WEBVTT - Beating The Book: 2024 Q3 MLB Derivative Stats Show

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<v Speaker 1>Check it down man.

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<v Speaker 2>Monday morning, August nineteenth, twenty twenty four, it is the

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<v Speaker 2>Beating the Book Podcast, kil Alexander, and it's time for

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<v Speaker 2>the Major League Baseball Q three MLB Derivatives Betting Show.

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<v Speaker 2>I probably said those words out of order, but you

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<v Speaker 2>get the idea. This is the longest running series in

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<v Speaker 2>the history of the Beating the Book Podcast, even longer

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<v Speaker 2>than the megapod and Guessing lines, which of course are

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<v Speaker 2>coming up in a couple of weeks. And as always

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<v Speaker 2>throughout its entire history, my dog throughout this all he's Batman.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Robin smart Porch at everybody base Winner from an

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<v Speaker 2>undisclosed location somewhere in the desert. What's happened to Mark?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? I'm enjoying this. I enjoy your intro to you.

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<v Speaker 1>It always is so fun. And I jokingly call you

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<v Speaker 1>the voice of sports betting, but I really mean that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you're not the voice of sports betting,

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<v Speaker 1>who the hell is So I say that you're the

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<v Speaker 1>voice of sports betting, and you are because I said it, gil.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank you. And if you said it, you said

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<v Speaker 2>and that's that it's done. I don't have an alternative.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think who would be the alternative. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody mayby, you know, Ben Ben Wilson has a really

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<v Speaker 1>good voice, but he's just been He's just the baby.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. We've been doing this for the last forty years, Gil,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But this podcast is older than he is. For God's sakes,

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<v Speaker 2>he's twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think he's twelve years.

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<v Speaker 2>He's great. He'll be the most famous person at VISA when.

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<v Speaker 1>He does have a good voice. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think I would vote for your voice over

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<v Speaker 1>his voice, as much as I love his voice.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the end of the podcast. Everybody, thank you. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>be wonderful. Thank you, Mark, You're very kind. Let us

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<v Speaker 2>begin as we always do, so these are going to

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<v Speaker 2>get more proprietary as this show goes on, right, These

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be more proprietary as these shows go on.

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<v Speaker 2>As the show goes on, we'll get to five innings,

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<v Speaker 2>first five's, we'll get to first inning bets. We start though,

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<v Speaker 2>with the more common one, which is all right, as

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<v Speaker 2>we round the quarter pole here, right, because we just

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<v Speaker 2>passed the quarter pole mark less than forty games now

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<v Speaker 2>left in the Major League Baseball season. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>Bizarro exercise. You've been on every one of these teams

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<v Speaker 2>on the money line every single game, whether they're a

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<v Speaker 2>favorite or a dog. Who mark do you have as

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<v Speaker 2>the most profitable team in all of baseball? We have

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<v Speaker 2>a new one, the Guardians. Well what I have, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it Covers their second. This is these numbers to me,

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<v Speaker 2>comes from Covers. They have the Milwaukee Brewers as number one.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's really close. It's neck and ex So this

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<v Speaker 2>It's my buddy boss Sack.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, shout out to him for what he's put together,

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<v Speaker 1>because it is. It is nice. They've changed the interface

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's beautiful. It literally is gorgeous. Not as

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<v Speaker 1>good as your voice, but close. So we got Guardians.

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<v Speaker 1>If you bet on them, I guess it's one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>a game. You're thirteen forty eight up and then Brewers

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<v Speaker 1>are thirteen twenty two. That's how close it is. Gil.

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<v Speaker 2>They have it at Milwaukee fifteen and a half units up,

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<v Speaker 2>Cleveland twelve and a half units up. So for them

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's I mean, it's super close. When you look

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<v Speaker 2>at out of the course of the whole season either way,

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<v Speaker 2>Milwaukee the sneaky freaky brother sneaking in from the rear

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<v Speaker 2>to quote the great l Cool Jay.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a trippy team too, because if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at their components, like, oh gosh, you know, I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>at what I do when I run my Monty Carlos

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<v Speaker 1>simulations is I have It's basically, you know, offensive production

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<v Speaker 1>minus defensive runs allowed, if you will. And Milwaukee's like

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<v Speaker 1>number eleven. And of course that's with the yellich out

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<v Speaker 1>of the lineup and their components. But they've been doing

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<v Speaker 1>it and Pat Murphy a great coach, He's been putting

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<v Speaker 1>it together. I just still I don't know. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is coming from a guy. Gil. I'm sitting on like

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<v Speaker 1>a plus five fifty Brewers to win the division ticket.

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<v Speaker 1>So I really like them at the beginning of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've got them about eleventh, Gil, So interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you also have an a didn't you have them

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<v Speaker 2>one to two exact of Milwaukee in somebody?

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<v Speaker 1>I had Milwaukee in the Cubs. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's gonna happen or not. I can tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what the percentages is if you can fillibuster for a

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<v Speaker 1>second based on my projections. For me, it's it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen. It looks more well, No, the Cubs

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<v Speaker 1>Brewers Cubs forty two point two percent for that to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So I actually it is a favorite. I checked that.

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<v Speaker 1>I take that back so that I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>it paid at the beginning of the year, but so

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<v Speaker 1>it's the favorite in that division to happen right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Gil Milwaukee, Cleveland, neck and neck, followed by some distance

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<v Speaker 2>between these three teams. San Diego, Arizona, Kansas City. Washington

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<v Speaker 2>at six is still the funny one right fifty six

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<v Speaker 2>and sixty nine, But they've been a dog so often

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<v Speaker 2>that they have gotten again bizarro exercise. I guess the question,

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<v Speaker 2>as always with this is it's fun to talk about,

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<v Speaker 2>but predictive wise, do you feel like Milwaukee, Cleveland, San Diego, Arizona,

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas City, those five down the stretch will still be there?

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think that they. I mean, are you

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<v Speaker 1>talking about like traditional standings or you talk about like

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<v Speaker 1>are they going to be the profitable the most profitable team? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>because they built up such a such a portfolio today,

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<v Speaker 1>so that they should be. I mean, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that there's any glaring weakness with any of the teams.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that when you stack them up against the Dodgers,

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<v Speaker 1>if they're healthy, that's a big if. With the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 1>and the Padres, then it starts to break down a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. But as far as what they've done from

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<v Speaker 1>a profit standpoint, I don't think there's anything wrong with

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<v Speaker 1>playing these teams. I know that you're kind of leveraged

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit on the Royals a little bit. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess the Royals Diamondbacks, don't. I don't hate that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've got the Diamondbacks best record at which is

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<v Speaker 2>a number. I have number one seed at thirteen to

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<v Speaker 2>one or twelve to one, number one seed National League.

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<v Speaker 2>I have best record in Major League Baseball at forty

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<v Speaker 2>to one. I have the Diamondbacks versus the Royals in

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<v Speaker 2>the World Series at four hundred to one. How about

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<v Speaker 2>that all? Well, that's that's yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a that's some that's some leverage there on the

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<v Speaker 1>Diamondbacks scale. So that I bet you you didn't you

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<v Speaker 1>weren't a big fan of what happened this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I was not, But I mean Jeff Passing did

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<v Speaker 2>you see this Jeff Passing tweet which I think was great.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Passon put out a tweet last night which really

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<v Speaker 2>expressed to me, I mean, beyond the numbers, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to look at here. Just like you know, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>saying this is the year to take a long shot

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<v Speaker 2>fly er on something because these teams are so bunched

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<v Speaker 2>up it's incredible. Here's here's what Passen said. He goes,

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<v Speaker 2>this is shaping up to be the weirdest. I'll get

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<v Speaker 2>you exact words here. This is shaping up to be

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<v Speaker 2>the weirdest baseball season in a decade. Was six weeks left.

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<v Speaker 2>Here are the dozen best records in MLB. Basically the

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<v Speaker 2>Phillies at seventy three and fifty one down to the

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<v Speaker 2>Braves at sixty six and fifty eight. Actually, if you

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<v Speaker 2>take the Astros and Braves out, who are eleven and twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>The top ten teams Phillies to Diamondbacks are all separated

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<v Speaker 2>by four wins. And if you look at run differential

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<v Speaker 2>best run differential, the Yankees at plus one sixteen are

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<v Speaker 2>the most. And if you go down eleven the Twins

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<v Speaker 2>are plus seventy, and that Yankees at plus one sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Passing goes on to say, first of all, with the record,

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<v Speaker 2>he says, the best team in MLB is on pace

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<v Speaker 2>for ninety five wins. Last year without a one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>win team was twenty fourteen. That was the third Giants

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<v Speaker 2>World Series mark if you're scoring at home. And then similarly,

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<v Speaker 2>the last time the top run differential in baseball was

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<v Speaker 2>less than two thirty one to the positive plus two

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<v Speaker 2>thirty one. Remember, the Yankees lead with a quarter of

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<v Speaker 2>the season left at plus one sixteen, less than a

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<v Speaker 2>quarter of the season, so basically it's barely half that

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<v Speaker 2>at the moment. All of which he says is a

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<v Speaker 2>year after a ninety win wildcard team faced an eighty

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<v Speaker 2>four win wild guard team in the World Series, the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four Championship looks us up for grabs. This

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<v Speaker 2>has been in a long time. I couldn't agree more.

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<v Speaker 1>Now watch them, Yeah, I know it's interest now watching

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<v Speaker 1>the Yankees.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Dodgers in the World Series.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know. My The highest run projection I have

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<v Speaker 1>based on the simulations is Yankees ninety four point three.

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<v Speaker 1>As I as I've browsers soor check that the Phillies

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<v Speaker 1>ninety four point six, so right there, less than ninety

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<v Speaker 1>five wins. I don't know if I necessarily agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the gots the depth of that, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Dodgers are such as it's really perplexing because we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the health of Glass now. We don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the healthy Yamamoto and I don't know. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>for me, the most challenging part of handicapping as I've

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<v Speaker 1>delved into more future betting and simulations is trying to

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<v Speaker 1>predict that injury and really trying to decipher what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on because you know, they So this is a good example.

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<v Speaker 1>Gil Yamamoda pitches a simulated game yesterday and oh how

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<v Speaker 1>did he look?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Roberts, Oh he looked great, he looked really good.

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<v Speaker 1>What is he going to say? Oh? God, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>We're really concerned about him. He looks like shit, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what are they going to say?

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<v Speaker 2>So?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's that's tough to figure out these injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that you can go down the list

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<v Speaker 1>of teams and how it affects them. I think for me,

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<v Speaker 1>the the future of futures. Handicapping, if you will, is

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<v Speaker 1>trying to predict these injuries to the best of our ability,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's gonna be noise no matter how you do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But for me, I'm sorry I went off on a

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<v Speaker 1>tangent there, but I think that's that's super important because

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<v Speaker 1>I think if Glass now and Yamamoto come back, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a hard task to beat those Dodgers, Gill, It's.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to be fascinating how this turns out. And again, already,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it wasn't like this, as I've said many times,

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<v Speaker 2>the incongruence between playing one hundred and sixty two games

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<v Speaker 2>and then having to do a best of three and

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<v Speaker 2>a best of five in baseball is a cruel playoff

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<v Speaker 2>format anyway, So like it's just going to be mayhem.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's only it is it is. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>really good point as far as the probability of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're sixty percent to win a three game series,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, even if you put it binomially as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to a seventh game, seven game series, there's a big

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<v Speaker 1>difference from a probability standpoint on that guild. That is

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<v Speaker 1>a really good point, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy, and I mean, as I look at the

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<v Speaker 2>standings now, though, do you think that the twelve teams

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<v Speaker 2>that are in We talked about this a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>on air, but I'll talk let's have the same question

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<v Speaker 2>here on the podcast. Do you think that the twelve

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<v Speaker 2>teams that are in playoff position right now are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the twelve teams that are going to be in?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that the will. So this is how

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<v Speaker 1>I have We'll talk about from a league standpoint, Phillies

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<v Speaker 1>to win that division, make the playoffs. To make the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>the Phillies ninety nine point five percent of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>Dodgers are ninety nine percent, Brewers ninety nine percent, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we have the Podres for me are ninety eight percent.

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<v Speaker 1>So those four pretty pretty much. There Braves eighty seven percent,

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<v Speaker 1>So you can say that's five. So it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be between the Mets, the Diamondbacks and roughly and the Giants,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe with an outside chance, and so maybe you give

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants an eight percent chance and then you split

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<v Speaker 1>the diamond Backs are close to seventy percent and the

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<v Speaker 1>Mets have that the rest of.

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<v Speaker 2>That then the Mets just refuse refuse to take that

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<v Speaker 2>position from the braves.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so bad, you know this this Mets team, and

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<v Speaker 1>I want to give a person like a picture to

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<v Speaker 1>bet again. So this Vincente. Beloso, and I was listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the game and I had a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>cash on the Mets yesterday they lost, but talking listening

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<v Speaker 1>to how he Rose broadcast the game, describing the picture

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<v Speaker 1>as a beer League pitcher looks like a Beer League

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<v Speaker 1>picture out there, that he's doing it with smoke and mirrors,

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<v Speaker 1>And this is the guy howis been in the game

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, So I trust what he says. I

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<v Speaker 1>am playing against Beloso the next time he comes out.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I like that. Okay, fade Beloso.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a Beer League picture and smoking mirrors. Okay, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go against it. And his numbers are his numbers are

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<v Speaker 1>awful too, I mean just sabermetrically, so of course.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh okay, I can't wait for I cannot wait to

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<v Speaker 2>see this. How do you spell his last name? For

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<v Speaker 2>those who are like Beloso, how do you spell it?

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<v Speaker 1>He's a Miami Marlin guy and as b E l

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<v Speaker 1>l O z O volent sounds like aol. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like an opera.

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<v Speaker 2>Singer, right, Gil, does he wear number eighty three? Is

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<v Speaker 2>that true?

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<v Speaker 1>He does? And then I said that there and that

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<v Speaker 1>was another thing that he said. Now he's number eighty three.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like we're in a spring training game and this

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<v Speaker 1>is like and like, without going off on them, that's batters,

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<v Speaker 1>like how can these guys not hit him? And they

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<v Speaker 1>kept the guys off balanced to be fair, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think that like a good approach with this guy would

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<v Speaker 1>go a long way. Gill, Oh, that's all.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm all right, I like that. All right, let's get there.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, let's just rattle through some of these

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<v Speaker 2>numbers here the worst money line teams. I'm not even

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<v Speaker 2>gonna mention anyone beyond number one because number two is

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<v Speaker 2>all the way at like you'd be hemorrhage sixteen and

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<v Speaker 2>a half units on the Rangers. But it's not even

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<v Speaker 2>worth talking about anybody after number one. I think in

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<v Speaker 2>the entire history that you and I have been doing

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<v Speaker 2>this show, I don't think there's ever been as big

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<v Speaker 2>a gap between one and everybody else as there is here.

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<v Speaker 2>You know who it is full game we're talking because

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<v Speaker 2>you and I talked about the five full game difference

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<v Speaker 2>last time, and we'll get into that momentarily. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you bet the Chicago White Sox every one of their

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and twenty five games so far this year,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course if you're doing that, you're doing something

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<v Speaker 2>terribly wrong. But if you had, you'd be down forty

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<v Speaker 2>eight and a half units.

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<v Speaker 1>Have we ever known that before? It's worse on this

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<v Speaker 1>this fifty one point five on Killer Sports, But no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember it like we have any And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this team's bad, but they've they really should have more

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<v Speaker 1>wins than they do. Just even you think about, like

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<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna win, if you're you're at plus two hundred, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's thirty three percent, you're gonna win thirty three percent

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<v Speaker 1>of their games. And then they haven't done that, so like,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's just from a talent standpoint. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with that White Sox team. I'm happy

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<v Speaker 1>about it. I did have the White Sox. They have

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<v Speaker 1>the worst worst record in baseball, but I'm getting like

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely no suspense. I mean right, so, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fun bet. That's a really fun betkill because

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<v Speaker 1>you can check well, you know, you can root against

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<v Speaker 1>it in this this year's case. You can root against

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<v Speaker 1>the Rockies. You could root against the Marlins. Now it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well I won the best, so now I'm happy. I

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<v Speaker 1>check shit. I'll be happy if I win the damn

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<v Speaker 1>bet forty five days before the season end. Skilled that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, if we did the home road splits,

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<v Speaker 2>Cleveland edges Colorado as the best money line home team.

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<v Speaker 2>Again Bizarro exercise, you bet them every single game, favorite

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<v Speaker 2>or dog, Cleveland edging the Rockies at Coors as the

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<v Speaker 2>best home team. No surprise, the Diamondbacks seventeen a little

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<v Speaker 2>more than seventeen and a half of their lost units

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<v Speaker 2>were at home more than thirty lost on the road.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're a White Sox backer and the best away team,

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<v Speaker 2>San Diego edging the Yankees closely followed by the Red

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<v Speaker 2>Sox is the best three away money line teams by

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<v Speaker 2>the way run line de facto power power rating. If

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<v Speaker 2>you will your favorite, you win by more than a

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<v Speaker 2>run and a half, you're a dog. You sometimes get

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<v Speaker 2>a win because you're a win in the betting column,

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<v Speaker 2>because you're a dog of a a run and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>So sometimes if you lose and you only lose by

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<v Speaker 2>the one run you get the win in those cases.

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<v Speaker 2>Baltimore by far the best run line team nineteen units

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<v Speaker 2>of the positive, more than doubling up the Royals as

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<v Speaker 2>the number two best run line team.

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<v Speaker 1>You have that, I don't you know, I'm fascinated by

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<v Speaker 1>because we do this every year, Gal, and yet Tom

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<v Speaker 1>correct me if I'm wrong. Home away Rockies at home

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<v Speaker 1>number two, like a way they're like down towards the bottom,

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<v Speaker 1>Like isn't this every year?

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's incredible?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we learn? Can we learn? At age fifty four?

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<v Speaker 1>Gill Right, Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's the thing about the Rockies though, getting back

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<v Speaker 2>to the money line, home and Roads. We'll get to

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<v Speaker 2>the run lines in a minute, but the Rockies home

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<v Speaker 2>and Road, this is what they've been. The fact that

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<v Speaker 2>they got to the World Series once is pretty mind

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<v Speaker 2>blowing because you're essentially having to roster two completely different

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<v Speaker 2>baseball teams that with Cores as your home field, right

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<v Speaker 2>because and I know guys who have I know at

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<v Speaker 2>least one guy who has played on that team, and

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<v Speaker 2>he will say it, you're playing Cores. It's just so

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<v Speaker 2>hit or friendly. I remember Sergio Roma, I always use

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<v Speaker 2>a Sergio Romo example, his slider simply didn't slide at Cours.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course the dimensions are it's a prairie, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's doubles and triples galore. But then those same players, right,

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<v Speaker 2>pitchers and batters alike, then have to go on the road,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden, the hitters don't have the

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<v Speaker 2>confidence that they've built up artificially in the environment that

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<v Speaker 2>is cores and pitchers. The pitches don't pitch, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the pitches don't go the same way. So it's your

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<v Speaker 2>like playing two completely different games.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, it's really weird because and like for me,

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<v Speaker 1>like these guys are the guys the Olympic distance runners.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll train an altitude and then they'll go down and

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<v Speaker 1>run and see the level so your body feels better.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that there's difference. You made a good

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<v Speaker 1>point about how the ball moves. Baseball might not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>be how fit you are, you know, it might be

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<v Speaker 1>how you see the pitch and on how much you

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<v Speaker 1>can what kind of curve or lack of curve, if

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<v Speaker 1>you will, you can put on it. But I just

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<v Speaker 1>thought that that was so interesting because we've been talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this for years, and I will admittedly say that

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't taken advantage of it. I guess as much

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<v Speaker 1>as I should.

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<v Speaker 2>Have, I haven't either. I haven't either. It's one of

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<v Speaker 2>those things that you know again, it's it's predictive. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not only narrative, it's predictive, which is why we do

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<v Speaker 2>these derivative shows. We're not just trying to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're trying to find things that are predictive. It never fails.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet that's just not the way our brains work

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to baseball, right, Like we're not thinking

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<v Speaker 2>on a daily base as well. The Rockies are on

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<v Speaker 2>the road. I'm just gonna blanket, you know which, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, I have been doing with those monthly baseball

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<v Speaker 2>bets up until the Mets this month, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>because they've been so bad. But those monthly baseball bets,

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<v Speaker 2>like I was brain dead betting the Guardians in March

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<v Speaker 2>April and May it worked out great. A brain dead

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<v Speaker 2>bet the uh the Astros in June they ended up winning. June,

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<v Speaker 2>I brained dead bet the Royals they finished ninth, and

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<v Speaker 2>it finally took a fifth month for that not to work.

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<v Speaker 2>On the Mets, because the Mets have been got awful

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<v Speaker 2>in August.

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<v Speaker 1>But we don't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>With the Rockies. And maybe you're right, maybe we should.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, I think that we got to be like introspective

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<v Speaker 1>as much as we can. But I will give you

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<v Speaker 1>props for for being I guess introspective about you, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I don't know how. I don't even know what

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<v Speaker 1>the word is for that. You probably do, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good approach you're taking. You're going a month, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're taking a lot of variants out of the out

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<v Speaker 1>of the thing. And I think that, like, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>good at this, just like looking at it right, you

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<v Speaker 1>can model it. But the schedule is so important. So

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<v Speaker 1>like I remember, like you betting the Astros and they

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<v Speaker 1>played the As one hundred times and they played the

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<v Speaker 1>White Sox one hundred times. I'm kind of exaggerating there,

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<v Speaker 1>but but taking a look at that schedule, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if that's factored factored in. And so I commend

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<v Speaker 1>you on your approach. I think that that's that's a

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<v Speaker 1>cool way to play it. And to mend the sports

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<v Speaker 1>books all over the world who put that market out.

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<v Speaker 2>Here yeah, William Hill Caesars is one and Circa was

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<v Speaker 2>the other. DraftKings participated the first month, then they bowed

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<v Speaker 2>out of it. What about the run line? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>have Baltimore that high up over everybody else?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know because I have it. I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>it up in front of me.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, yeah, I got I got Baltimore. Ninth is

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<v Speaker 2>a per covers, Baltimore nineteen units of the positive. The

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas City Royals at nine point seven units of the

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<v Speaker 2>positive is second place. So Baltimore just crushing on the

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<v Speaker 2>run line if you bet them every time. And the

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<v Speaker 2>worst run line team is not the White Sox, they're

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<v Speaker 2>second worst. Any ideas who the worst run line team

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<v Speaker 2>might be.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I can tell you who it is at home,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's what I have in front of me. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got the Rays as the worst run line team.

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<v Speaker 2>At home at home. Interesting. Interesting, they're kind of middling

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to I don't have the home World

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<v Speaker 2>sports on run line, but when it comes to overall

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<v Speaker 2>run line, they're kind of middling. The worst run line

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<v Speaker 2>team in baseball per Covers is by two units worse,

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<v Speaker 2>two units worse than the White Sox. Actually not quite

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<v Speaker 2>two unit's about one point six units worse the Chicago Cubs.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's that's crazy. That's interesting. You know what, it's

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<v Speaker 1>crazy where the White Sox are because now I was

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<v Speaker 1>able to pull it up Gil at Killer Sports and

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<v Speaker 1>for me it's Rangers worst run line team, Cubs, Mariners, Marlins,

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<v Speaker 1>raised White Sox, White Socks are above like five teams

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<v Speaker 1>on the run line that minus twenty four units. Rangers

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<v Speaker 1>are down at thirty three point eight units skill on

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<v Speaker 1>Killer Sports.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is interesting. So again, this is the problem

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<v Speaker 2>with these and this has happened over the years. We've

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<v Speaker 2>noticed that I get these very broad ones from covers.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're doing it from Carl Sachs Killer Sports, and

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<v Speaker 2>we love Carl that they Again, is it question of

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<v Speaker 2>are they calculating it from different books? Is one doing

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<v Speaker 2>a consensus? Is one doing it from one book? Are

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<v Speaker 2>they doing a closing line? Like what is you know what? Exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>How are they tabulating it? And there's gonna be some

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<v Speaker 2>difference the way that covers. As it is, the Cubs

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<v Speaker 2>are the worst, the White Sox are second, the Red

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<v Speaker 2>Sox third worst, the Marlins fourth worst, the Mariners and

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<v Speaker 2>then the Rangers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's interesting now, but I do have the Orioles

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<v Speaker 1>as the best team, so there's no there's no no doubt,

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>Derek gil Best pictures. Now, this is a bizarro exercise. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>if you just backed this picture every time he started,

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<v Speaker 2>who would be the number one pitcher in baseball? Just

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<v Speaker 2>randomly in terms of money won? This is this is

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<v Speaker 2>so random to me any idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how that count. I've got Trevor.

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<v Speaker 2>Wrever Williams is number one because because the Nationals are

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<v Speaker 2>nine and two result, ultimately all the eleven times he started, Now, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really surprising. That's the surprise of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>You now the number two again and he's only he's

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<v Speaker 2>only started eleven times, so he kind of gets away

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<v Speaker 2>with the small samples eyes, but he still has the

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<v Speaker 2>most money. Number two with twenty four starts and the

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<v Speaker 2>Guardians have gone eighteen and six with him. On the

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<v Speaker 2>hill is our guy tanner byby number two?

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<v Speaker 1>Bibby Bobby Byby Oh yeah wow, yeah, look at that. Yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>So those are those are one two, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>dead last. If you're wondering, like, who's the pitcher that

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<v Speaker 2>if I backed him every time he stepped to the hill,

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<v Speaker 2>is actually the biggest money hemorrhager. It's our boy flexing,

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<v Speaker 2>do you okay?

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<v Speaker 1>So you have you have flex in it? So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not flexing his muscles.

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<v Speaker 2>I got flexing by margin. He has stopped. He has

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<v Speaker 2>started twenty four games. The white socks are two and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>He was amazing. I mean, you cann't even make that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you can't they throw him out there, They

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<v Speaker 1>throw him out there again. Two yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you would be down almost eighteen units just betting

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<v Speaker 2>that one individual human being.

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<v Speaker 1>So and you know the good thing about when you

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<v Speaker 1>when you do a show and you bet against flex

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<v Speaker 1>and is you can always say, well, Flexen has not

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<v Speaker 1>been flexing his muscle.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, the tortured everybody. When don't you started your

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<v Speaker 2>dad Jokes podcast? When does that start?

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<v Speaker 1>It's every day at at eight am bet Us show.

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<v Speaker 1>You get handicapped picks and bad jokes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, all right, bet you? Oh yeah, we should start

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<v Speaker 2>with that. So the bet Us Show, when when is

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<v Speaker 2>it released?

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<v Speaker 1>Every day eight am Monday through Friday, and I take

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday off.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, by the way, on your numbers game appearances. Please

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<v Speaker 2>remind me next time I have to start with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing it to be absolutely Who are you

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<v Speaker 2>doing it with this year? Who are you doing it

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<v Speaker 2>with this year?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? So Kyle is the host. He's the host second

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<v Speaker 1>year in a Kyle purveyance and he's a funny guy,

0:23:56.800 --> 0:24:00.720
<v Speaker 1>really good host, keeps it moving. Corby Craig is the

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's back for a second year. And then we

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<v Speaker 1>have a guy Kenny and his last name like is

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<v Speaker 1>eluding me right now, Gil, I don't Kenny McAndrews because

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<v Speaker 1>they call him moonshot McAndrews and he does a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of props. It's really a cool show, Gil, because we

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<v Speaker 1>we all handicapped differently, and I enjoy that because I

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<v Speaker 1>like to get other guys perspectives on handicapping and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>and I like to disagree sometimes with people. Uh not

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<v Speaker 1>not just to be you know, an a hole, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to see how other people me to approach

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<v Speaker 1>the sport because there's different ways to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, well that's why I mean again, this is why

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<v Speaker 2>you you and I connected so many years ago as

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<v Speaker 2>we're fascinated by this ship, right like the whole process

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<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It is amazing. I can spend all day, I can

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<v Speaker 1>spend all day looking at numbers, and I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe there's there's a problem, but I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you know what Gil I used to there

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<v Speaker 1>used to be a game where he had a spinner

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<v Speaker 1>and and you spa and like Babe Ruth had a

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<v Speaker 1>big run number. I can't remember the name of that game,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would sit there and play that for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was ten eleven years old, for three four

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<v Speaker 1>hours a day. So I think it's just ingrained in

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<v Speaker 1>the brain.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you collect baseball cards as a kid?

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<v Speaker 1>I did, and I have a huge box of them

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere at my parents' house. They could be worth something,

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<v Speaker 1>so I went to really endeavor to take it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to DC recently and my mom says to me,

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<v Speaker 2>She goes, you know, the baseball cards are still here.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you should take it home with you. I'm like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 2>let me dive into this. The notebooks with the plastic

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<v Speaker 2>sheets are so great. Yeah, all these great cards. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought I was going to get rich off my thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>Rookie Berry Bonds cards, you know, but there's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all the way back into the eighties and the seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>I have like every you know, George brad all these

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Ricky Henderson, all these points, right, But then

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<v Speaker 2>there's the Then there's the players that like as a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought might be great, and so I put them

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<v Speaker 2>in the plastic sheets too. So there's like Tony Pania

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<v Speaker 2>and Johnny Ray all these players. Were like, why nowther

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:06.199
<v Speaker 2>of these guys get in this pass? But it's I

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<v Speaker 2>was that was a whole childhood. Man. I was so

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<v Speaker 2>into those baseball cards. And I was telling Jason Wininguard,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a bunch of and I have no idea

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<v Speaker 2>where I got these. I have a bunch of t

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<v Speaker 2>o five, to six and to seven baseball cards, none

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<v Speaker 2>of them any good and all of them in shit condition.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wonder if, like if I sold them, how

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<v Speaker 2>much I could get for anyway?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. You think that that Barry Bond's

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<v Speaker 1>rookie card would be worse something?

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<v Speaker 2>You think that was when that was when they just

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<v Speaker 2>saturated the market, you know, the rookie even the rookie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's different, right, It's different. It's different manufacturers. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think in the eighties there were there were tops Flear,

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<v Speaker 1>Don Ross and and I have the one like full

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<v Speaker 1>sets of the one that's not worth anything so that

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<v Speaker 1>you know whatever, It was just a roll of the

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<v Speaker 1>dice and I rolled the dice wrong that when I

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<v Speaker 1>was ten years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Don Russen, Flear, Don Russ, and Fleir started in the

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<v Speaker 2>early eighties, and then I want to say, yeah, they

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<v Speaker 2>started in the early eighties and they kept going. But

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<v Speaker 2>then remember like Griffy upper Deck in ninety one I

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<v Speaker 2>believe it was or eighty nine, I can't remember, but

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<v Speaker 2>the Rookie Card was the first of the set. Everybody

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<v Speaker 2>thought they were gonna rich off those, and then upper

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<v Speaker 2>Deck mass produced them and they screwed everybody. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a great Netflix doc called Jack of All Trades

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it's called. It's about the family that owned

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest baseball card shop in Canada, and it gives

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<v Speaker 2>a great window into how they just absolutely jacked the

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<v Speaker 2>whole baseball card market. It's a great great.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna watch out goody. So my wife's

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<v Speaker 1>always asking me, I always find the shows on Netflix,

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<v Speaker 1>so that I like that I've got a show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there you got some obscure one jack of all trades.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it's called umpires. And the nice thing about

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<v Speaker 2>having Mark Portrait here for umpires is he's got historical data.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just talk about twenty twenty four, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>again primarily for totals betters, who have been the most

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<v Speaker 2>reliable over and under umpires. Andy, let's talk about the overs.

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<v Speaker 2>Andy Fletcher and Bruce Dreckman. Nine of ten games that

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<v Speaker 2>they've called balls and strikes have gone to the over.

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 2>H They're the biggest over umps in baseball thus far

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<v Speaker 2>this year. Larry Vanover eight of ten to the over

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<v Speaker 2>and Lance Barksdale seven of nine to the over. How

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<v Speaker 2>about that? All right? Oh by the way, Sean Barber

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<v Speaker 2>six of seven to the.

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<v Speaker 1>Over you just mentioned. Did you just mention Lance Barksdale

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<v Speaker 1>isn't an over empire?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? I did, well.

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<v Speaker 1>Lance Barksdale is the number two from the This is

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<v Speaker 1>a from eighty one game. He's got eighty one games.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess this is over maybe the last two years

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<v Speaker 1>or so. Uh. And he's number two from a from

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<v Speaker 1>an expected e er a stamp point at one point

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<v Speaker 1>one one, which is eleven percent greater than an average umpire,

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<v Speaker 1>So like, you know, put ten percent into the into

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<v Speaker 1>your projection for this guy. But that's good that that

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<v Speaker 1>that that coincides with with actual that is what's happened

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<v Speaker 1>this year.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why we do this. So so Lance Barksdale,

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<v Speaker 2>forget about the small sample size of this year. He

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<v Speaker 2>corroborates he is, he is the same guy. He exactly

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<v Speaker 2>who we think he is, right as Dennis what it

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<v Speaker 2>was Denny Green's line, They are who we thought they are.

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<v Speaker 2>Lance Barksdale basically then has a very small strike zone

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<v Speaker 2>is what we're saying. That's probably the nature of it.

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<v Speaker 2>He has a small It's so true with.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of these guys, and the slaton is so aggravating

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, it makes a huge difference. One call

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<v Speaker 1>can make a huge difference with these guys the talent

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<v Speaker 1>level where they're at gilt.

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<v Speaker 2>So these are the now, these are the most under

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<v Speaker 2>reliable under umpires for this season. David Arietta is four

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<v Speaker 2>of four. That's a small sample size, but four of

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<v Speaker 2>four in terms of going to the under let's see here.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, these numbers are a little wacky that

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<v Speaker 2>I have Tom Hanahan and John Lipke both eight of

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<v Speaker 2>ten to the under, John Bacon and DJ Rayburn nine

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<v Speaker 2>of eleven to the under, Rob Drake ten of thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>to the under, Brennan Miller, ten of thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>To the other.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Fonzo Markz eleven of fourteen to the under.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't have any of those guys in there.

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<v Speaker 1>On The two guys that I will say that I will,

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<v Speaker 1>I will look at playing an under when they're when

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<v Speaker 1>they're umpires are Bill Miller and Doug Eddings, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>number one two from from an under understandpoint. Those are

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<v Speaker 1>the two guys where and it. You know, normally these guys,

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 1>they you know, they don't trend like one way or

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<v Speaker 1>the other. But that damn Bill Miller. I mean he's

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 1>given guys calls everywhere, and Eddings is the same way.

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 1>So those two guys, like I will not let's just

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<v Speaker 1>say this, gil, I will not playing over when these

0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 1>guys are the empire.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll do it. That's great to know. Doug Eddings

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 2>this year seven of eleven to the under, so he's

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<v Speaker 2>still being Doug Eddings. Let me see, Bill Miller, that's

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 2>your hold music. Here's our boy, Brian, there's our boy,

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Brian Knight five of seven to the under. We always

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 2>bring him up. Bill Miller. Where is Bill Miller this year? Eddings?

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<v Speaker 2>Eddings absolutely matches and then Miller there.

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<v Speaker 1>Ahead on the over. So that just goes to show

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<v Speaker 1>you that, you know, sometimes yeah, it's not about the umpire,

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 1>that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I can't find him. I'm still scrolling for

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Miller. Yeah, oh there is. Oh I have him

0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 2>as six and six. So Bill Miller six and six

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<v Speaker 2>on the over and the unders according to the records

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 2>here at covers. So okay, but historically he's under. But

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 2>that what does that say about Bill Miller and Doug

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Ednings and the guys listening to their strike zone is

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 2>like is like you know, a prairie. They give calls

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 2>to the pitcher all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>So, by the way, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you ever go back and watch like Greg Maddox

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 2>and Tom Glavin highlights and all the pitches they got

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 2>off the strike zone?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, no, no, no, those guys used to and it

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 1>was all about what it's better than it used to be.

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 1>So that's a good point because those guys used to,

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<v Speaker 1>like they throw it close at it'd be a strike

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 1>and guy that must have been been annoying from a

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 1>from a hitting standpoint.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I don't want to disparage their legacies,

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:03.160
<v Speaker 2>but good god, I mean, come on. Of course, the

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Levon Hernandez Marlin's World Series game is the greatest example

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 2>of that, and the announcers didn't even say anything like

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 2>Costas barely even reacted like Hernandez would get a strike

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 2>a foot off the plate and Costas is like strike three.

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what you know, it's interesting that you're you're

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:20.720
<v Speaker 1>going back and YouTube's doing a good job of this.

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:25.160
<v Speaker 1>You can see various games in the past, and I

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed doing it. I wish I had a little

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 1>bit more time to watch them. But uh, the All

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Star games I've been watching, I've watched a couple of those,

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's good. It's just it hearkens you back

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>to a different, different age where it's not guys, and

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 1>it's great to have all this data. It's great. From

0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 1>a handicapping samen, Don't get me wrong. I've spent my

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 1>whole adult life and really the last five years being

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 1>able to program, so I could I can manipulate it.

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 1>I think it really helps out. But there's something about

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 1>just watching a game without just enjoying the noise of

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 1>the crowd and they and a really good call of

0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 1>the game by Invinscali that does a lot on the

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 1>on uh on YouTube and listened to him and even Garagiolo,

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 1>who I never really liked, but it just he's got

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 1>such a charm about him. Yeah, and so so that was,

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:11.640
<v Speaker 1>uh that's interested.

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 2>To watch it, I you know. Dion Sanders famously said

0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 2>when he played both sports, he famously said, the best

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 2>sign he ever saw was someone who said there was

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 2>a tribute to the old anti drug commercial where they

0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 2>had a picture of a football and it said Dion's

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 2>brain on crack. And then it had a picture of

0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 2>a baseball, said Dion's brain, and it's Deon's brain. Then

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Deon's brain on crack. So it was the baseball first,

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Deon's brain, that football Deon's bren crack. Which is a

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 2>great way of sort of compartmentalizing how our brains take

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 2>in both of those sports too, right, Like, my first

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 2>love in life was football. It's the first thing I

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:46.960
<v Speaker 2>can remember. I can't explain to you why I loved it.

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 2>My parents were immigrants. They didn't know anything about football,

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 2>but the very first time I saw one Washington Redskins play,

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:57.200
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't think of anything else for the rest of

0:33:57.240 --> 0:33:59.479
<v Speaker 2>my life. Right like my child, I was just like

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:02.840
<v Speaker 2>I was mesmerized by it. I fell in love with

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 2>football in a way that I cannot describe. It's only

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 2>how the human brain that was inside of my head functioned.

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is the greatest thing I've ever seen.

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm obsessed with this. I must soak in all knowledge

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 2>of it. Baseball inhabits a completely different part of the

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 2>brain where And this is why I always say October's

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 2>my favorite month. I love the crack of football on

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 2>the weekends, and then the brain and then the brain

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:30.680
<v Speaker 2>part during the week of the baseball postseason, because baseball

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 2>still to me, appeals to the handicapping and the numbers

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 2>and the baseball card collecting and the nerdiest of ways.

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 2>And I'll just I love it in almost as much,

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 2>but in a completely entirely different way. Anyway, Anyway, keep

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 2>those umpires in mind. What is the place that you

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:52.719
<v Speaker 2>go to? Now? Again, we say this every time, but

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:55.320
<v Speaker 2>let's remind folks where can they get umpire assignments.

0:34:57.160 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, the what's called umpire crew used to used to

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 1>tweet it out, but but honestly, you can do it yourself.

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 1>And it's just all you gotta do is go the

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:10.239
<v Speaker 1>first base guy for the for the night before goes

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:13.320
<v Speaker 1>to home plate, the second base guy goes to first base,

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 1>and so it's really the first base umpire from the

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:18.359
<v Speaker 1>night before. And I don't go to answer your question,

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:21.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't go anywhere except my I'm my own source guilt, right,

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:23.840
<v Speaker 1>But I'm able to pull it in. I'm able to

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 1>pull it in and put it into the model like automatically.

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 2>But how do you know mark who's on first base

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 2>and to know that they're going to be at home

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:32.800
<v Speaker 2>plate the next night? How do you know the names

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 2>of the cruise?

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I pull it? Oh the cruise? Well you can just

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:40.720
<v Speaker 1>pull it. So, so how it's done from a technical standpoint,

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Every morning I run it. Who was the first base umpire? Uh?

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:48.759
<v Speaker 1>Last night? For each for what? When is game? It's

0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:50.359
<v Speaker 1>a series? Game two, three, or four?

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Where are you where you're getting the name MLB dot

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:58.280
<v Speaker 2>com mlbat's yeah, it's it's it's in the box. Wore okay, Okay,

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 2>So then you can just do it. You just do

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 2>the rotation at that point. Gotcha, So you see a

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:03.359
<v Speaker 2>fresh face.

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:05.360
<v Speaker 1>I think that's as we're talking about it as a

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:07.719
<v Speaker 1>pro I'm writing it down as a project for next year.

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll go ahead and do it at base winter dot com.

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 1>And so I mean that's that's I'm doing it anyway.

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:13.920
<v Speaker 1>It might as well just publish it, that's all. So

0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 1>uh yep, okay, cool. Let's go to first five innings. Now,

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 1>this is where it gets a little more proprietary. This

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:26.960
<v Speaker 1>used to be available. Joe. They used to do this.

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I used to do it manually for many years, first

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:33.360
<v Speaker 1>five betting wins, losses, pushes.

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:38.239
<v Speaker 2>Then I wanted to where did Joe Ostrowski work? Where

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:41.320
<v Speaker 2>did he work? Some They used to at odd Shark.

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:45.560
<v Speaker 2>They used to do it at odd Shark for at

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:48.880
<v Speaker 2>least one year, maybe two. And I used to just

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:51.520
<v Speaker 2>use theirs because it allowed me not to have to

0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 2>do it. I don't know that they do it anymore.

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh maybe they do. They actually do still do it.

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that they were doing it. But it's

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:03.919
<v Speaker 2>not Joe anymore. It's a guy named Ethan. I didn't

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:05.799
<v Speaker 2>see that they were doing it, so they actually do

0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 2>tabulate it. I'll actually compare now to what they have

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:13.360
<v Speaker 2>to because I get them now at a completely different spot.

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:19.280
<v Speaker 2>And again they don't really match. They don't really match.

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Who do you have?

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:24.799
<v Speaker 1>Is that we just go with? I think we just

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, I have this data somewhere and.

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, because it's a different date. These are the

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:34.279
<v Speaker 2>odd shark. One is thirteen days behind. So okay, I'll

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:35.759
<v Speaker 2>do with the one that's up to date, up to

0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 2>the minute. Do you do this at all? Mark?

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:43.839
<v Speaker 1>You know I have it somewhere in my code, but

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't have it in front of me.

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:49.120
<v Speaker 2>So okay, I've got Baltimore number one. This is just

0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 2>betting teams first five, Baltimore number one. If you bet

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:55.520
<v Speaker 2>them every day on the first five line, favorite dog,

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:59.400
<v Speaker 2>all of them. They're sixty eight, forty four and thirteen.

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Remember there's pushes, so you'd be up eight point six

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 2>to seven units betting them. Boston is second, you'd be

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:07.839
<v Speaker 2>up eight point three seven units, So eight point six

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 2>seven to eight point three seven, Arizona's third, Phillies fourth,

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:20.319
<v Speaker 2>Milwaukee's five, and now we get under two units at

0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 2>so only the top five teams make you more than

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:27.760
<v Speaker 2>two units on the entire season and first five betting.

0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Think about that. Cincinnati, who's in six, would only have

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 2>you up one point seven five units on the first

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:36.919
<v Speaker 2>five line. If you bet them every single game this year,

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:39.880
<v Speaker 2>you'd be fifty five to fifty one and eighteen. Kansas

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:43.400
<v Speaker 2>City seventh, wait for it, Cleveland is eighth, you'd be

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:47.759
<v Speaker 2>up a unit point six and ninth most profitable up

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:53.440
<v Speaker 2>up zero point eight four units, a tick above zero.

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 2>The Chicago White Sox everybody ninth place, forty six sixty

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:02.759
<v Speaker 2>one and at up zero point eight four units.

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:06.640
<v Speaker 1>By the way, one sixteen more games than they have

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:11.960
<v Speaker 1>on the overall on the first five, then.

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Sixteen, so that's our number. That was the answer to

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:19.480
<v Speaker 2>my question. So how many times have they been a

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:25.359
<v Speaker 2>head after five and still lost? And the answer is sixteen? No,

0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 2>you know I did that because I have twenty two

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:29.879
<v Speaker 2>out of one, twenty five. That's that's what I have.

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:31.839
<v Speaker 2>Twenty two times. You sent this to me, So it's

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 2>twenty two times. Twenty two times this White Sox team

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:38.560
<v Speaker 2>has been a head after five and lost the full game.

0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:41.239
<v Speaker 2>And you you sent this to me because you ran

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:42.879
<v Speaker 2>you ran a query, no I did.

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 1>I just did it this morning. So it's twenty two

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:47.400
<v Speaker 1>times twenty two times zero ahead and they end up

0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:49.440
<v Speaker 1>losing the game. Out of one hundred and twenty five games,

0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:52.680
<v Speaker 1>so that's seventeen point six percent of the time should

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:55.440
<v Speaker 1>be like a true odds of like plus four sixty eight,

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:58.360
<v Speaker 1>and you're usually getting about plus seven twenty five plus

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 1>seven fifty with that particular So it's something that and

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 1>it really it's been it's been lousy the last couple

0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:05.640
<v Speaker 1>of weeks, but before that it was really good. Now

0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:08.719
<v Speaker 1>now even even so at seventeen point six percent plus

0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:10.919
<v Speaker 1>four sixty eight, you can get plus seven to twenty

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:12.879
<v Speaker 1>five on a plus four sixty eight. Yil, I take

0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:13.840
<v Speaker 1>it every day, right.

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:17.920
<v Speaker 2>It's fantastic, It's such I mean again, this is this

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 2>is maybe in all the derivative shows we've done this year,

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:22.799
<v Speaker 2>this has been maybe the most amazing thing. And it's

0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:24.839
<v Speaker 2>not that we don't know that the White Sox think

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:28.520
<v Speaker 2>we get it. Everybody does. But the fact that you'd

0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:32.240
<v Speaker 2>be profitable, however small, you'd be profitable betting the first

0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 2>five you'll obviously be hemorrhaging, what do we say, over

0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 2>forty eight units? You said over fifty one units if

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:42.759
<v Speaker 2>you bet them full game. That's the biggest split we've

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:45.919
<v Speaker 2>ever had on this show, clearly for any team ever.

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:51.360
<v Speaker 2>It's just incredible. It's a fifty two unit change between

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:54.040
<v Speaker 2>the end of the fifth and the end of the game.

0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 2>That just is remarkable. And what does that say That

0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 2>says their starting pitching is, you know, pretty okay, and

0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:05.680
<v Speaker 2>their bullpen is the worst thing on God's Green Earth

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:07.759
<v Speaker 2>is basically much of that.

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And what it says to me, Gil, and we've

0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:12.359
<v Speaker 1>been talking about this for the last two years. It's

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 1>hard to put together, but I think as a handicaper,

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:16.959
<v Speaker 1>I think as a guy who you know, I would

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:19.359
<v Speaker 1>think people would listen maybe sometimes to what I say,

0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe all the time, but sure of what I say.

0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:27.360
<v Speaker 1>I think that the ideal way to handicap baseball is

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:30.319
<v Speaker 1>to handicap the first five and then to handicap the

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 1>last four. And I think that that's something that of

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:37.120
<v Speaker 1>course I'm in the process of being able to do that,

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 1>but I need to kind of step that up because

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:43.080
<v Speaker 1>that's that's pretty pretty darn amazing. But like, not only that,

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:44.960
<v Speaker 1>if you had if you were equipped with the first

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:47.600
<v Speaker 1>five model and a back end model if you will,

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:50.600
<v Speaker 1>you'd be able to use that with live betting too.

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:52.920
<v Speaker 1>But that's really interesting that we're talking about that because

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:55.800
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of confirming what what we've talked about for

0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:56.600
<v Speaker 1>for a long time. Goal.

0:41:56.719 --> 0:42:00.080
<v Speaker 2>So there's a few things there. One, you know, we

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 2>talked about this double result thing. How many places offer

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:06.880
<v Speaker 2>the pre flop double result of White Sox ahead, White

0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Sox lose first five full game.

0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, if you can have an outlet that has props builder,

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 1>that's worldwide. I've seen it. Yeah, they're here nationally. It's

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:20.719
<v Speaker 1>an available market you can get at most places. I

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:23.640
<v Speaker 1>would say that you can. If you had three sports books,

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:25.520
<v Speaker 1>at least two will have them guilt ok o.

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:28.839
<v Speaker 2>And then of course there's the live betting opportunities which

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 2>you just mentioned, which is the other way to do

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 2>that is if you don't have that available to you,

0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:34.840
<v Speaker 2>is you know they're winning and then you bet the

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:36.479
<v Speaker 2>other team. A lot of people have just been doing

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 2>that a lot this year. The other thing you bring

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 2>up is more fascinating to me beyond the white souce,

0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 2>which is you got a handicap the first five, then

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:45.440
<v Speaker 2>you got to handicap the rest of the game. And

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:47.560
<v Speaker 2>you do a great job with bullpens, you know, because

0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 2>you really break it down not just by closer, you

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:52.000
<v Speaker 2>do the underbelly of the bullpen too, which I think

0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:55.840
<v Speaker 2>is I think that, more than anything, is the key

0:42:55.960 --> 0:43:00.600
<v Speaker 2>to baseball betting. It is also the reason I got

0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:02.960
<v Speaker 2>out of daily baseball betting. Right. So for those who

0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 2>have been with us long enough, they remember a time where,

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:11.439
<v Speaker 2>through the year twenty sixteen, Previson, I was a baseball better.

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 2>First all, I was, like you Mark, every day, my

0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:17.399
<v Speaker 2>obsession was just betting baseball, and it immersed I mean,

0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:19.279
<v Speaker 2>you know how it is. It takes over your life.

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:21.880
<v Speaker 2>That's all you think about all the time. You know

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:24.319
<v Speaker 2>every number, about everything when it comes to Major League

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:27.080
<v Speaker 2>Baseball starters. But when the game started to change and

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:30.479
<v Speaker 2>starters started to come out earlier, or for God's sakes

0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:34.479
<v Speaker 2>again openers existed for some teams, then I no longer

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:38.000
<v Speaker 2>and especially then Vson happened, I no longer had the

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:42.759
<v Speaker 2>time to properly bet baseball because also you had to

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:45.799
<v Speaker 2>start to release them the night before to really get

0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:48.440
<v Speaker 2>the best of the number, because the markets were moving

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:50.880
<v Speaker 2>quicker too. So as a confluence of all those events,

0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:54.560
<v Speaker 2>I just couldn't do it more. And your ability that

0:43:54.640 --> 0:43:57.760
<v Speaker 2>you have the time to actually go in and assess

0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 2>those bullpens. That's why I think people should listen to

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:03.480
<v Speaker 2>your show every day at bet us, and they should

0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:05.600
<v Speaker 2>listen to more than half of what you say, Mark,

0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 2>because you actually have a wisdom that a mere mortal

0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:10.839
<v Speaker 2>cannot possibly have if they have other things to do.

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, I appreciate that, you know, it's it's about definitely

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:17.120
<v Speaker 1>a bandwidth issue, and that's one of the reasons. And

0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 1>it took me a while. You know, I started learning

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Python about six years ago, so forty eight years old,

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:25.200
<v Speaker 1>and the brain doesn't have as much plasticity as it

0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:27.720
<v Speaker 1>does when you're forty eight years old. But it's taking

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:29.839
<v Speaker 1>me six years and I feel right now comfortable being

0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:32.520
<v Speaker 1>able to pull this data and run money Carlo simulations,

0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:35.640
<v Speaker 1>be able to okay, well, let's see half first five,

0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 1>last four, been being able to do that. So for me,

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:42.960
<v Speaker 1>it's exciting, it's and and so if you do listen

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:44.680
<v Speaker 1>to half of what I say, I think I think

0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be doing pretty good.

0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:49.879
<v Speaker 2>Gil, I think. So, what's our takeaway from the first

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:52.520
<v Speaker 2>five Beyond the White Sox do we feel like, well.

0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:54.360
<v Speaker 1>One thing that you did that you that you mentioned

0:44:54.400 --> 0:44:57.640
<v Speaker 1>and and I think it's easier to handicap first five

0:44:57.680 --> 0:45:00.200
<v Speaker 1>because you don't have to use the bullpits. Right. Thing

0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:02.120
<v Speaker 1>that you mentioned is is you had to go. I

0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:05.080
<v Speaker 1>think there's only maybe what eight teams that were were

0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:07.799
<v Speaker 1>positive on the on uh yes, setting.

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about that for a second.

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:13.239
<v Speaker 1>So you have a bigger spread, You're you're for the

0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:17.239
<v Speaker 1>most strata dealing with Yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, exactly.

0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Twenty cents as opposed to ten. Let's say that. But

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:24.440
<v Speaker 2>that's that should be. And again, no one bets first

0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:26.759
<v Speaker 2>fives this way, but that should tell you something, right

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 2>that there are only one, two, three, four, five? Was

0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:33.839
<v Speaker 2>it one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven.

0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:38.319
<v Speaker 2>I guess there's eleven profitable, but six of those are

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:40.759
<v Speaker 2>less than two units for the whole season, right, So

0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:43.560
<v Speaker 2>it's really only and the fifth is only like two

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:46.080
<v Speaker 2>and a half units. So it's really like, it's just

0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 2>not that profitable of a thing to do. It's not

0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:50.759
<v Speaker 2>as profitable as we think it is.

0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 1>It's harder to beat.

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:54.760
<v Speaker 2>It's harder to beat because of the stratle you've.

0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 1>You've got to really pick your spots. And and for me,

0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:02.319
<v Speaker 1>from a proper ability standpoint, without getting into it, it's

0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:05.600
<v Speaker 1>easier to predict. You would think that the sports books

0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:08.279
<v Speaker 1>would be a little bit more competitive with it ted,

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:10.160
<v Speaker 1>and maybe we'll see that in the next few years.

0:46:10.200 --> 0:46:10.799
<v Speaker 1>Ago I don't know.

0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, let's get to the let's get to

0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:15.920
<v Speaker 2>the first five. Excuse me, not the first five, the

0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:18.759
<v Speaker 2>first inning. These are super duper proprietary. You won't find

0:46:18.760 --> 0:46:20.279
<v Speaker 2>this anywhere else. A lot of people like to bet

0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:23.120
<v Speaker 2>first innings. Me and Jason Winingarten used to make a

0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:25.440
<v Speaker 2>cottage industry of it. We would bet yes no runs

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:30.200
<v Speaker 2>and in those days we did it betting betting yes

0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:33.160
<v Speaker 2>runs against aces was the most profitable thing ever in

0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:35.920
<v Speaker 2>the prices were such. Now there's a whole cottage industry

0:46:35.960 --> 0:46:39.440
<v Speaker 2>of people betting the nose, which has been profitable for them.

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:43.240
<v Speaker 2>So it's just a different it's a different environment these days.

0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:49.440
<v Speaker 2>But if we look at pictures that have performed the worst,

0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:53.640
<v Speaker 2>let's start there. First innings this year minimum fifty five

0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:57.440
<v Speaker 2>played appearances against who do you have? Who do you have?

0:46:57.480 --> 0:46:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Because you do this as well, right.

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can, I can definitely do it. The one

0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:03.560
<v Speaker 1>thing that I need to do is I need to

0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:06.759
<v Speaker 1>put my fifty five innings pitch, because that's that's where

0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:09.440
<v Speaker 1>we're different sometimes, right I did.

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:12.239
<v Speaker 2>I just randomly set fifty five plate appearances again, but.

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:13.960
<v Speaker 1>This, this is kind of a cool guy. Yeah, so

0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:16.680
<v Speaker 1>we got we got fifty five plate appearances and you

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:19.400
<v Speaker 1>use on base percentage? Is that I do?

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:21.560
<v Speaker 2>For whatever reason, I decided, I always land on on

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:23.000
<v Speaker 2>base percentage, just the way I do it.

0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I'm looking at talk about the padres Joe

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Musgrove for sixty seven on base percentage? First first inning?

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 2>How many plate appearances against? Because I don't have Musgrove

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:34.120
<v Speaker 2>show up.

0:47:34.360 --> 0:47:36.200
<v Speaker 1>He's got sixty plates.

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So why don't I have musk Grove? Oh I

0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:44.360
<v Speaker 2>don't have musk Grove. You know who I have? I

0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:46.319
<v Speaker 2>have Keaton Win as the worst.

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:48.799
<v Speaker 1>He is up there, Gil four thirty three, he's number

0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:49.479
<v Speaker 1>four thirty.

0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:51.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh So for some reason, I don't have musk Grove,

0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:54.040
<v Speaker 2>but I have Keaton Win four thirty three. Then I

0:47:54.080 --> 0:47:58.160
<v Speaker 2>have Logan Allen for twenty five, and then I have

0:47:58.239 --> 0:47:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Hunter Brown, Chris Bassett.

0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:03.320
<v Speaker 1>They are all up there. Gombers up there.

0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:05.120
<v Speaker 2>Too, or fifth for me?

0:48:05.239 --> 0:48:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Okay, uh yeah, so that's why not mus Grove? Yeah, yeah,

0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:14.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Gil, I don't know.

0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Let me reduce it to fifty. Let me see what

0:48:16.560 --> 0:48:19.319
<v Speaker 2>happens if I do fifty, does musk Grove show up

0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:27.440
<v Speaker 2>at fifty? Hold on, let's see what happens? No, what

0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:29.440
<v Speaker 2>do I have a musk Grove problem in this? I

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:32.240
<v Speaker 2>got ty block? That is the worst from who.

0:48:32.120 --> 0:48:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Is your source that you used? You are you? Are

0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:35.200
<v Speaker 1>you your own source?

0:48:35.680 --> 0:48:37.520
<v Speaker 2>I am my own source. So do I have a

0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:41.920
<v Speaker 2>musk Grove problem? Is the question? What did I What

0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:42.359
<v Speaker 2>do I have?

0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Is?

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:45.440
<v Speaker 2>What's the glitch with musk Grove? Anyway? I trust you

0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:47.279
<v Speaker 2>with musk Grove. But this is the first time I

0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:51.920
<v Speaker 2>have just had a complete omission on something that's interesting.

0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Where is okay? I see? So if I reduce it

0:48:57.520 --> 0:49:01.719
<v Speaker 2>to forty five, then Musgrove starts showing up. But when

0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:04.400
<v Speaker 2>I increase it to fifty against anyway, this is not

0:49:04.440 --> 0:49:06.800
<v Speaker 2>exciting for people to listen to. Anyway you have Musgrove

0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:08.520
<v Speaker 2>was number one, But we have all the other same

0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:15.400
<v Speaker 2>names that are up there, which is again Keaton, Win, Logan,

0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:18.800
<v Speaker 2>Allen Hunter, Brown, Chris Bassett, Austin Gomber, who else you

0:49:18.840 --> 0:49:19.359
<v Speaker 2>got up there?

0:49:21.360 --> 0:49:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Gomber, Brown, Logan, Allen Casey, Mize he's six. And Griffin Henning,

0:49:28.400 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 1>a guy who I like to bet against with the

0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:31.200
<v Speaker 1>bad he's seven.

0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we got all the same names except Muskrove.

0:49:33.320 --> 0:49:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what.

0:49:33.640 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 2>Happened to my musk Grove, but it's bothering you because

0:49:36.719 --> 0:49:39.399
<v Speaker 2>we have the exact same putout output otherwise. Right when

0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:43.080
<v Speaker 2>Alan Brown, Basset, Gomber, Miz Canning, I know what happened, and.

0:49:43.120 --> 0:49:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Less Musgroves on the on the injured list and they're

0:49:46.120 --> 0:49:49.680
<v Speaker 1>not they're not populating that because he's injured. That's the

0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:50.600
<v Speaker 1>only thing I can think.

0:49:50.480 --> 0:49:55.080
<v Speaker 2>Of, all right, best first inning, one forty three on

0:49:55.239 --> 0:50:00.000
<v Speaker 2>base against first inning Tyler Glass. Now Tyler Glass, that's

0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:00.360
<v Speaker 2>I have.

0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:03.000
<v Speaker 1>That's funny. That's how we're missing one guy. That's so funny,

0:50:03.239 --> 0:50:09.000
<v Speaker 1>uh In glassdow Gosh? That so how difference, yes, how

0:50:09.040 --> 0:50:11.839
<v Speaker 1>big of a difference does that make to the all

0:50:11.920 --> 0:50:14.479
<v Speaker 1>the playoff calculations? Is this guy gonna come back?

0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:19.439
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, Todder Glass now one forty three on base

0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:22.440
<v Speaker 2>against the next best is Renaldo Lopez of the Braves

0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:25.200
<v Speaker 2>at one ninety four, and then Dean Kramer of the

0:50:25.239 --> 0:50:29.080
<v Speaker 2>O's on the leaflet two hundred against interesting.

0:50:29.160 --> 0:50:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is exactly what I have.

0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:34.360
<v Speaker 2>And then by the way, Scooball followed by Zach Wheeler

0:50:34.360 --> 0:50:38.160
<v Speaker 2>and showed him Managa and then Crochet. So some of

0:50:38.160 --> 0:50:41.520
<v Speaker 2>the people you would expect to be up on that list.

0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:44.200
<v Speaker 1>You're size except for Musgrove.

0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:46.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know Musgrove. What do I have against Musgrove?

0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:49.319
<v Speaker 2>He's not in this thing. That's really weird. That's the

0:50:49.320 --> 0:50:53.160
<v Speaker 2>first time that's ever happened. Where do I have Muskgrove?

0:50:53.800 --> 0:50:55.799
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't even exist, So I must have a plate

0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:59.560
<v Speaker 2>appearances against glitch with him.

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:02.279
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I don't know, that's weird. I mean maybe maybe

0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:03.759
<v Speaker 1>there's something universal about that.

0:51:03.760 --> 0:51:04.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:51:04.080 --> 0:51:07.280
<v Speaker 1>We'll see Joe Muscrow will be the World Series MVP,

0:51:07.719 --> 0:51:09.560
<v Speaker 1>and so like, I don't maybe there's something there.

0:51:09.640 --> 0:51:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Do do I have a basis on balls thing with him?

0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:14.880
<v Speaker 2>That makes like I don't know because I have played

0:51:14.880 --> 0:51:20.879
<v Speaker 2>appearances he shows up at forty five, but he doesn't

0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 2>show up at fifty five anyway, anything there in the

0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:26.840
<v Speaker 2>first inning stuff, So so the biggest thing of the picture.

0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:31.240
<v Speaker 2>I like your comment earlier in terms of like a fade,

0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:36.200
<v Speaker 2>in terms of a picture, is our old guy number

0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:41.800
<v Speaker 2>eighty three for the Miami Marlins. That's that's a pretty

0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:45.520
<v Speaker 2>that's a pretty awesome thing. Beloso, your guy.

0:51:46.520 --> 0:51:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Uh, it's something. This guy's amazing. I mean, he's doing

0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:51.520
<v Speaker 1>it and so like that's one of the things if

0:51:51.560 --> 0:51:53.600
<v Speaker 1>you ever listened to radio, I love listening to the

0:51:53.680 --> 0:51:57.560
<v Speaker 1>radio broadcasts more than the TV because you get really

0:51:57.600 --> 0:52:00.560
<v Speaker 1>good insight on that. And I've just never heard he's

0:52:00.760 --> 0:52:03.919
<v Speaker 1>calling guy a Beer League pitcher using smoking mirrors, and

0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:05.920
<v Speaker 1>so I can hardly wait till the guy starts.

0:52:05.960 --> 0:52:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Now, was that the home? Was that the home announcer saying.

0:52:08.239 --> 0:52:11.880
<v Speaker 1>That that's how he rose? Yep, exactly. He's been Howie

0:52:11.920 --> 0:52:14.439
<v Speaker 1>Rose has been in a game gosh a long time,

0:52:14.440 --> 0:52:17.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe since the early eight I don't know when he started,

0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:19.920
<v Speaker 1>but he's been at least thirty years. Gill really good.

0:52:19.960 --> 0:52:22.880
<v Speaker 1>The The BET's one of my favorite radio broadcast.

0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Gill Well Baoso has pitched thirty three innings this year

0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:29.120
<v Speaker 2>for the Marlins. Beoso thirty three innings two point four

0:52:29.120 --> 0:52:33.319
<v Speaker 2>to five ERA, but his expected ERA is three point

0:52:33.400 --> 0:52:36.239
<v Speaker 2>ninety nine and his EXPIP is four point eight two.

0:52:38.000 --> 0:52:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Why because his home run to fly ball rate is

0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:44.920
<v Speaker 2>five point six percent, so that's super low. His strand

0:52:45.000 --> 0:52:47.520
<v Speaker 2>rate is eighty four point nine percent, which would be

0:52:47.719 --> 0:52:50.480
<v Speaker 2>historical if you spread it out over tons of innings,

0:52:51.200 --> 0:52:53.640
<v Speaker 2>and then his bab babit is fortunate, but it's not

0:52:53.719 --> 0:52:56.719
<v Speaker 2>that fortune. It's two fifty eight. So okay, beoso, that's

0:52:56.719 --> 0:52:57.839
<v Speaker 2>a fade for the next time.

0:52:58.400 --> 0:53:00.840
<v Speaker 1>It's not a whole like I've seen. I've seen guys

0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:04.120
<v Speaker 1>with like after six starts have like a three e

0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:06.480
<v Speaker 1>r A and like a seven. Yeah, you know, basement

0:53:06.520 --> 0:53:07.520
<v Speaker 1>or ear So it's not like.

0:53:07.560 --> 0:53:08.479
<v Speaker 2>Huge, but like terror.

0:53:08.560 --> 0:53:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I think if you look at like the stuff plus

0:53:11.160 --> 0:53:13.640
<v Speaker 1>and then you just look at the guy pitch. I mean,

0:53:13.920 --> 0:53:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I totally agree with what what how he rose said,

0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:21.040
<v Speaker 1>he's to the eye, he's just awful. So anyway, maybe

0:53:21.080 --> 0:53:24.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe caution, there's no such thing as a luck, but

0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:28.120
<v Speaker 1>I would say this below so that against this guy

0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:29.319
<v Speaker 1>the next time out, Gil, I just.

0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:31.560
<v Speaker 2>Love that you the most mathematical guy in the world,

0:53:31.560 --> 0:53:33.160
<v Speaker 2>the most numbers the guy in the world. Mark Worshit

0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:35.759
<v Speaker 2>is like sometimes it's the eye test. This is an

0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:36.200
<v Speaker 2>eye test.

0:53:36.280 --> 0:53:40.759
<v Speaker 1>Play ah, yeah, this guy, this good. I don't know.

0:53:40.800 --> 0:53:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Maybe again, like it's happened to me with Blackburn, Marty

0:53:45.360 --> 0:53:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Perez had a first half couple of years back that

0:53:48.719 --> 0:53:51.760
<v Speaker 1>was just unbelievable, and now he's regressed to the Marty

0:53:51.800 --> 0:53:55.759
<v Speaker 1>Perez that you know. Uh, but it's so funny, you know.

0:53:56.000 --> 0:53:59.680
<v Speaker 1>For all of that, Gil, remember Josh Tomlin and you

0:53:59.719 --> 0:54:02.200
<v Speaker 1>would be against Josh thumbin all the time. He at

0:54:02.320 --> 0:54:06.160
<v Speaker 1>least had some like decent metrics, like he had good location,

0:54:06.400 --> 0:54:09.279
<v Speaker 1>good command, and like so at least he had something.

0:54:09.320 --> 0:54:11.320
<v Speaker 1>But I can't even say that about this guy, Gil,

0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:12.439
<v Speaker 1>I just have.

0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:15.239
<v Speaker 2>To tribute paying tribute to Martin Perez because for the

0:54:15.360 --> 0:54:17.600
<v Speaker 2>length of time that you have you and I have

0:54:17.719 --> 0:54:21.200
<v Speaker 2>done this podcast, he has been a major league pitcher

0:54:21.320 --> 0:54:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Martin Perez, which is incredible that that's amazing that that

0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:28.720
<v Speaker 2>dude has made it this far. What is his life?

0:54:28.760 --> 0:54:31.759
<v Speaker 2>What is his lifetime era four point four to five

0:54:31.800 --> 0:54:34.560
<v Speaker 2>and yet he's still a major league pitcher all these

0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:38.880
<v Speaker 2>years because he had that one year, right, he had

0:54:38.920 --> 0:54:42.040
<v Speaker 2>that one year in Texas. I mean, he's it was.

0:54:42.400 --> 0:54:44.480
<v Speaker 1>He was an All Star and maybe like like his

0:54:44.600 --> 0:54:47.759
<v Speaker 1>numbers weren't bad either, Like like I had to eat

0:54:47.800 --> 0:54:49.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of crow there because I bet against him

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, but he I mean, he got to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where I wouldn't bet against him because his numbers

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<v Speaker 1>were decent. In fact, I might have bet on him

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of times, but then he's lost that. But

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to him. You know, I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>this came to my came to my because we used

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<v Speaker 1>to always like come up with a guy like who

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<v Speaker 1>is the word like from a sabermetric standpoint, Geo Gonzalez.

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<v Speaker 1>That guy used to walk like five guys a game.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so bad. And he yet he pitched, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and he'd win games. He'd figure out a way despite

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<v Speaker 2>all that. Mark good stuff because we got a we

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<v Speaker 2>gotta fade on Bioso. We got some umpires that we

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<v Speaker 2>need to keep an eye out for. And interesting stuff

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<v Speaker 2>about again the Rockies in the home road splits. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean again, it's just it's ridiculous, tied and tried and true,

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<v Speaker 2>and I do think you know, the Nationals have the

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<v Speaker 2>Nationals and the White Sox, two teams that you would

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<v Speaker 2>not expect. Obviously we talked about the White Size more,

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<v Speaker 2>but two teams that you would not expect to be

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<v Speaker 2>as good as they have been first five for the

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<v Speaker 2>entire year, it has kept up. And so when we

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<v Speaker 2>think about is it is it predictive? Well, at this

0:55:53.880 --> 0:55:56.680
<v Speaker 2>point one hundred and twenty games in one hundred twenty plus,

0:55:57.560 --> 0:55:59.960
<v Speaker 2>it feels like it's kind of gonna go the whole season,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I mean, and if you run the numbers right,

0:56:04.440 --> 0:56:06.839
<v Speaker 1>you're like, okay, well they're right in the market. From

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<v Speaker 1>an over understandpoint, I think they're setting the market right

0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:12.800
<v Speaker 1>out forty game skill. Let's right about how I have it.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, at some point, is it just like is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it not a number sick? Is it a chemistry thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it just a just a universal like this team's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be the worst team of all time?

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<v Speaker 2>You're talking about? Can you talking about the White Sox? Yeah,

0:56:25.000 --> 0:56:26.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's just ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's really exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, there's never been a they may set the record,

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<v Speaker 2>they may set the record, which again, worst I add

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<v Speaker 2>this up. Let me see if I can find it in

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<v Speaker 2>my notes. But the White Sox right now, let's close

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<v Speaker 2>it with this, just because I'm curious. The White Sox

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<v Speaker 2>right now as we do this podcast, on Monday morning,

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<v Speaker 2>August the nineteenth are thirty and ninety five, thirty and

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<v Speaker 2>ninety five. That is a win percentage of two forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Win percentage of two forty. Now, when we go to

0:57:01.800 --> 0:57:07.040
<v Speaker 2>the historicals on a team like the White Sox, you're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to two things. On a one hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 2>two game schedule, will they have the worst record? And

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<v Speaker 2>then just period, will they have the worst percentage in

0:57:15.600 --> 0:57:17.760
<v Speaker 2>terms of the worst record. Again, two forty is what

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<v Speaker 2>they're winning percentage is right now as we head into

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<v Speaker 2>the home stretch of the season, and I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get the exact numbers here that I had up for

0:57:25.840 --> 0:57:27.760
<v Speaker 2>the White Sox, and we say, if I can find it,

0:57:27.800 --> 0:57:33.000
<v Speaker 2>as we do this, okay, the A's who are I mean,

0:57:33.040 --> 0:57:34.680
<v Speaker 2>it's not even, It's not close the White Sox. The

0:57:34.720 --> 0:57:37.480
<v Speaker 2>White Sox were actually worse, right they were two thirty five.

0:57:37.720 --> 0:57:40.680
<v Speaker 2>There were twenty seven and eighty eight some time ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Here recently, now they're to forty winning percentage that was

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<v Speaker 2>two thirty five. The nineteen sixteen Philadelphia Athletics were thirty

0:57:49.000 --> 0:57:51.520
<v Speaker 2>six and one seventeen. They had a two thirty five

0:57:51.560 --> 0:57:54.600
<v Speaker 2>winning percentage. The White Sox are two forty right now,

0:57:54.800 --> 0:57:56.560
<v Speaker 2>so they're a little ahead of the pace for the

0:57:56.560 --> 0:57:59.040
<v Speaker 2>worst winning percentage of all time, the worst in one

0:57:59.120 --> 0:58:01.240
<v Speaker 2>hundred and sixty two games schedule, though they were actually

0:58:01.280 --> 0:58:04.240
<v Speaker 2>ahead of, which was the Mets in nineteen sixty two

0:58:04.240 --> 0:58:07.400
<v Speaker 2>who went forty one point twenty and one for a

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<v Speaker 2>two forty eight winning percentage.

0:58:09.320 --> 0:58:11.240
<v Speaker 1>I guess they got a tie in there. I love

0:58:11.280 --> 0:58:12.120
<v Speaker 1>that they had a.

0:58:12.040 --> 0:58:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Tie in there and they had one game that didn't

0:58:13.960 --> 0:58:17.840
<v Speaker 2>get played. The White Socks are are worse than that,

0:58:18.120 --> 0:58:21.040
<v Speaker 2>So they're better than the worst winning percentage of all time,

0:58:21.680 --> 0:58:26.480
<v Speaker 2>the nineteen sixteen Philadelphia Athletics, but they are excuse me,

0:58:26.720 --> 0:58:30.240
<v Speaker 2>they're better than the Philadelphia Athletics of nineteen sixteen, but

0:58:30.280 --> 0:58:33.040
<v Speaker 2>they're worse than the nineteen sixty two Mets in terms

0:58:33.080 --> 0:58:35.240
<v Speaker 2>of one hundred and sixty two game schedule. That's what

0:58:35.240 --> 0:58:36.840
<v Speaker 2>we're dealing with with this team right now.

0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:40.240
<v Speaker 1>And they're right in the market at forty games forty

0:58:40.240 --> 0:58:42.680
<v Speaker 1>and a half games, so that is right on the

0:58:42.760 --> 0:58:45.040
<v Speaker 1>number you can get that, yeah, And I have them

0:58:45.080 --> 0:58:48.360
<v Speaker 1>at forty one point eight, so they the base Winter

0:58:48.440 --> 0:58:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Nembers said that they won't be the worst team of

0:58:50.360 --> 0:58:53.240
<v Speaker 1>all time, but they're I mean, there's room for argument

0:58:53.320 --> 0:58:55.760
<v Speaker 1>because that's not that big of a gap. Forty one

0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:59.280
<v Speaker 1>point a too forty. So anyway, that's that's kind of

0:58:59.280 --> 0:59:02.720
<v Speaker 1>how it shakes out there by by this team. It's

0:59:02.760 --> 0:59:04.600
<v Speaker 1>like you just you just think about it, like, okay,

0:59:04.600 --> 0:59:06.280
<v Speaker 1>if they're gonna win thirty three percent of their games

0:59:06.600 --> 0:59:08.960
<v Speaker 1>plus two hundred and they're winning twenty four percent of

0:59:08.960 --> 0:59:11.439
<v Speaker 1>their games, so like there's more to it than even

0:59:11.520 --> 0:59:12.320
<v Speaker 1>how crappy they are.

0:59:12.360 --> 0:59:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Gil, do you remember what what your pre flop number

0:59:14.560 --> 0:59:15.400
<v Speaker 2>was on them?

0:59:16.640 --> 0:59:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I have it somewhere. It was sixty sixty, maybe sixty

0:59:19.880 --> 0:59:22.840
<v Speaker 1>two or something like that. Yeah, okay, I don't have it.

0:59:22.880 --> 0:59:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't have it in front of front in front

0:59:24.320 --> 0:59:24.480
<v Speaker 1>of me.

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<v Speaker 2>But hey, by the way, how did you how did

0:59:26.000 --> 0:59:28.360
<v Speaker 2>your your pre flop season win total bets? Are they

0:59:28.400 --> 0:59:28.880
<v Speaker 2>doing well?

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing okay. You know, I'm losing with the Rays,

0:59:33.480 --> 0:59:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm winning with the Twins. There's a couple ones that

0:59:36.800 --> 0:59:39.520
<v Speaker 1>that are like, damn, kind of I'm kind of like

0:59:39.840 --> 0:59:42.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to see what happens. But the one that

0:59:43.120 --> 0:59:46.200
<v Speaker 1>the futures that are really paying off for that one,

0:59:46.320 --> 0:59:48.600
<v Speaker 1>that one's a plus five fifty I think, and then

0:59:48.640 --> 0:59:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I've got the Brewers. That's the other win total that

0:59:51.120 --> 0:59:54.080
<v Speaker 1>I have. That's that's almost a winner right now. But

0:59:54.440 --> 0:59:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I have them at plus six hundreds. So I've got

0:59:56.960 --> 0:59:59.080
<v Speaker 1>some good ones that we got. I've got some cruddy ones.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still holding out of raise though. The Rays are

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<v Speaker 1>like eighty four ish I think, and so that sweep

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<v Speaker 1>of the Dbacks kind of helped. So I was leveraged

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit on the on the Rays and that

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of a bad call. But I think we

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<v Speaker 1>need to when we're introspective, we need to tell people

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<v Speaker 1>when we're good. We also need to tell people when

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<v Speaker 1>we're not so good. With the Rays, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of missed on gil.

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<v Speaker 2>I had two season wins. One was the over. My

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<v Speaker 2>favorite one was the over on the Padres, which is

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<v Speaker 2>cruising home, right. They were they were eighty and a half,

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<v Speaker 2>so they only had to go five hundred. They're they're

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<v Speaker 2>cruising at this point. The Rangers were my only over

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<v Speaker 2>last year, right, my only season win to display. But

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<v Speaker 2>I did have a second one this year that is

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<v Speaker 2>not so good, which is the Cubs over. They really,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they got to get to eighty five wins

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<v Speaker 2>and they're they're trending below five hundred right now, so

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<v Speaker 2>they got work to do if they're gonna get to

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<v Speaker 2>eighty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, where are they at, like eighty eighty

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<v Speaker 1>ish eighty one? Let's see what I have.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean right now on pace for like seventy nine

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<v Speaker 2>or eighty, right, but it's like.

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<v Speaker 1>This, we've got eighty, I've got eighty in the model.

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<v Speaker 1>But hey, they're still close. There's still there's still hope

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<v Speaker 1>for that. I was opposed to you on that podres play. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>well I I'm all podres right now. What they've done

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty good. And I think I put that out

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<v Speaker 1>before they got ceased too, So that's nothing that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you put him out too early. Yeah, that that's

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<v Speaker 1>a big difference. That's that Dylan Ceases has been. He's

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<v Speaker 1>been quite the pitcher this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Go Mark. Always a pleasure. This is our you know,

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully we can do a we can do a pre

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<v Speaker 2>playoffs one, but you know what, it's always right in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of football season, so I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I have the time to do it. We don't usually

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<v Speaker 2>do it in recent years, but I can't say how

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<v Speaker 2>much I appreciate it, man, just I can't say it enough.

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<v Speaker 2>These are always so.

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<v Speaker 1>Much more pleasure. It's my pleasure. Good to know that

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<v Speaker 1>we've been around for as long as Martin Perez.

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<v Speaker 2>Martin, Martin Perez, Tildy. Yeah, we can't have him retire

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<v Speaker 2>because that means I guess we have to. So please

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<v Speaker 2>please keep pitching, Martin.

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<v Speaker 1>Perez, I got to pitch pitch forever.

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