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He'll be interview with celebrity CEOs, 27 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision make because it's what he likes 28 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: to do. It's what he likes to share. Now it's 29 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: time to hear from my man, Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. 30 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: Here we go. Well, it feels so good. You know 31 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: when you're hitting stride. I'm starting to hit a stride 32 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: in my show. I'm starting to feel good about myself. 33 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: That's what that's how you that's how you know you're 34 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: starting that you got the right model. I'm doing the 35 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: show for me because of the fact I want to 36 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: deliver information to you. 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I just started 62 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: talking and giving advice and motivating people to get out 63 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: their chair and change their lives. That's what I do 64 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: each Money Making Conversation radio talk show us about entrepreneurship 65 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: and entertainment. I provide the consumer and business owner access 66 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: to celebrities, CEOs, entrepreneurs and Injurtry decision makers. They turned 67 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: me and being my guests, deliver information about career planning, motivation, 68 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: financial literacy, and how they leave their balanced life. My 69 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: guess is on the line. This first time we spoke, 70 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: I did a little short chat before we got online 71 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: here just to break the ice, let him know I 72 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: love him and respect him. My first next guest is 73 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: a husband, a son, a brother, a believer in Christ, 74 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, and they starting outside linebacker for the New 75 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: York Jets. Please welcome to Money Making Conversation, Brandon Copeland. 76 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: I aw you doing man, pretty good brand, Okay, Brandon. 77 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: You know I always always go through the bios. I 78 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: really try to take my time and get a little nuggets. 79 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: And so when I see something like a believer in Christ, 80 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: that means that that's something that's important to you because 81 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: it's part of your bio. Why is it important for 82 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: you to say that and have it's part of your bio? Yeah, 83 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: I think, Well, I know I would literally not be 84 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: where I'm at today without that, Um, without God. I mean, 85 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: there's so many times in my life, you know, if 86 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: you look at the soup all, but then also bigger 87 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: than life, bigger than football. Um, there's so many different 88 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: things that I've seen and witnessed and just a miracle 89 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: of life in general. You know, I know for a 90 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: fact that I would not be here without without his blessing. 91 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: And uh, yeah, that that's I think. We look at 92 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: even simple stuff like just the mindset, I'm blessed what 93 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: you see And you speak to a lot of people 94 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: in your in your show, and I'm sure you leave 95 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: a lot of those conversations like wow, like that person 96 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: there's something different about him, like that the way he 97 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: takes information and instead of it letting, instead of it 98 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: being a deterrent to him or an obstacle to him, 99 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: he turns out into motivations and how he or she 100 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: turns out in the motivation somehow, right like that? To me, 101 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: it is a simple blessing, right because I could have 102 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: a personality that took that and use that as an 103 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: excuse or an obstacle for why I wasn't great or 104 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: why I couldn't make it so. Um. So yeah, that's 105 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: where everything starts. Well, you know, it's interesting because in 106 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: the game of football, especially professional football, faith is a 107 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: big component. You see a lot of players and a 108 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: lot of players sharing prayer before especially after the game. 109 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: Why why do you feel it's such a strong route 110 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: and uh, the game of professional football faith. Wow, that's 111 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: a that's a great question. I think. I think there's 112 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: it starts with your upbringing. Um And I think that 113 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: you actually see a lot of teams praying together before 114 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: a game. Um. You know do you, like you said, 115 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: you have this prayer circles, you have your Bible studies 116 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: on teams and stuff like that, and those just select 117 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: group of guys that choose to do those. But then 118 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: even as like a locker room, we pray together before 119 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: and after every single bang, right, which I think is 120 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: pretty powerful. Um And And ultimately you know, there I 121 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: was actually just having a conversation about understanding about the 122 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: battle of preseason and going into a preseason camp and 123 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: football being one of the most Uh, this is going 124 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: into year seven for me, but my rookie year, I 125 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: realized that football was one of the most cutthroat but 126 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: beautiful sports at the same time. And the fact that 127 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: like you literally can sit in the room where there's 128 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: seven linebackers, right and you know they're only four of 129 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,559 Speaker 1: you are going to make the team, but you still 130 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: find a way to be friends and still find a 131 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: way to help each other. Like I know that I'm 132 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: literally fighting to take your job or you're not going 133 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: to be able to pay your bills this year from 134 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: the NFL per se specifically because me, but we still 135 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: find a way to coach each other up and help 136 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: each other out and laugh and joke off the field 137 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: and build relationships. And I think that that all has 138 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: to do with faith, right. I think one of the 139 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: things the pieces of advice a God gave to me 140 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: my ricky year was like, you can't stress what you 141 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: can't control, and some of the decisions made, especially in 142 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: the NFL locker room and the businesses sports, are well 143 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: out of your control. And those that's all up to God. 144 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: All you can do is work as hard as possible, prepare, train, 145 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: and and leave it all out there on the field 146 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: and let God take care of the rest, right and 147 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: for good or bad. You know, you might look at 148 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: a decision as bad in the moment, but it might 149 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: be you know, it's God's plan, it's God's work, and 150 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: in the long run, it's it's all in in your 151 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: favor in my opinion. So absolutely, that's why I wanted 152 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: to bring that up because you know, football is such 153 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: an interesting sport, you know, because faith plays are such 154 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: a major play in it, and then they go out 155 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: on the field and somehow faith doesn't play a role 156 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: in the tackling. It's like, you know what I'm saying, 157 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: it's a guy coming that you branded uh for for 158 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: four to speed you. You you look at them going, okay, 159 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: really you you're gonna come at me like that. I'm 160 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: gonna come at you like that, and we're gonna man 161 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: up in a minute at this yard line. And so 162 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: that's why it's a really an amazing sport because it's 163 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: a blessing, but it also has a physical timeline tied 164 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: to it, and I think the one in my tone, 165 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: I realize you're an undrafted free agent going to your 166 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: bio and you said, I'm going into my seventh year 167 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: in the league, and you know how it is, So 168 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: every year you've been grinding, grinding, So faith has has 169 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: has played a major role because guess what, you just 170 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: never know what happens. You know we're talking negative, but 171 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: you just never know. And so now your seventh year, 172 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: where are you in perspective to all of this? What's 173 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: the next step for you? Yeah? I think UM. For 174 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: me personally, I always say when you people ask what year, 175 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: and I say, going into year seven? God willing you know, um? 176 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: And I really believe that. UM. I literally take things 177 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: one day at a time. So for me personally, football 178 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: has always been a means to an end. Uh. In 179 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: high school, I remember eating football as my way to 180 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: get to college. Uh. Then college it was okay, hey, 181 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: I can take this and get to the NFL, and 182 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: that will be my way to start my own empire, 183 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: build my own is going to create my own culture, 184 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: you know, change people's lives, all that stuff, and that 185 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: would be startup capital. So for me, now in year seven, 186 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm in the midst of actually creating 187 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: that empire. I'm doing real estate. I'm I'm a professor 188 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: of financial literacy and my alma monitor, I have a foundation. 189 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: I'm I'm working on production company and producing content and 190 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: stuff like that. Um so I'm I'm. Year seven for 191 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: me is one of the culmination of a lot of 192 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: hard work. I finally got the chance to start this 193 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: past season and had my best season yet and now 194 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: I'm playing on building on that this this season and 195 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: you know, tearing it up on the field first and foremost, 196 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: but then also really hustling up off the field to 197 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: create that empire and that financial freedom for myself and 198 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: my family for the rest of our lives. And that 199 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: is my my ultimate goal is when I'm done for ball, 200 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: to be able to tell people this. I used to 201 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: get shy and saying this, and I used to feel 202 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: a little, you know, reserved by saying this. But I'll 203 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: pick back the cockiness or the arrogance that it comes 204 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: off as, and I'll explain it. But I literally want 205 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: to do what I want when I want when I'm 206 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: done football, right, And what that means is some days 207 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: I want to wake up and run my house flipping business, 208 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: and I want to be I want to pick out 209 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: tiles and carpets, pink colors and all that stuff. Right, 210 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: and some days I just want to be a founder. 211 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: I want to run my foundation. I want to go 212 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: out into the community and and help people and help 213 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: families and and help kids reach their potential. Because I 214 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: want to go to the next break. I want the 215 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: Phone's Brandon a couple and from Botomore, Maryland. I lived 216 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 1: in New Jersey where he's completely his best season as 217 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: the starting outside linebacker for the New York Jets. We'll 218 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: be back with more of Brandon Copeland. He's the man, 219 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: He's a eiver, he's a player. Hi, this is ra 220 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: Sean McDonald money making Conversations. If you have not heard 221 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: about money making conversation, somebody will eventually tap you on 222 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: your should and say you better here. Okay, doesn't do that. 223 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: Right up, my my guests on the phone right now. 224 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: I said it earlier in the in his intro. Is 225 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: her husband and son, a brother, a believer in Christ, 226 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, and the starting outside livebacker for the New 227 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: York Jazz. You know this is title. You know you 228 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: have to get a title, and you take that title, 229 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: and you don't run from it. I've had many athletes 230 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: on every tide of athletes, and I always tell them 231 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: about the NFL. That is an exclusive club, my friend. 232 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: You do you you you use the NFL as much 233 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: as you can to build your brand outside of the NFL, 234 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: because guess what everybody knows about the NFL. He's on 235 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: the phone, he's just talking about building his empire. Please 236 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: welcome back to the show, Brandon Copeland. I think you 237 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: just you just put the nail right on the head. 238 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: You you use the NFL as much as you can 239 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: to build your brand. I'm telling yourself. But that's what 240 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: used to you. You know what I was talking to 241 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: h I talked to people all the time, and uh 242 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: and some of them athletes, and some of them are 243 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: trying to run away from the NFL. They try to 244 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: I'm done with that. That's excuse me, excuse me. You 245 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: gonna let you know, Rashan McDonald could never have played 246 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: in NFL. Okay, when you think about playing it, but 247 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: that's here's that's that sport is so removed from the 248 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: average guy. Okay, I didn't play flag football, touch football. 249 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: That's not professional football. I'm sorry. Just look at that 250 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: little league they got on right now, the AL I've 251 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: tried to look at that and that go, that's not football, 252 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: you know what. That's not college football, and that's not NFL. 253 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: I go up to the Canadian Football League, I go, 254 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: they're playing football officers only three downs. Let me go 255 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: back down to the NFL where they're playing foe downs 256 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: and they crushing people to foe to foe too. You 257 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: know when I look at the combines, that's a big thing. 258 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: And so how do you use bid a starting line 259 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: back up for the New York jest as an advantaged 260 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: for your brand? Yeah? I think I think first and 261 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: fore must you map out? You do your best to 262 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: map out what you want to do and where you're 263 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: trying to go right And the reason why I say 264 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: you do your best career we don't. All of us 265 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: don't know exactly where we want to be five years 266 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: or now. Some people do. And if you do, more 267 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: power to you. Great for you, that's that's amazing. Um, 268 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: But these plans are are ever involving. But um, once 269 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: you've got a decent idea of where you want to be, 270 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: I think that's when you use the brand, use the 271 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: NFL logo to shield to reach out to people who 272 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: can help mentor you in those spaces. This right, Um, I, 273 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: by playing in New York have access to the New 274 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: York market right exactly Exactly. I can reach out to 275 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: people in almost any industry in the world and say, hey, like, 276 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: do you mind taking five minutes of your time to 277 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: sit down with me? Right? Um, I can leverage the 278 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: platform so to speak, and use it for all this 279 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: work at this point to shape hands, meet people and 280 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: who knows where that conversation goes and leads to. And 281 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people, you know, they they're 282 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: not let's say, unwilling to have a conversation, but just 283 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: unwilling to get out of their comfort zone and put 284 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: themselves in an awkward position of reaching out to ask 285 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: for help. Once you get over that and you start 286 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: doing that and making those connects, since then, it's just 287 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: it's like a bowling ball of us that has been 288 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: been grateful. That's something that I'm grateful for from the 289 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: NFL in terms of just having the platform and being 290 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: able to have that blessing to know, hey, I need 291 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: to use it to maximize it now and maximizing today. 292 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: IM gonna ask you this. Uh, this is a this 293 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: is a good question because of the fact that you know, 294 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: you see rather calm and you seem learner in control. 295 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: And uh so I hear read about your teaching this 296 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: life one on one at your alma mate, University of Pennsylvania, 297 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: and uh what is your goal for that class? Because 298 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: you know you're talking finances. You're talking about you're telling 299 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: people about your your vision of what they should do 300 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: with their money or suggestions because you never want to 301 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: say that. You never want to just leaning because people 302 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: are whole accountable. Well, you told me, sir, investing that 303 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: and that and that pig over there, and that pig 304 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: didn't grow like you said. So everything is about with 305 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: a with a disclaimer, disclaimer how like I would tell 306 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: people like I would tell people. You know, I I 307 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: live check to check from a standpoint, that is, what 308 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: do you mean? I said, Well, I only only spend 309 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: what I only spend what I want to pay for 310 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: that month. I don't I don't get out of that. 311 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: I buy my cars, I buy my homes, I buy 312 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: my clothes and if I if I don't exceed what 313 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: I'm planning on spending that month because I don't like 314 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: taking a curative car to the next month. I tell 315 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: people that all the time, and it's really important that, 316 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: uh that people you understand that's what is your life 317 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: one on one? What is your life want on one plane? Yeah. So, um, 318 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: in terms of in terms of the goals for the 319 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: class or apologize for the goals for the class, I 320 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: just got to talking about myself, but the class, because 321 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: that's something because we just don't asking is that it's 322 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: just going to become a webinar or just gonna always 323 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: stay in the classroom format at University of Pennsylvania. So 324 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: so the goal for me personally, I thought that creating 325 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: the class one of my alma mater for a kid 326 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: from Baltimore. Uh, when I went to penn which is 327 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: an ovurly school. You know, I was laughing and chuckling 328 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: myself when I got into the school and and and 329 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: done graduated all that stuff. In the now, I think 330 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: it's it's awesome. I chuckle. You know, I have actually 331 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: have class later on today. I chuckled on my way 332 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: to class every time, and I'm like, this is pretty 333 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: clearly and ironic that that I'm teaching this class, right, 334 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: But my goal for the class is to use it 335 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: as a launching point and really as an experiment two 336 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: fine tune and honing on information so that I can 337 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 1: make it accessible to everyone. What that end game is, 338 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: whether it's a webinar like you said, or an app 339 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: or some type of online platform or whatever. Um, I'm 340 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: not a pcent sure of yet. We played with some 341 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: of my ideas, but my goal is to make this 342 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: information accessible to everyone for free. And I don't think 343 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: it should have to Uh, it shouldn't be contained to 344 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: a college student, you know, not everyone is going to 345 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: go to college, right. Um. I just think that it's 346 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: crazy that you go to twelve years of school, sixteen 347 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: years of school sometimes grad school, and you come out 348 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: and the first time you ever learning about buying your 349 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: first houses when you're trying to purchase your first home, right, Like, 350 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: that's crazy to me. And that's what I'm trying to 351 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: combat with this course. It's just teaching people about financial decisions, 352 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: life decisions that you're going to have to make. Like 353 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: a lot of last classes on credit, I don't care 354 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: who you are, your credit is going to be important 355 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: to you at some point in time of your life, 356 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 1: and so making that information accessible to everybody, UM, not 357 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: just one student body or one certain group of people. UM, 358 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: it's my ultimate goal. Now that's interesting because you know 359 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to your because you're an IVY 360 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: League graduate. Correct, Yes, okay, cool, So let's put that 361 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: in that. That's putting that opening credit. Now. You know 362 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 1: you said I'm a husband, a son, a brother, an 363 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: IVY League graduate, a believer in Christ. You know, because entrepreneur, 364 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: that can say a lot of things. But if you're 365 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: a graduate of an IVY League school, I know exactly 366 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: who you are. Kind about to take that away from you, Brandon, 367 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 1: you know, this is about branding because see, there are 368 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: two things that stand out when you go out in 369 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 1: the general market. Because that because that IVY League graduate 370 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: that screams intelligence. Whoa that screams smart and so so 371 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: that's part. And then you're starting linebacker for that's for 372 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: the New York Jets and Exclusive Club. So you got 373 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: two things going for you. You're physically a member of 374 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: the Exclusive Club and you're super intelligent because you're an 375 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: IVY League graduate. Hey, I graduated from University Houston. I'm 376 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: proud of my university. But I can't seem an Ivy 377 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:11,239 Speaker 1: League graduate. And so I only say that because I 378 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: want you to understand, man, you got something going here 379 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: and and uh and I want you to really take time. 380 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: And I want to say you're not taking time because 381 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: you got your you got your class life one on 382 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: one going at the University of Pennsylvania. But my man, 383 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: you can be way bigger than this. You in New 384 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: York City. You're in New York City. You should be 385 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: going down to Facebook doing some webinars, doing some Facebook lives. 386 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: You should be doing some Paris Cope because, my man, 387 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: you had I've had a lot of people. Eddie George 388 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: is powerful. I've had him on my show. He teaches 389 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: classes at the Ohio State similar tone, but you are 390 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: still playing. So he's retired. So you got it and 391 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: you figured that out while you were playing that right there, 392 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: my friend, you need to build on You need to 393 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: understand how special you really are and you owned something 394 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: very unique and you're gonna keep winning with that. Brandon. 395 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: I I'm just bragging on you right now, brother, because 396 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: I know how the brand people, I know how to 397 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: put people in the right direction. I will mentor you 398 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: as a as a as a person, if you need me, 399 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: you call me. Because in fact that you are something, 400 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: you own to something very special at a young age. 401 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: You are the thirty You're millennial. Man, You're millennial doing this. 402 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: You're not supposed be doing this. Okay, you're a millennial. 403 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: They're talking about you. You don't have no focus. You 404 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: got to plan the focus. I re lead, graduate and 405 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: you keep winning. Brother. Listening makes us smarter, more connected people. 406 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: It makes us better partners, parents, and leaders. 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