1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two hundred, episode one. Guy. 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: I feel like that's one of those things that other 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: shows would have like a whole plan for. And I 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: just realized it was season two D when I just 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: read that. You know what, But that's what we do. 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: We clocked is what we do, get our heads down, 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: we clock out, put another banner up. This is a 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio, and it's a podcast where 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: we're taking deep to have in New America's share consciousness. 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: It is Monday, August. My name is Jack O'Brien a K. 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: I host the day le Zai Guys with my very 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: white thighs and my co host Miles That is supposed 13 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: to be alive by p O D, which very Christian 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: band apparently. Oh yeah, I didn't not realize that. You 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: didn't I did? Are you a fan? Bro? Huge? And 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: I never realized it. I thought they were like I 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: thought those were love songs. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles Gray. Yes, 19 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: this Viles Gray. I've just not been on social media much, 20 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: but we're just gonna do this one because I checked 21 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: the news all the damn time. I look at what's 22 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: trending to make reason and rhyme, smoking hot takes. I've 23 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: had a few. I sold the squares space and a 24 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: day sipping on news and ripping a boom boom is 25 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: daily Si, guys, my friends when by look ver the 26 00:01:48,160 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: trends is Dailies. I guys, DALYSI guys, fuck the Fox 27 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: News because Dadies. I guess anyway, you just made that up? No, no, 28 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: no from this court. I like how I just rolled 29 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: into him, like I don't know what to do? You 30 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: know what? Two men? How great? Anyway? Three shout out 31 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: to everybody who came out Wednesday night. It was a 32 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: total blasts. I'm still recovering. Let's just say, had me 33 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: like awake all night. Yeah. But if you're a Crofton 34 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: fan and you missed it, I don't know what to 35 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: tell you. If you want to see Miles wearing the 36 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: finest fashions of the year two thousand NBA Draft, you 37 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: want to see me dressed as like a member of LFO? 38 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 1: Is that the name of the band? Like, are you 39 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: like the guy who auditioned for LFO? Like the frang 40 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: with the soul patch? Yeah? Go? You can still watch 41 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: the v O D at moment house dot Com slash 42 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: the Daily Zeitgeist, but shout out to everybody he was there, 43 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us on this journey. Yeah yeah, well, 44 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined by the very funny 45 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: and talented writer and podcaster who you can hear on 46 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: the wonderful NBA Baseline podcast uh and his new podcast, 47 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: Never Meet Your Heroes, which he tells you all the 48 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: most shocking details and twists and turns from celebrity backstories 49 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: like Mark Wahlberg Shila buff We'll have to ask him 50 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: if he included Miles Gray as ran on in the 51 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: h in that backstory awesome, Michael Jordan's He's one of 52 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: the best follows on Twitter. Please welcome back to the show. 53 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: Jabari Oli David, Hey, guys, I appreciate you having me again. 54 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna allow to you. I've already made the 55 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: determination I'm never going to over you, know, like outdo 56 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: you guys with the intro. So my A k A 57 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: Is a co worker last week told me you're exactly 58 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: like Shug Knight except for nice. And I guess what 59 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: they really mean, because I've been told this many times before, 60 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: is you're a big black guy with shaved head. So 61 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: that's cool. What and you got a beard too, and 62 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: so nice good night. It was right there, It was 63 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: right and what I'm stealing that? Right? You gotta He's like, oh, 64 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: I'm like Shug and you hold their ass over the 65 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: edge of the bill your royalties right now? Yeah, exactly. 66 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: You think that you're fucking stereotypical bullshit? Remind be another time. 67 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I'll tell you a story about signing 68 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: up for that man's you know, that man's big hit 69 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: song at karaoke there in the valley and he walked 70 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: out because he was upset. Oh wait what he was 71 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: at the karaoke bar Ireland two. It's a it's a 72 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: spot that's over there. I think, what is it like 73 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: Burbank or not Burbank, like Van Eyes or whatnot. I 74 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: was there, you know, Rob Van was it? Rob vand 75 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: weikel Vanilla Ice was there. He was in the back. 76 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: He's having a good time, folks are showing love. So 77 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: I figured, hey, look we're here, we're gonna go ahead 78 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: and do this. I signed up for it. The song 79 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: came on, he gets up and walks out because, like 80 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: I guess, he was offended by it, but whatever, because 81 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: you did I maybe, Yeah, it's like broke. I thought 82 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: it was respect that song. Have you ever made Loving 83 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: an Inner Tube? But Vanilla's off of to the extreme 84 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: is that a song? That's not the title, but he 85 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: talks about making loving an inner tube, which is like 86 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: the sort of thing that a middle school student which 87 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: I was at the time, or I think elementary actually 88 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: would like think was cool. Like yeah, anyway, had sex 89 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: would be like that. That sounds really like uncomfortable and difficult. 90 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: You got to come from tuban culture, not just Retuban, 91 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: but inner Tuban and embrace your inner Tuban while you're 92 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: inner Tuban, as Vanillie would. Yeah, all right, Barry, we're 93 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: gonna get to know you a little bit better. Oh first, 94 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: I do want to ask to what get hit us 95 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: with a detail from the back stories of what one 96 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: of the celebrities you've covered on the show, anything, anything 97 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: that surprised you honestly during the Michael Jordan's episode, and 98 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: and you know, for anybody that you know that does 99 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: take a chance and listen to it. I'll admit the 100 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: first couple of episodes we were still finding our footage, 101 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: but we you know, I feel like we've done that. 102 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: But during the Jordan episode, we had a really good, 103 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: good conversation surrounding kind of the coverage, you know, surrounding 104 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,679 Speaker 1: you know that when he retired, with his father's death 105 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: and all of that. Even though yeah, I lived through 106 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: it and I was, you know, I was old enough 107 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: to be aware, it was interesting to me. It's kind 108 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: of like, you know, like, I'm sure if you haven't 109 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: seen The Malice in the Palace, the Mauison the Palace 110 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: Documunery on Netflix, and yet I'm watching it this weekend, 111 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: strongly recommended. You know it. I remember all of the things. 112 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: I was there when those things were said. But sometimes 113 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: when you hear it, you know, from a thousand miles out, 114 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: it's like, oh wow, okay. So but in terms of like, 115 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: you know, like crazy stuff about celebrities, none of it's 116 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: really going to shock you. You know, we've always kind 117 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: of known that, you know, right right what you're about. Recently, 118 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: why did why did I see this thing trending on? 119 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: Like NBA? Read it again? When they were talking when 120 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: Charles Barkley was bringing up that anecdote about how like 121 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan has no empathy he for like the unhoused. 122 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: When he's like, don't give him that money. If he 123 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: could say can I get some change, he could say 124 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: welcome to McDonald's. Cannot take your order, and you're like, 125 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: oh my god, Michael, I wouldn't expect anything fucking less. 126 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: But Jesus, you know, I don't know if he really 127 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: said it, but like you, like you just said, it 128 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me. It would not shock me. But he's 129 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: come around. That's he hasn't. That's when I'm like, now 130 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: since the pandemic, he's been so philanthropic. Like I'm really 131 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: curious to even hear from him, like if he sees 132 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: himself as having an evolution, because I'm you know, he knew, 133 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: he knows he was a fierce guy, and we saw 134 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: that he knows he has some level of stuff awaring this, 135 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: But I'm curious if he's like, yeah, you know, I've 136 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: I've learned to love more. He had. Honestly, he had 137 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: to do it because you know, while obviously he was 138 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: doing things throughout his career, we certainly didn't hear about it, 139 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: and he definitely was never going to you know, take 140 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: a stance, you know, not a public stance, you know, 141 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: especially that would be controversial. Over the last five years 142 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: or so, I feel like he's definitely moved towards him 143 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: at least at least showing that he's he's about the 144 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: right things. Yeah. I wonder if the last dance, you know, 145 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: because that was basically controlled by him, or at least he, 146 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: you know, was the one who was like, Okay, you can, 147 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: we can make this now. I wonder if just you know, 148 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: seeing it through new eyes or see you know, having 149 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: other people see him and like that that whole you 150 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: know experience was was kind of gave gave him a 151 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: new perspective the detail I thought you were gonna say 152 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: Charles Barkley talked about when he was like I hate 153 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: that fat fuck but like he's never gonna put up, 154 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: He's never gonna outplay me in the this final series again, 155 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: which that was wild, Like that was like the next 156 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: level of pathology that like I I had not I 157 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: knew he was a competitor, like to a pathological degree. 158 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: I didn't know it was like that, right. We we 159 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: did an episode where we touched on Chuck a little bit. 160 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: Do you guys remember that arrist that he had, you know, 161 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: stemming from about probably ten years ago, you know, in Phoenix, 162 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: just outside of Phoenix. Vaguely, Chuck did, uh no, Charles Barkley, 163 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: We're we're close enough to where it's either round. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, 164 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: I do remember that where he was like driving fast 165 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: and said he had to go somewhere to get a 166 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: blow job. I think, yeah, my man had like donuts 167 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: and the seat next to him and said, heyah, I 168 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: was just you know, like just going out to get 169 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: a blow job. But anyhow, there, yeah, that's Chuck, it's 170 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: going out for one. And you, of course did cover 171 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: Shya's early rap career and his partnership with Miles Gray, 172 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: right well this time. Mean, look, that was a long time. 173 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: We have nothing to do with his bullshit now, so 174 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: it's not trying to get me caught up with Miles. 175 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: I kind of need to know. Honestly, we're both valley boys. 176 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: You're a little bit younger than me. You would have 177 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: come up around that time. What is the connection there 178 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: with Shy And no offense if I offended you on 179 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: the episode, because I did, Oh no, not like that. 180 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: I mean, look, this high school, I was friends with 181 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: a lot of kids who are on the Disney Channel, 182 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: specifically this guy, Mike Galiota Rest in peace. He used 183 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: to be on this show called The Jersey and we 184 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: were we were really tired. We were super tight. And 185 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: through Mike I met all these other people who are 186 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: on the Disney Channel and like we were all like 187 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: weed smokers, and they were like white kids who wanted 188 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: to be black. So life in the Valley. Start a 189 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: rap group. Start a rap group. And it was like 190 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: us in a bunch of other kids, like younger siblings 191 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: of people that were on the Disney Channel, so just 192 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: other like local kids. And it was called the Element Crew. 193 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: And I think that ship's on soundclouds somewhere, but I 194 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: will be going to look it up absolutely, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 195 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: I'll maybe I'll drop a link somewhere sometimes. All right, well, 196 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna get to know you a little bit better 197 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a 198 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: couple of things we're talking about today. We're gonna talk 199 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: about the selective empathy of America, how the Supreme Court 200 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: is making that official with some of their recent decisions. 201 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: We'll talk about the legal drama behind McDonald's ice cream machines. 202 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: While those are always out of order. Well, talk about 203 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: j R. Smith journey. It has been very fun to 204 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: follow on Twitter, and a new Fortnite feature, all of 205 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: that plenty more. The first Jabari. We like to ask 206 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: our guests, what is something from your search history? Well, 207 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: you kind of already left the coutt of the bag. 208 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: I was going to shamelessly, you know, note this political scandals, 209 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 1: you know, and it's for the show. Like you mentioned, 210 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: you know, never meet your heroes, you know, as you mentioned, 211 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: we've done, you know, Michael Jordan, shil Abuff, Mark Wahlberg, 212 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of other people for season one. 213 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: But right now I'm knee deep and you know, basically 214 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: Anthony Weiner type stuff at the point. Oh wow, Anthony 215 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: Weiner type stuff. So just like a lot of Dick 216 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: pics are actually yeah, you know, honestly, no pun intended 217 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: a little bit, a little bit of that, a little 218 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: bit uh and and some lesser known stuff you know 219 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: from you know, from folks. Yeah, I remember that he 220 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: was he I think he was like roommates with Jon 221 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,599 Speaker 1: Stewart or something. So I'm like, he's a ween or 222 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: fucking rules like that was That was where I got 223 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: all my politics from at that stage. That's why I 224 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: up with al Gore because Tommy Lee Jones roommate and yeah, yeah, 225 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: well that and like at all because you know, and 226 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: I was like, I was just obsessed with celebrity birthdays, 227 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: like who had the same birthday as me? So when 228 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: it was Tommy Lee Jones, I was like, oh ship, 229 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: I like men in Black just this tracks, this tracks. 230 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: And then I was like they were they were roommates. 231 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, al Gore, alright, homie, Yeah, thanks 232 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: for inventing the internet. Good look, it's nice to see 233 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: that we all do that as kids. By the way, 234 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: not to take it off, but you know, you know, 235 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: just going with it. Morgan Freeman and Marilyn Monroe were 236 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: You're the ones that I was fighting you happy about 237 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: June one? What's up? That's really good that I like, 238 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: that's a real spectrum. I like that I may have 239 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: even allied to people and says like, yeah, Morgan Freeman, 240 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: I'm related to him, as though there's some connection when 241 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 1: you have the same birthday as someone. I mean, I 242 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: tell people I am Prince Harry because the exact same birthday. 243 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: So there's not what's the problem here, I can believe it. 244 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: I might as well be the same person. What about you, Jack, 245 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: who you got? I don't so. I I was like, huh, 246 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: I must not have been into that when I was young. 247 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: But I think it turns out I just don't have 248 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: anyone good um to claim. I've got to get ready, 249 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: so my Rudolph is by far far away. I've also 250 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: got billing ball um. All right. So that's cool comedy comedy. 251 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: That's a good one. That was before my time, or 252 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: I was before like he yeah, yeah this is he 253 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: came out and I was I wasn't into but the dude, 254 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: the dude Jamie Lanister from It's just like there's nobody 255 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: that I would have been into when I was a kid, 256 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: you know, damn pretty yeah, when I was a kid. 257 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: These are the ones that I remember Peggy Fleming Jenkins, 258 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: US Olympic figure skater. Uh yeah. And there's also like 259 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: another Olympic skater, Christopher Dean. Uh. Those are the ones 260 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: that Jerry Van Dyke, who I wasn't didn't really know 261 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: much about. So you know, you guys that that's your 262 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: celebrity birthday privilege of having great celebrity birthdays and it 263 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: must be you know who else? I I got Tom 264 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: Hardy Polo what Jenna Marble's from YouTube if you remember 265 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: that fucking ship. I don't think I do. Yo, there's 266 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: oh my god, no way. There's someone on Instagram called 267 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: Young Blazeing and we have the same birthday. What okay? 268 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: Young okay? So you like this is the last scene 269 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: of fight Club where we realize that you and young 270 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: Blazean are the same person witho year old Instagram, You've 271 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: created a separate personality where be shorts to damn god. 272 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: You know what. It makes sense though, too, because it's 273 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: mating season, so so many people like you just there 274 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: that's condensed right here in August September and shipped too. Yeah, 275 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: my parents were gross having set around fucking October, freaky Halloween, 276 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: just nasty, rotten baby halloweeneen baby. Come on, Lisa vander Pump, 277 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, get off me, get off. This 278 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: is Agatha Christie, Come on, backup, back up. What is 279 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: something you think is overrag overrated? We're going there first, alright. 280 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: I actually took notice this time alternative cauliflower products and 281 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it with muches for the record. I'm 282 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: not one of those that, you know, I don't shame 283 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: people for what they enjoy. You know, I'm not gonna 284 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: yuck your yung if that's your thing. In fact, I'm 285 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: generally here to give something to shot, especially if you 286 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: tell me that it's it has like some healthy property, 287 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: you know, health benefit. I'm at that age in general 288 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: health status where I'm like, oh, it's good for me, 289 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: and it tastes good. Okay, cool, I'll eat it. I'm 290 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: not here for the you know, for the you know, 291 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: for the cauliflower. I've never had any product that actively 292 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: actively tasted good cauliflower products. Have you had cauliflower that 293 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: you enjoy it? Wait? What? I won't lie, don't love 294 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: I don't love jim regular coliflower either. But I'm you know, 295 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: but I'm you know, I am at that age where 296 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: it's like you gotta eat the vegetables. You gotta do 297 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: these things, you have to you know, get you have 298 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: to make these adjustments, and I just different. Wait, so 299 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: what alternatives are you talking when like coli, flower crusts, 300 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: colored flower anything like, yeah, yeah, I had a something 301 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: that someone called buffalo, like you know, a buffalo nugget. 302 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: It was halfway decent because it was sauced like crazy 303 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: and you know, sugar but deep. Yeah, I just can't 304 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: get with so and you know, and I say this 305 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: as someone I'll admit I got into Trader Joe's late. 306 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: In fact, I got into Trader Joe's late specifically because 307 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: I thought it was Whole Foods because most of the 308 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: people that I saw going into out of there pretty 309 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: much looked like, you know, Whole Foods folks, just with 310 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: dirty or sandals. And then I and then I realized, hey, man, 311 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: I've been missing out, man. Trader Joe's is a haven 312 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: for you know, you know, for for people of my 313 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, desires, but just not with the college color 314 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: and cheap too. You know what, you should have known 315 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: those dirty or sandals men, because you saw the class 316 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: struggle right there. Yeah, growing up in the valley, you 317 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: don't know, you just don't know the dirty sands and 318 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: that might everybody they might be getting getting into the rings. 319 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: You know, stopped going, and then I just recently started going. 320 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: Most at stopped going because in the pandemic it was 321 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: always a fucking line out there, everybody like standing outside 322 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: the building. Yet that was yeah, like in the rain 323 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: and ship. I'm like, I just want popsicles, like kind 324 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: of I'll going to Ralph's. I'm sorry, but we're back 325 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: now onion garlic pistachios from oh My almost ate the 326 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: whole fucking bag and I just like stop myself. Yeah, anyway, 327 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: it's it's a problem. The flavored pistachio is want one 328 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: of the best snacks. Its salt in general, but all 329 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: pistachios they have salt and pepper, they have they have 330 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: like Chilean lime, they have all kinds of flip best. 331 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: You know, what do you do? You t J? I 332 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: see you. I watched my kids discover the joys of 333 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: like peeling pistachios and then like eating them and just 334 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: had had a whole new appreciation. It was like one 335 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: of those things where it's like they were like this, 336 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: we're like a crawfish. Yeah, they're they're gonna grow They're 337 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:15,959 Speaker 1: gonna grow up. And see that they could have been 338 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: having them shell the whole time and call you a 339 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: broke boy. Yeah that's okay. Would you buy that though? 340 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: Because I was I was faced with that decision when 341 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: I was at the store, like do I buy a 342 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: just straight for the nut meat or do I do? 343 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: I like, am I about the process? Okay? And I 344 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: was like the process and immediately I was like, no, man, 345 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: the whole point is to fucking rip them open and 346 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: ship and throw them in a bullet. Yeah. Anyway, naked 347 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: gun joke where they got the statio shells outside of 348 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: the steak out? Yeah, what is something you think is underrated? 349 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: All right? So I planned to go with something like 350 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: really mature sounding this time, and you know, like actively, 351 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, being kind to others, you know, especially given 352 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: the time with circumstances, but you know, and offering compassion 353 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 1: and kindness to folks in need. Those are those are 354 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: things that we should be doing. But I honestly, I 355 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: decided that your listeners and listeners to a show like this, 356 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: they already know those things, and honestly, I don't need 357 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: to beat them over the head with their reality. So 358 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to take a quick moment to do a 359 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: bootleg and a Josier streaming corner. Uh, please for give 360 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: you for this one, and I'm gonna defend a show 361 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: and even mention another one. Ozar, here we go. I 362 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: promise you I don't want beef with Francesca fiorent teeny 363 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: uh and plea, I hope I said that right, wonderful guests. 364 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: I don't want any beasts, but I'm gonna tell you 365 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: right now, Yes, it's the Midwest version of breaking bad, 366 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: and I'm not you know, there's no way around it. 367 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: You know. Sure, it's a bit repetitive in the same 368 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: way as it shows, you know that nature tend to 369 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: be with you know, con but forced drama and continue 370 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: family trauma, you know, at least from that perspective. But 371 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: it's unique enough in the way they break things downs down. 372 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: Excuse me, especially in seasons one and two. Yeah, I 373 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: just feel obligated to defend those of us that are, 374 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, still still actively watching just about anything and everything, 375 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: because I'm honestly, Miles, you were saying this all throughout 376 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: the pandemic, and I recognize there are some people that 377 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: are no longer living in one, even though we are 378 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: still in one. For me, I'm watching everything, so honestly, Ozark, 379 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: it's not the end of it. You're in the airplane. 380 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: Everything is the air everything watching, watching to completion. For example, 381 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: I'm currently watching wo Assassin's on Netflix. You know, it's 382 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: absolutely not my usual genreal shows. You know, it's acting 383 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: adventure with pretty inexplicab inexplicably bad graphics at times. But 384 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: here we are. You know, chances are if you can 385 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: string together to consecutive decsent episodes, I'm going to give 386 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: it a shot. Okay, wait, so what because I'm my 387 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: thing with those are I couldn't get probably the third 388 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,239 Speaker 1: episode in. It just wasn't doing it for me. So 389 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: I stopped three episodes in. Because this is the same 390 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: thing that people said with Mad Men's like you gotta 391 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: get through like the first five the first and I'm like, 392 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to get through. But and this might 393 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: be another thing too, where I'm willing to just for 394 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: me personally. I don't know. Maybe it's not the same show, 395 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: but I'm not trying to say unequivocally it's uh, it's trash. 396 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: It's not the same show. But I but again I 397 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: I do, I do recognize that criticism. I would say 398 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: this anything that anyone tells me generally, you know, like, oh, 399 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: you just have to get through it. I'm I'm usually 400 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: one of those people. It's like, well and it probably sucks, 401 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: but you know, for this one, they do a decent 402 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: enough job. And again you see those one and too 403 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: they do a decent enough job in making the characters 404 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: somewhat redeemable to where you actually buy into him, to 405 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: where there is that you know, there is that buy in. 406 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,959 Speaker 1: But you know, like for for like you, I know, 407 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: there's folks that simply they'll they're never gonna like, oh 408 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: my goodness, the main character, um, Jason Bing's there's certain 409 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: people that are just never gonna like him. And I 410 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: recognize that. So if he's not, I like him. That's 411 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: the reason I even gave it a shot because I 412 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: loved the arrested development and I'm just like, yeah, I'm 413 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: willing to go on this journey with Jason as he 414 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: figures out his acting. I would say, you know what, 415 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: I am a little bit biased. You know, Kevin L. 416 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: Johnson an actor, He's been a bunch of stuff. He 417 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: you know, I've interviewed him a couple of times on 418 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: different shows that I've done. You know, he's he plays 419 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: a character on the show. You know, so I'm always gonna, 420 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: you know, kind of want positive things for it, but yeah, 421 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: I genuinely enjoy it. All right. Well that's that is 422 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 1: the sort of thing we need to hear and are underrated, 423 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: you know, get let let people really feel okay about 424 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: something that other people have been because I I feel 425 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: like I have not heard a positive take on oz 426 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: Ark in a long time, So that's that's great to hear. 427 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: I might, I might just give it a chance. It's 428 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: also because season three they just kind of went off 429 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: the deep end and and I'll openly admit their characterization 430 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: of what bipolar disorder looks like it's really offensive to 431 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: those of us that suffer from bipolar disorder. So so 432 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: if people have that complaint, I want to understand it, 433 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: because that's that's legitimate. Yeah, alright, let's take a quick 434 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: break and we'll be right back. And we're back and 435 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: we're just gonna do like a general check in with 436 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: the State of America. But before we do, we were 437 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: realizing before we started recording Jabari, that the last time 438 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: you were on was January five. It's been kind of 439 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: an uneventful eight months since. Uh no that so the 440 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: day before the insurrection you you were on here last. 441 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: So I'm just warning people, you know, watch out for 442 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: tomorrow Tuesday. We'll see what happens. Don't sleep on the 443 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: influence of nice exactly grow with the gravitational pull of Jupiter. 444 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. But Myles, you were 445 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: kind of, uh, you put together some thoughts on just 446 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: sort of this idea of America's practice of selective empathy. Yeah, 447 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, like just like last time 448 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: with the media not talking about Afghanistan in one way, 449 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: Like now I look at, you know, with the conversation 450 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: talking about resettling Afghan refugees. I was just you know, 451 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: seeing how the momentum was moving very swiftly, you know, 452 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: because there's by eighty eight thousand Afghans that assisted, you know, 453 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,479 Speaker 1: occupying American and Allied forces during the Forever War. And 454 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: now the US is like obviously scrambling to relocate these 455 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: people to fulfill a moral obligation um since you know, 456 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: like leaving them and their family members behind in the 457 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: places like Taliban is like trying to have retaliatory attacks 458 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: against these people just is what it should be done 459 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: on a minimum level, if not more people. And then 460 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: you look at the polling, right, Americans are pretty much 461 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: on the same page like Democrats. Sevent of Republicans are 462 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: saying like yeah, we like we're I'm open to I 463 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to resettling these people in America and 464 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: understand like that the narrative is they helped the the army, 465 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: so they should just like that's their ticket to the 466 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: United States. And another story I read about these South 467 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: Florida Republicans who were very enthusiastic about welcoming these people, 468 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: and I'm not I don't have in the opposition to 469 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: the fact that they're open that they feel, you know, 470 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: aligned with this sentiment. But it just says like a 471 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: lot right because like at a minimum, it acknowledges that 472 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: these people put themselves and their loved ones in harm's 473 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: way to help the United States military, and they understand 474 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: like the reciprocal nature of this transaction, Like that's okay, 475 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: we get it, y'all all could have got fucked up 476 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: helping the US. Are are are you know, brave men 477 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: and women out there? So this this you know, equates 478 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: to a ticket back. But like this other way to 479 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: sort of underlines this fucked up way in which Americans 480 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: choose to have empathy for displaced people, Like if you 481 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: are working in service of the American war machine, then 482 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: it's a no brainer that you know, like oh man 483 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: like you, because then it's like you were one of 484 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: the good ones, you know what I mean, Like we 485 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: came funked up your country, you still helped out. You 486 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: know what, That's worth a ticket back here. We thank you, 487 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. And then you know, and then 488 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: even though like normally the narrative around Afghan refugees, like 489 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: on Fox has basically been and terribly islamophobic and xenophobic 490 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 1: and you know, ethno nationalist, but seventies six percent of 491 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: Republicans feel that it is our duty as Americans to 492 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: take these people in. And I'm just like, what the funk? 493 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: What does this say about every other situation that we're 494 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: involved in that intersects with the United States foreign policy 495 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: and displacement of people and even domestic policy and displacement 496 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: of people that where does It's just it's it's a 497 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: it's amazing to see how people can just selectively be like, yep, 498 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: those people deserve empathy. Those people at the border not 499 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: so much. I mean, granted that you can draw straight 500 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: lines from American foreign policy and intervention in Latin America 501 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: to why we have this immigration problem. And on the 502 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: same level, if it's like, well, these people are displaced 503 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: because you get cheap fruit for the for fucking dole 504 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: or whatever that there's no there's no empathy, there's no 505 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: understanding of what the root causes are, and it's just 506 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: kind of you know, I'm just sitting there thinking, right, 507 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: And here's another example of all that. Right, It's where 508 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: I wonder if it's because the cheap fruit is like, 509 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's implicating the consumer, you know it is. 510 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: It kind of gets it this undercurrent where it's like, yeah, 511 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: all of this is being done to just feed the 512 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: kind of massive consuming machine that America has instead of 513 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: a soul, and we don't want to acknowledge that, right, 514 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: And if you go just slightly broader, right, the fruit 515 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: is like one dimension because the whole point of fighting 516 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: all these like all the intervention in Latin America was 517 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: the way the US was fighting the Cold War kind 518 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: of whole thing was like, do not do not like 519 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: communism root on the continent, and we'll do whatever the 520 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: funk we have to do by hook or by crook 521 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: to figure out how to stop that momentum. So on 522 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: some level, you could argue that this was happening to 523 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: protect America's freedom, right, like that that rhetoric is sort 524 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: of that like our logic was being applied. Yet again 525 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: we look at displaced people from there and go, oh, 526 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: that's that's your problem, that's problem. Well, I mean really 527 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: the it has always felt like the cut off and 528 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: it's it's very clear at this stage, especially over these 529 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: last couple of years, to cut off is like do 530 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 1: we feel like these people have you have value to us? 531 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: Do we? And I'm not saying the three of us. 532 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm not saying like you know, you know, those of 533 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: us that actually have natural empathy, but I'm saying you'll, 534 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: you know, the general public. Oftentimes it seems like if 535 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: they if we don't feel like, you know, there there's 536 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: value monetary actual value to you, then it doesn't matter. 537 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: And and and then and that's and that's more telling 538 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: about you know, about society because you know, and and 539 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: it's actually it's not just how we look at you know, 540 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: at you know, you know, people in foreign land, just 541 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: how we look at people in America. If you are poor, 542 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: you aren't you you're don't you ain't ship you know, 543 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: like if you if you're not out here working, if 544 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: you're not out there contributing to this, you know, to 545 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: this system, then you you know, you're not worth our time. 546 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's and and like and I get there too. 547 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: You know, a big differences with Afghanistan and you know, 548 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: everything that happened at nine eleven, there was just you know, NonStop, 549 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: it was a prime time TV onflict for for a 550 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: certain point, and so people and there is countless TV shows, 551 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: you know, and and films that were like talking about 552 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: like what's happening over in the Middle East and things 553 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: like that post nine eleven that that was a thing 554 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: that people had just like this sort of concept of 555 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: but there isn't much talking about American intervention in other 556 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: places and things like that and this. But but then 557 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, well maybe it's a historical thing, right, 558 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: like because people know what what's going on in Afghanistan, 559 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: and like they're like, okay, well that I understand why 560 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: we need to extend empathy there, even though truly it's 561 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: not even it's only being extended to eight thousand people 562 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: among millions in the region. But it's the same thing 563 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: with like Black Americans. We fucking built this country, right, 564 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: and the land was stolen from indigenous people. Yet these 565 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: groups are still like I don't know what the funk 566 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: y'all problem is, right, what is your what is going on? 567 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,719 Speaker 1: And and so it's just it's just really it's like 568 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: sickening to watch how certain issues that deal with things 569 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: that are happening within the country and are so clear 570 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: of like why we need to correct things, you know, 571 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: but there's just not the energy for that yet. For 572 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: these things there's like a lot of there's just a 573 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: lot of media momentum, and Americans can selectively say like, right, 574 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: I I totally understand why we need to our obligation 575 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: to resettle these these refugees. Yet we still are unable 576 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: to look at all these myriad of ways that we're 577 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: connected to other struggles and problems within the country and 578 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: outside and still not be compelled because it's easy to 579 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: turn a blind eye and you and you know, the 580 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: next thing will come up and we'll all obsess about 581 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: that after they have to, you know, honestly, y'all know, 582 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: like I appreciate shows like this, I appreciate ethnically ambiguous 583 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: and you know, like those wonderful ladies and and and 584 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: both Andy and Swering, you know, for pointing stuff like 585 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: this out whether it's on you know, whether it's on 586 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: the shows, whether it's on you know, you know, whether 587 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: it's on the timeline. And actually, you know, through conversations 588 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: with Anna in particular, you know, like she was the 589 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: one who pointed out, like you know, we we as 590 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: a country, we we definitely pick and choose, We definitely 591 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: pick and choose what's going to matter. Who was going 592 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: to matter? You know how much it's you know, it's 593 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: going to matter. And we really can't do that, you know, 594 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's what I say, we really can't 595 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: do that. Yes we can, but we obviously really shouldn't 596 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: because look at where we're at, right, Yeah, it's yeah, 597 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: and this whole thing is just about preserving like like 598 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: you say, we were selective about where we choose to 599 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: understand what's at stake or what the consequences were for 600 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: other people based on certain policies, and and like then 601 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: the second we try to inform people right of like history, 602 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: we see what happens, it's just met with rage and 603 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: violence because it's you know, the the whole the ignorance 604 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: is meant to intended to sort of preserve this American 605 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: sense of moral purity and with Afghanistan, I think it 606 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: gives people a really easy thing to be like, Yep, 607 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: there was a war there. These people are basically they 608 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: fought on this team, so they get to come on 609 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: back on the bus back to of the locker room 610 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: after the game kind of mentality. But the second it 611 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: begot begins to really sort of intersect with something a 612 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: little more like closer to home or something that you 613 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: may actually have to think about deeper than just really 614 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: this like very clean sort of logic path, then it 615 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: becomes chaotic and things like that, and it's yeah, it's 616 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: just it's fucked up because there's countless ways that people 617 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: are being left behind, whether it's in the Middle East, 618 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: in South Asia wherever. But we you know, we we 619 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: we chug along on this path and like we only 620 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: see things get worse. I'm just kind of thinking, like 621 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: what does it take, you know, because if it's not 622 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: about connecting people to the history to understand sort of 623 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: like the US is placed in that, what like what 624 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: will do it? Yeah, there's Americans seem particularly bad at 625 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: feeling empathy towards poor people in our own country because 626 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: I think they're you know, we I talk on to 627 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: hear a lot about like just work the like psychological 628 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: work that needs to be done too, for like kind 629 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: of the passive white supremacists in the country to just 630 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: like go about their daily lives and like kind of 631 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: pushed down whatever that that reality is, whatever realities are 632 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,719 Speaker 1: hitting them, like whether it's somebody living on the street 633 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: or you know, the videos of police shooting innocent people 634 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: of color. Like, there's just so much work that's having 635 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: to be done for them to like block that out. 636 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,239 Speaker 1: And so by letting in empathy for anybody in the 637 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: country already, you're almost having to admit like that that 638 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: whole thing is on shaky foundation, Whereas I feel like 639 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: the Afghanistan War and the Iraq War, the media and 640 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: the American people were able to like kind of think 641 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: of it as a thing that was separate from them, 642 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: and so that's enabling them. And then you know, the 643 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: specifics of the really shocking and horrifying footage from the airport, 644 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: especially in those early days, I think like probably just 645 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: crystallized things in the kind of American consciousness, which is 646 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: wild though too, because there's so many people that are 647 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: destitute here and and yeah, like it's just this it's 648 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: like we just want to put our eyes on the 649 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: thing that feels like it can be solved in that 650 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: one thing, Oh, the Afghanistan thing can be solved if 651 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: we get enough people on planes, and then it's over 652 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: and off to think about it and it's done. I 653 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 1: look at you know, you look at things that happened 654 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: on the streets of any city, Philadelphia, Baltimore, New York, 655 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: l A. Wherever there's there's real problems, and it's much easier, 656 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: I guess, to go down that path to think of 657 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: how we can solve that is just too much of 658 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: a task for some people to engage in mentally, when 659 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: most of it really is just about being like no 660 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: one's asking you to solve it, but like fun, man, 661 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 1: the same feeling for for that if you if your 662 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: heart's broken seeing people who are clinging to you know, 663 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: trying to escape their country to get here, and you 664 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: can somewhat understand like, oh yeah, I get that. Just 665 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: just open your heart a little bit, you know what 666 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: I mean to be able to have that sort of 667 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: same level of compassion for more people. But I don't know, 668 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: that's just that's me being like, what's what's wrong with us? 669 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: But it also feels like all of this is you know, 670 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: very very specifically by designing, like, for instance, there's a 671 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: reason why we didn't ever see the footage of you know, 672 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: like what was going on in Afghanistan. There's a reason 673 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: why we didn't see the Body Council's reason why they 674 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: didn't even keep tracking a lot of you know, in 675 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: a lot of situations, there's a really like it and 676 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: the same thing goes where you know, you know, domestically, 677 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: individuals are no longer seen as individuals if we just 678 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: call them gangs or we say that it's gang violence, 679 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: instead of saying like, these are people, these are Americans 680 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: that are you know, they're suffering, that are in terrible situations, 681 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: that are you know, innocent, you know, you know, beyond 682 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: beliefs at at at In a lot of a lot 683 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: of situations, it's easy to just ignore. It's easy to do. 684 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: You're like, you to look past people like it's the 685 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: same it's the same thing. You pull up, you put 686 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 1: like let's say you're getting off the freeway, you're getting 687 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: off the four or five, there's a dude sitting there 688 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: right at you know, right there, waiting for money. It's 689 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: really you folks will roll that window of turn and 690 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: beat up and look forward. That's what we've always done. Yeah, 691 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: and I just yeah, and I know like on some level, 692 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: like you know, it's it's a feeling of shame or 693 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: powerlessness like someone you know, depending on how you you 694 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: process it. At times, like for me, it's like a 695 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: feeling of shame like funck man, Like I can't like this. 696 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,720 Speaker 1: I feel so helpless that there's this person was my age, 697 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: who is We're probably coming from very similar circumstances, and 698 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,919 Speaker 1: this is how things shake up because this is how 699 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 1: things are you know, sort of designed in the country. Yeah, 700 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: it's just and I think it's it can be overwhelming 701 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: for a lot of people on some level too, But 702 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: it's just like this sort of very it's it's like 703 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: one of the many superpowers that Americans and American media 704 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,439 Speaker 1: have created to sort of keep the status quo going 705 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: in this direction, which is one that doesn't really care 706 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: for people that are marginalized or in need of help. 707 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: Just focus on like focus on the people who who 708 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: got it right. So just kind of in a related story, 709 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: kind of more specifically, the way the Supreme Court interacts 710 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: with this the Supreme Court last week made to like 711 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: what what are being called shadow docket decisions. I guess 712 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,760 Speaker 1: this is when the president kind of forces an issue 713 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: onto their desk that's like this needs immediate attention. When 714 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: the Trump administration was doing that, they were siding with 715 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: the Trump administration a lot more. It's basically a decision 716 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: where they don't have to like write out full decisions, 717 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: they just like make a decision on it. And like 718 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: in one of the cases here, it was a two 719 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: paragraph decision. So these were the first ones that Biden 720 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: kind of pushed through to their desk and the Biden administration, 721 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: and in both cases the Supreme Court ruled to basically 722 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: side with the Trump administration. Biden was trying to reverse 723 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: a Trump policy that was forcing people to stay in 724 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: Mexico if they had asylum claims at the border, and 725 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: it was just, you know, using pure technicalities, the six 726 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 1: conservatives on the Supreme Court basically made the decision that 727 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: the conservatives of the country would want to, which is, 728 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 1: you know, just have no empathy for them, keep them 729 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: in Mexico not our problem. Again, like there, I think 730 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: there's that's nu that's like not that wasn't even the policy. Yeah, no, 731 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: they've moved the Yeah, they've moved the field goals, like 732 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: back for the goal posts. Goal posts is the word 733 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: that I was looking for. I think there's a when 734 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: we talked about the Supreme Court, especially in the mainstream media, 735 00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: I feel like there is this sense that they are 736 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: are like these theoreticians who are like operating in a 737 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: void and like it's just we're just sitting back to 738 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: like wait to see what these like legal supercomputers decide 739 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 1: is the most just thing. But as as we've talked about, 740 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: like you know, intelligence gives you like really highly intelligent 741 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: people have the ability to make a strong argument for 742 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: whatever the funk they want to believe. That's why highly 743 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: intelligent people are more likely to be in cult and 744 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: that's why this whole idea of the Supreme Court, like 745 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court could come up with a seemingly logically 746 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: coherent case for anything they wanted to literally anything, using 747 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 1: like previous precedent because there like the world's best at 748 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: arguing for ship, like that's what that's what they do. 749 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: So I like this is a political vehicle, which is 750 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: why m the other shadow docket case that they ended 751 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: the eviction moratorium that Biden was trying to extend. As 752 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: we've talked about, that is a horrifying example of just 753 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: America's ability to not feel empathy for the people around them. 754 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: Right well, the Constitution, I don't know if I don't 755 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: know if the founding fathers were thinking about this. So 756 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 1: you know what, we'll sigh with the landlords on this one. 757 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: And now, you know, luckily a lot of states have 758 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 1: their own moratoriums and things like that. But this is 759 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: still putting hundreds of thousands of people at risk of eviction. 760 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,720 Speaker 1: And we're already seeing and it's already happening because people 761 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 1: are doing in other ways that aren't your traditional ways 762 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: of evictim It might be like, oh it's time to 763 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: renew your lease, they're not going to renew it, this, 764 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: that and the other, And that's how they're getting to 765 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: be able to out people and then hike the rates 766 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: up and then bring in other people who are to 767 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 1: make I guess, making just enough more to justify their 768 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: you know, exorbitant rent increases in things. Not to be 769 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: like impressing, but like basically what I would I've gotten 770 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: out of this conversation thus far as like, yeah, we 771 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,439 Speaker 1: just don't care. As Americans, you know, we don't care 772 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: you know, we we do not care about employees, We 773 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: do not care about your workers rights. We don't care 774 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: about you know, so if someone if someone ends up 775 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: being out on the street, we don't care about you know, 776 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: the unhoused. It's just a kind of across the board. 777 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,879 Speaker 1: That's what it feels like. And it's true of many 778 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 1: other countries, but and and here it's like it's like 779 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: it done to this degree that is so aggressive and 780 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: like in your face that it's it's really hard to 781 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: wrap your head around. And I think the sooner people 782 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 1: can understand like that that's actually kind of like the 783 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: tone of how this country works. It helps you to 784 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: sort of redouble your efforts to realize, Okay, I need 785 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: to actually be on the side of people like I 786 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: don't know why the funk I'm caping for fucking Nancy Pelosi, 787 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 1: Like these people are gonna do ship for us. Like 788 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 1: that's why you look more and you see, like in 789 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: your neighborhoods, people put out, you know, like unperishable food 790 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 1: items on the corner just to help support you. Look, 791 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 1: if you know it's free food right here, if you're hungry, like, 792 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: come through, dig in here, there's there's there's shipped to eat. 793 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: That's really how you can sort of lift people up 794 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: because waiting, you know, for the Supreme Court or Joe 795 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 1: Biden to do the right thing, it's just gonna lead 796 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: to more fucking chaos. And I think that's the thing, 797 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 1: like when tor was on talking about dual power and 798 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,359 Speaker 1: ideas like that, is that Americans really need to begin 799 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,919 Speaker 1: to embrace that that most Americans do have empathy. Most 800 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 1: Americans like your neighbors, you're like, damn man like, but 801 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 1: they're fucking cool. Like day I didn't really talk to him, 802 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: but something happened and like we got together and we 803 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: we sorted something out that was great to have community. 804 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 1: You see it, and you saw it in Texas when 805 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: the power ran out. A lot of Texans were having 806 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 1: to lean on each other to get through it because 807 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: the fucking damn sure the utility companies weren't going to 808 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: help and make things you know, quick and expedient for 809 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,479 Speaker 1: their recovery. So on that level, like we know those 810 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 1: pieces are there, but it's like it's like embracing this 811 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: idea too, that there are ways that we can collectively 812 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,359 Speaker 1: take care of each other and protect each other in 813 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: a way that is beneficial to everyone. And we're not 814 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,399 Speaker 1: waiting on the decisions of a bureaucracy that's being run 815 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: by people that are grandparents age who we look at 816 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: our own damn grammars like, oh, I don't know ship, yeah, 817 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: but they're running. But these same that their classmates are 818 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 1: running the country basically, and we're like wondering, like I 819 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: wonder why nothing's working because we have it's and and 820 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: because that that mentality that like, hey, everything's okay, nothing's wrong. 821 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 1: That may have worked when there were greater tax revenues 822 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: to help people, but we're in a different era now 823 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: and that kind of thinking is just so regressive and 824 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 1: it's violent. So it's like it's like getting people really 825 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 1: motivated enough to see like, yeah, you can, you can 826 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 1: see this place for what it is, not get totally 827 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 1: black pilled, but then pivot to, well, what's the solution. 828 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: The solution is finding like having policies that are more humane, 829 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 1: like and on some level, the first thing should be 830 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,800 Speaker 1: like it's a pandemic, well, no one should go hungry 831 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 1: and no one should be kicked out on the street 832 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,439 Speaker 1: because it's a pandemic. But here we're arguing courts like, well, 833 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 1: the CDC doesn't have the lord legal authority. Well, what 834 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: the funk are we talking about. We're talking about people 835 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 1: on the street, but we're not We're not having a 836 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 1: conversation like in those terms. And that's the kind like, 837 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,240 Speaker 1: that's where we need to re center a lot of things. 838 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: But that's the process of I think of waiting for 839 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 1: these kind of generational shifts and our political culture. I mean, 840 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court like way of dual power needs to 841 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 1: be the answer, because the Supreme Court is like purely 842 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 1: an ideological tool and it's going to be doing things 843 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 1: in the background for generations to come that hurt Americans 844 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 1: and you know, keep it out of step with the 845 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: will of the people, assuming nothing changes, and they don't 846 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: fucking kill the filibuster and pack the court like they 847 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: absolutely should. But one very frustrating development is that Stephen Bryer, 848 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: one of the older members of the Court, one of 849 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 1: the three left leaning justice says is choosing to be 850 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 1: loyal to that like understanding of the Court as like 851 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: a impartial, living embodiment of the scales of justice statue 852 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 1: and is not retiring because he claims that all the 853 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 1: justices he said acting good faith and in his career 854 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: that you're old. You're old. You're fucking old, and you're 855 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 1: not seeing I don't mean to be agist or anything 856 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,760 Speaker 1: like that, but like, you're not looking at the country 857 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: at the same lens that the millions of people who 858 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: are going to be living on this planet and this 859 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 1: country are looking at it too, And it's like this, 860 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,359 Speaker 1: They're like, we're holding onto these romantic ideas of a 861 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 1: time that we're also really fucked up for most other people. Yum, 862 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 1: and it's yeah, anyway, So I'm sorry that I don't 863 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: mean to get upset and Justice Brier or the are 864 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 1: do like fucking hurry the funk up, get out of 865 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,399 Speaker 1: there so to prevent further catastrophe. He's like, I don't 866 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: want to die while having this job. So he definitely like, 867 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I also read that. I don't know, maybe 868 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: there's a chance that he'll he'll figure it out or 869 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 1: people sho start screaming at him. Can I say the 870 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 1: quiet part, like we don't need another situation like we 871 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 1: have with RBG. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's really what it 872 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: is like, bro. If you're feeling it, get on out. Yeah, 873 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,320 Speaker 1: that's well, which is why, yeah, we need massive change 874 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 1: here too, because if all of these like decisions that 875 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 1: impact millions of people and whether or not they have 876 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 1: a home fall to a group of fucking blue plate 877 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 1: dinner special motherfucker's who are like, oh, well, let's see, 878 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,799 Speaker 1: I'm clearly a plant for America's corporatocracy. And you know, 879 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: like what, that's not a way to adjudicate anything. And 880 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 1: we're only gonna go careening fucking even harder into a 881 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: wall without like really asking ourselves these questions. Do we 882 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 1: need lifetime appointments, we need limitations on these terms, we 883 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: need or more justices, whatever it is. But it ain't 884 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 1: working like this with the three six mafia, three liberals 885 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,760 Speaker 1: and six conservatives. It ain't happen. The fourth most liberal 886 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 1: member of the Supreme Court, Justice John Roberts Crofton on 887 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: the Live Show, pointed out that he was part of 888 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: like the basically the year two thousand version of the 889 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 1: January six insurrection, but it actually worked where they stormed 890 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,319 Speaker 1: where they were recounting votes in Florida, and he he 891 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 1: was part of what's called the Brooks Brothers Riot, which 892 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 1: you should look up a few. So that's who we're 893 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: at a at a place where we're like, well, that's 894 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: the best we can do other than the three liberal justices. 895 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 1: So it's a real disaster, and hopefully, you know, somebody 896 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 1: comes up with a thing to do up on that level, 897 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,799 Speaker 1: up on high but five. Yeah, I think to your point, 898 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: just finding ways to get involved at locally is really 899 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,799 Speaker 1: kind of the only thing to do. All right, let's 900 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 1: take another quick break and we'll come back and talk 901 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: about McDonald's ice cream. And we're back, and yeah, when 902 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: you're craving ice cream and you already happened to be 903 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: inside of the McDonald's, nothing beats McDonald's ice cream. It's 904 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 1: the best for when you are physically within six foot 905 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: radius of one of their machines. But the ice cream 906 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: machine has like that there's a problem with the me. 907 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 1: It's all. Yeah, it's almost always broken. They it's so 908 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 1: widespread that it last year. As of last year, there 909 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,319 Speaker 1: was an app called Mick Broken that displays which locations 910 00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 1: have working ice cream machines, and so people were like 911 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what why this is happening. McDonald's 912 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 1: even started like doing self deprecating tweets. They were like, 913 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,319 Speaker 1: we have a joke about our soft served machine, but 914 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 1: we're worried it won't work. Oh boy, it won't work, right, thanks, thanks, 915 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: So it won't work, huh? All right, come on in 916 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 1: So anyways, just a look at the sort of corporate 917 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 1: glut that is the American economy. These are eighteen thousand 918 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 1: dollar ice cream machines. They're made by a company called Tailor, 919 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 1: and basically they are designed to be impossible for McDonald's 920 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: employees to fix if they if they have any problem 921 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 1: the menu options that you need to be able to 922 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 1: just like figure out what the fund is going on 923 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 1: with the thing, just even get to the menu. Just 924 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,799 Speaker 1: to get to the menu, you need no fewer than 925 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 1: sixteen button presses. Not even the owner's manual provides the 926 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 1: code that you need to get like through those sixteen 927 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: button presses. It can't be accessed by McDonald's workers, only 928 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,919 Speaker 1: Tailor employees. So it's like this is Tailor's way of 929 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 1: like insulating themselves so that they always are needed by McDonald's. 930 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 1: And yes, it's like it's like like low energy, non 931 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,800 Speaker 1: violent mobsters, whereas like I hate for your ice cream machine. 932 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 1: To break. That's why you should call us up and 933 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 1: get the protection package. Every week, press the cone icon 934 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 1: on the screen of the tailor C six oh two 935 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 1: digital ized cream machine, then tap the buttons that show 936 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,440 Speaker 1: a snowflake and a milkshake to set the digits on 937 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 1: the screen to five, then two, then three, then one. 938 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 1: After the precise series of no fewer than sixteen button presses, 939 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,359 Speaker 1: the menu magically unlocked. Only with this cheap code can 940 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,880 Speaker 1: you access the machines vital signs. So yeah, do you 941 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 1: guys remember when McDonald's used to aggressively advertise to what 942 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 1: I guess they considered was the urban black community where 943 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,279 Speaker 1: you'd be like hip hop songs and you know, people 944 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,880 Speaker 1: dancing with nuggets and like you know, like and literally 945 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 1: dancing and and and break dancing and whatnot. There's only 946 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,840 Speaker 1: one way to solve this, And to be honest with you, 947 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 1: it's something that I'm kind of disappointed in all of 948 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 1: us that have driven up to a McDonald's late at night, 949 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 1: really just needing to you know, really needing too of 950 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 1: those sundays. I'm disappointed that we haven't thought of it. 951 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 1: The only way to fix this is if if we 952 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,919 Speaker 1: start marketing to the Karen crowd, because the Karen crowd 953 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 1: will take care of this ship. Like I'll tell you 954 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 1: right now, if if they roll up to that McDonald's 955 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 1: two consecutive times and it's not working, Taylor Taylor McDonald's, whoever, 956 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 1: someone's gonna get on top of this. Oh you say 957 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 1: there's low doses of iver mectin at McDonald's and they're like, 958 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 1: I need them now, and they're like, sorry, miss, it's 959 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,360 Speaker 1: not working. And the next thing you know, they're uploaded 960 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,840 Speaker 1: in a viral TikTok video them crying in their front 961 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 1: seat with just like fucking captains going like, dude, due, 962 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 1: I will be brave and get this mcflury machine fixed. Yeah. 963 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 1: I like that. That's that's good energy. We could we 964 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 1: could spread the rumor that people are not serving them 965 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,359 Speaker 1: on purpose because their Karen's like that it's a meme 966 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,959 Speaker 1: and like that would really piste off and like cause 967 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 1: them to get to the bottom of that stuff feel like, yeah, 968 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 1: well this just the whole thing is just so funny too, 969 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,480 Speaker 1: because like it's all like even though it's one of 970 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,880 Speaker 1: the things that a lot of people desire most, you 971 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 1: you'd figure at some point McDonald's be like, hey, we're 972 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,839 Speaker 1: fucking losing money when these machines are working, and still 973 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 1: they're caught in this relationship with Taylor where it's like, Okay, 974 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,280 Speaker 1: I guess every store has thousands of dollars in repair 975 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 1: bills because only Taylor can come and fix the fucking thing. Yeah, 976 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,279 Speaker 1: so this is like part of it. This is a 977 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:52,840 Speaker 1: larger like issue throughout American business. Yeah, they just passed 978 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,479 Speaker 1: like a or I think Biden is trying to get 979 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 1: through a thing that's a right to repair the thing. 980 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 1: That's just like you should be able to fix your 981 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,400 Speaker 1: own stuff that you buy, and there shouldn't be like 982 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,879 Speaker 1: forced obsolescence and forced like technical problems that you can't 983 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,879 Speaker 1: fix so that you need to buy a new one 984 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 1: or pay them. Which I'm surprised because it's this like 985 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 1: the lack of the right to repair that keeps the 986 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 1: consumer machine humming and just people just tossing ship constantly. 987 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, man, the volume button doesn't work on 988 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 1: my TV. How't you go? I have a TV right now, 989 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 1: it just doesn't turn on. And I'm like debating. I'm like, fun, funk, man, 990 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,879 Speaker 1: this ship costs money, Like yeah, and even though I'm like, damn, 991 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 1: g TVs are cheap, part of me is like I 992 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 1: just know someone can come in here, open it up, 993 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 1: and be like, oh, yeah, there's your problem. Think, and 994 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,840 Speaker 1: then it's like a quick fix. But I and I 995 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,879 Speaker 1: also find myself in that same pattern of like, oh 996 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,759 Speaker 1: she doesn't work. Time to trash it and get a 997 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 1: new one. Yeah. So basically Taylor charges franchises thousands of 998 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:58,759 Speaker 1: dollars a year for maintenance contracts to like cope with this. 999 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 1: Two people like create their own like basically game genie 1000 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 1: for this fucking ice cream machine, a gadget the size 1001 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 1: of a small paperback book called Kitch k y t 1002 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 1: c H that hacks the machine and allows McDonald's employees 1003 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 1: to access it. Then Taylor hired a private detective to 1004 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 1: dig up It's like all this betrayal and like espionage. 1005 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 1: And because like one of the people who is the 1006 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,360 Speaker 1: head of equipment team for the National Supply Leadership Council 1007 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,879 Speaker 1: sued them. There's now a tailor Kitch lawsuit, which has 1008 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 1: nothing to do with Taylor Kitch the actor, But they 1009 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 1: actually won a victory for like right to repair ship. 1010 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,960 Speaker 1: Just kind of cool because they completely misrepresented themselves. They 1011 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,959 Speaker 1: were doing this ship where they would go like that. 1012 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,440 Speaker 1: They would be like, oh, I'm just a franchise e owner. 1013 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 1: But there's a difference between a McDonald's own franchise and 1014 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 1: just like an independently owned McDonald's. And what they were 1015 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 1: doing was like they were pretending like, oh, yeah, I 1016 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,799 Speaker 1: want to get one from my from my you know, 1017 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 1: from my restaurant, and then like trying to hack the 1018 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,240 Speaker 1: ship and do all this other stuff and numerous people 1019 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,319 Speaker 1: misrepresenting themselves to Kitch to try and get their hands 1020 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 1: on these devices and ship, and it just shows you, like, 1021 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 1: what is the fucking like more than that, why aren't 1022 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 1: they addressing their issue with Taylor, like, don't come for 1023 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 1: a kitch who was just trying to make the ice 1024 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,880 Speaker 1: cream flow because it's funny and now and now I 1025 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,239 Speaker 1: guess I want to go to my McDonald's and be like, yo, 1026 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 1: y'all have one of those fucking kitchen things long because 1027 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,319 Speaker 1: you always have fucking ice cream like the other one. 1028 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 1: I used to go to North Hollywood fucking never. I 1029 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 1: remember the fucking the week mc flurries came out, this 1030 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,799 Speaker 1: ship was a wrap like it's just like, bro, they're 1031 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,040 Speaker 1: like it's almost like they just like blacked out the men, 1032 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 1: you like, don't even ask about that ship. Yeah yeah, yeah. 1033 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,839 Speaker 1: So last month, but signed an executive order called on 1034 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 1: the which called on the Federal Trade Commission to institute 1035 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,760 Speaker 1: rules to curb all anti competitive restrictions that limit consumers 1036 00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 1: ability to repair gadgets on their own terms. But again, 1037 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 1: you know that we got a Supreme Court and we're 1038 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 1: on the razor's edge, and Congress with with regards from 1039 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:11,359 Speaker 1: the motor Rollo razors edge exactly with regards to just 1040 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, having a party in power that is fully 1041 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,720 Speaker 1: in favor of you know, the power of corporations over people. 1042 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 1: So but I don't know, I feel like this, you 1043 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 1: know because like you know, even Amy Coney Barrett sided 1044 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 1: with you know, it was like no, no, the vaccine mandates, 1045 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,440 Speaker 1: like let those rock. There's part of me that feels 1046 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,759 Speaker 1: like part of conservative culture would be like that. There 1047 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,279 Speaker 1: would be people just even in the base where like 1048 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 1: no man like I should be able to repair the ship. 1049 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 1: Because it doesn't feel like quite a like a culture 1050 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,920 Speaker 1: war battle, you know, more than like something very practical. 1051 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 1: So I am curious to see how it goes. But 1052 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,359 Speaker 1: I won't be surprised if they're like, we've sided with 1053 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 1: the computers, all right. And finally, I do want to 1054 00:56:54,040 --> 00:57:00,200 Speaker 1: talk briefly just j R. Smith's journey from being you know, 1055 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,960 Speaker 1: a meme, the meme of Lebron being very frustrated with 1056 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:05,759 Speaker 1: him when he didn't know what the score was at 1057 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,480 Speaker 1: the end of the best game that Lebron has ever 1058 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 1: played and kind of lost that game for them to 1059 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:17,400 Speaker 1: now being one of the Internet's favorite human beings, my 1060 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,440 Speaker 1: favorite human beings. But first, get we need to give 1061 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 1: people exp because not every look we know this exact game, 1062 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 1: we know not everybody listens books with them, So the 1063 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 1: Jabari Jack would do one of you want to set 1064 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,920 Speaker 1: the table for people so they can understand, like a 1065 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 1: quick primer into JR. Smith to understand where we're going 1066 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 1: with this whole story, because I want to make sure 1067 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 1: everyone on it, because I think this is beautiful, but 1068 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,120 Speaker 1: I have to make sure all the listeners buy in. First, 1069 00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,760 Speaker 1: I do just want to say j R. Smith, like, 1070 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,960 Speaker 1: while I mentioned the meme thing, like that's purely me 1071 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:49,720 Speaker 1: talking about like his perception within the social media landscape, 1072 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 1: Like anybody who makes it to the NBA and has 1073 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 1: a sixteen year NBA career is like a one in 1074 00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 1: a million, like gifted genius that like should be completely respected. 1075 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, Jabari, why don't you you had a tweet 1076 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 1: about just like kind of his journey. Yeah, I mean, oh, 1077 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 1: you know what, I'll reference that exact tweet anybody that 1078 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,480 Speaker 1: basically goes from playing ball in New Jersey to making 1079 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 1: it to the NBA and at all, let alone being 1080 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,360 Speaker 1: an actual really good player, winning two titles, winning a 1081 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,040 Speaker 1: six Man of the Year, having a stint in China 1082 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 1: midway through his career. When when when honestly a lot 1083 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:29,920 Speaker 1: of us are like, Okay, well that's gonna be the 1084 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,160 Speaker 1: rest of his career. Nope, came on back one titles 1085 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,120 Speaker 1: after the fact, you know that that really is the 1086 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 1: American dream, and like and and now I'm sorry. And 1087 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,640 Speaker 1: now he's thirty five years old, going back to college 1088 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,880 Speaker 1: to to uh, you know, to compete in collegiate golf 1089 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 1: and live tweeting about his experiences and study hall and 1090 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But I I can't think of a 1091 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:53,920 Speaker 1: better Yeah, he's he's some of his tweets. Yeah, so 1092 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 1: he's a great golfer and is going to be on 1093 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 1: the golf team and is like apparently a very fun 1094 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,480 Speaker 1: teammate on the golf team. But he's he's just like 1095 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:07,080 Speaker 1: a college student right now. Yeah, and his tweets are 1096 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:11,840 Speaker 1: fucking amazing, just like someone that's just I'm just gonna 1097 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,040 Speaker 1: read a couple of them right from his his first 1098 00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,520 Speaker 1: weeks and going back to college as a third like 1099 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,360 Speaker 1: a retired NBA player who just won a championship to 1100 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,000 Speaker 1: the previous season and now just trying to be a student. 1101 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 1: Just trying to be low key even though you're sucking 1102 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,280 Speaker 1: j R. Smith. He says, everywhere and everyone around the 1103 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,640 Speaker 1: city keep asking me who you got doing your who 1104 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,160 Speaker 1: you got doing your work? Ship me l O L. 1105 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:36,800 Speaker 1: I'm really trying to learn something, the funk thing. He's like, 1106 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,320 Speaker 1: I'm really here, first tutoring session in the books. I 1107 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:45,000 Speaker 1: really like Mrs Burke extremely helpful. You're like, alright, j R. Smith, 1108 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,560 Speaker 1: I'm like this. Next someone says, do you attend the 1109 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 1: dining halls for meals or do you cook from home? 1110 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 1: And he quote tweeted responded, he said, I'm going to 1111 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 1: start learning how to cook. I'm way too old to 1112 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,120 Speaker 1: not know how to learn how to at least cook 1113 00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,280 Speaker 1: two to three meals. That's just lazy. I'm like, it's 1114 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,360 Speaker 1: like you're talking sense, like like mothers would have visited. 1115 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 1: And then somebody was like, oh, what do you want 1116 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 1: to learn to cook? And he said shrimp alfredo and 1117 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 1: somebody was like, dude, that's like the easiest thing to 1118 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,880 Speaker 1: cook in the world. And he would have been like, 1119 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,760 Speaker 1: shut the funk up, but he was like, well, not 1120 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 1: for me, and just like yeah right, like yeah, exactly 1121 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,200 Speaker 1: after that ship with Lebron and the Calves and that 1122 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 1: me meme moment, I feel like he's got some thick 1123 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:31,640 Speaker 1: skin someone saying. He's like yeah, yeah, okay, keep it moving. 1124 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,480 Speaker 1: And then when this other one I really love, he said, 1125 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 1: finished my English homework, dope short story about a little 1126 01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 1: girl with six brothers and seeking parental approval, dope reading, 1127 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 1: and then the books are stack of books emoji, and 1128 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,040 Speaker 1: I was like, he's loving it. And I love to 1129 01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,800 Speaker 1: see like this sort of you know, when you see 1130 01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,120 Speaker 1: people kind of get this whole new energy about them 1131 01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,240 Speaker 1: rather than just being like, let me let the momentum 1132 01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,600 Speaker 1: dissipate of being in the NBA and being an athlete. 1133 01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:57,960 Speaker 1: And then I just kind of figured out from there, 1134 01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:59,400 Speaker 1: He's like, no, I want to go. I want to 1135 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,400 Speaker 1: go get a duke. I I want to learn. And 1136 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,680 Speaker 1: I'm loving that too. He's basically Rodney Danger filling back 1137 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:10,439 Speaker 1: to school, except for yeah, an NBA champion really and yeah, 1138 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:14,760 Speaker 1: I mean somebody like asked their cousin if they like, 1139 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,040 Speaker 1: who goes to that college? If they see him on campus, 1140 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, all the time, he's legit, like 1141 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,600 Speaker 1: on campus, yeah, yeah, he's going to a historically black 1142 01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,960 Speaker 1: college North Carolina. Yeah yeah, so yeah, he's just good. 1143 01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 1: It's just it's also funny to see tweets of other 1144 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,440 Speaker 1: students at the at the college be like, Yo, let 1145 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:36,200 Speaker 1: this man fucking live okay, Like you guys are mobbing him, 1146 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,800 Speaker 1: and he's just he's a student, just like any of 1147 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 1: us trying to get this degree. And I'm like, I 1148 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,480 Speaker 1: love it. I just love everything about this story where 1149 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,439 Speaker 1: this like other people who like, I get it, he's 1150 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 1: here and maybe it's a distraction, but also respect that 1151 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 1: he's also pursuing an education. The fact that he's made 1152 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,520 Speaker 1: it this far without like getting signed up for a 1153 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,800 Speaker 1: reality show that is like following him around with the 1154 01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:01,160 Speaker 1: giant camera crew is impressive. Because that's you know, that's coming, 1155 01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 1: or at least somebody is. He's having to turn down 1156 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:07,040 Speaker 1: a lot of money to to keep that out of 1157 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:11,040 Speaker 1: this journey. He also said somebody was like, you gotta 1158 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,120 Speaker 1: sign up for intermural basketball, and he's like, facts, So 1159 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:19,000 Speaker 1: can you imagine? I mean, I will pay to see 1160 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,240 Speaker 1: those Oh my god, if I should up the intermural 1161 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,480 Speaker 1: And j R. Smith is sitting there, it's like, come on, man, 1162 01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 1: what the fun are we doing? Yeah, I mean, I'm 1163 01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,360 Speaker 1: I'm trying to play, but yeah, I mean in a 1164 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 1: way like I'm so competitive. Sometimes I can see that 1165 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,560 Speaker 1: turning into straight up rage at j R. Smith because 1166 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, you shouldn't be here. You're a fucking immortal 1167 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,520 Speaker 1: and it's not right. I'm just trying to fucking do 1168 01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,160 Speaker 1: me and You're gonna wind mill on me? Are you 1169 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:50,320 Speaker 1: fucking dumb? I don't need this Coke miles coming back, Yeah, 1170 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:54,080 Speaker 1: cocaine murals miles coming back, and yeah, just man, it 1171 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,320 Speaker 1: was a fucking foul man. And it was just like 1172 01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,320 Speaker 1: low bridging him and Ship They're like, oh my god, dude, 1173 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:05,000 Speaker 1: this guy's sucking Say yeah, what like when the worst 1174 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:09,000 Speaker 1: guy on Georgetown would come to like run at like 1175 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:13,120 Speaker 1: the gym where everybody played like in definitely the worst guy. 1176 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,320 Speaker 1: It was just like night and day. Could you imagine 1177 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:19,240 Speaker 1: somebody who was the best player on Georgetown, let alone 1178 01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,560 Speaker 1: the like one of the best players in the world, 1179 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:27,400 Speaker 1: like playing interviereal basketball. Like coming up, I played in 1180 01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,120 Speaker 1: the league based out of Tarzana Park. It was actually, 1181 01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,960 Speaker 1: you know, pretty pretty competitive league. Like at the time 1182 01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,280 Speaker 1: when Gilbert Raines was in college, he you know, he 1183 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,880 Speaker 1: played in you know, foolishly, and I can tell you 1184 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,040 Speaker 1: what it feels like. I was one of those folks 1185 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,320 Speaker 1: that I came up playing basketball, played you know, played 1186 01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:47,040 Speaker 1: high school, played traveling teams and whatnot. It was a 1187 01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 1: man a RC. I absolutely did play r RC you know, 1188 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:54,479 Speaker 1: shout out to North Hollywood games, but playing the gift 1189 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,000 Speaker 1: guys that are that have that have it. It's night 1190 01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,920 Speaker 1: and day. If you don't, don't belong on the core 1191 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,120 Speaker 1: with him. So it's it's always funny to me when 1192 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,000 Speaker 1: I see people on NBA Twitter talking about, oh, I 1193 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,920 Speaker 1: could I could school that dude, or I could do it, 1194 01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,960 Speaker 1: and honestly, they're like, really, the funny part is when 1195 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,880 Speaker 1: they're saying it about about the w n b A 1196 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,000 Speaker 1: and it's like, do you know what those ladies would 1197 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,960 Speaker 1: do to you? Like, do you have any idea videos 1198 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,520 Speaker 1: of that exactly of ship talkers who step to w 1199 01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:23,439 Speaker 1: NBA players and just get fucking dusted rints, put out 1200 01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,000 Speaker 1: to dry, folded iron and then put back in the 1201 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 1: fucking drawer. I got a buddy right now that still 1202 01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,080 Speaker 1: believes it, like since the w an B A storready now, 1203 01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 1: and this one was the dude, you know what, he 1204 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,760 Speaker 1: may listen to this he was not as good as 1205 01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,479 Speaker 1: the rest of us, and he swears up and down, 1206 01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,240 Speaker 1: he swears up and down that he would absolutely destroy them, 1207 01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,480 Speaker 1: and I just put a life of me. It's like, oh, 1208 01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,960 Speaker 1: you're not eat six ft. That's his fragile sense of masculinity. 1209 01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:49,120 Speaker 1: I mean, that would be a ratings bonanza if they 1210 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,160 Speaker 1: if they just scheduled games against people who swore up 1211 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,520 Speaker 1: and down, they can just watch those people's humanity just 1212 01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:57,800 Speaker 1: be fucking I would love. Oh my god. It's a 1213 01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,880 Speaker 1: show called Funk Around and find Out and it's like 1214 01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,600 Speaker 1: pros versus Joe's. But what we do is we put 1215 01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,760 Speaker 1: people in psy ops basically, right, it's a side op 1216 01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,680 Speaker 1: against these people being like gas them up. Oh you 1217 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,920 Speaker 1: got to repair you up with somebody who ain't ship, bro, 1218 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,200 Speaker 1: You're gonna suck them up. And then we're really being like, okay, 1219 01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,360 Speaker 1: so you're ready to funk with Candice Parker, right you go? 1220 01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,200 Speaker 1: You ready for this? You sure can? You just can 1221 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,640 Speaker 1: you handle this? And then they just get destroyed and 1222 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,480 Speaker 1: then come to them and be like, how was that 1223 01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,480 Speaker 1: sit down, sir? As the game is playing like on 1224 01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,280 Speaker 1: the Jumbo Troum, they're just playing like all their comments 1225 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,880 Speaker 1: from earlier about how yeah they're going to be all 1226 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,280 Speaker 1: right right right, you just get posted so easily, and 1227 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,840 Speaker 1: then after every point a ship talking thing has to 1228 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,280 Speaker 1: go up. Oh I got this in the post drop step. Please, guys, 1229 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:43,560 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you. I think you guys 1230 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:47,320 Speaker 1: are giving away gold here. Pretty good. It's just but yeah, 1231 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,680 Speaker 1: because everyone wants to see a come up and right 1232 01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,760 Speaker 1: and like it knows nothing better than people who swing 1233 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,360 Speaker 1: sway out of their fucking weight class for ship and 1234 01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:00,480 Speaker 1: like gas themselves up on stupid ship ignorance and then 1235 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,160 Speaker 1: be like, I think you're in need of a real 1236 01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:08,959 Speaker 1: practical lesson here. Yeah. Anyway, well, networks got at us. Yeah, yeah, 1237 01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,160 Speaker 1: Jabari has been such a pleasure of having you as 1238 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:15,160 Speaker 1: always where can people find you and follow you? I 1239 01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 1: really appreciate you guys having me back. And like I said, 1240 01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,400 Speaker 1: I hope if this is not a precursor to what 1241 01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:23,240 Speaker 1: could what will come on Tuesday. Twitter's easiest place, Jabari Davis. 1242 01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,000 Speaker 1: NBA UM nineteen media group is the group that I'm 1243 01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,440 Speaker 1: with UM As Jack was and Miles were both kind 1244 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,760 Speaker 1: enough to mention earlier, never meet your heroes as well 1245 01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,440 Speaker 1: as the NBA baseline pot and you said active social media. 1246 01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,200 Speaker 1: I do. Actually I got two quick ones for you. 1247 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,640 Speaker 1: So Nate Robins said, I'm sure that you guys saw 1248 01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:41,720 Speaker 1: you know, the Paul Brothers or maybe you saw the 1249 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,520 Speaker 1: Paul brothers, were you know, talking to Miles Garrett, you know, 1250 01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,200 Speaker 1: talking Bess and going back and forth. Ate Robinson jumped 1251 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,320 Speaker 1: into the mix, and you know it was it was 1252 01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,240 Speaker 1: being you was trying to defend them. Someone's response to 1253 01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:56,520 Speaker 1: Nate Robinson was at bashaw Song said, good morning, it's 1254 01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,720 Speaker 1: been ten months since your fight for anybody just out 1255 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,520 Speaker 1: of where date Robinson got knocked out. It's something in 1256 01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:09,280 Speaker 1: his fight anyhow. Yeah, I like stuff like that and then. Um. 1257 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,880 Speaker 1: The other one was actually by a buddy of mine 1258 01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,960 Speaker 1: at dad Sham Dad really good guy, uh politician top 1259 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,000 Speaker 1: with her at g op Todd. It was, you know, 1260 01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,000 Speaker 1: kind of running his mouth talking ship to somebody saying 1261 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,640 Speaker 1: you know and and and dismissing them saying thanks, how 1262 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,520 Speaker 1: many people voted for you to be one, you know, 1263 01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 1: the one that makes public policy. And my guy at 1264 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,520 Speaker 1: dad Sham Dad reminded him, hey, you ran unopposed, dumb 1265 01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:36,440 Speaker 1: ship man. It must be a nice when you can 1266 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,360 Speaker 1: just kind of assume you're famous, but also can assume 1267 01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,640 Speaker 1: nobody like pays any attention to you, so you can 1268 01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,520 Speaker 1: just make wild ass claims. That's great. Miles, Where can 1269 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,200 Speaker 1: people find you? What's the tweet you've been enjoying? Uh? 1270 01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:50,720 Speaker 1: Find me Twitter, Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also the 1271 01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,200 Speaker 1: other show for twenty day Fiance. If you're working with 1272 01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,680 Speaker 1: a ninety day and weed, I mean, there's no better place, 1273 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,080 Speaker 1: no better place to come on down for the fun times. Uh. 1274 01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:03,360 Speaker 1: Tweet that I like, let's see first one is just 1275 01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,160 Speaker 1: from John Levinstein at John Levinstein and tweeted, I can't 1276 01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,960 Speaker 1: say this hasn't crossed my mind. Uh that a horsty 1277 01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:20,080 Speaker 1: warmer might make my poops nicer. Uh. Steve Fernandez, uh, 1278 01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,000 Speaker 1: you know, a regular guest on the show at Big 1279 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,320 Speaker 1: Her and tweeted, it's just like this sort of conversation 1280 01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,240 Speaker 1: that happened on Twitter. He said, should I date someone 1281 01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:30,559 Speaker 1: that lives in Irvine? And then Alan Strickland Williams said 1282 01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:34,400 Speaker 1: are they er fine? And then someone's like god, damn it, Alan, 1283 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,839 Speaker 1: And then someone else was asking like, no, you're married. 1284 01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,400 Speaker 1: And then Steve said, have you heard of Polly, you know, 1285 01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,800 Speaker 1: like polyamorous, and another person came in said yeah, and 1286 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,800 Speaker 1: I hear she's bad news. It was just like a 1287 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:48,120 Speaker 1: bunch of weird, stupid response and I just for local people. 1288 01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,120 Speaker 1: I like someone saying Irvine and like, yo, they are fine. 1289 01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:57,599 Speaker 1: In line with that, Dan at Flawless Cowboy tweeted shoddy 1290 01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:04,400 Speaker 1: bad like morally two Black tweeted rereading is underrated, which 1291 01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,880 Speaker 1: is just true. Dan Prelman tweeted recently got drunk at 1292 01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:09,920 Speaker 1: a wedding and started a fun made up rumor that 1293 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:14,160 Speaker 1: I baked the cake. And then Steve again tweeted two 1294 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:17,080 Speaker 1: people having sex and they both have harmonicas on their mouths, 1295 01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:22,640 Speaker 1: which is just a great idea. You can find me 1296 01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:24,840 Speaker 1: on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find us 1297 01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,719 Speaker 1: on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. Were at the Daily Zeitgeist 1298 01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:31,040 Speaker 1: on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, 1299 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:34,240 Speaker 1: Daily zeitgeist dot com, where we post our episode and 1300 01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:38,240 Speaker 1: our footnotes where we link off to the information we 1301 01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,400 Speaker 1: talked about in today's episode, as well as a song, 1302 01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,120 Speaker 1: and we think you might enjoy. Miles, What song are 1303 01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,479 Speaker 1: you sending people to today? This is a track from 1304 01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,360 Speaker 1: an art again just so much good new music China 1305 01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:53,120 Speaker 1: s h y n n A an m C from 1306 01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:57,560 Speaker 1: I'm I'm Guessing Philadelphia because their profile says slytherin Philadelphia, 1307 01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:02,320 Speaker 1: Leo Shy Fiery because they're called Shin China, So I'm 1308 01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:06,200 Speaker 1: really liking the bioinformation. And the track is called one 1309 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:11,360 Speaker 1: dot to eight dot one nine guessing the day being January, 1310 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,639 Speaker 1: and it's just like it's just got nice, dark, kind 1311 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:18,920 Speaker 1: of futuristic gutter rap production. It's kind of glitchy and 1312 01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,080 Speaker 1: I just like her low energy flow, but it's like 1313 01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,960 Speaker 1: menacing till too. At the same time, I'm really liking 1314 01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,160 Speaker 1: all the new fcs that are coming out. So this 1315 01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,720 Speaker 1: is China with one to eight, one nine. All right, 1316 01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,719 Speaker 1: don't check that out. The Daily Zey guys are production 1317 01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,400 Speaker 1: of I heart Radio. For more podcasts from my heart Radio, 1318 01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,200 Speaker 1: visit the i heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever 1319 01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,479 Speaker 1: you listen to your favorite shows. That is gonna do 1320 01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,120 Speaker 1: it for us this morning, but we are back this 1321 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,200 Speaker 1: afternoon to tell you what is trending, and hey, we'll 1322 01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:46,639 Speaker 1: talk to you all then, Bye bye,