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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to the interview, I mean the podcast. I

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Speaker 1: the podcast Corrupt. Young Gottie, one of the most legendary

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Speaker 1: Let's get into the interview with Corrupt Yo bout Let

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Speaker 1: keV Show special guests in here. Uh, this fucking fly

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Speaker 1: will not go away. By the way, I've been trying

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Speaker 1: to kill this fly for like two days. O Yo, corrupt, corrupt,

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Speaker 1: corrupt man, your a legend. Welcome, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: You know, I gotta give you some flowers because there's

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Speaker 1: one album of yours that I always just rave that

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Speaker 1: is like one of the most slept on albums of

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Speaker 1: all times. Streets is a Mother Oh Wow is one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite albums ever overseen by Daz Dylan Drew

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Speaker 1: I called shots with you and Roscoe. That's an organized

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Speaker 1: noise man, You and Roscoe back and forth. You know, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that, Uh, Ray, Rico and Pat when the Beat

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Speaker 1: Organized Noise. We went to Atlanta for that and Uh

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Speaker 1: I was over there at the dungeon. Rico, Ray came

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Speaker 1: through and then we just laced it up Sleepy Brown

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Speaker 1: Pat how how's how's your brother doing? Doing real good?

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Speaker 1: You know he just had his second baby, zay Alani.

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Speaker 1: I call it Kalani. You got it. You gotta put

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Speaker 1: that corrupt twist on that. But you know, kids help

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Speaker 1: you to grow up and become the man you're going

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Speaker 1: to be. And uh, that's what happened with David. You know,

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Speaker 1: Scodie's on his grown man now working on this music.

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Speaker 1: Still got a new group, Luxury Click. So I remember

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Speaker 1: when I first heard I called shots and I found

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Speaker 1: my god, psychosomatic automatics, man, And I was shocked. I

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Speaker 1: was like this, I said, corrupt brother might be harder

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Speaker 1: than corrupt. Motherfucking right, I was. You know what they say, man,

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Speaker 1: the next generation they greater than the generation before them.

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Speaker 1: But when they really on their game right, they surpassed.

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Speaker 1: And that's what Scodie has done throughout the years. And

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Speaker 1: I remember when I first heard him rap twelve years old,

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Speaker 1: thirteen and wanted to get into cipher and I told him, man,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, fout out to that. It's a California album.

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Speaker 1: probably my second or third favorite album ever is Doggy Style. Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: because you know, Dads don't really splurge his He says low,

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Speaker 1: and lyrical gang bag. This was new. I'm like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: Doggy Style, our confidence was at the moon. We already

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Speaker 1: Dre expected, what makes sug smile and those the key

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Speaker 1: the key, so first person to make smile a snoop

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Speaker 1: so you know, whoop wop am, And that's you know,

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Speaker 1: the Dog Pound and dog the grou Yeah, who's both solo? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: you know he was he supported us one hundred you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Uh, you just hear all these

422
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Speaker 1: stories like people were getting beat up at the studio

423
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Speaker 1: all the time, or there was just a lot of

424
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Speaker 1: crazy shit going on. Like you know how very many

425
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Speaker 1: documentaries that have ever come out, there's always that side

426
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Speaker 1: of the death throw story that we hear about us,

427
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Speaker 1: were actually hear about the good parts, right, And there's

428
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Speaker 1: a lot. There's two sides of every coin justice, two

429
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Speaker 1: sides to every coin, big HOI. And you know when

430
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: it comes to Shug, that's the only side that people

431
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Speaker 1: want you to see. It's more exciting. He's the easy

432
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Speaker 1: He's the easy guy to make a villain in the

433
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Speaker 1: in the whole story of this whole thing, right, Like

434
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Speaker 1: like you said, people pick and choose the credit they

435
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Speaker 1: want to give him or not give him. But he's

436
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Speaker 1: the easy guy to point to him. So that's all.

437
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Speaker 1: It's all what the people want to see. Sex, money, drugs, violence, right, guns,

438
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Speaker 1: that sells. You know, being a great person really isn't

439
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Speaker 1: too exciting. Mm hmm. You know what I'm saying doesn't sell.

440
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Speaker 1: It doesn't sell documentaries or v H one die right right, right, right,

441
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: right right. Know what I'm saying, you nobody till somebody

442
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Speaker 1: kills you. You so you know when when you know,

443
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 1: you really don't get to get that side of it.

444
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: You know what good things Shoulg did. I'm not saying

445
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: he did no bad things or made no mistakes. I'm

446
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: not saying that. You know, shougt, you know, grab somebody

447
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448
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: You know, in this business, you gotta wear many hats.

449
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: Should came from an environment, you know what I'm saying,

450
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: from the streets, so you know he also came from

451
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: another environment. He played football, and he played Actually I

452
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Speaker 1: think him and RBX went to UNLV at the same time.

453
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Speaker 1: By the way, shout out to RBX is one of

454
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455
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456
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457
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Speaker 1: by I mean, nobody puts it together like rb The

458
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Speaker 1: only person I heard that puts it together like RBX

459
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Speaker 1: is the originator of style to me, and that's d

460
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Speaker 1: Oc to the DC. Doc was all style. He's the

461
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,239
Speaker 1: way he worded it and put it together with the

462
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: wop And one of the biggest like what is if

463
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: he had never got in that accident, you know, and man, right,

464
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: the big but I think that's one of the biggest

465
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: of hip hop history. Oh yeah, you know, because man,

466
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like, wow, he was so

467
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: on a roll at that time, you know what I'm saying.

468
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: He was about to be you know, where Snoop was

469
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: and became DC was on his way there to be

470
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: that guy first. And it's crazy because see that happened

471
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: to Doc, which stopped him from going to that place

472
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: that we see Snoopy at right now, uh iconic. And

473
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: then the same thing happened with Nipsey Hustle, and Nipsey

474
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: was on his way to being on that level. He

475
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 1: was man like Snoopy. They were just his favorites. You know,

476
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: Dog was a favorite. He came out. They they loved

477
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,639
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478
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: I'm saying, which sparked everything from that point. They already

479
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: had the chronic in mind, but deep Cover just flew

480
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,119
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481
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,280
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482
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,720
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483
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,240
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Speaker 1: There's something about Snoop. I always say this, Snoop's the

502
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: most famous rapper ever. Like when we're talking about like

503
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: the biggest ever, I'm talking about household name. I'm talking

504
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: about your grandma knows who Snoop Dogg is, Your great

505
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: grandma knows who Snoop dog is, your dad knows who ever, Like,

506
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: Snoop is the most famous rapper we've ever had. He's

507
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: the biggest as far as just like household name, Like,

508
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anybody who's ever been more famous

509
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: than Snoop Dogg exactly period. And I say I always

510
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: say this, I say the two there's no one to

511
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: who's been bigger at their peak then Snoop at his peak.

512
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: And fifty cent at his peak, Fifty at his peak,

513
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: and Snoop at his peak, nobody's ever been bigger. Now,

514
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: There's been people who have longer runs at the top,

515
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: like Drag or Uh you know you could go. You know,

516
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: there's there's been artists who have had longer runs at

517
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: the top, but at their peaks. You're talking about though, right,

518
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: because you ain't talking about in general, No, I'm about

519
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: I'm talking about hip hop, gotcha, I'm talking about hip

520
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: hop period. Like, I don't think anyone's ever been bigger

521
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: than Fifty or Snoop at their peaks because they had

522
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: so much stuff going on that just added to the intrigue.

523
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: Fifty got shot nine times, Snoop is facing the murder charge.

524
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: It was like, right, it was nothing nothing. I don't

525
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: think anything's ever really been bigger now. Like I said,

526
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: even pac Man, even Pup came out. Everything stopped. I

527
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: think all of hip hop stopped. I think Snoop, I

528
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 1: know what you but I'm telling you, do you him?

529
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: Do you think Park at his peak was bigger than

530
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: Snoop at his peak? All eyes on me. I think

531
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: they were all equivalent. They're equal. You can't say one

532
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: is bigger than the other. That's what people do. They

533
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: want to say who's bigger or who there is no bigger.

534
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: When you heard Doggie Style, everything stopped. For sure, you're

535
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: gonna try and tell me when you heard All Eyes

536
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: on Me, everything didn't stop. I think I think that, Yeah,

537
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously All Eyes on Me is one of

538
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: the greatest hip hop albums ever. When Fifty came with

539
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: his album, everything stopped, that's real. That's the peak. When

540
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: you dropping, everything stops, that's the peak. So you can't

541
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: say dog fifty. But I said Pac. I was saying Pac.

542
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: And you know the crazy thing is when Biggs album dropped,

543
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: everything stopped. Unfortunately he passed away. Yeah, that second album,

544
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: and then that's that second album. The second album had

545
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: already been going. Yeah, it was couldn't even enjoy that peak, right,

546
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: But Park was alive during that peak. Snoopy was alive

547
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: during that peak, and fifty was alive during that But

548
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: they are alive and those three particular albums I must

549
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: say it too, eminem you can't tell me how my

550
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: Name Is dropped everything, especially especially Marsha Mathers LP when

551
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: that second album dropped, the first one I'm talking about this.

552
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: You're talking about the second one, but the first one

553
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: I stopped. I think the second one, my name is

554
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: stopped everything. You couldn't even relate to, what the what

555
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: the fuck is this ship? Who murdering people and kill it? Stopped?

556
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,479
Speaker 1: The game stopped. Hi my name Is was his peak.

557
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: Everything else was rise because Stan and all of that

558
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: was that. When he dropped, he was at his peak.

559
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: When Snoop dropped, he was at his peak. When fifty dropped,

560
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: he was at his peak. That was the peak. When

561
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: Pop dropped All Eyes on Me, he was at his peak.

562
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: He was already selling millions with I definitely think I

563
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: went to jail. Obviously, there's a few artists saying you

564
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: think of like Wayne, right, Like Wayne, I think Wayne's

565
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: like he had been around for so long, so it

566
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: was more like a steady climb, Like Carter one came

567
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: out and people realized, oh shit, little Wyne can rap.

568
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: And then Carter two came out and they were like, oh,

569
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: this is a this is a classic. And then his

570
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: peak was Carter three and he was the biggest motherfucker

571
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: in the world. But I just think as far as

572
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: like just like I can't think of like an energy

573
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: like fifty or Snoop at their at their peak. I

574
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: just feel like you turned the TV on they you

575
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: just couldn't avoid fifty or Snoop, you know what I'm saying.

576
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: But in general, Snoop overall is the biggest most famous

577
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: rapper ever. You worded like that, you're absolutely correct, He's

578
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: the most famous million. No, but when you word that peak,

579
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: when you worded it like you did about that peak, yeah,

580
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: absolutely correct Snoopy and fifty, they was everywhere. Yeah, and

581
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying like I mean obviously, and you know

582
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: like you're right as well. But yeah, no, it's crazy

583
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: too because I always think about but you got to

584
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: put the way you describing the peak. Well, Eminem had

585
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: like ten years. I think em sold more records than anyone.

586
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: It's like either him or Dragon with that peak, though,

587
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: my name is or how crazy? So so let me

588
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: ask you this because you obviously you know we're giving

589
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: flowers one of Eminem's more famous versus when he mentions

590
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: you and he mentions Redman, and he mentions, right, that

591
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 1: was until I collapse, right when they I'm not mistaken. Yeah,

592
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: so you hear that, and I thought that was super

593
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: dope because at the time, m's the biggest motherfucker in

594
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: the world. And somehow I still feel like you're still

595
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: slept on because you're corrupt. Like to me, you're like

596
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: a superhero. But it was felt so good to hear

597
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: it felt so good, Eminem, give you some flowers on

598
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: a record amongst all those names, like how dope was that?

599
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, cause you know, you really

600
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: don't accept it. You know, I'm used to being the

601
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: the underdog, as you would say. You know, I'm used

602
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: to being you know, that guy who you know, as

603
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,959
Speaker 1: good as I am on the mic. Being a star

604
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: is something totally different. Yes, you know what I'm saying.

605
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: No matter how good you are, you could be the

606
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 1: best with the pen, but it doesn't make you a star,

607
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 1: Eminem Snoopy and fifty or stars, you know what I'm saying.

608
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: But you are a legend. You're legend. You're legend. It's

609
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: just like when Kendrick they asked him. I saw an interview,

610
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: one of his first interviews and asked him his influence

611
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: and he said corrupt. And the people was interviewing him

612
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: he really couldn't relate, like whoa what what not? Pop,

613
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: not snoop, not this or nothing. He's like, no, no, no, corrupt.

614
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: You know, I learned, you know, they inspired me towards corrupt.

615
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: And everybody was totally startled about it. I know I was,

616
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: because you know, it's a lot of people you give

617
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: influence to when they win, you'll normally hear him say

618
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: that the normal names. But Kendrick was one of the first, uh,

619
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: one of the first, because the first one was M.

620
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: You know, when M splashed on him with the wop wop,

621
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: and then Kendrick comes along with the wham wham, and

622
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: I was just like, wow, you know that's enough for me.

623
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: You know, those are the flowers that meant the most

624
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: to me because they didn't have to do that. They

625
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: spoke from the heart and how they really felt. A

626
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: lot of artists don't speak from the heart and what

627
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 1: they really feel. They speak to satisfy. So they would

628
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: give you these regular names, wouldn't talk about, you know,

629
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 1: somebody that doesn't make people say ooh, yeah, and that

630
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: was the ooh and all that damn corruption in that list,

631
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: and damn Kendrick gave it up for corrupt. You know,

632
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: that was a shaker right there. Very appreciated and loved.

633
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And yeah, that made me say, Wow,

634
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: that's dope, and I did smile pretty big. Let's go

635
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: back to streets. As of Mother, the bonus track on

636
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: that is calling out names, which was another one of

637
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: those songs that I was motherfucker d motherfuck am. Only

638
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: X I know is exhibit or RBX extraordinary you had

639
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: a bitch anyway. I know this song by heart. I

640
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: love that song. Uh. DMX was like you can see

641
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: I have DMX behind you here. You know, DMX is

642
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: a huge he's watching. I love X, man. But take

643
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: me back to that that feud between you and X.

644
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: Obviously you know he passed away earlier this year. It

645
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: was over your ex or what was what is that?

646
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: What it was? Yeah, you know it was. Uh, I

647
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 1: was in my feelings and I was really just upset

648
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: the whole experience with this young lady and just upset

649
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: period at the way I was being treated being with

650
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: this young lady, you know, and just let off some

651
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: steam throughout the time of being with her. Certain individuals.

652
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: You know, people will pump you up if you allow

653
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: them to, if you let them, and like, you know,

654
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: I can say that a lot of people, you know,

655
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 1: told me things that I took the heart that this

656
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: person was saying this, and this person said that, and

657
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: then this magazine, this person said that DMX was just

658
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: the straw that broke the camel's back, you know what

659
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying, to where my anger was, and so then

660
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: I just I just let it all go. You know,

661
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: DMX is the main thing everybody concentrates on. But I

662
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: don't really talk about murder inc I don't really talk

663
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: about the rough riders in the hole or the firm,

664
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And everybody else that I

665
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: spoke on, you have X is the main thing they speak.

666
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: You had, you had a lot of stuff, I mean

667
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: in the situation, a lot of people eighty right, you

668
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So, but there was a lot

669
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 1: of different people I was upset at and angry about

670
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: things that went on or what I heard. I brought

671
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: the cart before the horse, you know, and really, you know,

672
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: things like this, you talk to people, man the man,

673
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: you really don't voice it through the music, you know

674
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: what I mean. You know, the way I was grew

675
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: I grew up. You know, if you really want to

676
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: smash somebody beat them up first, and then you can

677
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: talk about them, you know, but don't talk about him first,

678
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: you know. And I was just really angry. What was

679
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 1: your issue with with murdering you know that? He says,

680
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: She say, same thing with the Firm that he says,

681
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,479
Speaker 1: she say, you know, person told me this. And because

682
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: when the Firm came out, obviously drag executly if you're

683
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: just that album and it was something that was people

684
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: highlighted in the magazine and said read this, remember those magaze.

685
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: But you know what's crazy is that was before social media,

686
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: so it wasn't as easy to just DM somebody and say, yo,

687
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: what what did you mean? You were just whatever was

688
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: in the source or vibe that was. That was the

689
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: key to this record back in our day, was that

690
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: was the only way to let a person know that

691
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: you didn't like them or had issues in the magazine

692
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: was in the records or magazine. You know what I'm saying,

693
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: your music or your magazines. But nobody was really saying

694
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: who they was mad at. Everybody was subliminal. There was

695
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: a lot of subs yeah, you know, and that's the

696
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: thing about calling out names, which made it very different

697
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: because you said everything. Everything you said exactly right, and

698
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: you know it was only Rarity records back in the

699
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: days like that, real disc records. You know, Chris back

700
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: in the days with mc shan bridge is over in

701
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: South Bronx and letting it be known, you know, and

702
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: h then you know, as you keep going, you see

703
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: the progression ice que, no basoline, but a lot of

704
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: rapper hit them up, yeah, hit them up, popped. You

705
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Before that it was all subliminal,

706
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: like New York New York. Wasn't to dis New York

707
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 1: because I don't do subliminals. I'm a real battle rapper.

708
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm a real MC. If I had an issue with body,

709
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna put their name in and let

710
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: them know. You pinpoint them. You you and you you

711
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And so New York New York

712
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: was taken out of text and you know, yeah, that

713
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: song was never meant to be a slight to New

714
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: York correct, not at all. And the video I think

715
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: I don't eve think it was much about the song

716
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: as much it was about the video that was after

717
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: we got shot at mm HM. So so that so

718
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: you guys got shot at and then you guys did

719
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: the video the way you did the video. So the

720
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: video was meant to be like a fuck you, But

721
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: the song itself originally was not meant to be a

722
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: fun like a fuck you know. The first scenes was

723
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: in Tom Square. We wouldn't go to New York to

724
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: shoot the video. I mean, we had balls, but not

725
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: that much. You know what I'm saying. New York in

726
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: the ninety is a wild place, as was as was

727
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: La the Capitol. But New York, New York is like

728
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. They had the gangs, original gangs, right, you

729
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying out of New New York City,

730
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying, like Chicago, you know

731
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know, so we we thought actually

732
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 1: New York would accept it. It's a Melly Mel chorus.

733
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: Melley Mel in the Furious five Grandmaster Flash. You know,

734
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: Melly Mel cleared it. You know what I'm saying, got paid.

735
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: So we was like, Melly Mel cleared it. Oh well, dang,

736
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: we finally gonna get the respect. We're gonna get New

737
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: York to love. They gonna love us for this when

738
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: we you know, put this one out, they gonna love us,

739
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And when we dropped Dog Food,

740
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: nobody made a fuss about New York, New York. Our

741
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: first single was Let's play House, so the album was

742
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: already out, nobody was making a fuss like we was

743
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: this in New York, and everybody liked New York, New York.

744
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: That's why it became the next video, and we said

745
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna shoot this in time. We're gonna shoot this

746
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: in Times Square in New York. Oh man, we finally

747
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 1: gonna get the love that. You know, as much as

748
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: we loved New York, New York is finally gonna love us.

749
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: This song is dedicated to them, and we're gonna give

750
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: respected them seas corrupt you leading that way for them

751
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 1: to love you know what I'm saying. I was like, wow,

752
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: he says this is gonna be historic. So we fly

753
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: out there. We flew out the low Riders and that

754
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: was a big deal to us, and we invited everybody

755
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: to come through and and let's all get down and

756
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: you know, come be in the video and let's show

757
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: them this unification. The only one that really showed up

758
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: was Mony Love. You know, she showed up and gave

759
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: us some love. Nobody else showed up. A couple of

760
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 1: people though we had k K solo building. He always

761
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: fucked with us though, you know, and a couple other

762
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: people came and show love. But you know, so you

763
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,479
Speaker 1: guys had originally intended to invite a bunch of people

764
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: from New York to the New York. We sent a

765
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: shout out to all in New York, you know, coming

766
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: through we're shooting this video dedicated to you'all type of vibe,

767
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: and they really didn't feel that way. And then, uh,

768
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: after we shot in Times Square, we shot and Red Hook, Brooklyn,

769
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: and a couple of shells went through our trailer. Nobody

770
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: got hurt, but our pride did, so you know, we

771
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: stopped everything, got about it there, we got home, We

772
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: was down for a bit and then we just was like,

773
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: we can't go for this. That's where you came up

774
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: with the new video. I think we're gonna show you this,

775
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 1: and then the whole dynamics and direction of the video

776
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: changed and that's when we did all of that right there. Yeah,

777
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: that was an interesting video and an interesting time too,

778
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: because then I know, you know, shots component nor legacy

779
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: and ended there the l A l A l A

780
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: L A which was you know it was it was.

781
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: It was a wild time to be around. I'm sure

782
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: be around. Talk to Nori about it. I think we

783
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: was on he was on a drink Champs. Yeah, talking

784
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: about that, you know, Noy was you know, he's so funny,

785
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: he's hilarious, He's the best. Nooy was one of the

786
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: first that I linked up with. Uh. We became very

787
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: good close friends. You know. It's fortunate that I linked

788
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: up with d m X before we passed away and

789
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: we became friends. Actually, I think who was up in there,

790
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: Dana Dan was at the airport. Me, d m X,

791
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: and Dana Danes all had flights and me and DMX

792
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: squashed our situation and became really good friends. Did man.

793
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: You know, I talked to him whenever I see him.

794
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: We was all cool and new. It was good that

795
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: that happened before he passed away. Get that. Just get

796
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: that out the way, you know what I'm saying. Me

797
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: and nas I did a movie with Jah Rule. You

798
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Half past dead. You know, we

799
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: got rid of our differences. Talk with IRV, I talk

800
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: with everybody that you know that I shot at with

801
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: calling out names and got rid of all of that,

802
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 1: you know, all those issues and problems. Yeah, it's crazy

803
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: too because you were super super so close to Snoop

804
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: Dogg and Snoop Dogg historically, Like we look back at

805
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: that time, he had a lot of people in New

806
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: York that he was tight with, and from what I've heard,

807
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: sugar was not didn't like that. Sugar Pot didn't like

808
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 1: the fact that he was so cool with a bunch

809
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: of New York MC's during that time. Are you still

810
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: like super close with Snoop and did you have some

811
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: of those same relationships Snoop had or some of those

812
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: New York artists we're still on death Rod. Yeah, so

813
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: that was Yeah, that was because that was before you

814
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: started it. Because when did corruption come out? T ninety eight? Okay, okay,

815
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: so that was right before you left. So you felt

816
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: did you when that was when Tupac came home? Yeah?

817
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, did you feel like the division

818
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: between POC and sug and Snoop, Like, did you see

819
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: it like with your own eyes? Because obviously there was

820
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: you know that we heard pop records that got leaked

821
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: way after where he was talking about Snoop. You know

822
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, did you see that with your

823
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: own eyes? Like that division, like whether you could sit

824
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: where you could tell like, oh, you know Snoops can

825
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: eventually end up leaving death APN is a gang? Yes, yes,

826
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: self explanatory. Yes, How how weird was that that? That

827
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: that time though, because you're obviously from a fans perspective,

828
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: we didn't see all of the intern issues going on,

829
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: right pocket is like you said, the biggest thing moving

830
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: you know, two of America's most wanted is a song

831
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: with Pock and Snoop on it that's going crazy. But

832
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: did the beat and das did the beat? And and

833
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: you know and at the time there the Snoop and

834
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: Pock and sugarn't seeing I die? You know what I'm saying, Like,

835
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: what was that? What was that? What was that era

836
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: like of just just being around Snoop and dog pounds

837
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: like this Crip? That was the era period? That's what

838
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: it was, right, Crip? So at that like was there

839
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: ever a point in time? Work was our friend? And

840
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: when I say our, I'm speaking of the dog pound

841
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: in general, Snoopy, dazz Grub. You know what I'm saying,

842
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: and outlaws and thug life psyching everybody, you know what

843
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So they was all our friends. Now the

844
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: two heads of the horses having issue, you know, so

845
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: you know eventually it would have worked that out, you

846
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's what you know friends do.

847
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: And Tupac and Snoopy were real friends, you know what

848
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And Poc had his issue and Snoopy was

849
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,439
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, what's gonna happen to Snoop? Right?

850
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: Nothing if people are smart? Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

851
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: And Pac didn't want a harm dog, you know what

852
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Tupac loved dog. He was more disappointed than anything.

853
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: And you know, me and Pac are similar. Sometimes we

854
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: bring the cart before the horse, you know what I'm saying.

855
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 1: And like those records you hear, you know that was Pac.

856
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: He was filled with anger and he would let it go.

857
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: And those records probably were never even recorded for us

858
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: to ever hear. Obviously they were never official released like

859
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: they was recorded to be heard, you know. But it's

860
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: just like me and DMX, you know what I'm saying.

861
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 1: You know, we we got together and squashed our beef

862
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: and we didn't even know each other. Snoop and Tupac

863
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 1: they knew each other, they were friends, so that was yeah,

864
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that would eventually been

865
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: taking out the water. And I doubt if Pop would

866
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 1: have released those records about Snoopy, you know what I'm saying.

867
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: But you never know what. Tupac was very spontaneous and

868
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: he said what he meant. You know what I'm saying

869
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: that it was Tupac, you talk to me about you know,

870
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: Four Horsemen, which was originally a record that was on

871
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: I forget which Cannabis album it was. I think it

872
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: was two a group. We tried to do it, put

873
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: it together, but our shit kept leaking. We put the

874
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: group together first, came up with the whole idea, and

875
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: we were about to make a reality, but records kept

876
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: getting leak, kept getting leaked, so we put a pause

877
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: on it. So Cannabis and ras Cast took one of

878
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: the records. Each took a different record. It was like, well,

879
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: fuck it, man, I'm gonna put this on my album.

880
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: Since we're gonna freeze on the album, right, I'm gon'll

881
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: put this on my album. That was cannabis, and I'm

882
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: gonna put this on my I think priests took couples

883
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,919
Speaker 1: that fuck it, I don't put these on March because

884
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: we planned on starting from scratch anyway. Everybody was leaking

885
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: all of our shit, so that's what they did to

886
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: give them pieces of the Horsemen and the experience that

887
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: we was planning on coming back together to give them

888
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: new records. Took us twenty years to actually get through

889
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: the real the real masterpiece together, the real product. Saying,

890
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: like what you guys did back then. I always look

891
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: at you guys as like the original Slaughterhouse, Like you know,

892
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: slaughter House was Joe Budden and Joel our Teas and

893
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: Royce everybody came to there the Crooked Eye. But you

894
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 1: guys did that first as just kind of like this

895
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: supergroup of like just lyrical monsters. You know what I'm saying.

896
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,439
Speaker 1: That's a compliment, Thank you much. Why was why? Why?

897
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: Why is now the time to come back together? Though? Like?

898
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: Why why? Uh? Like what's the motivation to do for

899
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 1: Horsemen project in twenty twenty one. We're a real group.

900
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: It's not a gimmick, right, and we were just doing

901
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: it just to do it. Yeah, he's a real group.

902
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: Dog Pound, EPM, D RUN, DMC, Public Enemy. You know,

903
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: one album, many more to come, you know what I'm saying.

904
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: It took us dad long to be able to get it.

905
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: People kept throwing our ship out there inside people. You know,

906
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: we couldn't ship, man, they just kept coming out. Do

907
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: five records, next thing, you know, four of them will

908
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: get leaked. That's crazy, like oh man, And then you know,

909
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: we got our own lives and careers, so then, you know,

910
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: you try so much to get it there, it keeps

911
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: falling back. So you know, hey, we just go and

912
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: do our own things and eventually get back together when

913
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 1: we can and try it again. And we tried about

914
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: two good times the first time, and then we try

915
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 1: the second time the same results. So this is the

916
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: third time to try try and rather right three times

917
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: it yar'll swell? What's the competition levels between all four

918
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 1: of you guys, because each one of you, I mean,

919
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: do you get on the record hoping to have the

920
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: best verse, because everyone's killers on each one of these records.

921
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: You know, I get on there and have fun, right,

922
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's fun, so you know, get up there.

923
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: Everybody's together, or three of us together, or even if

924
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 1: it's two and you just spit. You know what I'm saying.

925
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: The first the first verse tells you everything. I don't

926
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: think we came up with hooks first. I think we

927
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: came up the verses first. Right, bam, what's that first

928
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: one laid first? The next one comes, the hook comes. Oh,

929
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: let's get that to such and such, such and such,

930
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: or if we're all there, it just falls in line.

931
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: You know, we just have fun. We just get on

932
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 1: the mic. Our songs is similar to ciphers. They all

933
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: start off as ciphers to be playing, and then everybody's

934
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:20,439
Speaker 1: just get the busting like a cipher and then yeah,

935
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: something catching crash, which is exactly what fans would want

936
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: to hear from you guys. Some bars. That's all we did.

937
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: And you know, and that was the key to Horsemen.

938
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: You know, we wasn't thinking about radio records or thank god,

939
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,919
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want that from from people to people like yeah,

940
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We gave them the mic.

941
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: That's what the Horseman is about, pure and the delta

942
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: ated mic, you know what I'm saying. And so you know,

943
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 1: we was able to still save a couple from the

944
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: past people ain't getting. We took a couple of records

945
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: that stood out from the past that we that was

946
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 1: placed out and then just some new ones and added

947
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: on ras and may basically forefront of getting it all

948
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:09,760
Speaker 1: together and putting it all together. They did great. Okay,

949
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: so that so go support the full Horseman ship. Oh yeah,

950
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 1: is there any talks of doing another dot pound album?

951
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: We dropping August August thirteenth, So August thirteenth, the thirt

952
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,760
Speaker 1: so that's coming me and dads yep. And the first

953
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: single is Nice and Slow. We released some from the album,

954
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: I think two of them. We gave Tom to lighten

955
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: up their little muskets and uh which you know, bottom

956
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 1: bitch and we rolling. And then we just shot our

957
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: first single and second official singles. The first one is

958
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 1: Nice and Slow with me, Dad's and Snoopy. Second one

959
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: is used to you know me, dads and Eric Bellinger

960
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: Aaric belder Man, Yeah, my guy. Uh. And then the

961
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: other thing is you know, Dre has been in the

962
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: studio working on the Detox and thirteen million iterations of

963
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: the Detox for the last hour. Doctor Dre is a stickler.

964
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: How many how many, like have you heard any of

965
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: that music? And were you asked to be on any

966
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: of the records that we probably will never end up hearing.

967
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: But like, were you ever at a at all point

968
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: a part of that creative process since day one? Since

969
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: day one? How great is the music? Because I'm sure

970
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: whatever you heard will probably never even end up hearing.

971
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: But like, I mean, I hope I'm wrong. I heard

972
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,919
Speaker 1: three or four detoxes. You know. It's like, but doctor Dre,

973
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's a perfectionist. That's why all his

974
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: records are just different. Every time they hit a peak,

975
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: they go somewhere with something different. Doctor Dre. It's a perfectionist,

976
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: you know, he's you know, you wait and you wait,

977
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: but when you get it, it's worth it. Oh boy

978
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: is it? You know what I'm saying. And so you

979
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: know with doctor Dre, I mean, shit, man, he got

980
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: so much in that bolt you know, classics, but you know,

981
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: doctor Dre, it's something he's looking for and when he

982
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: finds it, I just hope. I just hope we like,

983
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: like we get an album where we hear you and

984
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: Snoop and Dazz and Exhibit and you know, Dre have

985
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: so many that he has created so many like a

986
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: coup of stars and crowman artists that people want to

987
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: hear like that. You know, I think it's kind of

988
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: difficult by the way he did well. He did a

989
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: great job putting the Compton album together. That album doesn't

990
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: get talked about enough. That was a great body of work.

991
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: But I just like, I'm just always like man, like

992
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: you know, I remember before that album, the last Chronic

993
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: album he put out the Aftermath after Yeah, the Aftermath compilation.

994
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: We've been there, done that, and then he dropped the Chronic.

995
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: This time he dropped Compton, which that's fair, so nice comparison.

996
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: So you know what's gonna happened. Okay, well we'll be

997
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: waiting and let's just look at what he has to

998
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: bring to the table, and then you'll understand how difficult

999
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: it is because the album has to have everybody on it.

1000
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: This has to have those three, it has to have

1001
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: Kendrick Snoop, It's got to have you. It's gotta yeah, no, no,

1002
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: for sure. Rage you know, that's the type of place

1003
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: doctor Drake's going where I can fit in. Its just

1004
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: all of it a big gumbo. What I'm saying well

1005
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: that's what he did with two thousand and one. Man,

1006
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: it was it was like a perfect you know even.

1007
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: I mean when I talked to fifty, I was like, yo, fifty, like,

1008
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: why don't you Am and Dre just get into the

1009
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: studio and make an album, Like that's what the fans want.

1010
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: Why is it so hard to just give people what

1011
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: they want? But but but he gets in the studio,

1012
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: and then there's M and M who's the you know,

1013
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: and then there's fifties executive producing all these TV shows.

1014
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's not you know, just being a hip hop fan,

1015
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: you thinks ship's a lot of years, and it really is.

1016
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. First thing is how do

1017
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: you get Doctor Dre in the studio? Doctor Dre? Get

1018
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: you in the studio, you dude, that's the key. And

1019
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: as soon as Doctor Dre you know, shoots out that

1020
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: bat signal, we all gonna come immediately. He's ready him

1021
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: Snoopy Gotti, dass rage rb xom boom fifty yep, immediately game.

1022
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Doctor Dre has such an arsenal.

1023
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: His tree is crazy stupid and everybody would be right there.

1024
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: Kendrick yep, well listen man, correct, I appreciate the sit down. Yes, sir,

1025
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: you're a legend. I mean, you are the man. When

1026
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: I first moved to l A, I ran into you

1027
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: at Hooters across the street from Staples Center, and I

1028
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: was like, this is a good day I was doing.

1029
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: That was my my, my, my years of when I

1030
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: was indulging in some good old fashioned patron Yes, you

1031
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: were drunk for sure. I had to leave all that corrupt.

1032
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: I lave you to death. Kid, Thanks for having just