00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. 00:00:17 Speaker 2: But you're a guest to my home. 00:00:21 Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, your own presences presence enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:48 Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Bridger Winecker. Here we are. We're in the backyard, of course. What's going on? Well, I've had quite a morning. I went to the store and bought celery. And okay, let's get into the podcast. I'm very excited about our guest. I really am. It's Natalie Morales. Natalie, welcome to the podcast. I'm Richer. 00:01:17 Speaker 2: How are you? 00:01:18 Speaker 3: I guess I'm unsettled. You are by what by buying the celery? I suppose do you not like celery? Well, I don't mind celery. I'm buying it. Actually four our. 00:01:28 Speaker 2: Dog, oh who needs to eat celery? 00:01:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, she eats celery every morning with her breakfast. 00:01:33 Speaker 2: As a treater, as a medication. 00:01:35 Speaker 3: Well, according to my boyfriend, and I haven't looked into this just for health purposes. 00:01:41 Speaker 2: Like celery juice in the morning, like he's pultrow. Your dog's gonna be. 00:01:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, yess, it's like a dog fed diet sort of thing. 00:01:48 Speaker 2: Do you call it a bone? 00:01:49 Speaker 3: I don't call it a bone. The only word she knows for food art is actually just treat. She doesn't even know food. Interesting. 00:01:57 Speaker 2: I give my dog carrots and call them bones, and he's very EXAs anything. That's all, you know, stick shaped. I'm like, it's a bone. 00:02:03 Speaker 3: My dog's getting carrots as well, little baby carrots. 00:02:06 Speaker 2: Listen, call it a bone. It's very exciting for them. Yeah. 00:02:10 Speaker 3: She I ran out of celery last week for a couple of days and she began eating house plants. 00:02:15 Speaker 2: Oh, so she likes it. 00:02:17 Speaker 3: I guess she loves a bitter green. 00:02:19 Speaker 2: I hate celery. 00:02:20 Speaker 3: You don't you hate it? 00:02:21 Speaker 2: I hate celery. I don't mind it for a sporadic crunch in a tuna salad, But as if I can really taste it, I'm not into it. 00:02:30 Speaker 3: Interesting because to me, it feels like a very mild flavor. 00:02:34 Speaker 2: No, it tastes you know the thing that people say about cilantro, That's how I feel about celery. It tastes really strong to me. 00:02:41 Speaker 3: It's maybe genetic or something. 00:02:42 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I'm Cuban. So we don't need a lot of celery. We're not part of our Miraquois. 00:02:46 Speaker 3: Who eats a lot of like what culture eats a lot of it? 00:02:50 Speaker 2: So in every culture, I think there's a except for maybe American culture, there's a basis of cooking. And for the French, a miraquois is like celery, onions and carrots, that's how you start, right. For Cubans and a lot of Caribbean cultures, it's onions, garlic, green pepper, much more flavor and yeah, so it's a different flavor entirely right. 00:03:14 Speaker 3: And celery, I guess it's is it salty? Is that what we're talking about? 00:03:18 Speaker 2: Celery tastes to me like soap. It tastes like it tastes like a like a strong antibacterial soap. That's truly how I feel that. 00:03:27 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, so that is the cilantro situation. 00:03:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, it has a it has a causticness to it. 00:03:33 Speaker 3: Interesting. Yeah, Yeah, I guess I'm just very blessed that everything tastes good to. 00:03:38 Speaker 2: Me, that you are incredibly blessed. 00:03:39 Speaker 3: I can just go through any male eating eating eat. You know what a super taster is, I know what a super there's another soup or something like with faces. Right, Oh, I don't know what that is where you can like memorize. Now, I may be creating a thing people have. I don't know, but I'm pretty sure there's a thing where you can, like, you see a face once? Am I talking about a photographic memory? Maybeybe maybe super taster? What is a supers My friend. 00:04:02 Speaker 2: My friend Matt, who I used to live next door to in this apartment, I had like a little get together once and he brought over these strips and he was like, everyone, I've got super taster strips. And there are these strips that if you are a super taster, meaning you have more taste buds in your tongue than the average person, this strip will taste incredibly better to you, and if you're not a super taster, you will taste nothing. And I was, of course a super taster, and this person I was dating at the time was not a super taster, falling apart and he was like, you're just being dramatic. You don't taste any He did not. He was terrible, but he was like, yeah, he did not believe. And my two best friends were also super tasted and he's like, you guys are all just dramatic. This is not true. And also my friend Matt who brought up with the supertaster things, was also but it was about half and half of us half of us and a half. But it tasted so incredibly bad to me that I had to spit it out and wash my mouth. And this person I was dating nothing tasting nothing at all. 00:04:58 Speaker 3: So that was the beginning of the end of the relationship. 00:05:01 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it was. 00:05:02 Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, because you're never gonna be able to go to the same. 00:05:04 Speaker 2: Wrest trust the person like that. 00:05:05 Speaker 3: I cannot trust this person. 00:05:06 Speaker 2: They recommend anything. No, no, no, no, I can't trust you. I guess. 00:05:11 Speaker 3: Yeah. My guess is I'm not a super Yeah. 00:05:14 Speaker 2: If you like everything super taste, I. 00:05:16 Speaker 3: Probably have like four taste buns. I don't. For you. 00:05:19 Speaker 2: Man, that's great. You can enjoy so many things. 00:05:22 Speaker 3: I suppose. Am I enjoying them? Or am I just not experiencing them? That's the big question. 00:05:28 Speaker 2: Listen, as long as you're happy. 00:05:29 Speaker 3: As long as I'm happy, And I'm not. 00:05:31 Speaker 2: Okay, sorry about that? 00:05:34 Speaker 3: What was I going to say? I am a super texture super texture me too? 00:05:39 Speaker 2: For foods and clothes and all that. 00:05:41 Speaker 3: Right, Oh, clothes interesting? Well probably? 00:05:44 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:05:44 Speaker 3: Food wise, what is like the mushrooms? Mushroom? 00:05:47 Speaker 2: I don't mind the taste of mushrooms. I cannot. I can't deal with the. 00:05:50 Speaker 3: Texture of them, kind of the gummy, chewy, chewy mushrooming. 00:05:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like mochi. Some people would say similar, but I disagree way that the break is different. 00:06:01 Speaker 3: Well, and Mochi's a different flavor, so like maybe that combined with that texture, sure. 00:06:05 Speaker 2: Break like once your teeth break through with the mushroom is different than with a mochi. And I don't like the mushroom version of it. 00:06:11 Speaker 3: I really don't cooked. You can't eat a mushroom only. 00:06:14 Speaker 2: If they're chopped really small. It's just I can't. I can't bite into it. I don't mind the taste of it, but I can't bite into any mushroom. It's really it's slimy and gummy. It's so gross to me. 00:06:25 Speaker 3: I mean, I completely disagree. 00:06:28 Speaker 2: Really you like that the texture of mushrooms, I love it actually interesting, It's kind of like a it's almost like a chew toy. I also didn't grow up with eating mushrooms, so it was a new adult thing that I was like, you can't do that. 00:06:38 Speaker 3: I'm pretty late into eating mushrooms as well. It was probably my early twenties when I started to actually believe in the mushrooms. Yeah, I avoided them up until that point. 00:06:47 Speaker 2: You know what's the biggest bullshit of mushrooms that I'm a vegetarian and constantly people are like, great, have a fucking mushroom burger, and mushrooms have no protein, little to no protein. It's a lie. It is not a replacement for a pro. 00:07:00 Speaker 3: This is my big question about mushrooms in general. I feel like they offer no nutritional value barely. 00:07:05 Speaker 2: They're almost water. They're like iceberg lettuce. Yeah, the ones that you know make you like have an ego death. 00:07:11 Speaker 3: But other than that, yeah, it's just kind of a nothing. 00:07:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's water. 00:07:16 Speaker 3: It's a packing peanut sort of situation. But you think you would think that fungus would have all sorts of properties. 00:07:22 Speaker 2: Some of them do. But it's a little scary to me, and it doesn't. It doesn't feel that good in my mouth, so I stay away. Mostly. 00:07:29 Speaker 3: I will say I do need a mushroom chopped up. If it's like a little are those button mushrooms that they like saw tee up. Yeah, then it's just it is kind of just wet and too much, just too much. I need at least half volume chopped up. 00:07:41 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:07:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, and a mushroom burger. Are they just putting a Portobello mushrooms just the cap bullshit. I worked at a bakery. I'm not going to name the bakery because they accused me of burglary at one point, but they had a mushroom sand which where you're just dropping a full mushroom in there. Yeah, that makes no sense at all. 00:07:58 Speaker 2: You know what I don't like about a porn bella? What about any mushroom? Really? That underside part it's scary, The little fins gild, So you can't tell me that doesn't look off. 00:08:10 Speaker 3: It looks wild. 00:08:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like if I ate, if I was, like I love mushrooms, I probably still wouldn't look at that part, you know, like it's it's weird. It creeps me out. 00:08:18 Speaker 3: So I'm wondering now if you have and we've talked about this on this podcast before, and I can't remember the word tripophobia. 00:08:24 Speaker 2: No I don't, but my best friend does. 00:08:25 Speaker 3: Okay, she has it really bad. 00:08:27 Speaker 2: She can't drive behind like a truck holding a bunch of pipes like she can't. She can't look at a sunflower. She can't. She has a hard time, and she has a hard time with that. I don't have tripophobia tripophobia. I don't know how you pronounce it. But I can't look at gourds like pimply bar yeah, because there's like they're horrible to look at it. 00:08:48 Speaker 3: They look like they have a skin condition. 00:08:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's really bad dermatologists. I don't like gords in the like October at Trader does. Is a hard time for me to avert my gaze a lot. But I don't think I have that. I can. I can look at many, you know, round shapes and stuff. It's just the gill. The gills are gills. They're just scary. They feel like alien and like like I don't understand them and they're hiding something and there's too many flaps and I don't I don't know. I don't trust it. 00:09:17 Speaker 3: This is a little trick I use personally when I'm trying a new food. I think, what if I was on a different planet, of course I would eat this because I would want to try it. So, but that often it doesn't taste good, but at least I've got myself. 00:09:29 Speaker 2: But when mushrooms fit into that, would you look at a mushroom? Go that? Want to put that in my mouth? Like that? Like as opposed to strawberry. 00:09:36 Speaker 3: If I were on another planet. Yeah, And now are we saying more inviting to you? Are we saying like crash landed and found these or the cultures providing. 00:09:43 Speaker 2: Them, so you found them in the straw Well, actually. 00:09:46 Speaker 3: Strawberries have the little i mean seeds trip of phobia and I don't have it, but I would look at that and think, why does it have so many little dots? 00:09:53 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, but does it would it look more appetizing to you? 00:09:56 Speaker 3: Well? Yes, absolutely, it's a beautiful for it is beautiful. And the strawberries they are kind of the mushroom of the fruit world because they are well, no, they're not the opposite, because they're full of nutrients and bar and. 00:10:11 Speaker 2: Sugar, vitamin A. 00:10:12 Speaker 3: I feel like, so you can hear as many strawberries as you want. 00:10:15 Speaker 2: You know, they also whiten your teeth. 00:10:17 Speaker 3: That can't possibly look it up? How many strawberries do you have to eat? 00:10:20 Speaker 2: I think you can brush your teeth with strawberries and they whiten them a little bit. They might be bad because of the sugar, but they do have a whitening effect, is what I've heard. 00:10:28 Speaker 3: I feel like you would have to eat so many strawberries that your teeth would begin to turn red first. 00:10:33 Speaker 2: Maybe, but I think it's the kind of thing where it's like a it's like a tone, you know, like a bleaching tone, where the particular red of the strawberry is actually a kind of a blue. 00:10:43 Speaker 3: A blue red. 00:10:43 Speaker 2: You know, what are we talking of? We're getting into it. 00:10:47 Speaker 3: It's kind of a blue interesting. 00:10:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, a blue red. You've heard of the term of blue red. 00:10:51 Speaker 3: I've never heard the story. 00:10:52 Speaker 2: Really, it's a term for the undertone of a red. It's a blue red favors some people. I'm teaching you so much. 00:10:58 Speaker 3: I know, I'm glad I brought you here today. 00:11:01 Speaker 2: A blue red looks better on some people with lipstick wise, and then an orange red looks better on some other It's the undertone. Oh, yes, I wonder strawberries are a blue red. 00:11:08 Speaker 3: Where do you think I would fall? As far as lipstick goes. 00:11:11 Speaker 2: I think you could pull off any red. 00:11:13 Speaker 3: Wow, I love to hear that. 00:11:14 Speaker 2: I really do. 00:11:15 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna get every every color. 00:11:17 Speaker 2: I can't. I look like Ronald McDonald. My mouth is really big. I have to have a blue red or like a brick red. 00:11:23 Speaker 3: And so is blue red headed towards purple. 00:11:26 Speaker 2: Yes, it has that just an undertone, a cooler undertone as opposed to a warmer underton. 00:11:30 Speaker 3: Okay, interesting, but I can just do any lipstick I can, and I think, so, Okay, that's good to know. I'm going to keep that in my back pocket. Do you know what I want to ask you about is have you ever been taken in by a salesperson, a door to door salesperson. 00:11:44 Speaker 2: No, it happened to me about what what do they sell you? Those knives? 00:11:48 Speaker 3: I the other night, somebody knocked on the door. I open it. There's this man standing there in a little like regular clothes, well maybe like a briefcase. Say it again, briefcase, No, briefcase, okay, pretty regular clothes, a polo. But then he had one of those little like reflective vests on, like construction vests. Starts talking to me about like saving on my power, my energy bill, has me look at my energy bill and I should have asked more questions. I started to think it seemed like he worked for the state. So I'm like, I'm on board with. 00:12:15 Speaker 2: This person because of the vest. 00:12:16 Speaker 3: Because of the vest. 00:12:17 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, the vest follls a lot of people. You can just got those on Amazon. 00:12:20 Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I'm finding out. This is part of a costume. He scheduled appointment for the next night for someone else, and the window was seven to nine pm, which I should alarm bells should have been going on. 00:12:29 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:12:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, another guy shows up in a vest. He comes to the backyard. We're sitting here for an hour. I'm giving him every piece of my information. I'm like, doing one of those solar energy Was he selling you on solar panels? Okay, which are not bad, But clearly he was from a company. He was not from the state of California. So I started to feel like I had been I mean, if he had been more upfront, maybe I would have been on four year solar. But then there were so many little red flags. Was like the say, like doing the savings on paper and asking me which one I would prefer. That's not something a government of so I had to say. Eventually, I had to just lie and say, well, I'm going to call my boyfriend and we're going to talk about this. Yeah, and now he's out of my life, but he has all of my information. I'm not kidding. He's They had me to do one of those surveys to prove it was me. Where I'm like saying, which of these streets have you lived on? I don't know. I guess you do that I'm a moron. I'm an idiot. Oh no, I feel like a real fla. 00:13:31 Speaker 2: You've learned your lesson now? No, Okay, well let me let me tell you something. Anyone knocks on your door, you don't answer, and then if you must answer, you ask them who they are. They should not be asking you any questions. 00:13:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess to really get into it. Yeah, and this is the second time in a month that I've had to door to door people. I had Jehovah's Witnesses just a couple of weeks ago. That was a more pleasant exchange. 00:13:53 Speaker 2: You could put a no soliciting sign on your door if you like. 00:13:55 Speaker 3: Do those work? 00:13:56 Speaker 2: I think they can't. I think it's like like I think there's like laws about them soliciting when you've said no soliciting. 00:14:02 Speaker 3: But then what do I do? I call nine one one. No, they won't knock, but if they do. 00:14:07 Speaker 2: You could shoot them, I think. 00:14:10 Speaker 3: So Okay, I'm going and start answering the door with a gun. That's my new I. 00:14:16 Speaker 2: Don't think you should do that. I don't condone that. I'm just saying I think that's the risk they take. Okay, when you put a warning on your property, it's not heated. You know, it's their responsibility. 00:14:26 Speaker 3: Okay, because I feel like I were talking out. 00:14:29 Speaker 2: Of my ass here, but I feel like that's the case. 00:14:31 Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to spend otherwise. 00:14:32 Speaker 2: Why would people use those signs if they didn't work? 00:14:36 Speaker 3: Because people want to believe. Sure, there's that desire or that need for hope. 00:14:41 Speaker 2: But if you were a solicitor and you saw no soliciting sign, would you knock on that door? 00:14:44 Speaker 3: Now I'm wondering. I, Well, the problem is is I'm just so far from the solicitor mindset. Yeah, I'm trying to get into the solicitor mindset. I would knock great, because you have to do whatever, you whatever. 00:14:58 Speaker 2: You are a dangerous liver, yeah, you live dangerously. 00:15:01 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I would knock, and I would be pushy because that's what you have to do, is ador to door salesman, all right, or you have to literally I mean, these people deceived me. 00:15:09 Speaker 2: I think we need to look into the laws of the no soliciting signs before you. Yeah, I mean, maybe that's the first thing they tell you when you start your ador to salesman career. 00:15:18 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's probably one of the things. Maybe maybe I put blood on the door, a little lamb's blood passover that situation. That might work. Yeah, I just I'm just curious about that because I felt incredibly stupid. 00:15:32 Speaker 2: I'm sorry about that. I'm I think I'm mistrustful of people to a fault, perhaps, so I go in the other direction. I might have missliked someone being like, no, really, I want to give you a million dollars and I'm like, no, you scam artists go with me. 00:15:46 Speaker 3: That is who I am usually. But I guess it's the vest. 00:15:50 Speaker 2: What the vest? Yeah, you can't trust the vest. You can't trust. 00:15:53 Speaker 3: I'm gonna start wearing a vest the authority that it provides. 00:15:56 Speaker 2: Again, you could pull it off. 00:15:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to start walking around in a and the brightest red lipstick I can possibly find, and I'm going to own it own the world. 00:16:04 Speaker 2: You know what else helps you get into anywhere you want? Wearing all black? Like any event publicist? Do you work there? You get in anywhere? 00:16:13 Speaker 3: That makes perfect sense to me. 00:16:16 Speaker 2: You're on your phone and you're excuse me, excuse me, and you just walk in. 00:16:20 Speaker 3: Knock on a door in all black. That feels like you're about to commit a crime. Yes, yes, so that's the one. 00:16:24 Speaker 2: Not getting into a house yet, You've got to have a. 00:16:26 Speaker 3: Vest when you knock on a door you're in all black when you're headed to the Austin. 00:16:29 Speaker 2: I bet a vest would work to get in those places too. 00:16:33 Speaker 3: That's true because they're like all this guy's working on something and the whole event could crumble. 00:16:37 Speaker 2: Right if I don't let him in. 00:16:38 Speaker 3: Right. These are things we need to know that we need to discuss publicly so everyone can get on board with them. Yes, wear a vest if you want control. Ignore people who have a vest. 00:16:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, question of ust question of vest, Yeah, I need to see other ID besides your vest. 00:16:54 Speaker 3: I'm going to start living my life with that little model of question of vest. 00:16:58 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:17:00 Speaker 3: Well okay, so talking about you know tricking people and being a problem in people's lives, just kind of showing up unwanted. I was excited to have you on the podcast. 00:17:12 Speaker 2: Thank you you're no longer. 00:17:14 Speaker 3: I was very excited anticipating the day. I thought, Natalie's wonderful. We're going to have a great time. Nothing will go wrong. The podcast is called I said no gifts. 00:17:25 Speaker 2: I know, I'm sorry. 00:17:26 Speaker 3: Okay, so you do know, I know we're really getting back to this knocking on the door set. 00:17:31 Speaker 2: Really look at the name until I got here and I and I missed that part and I actually brought you two gifts. 00:17:37 Speaker 3: Oh, you've got to a kidding. 00:17:38 Speaker 2: I know, I really overdid it. 00:17:40 Speaker 3: Okay, well, deep breathing, Yeah, trying to control myself. Should I open them here on the podcast? 00:17:48 Speaker 2: I feel like, if that's a thing you normally do on your podcast called I said no gifts, that maybe you should like just to keep it, just to keep your listeners, you know, engaged. 00:17:58 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know that this podcast has any rules. I can't I can't even remember the last one if I opened a gift or not. But if you insist, yeah, let's get into it. Okay, it's in a little white cloth bag. Is this a gunny sack? 00:18:33 Speaker 2: What is a gunny sack I know idea what a gunny sack is. 00:18:35 Speaker 3: I feel like that's kind of the thing you do. Well, No, it's not what you do in a potato sack race, because that's a potato sack. 00:18:41 Speaker 2: A gunny sack sounds like a bad word. 00:18:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, it kind of does. Actually get on Urban Dictionary. Think of what it is, and it's now out there as a disgusting word, gunny sack. This is a white cloth sack that I'm going to dive into here. 00:18:59 Speaker 2: And I don't know why it's a salty on it. I've noticed that after. 00:19:01 Speaker 3: All on the little tags. 00:19:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have no idea. 00:19:04 Speaker 3: I don't know where that attitude you brought to the podcast what. 00:19:07 Speaker 2: You said Celery was earlier. 00:19:08 Speaker 3: Oh that's interesting. 00:19:10 Speaker 2: Should we come full circle here? 00:19:12 Speaker 3: Should I take them out in any orders? No? 00:19:14 Speaker 2: No, go ahead. You pick whatever feels the texture feels more interesting. 00:19:18 Speaker 3: Feeling a cube, So you can bring a cube. It could be a Rubik's cube, it could be anything. 00:19:26 Speaker 2: Oh you unwrapped it already. 00:19:28 Speaker 3: Oh oh oh, I unwrapped the tissue fell off in the Yes, I'm going crazy over this. Actually, I mean, I don't know quite what it is because it looks like chocolate chips to me. 00:19:39 Speaker 2: Read what it says, because I have mostly brought it to you because of the. 00:19:41 Speaker 3: Name dark hot pistoles, dark chocolate, dark hot chocolate, dark hot chocolate pistoles. What. 00:19:49 Speaker 2: I just love that the way that that sounded. And someone gave that to me in the winter, okay, and I didn't use it, And I thought, it's the beginning of summer, it's getting hot. What could be better for Bridger than dark hot chocolate that he could make with crystols. There's some instructions there. 00:20:07 Speaker 3: Yes, this is pour two ounce boiling water over four ounces of chocolate, whisked together until melted and frothy. Yeah, that sounds incredible. 00:20:15 Speaker 2: I would look at the expiration because it might be expired, but it is chocolates, it might not matter. Well. 00:20:20 Speaker 3: This this is the thing I'm learning about expiration dates pretty recently, is that they're almost always a lie. 00:20:25 Speaker 2: Right, especially with chocolate. I feel like, yeah, chocolate, but I hate dark chocolate. 00:20:31 Speaker 3: You hate dark chocolate taster, So I. 00:20:34 Speaker 2: Figured, you know, you might be at the high to summer you might want of those hot chocolate nights. 00:20:40 Speaker 3: I mean we're headed into June gloom. 00:20:42 Speaker 2: True, there's going to be some more rain for us. Probably. 00:20:45 Speaker 3: I don't need you to say that to me, because I have been and we're not going to get into this too much because this has been the truly hours of a podcast at this point. The house flooded. Oh no, just escaping that. Oh God, nightmare. I I truly have nightmares about it. 00:21:01 Speaker 2: That's awful. That sounds terrible. So wait, if April showers bring mayflowers, what does June gloom bring nothing? 00:21:07 Speaker 3: July boom? And then we have the fireworks. Great, there we go. 00:21:11 Speaker 2: Great. 00:21:13 Speaker 3: June gloom is something I don't feel like most people know about Los Angeles, and so I think people probably will be like, Oh, let's have a summer trip in June, and they come here and it's kind of depressing. 00:21:23 Speaker 2: Although I love a song called June Gloom. That is it? Jenny Lewis, who say it? Who is it? I used to love that song. That's how I know the June gloom. 00:21:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, June Gloom. 00:21:32 Speaker 2: I love. 00:21:33 Speaker 3: It's a nice little break from the summer heat, and it prepares you for the hell of July in August, it gives you a little break. Just clouds basically all month, and it's hot. 00:21:42 Speaker 2: In La until October. People don't realize that, yes, a hot Halloween. I feel like it's going to be a very hot summer based on how long our winter was. But that's just again my own rain predicting something. I mean, it's the basis in anything. 00:21:58 Speaker 3: I mean, selfishly, after my rain trauma, I never wanted to rain again, obviously, but you need it. That feels like it would be. 00:22:06 Speaker 2: Bad for all you prepared for more rain. 00:22:08 Speaker 3: That's what the builders tell me. Okay, but we of course now have to wait nine months to find out. 00:22:13 Speaker 2: Well, June's coming, but I don't think it's. 00:22:15 Speaker 3: Going to rain that much. I'm knocking on road. I'm praying to God if we have flooding again, I'm shutting down the podcast. I'm selling the house. I'm truly going somewhere else. 00:22:25 Speaker 2: You can sell the gifts you've gotten and buy a new house. 00:22:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, by my vacation. 00:22:30 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, with all the dark chocolate pistols you can offer, I mean. 00:22:33 Speaker 3: Things have got to be worth probably fifty grand. I don't know that they're worth quite that much, not yet, but now they've a podcast. 00:22:41 Speaker 2: Right now, they're now, they've been talked about. They're famous, they're famous dark chocolate pistols. 00:22:45 Speaker 3: They kind of Oh they do have a brand. 00:22:47 Speaker 2: It's I don't have never heard of that. 00:22:48 Speaker 3: This brand has done a horrible job with their logo because I simply carried it. Yeah, I have no idea what that is racinty. It's kind of a pirate scraw It is a private scroll. All these look great, though. I can't believe you don't like. 00:23:02 Speaker 2: Dark, Like, do you like hot chocolate? 00:23:04 Speaker 3: Yeah? I love hot chocolate. I haven't had one in You're very welcome. 00:23:09 Speaker 2: And because of the dark chocolate, the dark hot chocolate pistols. You can put any milk you want. 00:23:15 Speaker 3: Oh interesting, you know, wait, milk whatever. And I couldn't do that with a milk chocolate. You're saying I could do any sort of milk. 00:23:22 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, it's not a mix. It's not like a mix that you do with water. Oh you know, it's a chocolate that you meant melt into a milk. 00:23:29 Speaker 3: Mix with the water. It's always it feels like it's gross, house burned down and you like that. 00:23:33 Speaker 2: That's all you can Yes, yes, yes, it's like a FEMA treaty. 00:23:37 Speaker 3: Yes, you're right, although I probably would go for it. I like those little marshmallows, you do, like everything, those little hard marshmallows that don't really have a tech. They're essentially just hard sugar. Yeah yeah, but they give the impression. 00:23:53 Speaker 2: Of a Swiss help. 00:23:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, have a Swiss help. You You're from Miami, so I can't imagine your life has been hot chocol rich. 00:24:01 Speaker 2: Do you know the few days in Miami that it is cold, we would eat hot chocolate and Cuban bread with butter for dinner sometimes and it was incredible. I didn't realize that it was because we were really poor. 00:24:14 Speaker 3: I was like, yes, hot chocolate, it's so good. 00:24:19 Speaker 2: It is really good. It's not nutritious, but it is the filling. So yeah, I did grow up with hot chocolate on some winter nights, and I really did love it. There's like a your your Latin American listeners will who I'm sure our abundant will know about. I will eat the hot chocolate, which is this like Mexican like brick hot chocolate that you just like melt in a saucepan of milk and it's delicious, so we. 00:24:45 Speaker 3: Would make Yeah, hot chocolate should be made. 00:24:47 Speaker 2: Yes, with the dark chocolate pistols, or with. 00:24:50 Speaker 3: Chocolate where you are just drinking liquid chocolate, yes, yeah, rather than the powder with the water correct, hydrated milk. Okay, so you had to hot chocolate and bread for dinner sometimes? What are you eating for dinner? 00:25:04 Speaker 1: Now? 00:25:05 Speaker 3: What's your regular dinner situation? 00:25:06 Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting. I feel like I've been traveling a bit, so it's I don't have like my normal groceries in my house, so I've kind of been living like a like a field mouse, you know, where I just like find things. I do like to like do a thing where my favorite I like to cook, and my my favorite kind of cooking is like kitchen sink cooking where I'm like, what do I have and what weird thing can I invent with it? 00:25:31 Speaker 3: A chopped challenge? 00:25:32 Speaker 2: Yes, a chopped challenge? 00:25:33 Speaker 3: Correct. 00:25:33 Speaker 2: So the other day I made myself some potatoes and I was like, I want some kind of like cheesy sauce to go on it, but all I had was ricotta cheese, and I was like, no, no, sorry, not even worse cottage cheese. 00:25:48 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, okay, let's just pause for a moment. And even worse on this podcast, you cannot call cottage cheese even worse. 00:25:54 Speaker 2: No, I like cottage cheese. 00:25:55 Speaker 3: OK. 00:25:58 Speaker 2: Those people who don't this situation. When you think about cottage cheese with potatoes, it might not be sau it might not be the best thing. But listen here, listen to. 00:26:06 Speaker 3: What I apologize. 00:26:08 Speaker 2: I just I love a cottag cheese. That's why it's in my it's in my refrigerator. But here's what I did. I got some red I had some red onions. I saw teed them really so so they were caramelized, right, and then I blended them with the cottage cheese. So the cottage cheese became a smooth sauce that was That was a caramelized red onion cheese sauce that then I drizzled all over the potatoes. And it was so good. 00:26:32 Speaker 3: It worked, It worked so well. 00:26:33 Speaker 2: I mean, I you know, I put the potatoes in the oven with some garlic and some spices, and then I did that and it was delicious. And that's the kind of like what do I have in the house, What can I do? Kind of cooking that I enjoyed doing. 00:26:44 Speaker 3: So another incredible endorsement for cottage cheese. 00:26:47 Speaker 2: I don't like the texture of cottage cheese. You can blend it. I don't know if people don't know that. 00:26:51 Speaker 3: And when you say blend in like a little blend wonder. 00:26:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it just because it becomes a smooth, creamy. 00:26:56 Speaker 3: Cheese, Wow, fascinating. I wonder it doesn't melt. 00:27:00 Speaker 2: I don't know because I didn't try and melt it because it was like it's like the texture of like a whipped cream cheese or like, yeah, like it's like a smooth, creamy cheese. 00:27:11 Speaker 3: Wow. Cottage cheese. It's it's this is it's a year. 00:27:13 Speaker 2: It can make it taste like anything. 00:27:15 Speaker 3: I really like that wonderful. I have been talking about cottage cheese for years. It feels like the world is finally catching up, and so this podcast is kind of dedicated to. 00:27:28 Speaker 2: That cottage cheese. 00:27:29 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:27:30 Speaker 2: Do you don't know how else I enjoy cottag cheese. Sometimes when I'm starving and I just would need a quick meal, I'll open a little tubocottag cheese, I'll get some honey, I'll squirt it on, and then I'll just have spoonfuls of honey and cottage cheese and it's delicious. 00:27:43 Speaker 3: I think we found something. I don't like the taste of honey. 00:27:45 Speaker 2: Honey, all honey because McDonald's little things honey horrible, but real honey's delicious. Fake honey is awful. Fake honey, yes, which is just corn syrup. 00:27:56 Speaker 3: Oh it sounds horrible. No, I don't think. I like there's thing about the organicness of honey that feels tastes kind of old to me or something interesting. Yeah, maybe I just need to acquire the taste. 00:28:11 Speaker 2: Maybe you haven't had really good honey. 00:28:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, where's really good honey coming. 00:28:15 Speaker 2: From farmer's markets? And like places that are fresh, really fresh honey. 00:28:20 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I mean speaking of something that doesn't expire, right, honey? They found it in the pyramids or something true. 00:28:26 Speaker 2: I wonder I who wouldn't eat it? 00:28:27 Speaker 3: But who did eat it to test it? 00:28:30 Speaker 2: I don't know what anyone did the wurst mummy honey. Its weird shit to put in your body. 00:28:37 Speaker 3: I feel like some archaeologists was bullied into trying it or something. 00:28:41 Speaker 2: It's just a pinky try, just like a little dip in there. 00:28:44 Speaker 3: Maybe you've got to have some sort of test or otherwise they're not going to believe it. Okay, I wonder if I can put these into cookies. 00:28:51 Speaker 2: I'm sure you can't, so I don't know. I don't know what their meltability is. 00:28:54 Speaker 3: But well they must be extremely meltability. 00:28:57 Speaker 2: She try it if you make a lot of cookies to do it. 00:28:59 Speaker 3: That's a nice thing about a cookie kitchen sink. Wise, you can just drop whatever you want in there and see what happens. 00:29:04 Speaker 2: You can. 00:29:05 Speaker 3: I've tried a lot of things, and some I've seen people try potato chips or pretzels. That doesn't actually work. I want to warn the listener. They end up just kind of soggy in there. Uh huh, that doesn't makes any sense. Yeah, but this is essentially a chocolate chip. Do you like a cookie? I do. 00:29:19 Speaker 2: I love a chocolate chip cookie, soft and flat and minimal chips. Oh, golden brown. 00:29:27 Speaker 3: That's an extreme version of the cookie. 00:29:30 Speaker 2: I feel like I find it most places. It's like, I just don't like it when it's too many chocolate chips. It just has to have like a I like the cookie part and I like an occasional chip and some salt on top. 00:29:40 Speaker 3: Right, I mean, I think you are kind of describing an ideal chocolate chip cookie because I think a lot of bakeries or bakers will try to disguise that their dough doesn't taste very good by just putting too much chocolate. 00:29:51 Speaker 2: You want to take a chair. You don't like a chunk, a chocolate chunk in a cookie. I like you have to have a chunk, bite into a hard chunk. Eating a soft cookie. It's texture war texture. Yeah, but yeah, that's sort of like soft gooey golden brown, you know cookie that I love that it's getting this like you can spot them different places, you know, you could, like, I feel like some places, like you know, who has really good cookies? Is all time? 00:30:20 Speaker 3: Is a dessert everything at all times? 00:30:22 Speaker 2: Yes, everything is really good all time. Is a for your non LA listeners. A restaurant in La that I but I like a lot. Please give me a discout, Yes we deserve. I do love their their cookies. They have a cookie for dessert and they give you three cookies and a glass of milk. 00:30:36 Speaker 3: Wait, I was not aware of this. That sounds incredible. Yeah, everything they touch is gold, and so I'm going to have to go there. Is that something I can just order without getting a meal. I feel like you can just sitting on them sidewalk there eating cookies. Yeah, who cares. I mean at this point, I can do whatever I want. 00:30:53 Speaker 2: At any point, you can do whatever you want. 00:30:54 Speaker 3: Yeah that's true. Yeah, I've only had known that sooner. Yeah, I would have been eating cookies on the sidewalk a sooner. Okay, I'm getting back into the bag here. 00:31:03 Speaker 2: Don't take the don't take the foil. I mean the off I would like to see you. 00:31:07 Speaker 3: And reply is helping here. 00:31:09 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I get a healthy bridge. 00:31:13 Speaker 3: Well you didn't offer. 00:31:13 Speaker 2: I didn't know you were struggling. 00:31:16 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm opening. I have no I have no idea what this is. 00:31:21 Speaker 2: I would love for a few guesses. 00:31:23 Speaker 3: Okay. So it's like a it's a sphere, a plastic sphere, or better known as a ball to our listeners. It's a ball that's white with little holes in it all over it with little colored balls. 00:31:35 Speaker 2: Not good for the tripophobia people. 00:31:37 Speaker 3: I mean the way things come together. 00:31:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they really really did a wrap around. 00:31:41 Speaker 3: We've talked about it, we've talked the simulation to death, but it's really showing it's ass here Okay, So it's a little balls all over the place, and then in the middle there's like a styrofoam that's probably just part of the build to keep these balls, I guess for this. And it's weird that I mentioned a Rubik's cube earlier because this feels Rube adjacent because you can kind of push the balls. And is it a stress ball? 00:32:04 Speaker 2: I will tell you what it is. It is one in a package of many fidget toys that I bought myself when I was very stressed out, like a couple of months ago. And it's basically you can push you see the empty hole. Yes, just you can push any of those balls. You just switch the places of those balls. Oh, is what you do. It's just a fidget toy. You just kind of push them around. 00:32:27 Speaker 3: You didn't get that sound because it's kind of satisfying. 00:32:29 Speaker 2: Here, do you want me to hold the mic for you? 00:32:31 Speaker 3: Okay, let's see if I can do this here. Oh now I'm here we go, No, come on, baby. 00:32:40 Speaker 2: Oh one more kind of push them through. 00:32:41 Speaker 3: People are loving this. 00:32:44 Speaker 2: Nice snap. Yeah, there you go. 00:32:46 Speaker 3: Oh this is really a nice little thing. I mean, I almost prefer and apologies to the inventor of this, I almost just like pushing it in kind of. Yeah. 00:32:54 Speaker 2: Stress, it's you do whatever you want to do with it. That's the whole point. If you're ever on the phone or like on hold or having an annoying conversation, it's great to have in your hands. Yeah. 00:33:03 Speaker 3: I've never while on a long hold call, had like a thing to do. No, you just the captive. 00:33:09 Speaker 2: Really what am I doing? Yeah? Do you pace around your house or no? 00:33:14 Speaker 3: I see I just said at the kitchen counter and see quietly. Yeah, beginning to boil over. So if I had one of these, I think I would be better off. So you bought a whole bag of these or something? 00:33:27 Speaker 2: Yes, they were all assorted. 00:33:29 Speaker 3: What else came in there? 00:33:30 Speaker 2: You know, your classic fidget spinners? 00:33:32 Speaker 3: Okay, kind of it had its day and now. 00:33:35 Speaker 2: Listen, they're great, especially there's been some new advancements in the shapes. 00:33:39 Speaker 3: Really, yeah, what are they doing with them? Now? 00:33:41 Speaker 2: I have a little fidget spinner cube that's fantastic and I use it almost all my meetings and sometimes in auditions. Oh and there's a little like uh, yeah, there's just all there's hard to describe, but all different kinds of fidget toys. 00:33:55 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so you do you carry one in a bag? Is like, how do you keep I don't. 00:34:01 Speaker 2: I don't have it with me. I carry ear plugs usually in my bag, but I don't. I don't have one with me. Now sometimes I do, depending on how i feel on the day, but mostly there while I'm at home and like working or on the phone or you know, being help captive in some way, I can literally with something. Yes, for kidnaps, yeah, I'd be fine if I had a fidget winner, I'd be at least. 00:34:23 Speaker 3: Look, okay, give your captive a fidget. Yeah. Yeah, you've got to have something to do. Why do you carry ear plugs? 00:34:34 Speaker 2: I have become increasingly sensitive to certain sounds, specifically, you know when people do when you go to a show, people do that clap where it like really catches where they like really you know, you know the clap. I'm talking about, the super loud clap. I like, can't it's like a snack. Think, Yeah, It's very hard for me to concentrate or keep existing when that's happening. So I've been starting to carry air around for different events and different things. 00:35:02 Speaker 3: For like concerts, this sort of thing. 00:35:03 Speaker 2: Yeah. Also sometimes just comedy shows or or like, yeah, anything where there's a crowd, right right, yeah, yeah, also people making people making repetitive body noises like sniffling. Oh makes me want to rip my skin off. So sometimes I if I'm like on any kind of public transport, right and I have my headphones in, yeah. 00:35:30 Speaker 3: I for concerts, should have been carrying them there read for concerts. 00:35:34 Speaker 2: When you when you put them in your ears, you're like, oh god, I can't hear as well. And then you have them in and you're like, great, I can actually hear everything. And then you take them out and you're like, oh my god, how's anyone dealing with how loud this is. It's so crazy and it does make you go deaf when you go to too many concerts. Of course. 00:35:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, that feels like a great merch opportunity for bands. Why are they not capitalizing on. 00:35:54 Speaker 2: This because it's a bad look, right? Who cares earplex at your concert? 00:36:00 Speaker 3: Oh you well sure, But I'm trying to argue for myself here, But I feel like there's some sort of branding marketing. You get an expert advertiser, they can figure out how to sell those two concert goers without embarrassing the band. 00:36:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess so, I guess so. I guess you're right. 00:36:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like survey, like, uh. 00:36:19 Speaker 2: There's the ones that I have are specifically designed so that you can hear through them. They only block out certain high decibel numbers. It's not like a full ear plug. 00:36:26 Speaker 3: You know, what does it look like? 00:36:28 Speaker 2: They're called loops? Not to please tell me some loops loop. Yeah, they're called loops. 00:36:32 Speaker 3: I'll give you my address. I need hundreds. 00:36:34 Speaker 2: Yes, I like them a lot. I have like foam. They're they're like little you know how like a ear earphones have those little rubbery things on them. It's that right, with a little loop attached to it, a little metal loops so you can put it in your ear and you can kind of adjust how deep they go, and they just they look fine. They look kind of cool in your They look like jewelry because they have a little metal circle around them and they're very small. 00:37:00 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, I'm going to get into this. 00:37:02 Speaker 2: I really they have helped me a lot. 00:37:06 Speaker 3: Who introduced you to them? Because that feels like something you don't just stumble across. 00:37:10 Speaker 2: I think probably adhd TikTok oh sure. Yeah, but also my own panic induced researching on. Like I was sitting at my friend's show and someone behind me was doing that clap. This is like last October, and I was like, oh, I couldn't deal with it. And during the show I went on Amazon and bought your plugs because I was like, I can't. I can't survive this. Like I had to go hide in the bathroom. I could not deal with. 00:37:36 Speaker 3: Yeh, who is this clapper? 00:37:38 Speaker 2: Many of you are? Many people are clapper? Yeah, many people are at this clapper. I don't know if I don't know if you do this clap, but I've certainly we've all done it. At some point. You're like, oh, I caught a good clap there. Let me keep going on that clap. But it pierces through my skull. 00:37:53 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess if you really appreciate what's going on, you do the big clap. 00:37:57 Speaker 2: Yeah. I just but it's not the flathand clap, you know. It's like I have like a cup hand clap. 00:38:01 Speaker 3: Yeah, for it's kind of a little echo or something. 00:38:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just have sensory issues. What can I tell you? Brid I'm trying to accommodate these things so I can keep existing. 00:38:11 Speaker 3: I want to know if this face thing is real superfacer. 00:38:15 Speaker 2: Someone who has like a really photogenic. 00:38:17 Speaker 3: My relink it's a super recognizer Honale type super recognizer. Analis is on the case. 00:38:22 Speaker 2: I'm certainly not a super recognizer. 00:38:24 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm I mean, my god, I'm so. 00:38:26 Speaker 2: Bad, really bad, I'm really really bad. 00:38:29 Speaker 3: Honalae has an answer. 00:38:30 Speaker 2: I can't believe this. It's literally called super recognizer. 00:38:33 Speaker 3: Okay, amaze, you were right a genius you are. So have you had any situations where you've in particular, where you should have known somebody and then it didn't want? 00:38:41 Speaker 2: Hundreds of times? How do I say this? I have men from thirty to sixty in a suit blindness. It doesn't matter what race you are or what height you are. How like you're in a suit, you look the same to me. I And they're always the people I need to remember. They're always agents, are executives, or like the head of a fucking studio that is giving me a chance to do something. And I'm like, Hi, who are you? And I've met them already and I never remember them. Unfortunately, most of the time when I meet them and their their personality isn't shining, so they really do blend in, and they're wearing the same thing. It's crazy to me that, like suits are so unimaginative. Yes, and like the only way you can express your personality is your tie, and you barely do that, and so like, how am I going to remember you? I just you all blend in. I'm sorry, I don't mean that to be I don't know. I don't mean that to sound what's the word missandrist? But I just feel, yeah, no, I just have a blindness. I really can't tell the difference. 00:39:48 Speaker 3: Well, look above their neck. 00:39:50 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just looking right at the chest the whole time. 00:39:53 Speaker 3: I can't My eyes are up here. 00:39:54 Speaker 2: I really can't tell the difference. It's really bad. It's very bad. 00:39:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a real situation. Yeah, yeah, I have that with people. Zero to ninety nine of every sort do not recognize people. 00:40:06 Speaker 2: I have a hard time recognizing people too. But the second that they tell me anything that gives me a clue as to how I know them, I'll remember everything about them. 00:40:13 Speaker 3: Right, They're like, oh. 00:40:14 Speaker 2: Right, we were out of in this dinner and someone's basement in two thousand and three, you're mean. Yeah, I'll remember everything, but I just need that clue because I again going back to what we were talking about here, I'm so mistrustful of people that my friend. There's all these walls between me and who they are where I'm like, I don't trust you. I don't trust you at all. You could be oh yeah, oh my god, you're my best friend's mom, you know, like it's it's that kind of thing. 00:40:41 Speaker 3: Uh. 00:40:42 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:40:42 Speaker 3: I've been picketing a lot recently because of the Writer's Guild strike, and of course I'm seeing a lot of people that i've worked with friends this sort of thing. So many people I don't know, I mean I know and say hi to me. I have to go around the picket line ten times before I remember. And as soon as they say hi to me, it's I'm sweating your panic wedding thinking going through the alphabet and like, is it Andrew? Is it? Yeah, Brian, And I'll say, sunglasses will absolutely disguise you. 00:41:11 Speaker 2: Interesting. 00:41:11 Speaker 3: I didn't realize, you know, glasses and a hat like on the news or whatever when they put the black bar over people's eyes. For the longest time, I was like, what are we. 00:41:19 Speaker 2: How does that hide. It's like a Clark Kent situation. 00:41:21 Speaker 3: Apparently, oh interesting for Clark Kent. 00:41:24 Speaker 2: What do you think? I have some glasses here, I'm just trying them on. I feel like I'm still recognizable. 00:41:29 Speaker 3: Well, you're sitting right in front of me. What if I didn't recognize it? 00:41:34 Speaker 2: But like if you saw me on the street, I feel like I'm still recognized. My mouth and nose are very recognizable in my jaw. I think, maybe not to you. 00:41:42 Speaker 3: I'm telling you there's a good chance I wouldn't recognize you. Interesting, but I would be absolutely cordial. You would think that we had met, would. 00:41:50 Speaker 2: You know what? Listen, if we run into each other we've never met before? 00:41:53 Speaker 3: No, right, Like this was like strange, Well you did not know each other before the show audience, we haven't met Okay. 00:42:00 Speaker 2: Okay, I thought for a second, we work together on a thing million years ago, but we've both forgotten about it. We're married, So if I see you again, yes, I probably won't recognize you, and you probably won't recognize me, and we won't hold it against each other if one of us does. 00:42:16 Speaker 3: This is what everyone needs to be memorable. We've really formed a bond. It's a lifelong thing. We'll be remembering each other on our deathbeds. Yes, but this is what everyone needs to do because I want to talk to ask you about this. What do you think about this thing? That's like just always say nice to see you, regardless of whether you've met them or not. 00:42:36 Speaker 2: I see through it, but I get it. 00:42:39 Speaker 1: You Know. 00:42:39 Speaker 2: What I do is I try to be as genuine and possible as possible in these interactions where I go, like someone says, hey, Natalie whatever, and I'll be like, oh my god, wait, how do we know each other? And I will try to do that and if it's not too embarrassing. Usually it's like we met six years ago, and I'm like, that's passable, right that I like, don't right immediately know who you are? That I know you, but I don't know who you are? I think, but I don't they like nice to see you. When I've gotten it, I'm like, you don't remember me. 00:43:06 Speaker 3: The trick doesn't Actually it doesn't work. No. 00:43:08 Speaker 2: It feels like unless I know that they know who I am and they're like, it's nice to see you again. No, yeah, that's different exactly, but the like celebrity like nice to see you in case I've met you before. I see it's thinly veiled at this point. It's just a. 00:43:21 Speaker 3: Real failed attempt at guess yeah, it's yeah. 00:43:24 Speaker 2: I read rather Someone's like, I, well, that's not true. There are some people that I've met over and over and over again and they don't remember me, and I'm like, fuck you, I am not that forgettable. I am pretty memorable, especially if I've sat next to you all night at a wedding and then six months later we did New Year's Eve together, and like, I've met you ten times by this point, you don't remember me, Go fuck yourself? What power play is this? So that's not true. I do get mad sometimes when people don't remember me, but it has to be like obscurb, yeah exactly. It's either deliberate or you're so self centered right outside of yourself, because. 00:44:04 Speaker 3: Come on, yeah that's uh yeah, I'm fully on board with that. But the nice to see your thing, I think we've got to cut it out. I asked that I never thought it was this neat little trick. It's not. 00:44:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not ridiculous. We all know it. 00:44:18 Speaker 3: Uh okay, Well, I've got my spinny ball. I have my dark chocolate pistol. Pistoles is a pistoles? Is it pistoles? 00:44:25 Speaker 2: I've listen, I'll tell you the truth. That's been sitting on my kitchen counter since January. That's not that long, right for me, because it's not that long. No, it's not that long. I wouldn't give you something completely rotten. And I've passed by it every single morning and gone dark hot chocolate pistols. Like in my head. I just read it and I and I and today when I was deciding what to bring, I'm like, I know the exactly thing was there brings him joy? And I had the dark hot chocolate pistols and just to read it every morning, it's delightful. 00:44:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, your life's gonna fall apart without it now, cornerstone of your personality. 00:45:01 Speaker 2: Isn't it fun to say dark. 00:45:03 Speaker 3: Hot chocolate pistoles. This is the problem. It shouldn't be hot dark chocolate. 00:45:07 Speaker 2: I agree. 00:45:09 Speaker 3: It took me a while. 00:45:10 Speaker 2: It's very confusingaging is weird. All everything about it makes me read it over and over and over again and go, did I get that wrong? 00:45:17 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it is hot chocolate, not I mean. 00:45:21 Speaker 2: I guess milk caught chocolate. 00:45:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like there's absolutely there's here. I guess you just come up with a whole new word like scalding chocolate. 00:45:31 Speaker 2: I don't know, dark hot chocolate pistols. 00:45:33 Speaker 3: Well, those are good now, going to sit in my cupboard for probably years. 00:45:37 Speaker 2: You don't throw away all the gifts you get immediately, Natalie, I have thrown away one thing. 00:45:42 Speaker 3: Really, we have done like a hundred and hundred thousand episodes. Oh my god, I'm not a hoarder, but I don't. I feel kind of bad. You must have gotten some rotten, horrible things. I've gone some crappy things. I've gotten one piece of garbage, that's what was thrown away. I have gotten edible things which were eaten. I've gotten useful things which are being used. And then everything else is I have two shelves just down in my office here, so. 00:46:06 Speaker 2: Things will go there. 00:46:08 Speaker 3: They might full of things. 00:46:10 Speaker 2: You're really welcome to throw these away. I won't feel bad at all. 00:46:13 Speaker 3: They're not going to be thrown away I am. I'm thinking about doing live shows where I'll start to give them away and just like pushing it off on them. 00:46:19 Speaker 2: That's a good idea. 00:46:20 Speaker 3: I've got to find an excuse to get rid of them. 00:46:22 Speaker 2: That's a great idea because. 00:46:23 Speaker 3: Event I mean it's not sustainable. 00:46:25 Speaker 2: No, no, and probably also not sustainable, like they're probably going to expire some right exactly. 00:46:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm going to find a way to get rid of them. But for now, it's just my home looks confusing. A lot of my home is like why does he have like a volleyball next to box of candy or on a shelf. Yeah, it's like why that should be put away? But we'll see what happens. I mean, I can't do anything, and I still have food in my cupboard from twenty twenty. Yeah, I've got some. I saw some in there. 00:46:54 Speaker 2: He used this sphere for just a second. I just want to see if there was something missing about it. It was like a I was sort of doing it with my thumb, but I don't. 00:47:03 Speaker 3: Know what would be missing from that ball. 00:47:05 Speaker 2: You kind of just like have to switch places of a few of them, I think, to to really make it work so that they all snap into place. You just kind of keep doing that. 00:47:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, so now you're doing it correctly because the way I was doing it before, and I wasn't going to say this on the podcast. Was hurting my finger? 00:47:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you just kind of stick your thumb in there. Oh okay, like move them around. 00:47:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, I felt a sharp edge. 00:47:29 Speaker 2: That's what I wanted to look at because I was like, I feel like he's not going to use this if if he doesn't know how not that you need to use it. And I think by the way, I think that the game is matching the colors. 00:47:39 Speaker 3: To the Oh. So it's a game if you. 00:47:41 Speaker 2: Want it to be. So now, I just if you wanted to be I don't know how to use this. Now, just stick your thumb in the push one with your with your thumb, and then push to the side, push it to an open hole. 00:47:52 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm pushing the listeners loving this learning situation. Okay, oh okay, here we go, so you can learning. 00:48:01 Speaker 2: Yes, you can play that game if you want to have matching the balls to the colors. 00:48:04 Speaker 3: Okay, my finger's gonna get caught here eventually. 00:48:08 Speaker 2: You don't have to keep doing it. You can throw that away or give it away. There's a there's a school here around the corner. 00:48:13 Speaker 3: There is a school. 00:48:14 Speaker 2: You can leave it there. 00:48:15 Speaker 3: Someone will take a man standing outside the fence, anybody for one special boy or girl. That's when I okay, I think it's time to play a game. Okay, we're gonna play on a least gift master. I'm trying to get better at doing every other time to be fair to the game and so people don't get tired of whatever's happening on the podcast. Okay, I'll tell you the rules in a moment, but I need a number between one and. 00:48:43 Speaker 2: Ten before telling me the rules. Okay, yeah, I'll say eight. 00:48:47 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to do some light calculating right now to get our game pieces. You can recommend something, promote something, talk to the listener to this. 00:48:55 Speaker 2: June twenty third, a movie called No Hard Feelings comes out, in which which I star opposite Jennifer Lawrence. It's a big Sony movie. It'll be in movie theaters and I think you'll enjoy it. It is a comedy and you can follow me on TikToker on Instagram at Natalie Morales Loves Perfect It used to be Nali Morales loves free stuff, much like your. 00:49:19 Speaker 3: That's where the idea for this podcast came from. 00:49:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, but then I felt it felt materialistic, and then I had to change it, and then Natalie Morales was taken, so I was like, I do love things, so I just. 00:49:30 Speaker 3: We all love. Yeah, some sort of thing things, a very vague term. It could be non material things. 00:49:35 Speaker 2: Yea Morales loves I love, I love. 00:49:38 Speaker 3: You, thank you. That's what I've been waiting to hear it for the last forty five minutes. That's my real gift here, absolutely begging. Okay, this is how we play gift Master. Okay, I'm going to name three gifts. Things you can give away, experiences, whatever. Then I'm going to name three celebrities. You're going to tell me which celebrity you would give which gift and why. Okay, that makes perfect sense, perfect sense. Okay, the gifts you're giving today. This first one is from a listener, Sabrina. Sabrina suggested tickets to a home and garden show slash exposition. Okay, I love an expo. Then number two is a functional sink, So a sink that may works, it works, it's more for the utility than the show. 00:50:18 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:50:19 Speaker 3: And number three a mother's intuition, Like I. 00:50:21 Speaker 2: Would imbue this person with a mother's intuition, or I would give them the knowledge that a mother's intuition would have, like. 00:50:28 Speaker 3: They would then have the power of a mother's intuition, whether they're a mother or not. 00:50:33 Speaker 2: Got it? 00:50:33 Speaker 3: Okay, so these are the people. Number one Denzel Washington, Number two Carly Ray Jepson. Number three James Blunt. Okay, James, welcome to the podcast. 00:50:46 Speaker 2: Okay. I am going to say this is a tough one because I see how different people could use different things. Okay, I don't know James Blunt that well, right, and I think a functional sink isn't a bad thing, So sure, who can use one. 00:51:05 Speaker 3: It's kind of like a candle or a. 00:51:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's beautiful. I'll give that to him only because like I don't know much about him, and it's fine. It's a fine gift. 00:51:17 Speaker 3: I think functional sinks are the new candle. If you don't know somebody, if like a coworker, that you have to get a gift, show up with the sink. Everyone can use one. 00:51:24 Speaker 2: I'm going to say the Home and Gardens Expo for Carly Rae Jepson, Oh, because I think it might be a lovely afternoon, right, And I feel like she would enjoy that. She seems every time I've ever seen her in media. She's smiling, she seems to have a good time. She seems to have a good time, and I feel like I wanted to keep that going. 00:51:43 Speaker 3: For her, right, and she might need to, like buy, she might be interested in the new developments in home and garden. 00:51:47 Speaker 2: Some orchids, right, maybe some aphids. And then I would give a mother's intuition to Denzel because I feel like he could use it. 00:51:56 Speaker 3: Oh interesting. I mean, I feel like Denzel already has there's a lot of intuition, so he may become an unstoppable killing machine with the mother's I think. 00:52:06 Speaker 2: The mother's intuition would balance him out. 00:52:08 Speaker 3: Oh interesting, kind of just a nice flat Yeah. I think that was really well done. Thank you. I like the thought you put into it. 00:52:16 Speaker 2: And I take games maybe more seriously than. 00:52:21 Speaker 3: I get competitive. 00:52:22 Speaker 2: I don't get competitive in that like I don't get upset when other people win. I get competitive in the sense that I'm like, don't fudge the rules of the game. And also like a game like Apples to Apples or which is the same thing to me as Cards against Humanity, Right, those don't have real rules, like it's it's they're subjective and I hate that, Like, oh, if someone wins based on Rando's opinion, no thank you. I whoever wins has to win based on the rules of the game. So I do like games competitive in that in the set, I'm competitive on behalf of the idea of games, but not on behalf of myself. Okay, that makes any sense. I mean, you like to win, and I am good at all games. 00:53:06 Speaker 3: Speaking of games that are largely subjective, listener, you can buy the Gift Master game online. It is a very subjective game. Sure Natalie would hate it. 00:53:16 Speaker 2: Well because I'm the only player and I won, so it's fine. I think you did an excellent a game and more just it's a questionerience experiment. Yeah, yeah, which I can do. 00:53:29 Speaker 3: On occasion. 00:53:30 Speaker 2: I can do this. 00:53:31 Speaker 3: Okay, this is the final segment of the podcast. 00:53:33 Speaker 2: I will say this, hold on before you're backing up that if someone else were also playing and you asked them those questions and you picked a winner, I would. 00:53:40 Speaker 3: Be pissed, you freak out. 00:53:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be like, that's not a game, that's a game. 00:53:43 Speaker 3: It feels like and then you always you're like, oh, they just like them more than me. 00:53:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what you think. That's exactly what it is. And it's a mean, mean, horrible thing. 00:53:53 Speaker 3: But I love a game that stirs up some drama. 00:53:56 Speaker 2: I don't also like because I've an actor, or sometimes I hate games where I have to like pretend, like I like, like, what's the game Mafia or whatever. I'm like, I don't need to do this in my free. 00:54:07 Speaker 3: Time because people are like now judging your job. 00:54:11 Speaker 2: And I also like don't care enough. And they're also like, oh, but she's an actor, she's lying, and I'm like, oh, this is dumb. This is so dumb. Everybody go to sleep, everybody wake up, somebody's dead. I just can't. I can't deal with it. 00:54:23 Speaker 3: People are their invitations for your parties. 00:54:27 Speaker 2: I don't want to go to your parties if their Mafia parties. I don't like the game. 00:54:30 Speaker 3: My boyfriend gets so into Mafia that. 00:54:32 Speaker 2: I can't do it. It's a profession. It's like if you were like, hey, I constantly want to play operation with this doctor, Like it would feel like if you were a doctor, you'd be like this is so stupid and not at all how it works. And I hate doing this every day. Or are you having massive parties to play operations. 00:54:47 Speaker 3: You know, I would love an operation party. Everybody gather around. 00:54:51 Speaker 2: This more fun a twister party. 00:54:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course that feels very seventies, very orgy adjacent. 00:54:59 Speaker 2: Great. Where are we the last part of it? 00:55:03 Speaker 3: If I liked talking about games for a minute, we need to talk about you know, games, Yes, I love games. Feelings. This is the final segment of the podcast. Okay, it's called I said No Emailska. People write into I Said No gifts at gmail dot com. They have questions, they have problems. My listeners are trying their very best at life. Sometimes they're not quite getting the ball in the net, so we have to help them. 00:55:30 Speaker 2: I'm good at advice. 00:55:31 Speaker 3: Okay, then we help me answer a question here? Yes, see here. Okay, this is deer Bridger and lovely guest. That's very nice. 00:55:39 Speaker 2: I didn't know it was me. It was not specific. 00:55:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is kind of a nice to see you situation. This person sucks. Okay, so it says I'm hoping you can help me with a gift giving problem. My two roommates and I have lived together for three years. Our release is coming to a close and we will be moving out one roommate was lovely clean, always on top of chores, and very nice and polite. Okay, where's the turn. The other roommate, however, was terrible. She never did chores, left open food in her room for months, attracting bugs, had people over without telling us beforehand, and one time had a bad drug trip, resulting in her freaking out and tearing apart the whole apartment in the early hours. Maybe a PCP problem. We don't know what sort of drug they were doing. We were left to call her parents for help and clean up the apartment. Oh my god, now here's another turn. I love both of these people as friends. Do I need to get these you have just on this podcast, absolutely laid bare. How horrible this person is. Okay, but let's keep going. Do I need to get these people a parting gift? If so, what? Thank you so much for your needed help. Sarah in Arizona, Sarah, Sarah doesn't quite know what a friend is. I think that's the beginning of the problem. 00:56:56 Speaker 2: Sure, but I think Sarah's a loving person. And here's what I'm to say to Sarah. This is my advice, Bridger. I say, if you don't want to get them gifts. You don't need to get them anything. They're probably not going to get you any But why not cook them a nice dinner as a last meal in your apartment and have that be your gift and that all three of you can share in it, and then no one needs to feel left out and no one needs to feel less than and it's a nice moment before you move out. 00:57:19 Speaker 3: That is not a bad idea. And it sounds like there's a lot of just leftover food in one of these rooms that could easily be turned into a kitchen, maybe, don't you. Yeah, I don't know. We don't quite know what expiration dates or bugs do. 00:57:31 Speaker 2: Not to take the advice giving away from you, that was just what popped into my head. 00:57:34 Speaker 3: I like that idea, I mean, for me going through this email, the beginning. 00:57:39 Speaker 2: Of it twists and turns as well. 00:57:41 Speaker 3: The twist is the turns. I feel like Sarah's a complete phony. I don't think either of these people are friends. I think Sarah is very alone. Because Sarah is calling you a lovely guest, is friends with this person who went on some sort of freak out and destroyed their apartment and still calling that person a friend. Desperate for free. 00:57:58 Speaker 2: Maybe they've made up since then, maybe there's been some apologies. Well, and who among us isn't desperate for friends? 00:58:05 Speaker 3: That's very true. I'm scratching and clawing for every friend I can possibly get. But to me, I mean, in that case, then Sarah's a bad emailer because Sarah did not present the whole situation. So to me, I'm saying, Sarah, those people are out of your life. Now, focus on one person who actually knows you intimately. Just start with one, one adult friend who you're not writing nasty emails about, who you're not saying nice to see you on your first meeting, who you're really looking into their soul. Forget those friends. I mean they're good as dead. And I feel like those are both options. 00:58:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, those are two equally good. Those are responses to her question. 00:58:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean she can go down now, she gets to choose a path and see where her life goes. Yeah, mine, she'll probably her life will become very fruitful and vibrant yours. 00:58:59 Speaker 2: We don't know how long ago did Sarah write this email. That's a good question because maybe she already moved out. 00:59:04 Speaker 3: It's a very good question. You know, A lot of emails come in, and so this could have been twenty fourteen at this point. But Sarah, if you're still alive, you have your answer. 00:59:15 Speaker 2: Yes, you have your answer. Bridget, Can I tell you something? Yes. The more I look at you, the more I think we have worked together. 00:59:20 Speaker 3: When I do know you, we've met each other. 00:59:25 Speaker 2: Maybe it's just that I've known you for an hour, but like, you look really familiar. 00:59:29 Speaker 3: Now, Wow, I wonder if we should go through everything we've done. Yeah, Like, I just look at our IDBs. The listener will love a list of each person's credits. 00:59:39 Speaker 2: Well, I will tell us if we work together immediately, wouldn't it. 00:59:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably true. Well, we were doing this off the podcast, I mean, and the crying can happen off the audio. I will sob. 00:59:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like no, I. 00:59:52 Speaker 3: Feel like you're wrong. 00:59:53 Speaker 2: Name didn't sound familiar when I first heard about it. 00:59:55 Speaker 3: My name's out of control. 00:59:57 Speaker 2: It's very it's very memorable. 00:59:59 Speaker 3: It's too much. 01:00:00 Speaker 2: Yeah. Can I say I'm glad it's not pronounced a winnegar. 01:00:03 Speaker 3: Me too vinegar. I mean, but I'm constantly getting You're constantly I mean one of my agents feel good to correct them says Winneger, and I don't know how to correct a person and like eight years into a relationship. Yeah, so I guess it's I'll. 01:00:15 Speaker 2: Just do you invite them to something and then you introduce yourself loudly, will you please come to my show? And then you go, Hi, I'm ridgier. Why if anybody who's wondering, it's why, like why? Yeah? Like that? 01:00:34 Speaker 3: Okay, I have all sorts of advice, so much advice. You should sort of an advice podcast or an advice colum. That would be still advice. TikTok's actually, oh, there you go. That's probably the more important thing at this point. TikTok people are, let's be honest, more people are on TikTok. I enjoy it. I've got to get on tiktoo. 01:00:52 Speaker 2: Can be successful. 01:00:53 Speaker 3: I think if there's certainly no way I'm going to present myself on TikTok, but I would look at things you can lurk. Okay, I might just do a little lurking. 01:01:01 Speaker 2: You just you don't have your nun or no obligation to post anything. You just you know, see what the algorithm. 01:01:07 Speaker 3: Occasionally I've popped in a couple of times and it almost got me, almost got its hooks in me. But I don't know. We'll see what happens. Well, I have my dark hot chocolate pistols. I have my ball, which it's going to be a little There's gonna be some lessons to be learned with this thing. Maybe we'll see if I become an expert or not. Maybe it'll be one of those things that just never clicks for me. Yeah, that's fine. Somethings don't work out click, yes, thank you. Yeah, you know because the book. Yeah, of course. 01:01:39 Speaker 2: I just wanted to make sure that your listeners saw saw my eyebrows were doing. 01:01:43 Speaker 3: Through my voice. Yeah, yes, listener clicks clicks clicks, Natalie. I've had a wonderful time with you guys, and the listeners learned so much. 01:01:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll climb off my high horse now that I'm off this podcast. I don't know anything. I'll just say that we. 01:01:59 Speaker 3: Begin with Blue Read and now here we are. Yeah, so many lessons learned. This is kind of this podcast is a service. Ultimately, I agree. It's an education and if you get more out of it, great, if you get less out of it great one star reviews. Call me whatever you want attack, attack, attack, You've got to destroy me. Thank you so much for being here, thank you for having me listener. Wow, we made it to the end. We've always got to start the podcast and then get to the end, and today we did it again. We keep doing it. You knew it was coming, so again, go off on your day, do whatever you want. I'm giving you that power right now. Please stop listening to the podcast. I love you, goodbye. I said, no Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Analise Nelson, and it's beautifully mixed by Leanna Squilatchi and couldn't do it without our guest booker Patrick Cottner. The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Man. You must follow the show on Instagram. At I said no gifts. I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts I invite? 01:03:22 Speaker 2: Did you hear? 01:03:25 Speaker 1: Thought a man myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to you gotta come to me empty. And I said no gifts. Your presences presents enough and I already had too much stuff. 01:03:47 Speaker 2: So how do you dare to survey mean