WEBVTT - #92 - Kurupt 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:13.440 Hey, welcome to the interview, I mean the podcast. I 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:16.439 mean yeah, there's gonna be an interview in the podcast. Welcome. 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:19.200 We got Corrupt coming on. I think I hit the 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:23.319 wrong sounded. What did I just hit? Oh yeah, I 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:25.720 just hit the wrong button. Hey man, listen, Welcome to 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:30.960 the podcast Corrupt. Young Gottie, one of the most legendary 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:36.560 lyricists in hip hop history by way of Philadelphia all 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:40.000 the Way to La Corrupt will be on the podcast 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:43.000 today and it is a doozy. It is a good one, 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:47.879 Yes it is. Before we talk to the legend Corrupt, 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:51.519 we have to show love to our partners at odd Socks. 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:56.320 Go to odd socksofficial dot com and get you some socks. Man. 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Just bootleg keV at checkout 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.760 for twenty percent off your order at odd socksofficial dot com. 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:30.720 Let's get into the interview with Corrupt Yo bout Let 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:33.600 keV Show special guests in here. Uh, this fucking fly 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:35.320 will not go away. By the way, I've been trying 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:39.280 to kill this fly for like two days. O Yo, corrupt, corrupt, 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:43.960 corrupt man, your a legend. Welcome, thank you, thank you. 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.160 You know, I gotta give you some flowers because there's 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:50.120 one album of yours that I always just rave that 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:51.960 is like one of the most slept on albums of 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:54.960 all times. Streets is a Mother Oh Wow is one 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:59.640 of my favorite albums ever overseen by Daz Dylan Drew 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:03.240 I called shots with you and Roscoe. That's an organized 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:10.760 noise man, You and Roscoe back and forth. You know, Yeah, 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:15.760 that's that, Uh, Ray, Rico and Pat when the Beat 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:20.760 Organized Noise. We went to Atlanta for that and Uh 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:25.520 I was over there at the dungeon. Rico, Ray came 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:28.560 through and then we just laced it up Sleepy Brown 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:32.720 Pat how how's how's your brother doing? Doing real good? 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:37.079 You know he just had his second baby, zay Alani. 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:41.400 I call it Kalani. You got it. You gotta put 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.000 that corrupt twist on that. But you know, kids help 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:46.280 you to grow up and become the man you're going 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:50.200 to be. And uh, that's what happened with David. You know, 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:53.880 Scodie's on his grown man now working on this music. 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.840 Still got a new group, Luxury Click. So I remember 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:58.560 when I first heard I called shots and I found 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:00.680 out that that was your brother. I was like, oh 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:06.320 my god, psychosomatic automatics, man, And I was shocked. I 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:08.440 was like this, I said, corrupt brother might be harder 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:11.679 than corrupt. Motherfucking right, I was. You know what they say, man, 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:16.440 the next generation they greater than the generation before them. 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.640 You know, that's when they're doing well. You know, otherwise 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:23.360 they will either be lower and lucky to be the same. 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:27.040 But when they really on their game right, they surpassed. 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.840 And that's what Scodie has done throughout the years. And 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:34.320 I remember when I first heard him rap twelve years old, 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:38.080 thirteen and wanted to get into cipher and I told him, man, 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.280 I kicked back, man, hold on because you know, I 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:45.320 don't want him to get embarrassed. And he rapped for 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:49.080 like thirty minutes to forty minutes. I said, oh my god, 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:51.800 the fruit does not fall far from the tree. In 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:55.760 the tree, I said, Wow, I said this boy ready, yeah, 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:59.480 oh yeah, fout out to that. It's a California album. 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:06.760 You're it's crazy, man, because you know, my favorite uh 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.480 you know, I always say that the best West Coast album, 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:13.360 probably my second or third favorite album ever is Doggy Style. Yes, sir, 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:17.520 and that's the album that really introduced you to the masses. Yes, 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:21.799 it did introduced all of us, me, Dad, Nate, dog 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:26.200 you know what I'm saying. Even even g Dove got 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:29.880 his chance to really shine. Warren g Ain't no fun. 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.799 He really shined on there, you know what I'm saying, 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:36.560 and came a mc be came a rapper. Well, I 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:41.040 feel like you have like quite possibly like the best 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.680 verse on thet on Doggy Style, you know, at least 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:46.960 like a top three verse on Doggy Style. Wow. Well, 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:49.920 thank you? Yeah, I love this guy. No, I mean, 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:51.719 I mean, listen, man, I'm fucking I love I love 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:56.440 thank you know. I'm a huge you know, dog pound Fanatic, 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:58.800 bro and and Doggie Style was an album that really 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:03.480 changed my life. But like, coming from your position as 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:07.559 an unknown artist at the time, Snoop's the hottest shit moving. 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.279 He's coming off the success of the Chronic, there's the 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:13.440 buzz of his murder trial, and there's just so much 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:17.040 energy behind that album. Give me like your mind state 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.920 when it came to getting in the studio and laying 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.960 your vocals for that album and just being around that 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:29.320 environment at the time. You know, at that time, we 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:33.320 all had something to prove, not just to the world 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.880 but to ourselves. So everybody was in a show and 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:43.240 improved mindset Musically. For the producers, you know, Doctor Dre 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:48.360 himself Dazz stepping his game up, produced records like for 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:51.680 All my Niggas and My Bitches and was one of 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:55.040 the keys to Ain't No Fun, you know what I'm saying. 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:59.520 And you know, being around Doctor Dre makes you step 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:01.440 your game. You got to show up, a shut and 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:05.200 show out or get out. That was a death row mentality. 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:08.680 So everybody was trying to prove themselves. They was trying 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:12.680 to uh get to that level, you know what I'm 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:15.880 saying that they was all trying to reach. Each one 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:18.280 of us had a goal we was trying to set 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.279 for ourselves that we set for ourselves. You know, Rage 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:27.880 rb RBX myself, Dazz Warren g production wise because he 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:31.320 was all over the chronic with ideas. So it was Daz. 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:33.840 That is a lot of the voices you hear on 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:36.719 the chronic so on, Well, that's probably the most under 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:38.760 like top two or three underrated producer of all time 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:42.000 because you know, Dads don't really splurge his He says low, 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:47.240 humble about his fly. It's not going away. Hey, he 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.400 loves us. What can I say? Hey, when you the ship, 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:53.240 you the ship flies love to be ship. I'm just 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:56.279 saying though, you know what I'm saying. But you know 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.919 it was It was great for us to learning experience. 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.000 Doug Style used all of our lives, you know. The 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:07.039 chronic changed our lives and Doggy Style created who we 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:10.120 were when Doggy Style was being recorded. Were you and 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:13.160 Dads already signed to death Row as dog Pound or 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:16.400 was that something that happened after the chronic. We wasn't signed. 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:20.760 The chronic was crazy because Sugar and Doctor Dre had 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:25.400 a crazy plan. They only had Rage and Snoopy sign 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:28.760 and all the artists on there, none of them was signed. 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:32.440 It was like, if you make it, the people like you, 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:34.120 then we might give you a deal. We're going to 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.280 give you a deal. And it was like, wow, we 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:39.400 still got to show ourselves because we were on this album. 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:43.160 Anybody could just leave. And you know, so by the 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.120 time Doggy Style came out, you guys already locked down. 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.280 We were signed. After the when the Chronic, once it 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:51.560 cracked and reviews came back on all of us, death 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:57.400 Row was like, Okay, everybody made it. What was the 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:59.480 was the difference between the creation of the Chronic and 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:02.440 being around that and just the creation of Doggy Style? 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:05.840 What was the energy difference? In your opinion being somebody 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:10.040 who was there for both, Like the Chronic, you really 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:16.600 didn't know, uh where to go. You know, Doctor Drebral 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:19.880 Critique records for us. You know, he always told me 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.440 during the Chronic, I got a record strictly for you corrupt. 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:27.800 I was like, wow, I made it for his album, 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:31.040 strictly for me. I was like, so, you know, I 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:34.240 was excited and just watching them as they're creating the 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.680 album itself. In general, one of the first records I 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:40.920 heard was a nigga with a motherfucking gun and g thing, 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.240 and so it was like bam, those was the two 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.320 and he was just creating as he went. Then one 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:48.200 day he came to me and said, here, I got 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.480 this for you, Corrup, You're gonna set this off. I 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:52.280 was like, damn, let me hear it. And you heard 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:59.360 was what what? What? When? And I said, oh my 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:03.960 He smiled at me, yeah, and that shit came on 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.080 and I was just oh my god, because this is 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:09.079 me right, and that's why I started that off. Doctor 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:13.240 dra Ham picked that for me. He made it for me. 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:17.880 RBX and Rage, you know what I mean, stranded on 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:21.880 death Row and Snoop was the superstar, so you know 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:25.760 he already had it planned. You know how he wanted 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:27.840 it to be. Who he wanted to start it off. Corrupt, 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:30.240 You're gonna start this off. This is After that, it 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.559 was lyrical, gang bang and then Bitches Ain't Shit was 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.480 the last record we made, which is basically he showed 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:38.800 us that you could take one beat, take all the 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:42.000 music off, keep two pieces of it, the drums, the baseline, 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.800 maybe one other piece, and make a whole new record. 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:48.600 They won't even know that right, they're the same. So 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:53.080 he stripped down g thing remix and that's bitches ain't shit. 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:57.240 He took everything off except for the we the key thing, 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:01.240 and then the boom boom boom and the RUMs and 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:04.120 made bitches ain't ship. And he also taught me something 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:08.240 then too, because my verse I started off, bitches ain't ship, 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:11.280 but hos and tricks lick doing these nuts and sucked 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:14.120 that I was rapping it though dog is all melody. 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:18.120 He taught me melody. And then Snoop Doc Drear heard 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.160 me saying it, and he was like, hold o, Crup 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:22.719 say that again, all right, go lay that. That's the hook, 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:26.400 just that part. Snoop add that whoop wop to it. 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:28.560 And so you know, Snoop came to me and say, Crup, 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.120 say it like this. Don't say bitches ain't ship but 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:33.600 hos and tricks don't do it like that. Do it 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:36.959 like this, bitches ain't ship, but hos and tricks lick 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.160 doing these nuts. Add that melody to a corrupt So 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:40.920 I did it like that and he changed a couple 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:43.679 of words. I had boom and that was the that's 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:45.840 the hook. Me and Snoop and I was like, wow, 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:49.040 so now I got this record here, Well I'm having fun. 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.240 I was a battle rapper, so strand on death Row 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:56.800 and lyrical gang bag. This was new. I'm like, oh, okay, 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:00.120 you adding to melody into your all of that a 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:03.760 fancy and ship and I'm like okay, boom and I 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:05.840 did it and it was like wow, you know what, 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:09.000 I'm gonna be a star. Then when it came to 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:12.520 Doggy Style, our confidence was at the moon. We already 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:15.840 knew where we were going. We already knew what doctor 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:19.240 Dre expected, what makes sug smile and those the key 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:24.440 make sure smile and you good money satisfied doctor Dre 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:27.280 and you gold. And that was the key to doll 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:29.480 because he knew how to do it like this, oh 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:31.880 add this to it, because he was the he was 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:35.080 the key, so first person to make smile a snoop 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.520 so you know, whoop wop am, And that's you know, 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:42.400 Doggie style. We was all confident, we knew where to go. 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:44.840 And that's why you could tell the difference in that. 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:48.360 Then the chronic on that one we was critiqued and 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.640 sign and we had signed. You had some cheese, yeah 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.680 you know, yeah, you guys got a little bit of 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.040 fame from the Chronic and then me and Dad created 0:11:57.080 --> 0:12:03.840 the Dog Pound and dog the grou Yeah, who's both solo? Yeah? 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:08.480 I mean, you know, your guys' group debut is another 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:10.920 West Coast classic. It's a hip hop classic. It's an 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.079 album that I feel like doesn't get enough flowers when 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:17.200 we're talking about classic albums. But you know that album. Yeah, 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:23.840 you know, I feel like after Doggy Style, Dog Food, 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:29.520 dog Father, and then I feel like, you know, there was, 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:32.040 at least from like a fans perspective, there was It 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.079 felt like like there was like some weird energy between 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:40.160 Snoop and death Row. The Tupac shit happened. But you you, 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:44.439 you know, obviously you and Daz together forever, but there 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:48.480 was that point in time where there was that separation 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.959 where you had chose to stay with Sug. There was 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:55.240 the double XL cover with you left eye was a 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:59.560 crooked eye and Sug and there was there was like 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:04.160 some animal between you and dads. Right, give me your 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.960 thought process why you stuck with Shug during that time 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:09.400 and just kind of where your head was at. I 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.560 was the first from the Dog Pound to leave death Ro. 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:15.000 Remember you're talking about because you had Andra, you left, 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:17.480 you did corruption, you launched your label. Doctor Dre was 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.200 first to leave, and from the d PG it was you. 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:22.760 I was left. I left first, snooping dazz and on 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:24.880 him was still on death roaw. So you left first, 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:26.600 and I remember, yeah, because you had we can freaking 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:29.199 in the double disc and and then but you came 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.640 back from ning my company Andra and did all of 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:36.160 that and had that spin and then uh should came home. 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:38.600 We had a good chop up, and that was really 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.080 over wrapping. I wanted to be an executive. I wanted 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:44.520 to oversee a company. That's what Andra, That's what I 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.319 did with and I was president of that company. Joe, 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:50.760 Maroon and Tyrone gave me the opportunity to actually be 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:54.080 a part of running a company and be the artist. 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:55.880 And I mean, shit, I about all. I think that 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:58.000 was three albums that you dropped on and I bought 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:01.240 all three of them, bitches with my harder money. Yeah, 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:03.200 Joe and Todd Romes want to open up that door 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:06.319 and gave me that lane to experience it. And I like, 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.960 at that point in time, I love that more than 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:13.880 I love being a artist. So when Shuld came to 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:17.680 me about being the president of death Row. You know, 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:21.160 I thought that, you know what, I'm gonna take this opportunity. 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.200 I don't even feel like rapping. I don't want to rap. 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:27.200 I wanted more or less critique. Artists build them, and 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:30.160 I want a definite check rather than because I don't 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.640 feel you know, I had no Well, your music is 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.600 a performance based income. Like you got to put music out, 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:39.600 the music has to sell. Yeah, probably we get royalties, 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:43.960 we get our publishing, but hip hop is fun. Once 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.960 the fund's gone, what you're doing, you're done, yeah, right, 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.880 because it ain't about the money, you know. So Suld 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.520 offered you something at the time that spoke more to 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:55.720 where you were at mentally at that time. Yeah, and 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:58.520 I said, you know what, I can do this because 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:03.040 my homeboys, you know, it was gonna ride with me regardless, 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.600 and in the beginning that's what it was. But it 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.760 you know, as far as a friendship, you know, it 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:14.640 wasn't such a great decision because it, you know, doing 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:20.320 that compromised my friendship with that my family, Dazz and Snoop, 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:24.320 super Fly and Nate Dog all dpgs. At the time, 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.800 I think Dad was doing this thing was so so deaf. Right, 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:30.560 it was around that time, so so deaf. It was 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:34.120 after that experience, because that's when me and Dads got 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:38.840 back together. He was excuse me, he was doing so 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.200 actually no. So so death was during the time of 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:45.800 entra mm hmmm, because Dads got off of there, you know, 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:50.000 and when del Mark got off of there, he locked 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:54.320 up with j B. I think dog was finishing with 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:58.800 no limit, and I went to Death Road to get 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:03.520 Daz off of death Row and so bring him back home. 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.600 So I did do that, and then when he got off, 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.320 I went back home. And that's when you accepted the 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:13.400 position to be the president of Death Row, right, And 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.000 you know that's crazy, that's ironic. How long did that? 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:19.320 How long did were you technically the president of the label? 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:25.000 About two years? Yeah? Two years? And then remember what 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:28.600 years those were? Well, two thousand and fives when I 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:32.320 got back with the homies and we made Cali is active, 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:35.720 which is a yeah, I mean, a moment, but so 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:39.360 it was probably what two It was basically two thousand 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:42.600 and four and two thousand and three, okay, okay, And 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.320 so that went into two thousand and two and then 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:49.240 two thousand and three and two thousand and four. Yeah, 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:52.720 because okay, so so you got with death Row after 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.960 they put out that Chronic two thousand album, right, they 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:00.960 put out that album to come back with Dre was doing. Yeah, 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:05.840 because Streets is a Mother and Doctor Dre's Chronic was 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:08.720 in two thousand one, same day. Oh, that was the 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:13.640 same day. So that was two thousand. That was two thousand, right, right, yeah, thousand, 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:15.720 that was two thousand. I think two thousand and one 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:18.240 came out in two thousand nine with Streets as a Mother, 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:22.160 So that was ninety nine. That's crazy, I'm fucking old man. 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:25.000 That was ninety nine. I think, yep, ninety nine, nineteen 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:27.439 ninety nine. Streets is the Mother dropping. The Chronic dropped 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:29.040 on the same day. So when you come in and 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:32.679 you're running death Row as the President left, Eyes on 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:36.639 the label, Crooked Eyes on the label, Crooked Ey had 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:38.960 probably been there for a while at that point. Well, 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.399 he was there with us, what was you know what 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:44.159 I'm saying. So he was there during the nineties. I 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:48.240 mean he was there during like ninety four. Wow, Crooked 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.760 Eyes started coming around, Big C Style Boy, him and 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.639 Technique to the table. I remember Technique and they created 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:58.960 the LBC Crew and Crooked Eyes alien one of the 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:03.000 greatest you know what I'm saying, my LBC crew. Crooked 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.760 Eye was a separate beast. And you can hear Crooked 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:10.320 Eye all on every record I made from Streets is 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.840 a Mother and Spacebooky. Crooked Eye is on both of 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:18.000 those records, you know what I mean. And he was 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:21.320 he wasn't signing to Death Row at that time, right, 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.840 he was just around right, and then he signed the 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:28.200 Death Row. And so yeah, when I got with Sug, 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.240 you know, Crooked Eye was there, Lisa was there, left 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:34.520 I was already on the label Crooked Eye first, and 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:38.720 then Sug did a thing with Lisa to do the 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:43.320 Nina album, and then after Nina came, got it to 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:47.479 be president oversee these projects with Sugar and all of that, 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:53.719 you know, and then from there, yep, til two thousand 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:56.120 and five. I think around then into two thousand and four, 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:59.399 two thousand and five, I'm not mistaken, you know. I 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:01.800 told Sugar that, you know what, because I talked with 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:06.359 Snoop and you know, Snoop was like, it's time to 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:12.520 come home. I was just like, Okay, Wow, you know what, 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:17.040 It's time to come home. The champ call Snoop call 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:20.159 is over. And that was really about the where the 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:24.280 friction was because you know, the homies didn't agree with 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:27.840 my choice. But when Snoop decided to talk to me, 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.800 you know, I feel right back in pocket as I should. 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:34.720 You know, that's when CALLI Is Active was created, when 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:37.320 we did Cali is Active. Yeah, what was it? Like? 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:40.200 I mean, tell me about some of the left eye 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:44.080 music that was being recorded because you know, obviously you 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:47.879 know she she passed, you know, way before her time, 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:52.320 and I'm you know, we never really got to get 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:56.800 get treated to left eye solo like I think, you know, 0:19:56.840 --> 0:19:59.159 we should have, you know, So how was how was 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:01.679 the music was recording while you were at death or 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:06.600 Death Row? Well, left I was busting, excuse me. So 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:08.520 you know that's something that she wanted to do for 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:12.600 a mighty long time, excuse me, which to show her 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:18.080 skills as an MC. You know, with THLC, it was 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:21.600 a different level of music than the gendre of music, 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:25.480 and Lisa really wanted to be an MC. She wanted 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:28.080 to show and broadcast her skills as a rapper or 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:31.320 skill as a MC. She's from Philly, so you know, 0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:33.639 she wanted to let loose some of that ill Adelf 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:36.239 madness that she had built up in her that she 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:41.960 couldn't do with TLC in the Face or whatever company 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:44.719 they was with after the Face. So it was like 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:50.240 a it was an outlet to release this this entity 0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:54.479 in her she called Nina, and so that was like 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:58.040 her alias, her alias, you know what I'm saying. And 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:00.639 she you know, that's what she gave the lame for, 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:03.600 and she accepted it. She jumped on. And you know, 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:06.640 there's a whole different Lisa. Left Eye was the music fire. 0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:12.280 She was fire. Yeah, I mean, of course, I mean, yeah, 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:15.760 there's this all these like you know albums we always 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:18.959 heard about. The music wasn't bad at all. You know, 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:23.000 it's just different for Lisa. You know, you'd be like, 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:26.159 oh wow, visually, you'll be able to see where she 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:28.800 was going, right, you know what I'm saying. You just 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:31.320 hear it. You'll be like, because you're so used to 0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:36.520 Left Eye, you probably wouldn't accept Nina unless you saw 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:39.400 visually what she was going for, what she was going for, 0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:42.919 and then and be like okay, because it's still left Eye, 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:47.680 but you know, different world. You go back with Snooping 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:51.800 and dads you do Cali as active. How was Shug's 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:55.359 feelings when it came to you leaving Death Row a 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:59.280 second time? Well, I told Sugar and I told my 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:06.240 brother draw he just got home doing fourteen years, and 0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:07.919 you know, I let both of them know. You know what, 0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:12.119 I went as far as I can go here, Crooked 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:16.320 Eyes albums out. You know, I did a solo album. 0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:20.439 Y'all can have all of that, but I'm finna go 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:23.359 back with Snoopy and the homies, you know, And it 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:26.679 was time and at that time, there was like there 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:29.320 still was a lot of animosity between Snoop and Sug. 0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:32.640 You know what I'm saying, at least at least totally Yeah, 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:34.879 so you know what I'm saying. And uh, you know, 0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:38.119 Snoop gave me that call. I talked to them. I 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:42.160 talked to my brother Draws first, get his opinion. See 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:44.920 what he thought. He said, you know, go with your feelings, 0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:46.600 go at your heart, that's what you want to do. 0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:49.119 So then I went to Sugar as a man to 0:22:49.240 --> 0:22:51.600 let him know this is what I'm finna do because 0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:55.159 he gave me that opportunity and I accepted it. You know, 0:22:55.320 --> 0:23:00.719 Sugar's always been solid with me, you know. So you know, 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.840 he was like he gave me his blessing, which I 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:07.119 thought was like, oh, must be right. You know. Sugar 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:09.199 was just like, well, you know what, if you do 0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:11.800 grew up, keep your business good. You know what I'm saying. 0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:14.119 And you know, I think that's what you should do. 0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:16.320 If that's what you want to do. You know, I'm 0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:18.800 all with you, man, you know, and keep your business 0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:21.199 up to par, you know what I'm saying. And so 0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:25.320 he didn't. He didn't react the way that you know, 0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:29.560 I would assume that era of Sugar night it wouldn't 0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:33.600 have been the nicest reaction. But he never came at 0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:37.520 me like that ever, even when I was a kid. 0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:42.160 Never was this guy that people paint the picture of. Yeah, 0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:44.480 I was gonna say, like, you were around Shug for 0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:46.920 the better part of you know, ten plus years, right, 0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:49.560 So we we hear a lot about Sugar, and then 0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:52.440 I'll talk to people who were around him or who 0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:54.560 are close with him, and they'll say, well, you know, 0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:57.720 Sug's not I'm sure that there's a sign to him. 0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:01.879 Sugar was like a father figure. I mean, he taught 0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:06.040 taught us the game showed us the game. It was 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:10.679 a lot of things he kept out, you know what 0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:14.480 I'm saying, didn't tell us about. But you know, when 0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:17.920 you're moving that fast now, you don't get to do 0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:21.520 to say everything or do everything. What he did teachers 0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:26.320 shaped our lives, gave us a career. He believed in us, 0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:31.680 invested in us time, energy, and financially, you know, and 0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:36.960 you know he was he supported us one hundred you 0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:40.479 know what I'm saying. Uh, you just hear all these 0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:42.359 stories like people were getting beat up at the studio 0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:44.119 all the time, or there was just a lot of 0:24:44.160 --> 0:24:47.360 crazy shit going on. Like you know how very many 0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:50.000 documentaries that have ever come out, there's always that side 0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:53.040 of the death throw story that we hear about us, 0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:55.720 were actually hear about the good parts, right, And there's 0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:58.360 a lot. There's two sides of every coin justice, two 0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:02.400 sides to every coin, big HOI. And you know when 0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:05.080 it comes to Shug, that's the only side that people 0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:11.359 want you to see. It's more exciting. He's the easy 0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:13.639 He's the easy guy to make a villain in the 0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:17.080 in the whole story of this whole thing, right, Like 0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:21.560 like you said, people pick and choose the credit they 0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:24.040 want to give him or not give him. But he's 0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:26.520 the easy guy to point to him. So that's all. 0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:34.400 It's all what the people want to see. Sex, money, drugs, violence, right, guns, 0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:40.680 that sells. You know, being a great person really isn't 0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:45.160 too exciting. Mm hmm. You know what I'm saying doesn't sell. 0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:49.800 It doesn't sell documentaries or v H one die right right, right, right, 0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:54.080 right right. Know what I'm saying, you nobody till somebody 0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:57.919 kills you. You so you know when when you know, 0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:00.439 you really don't get to get that side of it. 0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:04.000 You know what good things Shoulg did. I'm not saying 0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:09.000 he did no bad things or made no mistakes. I'm 0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:13.720 not saying that. You know, shougt, you know, grab somebody 0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:16.720 by the neck and pick them off their feet, right. 0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:20.320 You know, in this business, you gotta wear many hats. 0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:23.359 Should came from an environment, you know what I'm saying, 0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:27.480 from the streets, so you know he also came from 0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:32.320 another environment. He played football, and he played Actually I 0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:35.160 think him and RBX went to UNLV at the same time. 0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:36.760 By the way, shout out to RBX is one of 0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:40.120 the craziest voices ever. Indeed, that's one of the things 0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:44.280 Doctor Drey loved about RBX voice and his style and 0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:49.080 niggas said Styley bumped and being found didn't do breathe 0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:52.159 by I mean, nobody puts it together like rb The 0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:55.960 only person I heard that puts it together like RBX 0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:58.720 is the originator of style to me, and that's d 0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:04.080 Oc to the DC. Doc was all style. He's the 0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:06.239 way he worded it and put it together with the 0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:08.639 wop And one of the biggest like what is if 0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:12.879 he had never got in that accident, you know, and man, right, 0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:14.680 the big but I think that's one of the biggest 0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:18.720 of hip hop history. Oh yeah, you know, because man, 0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:22.000 you know what I'm saying, like, wow, he was so 0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:26.680 on a roll at that time, you know what I'm saying. 0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:31.679 He was about to be you know, where Snoop was 0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:34.840 and became DC was on his way there to be 0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:37.960 that guy first. And it's crazy because see that happened 0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:41.520 to Doc, which stopped him from going to that place 0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:48.760 that we see Snoopy at right now, uh iconic. And 0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:54.080 then the same thing happened with Nipsey Hustle, and Nipsey 0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:57.080 was on his way to being on that level. He 0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:01.199 was man like Snoopy. They were just his favorites. You know, 0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:04.040 Dog was a favorite. He came out. They they loved 0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:08.639 him from the door. Deep Cover gone, you know what 0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:13.359 I'm saying, which sparked everything from that point. They already 0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:15.639 had the chronic in mind, but deep Cover just flew 0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:19.119 them to the top. You know what I'm saying, already 0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:23.280 before the chronic even came out. So you know, same 0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:27.720 thing with d OC and with Nip, you know what 0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:30.240 I mean. And there's others out there that had that 0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:36.080 potential to be something special and different. 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He's 0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:54.680 the biggest as far as just like household name, Like, 0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:57.680 I don't think there's anybody who's ever been more famous 0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:02.040 than Snoop Dogg exactly period. And I say I always 0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:04.400 say this, I say the two there's no one to 0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:08.520 who's been bigger at their peak then Snoop at his peak. 0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:12.600 And fifty cent at his peak, Fifty at his peak, 0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:15.480 and Snoop at his peak, nobody's ever been bigger. Now, 0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:17.560 There's been people who have longer runs at the top, 0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:21.680 like Drag or Uh you know you could go. You know, 0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:24.000 there's there's been artists who have had longer runs at 0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:26.960 the top, but at their peaks. You're talking about though, right, 0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:29.440 because you ain't talking about in general, No, I'm about 0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:32.120 I'm talking about hip hop, gotcha, I'm talking about hip 0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:33.960 hop period. Like, I don't think anyone's ever been bigger 0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:37.040 than Fifty or Snoop at their peaks because they had 0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:39.600 so much stuff going on that just added to the intrigue. 0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:42.600 Fifty got shot nine times, Snoop is facing the murder charge. 0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:46.440 It was like, right, it was nothing nothing. I don't 0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:49.600 think anything's ever really been bigger now. Like I said, 0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:55.880 even pac Man, even Pup came out. Everything stopped. I 0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:59.520 think all of hip hop stopped. I think Snoop, I 0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:02.719 know what you but I'm telling you, do you him? 0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:05.680 Do you think Park at his peak was bigger than 0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:08.640 Snoop at his peak? All eyes on me. I think 0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:11.800 they were all equivalent. They're equal. You can't say one 0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:13.840 is bigger than the other. That's what people do. They 0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:16.560 want to say who's bigger or who there is no bigger. 0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:23.560 When you heard Doggie Style, everything stopped. For sure, you're 0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:25.520 gonna try and tell me when you heard All Eyes 0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:31.480 on Me, everything didn't stop. I think I think that, Yeah, 0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:33.120 I mean, obviously All Eyes on Me is one of 0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:36.320 the greatest hip hop albums ever. When Fifty came with 0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:42.960 his album, everything stopped, that's real. That's the peak. When 0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:50.760 you dropping, everything stops, that's the peak. So you can't 0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:56.760 say dog fifty. But I said Pac. I was saying Pac. 0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:01.680 And you know the crazy thing is when Biggs album dropped, 0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:08.920 everything stopped. Unfortunately he passed away. Yeah, that second album, 0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:11.280 and then that's that second album. The second album had 0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:15.920 already been going. Yeah, it was couldn't even enjoy that peak, right, 0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:20.840 But Park was alive during that peak. Snoopy was alive 0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:25.880 during that peak, and fifty was alive during that But 0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:31.160 they are alive and those three particular albums I must 0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:34.560 say it too, eminem you can't tell me how my 0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:39.320 Name Is dropped everything, especially especially Marsha Mathers LP when 0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:42.080 that second album dropped, the first one I'm talking about this. 0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.240 You're talking about the second one, but the first one 0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:47.760 I stopped. I think the second one, my name is 0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:52.200 stopped everything. You couldn't even relate to, what the what 0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:59.560 the fuck is this ship? Who murdering people and kill it? Stopped? 0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:03.479 The game stopped. Hi my name Is was his peak. 0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:08.920 Everything else was rise because Stan and all of that 0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:11.960 was that. When he dropped, he was at his peak. 0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:16.360 When Snoop dropped, he was at his peak. When fifty dropped, 0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:19.760 he was at his peak. That was the peak. When 0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:22.640 Pop dropped All Eyes on Me, he was at his peak. 0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:27.000 He was already selling millions with I definitely think I 0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:29.200 went to jail. Obviously, there's a few artists saying you 0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:32.560 think of like Wayne, right, Like Wayne, I think Wayne's 0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:35.160 like he had been around for so long, so it 0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:39.440 was more like a steady climb, Like Carter one came 0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:41.640 out and people realized, oh shit, little Wyne can rap. 0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:43.360 And then Carter two came out and they were like, oh, 0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:45.560 this is a this is a classic. And then his 0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:48.840 peak was Carter three and he was the biggest motherfucker 0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:50.800 in the world. But I just think as far as 0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:54.320 like just like I can't think of like an energy 0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:57.880 like fifty or Snoop at their at their peak. I 0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:01.400 just feel like you turned the TV on they you 0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:03.760 just couldn't avoid fifty or Snoop, you know what I'm saying. 0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:07.520 But in general, Snoop overall is the biggest most famous 0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:11.640 rapper ever. You worded like that, you're absolutely correct, He's 0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:14.520 the most famous million. No, but when you word that peak, 0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:18.279 when you worded it like you did about that peak, yeah, 0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:25.080 absolutely correct Snoopy and fifty, they was everywhere. Yeah, and 0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:28.040 I'm not saying like I mean obviously, and you know 0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:31.000 like you're right as well. But yeah, no, it's crazy 0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:32.600 too because I always think about but you got to 0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:36.120 put the way you describing the peak. Well, Eminem had 0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:40.040 like ten years. I think em sold more records than anyone. 0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:42.279 It's like either him or Dragon with that peak, though, 0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:47.840 my name is or how crazy? So so let me 0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:50.640 ask you this because you obviously you know we're giving 0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:55.120 flowers one of Eminem's more famous versus when he mentions 0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:58.319 you and he mentions Redman, and he mentions, right, that 0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:01.280 was until I collapse, right when they I'm not mistaken. Yeah, 0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:05.120 so you hear that, and I thought that was super 0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:07.319 dope because at the time, m's the biggest motherfucker in 0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:10.640 the world. And somehow I still feel like you're still 0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:12.960 slept on because you're corrupt. Like to me, you're like 0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:15.759 a superhero. But it was felt so good to hear 0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:19.360 it felt so good, Eminem, give you some flowers on 0:35:19.400 --> 0:35:21.839 a record amongst all those names, like how dope was that? 0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:25.600 And I was like, wow, cause you know, you really 0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:30.040 don't accept it. You know, I'm used to being the 0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:33.000 the underdog, as you would say. You know, I'm used 0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:39.160 to being you know, that guy who you know, as 0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:41.959 good as I am on the mic. Being a star 0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:45.120 is something totally different. Yes, you know what I'm saying. 0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:48.520 No matter how good you are, you could be the 0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:52.760 best with the pen, but it doesn't make you a star, 0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:58.879 Eminem Snoopy and fifty or stars, you know what I'm saying. 0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:02.560 But you are a legend. You're legend. You're legend. It's 0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:06.480 just like when Kendrick they asked him. I saw an interview, 0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:09.360 one of his first interviews and asked him his influence 0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:13.520 and he said corrupt. And the people was interviewing him 0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:18.560 he really couldn't relate, like whoa what what not? Pop, 0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:21.680 not snoop, not this or nothing. He's like, no, no, no, corrupt. 0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:26.000 You know, I learned, you know, they inspired me towards corrupt. 0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:30.319 And everybody was totally startled about it. I know I was, 0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:33.279 because you know, it's a lot of people you give 0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:37.399 influence to when they win, you'll normally hear him say 0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:43.200 that the normal names. But Kendrick was one of the first, uh, 0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:47.040 one of the first, because the first one was M. 0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:50.120 You know, when M splashed on him with the wop wop, 0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:53.759 and then Kendrick comes along with the wham wham, and 0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:56.400 I was just like, wow, you know that's enough for me. 0:36:57.520 --> 0:36:59.960 You know, those are the flowers that meant the most 0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:04.040 to me because they didn't have to do that. They 0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:06.160 spoke from the heart and how they really felt. A 0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:08.839 lot of artists don't speak from the heart and what 0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:12.879 they really feel. They speak to satisfy. So they would 0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:16.360 give you these regular names, wouldn't talk about, you know, 0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:21.919 somebody that doesn't make people say ooh, yeah, and that 0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:25.920 was the ooh and all that damn corruption in that list, 0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:29.200 and damn Kendrick gave it up for corrupt. You know, 0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:32.360 that was a shaker right there. Very appreciated and loved. 0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:37.640 You know what I'm saying, And yeah, that made me say, Wow, 0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:43.799 that's dope, and I did smile pretty big. Let's go 0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:46.200 back to streets. As of Mother, the bonus track on 0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:50.400 that is calling out names, which was another one of 0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:53.600 those songs that I was motherfucker d motherfuck am. Only 0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:57.000 X I know is exhibit or RBX extraordinary you had 0:37:57.000 --> 0:37:59.440 a bitch anyway. I know this song by heart. I 0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:01.960 love that song. Uh. DMX was like you can see 0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:04.200 I have DMX behind you here. You know, DMX is 0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:08.960 a huge he's watching. I love X, man. But take 0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:11.560 me back to that that feud between you and X. 0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:16.640 Obviously you know he passed away earlier this year. It 0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:19.799 was over your ex or what was what is that? 0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:23.319 What it was? Yeah, you know it was. Uh, I 0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:26.760 was in my feelings and I was really just upset 0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:31.840 the whole experience with this young lady and just upset 0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:36.560 period at the way I was being treated being with 0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:39.719 this young lady, you know, and just let off some 0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:44.640 steam throughout the time of being with her. Certain individuals. 0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:47.200 You know, people will pump you up if you allow 0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:51.400 them to, if you let them, and like, you know, 0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:54.640 I can say that a lot of people, you know, 0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:57.879 told me things that I took the heart that this 0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:00.400 person was saying this, and this person said that, and 0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:05.120 then this magazine, this person said that DMX was just 0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:08.920 the straw that broke the camel's back, you know what 0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:12.960 I'm saying, to where my anger was, and so then 0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:17.000 I just I just let it all go. You know, 0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:22.040 DMX is the main thing everybody concentrates on. But I 0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:25.560 don't really talk about murder inc I don't really talk 0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:33.719 about the rough riders in the hole or the firm, 0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:36.279 you know what I'm saying. And everybody else that I 0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:39.840 spoke on, you have X is the main thing they speak. 0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:43.040 You had, you had a lot of stuff, I mean 0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:46.560 in the situation, a lot of people eighty right, you 0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:48.919 know what I'm saying. So, but there was a lot 0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:51.760 of different people I was upset at and angry about 0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:56.239 things that went on or what I heard. I brought 0:39:56.280 --> 0:40:00.239 the cart before the horse, you know, and really, you know, 0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:02.520 things like this, you talk to people, man the man, 0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:06.239 you really don't voice it through the music, you know 0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:09.520 what I mean. You know, the way I was grew 0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:12.080 I grew up. You know, if you really want to 0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:14.480 smash somebody beat them up first, and then you can 0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:19.120 talk about them, you know, but don't talk about him first, 0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:22.480 you know. And I was just really angry. What was 0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:26.760 your issue with with murdering you know that? He says, 0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:29.200 She say, same thing with the Firm that he says, 0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:33.479 she say, you know, person told me this. And because 0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:35.400 when the Firm came out, obviously drag executly if you're 0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:39.360 just that album and it was something that was people 0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:43.400 highlighted in the magazine and said read this, remember those magaze. 0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:45.480 But you know what's crazy is that was before social media, 0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:48.799 so it wasn't as easy to just DM somebody and say, yo, 0:40:48.840 --> 0:40:51.360 what what did you mean? You were just whatever was 0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:53.759 in the source or vibe that was. That was the 0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:57.200 key to this record back in our day, was that 0:40:57.320 --> 0:40:59.799 was the only way to let a person know that 0:40:59.880 --> 0:41:02.600 you didn't like them or had issues in the magazine 0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:05.640 was in the records or magazine. You know what I'm saying, 0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:10.200 your music or your magazines. But nobody was really saying 0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:13.080 who they was mad at. Everybody was subliminal. There was 0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:15.360 a lot of subs yeah, you know, and that's the 0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:18.800 thing about calling out names, which made it very different 0:41:18.880 --> 0:41:23.000 because you said everything. Everything you said exactly right, and 0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:25.319 you know it was only Rarity records back in the 0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:30.200 days like that, real disc records. You know, Chris back 0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:34.880 in the days with mc shan bridge is over in 0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:39.080 South Bronx and letting it be known, you know, and 0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:41.239 h then you know, as you keep going, you see 0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:45.040 the progression ice que, no basoline, but a lot of 0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:48.160 rapper hit them up, yeah, hit them up, popped. You 0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:51.160 know what I'm saying. Before that it was all subliminal, 0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:53.680 like New York New York. Wasn't to dis New York 0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:57.240 because I don't do subliminals. I'm a real battle rapper. 0:41:57.520 --> 0:42:00.520 I'm a real MC. If I had an issue with body, 0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:02.799 you know, I'm gonna put their name in and let 0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:07.480 them know. You pinpoint them. You you and you you 0:42:07.520 --> 0:42:11.080 know what I'm saying. And so New York New York 0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:14.000 was taken out of text and you know, yeah, that 0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:16.680 song was never meant to be a slight to New 0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:19.759 York correct, not at all. And the video I think 0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:21.440 I don't eve think it was much about the song 0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:23.839 as much it was about the video that was after 0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:26.680 we got shot at mm HM. So so that so 0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:28.759 you guys got shot at and then you guys did 0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:31.480 the video the way you did the video. So the 0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:33.840 video was meant to be like a fuck you, But 0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:36.400 the song itself originally was not meant to be a 0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:39.440 fun like a fuck you know. The first scenes was 0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:42.160 in Tom Square. We wouldn't go to New York to 0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:44.759 shoot the video. I mean, we had balls, but not 0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:47.840 that much. You know what I'm saying. New York in 0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:50.480 the ninety is a wild place, as was as was 0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:54.520 La the Capitol. But New York, New York is like 0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:58.600 Los Angeles. They had the gangs, original gangs, right, you 0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:00.720 know what I'm saying out of New New York City, 0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:03.759 So you know what I'm saying, like Chicago, you know 0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:07.720 what I'm saying. You know, so we we thought actually 0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:10.760 New York would accept it. It's a Melly Mel chorus. 0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:15.359 Melley Mel in the Furious five Grandmaster Flash. You know, 0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:19.960 Melly Mel cleared it. You know what I'm saying, got paid. 0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:24.320 So we was like, Melly Mel cleared it. Oh well, dang, 0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:26.600 we finally gonna get the respect. We're gonna get New 0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:29.520 York to love. They gonna love us for this when 0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:32.400 we you know, put this one out, they gonna love us, 0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:35.000 you know what I'm saying. And when we dropped Dog Food, 0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:38.600 nobody made a fuss about New York, New York. Our 0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:42.880 first single was Let's play House, so the album was 0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:45.840 already out, nobody was making a fuss like we was 0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:49.120 this in New York, and everybody liked New York, New York. 0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:52.319 That's why it became the next video, and we said 0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:54.160 we're gonna shoot this in time. We're gonna shoot this 0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:58.040 in Times Square in New York. Oh man, we finally 0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:02.399 gonna get the love that. You know, as much as 0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:05.000 we loved New York, New York is finally gonna love us. 0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:08.000 This song is dedicated to them, and we're gonna give 0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:11.640 respected them seas corrupt you leading that way for them 0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:16.800 to love you know what I'm saying. I was like, wow, 0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:19.600 he says this is gonna be historic. So we fly 0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:23.080 out there. We flew out the low Riders and that 0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:26.440 was a big deal to us, and we invited everybody 0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:29.839 to come through and and let's all get down and 0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:33.680 you know, come be in the video and let's show 0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:37.719 them this unification. The only one that really showed up 0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:41.799 was Mony Love. You know, she showed up and gave 0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:46.520 us some love. Nobody else showed up. A couple of 0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:51.720 people though we had k K solo building. He always 0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:54.359 fucked with us though, you know, and a couple other 0:44:54.400 --> 0:44:57.759 people came and show love. But you know, so you 0:44:57.800 --> 0:45:01.479 guys had originally intended to invite a bunch of people 0:45:01.480 --> 0:45:03.000 from New York to the New York. We sent a 0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:06.880 shout out to all in New York, you know, coming 0:45:06.960 --> 0:45:10.640 through we're shooting this video dedicated to you'all type of vibe, 0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:14.480 and they really didn't feel that way. And then, uh, 0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:19.200 after we shot in Times Square, we shot and Red Hook, Brooklyn, 0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:25.400 and a couple of shells went through our trailer. Nobody 0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:31.120 got hurt, but our pride did, so you know, we 0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:34.440 stopped everything, got about it there, we got home, We 0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:38.200 was down for a bit and then we just was like, 0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:42.400 we can't go for this. That's where you came up 0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:45.840 with the new video. I think we're gonna show you this, 0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:53.240 and then the whole dynamics and direction of the video 0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:58.160 changed and that's when we did all of that right there. Yeah, 0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:00.560 that was an interesting video and an interesting time too, 0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:04.840 because then I know, you know, shots component nor legacy 0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:08.160 and ended there the l A l A l A 0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:11.239 L A which was you know it was it was. 0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:13.000 It was a wild time to be around. I'm sure 0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:15.640 be around. Talk to Nori about it. I think we 0:46:15.680 --> 0:46:22.080 was on he was on a drink Champs. Yeah, talking 0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:27.560 about that, you know, Noy was you know, he's so funny, 0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:31.680 he's hilarious, He's the best. Nooy was one of the 0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:36.000 first that I linked up with. Uh. We became very 0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:39.120 good close friends. You know. It's fortunate that I linked 0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:43.000 up with d m X before we passed away and 0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:48.440 we became friends. Actually, I think who was up in there, 0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:52.800 Dana Dan was at the airport. Me, d m X, 0:46:52.880 --> 0:46:56.680 and Dana Danes all had flights and me and DMX 0:46:56.719 --> 0:47:01.120 squashed our situation and became really good friends. Did man. 0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:03.319 You know, I talked to him whenever I see him. 0:47:03.400 --> 0:47:06.759 We was all cool and new. It was good that 0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:09.719 that happened before he passed away. Get that. Just get 0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:11.719 that out the way, you know what I'm saying. Me 0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:15.480 and nas I did a movie with Jah Rule. You 0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:18.200 know what I'm saying, Half past dead. You know, we 0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:21.640 got rid of our differences. Talk with IRV, I talk 0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:27.080 with everybody that you know that I shot at with 0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:29.680 calling out names and got rid of all of that, 0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:34.720 you know, all those issues and problems. Yeah, it's crazy 0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:37.160 too because you were super super so close to Snoop 0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:40.080 Dogg and Snoop Dogg historically, Like we look back at 0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:42.239 that time, he had a lot of people in New 0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:45.279 York that he was tight with, and from what I've heard, 0:47:45.320 --> 0:47:47.920 sugar was not didn't like that. Sugar Pot didn't like 0:47:47.960 --> 0:47:50.879 the fact that he was so cool with a bunch 0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:54.239 of New York MC's during that time. Are you still 0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:56.239 like super close with Snoop and did you have some 0:47:56.280 --> 0:47:58.200 of those same relationships Snoop had or some of those 0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:09.480 New York artists we're still on death Rod. Yeah, so 0:48:09.480 --> 0:48:11.279 that was Yeah, that was because that was before you 0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:15.920 started it. Because when did corruption come out? T ninety eight? Okay, okay, 0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:20.920 so that was right before you left. So you felt 0:48:21.000 --> 0:48:23.600 did you when that was when Tupac came home? Yeah? 0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:26.440 I was gonna say, did you feel like the division 0:48:26.520 --> 0:48:30.520 between POC and sug and Snoop, Like, did you see 0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:32.600 it like with your own eyes? Because obviously there was 0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:34.799 you know that we heard pop records that got leaked 0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:36.759 way after where he was talking about Snoop. You know 0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:38.520 what I'm saying, like, did you see that with your 0:48:38.520 --> 0:48:40.560 own eyes? Like that division, like whether you could sit 0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:42.920 where you could tell like, oh, you know Snoops can 0:48:42.960 --> 0:48:48.840 eventually end up leaving death APN is a gang? Yes, yes, 0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:55.000 self explanatory. Yes, How how weird was that that? That 0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:58.560 that time though, because you're obviously from a fans perspective, 0:48:58.560 --> 0:49:00.880 we didn't see all of the intern issues going on, 0:49:01.000 --> 0:49:05.480 right pocket is like you said, the biggest thing moving 0:49:06.840 --> 0:49:09.200 you know, two of America's most wanted is a song 0:49:09.280 --> 0:49:11.560 with Pock and Snoop on it that's going crazy. But 0:49:11.960 --> 0:49:14.359 did the beat and das did the beat? And and 0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:18.120 you know and at the time there the Snoop and 0:49:18.160 --> 0:49:20.360 Pock and sugarn't seeing I die? You know what I'm saying, Like, 0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:22.239 what was that? What was that? What was that era 0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:25.520 like of just just being around Snoop and dog pounds 0:49:25.760 --> 0:49:32.120 like this Crip? That was the era period? That's what 0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:39.160 it was, right, Crip? So at that like was there 0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:41.120 ever a point in time? Work was our friend? And 0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:44.120 when I say our, I'm speaking of the dog pound 0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:50.480 in general, Snoopy, dazz Grub. You know what I'm saying, 0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:54.600 and outlaws and thug life psyching everybody, you know what 0:49:54.640 --> 0:49:57.640 I'm saying. So they was all our friends. Now the 0:49:57.680 --> 0:50:04.160 two heads of the horses having issue, you know, so 0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:08.480 you know eventually it would have worked that out, you 0:50:08.520 --> 0:50:11.799 know what I'm saying. That's what you know friends do. 0:50:11.880 --> 0:50:15.200 And Tupac and Snoopy were real friends, you know what 0:50:15.200 --> 0:50:19.319 I'm saying. And Poc had his issue and Snoopy was 0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:23.439 you know, I mean, what's gonna happen to Snoop? Right? 0:50:24.000 --> 0:50:29.640 Nothing if people are smart? Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:34.360 And Pac didn't want a harm dog, you know what 0:50:34.440 --> 0:50:39.920 I'm saying. Tupac loved dog. He was more disappointed than anything. 0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:43.799 And you know, me and Pac are similar. Sometimes we 0:50:43.880 --> 0:50:47.440 bring the cart before the horse, you know what I'm saying. 0:50:47.480 --> 0:50:50.399 And like those records you hear, you know that was Pac. 0:50:50.480 --> 0:50:54.080 He was filled with anger and he would let it go. 0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:57.000 And those records probably were never even recorded for us 0:50:57.040 --> 0:51:00.759 to ever hear. Obviously they were never official released like 0:51:00.760 --> 0:51:06.000 they was recorded to be heard, you know. But it's 0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:09.360 just like me and DMX, you know what I'm saying. 0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:16.720 You know, we we got together and squashed our beef 0:51:17.840 --> 0:51:21.120 and we didn't even know each other. Snoop and Tupac 0:51:21.200 --> 0:51:23.919 they knew each other, they were friends, so that was yeah, 0:51:24.120 --> 0:51:26.359 you know what I'm saying. So that would eventually been 0:51:26.400 --> 0:51:29.600 taking out the water. And I doubt if Pop would 0:51:29.640 --> 0:51:34.240 have released those records about Snoopy, you know what I'm saying. 0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:39.279 But you never know what. Tupac was very spontaneous and 0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:41.560 he said what he meant. You know what I'm saying 0:51:42.040 --> 0:51:45.400 that it was Tupac, you talk to me about you know, 0:51:45.440 --> 0:51:48.799 Four Horsemen, which was originally a record that was on 0:51:49.680 --> 0:51:52.080 I forget which Cannabis album it was. I think it 0:51:52.120 --> 0:51:56.160 was two a group. We tried to do it, put 0:51:56.200 --> 0:51:59.160 it together, but our shit kept leaking. We put the 0:51:59.200 --> 0:52:02.920 group together first, came up with the whole idea, and 0:52:02.960 --> 0:52:05.239 we were about to make a reality, but records kept 0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:07.440 getting leak, kept getting leaked, so we put a pause 0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:11.200 on it. So Cannabis and ras Cast took one of 0:52:11.200 --> 0:52:14.600 the records. Each took a different record. It was like, well, 0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:16.480 fuck it, man, I'm gonna put this on my album. 0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:18.480 Since we're gonna freeze on the album, right, I'm gon'll 0:52:18.520 --> 0:52:21.080 put this on my album. That was cannabis, and I'm 0:52:21.080 --> 0:52:23.840 gonna put this on my I think priests took couples 0:52:23.880 --> 0:52:25.919 that fuck it, I don't put these on March because 0:52:25.960 --> 0:52:29.360 we planned on starting from scratch anyway. Everybody was leaking 0:52:29.360 --> 0:52:31.880 all of our shit, so that's what they did to 0:52:31.960 --> 0:52:35.680 give them pieces of the Horsemen and the experience that 0:52:35.719 --> 0:52:38.200 we was planning on coming back together to give them 0:52:38.560 --> 0:52:43.120 new records. Took us twenty years to actually get through 0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:47.560 the real the real masterpiece together, the real product. Saying, 0:52:47.600 --> 0:52:50.120 like what you guys did back then. I always look 0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:52.520 at you guys as like the original Slaughterhouse, Like you know, 0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:54.960 slaughter House was Joe Budden and Joel our Teas and 0:52:55.840 --> 0:52:58.840 Royce everybody came to there the Crooked Eye. But you 0:52:58.880 --> 0:53:01.319 guys did that first as just kind of like this 0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:04.480 supergroup of like just lyrical monsters. You know what I'm saying. 0:53:04.600 --> 0:53:07.439 That's a compliment, Thank you much. Why was why? Why? 0:53:07.480 --> 0:53:10.480 Why is now the time to come back together? Though? Like? 0:53:10.520 --> 0:53:14.040 Why why? Uh? Like what's the motivation to do for 0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:20.280 Horsemen project in twenty twenty one. We're a real group. 0:53:22.160 --> 0:53:25.920 It's not a gimmick, right, and we were just doing 0:53:25.960 --> 0:53:30.080 it just to do it. Yeah, he's a real group. 0:53:30.560 --> 0:53:36.920 Dog Pound, EPM, D RUN, DMC, Public Enemy. You know, 0:53:37.719 --> 0:53:42.120 one album, many more to come, you know what I'm saying. 0:53:42.160 --> 0:53:43.920 It took us dad long to be able to get it. 0:53:44.719 --> 0:53:48.680 People kept throwing our ship out there inside people. You know, 0:53:48.719 --> 0:53:52.319 we couldn't ship, man, they just kept coming out. Do 0:53:52.480 --> 0:53:54.279 five records, next thing, you know, four of them will 0:53:54.320 --> 0:53:57.719 get leaked. That's crazy, like oh man, And then you know, 0:53:57.760 --> 0:54:00.759 we got our own lives and careers, so then, you know, 0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:03.160 you try so much to get it there, it keeps 0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:06.880 falling back. So you know, hey, we just go and 0:54:06.920 --> 0:54:10.520 do our own things and eventually get back together when 0:54:10.520 --> 0:54:13.839 we can and try it again. And we tried about 0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:16.000 two good times the first time, and then we try 0:54:16.040 --> 0:54:19.359 the second time the same results. So this is the 0:54:19.480 --> 0:54:22.040 third time to try try and rather right three times 0:54:22.040 --> 0:54:26.600 it yar'll swell? What's the competition levels between all four 0:54:26.640 --> 0:54:28.399 of you guys, because each one of you, I mean, 0:54:29.320 --> 0:54:31.120 do you get on the record hoping to have the 0:54:31.120 --> 0:54:34.560 best verse, because everyone's killers on each one of these records. 0:54:34.560 --> 0:54:36.680 You know, I get on there and have fun, right, 0:54:37.120 --> 0:54:40.200 you know, it's it's fun, so you know, get up there. 0:54:41.040 --> 0:54:44.200 Everybody's together, or three of us together, or even if 0:54:44.200 --> 0:54:47.840 it's two and you just spit. You know what I'm saying. 0:54:48.520 --> 0:54:52.120 The first the first verse tells you everything. I don't 0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:54.319 think we came up with hooks first. I think we 0:54:54.400 --> 0:54:58.759 came up the verses first. Right, bam, what's that first 0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:02.960 one laid first? The next one comes, the hook comes. Oh, 0:55:03.040 --> 0:55:04.799 let's get that to such and such, such and such, 0:55:04.920 --> 0:55:07.560 or if we're all there, it just falls in line. 0:55:08.080 --> 0:55:09.600 You know, we just have fun. We just get on 0:55:09.640 --> 0:55:12.879 the mic. Our songs is similar to ciphers. They all 0:55:12.920 --> 0:55:15.640 start off as ciphers to be playing, and then everybody's 0:55:15.680 --> 0:55:20.439 just get the busting like a cipher and then yeah, 0:55:21.280 --> 0:55:24.640 something catching crash, which is exactly what fans would want 0:55:24.680 --> 0:55:28.080 to hear from you guys. Some bars. That's all we did. 0:55:28.120 --> 0:55:30.080 And you know, and that was the key to Horsemen. 0:55:30.680 --> 0:55:34.600 You know, we wasn't thinking about radio records or thank god, 0:55:34.760 --> 0:55:37.919 I wouldn't want that from from people to people like yeah, 0:55:37.960 --> 0:55:39.680 you know what I'm saying. We gave them the mic. 0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:42.800 That's what the Horseman is about, pure and the delta 0:55:43.000 --> 0:55:46.640 ated mic, you know what I'm saying. And so you know, 0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:49.840 we was able to still save a couple from the 0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:53.440 past people ain't getting. We took a couple of records 0:55:53.480 --> 0:55:56.759 that stood out from the past that we that was 0:55:56.800 --> 0:55:59.760 placed out and then just some new ones and added 0:55:59.800 --> 0:56:05.000 on ras and may basically forefront of getting it all 0:56:05.040 --> 0:56:09.760 together and putting it all together. They did great. Okay, 0:56:09.880 --> 0:56:14.400 so that so go support the full Horseman ship. Oh yeah, 0:56:14.960 --> 0:56:18.720 is there any talks of doing another dot pound album? 0:56:19.360 --> 0:56:25.520 We dropping August August thirteenth, So August thirteenth, the thirt 0:56:26.760 --> 0:56:29.760 so that's coming me and dads yep. And the first 0:56:29.800 --> 0:56:32.560 single is Nice and Slow. We released some from the album, 0:56:32.600 --> 0:56:36.600 I think two of them. We gave Tom to lighten 0:56:36.719 --> 0:56:40.440 up their little muskets and uh which you know, bottom 0:56:40.480 --> 0:56:45.839 bitch and we rolling. And then we just shot our 0:56:45.880 --> 0:56:50.319 first single and second official singles. The first one is 0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:54.399 Nice and Slow with me, Dad's and Snoopy. Second one 0:56:54.520 --> 0:56:59.480 is used to you know me, dads and Eric Bellinger 0:57:00.040 --> 0:57:03.160 Aaric belder Man, Yeah, my guy. Uh. And then the 0:57:03.200 --> 0:57:06.319 other thing is you know, Dre has been in the 0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:10.600 studio working on the Detox and thirteen million iterations of 0:57:10.640 --> 0:57:13.440 the Detox for the last hour. Doctor Dre is a stickler. 0:57:13.680 --> 0:57:15.600 How many how many, like have you heard any of 0:57:15.600 --> 0:57:17.560 that music? And were you asked to be on any 0:57:17.600 --> 0:57:19.920 of the records that we probably will never end up hearing. 0:57:20.000 --> 0:57:22.680 But like, were you ever at a at all point 0:57:22.760 --> 0:57:28.200 a part of that creative process since day one? Since 0:57:28.280 --> 0:57:33.160 day one? How great is the music? Because I'm sure 0:57:33.160 --> 0:57:35.440 whatever you heard will probably never even end up hearing. 0:57:35.480 --> 0:57:37.680 But like, I mean, I hope I'm wrong. I heard 0:57:37.720 --> 0:57:41.919 three or four detoxes. You know. It's like, but doctor Dre, 0:57:43.680 --> 0:57:48.840 you know, he's he's a perfectionist. That's why all his 0:57:48.920 --> 0:57:52.360 records are just different. Every time they hit a peak, 0:57:53.120 --> 0:57:58.400 they go somewhere with something different. Doctor Dre. It's a perfectionist, 0:57:58.480 --> 0:58:01.680 you know, he's you know, you wait and you wait, 0:58:01.800 --> 0:58:04.760 but when you get it, it's worth it. Oh boy 0:58:04.960 --> 0:58:07.600 is it? You know what I'm saying. And so you 0:58:07.640 --> 0:58:12.160 know with doctor Dre, I mean, shit, man, he got 0:58:12.280 --> 0:58:17.800 so much in that bolt you know, classics, but you know, 0:58:17.920 --> 0:58:20.920 doctor Dre, it's something he's looking for and when he 0:58:21.000 --> 0:58:23.760 finds it, I just hope. I just hope we like, 0:58:23.760 --> 0:58:27.560 like we get an album where we hear you and 0:58:27.760 --> 0:58:31.640 Snoop and Dazz and Exhibit and you know, Dre have 0:58:31.880 --> 0:58:37.360 so many that he has created so many like a 0:58:37.360 --> 0:58:41.840 coup of stars and crowman artists that people want to 0:58:42.000 --> 0:58:45.160 hear like that. You know, I think it's kind of 0:58:45.240 --> 0:58:47.640 difficult by the way he did well. He did a 0:58:47.640 --> 0:58:52.280 great job putting the Compton album together. That album doesn't 0:58:52.280 --> 0:58:54.080 get talked about enough. That was a great body of work. 0:58:54.520 --> 0:58:56.480 But I just like, I'm just always like man, like 0:58:56.560 --> 0:59:01.520 you know, I remember before that album, the last Chronic 0:59:01.600 --> 0:59:06.520 album he put out the Aftermath after Yeah, the Aftermath compilation. 0:59:06.680 --> 0:59:10.600 We've been there, done that, and then he dropped the Chronic. 0:59:12.160 --> 0:59:16.640 This time he dropped Compton, which that's fair, so nice comparison. 0:59:16.920 --> 0:59:20.160 So you know what's gonna happened. Okay, well we'll be 0:59:20.200 --> 0:59:23.680 waiting and let's just look at what he has to 0:59:23.760 --> 0:59:27.160 bring to the table, and then you'll understand how difficult 0:59:27.240 --> 0:59:31.200 it is because the album has to have everybody on it. 0:59:32.320 --> 0:59:34.560 This has to have those three, it has to have 0:59:34.680 --> 0:59:38.120 Kendrick Snoop, It's got to have you. It's gotta yeah, no, no, 0:59:38.240 --> 0:59:42.640 for sure. Rage you know, that's the type of place 0:59:42.680 --> 0:59:46.560 doctor Drake's going where I can fit in. Its just 0:59:47.160 --> 0:59:50.360 all of it a big gumbo. What I'm saying well 0:59:50.360 --> 0:59:51.960 that's what he did with two thousand and one. Man, 0:59:52.080 --> 0:59:55.840 it was it was like a perfect you know even. 0:59:56.120 --> 0:59:59.280 I mean when I talked to fifty, I was like, yo, fifty, like, 0:59:59.360 --> 1:00:02.000 why don't you Am and Dre just get into the 1:00:02.000 --> 1:00:04.120 studio and make an album, Like that's what the fans want. 1:00:04.120 --> 1:00:05.880 Why is it so hard to just give people what 1:00:05.920 --> 1:00:13.120 they want? But but but he gets in the studio, 1:00:13.320 --> 1:00:14.920 and then there's M and M who's the you know, 1:00:14.960 --> 1:00:17.520 and then there's fifties executive producing all these TV shows. 1:00:17.560 --> 1:00:19.800 Sometimes it's not you know, just being a hip hop fan, 1:00:19.920 --> 1:00:21.520 you thinks ship's a lot of years, and it really is. 1:00:21.560 --> 1:00:24.520 You know what I'm saying. First thing is how do 1:00:24.640 --> 1:00:28.680 you get Doctor Dre in the studio? Doctor Dre? Get 1:00:28.720 --> 1:00:31.400 you in the studio, you dude, that's the key. And 1:00:31.440 --> 1:00:34.560 as soon as Doctor Dre you know, shoots out that 1:00:34.720 --> 1:00:40.320 bat signal, we all gonna come immediately. He's ready him 1:00:41.360 --> 1:00:52.160 Snoopy Gotti, dass rage rb xom boom fifty yep, immediately game. 1:00:53.800 --> 1:00:56.880 You know what I'm saying, Doctor Dre has such an arsenal. 1:00:58.280 --> 1:01:02.040 His tree is crazy stupid and everybody would be right there. 1:01:02.120 --> 1:01:06.840 Kendrick yep, well listen man, correct, I appreciate the sit down. Yes, sir, 1:01:06.880 --> 1:01:11.520 you're a legend. I mean, you are the man. When 1:01:11.560 --> 1:01:12.880 I first moved to l A, I ran into you 1:01:12.920 --> 1:01:15.640 at Hooters across the street from Staples Center, and I 1:01:15.680 --> 1:01:17.640 was like, this is a good day I was doing. 1:01:19.240 --> 1:01:22.680 That was my my, my, my years of when I 1:01:22.800 --> 1:01:26.400 was indulging in some good old fashioned patron Yes, you 1:01:26.440 --> 1:01:32.360 were drunk for sure. I had to leave all that corrupt. 1:01:32.400 --> 1:01:36.320 I lave you to death. Kid, Thanks for having just