker 7: these motherfuckers they on the road like it's just me,
Speaker 7: Dice and Rich just working on hooks and shit, and
Speaker 7: then like it like Dice might say some shit. I
Speaker 7: might say some shit and Dice will go lay it down,
Speaker 7: and then fucking Rich will come in and Rich will
Speaker 7: be like, yeah, Nah, the fucking Ye're not a publication,
Speaker 7: They're not gonna like this shit. I'm like Rich, like,
Speaker 7: are we writing for pumplications?
Speaker 1: Rich?
Speaker 2: He's thinking to Rich, freak out. The barbershops lockdown. Back then,
Speaker 2: I used to care what I didn't care what Pitchfork thought,
Speaker 2: but I did care the fact that there's a point
Speaker 2: in two thousand and four where your average local publication,
Speaker 2: like you're whatever, the San Francisco or the Oklahoma or
Speaker 2: the Saint Louis version of the Village Voice, I would
Speaker 2: notice that, like, Wow, they're just going to see what
Speaker 2: Pitchwork says and then plagiarize the same.
Speaker 1: Thing for their own review.
Speaker 2: Like there's a point where after the arts, where after
Speaker 2: two thousand, where I believe critics stopped like listening to
Speaker 2: a record informing their own opinion, and they decided that
Speaker 2: like a great example is I got to bring it
Speaker 2: back to old boy beautiful, dark, twisted fantasy, where no, no, no,
Speaker 2: we could take that away, we could look at hell
Speaker 2: haf no fury clips. Now, that particular review in Pitchfork
Speaker 2: always bothered me because of the way that it was
Speaker 2: like such a I mean, they were salivating. It was like,
Speaker 2: to me the highest form of like white fetishism of
Speaker 2: like cocaine street black life, to the point where I
Speaker 2: found it offensive. But everyone, every little blog and critics
Speaker 2: sort of made that their north star because it was
Speaker 2: like it was basically like the writers at ESNL just
Speaker 2: like salivating over like what real street life is like,
Speaker 2: like snowing the bluff, but a more successful version of like, hey,
Speaker 2: let's visit the hood and see what it's like and
Speaker 2: woa So reading like, did I agree that that album
Speaker 2: was incredible?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Did I have a problem with the writers at Pitchfork
Speaker 2: salivating over it in some sort of black fetish way. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: So it's not like I ride with it, but I'm
Speaker 1: just very.
Speaker 5: Much a will to validate what writers at Pitchfork say
Speaker 5: when you didn't appreciate them salivating over that shit and
Speaker 5: being like the white people that they are the thing.
Speaker 2: Is is that at the time Critical Claim is all
Speaker 2: the roots had to justify their existence on a label
Speaker 2: that they weren't making money. We weren't DMX selling four million.
Speaker 1: You got you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Critical Critical Love, that was all that was your
Speaker 4: lifeline that I.
Speaker 7: Needed to hear that I needed. I needed to hear that.
Speaker 7: I mean, that's what I.
Speaker 3: Needed to hear.
Speaker 1: That's why Critical Claims album.
Speaker 5: Why I continue it because at a certain point it
Speaker 5: sounds like you care about about three or four white
Speaker 5: people say, because the critics who really matter are usually
Speaker 5: non non black people anyway, So when you say you
Speaker 5: don't care about what regular people say because you're an
Speaker 5: industry person, it.
Speaker 1: Sounds okay, well you gotta speak loud.
Speaker 5: Like I said, it sounds a little out of touch
Speaker 5: to some That's what I was saying. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate the four.
Speaker 2: Platforms, Like I think now I think, I think I
Speaker 2: get what you're saying, Like I think what it is
Speaker 2: what I'm hearing you say mere is like when he
Speaker 2: says he's an industry person, I don't think it's necessarily
Speaker 2: like you're.
Speaker 4: Looking at it like I need these people to validate me.
Speaker 4: It's just more so I need to know who with
Speaker 4: me so I can leverage them for other opportunities.
Speaker 1: You know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's not about whether.
Speaker 5: You you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: It's like we're not selling We ain't selling Hello copies.
Speaker 7: But if fucking Rolling Stone give us a good review,
Speaker 7: I should have made sense to these motherfucking suits.
Speaker 5: I get it, Thank you, And that's a lesson for
Speaker 5: all of us. Everybody didn't understand.
Speaker 7: Me, but me and Ameya used to go back and
Speaker 7: forth over the show. I used to it used to
Speaker 7: grind my motherfucking gears. But now I understand.
Speaker 3: I'm glad.
Speaker 7: I'm glad after all these years, I finally got we
Speaker 7: haven't understanding.
Speaker 5: Hold up all right, y'all. So that was part one
Speaker 5: of this week's episode. Stay tuned because next week, next Wednesday,
Speaker 5: Part two, and you don't want to miss it.
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