1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 2: We're on from one until four, and then after four 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 2: o'clock if you miss stuff John Cobel Show on demand 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: on the iHeart app. Chris Adler is going to come 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 2: on with us with more from UCLA in about a 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 2: half an hour. Deber, you like all these travel statistics. 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: I know because your newscasts are filled with them, you know, well, yes, 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: so you know how many flights today? This is the 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: busiest flight day of the weekend. 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: Oh how many? Fifty three thousand? Fifty three thousand? 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 3: Okay, well, did you know that the head of the 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 3: TSA says this is going to be the busiest travel 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 3: season on record? 15 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: Is that right? 16 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 3: More than eighteen million people are expected to be screened 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 3: by the TSA from now, I knew that would get 18 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: you going till May twenty nine. 19 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: Nothing gets her more excited than travel statistics. 20 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: Oh and well, remember Ken used to say its super 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: duper holiday weekend. 22 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: It's really nice for you to carry on. That's that's fair. 23 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: Thank you. 24 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: We got Michael Monks from KFI News. 25 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: And today Metro had a meeting Karen Bass, the head 26 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: of the board of directors. She gets to screw up 27 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 2: not only the city of Los Angeles, but the Metro 28 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: system as well. We've had an unusual number of stabbings 29 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: and other violent events on buses and trains, and so 30 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,279 Speaker 2: they've they're having a meeting and they're gonna they're gonna 31 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: add more law enforcement. 32 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: There's gonna be a surge. I don't know. 33 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 2: See, let's see what's going on here, Michael. But what's happening, Hey, 34 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: good afternoon, John. 35 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 4: What's happening is a Metro board meeting here downtown that's 36 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 4: now in its fourth hour, and we've not yet had 37 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 4: a vote on what they're calling a surge in public 38 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 4: safety measures at Metro after that string of violent activities, 39 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 4: including some deadly ones. 40 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: So we don't know. 41 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 4: Exactly what everybody on this board has to say. Remember, 42 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 4: the Metro board is made up of some of the 43 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 4: most powerful politicians in La in La County. Four hours, 44 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, four hours, because we had an hour and 45 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 4: a half and two hours of comments about an extension 46 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 4: of a rail line towards Redondo Beach that I got 47 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 4: to watch for your benefit, John, I did it for you. 48 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: Sit through this. You know, that's why they pay me. 49 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 4: And not only that, I'm also watching the city council 50 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 4: meeting taking notes. I got a lot going on down 51 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 4: here today. Man, brain's gonna fall out, it did a 52 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 4: couple of hours ago. So forgive me if I'm a 53 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 4: little slow at responding to your questions. 54 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: So, I mean, is there is there anything? I mean, 55 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: I thought the surge started last week or was it the. 56 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 4: Week before it was announced? And so these types of 57 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 4: things need to be authorized. And we did hear from 58 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 4: Stephanie Wiggins, the CEO of Metro, and she says basically, look, 59 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 4: we're a transit agency, we're not a social services agency. 60 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 4: So we've got to do better. And she did announce 61 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 4: that they've hired I believe she said, seventeen new secure 62 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 4: officers that are now in their six week training period. 63 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 4: They hope to hire more that are in a background 64 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 4: check phase right now, and then they will be adding 65 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 4: about fifty four more. These are the Security. 66 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: Office probably need awe, they probably need a thousand. 67 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: Well. 68 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 4: They're also directing as per the motion that has not 69 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 4: yet been voted on on when emphasize that's coming up 70 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 4: a little bit later in this meeting. They are asking 71 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 4: the Long Beach Police, the LA Police, and the LA 72 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 4: County Sheriff's Office, the three law enforcement agencies that work 73 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 4: with Metro, to be physically present on trains and on buses. 74 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 4: That is part of this as well. They're also going 75 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 4: to try to update cameras, update lighting. Apparently there's a 76 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 4: lot of hiding places john in these stations across town 77 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 4: where drug addicts engage in their wares or homeless people 78 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 4: are sleeping, and that interferes with workers for a Metro. 79 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 4: We're talking about some of the housekeeping workers who are 80 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 4: there to sweep and take out the trash we're running 81 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 4: in here. 82 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: The workers are starting to rebel against all this. That's 83 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: exactly right. 84 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 4: And again, as Stephanie Wiggins said, we're not a social 85 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 4: services agent, so we've got to clean this up. And 86 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 4: this is something that they are discussing today. It will 87 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 4: also be discussed again next month. They're hauling in as 88 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 4: if they approve emotion on this issue today, they will 89 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 4: be hauling in the three different law enforcement agencies to 90 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 4: talk about what their strategies are. Keep in mind, I 91 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 4: mean significant sum of money is paid to the law 92 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 4: enforcement agencies for this work, and I think some of 93 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 4: the folks on the board are also wanting to know 94 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 4: what's not working, what is working, Where these things happening 95 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 4: in spite of the amount of money that is already 96 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 4: spent on law enforcement across the metro system. 97 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: The whole budget's nine billion dollars. It's a lot of money. 98 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 4: A lot of it, of course, goes towards projects that 99 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 4: that are being constructed. That's what the bulk of this 100 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 4: meeting has been about is extending various metro lines. 101 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 2: But if the buses and trains are unsafe, they could 102 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 2: spend billions on extending metro, but no one's going to 103 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: take it because they're afraid of getting killed, and so 104 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: the nine billion is wasted every year. 105 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 4: That's what a lot of writers that I hear from 106 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 4: are saying. Although a group called the LA Bus Writers 107 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 4: Union did they were well represented in the early portion 108 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 4: of this meeting talking against the addition of law enforcement 109 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 4: on trains and buses. They suggest adding social workers and 110 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 4: community organizers who would be able to better connect with 111 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 4: the folks. 112 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: Okay, now I am suspicious. Just for the record, I'm 113 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: suspicious of this bus writers union. It sounds like a 114 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: front for something else. People who take the bus to 115 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 2: work don't join a union and then ask for less 116 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: police while you're getting a stabbing every other day. So 117 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: that sounds like some socialist communist group that is using 118 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: the term bus writers union as a front. 119 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 4: If you go to enough of these meetings, as I do, 120 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 4: you see a lot of these organizations that have similar names, 121 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 4: and there's certainly some membership overlap. 122 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that that's something funky with that organization. And 123 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: of course they have the time to spend hours at 124 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: this meeting. They're not getting paid, or maybe they are 125 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: getting paid. A lot of these activist groups are paying 126 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 2: now they're followers. 127 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 4: Well, regardless of of that, what they're what they were 128 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 4: asking for was one thousand less police and five hundred 129 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 4: more community organizers. 130 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: Community organizers, and what would those people do exactly? Would 131 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: they organize the homeless people, organize the stabbers? 132 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: What would they be organizing? 133 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 4: I guess we'll have the opportunity to ask them on 134 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 4: a later date. 135 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 2: You know, I'm making jokes, but these people have a 136 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 2: lot of influence with the likes of Karen Bass. 137 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 4: Community organ If they show up and calls a ruckus, 138 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 4: you know, that's that's who the elected officials hear from 139 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 4: the most. That's what you see at these meetings. It's 140 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 4: not necessarily what we hear out in the field when 141 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 4: we're talking to folks who are impacted by this directly, 142 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 4: but when it comes to the meetings, you do often 143 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 4: hear a viewpoint that's either identical to that or leaning 144 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 4: in that direction from folks who are addressing these boards directly. 145 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 4: Because a lot of the folks who are taking these 146 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 4: meetings do take place during work hours, of course, so 147 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 4: if you're not able to go to these meetings and 148 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 4: express your opinion in person, you're taking the Metro train 149 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 4: or the bus to your work. 150 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 1: And you're one of the few people who covers these meetings. 151 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm happy to do it, and everyone is grateful for that. 152 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. All right, thank you, Michael. If you 153 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: have anything else, let us know, right I will. 154 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: Indeed, Michael monks KFI News he is covering this metro meeting. Yeah, 155 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: the bus riders union. That sounds bogus, right, that's a 156 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: completely fake group of a bunch of socialists and they 157 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: don't want police. 158 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 159 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 2: And Karen bass I guess was listening to this group 160 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: because we didn't have much police, and now they're going 161 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: to hire seventeen. 162 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: I could believe that number. 163 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: Seventeen ohing down the road, maybe fifty four more after that. Wow, 164 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: that's gonna safeguard the nation, isn't it? Seventeen police? It 165 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: is just hard to believe how absurd the world is. Ambassadors, 166 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: social workers, social workers. There's a crazy guy froffing at 167 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: the mouth. He's got his his hand in the air. 168 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: He's holding a knife. He's about to plunge it into 169 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: my neck. Hey, can I get a social worker? Is 170 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: there an ambassador available? All right, we come back. We've 171 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: got one thousand dollars to give away. How about that? 172 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: That's next. 173 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 174 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 5: six forty. 175 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: We have Chris Adler coming on in about fifteen minutes. 176 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: She's been at UCLA because the protests flared up again. 177 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: While Gene Block, the hapless UCLA chancellor, was testifying before Congress. 178 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 2: The protesters snuck in with tents and they made a 179 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 2: big ruckus and lapd at the storm in and tear 180 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: things down. We're gonna got really heated in the one 181 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 2: o'clock hour. Just as we started the show, things went 182 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: a little crazy at UCLA, and we're going to go 183 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: back to Chris to see what it's like now. But 184 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 2: first we just had Michael Monks on and the poor 185 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 2: guys had to sit through hours of a Metro meeting. 186 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 2: Because speaking of hapless, Karen Bass went way over her head. 187 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: She cannot handle being the mayor of Los Angeles. And 188 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: by the way, if you've got like maybe ten or 189 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: fifteen minutes, there's a comedian, John mulaney, and he had 190 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: a six part Netflix comedy special on a couple of 191 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: weeks ago, and I just watched the first episode and 192 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: it's it's entitled Everybody Lives in LA. And his first 193 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 2: comedy segment was he pulled down a matt to Los Angeles. 194 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: And I don't want to give away the jokes, but 195 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: just just if you watch nothing else, watch watch that 196 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: first ten minutes or so of the first episode of 197 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: John Mulaney, and well, it was very funny, and it's 198 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: about Los Angeles. It's about it's about whether we have 199 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: a mayor or not. So so bass Is really really 200 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: can't handle this job and the Los Angeles times because 201 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: everyone's calling for more police on the Metro buses and trains. 202 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 2: And so the Times is a story about a dead 203 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: man was slumped over on a bench at Metro's San 204 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: Pedro Street station in February. The story is just coming out. 205 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: You know how long he was there? 206 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: How long? Six hours? Six hours? 207 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: He was slumped over on a bench, six hours nobody 208 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: ever checked on him, including five LAPD officers who were 209 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 2: patrolling the platform, so for so for se and this 210 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: isn't funny, but for six hours, the tops are walking 211 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 2: back and forth, back and forth, and they figure out 212 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 2: that guy's just passed out. He's on a terrible drug bench. 213 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: Now you know, you know who did the welfare check 214 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: to see that he died? I have to give credit. 215 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: It was a transit ambassador. So in this case, the 216 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 2: ambassador did the job that the cops weren't doing. And 217 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: this is according to the former Metro security chief, Gina Osborne. 218 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: And she's a real interesting story because Gina Osborne was 219 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: fired by the Metro CEO, Stephanie Wiggins, because Osborne was 220 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: starting to go rogue and point out all the things 221 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: that were going haywire at Metro, and Wiggins didn't want 222 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: to hear it anymore. And Osbourne has now become a 223 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 2: whistleblower and she's giving interviews, and she's telling the real stories, 224 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 2: not all the fake nonsense that you get from Stephanie 225 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 2: Wiggins and from Karen Bass. She says they weren't even 226 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 2: paying attention. They weren't engaged enough to see that there 227 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 2: was a human hunched over. Although I will say, what 228 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 2: is the protocol on that? Why I might walk past 229 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 2: dead people all the time? 230 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you gonna do? What am I gonna do? 231 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna try to resuscitate him? 232 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: Poke him? 233 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, you gonna poke? Almost be well? 234 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 3: That right, So that's the point you're not going to know. 235 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 3: So I bet you a lot of people walked by 236 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 3: and just said I don't want to be involved. 237 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: But the cops and at least they have guns, so 238 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 2: they take out the baton and poke them in the rims. 239 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: Not an ordinary citizen. 240 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 2: Now Osborne, who used to be an FBI agent, you know, Ray, 241 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: we got to see if she wants to talk to us. 242 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: They think she was leaking stuff to David Goldstein over 243 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: a channel too when he was doing those investigative reports. 244 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 2: Osborne says she knows this happened because she and her 245 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: staff had access to cameras set up around the system, 246 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: and so she saw what was going on. And you 247 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 2: know how much Metro is spending just on law enforcement 248 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 2: next year, one hundred and ninety five million dollars, one 249 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: hundred and ninety five million dollars. And look at all 250 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: the stabbings and attacks that are going on. They went, 251 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: they went to an LAPD deputy chief down Graham. Well, 252 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 2: there's always room for improvement, he says. 253 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you could. 254 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: Start poking those guys who have passed out of the beds, 255 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 2: just to see if they're dead or not. 256 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: He claims that they Uh, he looked. He did an. 257 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 2: Investigation and showed the officers were doing their job that 258 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 2: day because they were out there to check the train 259 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: riders were carrying their tap cards and paying their fares. 260 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: So they were not on uh, they were not on 261 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 2: dead duty. They were on are they paying their fairs duty? 262 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 3: Okay, So we have to have separate people for certain duties, 263 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 3: that's right. Yeah, have a contition cross across. 264 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 2: No, if you're there to make sure people are paying fares, 265 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 2: you don't care. 266 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: About dead people. 267 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,479 Speaker 3: No, we're shooting victims or anything. 268 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: Like that until the guy starts to maybe rot a 269 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: little in the uh in the breeze. Now, now, she 270 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: was fired in March Gina Osborne because she reported to 271 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: the agency's inspector general that the Sheriff's deputies. The other 272 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 2: it was LAPD that wasn't checking on the dead guy. 273 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: This is Sheriff's deputies. Because that's one of the problems 274 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: with Metro. They have all these different agencies. They got 275 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: the Long Beach Police, they got the LA Police, they 276 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: got the La Sheriff's Department, They've got their own security personnel. 277 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: And so one of the things they're discussing at the 278 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: meeting today is whether they all have a unified command, 279 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: like one person in charge of. 280 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: All the people. So anyway, Osborne got fired because. 281 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: The sheriff's deputies had failed to patrol the Santa Monica station, 282 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: the E line they call it. And she said, hey, 283 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: we're not patrolling that line. Let me tell you something. 284 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: Since I know a lot of people in Santa Monica 285 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: and I read the next door app in Santa Monica 286 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: because where I live, I'm just a short distance from 287 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: the Santa Monica border. They call the E line the 288 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: crime train, because that line comes in from downtown ends 289 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: in Santa Monica, and at night, when the last train 290 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: has run its course, dozens and dozens of homeless people 291 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: spill out under the Santa Monica streets. And so this 292 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: goes on all the time, and Santa Monica, of course 293 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: doesn't do anything on its own to stop crime and 294 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: homeless people. Basically, it just dumps out, you know, maybe 295 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: one hundred homeless. 296 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: People at night. 297 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: Why don't we take the show there, do a live remote. 298 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: I was thinking, maybe you can be designated as a correspondent. 299 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, if I could wear I don't know. 300 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: A has mat, a hazmat suit and be armed with 301 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: some grenades. 302 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, bulletproof vest and think about it. 303 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: You know, there's more on herb, but we're gonna have 304 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: to get to it another time. But I am going 305 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 2: to say this because it was an extremely long story, 306 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: and we've got the other insanity going on at UCLA, 307 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: and Chris Adler is going to report on that in 308 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: just minutes. 309 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 310 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 5: six forty. 311 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: We're on from one to four, and man, we've got 312 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: a lot going on so far. If you missed it, 313 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: I heart app After four o'clock it gets posted. John 314 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: Cobelt Show on demand, the podcast Okay and Chris Adler 315 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: opened the show with a live description of all Hell, 316 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 2: Break and Lose at UCLA again. Today was the day 317 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 2: that the UCLA Chancellor, Gene Block was going to get 318 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: testified and get beat up by Congress People from both sides, 319 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: Republicans and Democrats, gave him a thorough roasting today over 320 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: the way he did not handle the protests a few 321 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: weeks ago. Well, the protests started up again while he 322 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: was in Washington and it got a little tense. LAPD 323 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: had to be called in and Chris Adler, who's been 324 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: there from the beginning, is going to explain what's going 325 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: on now. 326 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: Chris, Yeah, heye. 327 00:16:58,840 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 5: John. 328 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 6: So when we spoke a little bit earlier, I think 329 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 6: we last left off where I was kind of being 330 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 6: pushed down by LAPD officers along that line where all 331 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 6: those people were gathered up near that camp. Well, LAPD 332 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 6: methodically moved, you know, they would take about ten second 333 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 6: break and then move another five feet, and then take 334 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 6: another ten second break and move another break feet, moving 335 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 6: to people away from the camp and the purpose of 336 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 6: that was to create a barrier wall so that other 337 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 6: officers could get into the camp. And that's what they did, John. 338 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 6: They moved in about ten fifteen officers went in while 339 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 6: that other wall of officers was standing guard. They dismantled 340 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 6: that camp in a matter of minutes and it looked 341 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 6: like the protesters had taken There's a quad between the 342 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 6: buildings where there's tables, chairs, and umbrellas. They used all 343 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 6: of that and then also got brought in plywood, pieces 344 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 6: of palette, different different pieces of wood that they had 345 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 6: brought in somehow without official seeing and without campus police seeing, 346 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 6: and were able to put up this camp, return this camp, 347 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,959 Speaker 6: and we watched as the trucks came and did they did. 348 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 6: These pickup trucks picked up all the plywood. It was 349 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 6: only two small pickup trucks worth of stuff. And Dave 350 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 6: drove off just about fifteen minutes ago. So as of 351 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 6: right now, police have just started leaving campus. I'm watching 352 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 6: officers walk off the campus right now. And John, you know, 353 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 6: it was the difference between this camp and the last 354 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 6: camp was just how quickly it was just dismantled. Police 355 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 6: moved in one by one. There was over. I would 356 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 6: say about between fifty and sixty sixth sent fifty and 357 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 6: sixty LPD officers and they came in and then in 358 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 6: a matter of minutes that camp was dismantled. 359 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: John, That's what it should have been done the first time. 360 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: I mean that that whole protest thing went on for 361 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 2: weeks and there was no reason for it. It just 362 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 2: allowed them to get have their their camp reinforced and 363 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 2: become more embedded. Well, if they brought in all this 364 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: wood these palettes, right, they had to bring in tools, 365 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 2: and they had to have and nails and drills or 366 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: what Man, how did they do all that without anybody 367 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 2: stopping them immediately? 368 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 6: You know, John, the pieces of wood and the tables, 369 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 6: the umbrellas, and they used whatever they could get their 370 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 6: hands on. It wasn't secured. It was kind of just 371 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 6: piled up. This was kind of a lackluster camp, if 372 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,239 Speaker 6: you will. It wasn't quite the camp the sophistication of 373 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 6: the camp that we saw last time, where they had 374 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 6: a lot of time where we were hearing power drills 375 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 6: as we were going live, you know, we heard them 376 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 6: hammering and nailing those pieces of wood. 377 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 4: But here it was kind. 378 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 6: Of just set up against the barrier. 379 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 2: Uh. 380 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 6: These protesters were making a point today as Gene Block 381 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 6: was testifying on Capitol Hill where he was scheduled to testify, 382 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 6: and they said, you know, the pro Palestinian protesters, they 383 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 6: they're upset because they were attacked during what they call 384 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 6: a peaceful protest. But then the Jewish students say, no, 385 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 6: you know, they're both not happy with gene Blocks. Okay, 386 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 6: the Jewish students are saying, well, you know, gene Block 387 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 6: also allowed Jewish students to be exiled out of the building. 388 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 6: They had to have wristbands to get in, and so 389 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 6: both sides are not happy with you. 390 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: But yeah, both sides are telling the truth. 391 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 2: The Jewish students were harassed and threatened for and blocked 392 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 2: for a couple of weeks, and then finally there was 393 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 2: retaliation against the Palestinian students. And Jean Block did nothing 394 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 2: but sitting on his rear end the whole time. So 395 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: that's how he got everybody upset, and he had everybody 396 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: upset in Congress too. 397 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: Nobody was taking his. 398 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 6: Side, right, and so you know, we talked to students 399 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 6: today and the students are stilled. There's a lot of 400 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 6: students walking around on campus. I'm still here on campus, 401 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 6: are walking around their classes in sessions on and a 402 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 6: lot of them say, you know, oh, you know, the 403 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 6: camp didn't bother me. But then others say, yeah, this 404 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 6: has been a major distraction. We hope that this camp 405 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 6: doesn't pop up for graduation next month in June. So 406 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 6: there's you know, there's some people's divided, some are concerned, 407 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 6: some are not concerned. But you know, for the most part, 408 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 6: so the students are not happy the way that the 409 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 6: university handled these situations. A lot of them were couldn't 410 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 6: believe how long the camp was allowed to be out 411 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 6: there and kind of control the university. 412 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: I guess there is not a security guard at the 413 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 2: entrance who with it with a walkie talkie radio who 414 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 2: who would say, Hey, we've got six students and they're 415 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: carrying wood boards and they're marching down this particular pedestrian path, 416 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 2: so let's let's head them off and right. 417 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 6: And these pieces of wood you can tell they didn't 418 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 6: come from the campus on These were brought in. They 419 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 6: were great painted, they were they were not part of 420 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 6: the university. They were brought in, So how did they 421 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 6: get in? You would have thought that there would have 422 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 6: been a heightened security, you know, because you had UCLA 423 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 6: said that safety is paramount. So it is interesting and 424 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 6: you do make a valid point there, so you know, 425 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 6: but I just talked to protesters, and the protesters say 426 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 6: they're going to come back. They're going to be back 427 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 6: until the university divests. 428 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 2: Well they're not going to divest, and uh, but they 429 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 2: might be allowed to come back simply because everybody is 430 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 2: so bad at their job at UCLA when it comes to, uh, 431 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 2: protecting the place and providing security. It's amazing after what 432 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: they went through a couple of weeks ago, that they 433 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: allowed another round of students to come in there with 434 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 2: their materials to build another camp. 435 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. 436 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 2: Chris, great reporting today, and if anything else happens, you've 437 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 2: come back on all right, right, Chris Adler on the 438 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 2: scene for KFI News. Meantime, there are now some of 439 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 2: the protesters from a couple of weeks ago who are 440 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: angry that UCLA had a security firm named Apex Security Group, 441 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 2: who apparently, they say was roughing people up. Two students. 442 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 2: They said they saw a student. Let me see, they 443 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 2: witnessed a protester standing your Powell Library try to move 444 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 2: a metal barrier because people wanted to flee, And this 445 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 2: guy who's moving the barrier claims he was met with 446 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: force by members of Apex Security group. They these witnesses 447 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 2: wanted anonymity because they're afraid of retaliation by the university. 448 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: Oh no, that's not going to happen. Please, do you 449 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: think gene Block is retaliating. 450 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: They claim that members of Apex Security started attacking the student. 451 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: Around five to seven of the security guards. Two or 452 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 2: three of them were trying to hit him on the 453 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 2: head and others were trying to restrain him. Well, Jaz, 454 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 2: look at that. Let me write that down. Apex Security Group. 455 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 2: These guys mean business. You want this is who you 456 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 2: want in your neighborhood. The protesters are broke free of 457 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 2: the security guards and ran and he had a bruised face. 458 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 2: One of the guards that punched him. It was really unwarranted. 459 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 2: He moved back a little bit and they attacked. It 460 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: was a really scary feeling. I'd never seen someone get 461 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 2: beat up like that in person before. Well, how about 462 00:23:55,720 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 2: you don't get involved in protests. How about you go 463 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: back to your dorm room and do your homework. Go 464 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 2: back to your frat house and have a beer. This 465 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 2: because unless you do this, unless the students are afraid 466 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: that something bad is going to happen to them, they're 467 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 2: going to keep doing this nonsense. 468 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: And that's not what the university is for. 469 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 2: Somebody who wrote a story the other day and it 470 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: sounded like an absurd headline, but it's true. We have 471 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 2: forgotten what universities are for. Yes, you do, I have 472 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: to sound like I'm eight years old. You go to class, 473 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 2: you do your work, you get a degree, you go 474 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: get a job in the real world. 475 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: But but this this, they're all dilettants. 476 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 2: They're all this is all performative, I guess because so 477 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: many of them are rich and they really maybe they 478 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 2: don't have to worry about life. 479 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: They know they've got a lot of mommy and daddy money. 480 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 2: To fall back on, so they could just you know, 481 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: spend their days studying like weird gender studies or some 482 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 2: such nonsense and you know, some human research Morris's study 483 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: program and that, so they could give their lives meaning 484 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 2: by joining a larger clause. Yeah, let's fight the Jews, 485 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 2: Let's fight Israel. Let's wipe Israel off the mat. And 486 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 2: now they're all pumped up and ready to be ready 487 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 2: to go. Must be some weird psychology like that, because 488 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: I keep going back, and you should look this story up. 489 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: We went, we did this yesterday cal State LA, which 490 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,479 Speaker 2: is working class kids. In fact, some of them are older, 491 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: and some of them not only are taking a full 492 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 2: load of classes, they have a job to pay for 493 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 2: their tuition at cal State LA. And they were interviewed 494 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 2: and they said, we have no time for this. You know, 495 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: maybe maybe the rich kids, the rich white kids over 496 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: at UCLA have time for this, but not the working 497 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: class Hispanic kids who are juggling classes and a job, 498 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 2: because they sounded closer to being adults than these silly 499 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 2: fools at UCLA and and Gene Block, instead of turning 500 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 2: these people into adults, has coddled and cradled them like 501 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 2: a bunch of toddlers. Well, of course, that's why they're 502 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 2: acting like toddlers. That's why they're stamping their feet and 503 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 2: screaming and shouting their rhymes. 504 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,959 Speaker 1: Because they were raised as toddler's. All right, more coming up. 505 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 2: Oh, it looks like we got some good Biden clips here. 506 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: And we have a new term for criminals. 507 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: Yes, a new progressive euphemism for bad people. 508 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on Demand from KFI AM. 509 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: Six forty after three o'clock. We're gonna have Heather McDonald on. 510 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 2: She's with the Manhattan Institute, writes for City Journal. We've 511 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 2: had her on a number of times over the years, 512 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 2: and she has written a new piece. I'll tell you 513 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 2: the title, California's Looming crime Catastrophe. Looming crime catastrophe. It 514 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: means this is a crime catastrophe that hasn't happened yet but. 515 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: Is going to How can it be worse? It's going 516 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: to get worse. 517 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 2: And Heather is gonna explain why she's written a piece, 518 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: and I have read it and I am hoping that 519 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 2: she can explain this. Clearly, it looks like there were 520 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: changes in the law that's going to allow criminals to 521 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 2: get resentenced or get out early. It was snuck in 522 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 2: through a questionable maneuver in the legislature. We'll explain all 523 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: this coming up, but first, lots of things happen, you know, 524 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: while we're on the air on the fly, so I 525 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: haven't heard these clips, but apparently the UH there was 526 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: a press conference that Joe Biden held and he was 527 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 2: holding this press briefing with the Kenyan president, and reporters 528 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 2: started shouting out questions and then Crine Jean Pierre had 529 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 2: to quickly end the exchange. So I don't let's just 530 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 2: play this and see what happened. WHOA, that's Biden. 531 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: This this conclused the press conference. 532 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 7: Thanks everybody. 533 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll play that again. 534 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 2: So the Biden standing up there and the reporters are 535 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 2: shouting questions at him, and he suddenly his eyes bug 536 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 2: out and he puts his hands up and he goes, whoa, 537 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: and then everybody keeps shouting questions, and he looks it's 538 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 2: he's got the deer in the headlights. Look really his 539 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: eyes were, and so Karine Jean Pierre just ended the session. 540 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: So play it again. 541 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 6: This this this conclusion. 542 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: From the beginning, from the beginning. Here we go, WHOA, 543 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: that's Biden. 544 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 7: This this this conclused the press conference. Thanks everybody, Oh, 545 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 7: thanks you everybody. This concludes a press conference. Thank you, 546 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 7: thanks everybody. 547 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: They're all screaming at him and he's all confused. 548 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, is there any way that the public 549 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: can get information out of the president. I guess there 550 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 2: isn't because he gets frightened, his eyes start bugging out, 551 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 2: and then they have to hurt him away. They're afraid 552 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 2: to let him talk to reporters. They I mean past presidents. 553 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: You didn see that ever happened with Obama, certainly not Trump. 554 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: Bush's Ronald Reagan Clinton, Right, you did see that happening. 555 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: What is this they treating like he's a little kid. 556 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 2: Play the little clip of him misreferencing Kamala Harris two 557 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 2: years ago, Ani's first black vice president, President, Kamala Harris, 558 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 2: the first black vice president President, Kamala Harris President. Okay, 559 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: there you go, But hey, nothing's wrong with him, Okay, unfair, 560 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 2: unfair to say he's suffering dementia. In Illinois, listen to 561 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 2: this one. Lawmakers there have a new word to describe criminals. 562 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: They just amended the Illinois Crime Reduction Act in the House. 563 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 2: Hasn't gone to the governor yet. This was an act 564 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 2: in two thousand and nine that I guess changed whatever 565 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 2: term was being used at the time for criminals to offenders. 566 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 2: And now it's been updated. They are wellt's see, they're 567 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 2: not criminals. 568 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: They're not. 569 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 2: They're not murderers. They're not felons, they're not offenders anymore, 570 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 2: they're justice impacted individuals. Just now, are the idiots in 571 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: the media going to pick up on this, because what 572 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: I've noted noticed is if the Associated Press you have 573 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 2: no idea how new people and editors and producers respecting 574 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: Associated Press, and they put out a style book and 575 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 2: the AP has been taken over by all the hardcore progressives. 576 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 2: So you get all these euphemisms. Right, That's why instead 577 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 2: of illegal aliens, you get people people without proper documentation. 578 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: Instead of vagrants or bums, you get people experiencing homelessness. 579 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: All right, this is. 580 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 2: Where you get four and five word explanations for instead 581 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 2: of the phrase that we've used all our lives. That's 582 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 2: really quick and simple and obvious. So now offenders has 583 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: been and offenders is a ridiculous word to beginn with. 584 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 2: It's justice impacted individuals. And one Republican in Illinois State 585 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 2: Senator Terry Bryant and a hearing said, over and over again, 586 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 2: we keep changing the name of how we're referring to 587 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 2: those who've entered into criminal activity. And each time we 588 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 2: make that change, each agency has to make that on 589 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 2: every one of their documents right now in an Apartment 590 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: of Corrections. There's another one. Instead of Department of Prisons, 591 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 2: it's Department of Corrections. There's multiple changes that have been made, 592 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: and it's costing thousands and thousands of dollars to do 593 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: an aim change. Why is it necessary to make a 594 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 2: name change because they change the language in order to 595 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: confuse the issue and hide the seriousness of the issue. 596 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 2: If we went back to criminals, felons, even offenders. But 597 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 2: if you say justice impacted individuals, it makes it sound 598 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: like something has happened to the person who committed the murder. 599 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 2: He's no longer a murderer who killed someone. He's someone 600 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 2: who's impacted by justice. Use the word impacted to describe 601 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 2: when a meteor hits the earth, the meteor impacted the village, 602 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 2: or if you fire a missile or a rocket, right, 603 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 2: the damage was impacted by the meteor or by the 604 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:00,959 Speaker 2: by the rocket. 605 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: All right, we come back. 606 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk with Heather McDonald's because she's got an 607 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 2: article in California's looming crime Catastrophe. It's it's going to 608 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: allow those impacted by justice to get resentenced, even if 609 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: they've done horrible things like murder, and it was snuck 610 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 2: into the legislature and I guess many people in the 611 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 2: legislature didn't even know this had become long seriously and 612 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:42,479 Speaker 2: it all has to do with race politics. We'll explain 613 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 2: it coming up. You got to listen to this though, 614 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 2: because this is really going to have an impact. A 615 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 2: debor Mark Live the CAFI twenty for our newsroom. Hey, 616 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. 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