1 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Hey man, y'all gotta stop naming y'all children these old names. 2 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: I do not want to pick up babysit, rock or 3 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: feed Derek. Derek is a twenty eight year old doctor graduate. 4 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: There should be no reason on one month old is 5 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: named Brenda when we all know Brenda's about that life 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: and fights in shell station parking lots. Why do I 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: have the babysit Diane when Diane has her on grand kids? 8 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 2: Good, good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the Not 9 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: Dungs Podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, May twenty 10 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: sixth Here we are back in the Classic Factory. I'm 11 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: Ge skeetzing alongside me as always, we. 12 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 3: Got task onists. What's up? 13 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: We got our top shot, hot boy struggling with his 14 00:00:54,880 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: ear piece. Hey Trey Kirby, Hey hey, we got back 15 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: here in the factory. International man of Mystery taking it 16 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: to the Max Leellis friend and last, certainly not least 17 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: over yonder super producer JD. Hello, there is and here 18 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: we are. Shout out to the stream team. Joining us 19 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: live right now on YouTube. Hit that like button, Subscribe 20 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: to No Dunks on YouTube, comment away, share the show 21 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: email in your NBA questions to No Dunks at the 22 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 2: Athletic dot com and we see TK who has finally 23 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: figured out his zero piece. I'll get over there. 24 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, the silicone tip got stuck in my canal. 25 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, thanks. He's rocking the Vancouver jersey that 26 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: we posted yesterday over at No dunks dot com. 27 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 28 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 2: Look at the detail he's pointing out here on the trim. 29 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: But that one, that one's gone people, Sorry suckers. Yeah, 30 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: the Vancouver Grizzlies jerseys sold out yesterday in like four 31 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: or five hours, So thank you to everybody that bought one. 32 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: They are they are fire. But but but the Denver jersey. 33 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: There's a few left all right, in sizes large and 34 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: extra large. That's all that remained. So go to no 35 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: dunks dot com if you want one of those sweet 36 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: No Dunks Nuggets jerseys. You were rocking one of those yesterday, 37 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: Warred on. 38 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 4: The show yesterday wore it to do errands around the 39 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 4: city yesterday as well. Dropped Yams off to get her 40 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 4: nails trim. So you know, I had to walk over 41 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 4: to Target find a bag of Lebron James Chips twice. 42 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 4: Two separate guys yell to be hey, man, I like 43 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 4: that jersey. 44 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: Wow. 45 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 4: I was like facts. One guy even followed up, you know, 46 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 4: like I was getting in my car, he was sitting 47 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 4: in his car. Were car with each other, and he 48 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 4: said to me, all right, man, I like that jersey. 49 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 4: And that's what we're teaching them too. No dunks back 50 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 4: like when we played, and none of this patting they're 51 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 4: wearing either. 52 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: We're going back old school. 53 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 5: I was like, you must have, you must have, gotta 54 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 5: have it. Just had a big hot. 55 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: Join the club to get nuggets. I wanted to give 56 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 2: her the jersey off my back, right, the jersey. 57 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 4: I'm going back to Target today. 58 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: There's a probably less than fourteen left at this point, 59 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: so go to No Duns dot com if you want 60 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: to get one of those jerseys and thanks. Can't everybody 61 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: that's already grabbed one, breaking tea knocking these out of 62 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: the park. They are very very nice. 63 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 3: Uh. 64 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: Later today, over on the No Buffs YouTube feed, Trey 65 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: JD myself in a special guest. I'm not going to 66 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: say who it is. Uh, it's gonna break down last 67 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: night's Survivor finale, which was you know, we're talking three 68 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: hours last night so lots to talk about. That's gonna 69 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: go live around two pm Eastern here on Thursday over 70 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: on No Buffs on the YouTube feed. 71 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 3: And laughing at this graphic that we're looking at. 72 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: Proof care serious, small grig, big red mouth, wide open open. 73 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: I believe this is when mister Jeff said, uh, your 74 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: your reward will include meat sauce. Do you like pasta? 75 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 3: I called it? What about meat sock? 76 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: He went, he went pasta, Then he said garlic bread, 77 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: Then he. 78 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 3: Went garlic bread like Michael garlic. 79 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 2: Then he said cake, and then he said red wine. 80 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: What a weird order like Stranger. 81 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: Anyway, we'll talk about the finale last night. Past I 82 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: don't say anything. 83 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: Somebody won, somebody won. There's five food items. Yeah, it 84 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 3: was great, it was It was a great piece of it. 85 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 6: Must have been edited that way you bring it up 86 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 6: because there was four cheers. 87 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, pizza sorry, pastasta, garlic garlic bread. 88 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 2: Then meat sauce yeah, and then I think they said cake, yeah, 89 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 2: and then the last one was red wine. 90 00:04:58,560 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 3: That's when you got it. 91 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: Well, I think I'm not sure if Marion dreams yeah, 92 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 2: oh my god, no, but oh my god, did you 93 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 2: get stuck? 94 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 4: Again bad ear sizes. I think my ears are a 95 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 4: little too narrow for the small, for the medium, but 96 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 4: a little too big for the small, So I rock 97 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 4: in the medium. 98 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: Hopefully you don't have a problem with our No youngsters, 99 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 2: people were asking, I wear an extra large? 100 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 4: Okay, so I have I have multiple people say Hey, 101 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 4: what size should I order? I know we got large 102 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 4: and extra large left. So if you think you're about 103 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 4: my size, maybe you are. 104 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. It's jerseys are tough because you can go like, 105 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 2: you can go tight tight, you know, like almost like 106 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: a real tank top. 107 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 7: You can go bag year. Yeah, what you well to 108 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 7: play in? I don't like bag year. I prefer tide 109 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 7: to fit, but to wear in a you know, casual way. 110 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 7: I think you want to literally, no, you don't want 111 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 7: to have to like suck the old belly and while 112 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 7: you're walking around, Oh, you want to be out of 113 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 7: just wearing Oh, it's hid a little bit of that 114 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 7: extra carriage that may maybe you have as you get 115 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 7: a bit older. 116 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 5: The carriage. 117 00:05:58,960 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 4: Hit the carriage. 118 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: Okay, find a little piece of news year. We are 119 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: gonna get to the game next week, Okay. I want 120 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: everybody to put this on their calendars. Right the second 121 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: Tuesday night, around seven pm Eastern, We're all gonna come 122 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: back here to the Classic Factory because we're once again 123 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: doing a Saint Jude's fundraiser for the children's hospital. We 124 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: did this, was it last year or two years ago? 125 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 3: Last week? 126 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? 127 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: Last year okay with our guy Sam across the pond 128 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: over in the UK. We had a blast. Now we 129 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: were all doing it at Zoom at that point. But 130 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: we're gonna be here. We got a bunch of fun 131 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 2: giveaways and yeah, we're gonna do a couple hours from 132 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 2: the Classic Factory on Tuesday, May thirty first, around seven 133 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: pm Eastern, trying to raise as much money as possible 134 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: for Saint Jud's Children's Hospital. 135 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: Be there, Do we have a ghost good time? 136 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 7: Like? 137 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: What did we do last year? 138 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 6: We did twenty eight K and then NBA Top Shot 139 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 6: came in and dropped in another ten case. So we're 140 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 6: gonna start it at thirty k. 141 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: Oh wow, wow, thirty k one night. 142 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 6: I think our initial goal last year was I think 143 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 6: it was like. 144 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: Five or type K. We did the Extreme Team laughed, yeah, yeah, yeah. 145 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 6: They destroyed it, so come to destroy it on Tuesday. Okay, 146 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 6: May thirty first, this could be a blast. I can't 147 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 6: wait for that. 148 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: Okay, we got a little is this news on today's show? 149 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: We got tweeted the night, of course, But we start 150 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: with the playoff game from last night, and it was 151 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: the Celtics running past the Heat ninety three to eighty. 152 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: That was the final score, no score and affair, and 153 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: the Boston Celtics are now one went away from the 154 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: NBA Finals. So Trey again has started here. Man, what'd 155 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: you think of this one? 156 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 5: Oh? 157 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 4: You know, I love a good tail two halves. Okay, 158 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 4: this was a sick and twisted tail on two halves. 159 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 4: We've all been asking for a close conference finals game, 160 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 4: and we got a close one in the first half. 161 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 4: But it was definitely a be careful what you wish 162 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 4: for sort of deal. It was close five points at half, 163 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 4: as the graphics said going to halftime. First time all 164 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 4: series of game within five at halftime, which is good. 165 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 4: But the score was forty two to thirty seven heat. 166 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 4: The teams had combined for twenty assists and seventeen turnovers. 167 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 4: Both teams under forty percent from the field. Celtics were 168 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 4: on fire from three though twenty five percent. 169 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 5: Cool. 170 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 4: I think it was like eighteen percent for Miami. We 171 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 4: asked for a close game in the conference finals, but 172 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 4: we got a close game. From the nineteen ninety seven 173 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: conference finals, you heard a lot of first team to 174 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 4: eighty wins, and that turned out to be true, but 175 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 4: not the way that people were expecting, because at halftime 176 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 4: the Celtics transported back to the future. The Heat stayed stuck. 177 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety seven, Boston scored the first eight of 178 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 4: the third quarter to take the lead. Max Struz hit 179 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 4: a couple of free throws, got the lead back for 180 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 4: the Heat. The teams went back and forth for a 181 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 4: little bit. Boston finished the third on a ten zero run. 182 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 4: You hear on broadcasts all the time the start of 183 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 4: the quarters are big, the end of the quarters are big. 184 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 4: Who cares what. 185 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: Happens in the middle matter? 186 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, But eighteen to zero in the first two and 187 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 4: last two minutes combined for Boston, I think they went 188 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 4: on a twenty four to two run was kind of 189 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 4: the biggest thing. Stretched out, had a big lead heading 190 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 4: into the fourth and really hit the gas. They got 191 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 4: to eighty with nine minutes left on a Jalen Brown three. 192 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 4: He hit another one a minute later. To give him 193 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 4: eighty three points. Miami was still stuck at sixty. How 194 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 4: this turned into a blowout too, even though Miami did 195 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 4: make it a little bit respectable in the end, got 196 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 4: the lead under twenty, kept it there, but it didn't 197 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 4: really feel like they were threatening in the fourth quarter. 198 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 4: They did finally get to eighty points though, on an 199 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 4: omer yurtzeven hook shot with about a minute left. But 200 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 4: we got a close game and a blowout in the 201 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 4: same game. A weird result. This has been a weird series, 202 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 4: but it definitely feels like Boston. They're in the driver's seat. 203 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 4: They've got a three to two lead, they're heading back 204 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 4: to Beantown, and they looked a lot better than the 205 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 4: Heat did in the second half of that game. 206 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 5: They looked healthier, I think as well. 207 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 7: I think Jimmy Butler probably wouldn't have played this game 208 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 7: if it was a regular season game. Maybe not even 209 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 7: Kyle Lowry as well. And I think that's really Kyle 210 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 7: Lowry was awful last night. He's got no sort of 211 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 7: power in his legs. I mean he went over five 212 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 7: from Downtown, oh for six. Max Strus as well. Now 213 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 7: there's no excuse for me. He just had a stinker. 214 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 7: But I think Jimmy Butler four for eighteen, he just 215 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 7: can't sort of go in and impose his will like 216 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 7: he did in the first two games a series. M 217 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 7: We've seen him throughout the playoffs. So Boston all that 218 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 7: really didn't drop the hammer until that third quarter why 219 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 7: where they pulled away. They went on that run, Brown 220 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 7: and Tatum started to look much better. But for the 221 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 7: Miami Heat, now they've got to go to Boston and 222 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 7: win a game to get back to play another game. 223 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 7: I just don't even know if they've got that in them, 224 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 7: if for their star players. I mean, Bam was okay 225 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 7: there for them last night, but he after that Game 226 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 7: three where he was totally dominant, that was now the 227 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 7: outlier for him for this series. 228 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: He had He had like a two to three minute 229 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: stretch in last night's game, and otherwise I thought he 230 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: was just as like just as invisible as the guy's 231 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 2: injured in Butler and Lowry. I didn't think he had 232 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 2: a great game all role. 233 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,599 Speaker 5: No, No, I just think for the Heat he was 234 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 5: probably their best player. 235 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: But the crowd was like like urging him to like 236 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: do something the ball. They're like you hear the swelling 237 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 2: of the crowd like attack score because he like gets 238 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 2: it and then he's like has a decision already made 239 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: that I'm kicking it back out. It's very very strange. 240 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 7: No, but but I mean, on top of that, because 241 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 7: I saw as well the tweets about, oh, welcome back 242 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 7: to the nineties. But you know, as Summer who followed 243 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 7: the NBA from the eighties and nineties, I didn't want 244 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 7: to go back to this seventeen for seventy eight, they 245 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 7: shot from three combined, the teams just firing away. So yeah, Boston, 246 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 7: It's not like Boston went out there and just imposed 247 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 7: their will and dominate. It was like they just weren't 248 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 7: as bad as Miami was last night, and they sort 249 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 7: of fell over the line there and get this win. 250 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 7: But Boston now goes home with obviously a really good 251 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 7: chance to close this series out and get to the finals, 252 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 7: and they should because, as I've mentioned before, the injuries, 253 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 7: I think you're catching up to the heat, and I 254 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 7: think for the Celtics, even then, you know, Marcus Smart's 255 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 7: still probably not one hundred percent. Robert Williams, it feels 256 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 7: like he's kind of playing on about seventy five percent 257 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 7: right now, but. 258 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,359 Speaker 2: Teat them with his iron yeah, yeah, exactly. 259 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 7: And Tatum with the shoulder there. So the Celtics have 260 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 7: sort of gotten to this point where it's like, Okay, 261 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 7: you've got to close it out in six if you can, 262 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 7: and get ready for the likely the Warriors starting next week. 263 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 7: But a weird, ugly game last night, not one you 264 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 7: need to go back and rewatch, just see the score 265 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 7: and go, okay, Boston won. 266 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 6: What do you think, well coming out of the half 267 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 6: after we had an ugly first half, you think, ah, right, 268 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 6: we've seen four and a half ugly games here, but 269 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 6: third quarter here, this is kind of the series for 270 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 6: the Heat, they have to come out and it was 271 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 6: just shocking to see how abysmal they were, how they 272 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 6: couldn't hit a shot. One team with the young legs, 273 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 6: Jason Tatum came out and took care of business. He 274 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 6: was pretty awful in the first half shooting the ball. 275 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 6: He was setting guys up, but he came out the 276 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 6: young legs in the third quarter and fourth and was great, 277 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 6: going from one of nine in the first half to 278 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 6: six of eleven in the second half. You just need 279 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 6: one guy from the Heat, one guy and there wasn't one. 280 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 6: And it was surprising to see Jimmy Butler play the 281 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 6: way he played because he is known as a sixteen 282 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 6: game player to get you to the NBA Finals. And yeah, 283 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 6: of course he didn't look like anything like himself. He 284 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 6: just missed shots. Now they were giving him space because 285 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 6: they didn't want him to go into bodies and and 286 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 6: and be able to get to the free throw line. 287 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 6: But there was a lot of air balls. Yeah, air 288 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 6: ear bowl. 289 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: He looked like three feet short. 290 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was like, was that a pass? 291 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, they just gave a shot and the hair put 292 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 6: one over the rim from about eight feet away. He yeah, 293 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 6: what what is the what is this version of Jimmy Butler? 294 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 6: I mean, we're gonna get to Joel em beats tweets later. 295 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 6: But he needed help. Is is this Jimmy Butler not 296 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 6: able to play you know, sixty plus games and then 297 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 6: be you know, the guy that you can rely on 298 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 6: to get you to the finals. Maybe maybe that's what 299 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 6: he's become. Maybe he needs, you know, somebody to help 300 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 6: him out. And obviously Bam was the guy to supposedly 301 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 6: help him out, but he wasn't there. 302 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: And then you know, the back court we taught. 303 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 6: You mentioned Kyle Lowry going into half. I've never seen 304 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 6: him more mad, missing that half courch or that that 305 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 6: pull up three that Kyle Lowry is known for. At 306 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 6: the end of the second quarter, he clanked. It was 307 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 6: really really pissed. He was oh six in this game. 308 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 6: Has had a brutal series when he has played. Max Struce, 309 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 6: his backcourt mate also over and the guys who were 310 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 6: supposed to come help out after Victor Oladipo probably earned 311 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 6: himself some money there. In Game four, had the best 312 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 6: game of the Miami He for the Miami Heat in 313 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 6: that game, came out and was very bad in this one. 314 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 6: He was one of seven talking about airballs. He clanked 315 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 6: a couple off the backboard there, and Tyler Heroes wasn't 316 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 6: there to save the day. Gabe Vincent was their best 317 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 6: backcourt player who was a really good supporting player this 318 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 6: season and kind of had it going in this game 319 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 6: drop in fifteen, but somebody else had to help, and 320 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 6: they're just yeah, when you get to only get to 321 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 6: eighty points, it's poor performances across the board, and so 322 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 6: a very very deflating situation here where you gotta just 323 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 6: think that Jimmy is not able to be anywhere close 324 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 6: to what we know peaked Jimmy to be. And maybe 325 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 6: it's just h yeah, the injury, I suppose, but he 326 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 6: did play in Game four and tried to battle through 327 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 6: it and had a bad game, so yeah, maybe he 328 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 6: wouldn't played if it was a regular season game. But 329 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 6: just the air balls, just it's just what what is this? 330 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 6: It doesn't seem like, you know, an All world basketball player. 331 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: So I guess in the game, either four free throws 332 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: or something like that in the end for four free throws, 333 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: just a handful of attempts in the restricted area. Imo 334 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: Udoka said, we're playing him like a big like they've got. 335 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 4: They've got a Horford and Williams guarding bam And and 336 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler, and they're just dropping every single time and saying, okay, 337 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 4: trying to beat us with the jumper. We know you 338 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 4: don't have your legs to get to the rim. Also, 339 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 4: are we got a ton of size waiting for you there, 340 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 4: Try and take some jumpers. That's not Jimmy Butler's game. 341 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 4: He's got to make free throws, especially for the heat 342 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 4: to be efficient in the half court. But he just 343 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 4: doesn't look like the same guy right now. And you know, 344 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 4: I remember when he sat for Game five of the 345 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 4: Atlanta series. We're all just thinking he's just resting, there's 346 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 4: nothing seriously wrong here. But he does not. He's not 347 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 4: moving the same way. He doesn't have the same explosion. 348 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 4: He doesn't obviously have the same athleticism at the rim 349 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 4: right now. So that's why Bam has to step up. 350 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 4: He has to like handle the ball. That to me 351 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 4: is when Bam looks his best. It's when he's bringing 352 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 4: the ball up the court. It doesn't give Horford and 353 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 4: Williams a chance to set up and just wait for 354 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 4: him to try and attack. It's a little bit more scattershot. 355 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 4: So they need him to be They need Bam to 356 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 4: do a little bit of what Jimmy Butler has been 357 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 4: able to do when they look the best and control 358 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 4: the tempo and just make plays out in the open court. 359 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 6: I thought, well, it was frustrating from the heat, Okay, 360 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 6: lots of mishots, all right, it's happening. They can't hit 361 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 6: They can't hit the rim at times. But Victor Oldepo 362 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 6: had two shots from three point land where he went 363 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 6: way right. Both glass same possession. Okay, I guess you're off. 364 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 6: But later in that quarter where the Heat were so 365 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 6: desperate in the third quarter for a bucket because the 366 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 6: Celtics are picking this thing up. They had a two 367 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 6: on one Jimmy and Victor Oldipo Old Deepo handling the 368 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 6: ball all right, you know, just run a two on one, 369 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 6: and Victor Oldepo gave up the ball so early. I 370 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 6: got the three point line, Jason Tatma was able to 371 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 6: go over to Jimmy Butler stop him, and then Butler 372 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 6: passed it over to Ladipo for a foul, and they 373 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 6: weren't able to score. And that's just simple two on one. 374 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 3: Why give it up? 375 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 6: Why allow that guy to commit over there to Jimmy 376 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 6: Butler when you could have easily had a layup, I mean, 377 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 6: make Jason Tatum come to you and just give the 378 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 6: ball up. So it's some basic stuff that really hurt them. 379 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 6: They could have scored eighty one points in this game, 380 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 6: is what I'm saying, have. 381 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 7: Averaged d he won the last two games. 382 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 2: And the Celtics defense is awesome. I mean, like even 383 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: the way they're playing it. Who they're leaving open, Yeah, 384 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: forcing Jimmy to shoot and like try and beat us 385 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: from the outside, just like Derek White. Now, Horford's defense 386 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 2: alone has just been unreal how locked in they are. 387 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 2: And I think both those guys had great games on 388 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: both ends of the floor once again, so it's like, 389 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: I just don't want to say it's just because the 390 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: heater missing. No, no, no, this is the Celtics defense, which 391 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 2: are only going seven guys basically at this point now 392 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 2: too always playing there. 393 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 7: But you can hear Mike Brain on that on that 394 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 7: second one, I think from all the day back, well 395 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 7: you could hear the thud. 396 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was some craziness. But for some houses, Bill West, would. 397 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 4: You rather have two back to back bricks Oladipo style 398 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 4: or two back to back airballs? Jimmy Butlers, it's. 399 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 7: Tough fun because the bricks the sund Yeah, you can 400 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 7: at least again, I think we sort of talked about 401 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 7: you can fight that. Someone maybe got a bit of 402 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 7: a hand on it, you know, you do the ad 403 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 7: slip or something like that. 404 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 5: But the thought. 405 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, and the tail of two halfs back to 406 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: how you started this whole thing. Jalen Brown, I mean wow, 407 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 2: I mean he was he was bad jail In Brown. 408 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 2: In the first half, he was like getting his pocket 409 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 2: picked all the time. He had four turnovers. I think, 410 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 2: you know, it wasn't hitting a lot. It was like, oh, 411 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: here's another bad jail in Brown game. And then the 412 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 2: second half, you know, Tatum got it going your right task, 413 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: but so did Brown where those three threes that he 414 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 2: hit in like a small span, he had the big 415 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 2: dunk and it just became like it was a garbage 416 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: game because no one could score and the defenses is 417 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 2: amazing on both sides, don't get me wrong. But then 418 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 2: it was like, well, somebody who is just going to 419 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 2: be the better shot maker here for a stretch, and 420 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 2: it was, of course the team with the younger guys 421 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 2: in Tatum and Brown, maybe the more desperate guys that 422 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 2: haven't been to the finals yet. Here they came through 423 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 2: where Butler is an injury based probably Lowry and then 424 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 2: sort of Bam, who did some work on the boards. 425 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 2: I don't want to like discredit him there. He was 426 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 2: fighting there, but like those guys didn't know and they 427 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 2: just couldn't get shots. But Brown and Tatum shirt did 428 00:18:58,359 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 2: yea when it mattered. 429 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, Tatum said after game we played five years together. 430 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 6: I knew he was starting to feel it. I was 431 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 6: going to give him the ball, and I thought that 432 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 6: even though Tatum stunk in the first half his passes, 433 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 6: he knew he could set guys up, some beauty passes, 434 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 6: some money passes from the lane, setting guys up. And 435 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 6: with nine assists, it was pretty to watch. But the 436 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 6: Celtics got away. 437 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 3: With a game. 438 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 6: As he said, those turnovers where they had it, Yeah, 439 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 6: they're just giving it away again. But they got away 440 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 6: with it because, yeah, the Heat absolutely couldn't score. And 441 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 6: much kudos to Derek White. I didn't expect another Derek 442 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 6: White game, but he came off the bench and was 443 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 6: really a catalyst in that first half. He was kind 444 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 6: of the glue that held this team together. Tyler Hero 445 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 6: did that in Game one for the Miami Heat when 446 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 6: they were just bunking it all over the place. They 447 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 6: needed a guy off the bench. He helped. Obviously, Tyler 448 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 6: Hero looking the way he did dressed on the sideline yesterday, 449 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 6: unable to help on the floor. 450 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 3: Great look, cool look. 451 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 6: But Derek White, Baby, I didn't expect two aggressive games 452 00:19:55,359 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 6: back to back, fourteen points, five assists and just real, real, aggressive, 453 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 6: sometimes overly aggressive. He had three turnovers caused by you know, 454 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 6: just throwing his body around, but that was needed good 455 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 6: for him, good good, and and one of those moments 456 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 6: you don't often see in basketball. He was hustling back 457 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 6: to create a steel situation, so he's be lining it 458 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 6: to his own hoop, got the steel and jumped over 459 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 6: the baseline and he was underneath his own hoop and 460 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 6: he's looking around, What am I going to do with it? 461 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 5: What am I going to do with it? 462 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 3: I can't, I got nowhere to go. And he just 463 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: landed out of the house. 464 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty neat. Yeah, you see a lot of a 465 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 2: lot of guys like try and just save that anyway 466 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 2: and it can backfire. 467 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, that was cool, just something cool, I think something 468 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 6: one of the coolest things in the game yesterday We're Desperate. 469 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 2: Well, you know what else was cool for talking cool 470 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: things from that sort of weird game. The time Lord's 471 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: block that they kept showing over and over again. Who 472 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: did he block on that three? Was it? 473 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 5: Was it? 474 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 2: Vincent? 475 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 5: Yes? I think it was? Yeah, Yeah, where he came from? 476 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: Awesome? Yeah, I mean the guy and he's playing on 477 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: one bum leg and that just looked so just getting 478 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: his fingertips coming from the paint all the way out 479 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 2: to the three point line and blocking in and he's 480 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: done that before, but it just looks awesome. 481 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 7: That's those young legs in the athleticism. We can get 482 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 7: out there and cover all that ground. Sorry, but then 483 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 7: that's just what he don't have right now. They don't 484 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 7: have guys able. 485 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 5: To do that. 486 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 7: So he's been a big fact of rob Wlians when 487 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 7: he's been on the quarter in the series. And yeah, 488 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 7: I mean it's huge for him, so great, great defensive highlight. Yeah, 489 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 7: and see a whole lot of them. 490 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 2: Let me just go over how crazy the massive like 491 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: swings have been in this series, because I think it's 492 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 2: fun to illustrate. In Game one, Miami went on a 493 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 2: forty four to fourteen run, Okay, there was that. In 494 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 2: Game two, Boston went on a sixty to twenty one 495 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 2: type of run. In Game three, Miami opened on a 496 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 2: forty six to twenty run followed by a fifty seven 497 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: to thirty three run from Celtics to make it a game. 498 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: And we had a twenty six to four run by 499 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: the Celtics to open Game four, and then in Game five, tray. 500 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: You said it. It was a twenty four to two 501 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 2: run over about six and a half minutes end of 502 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: the third into the fourth quarter, and then you know, 503 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 2: so that score went from one point game to suddenly 504 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: the Boston's up twenty three points and it was and 505 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: it was over. It's good. 506 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 4: It's really really right now for not making a twenty 507 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 4: two to two watch that unless they hit a three 508 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 4: and it was twenty one to two. Yeah, yeah, I mean, 509 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 4: it is crazy to see the runs like this and 510 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 4: neither team able to like put a stop to the 511 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 4: run when it starts. Yeah, that's the crazy thing to me, 512 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 4: considering how good both of these teams are defensively. 513 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 2: Anything else. I mean, the only other note I have 514 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 2: just the heat shooting a abysmal fifteen point six percent 515 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: from three seven of forty five. 516 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw. Rockets fans were pretty excited about that. 517 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 4: They're like, we're not the worst anymore. After the over 518 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 4: twenty seven the Warriors. I also liked that Grant Williams 519 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 4: got the start in the second half. Uh emo U 520 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 4: Dooka says it's because Robert Williams was stretching, but Grant 521 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 4: Williams said it's because he was poopy. 522 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 5: I think it was the personally. 523 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was the amazing, amazing that just happens. 524 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 6: You know, you play the first half of basketball, you 525 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 6: go back into the locker. 526 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 2: Room loosened up. 527 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm tightened up after I like, so, so when 528 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 6: did it happen? It happened because halftime is like fifteen sixteen, 529 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 6: seventeen minutes long. 530 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit of time. 531 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you gotta sat down here. 532 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: What coach has to say it the first part. 533 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 6: So he sat down at that twelve minute or something. Yeah, 534 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 6: it's just the timing seems off because there's three stories. 535 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 6: See there's also this stretch. Had to use the facilities 536 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 6: or it was a move to get Grant Williams out 537 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 6: there to play alongside Al Horford took just back up 538 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 6: off Jimmy Butler. I mean that's what I was buying 539 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 6: at the beginning, sure, because that's that's they're just giving 540 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 6: Jimmy Butler space, as you said, playing him like a 541 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 6: big Robert Williams could. 542 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 3: Help there as well. 543 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 6: So yeah, he had to take care of business whatever 544 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 6: that was like. 545 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: But whatever, Friday night, what do you think is this 546 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: the Bean Town boys taking care of business. Here are 547 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: they going to get the Bob Who's the awards and 548 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 2: Larry Bird Conference Finals on their own? Larry Bird be 549 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 2: there handing it out. 550 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 7: I guess so, I guess I think so. Yeah, if 551 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 7: they went yeah, I honestly, I just think the Heat's 552 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 7: offense and you know, Tyler Hero wasn't there last night, 553 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 7: but even without him, they've had seventy nine against the 554 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 7: Sixers at one point and eighty two and eighty in 555 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 7: the last two games. 556 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were up five at the half because the 557 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 2: Souldiers kept turning the ball over. They should have been 558 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 2: up way more then, Goni pointed it out. They did 559 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: not take advantage on a lot of those turnovers. Yeah, 560 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: were they botch fast breaks or just like could have 561 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 2: scored and didn't threw the ball away on the other 562 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: end as well, like they should have been up bigger. 563 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean a game like this should sort of factor. Then. 564 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 7: They liked the grind, they liked the tough but it 565 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 7: didn't work because they just didn't seem to have anyone 566 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 7: flowing offensively. So yes, I do think the Celtics close 567 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 7: it out. 568 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 5: They should. 569 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 7: I think they are a better team. I think they're deeper. 570 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 7: I think their defense is good. They're healthy, they've got 571 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 7: better stars, so they should be able to finish it 572 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 7: off from here. Just one more point. Now, I'm putting 573 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 7: j D under the spot here because I just slacked 574 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 7: him an image. 575 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 5: I don't know. 576 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 3: I know. 577 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 5: I couldn't say you have it. 578 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 7: I know you have it not on JD during the show, 579 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 7: which is smart, But I wanted to bring it up 580 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 7: because something weird happened last night. 581 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 5: Now I think it was photoshopped, but I'm not sure. 582 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 5: I'm not sure. 583 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 7: Well, so Tyler Hero obviously wasn't playing last night. Now 584 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,719 Speaker 7: there was an image floating around. 585 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 3: I hear what you're saying. 586 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,239 Speaker 7: Now, I don't know if it was photoshopped or I 587 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 7: think it was. Yeah, So so Tyler here on the 588 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 7: sideline looking great, you know, not playing. 589 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 5: He had the glass. 590 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 2: It looks so great. He was wearing a weight outfit 591 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 2: with snaker. 592 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 5: He looked move Yeah, he looked very Miamic. 593 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 3: Now he blew out his hair, I think him. 594 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 5: I mean, that's drawn on, isn't That's not right? Because 595 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 5: it was going around. 596 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 7: And there was a lot of people saying, like, you know, 597 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 7: like because I've never seen him with facial and all 598 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 7: of a sudden, he's going could have. 599 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 2: I think people were leaning into the idea like he 600 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 2: looked like a cooking sort of Yeah, yeah, yeah, real 601 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: Miami vibes. 602 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 5: But I also was like it could be real. 603 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like, yeah, I see. 604 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 6: That a little off kilter, but yeah, yeah, yeah pretty 605 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 6: well one part. 606 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I saw it. 607 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 6: I knew it was photoshop because I saw him baby 608 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 6: face earlier than I saw that. 609 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, whoa, it does look good. 610 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 7: I saw him baby face as well, and I thought 611 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 7: maybe it's just the camera the lights. 612 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 5: I don't know. 613 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 7: I hoped this was real. I suspect that it wasn't. 614 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 7: I just thought, you know, why not have some fun there. 615 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 7: But yeah, he's he's really embraced the Miami douchey look, 616 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 7: you know, like sunglasses inside white shirt. 617 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 6: That's another blowout that hare. 618 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, the sixth blowout of this same same question. I 619 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: asked Lee, are you guys? I guess I asked Tredy yesterday, like, 620 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 2: whoever wins the pivotal Game five, are they going on 621 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 2: to win this series? I think you said Tree at 622 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 2: the time, like, well, it's much more important for Miami 623 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: to win Game five. You still feel that way, I assume. 624 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, it did feel like the series pivoted towards 625 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 4: the Celtics last night. Just how good they were in 626 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 4: that second half and how Jalen Brown was able to 627 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 4: get on tracked, and how Tatum was like trusting the 628 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 4: playmaking and obviously the defense stuck around and just seeing 629 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 4: how he beat down the Heat. Look right now, it's 630 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 4: just tough to imagine them going on the road in 631 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 4: what's going to be like a Rockets environment, no doubt, 632 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 4: like the Boston crowd has been and better than the 633 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 4: Miami crowd so far in the series. I assume it 634 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 4: will be in an elimination game as well. It just 635 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 4: feels like the Heat are not at full strength right now, 636 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 4: and even at full strength, it's hard to see necessarily 637 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 4: how they get to enough points. 638 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 2: Series desperately need a lowry three point explosion, you know 639 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 2: where he has those games where he hits four five 640 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: six threes. They so need those. In your right test, 641 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 2: he looked like on a couple of ones he misses, 642 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 2: he was just shaking his head like, why the hell 643 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 2: won't this thing go ahead? You know, like come off 644 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 2: that pick top or step into it in transition. He 645 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 2: hits those, but he can't write out at all, and 646 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: he was horrible. I love Lowry, he was brutal, Butler's brutal. 647 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: I think he's got a good reason why he's been 648 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: playing poorly the last couple game, and I thought Bam 649 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 2: was just as bad again outside of like that little 650 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 2: stretch where suddenly Bam woke up and was like, all right, 651 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: maybe a little too late, but those guy's gotta step up. 652 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 653 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 6: You gotta feel terrible for Kyle Lowry as supporters of 654 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 6: his guy, as somebody who came in and helped out 655 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 6: and won a championship and knows that this is exactly 656 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 6: his role when things aren't working for the number one 657 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 6: or the number two. Here I am, I'm going to 658 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 6: drop a shot in. But it just shows you've got 659 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 6: to play basketball to be able to be good at basketball. 660 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 6: I think he's been in him coming in like reps. Yeah, 661 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 6: especially in the older days. He's got to be able 662 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 6: to just continuously play, and he's been in and out 663 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 6: of the lineup. And that's why I think it's so 664 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 6: frustrating for him because he knows these shots can go down, 665 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 6: but he's just not in a rhythm and not in 666 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 6: a flow. So there's an excuse there. There is an 667 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 6: excuse for Jimmy Butler. And to give a little praise 668 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 6: to Jimmy Butler, at least he went down firing last night. 669 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 6: It wasn't it wasn't a James Harden experience. He came 670 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 6: in and started shooting right away. But I think this 671 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 6: team is absolutely done. And to me, when Jalen Brown 672 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 6: dunked on this team midway through the fourth quarter and 673 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 6: there wasn't any resistance from bam Adebayo, bam just kind 674 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 6: of watch. It's that's their big man who shut down 675 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 6: the Celtics team a couple of years ago in the bubble, 676 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 6: and he didn't jump. I think everybody knows that this 677 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 6: thing is over. And it's not like last series for 678 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 6: the Boston Celtics, the giveaway Game five, were able to 679 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 6: win Game six in Game seven. But I don't think 680 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 6: this happens. I don't see the heat doing that. 681 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's hear. 682 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 7: From the stream team when you got well, Lowry's three 683 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 7: for his last twenty three from Downtown, eight for thirty 684 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 7: nine in the playoffs from three, So that explosion is unlikely. 685 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 5: Well, he certainly do, yes, Yeah. 686 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 7: But yeah, he's just not not able to get that elevation. 687 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 5: Those shots look flat. 688 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: They look flat. You know, he's always had it almost 689 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 2: sort of a flat. 690 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right. 691 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 2: Let's hear from the stream team everybody watching listening later, 692 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 2: how this go down on Friday night? Game six? The 693 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: Bean Town Boys taking care of business? Or you know, 694 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 2: can this veteran Heat team win again in Boston? They 695 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: have done it and you know, maybe maybe Butler or 696 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: Lowry or Bam can take control and get this back 697 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 2: for a game seven. Let us know what you think 698 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 2: we're gonna take our first break when we come back. 699 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: We got a whole bunch of is this news and 700 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: still tweeted the night, So don't go anywhere. Oh yeah, 701 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 2: a little reminder hit the like button, subscribe to No 702 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 2: Dunks on YouTube, Share the show, Tell a friend. 703 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 3: Be a hero. 704 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: Leally forgot to ask you off the top of the show. 705 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 2: How'd the graduation go yesterday? 706 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it was fine. 707 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 7: I'd look, it was a little subdued in there, though, 708 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 7: I'll be honest with you know a lot of parents. 709 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 7: I think we were all, you know, thinking the same thing. 710 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 7: That could have happened the day before, So it was. 711 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 7: It was a fun celebration to see our boys and 712 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 7: girls ending pre K, but maybe not as joyous as 713 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 7: it may have been at other time. 714 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 2: You did say Oscar got an award though. 715 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 5: He got MVP. He did the MVP MVP of. 716 00:30:59,240 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: Pre K. 717 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 4: Trophy. 718 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 6: Who says people are now just handing up participation awards 719 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 6: are smoking? 720 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 7: Well the old Simpson joke of every kid gets an 721 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 7: award day was really every single child received some award envy. 722 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 2: Not every not every kid was m v P. 723 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 7: No, no, no, but he yeah, it was for being 724 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 7: very helpful to the teacher and to his students and 725 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 7: always being available to help them as. 726 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 2: What the pupil. 727 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 5: Yes, so yes, he picked up his first m v P. 728 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 2: All right, let's get to is this news? 729 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 3: Hear this? 730 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 2: There's this news headlines for the guys and for everyone 731 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: joining his live listening watching later and you just tell 732 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 2: me after I give you the headline. Yeah, that's news, 733 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 2: that's not news. 734 00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 5: What's wrong with you? 735 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: First one, ESPN, you never heard of it? 736 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I am. 737 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: I really enjoyed saying ESPN the headline was, this is 738 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 2: a weird headline. Tatum thankful for making All NBA First Team, 739 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 2: but he wants rules around voting, so tasks. Is this news? 740 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 6: I like the way Jason Tatum approached this. He was 741 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 6: asked about making the first team, but then he brought up, 742 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 6: why isn't it positionless? Doesn't really make sense that Joel 743 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 6: Embiid was second in MVP voting but is on the 744 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 6: second team. Get what you're saying, Tatum, totally get what 745 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 6: you're saying. It makes sense. I think he's onto something. 746 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 6: What if MVP voting just doubled over for all NBA 747 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 6: voting just just just replicated you just need one vote, 748 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 6: one vote for these these media members vote for the MVP, 749 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 6: and then the top fifteen, regardless of position, as Jason 750 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 6: Tatum said, are the All NBA teams. Because you go 751 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 6: into it, it's perfect, actually it really It just it's 752 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 6: duplicated across the board because the twelve guys that got 753 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 6: MVP votes are on the three first teams of All NBA. 754 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 3: So there's any any vote, not just uh every vote, 755 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 3: every vote. 756 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 6: So and and it works like for first, second, and third. 757 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 6: So the top five in MVP voting where Yokich, Embiid, 758 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 6: Yiannis Booker and Doncic, so matching what the first team was, 759 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 6: but dropping Tatum to the second four MB perfect, and 760 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 6: then the next five in voting were Tatum himself on 761 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 6: the second team just like he said he should be, 762 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 6: sort of, uh, Morant, Curry, CP, and DeRozan. So you 763 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 6: got Tatum for EMBIID three other correct, Marant, Curry and 764 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 6: d D M DeMar DeRozan. But CP kind of jumped 765 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 6: from the third team, which he was on, so you 766 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 6: know what I mean, It's it's pretty accurate. Then Lebron 767 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 6: and Durant were the eleventh and twelfth and MVP voting 768 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 6: and Lebron was on the third team and Durant was 769 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 6: on the second. Right, Tracy Akham and Town's the only 770 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 6: guys on the All NBA team that didn't get MVP votes. 771 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 6: But maybe you have to vote for for fifteen guys. 772 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 6: I guess that doesn't really. 773 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 2: Working, but it sounds like sick o skeet stage. 774 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, well it works. It kind of works. 775 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 6: It's positionless basketball, kind of punished, I guess if that's 776 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 6: the right word MB for being a center, and he 777 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 6: goes to the second team. So yeah, I think Tatum's 778 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:27,919 Speaker 6: onto something. 779 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 2: He also has thoughts though on who sort of should 780 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 2: be voting on these too. Right, is a part of 781 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 2: the equation because of what happened last year with him 782 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 2: and him missing out on a ton of money and 783 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 2: not making a particular team. So he's also this always 784 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 2: comes up, right, who should be voting on these awards? 785 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 2: Should it be players and coaches? Should we stick with 786 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,720 Speaker 2: the media? Does anybody know anything? 787 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing. To me, this kind of played 788 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 4: out like even Tatum doesn't really have a solution for 789 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 4: how this should be done. He said, there's not really 790 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 4: a set rules on who should qualify. There should be 791 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 4: some rules in place. I don't know exactly, but maybe 792 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 4: you should have to play certain amount of games, or 793 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 4: maybe you're a playoff team or not. He's basically just 794 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 4: saying something eight right and it needs to change, but 795 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 4: nobody can figure it out. Because should it be the 796 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 4: players who, when we see at All Star voting, vote 797 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 4: for their own teammates and themselves and don't take it 798 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 4: super seriously. Should it be the coaches who everybody says 799 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 4: don't vote on it in any ways and give it 800 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 4: to the assistance. Should it be the general managers who 801 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 4: have a huge financial incentive with regards to this voting, Like, 802 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 4: it doesn't feel like there's a perfect solution to this. 803 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 4: I saw on Twitter last night that Miles Brown suggested, 804 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 4: in an NBA Supreme Court, you get nine legends and 805 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 4: they make rulings on rules and awards and all that 806 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 4: kind of stuff. 807 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 7: Why not Yeah, well, Jalen Rose shouldn't be on that 808 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 7: Supreme Court. I mean he's given guys votes who played 809 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 7: twenty nine games. 810 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, he admitted it was a mistake on ESPN yesterday. Yeah. 811 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 7: So that's again though, because I believe the players are 812 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 7: the most qualified, because I do think overall, there is 813 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 7: way more respect of like, Okay, I like this guy, 814 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 7: he deserves votes, and they've played so they can repay 815 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 7: it like that. But this is an incident where it's like, no, 816 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 7: there's no justification for Kyrievy being on an All NBA 817 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 7: team when he played twenty nine games. Unless he us 818 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 7: averaging sixty five a game and they won twenty eight 819 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,760 Speaker 7: of twenty nine, maybe it didn't happen. But I also 820 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 7: believe that the games played should be marked into the criteria. 821 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 7: You should have to meet a certain point seventy five 822 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 7: percent of the games. I don't think that's unreasonable. That 823 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 7: will also. 824 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 5: Maybecourage players to exactly to. 825 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 7: Be like, well, hang on a minute, I've had a 826 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 7: great season. I've got to play two or three more 827 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 7: games down the stretch here to qualify for that, and 828 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 7: then they go out and play. 829 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 2: That's one rule you would like to see like implemented 830 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 2: absolute NBA or maybe a lot of these awards an 831 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 2: x amount of games played a percentage of games played, 832 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 2: And that's just if you don't hit it, you're not, 833 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 2: in the conversation ineligible. 834 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, there has to be some sort of 835 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 7: qualification period. Now, there'll be some guys who'll be like, 836 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 7: well I was injured, I couldn't play. Well, okay, bad luck, 837 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 7: you miss out. But then of course it filters down 838 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 7: to like the incentives in their bonuses and their contracts 839 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 7: of where you where you finish as to whether or 840 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 7: not you can sign the super Max or the Duper 841 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 7: Max or the super Duper Whooper Dupi Duper Looper Max. 842 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 5: Whatever that is, Cooper Max. 843 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 7: But you know there, it is an imperfect situation as 844 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 7: it is right now. But I also believe very much 845 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 7: so that it should be positionless kind of what if 846 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 7: you've finished top three in MVP and you're not in 847 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 7: the All NBA. There's a problem there because you were 848 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 7: one of the best. 849 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 5: Three in the league. 850 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 7: But then there are minimum exactly, but there are three 851 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 7: other guys better than you, or you know, finished in 852 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 7: the All NBA team because you qualified overlapped at another guys. 853 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 2: I think can beat as the only person in NBA 854 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 2: history to finish runner up in MVP and not be 855 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 2: on the first team, and he's not it twice, right, Yeah, 856 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 2: so and that position. But the way we do these still. 857 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, because there's only one center spy, Yeah. 858 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 7: Which is it's just silly because it's just it's an award, 859 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 7: it's an accolade. 860 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 5: It's not a game. 861 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 7: You're not going out there to playing qualify, so you 862 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 7: should get that honor. If you were top three in 863 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 7: the league, you're automatically on the All NBA team. 864 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess I'll push back on sometimes like some 865 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 2: of the current players saying, oh, why why are these 866 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 2: one hundred sports writers, Like what do they have to 867 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 2: say about this? And why do they get a vote? 868 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 2: It's like, well, we're just proving. With Jalen Rose, a 869 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 2: former player who I guess now is a broadcaster, but 870 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 2: like there are there are going to be shitty selections 871 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 2: from current players, former players, GMS coaches, broadcasters, podcasters, like yeah, 872 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter, there's going to be shitty selections, and 873 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 2: like they should be embarrassing, they should be called out. 874 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 2: Not that anything really ever comes from it. No, Like, 875 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 2: I mean, that is voting for Kyrie for one of 876 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 2: these positions, isn't sane? And that twenty nine games, like 877 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 2: that's that's a joke. And then he couldn't what was 878 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 2: his reason besides it was a mistake. What is mistake? 879 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 2: What a similar name is? He did it for content 880 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,959 Speaker 2: and he doesn't because it doesn't really matters the other part. 881 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 2: But like that's that's shameful. 882 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 5: Really it is. 883 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 7: And that's where a qualification of games played would have 884 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 7: eliminated happening. But also if you do vote for him, 885 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 7: then Jalen get off. You can't vote next year, you 886 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 7: get banned for five years. 887 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 2: Well, if we had the NBA Supreme Court exactly right, Yeah, yeh, 888 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 2: gotta go make his case and. 889 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 5: Or the rule on it. 890 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a minimum games played is good minimum games. 891 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 3: Watched for broadcasters. 892 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 2: Clock in. 893 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to video yourself. Yeah clock in is good, 894 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 3: I mean watching it. 895 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 4: You need your game tape as well. How are you 896 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 4: paying at time? Well off in your eyes locked on 897 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:26,280 Speaker 4: the screen. 898 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 6: Because your players are going to vote for guys that 899 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 6: they think are good basketball players. People were really upset 900 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 6: that Kyrie Irving wasn't on the top seventy five list. 901 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 6: Andre good Dolls and how is this guy not part 902 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 6: of the top seventy five list. So they're going to 903 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 6: find a way to put it. They're going to rank 904 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 6: the top fifteen players who they think are in the game. 905 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 6: And I guess Jalen Brown was Jaylen Brown. Jalen Rose 906 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 6: was watching Kyrie Irving during a good game one day, 907 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 6: and so this guy's a top fifteen player in the NBA, 908 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 6: but overall his season was not. Kendrick Perkins did the 909 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,280 Speaker 6: same with the All Rookie vote. He put Trey Murphy 910 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 6: of An Orleans Pelicans and Alvarado on the second team 911 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 6: over Herbert Jones, their teammate and was a real factor 912 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 6: on their team. To call those guys that everybody's going 913 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 6: to make bad. 914 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 2: Picks, Yeah it's true, Okay, next one. 915 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 3: Report, Wow, Yeah, Well, I. 916 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 2: Want to know how much you guys followed the sport. 917 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 2: I'm testing you. You guys are gonna get one of 918 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 2: these votes down the line. I got to know that 919 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 2: you read report. Dude. 920 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I used to ride for Okay, you're in. 921 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 2: Here's your vote. 922 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 5: Thanks. 923 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 2: Uh, you're just gonna vote for Rozzie, So that's gonna 924 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 2: be your issue, Okay. Kevin Durant reportedly hasn't spoken to 925 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 2: the NETS front office since the playoff sweep. Is this news? 926 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 4: What is the news? But it might be news to 927 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,359 Speaker 4: start with. I don't think it's a big deal at all. 928 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 4: But Kevin Durant hasn't talked with the Nets. They've been 929 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 4: out of the playoffs for a month. We know he 930 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 4: traveled to the euro League to watch that is the 931 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 4: Nets were eliminated. He's barely even been active on Twitter 932 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 4: this week. I think he's got one tweet this week, 933 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,399 Speaker 4: So to me, he's just taken some me time. Yeah, 934 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 4: there's not much to do Nets wise right now. Either. 935 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 4: They don't currently have a pick. I think they can 936 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 4: swap with the Sixers this year if they want to, 937 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 4: or next year if they want to. But they made 938 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 4: their big move at the trade deadline. So now for 939 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 4: the Nets, it's like, we got to get Ben Simmons healthy, 940 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 4: we got to figure out what our veteran role players 941 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 4: are going to be. So to me, Katie tuning out 942 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,800 Speaker 4: right now, It's fine, the season is still happening. Who cares. 943 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 4: The bigger news, though, is that the Nets may not 944 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 4: extend Kyrie Irving, as Christian Winfield that the New York 945 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 4: Daily News reported due to Kyrie's personal decision not to 946 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 4: get vaccinated and unpredictable injury history, the Nets are hesitant 947 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 4: and now outright unwilling to give him a long term extension. 948 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 4: And I buy that at least a little bit based 949 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 4: on the Seawan Marks press conference right after the Nets 950 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 4: were eliminated, where he's basically saying Kyrie needs to get 951 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 4: with the program here. We need to have everybody on 952 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 4: the same page going forward. Now, Kyrie has a player 953 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 4: option for next season, but he's going to a longer 954 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 4: deal because in the three seasons he's been with the Nets, 955 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,359 Speaker 4: Kyrie's played one hundred and three games. Kevin Durant played 956 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 4: ninety games, and he missed an entire season with an 957 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 4: achilles injury. So I'm almost more more curious at this 958 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 4: point if Kevin Durant has talked to Kyrie Irving rather 959 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 4: than talking to the Nets, because if Katie's still on 960 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 4: board with Kyrie, the Nets are going to be as well. 961 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 4: But if not, I'm monitoring the extension, Like if the 962 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 4: extension comes all good in Brooklyn, you know, at least 963 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 4: between the different players and personnel there. But if not, 964 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 4: Kyrie becomes the best available free agent for sure, also 965 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,399 Speaker 4: with a ton of baggage. 966 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 3: So this is something. 967 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 4: I don't think the not talking to the Nets is something, 968 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,479 Speaker 4: but the Nets not being that enthused with Kyrie Irving 969 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 4: that is m what do you think. 970 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 7: I wouldn't extend him at all. No way, He's just 971 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 7: proved too much that he just is not committed. And 972 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 7: sometimes it's injury, sometimes it's just personal issues. Sometimes he's 973 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 7: just flaky. So I would not lock him into a 974 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 7: three or four year extension. He's got the one, as 975 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 7: try to mention, they're the player option for season. You 976 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,879 Speaker 7: can extend him basically for as long as you want. 977 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 7: Alf that if you choose to. If he's looking for 978 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 7: four years, I'd say then that's no thanks. We'll give 979 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 7: you maybe one if you want but that's it. He's 980 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 7: a great player when he plays, but he's also you 981 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 7: just can't rely on him. You can't trust him. You 982 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 7: don't know where he's going to go, you don't know 983 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 7: what he's going to be doing, So there's no need 984 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 7: to lock him up for that. Almost dare him, say 985 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 7: go and find a team to give you a four 986 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 7: year contract. I'm not sure there'd be too many teams 987 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 7: saying we'll lock Kyrie moving up because they know he's 988 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:27,399 Speaker 7: a risk. 989 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 5: Yeah. 990 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,399 Speaker 2: The counter to that is what Tree was saying. 991 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 3: Though. 992 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 2: If Durant says, no, Currie, you're locking them up because 993 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 2: they want him here, then you've got a more of 994 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 2: a decision because now it's like two guys here that 995 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 2: you've got to worry about. Well, you do, but if 996 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 2: they're linked, yeah, that tat still. 997 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 7: But you've also locked Kevin Durant up already, So there's 998 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 7: you know, I mean, yeah. 999 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 2: Ken piss off Kevin around. He's like, trade me. I 1000 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:48,399 Speaker 2: don't want to be here. 1001 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,840 Speaker 5: Maybe he does, maybe he does, Just that's your concern. 1002 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 7: I just I think Kevin Durant is probably going I 1003 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 7: don't know what I'm going to get out of Kyrie either, 1004 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 7: so Kevin Durant, no doubt carries some weight in the 1005 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 7: front office. But I don't think the point to the 1006 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 7: point where that Joseph saw and Chill Max's like, well, 1007 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 7: if he wants Carter to get a four year, then 1008 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:06,399 Speaker 7: we give him a full year. 1009 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 5: I don't think they. 1010 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,839 Speaker 2: Did it with de Andre Jordan basically, but maybe they've 1011 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 2: learned their lesson. 1012 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1013 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 2: This is interesting. I guess what do you think? 1014 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, totally interesting if they picked them as a tandem, 1015 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 6: or if if they don't pick Iri and Kevin Durant says, 1016 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 6: all right, I'm out of here as well. So it's 1017 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 6: that's the interesting the duo. If I understand, maybe they 1018 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 6: haven't talked to Kevin Durant, but it doesn't really matter 1019 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 6: at this point. And I think I think they're in 1020 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 6: some sort of communication. What does talk actually mean? You know, 1021 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 6: what does talk mean these days? 1022 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:39,479 Speaker 3: Shared? 1023 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 2: Any sort of communication? 1024 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's talking. If we're texting, we're talking. I think 1025 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:44,399 Speaker 3: they talk. 1026 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 2: And I think this is wrong. 1027 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 6: Then well I think I think, yeah, talk. You can 1028 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,280 Speaker 6: be intro It's like did I listen to an audio 1029 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:52,919 Speaker 6: book or did I read a book? If I listened 1030 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 6: to an audio book, did you talk if you text it? 1031 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 6: I think I think we're getting into a gray area 1032 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 6: and uh, Christian would feel got his sources. But you know, 1033 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 6: reading into this a little bit more, if you remember 1034 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 6: during the Mikhail Prokerov years of the Brooklyn Nets, his 1035 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 6: president Arena Pavlova, she was sort of like the front facing, 1036 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 6: did a lot of stuff for the Brooklyn Nets. She 1037 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 6: was there for seven years and still sort of in 1038 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 6: in touch with the Nets runt office. She said, seriously, 1039 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 6: if you really think that Sean Marks hasn't spoken to 1040 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 6: his star player in a month, then I've got a 1041 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 6: couple of Bridges I'll give you a good deal on. 1042 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 6: So she's basically saying, of course KD is in the know, Andles. 1043 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 2: Bridges is going to be traded. They could use them. 1044 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 3: Who is who did you reference earlier? Miles Miles Brown? 1045 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a lot of good names out there these days, 1046 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 6: Bridges and Browns. 1047 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 3: Well whatever, I think. I think Kevin Durant is link 1048 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 3: to Kyrie. If they say if they say. 1049 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 6: Bug off to Kyrie, then if if Kyrie doesn't want 1050 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 6: to be a part of it, whether it's a shorter 1051 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 6: extension than I wonder if, yeah, that alienates KD. I 1052 00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 6: think that's a legitimate idea, even if he is signed. 1053 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 2: Next one from Hoopswire. Have you honestly ever heard of 1054 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 2: that's just so straight up quick hoops. I've never heard 1055 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 2: of the same anyway, hoops Wire a little aggregation here. 1056 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:21,720 Speaker 2: NBA reportedly eyeing expansion into Seattle and Las Vegas. Leea's 1057 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 2: this news. 1058 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 7: Uh, well, this has been rumored for a while now, 1059 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 7: and it really picked up steam during the shutdown for 1060 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,800 Speaker 7: COVID there because the NBA lost a lot of revenue, 1061 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 7: and apparently one way to recover some of that revenue 1062 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,359 Speaker 7: is to expand because it's a two and a half 1063 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 7: bill buy in apparently, so there's a lot of billionaires 1064 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:45,840 Speaker 7: out there who want to get in, and they know 1065 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 7: that these option opportunities don't pop up very often. So 1066 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 7: if you can get a couple of billionaires to come 1067 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 7: in and cough up two and a half bill, and 1068 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 7: then they get to distribute a lot of that amongst 1069 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:55,760 Speaker 7: the other owners. 1070 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 5: It's a cash cow. 1071 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 7: So I think it is likely to happen at some 1072 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,479 Speaker 7: point in the future. How soon, I'm not sure. 1073 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,359 Speaker 2: The rumor is about two twenty four. Yeah, that media 1074 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 2: is at a little. 1075 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 7: Soon For me, I would say maybe a year or 1076 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 7: two later. 1077 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 5: But I think I think. 1078 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 7: Personally we're halfway through twenty twenty two. Can we get 1079 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,800 Speaker 7: them two up and running within eighteen months two years? 1080 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 5: Maybe? Maybe? I don't know that. 1081 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 7: I mean, I know they do any well, true, and 1082 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 7: I know there is an arena arena in Sad Seattle, 1083 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 7: I believe where the Kraken plays, and that the that 1084 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 7: was new so so maybe, yeah, okay, maybe they can 1085 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 7: get him in there. But I think it is just 1086 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,319 Speaker 7: a matter of time before it happened. I'm not sure 1087 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 7: it's for the right reasons. I think we have a 1088 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 7: lot of teams in the NBA through every season that 1089 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 7: basically stink from the start. There's maybe five to six 1090 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 7: teams that you're like, they're tanking. They're tanking, they're not 1091 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 7: even competing. Adding two more dilutes the pool of talent 1092 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:52,240 Speaker 7: a little bit more. But money talks and bullshit walks. 1093 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 5: As I learned from watching Twins. 1094 00:47:54,920 --> 00:48:02,720 Speaker 7: So you know Danny Devidos, right, yeah. 1095 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 5: Nice, No, you see you later. So it's gonna happen. 1096 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 5: It's gonna happen. 1097 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 7: It's just a matter of when, But unfortunately, it'd be 1098 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 7: great to be back in Seattle for sure. 1099 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 5: I'm not sure, you know. 1100 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 7: Las Vegas to me is such a contradiction because gambling 1101 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 7: is allowed now, but you're not allowed to gamble if 1102 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 7: you're a player. But we're also going to put a 1103 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 7: team in that city, sin city, where there's so many 1104 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 7: vices and things for young men with a lot of 1105 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 7: money and a lot of time on the hands to 1106 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 7: get caught up in. I'm gonna put a team right 1107 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 7: there and then say don't gamble and don't get into traveling. 1108 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 2: Can you bet on the Vegas sports teams in Nevada? 1109 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 2: Like when they're playing? Like, I don't know if you can, Like, 1110 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 2: can I bet on an ASA's game when I'm there 1111 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 2: watching or not there? But you know, obviously placing a 1112 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,279 Speaker 2: bet in Nevada, I don't know. I don't know what 1113 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:47,840 Speaker 2: the ruling is. 1114 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:48,720 Speaker 3: That's a good question. 1115 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 4: The answer is yes, but no, Okay, all right, we'll 1116 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:55,399 Speaker 4: leave it at that. Yep. 1117 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was just gonna say, but the Seattle arena, 1118 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,760 Speaker 6: I thought the Crack can play in a new arena, 1119 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 6: but that's an old arena, oh is it? That's been 1120 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 6: revitalized a bit nineteen sixty two. 1121 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a key arena, right, it's the same arena, so. 1122 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,760 Speaker 3: That they did some work on it though, Yeah, so doable. 1123 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 6: Obviously there's an NHL team playing there, and the Storm 1124 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,320 Speaker 6: play there as well, I do believe. 1125 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 2: So, Okay, what if we have those teams in Seattle 1126 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 2: and Las Vegas. Those are two Western Conference teams, that's right, 1127 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 2: somebody's got to come east. 1128 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 4: Memphis and Minnesota. Okay, those are your two teams. Come 1129 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 4: in the eastern New Orleans, New Orleans. That's a solid 1130 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 4: I forgot about New Orleans. Yeah, I was checking Oklahoma 1131 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 4: City to see which was further east between Minnesota and 1132 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 4: Oklahoma City. But New Orleans is a lot further east 1133 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,800 Speaker 4: than either of them, Memphis and New Orleans. 1134 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds good. 1135 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 4: Throw them in the Southeast Division, the Hawks, the Heat. 1136 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 4: Magic probably moved the Wizards out of that one, right 1137 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,240 Speaker 4: because they're living far north. 1138 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 3: Ohuy has done some geography. 1139 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 4: Well, except for completely forgetting about the city of its 1140 00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 4: Other than that. 1141 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,920 Speaker 7: Might be on the move though as well. That's that's 1142 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 7: not totally out of the range of possibility. 1143 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,320 Speaker 2: What year is that? 1144 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 7: The reason that is in the Northwest, like a Clima City, 1145 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,160 Speaker 7: or in the Midwest. They're probably Midwest, a Clama City, 1146 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 7: we know, a classic classic Northwest team. 1147 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 2: Okay, Julia, but what do you think of expansion, Like 1148 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 2: you think this is going to happen, You think these 1149 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 2: are viable spots. I mean, I think we all are 1150 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 2: Seattle getting a team back, of course, but the Vegas 1151 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:27,760 Speaker 2: portion or anything. 1152 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I it is weird that if they if the 1153 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,840 Speaker 4: Sonics left Seattle for the Thunder because they didn't like 1154 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,800 Speaker 4: the arena in Seattle, and then they go back to the 1155 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,799 Speaker 4: same arena, that will be weird. And if I were 1156 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,800 Speaker 4: a Sonics fan, it would be like it would be 1157 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 4: a little bit bittersweet, right to be like, we lost 1158 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,799 Speaker 4: our team, but now we got a team back. So 1159 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,800 Speaker 4: that's that is strange to me. It does feel like 1160 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 4: they would need a state of the art arena Vegas. 1161 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 4: They're going to do it, no problem, But I think 1162 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,439 Speaker 4: it's only a matter of time before expansion happens. Even 1163 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,759 Speaker 4: if this is just kind of you know, eyeing expansion, 1164 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,799 Speaker 4: like Lee said, it's a cash cop for all the 1165 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 4: other governors in the league, so they're certainly gonna want 1166 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 4: for it to happen just because you got to pay 1167 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,400 Speaker 4: that huge chunk of change just to even get in 1168 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:08,800 Speaker 4: the mixed. 1169 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 2: So we know the Seattle team, of course, would be 1170 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 2: named the Seattle SuperSonics. Any early ideas for the Las Vegas. 1171 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 7: Team, well just one thing though, but the Sonics wouldn't 1172 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 7: because their history is with Okay, see you no, I thought. 1173 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 2: No, they kept it. They kept it. It was like 1174 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 2: a part of the deal, you see, like, uh, they 1175 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 2: might you might see it on broadcast stuff. But I'm 1176 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 2: almost a positive that they because all the records they have, 1177 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 2: all the stuff like that. 1178 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 5: Well I hope, I hope that's true. 1179 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 7: I thought it was the other way because I thought 1180 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,240 Speaker 7: you hear like, you know they've made the finals and stuff, when. 1181 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 2: That's that's incorrect. 1182 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 5: Okay, well that's good, that's good. 1183 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,320 Speaker 6: I feel like Charlotte keeping the Hornets. 1184 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 3: But the history, you know, they went to the New Orleans. Yeah, 1185 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 3: and then they became a bobcat. 1186 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 2: That one gets really confused. 1187 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, we don't even. 1188 00:51:58,520 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 2: What do you name it? 1189 00:51:59,040 --> 00:51:59,400 Speaker 5: Vegas? 1190 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 7: Well? Yeah, what's the what's a name you would team there? 1191 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:11,120 Speaker 7: Las Vegas? Uh, well, heat has already been taken the 1192 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 7: La the Las Vegas dry because they're so dry out there. 1193 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,799 Speaker 2: You want to see the drag, Well, you. 1194 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,759 Speaker 5: Got the thunder, you got the heat, you got the sun. 1195 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,320 Speaker 7: So you know my buddy Grish, you know, he hates 1196 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 7: it in Vegas when people go, oh it's a drag. 1197 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,800 Speaker 5: Well, of course you came to Vegas, the desert exactly. 1198 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,840 Speaker 2: So he built a city in the middle of the 1199 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,760 Speaker 2: God did okay? 1200 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 7: Dry? 1201 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,760 Speaker 2: The Las Vegas dry? Can you do better than that? Yeah? 1202 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 3: I don't know what you come up with? What about 1203 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:54,959 Speaker 3: the Las Vegas lasts? Sue? I love alliteration. You could 1204 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,879 Speaker 3: see a Maverick type logo. Yeah, guy with a last suit, 1205 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 3: you horse. Nobody's really don't love that. I don't love. 1206 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 4: Would they go what they go? 1207 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:05,840 Speaker 5: Like? 1208 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 4: Gambling related? Casino relate? 1209 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,279 Speaker 2: We got aces for w n B A. 1210 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:14,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good one. So not cool, very not cool. 1211 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 4: Towers the Toronto nearly name. There's a lot of towers 1212 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 4: in Las Vegas. 1213 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,960 Speaker 2: What other Las Vegas money? 1214 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,800 Speaker 4: Money, It's called the money money when you hit a 1215 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 4: shot money. What's a good like a desert animal, like 1216 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 4: a good desert creature? 1217 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,240 Speaker 2: The hot hockey camel? What's the old nights? 1218 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 4: Oh, vipers, Las Vegas Vipers. Sounds good. 1219 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 2: That sounds like something that. 1220 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 5: Is something Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 1221 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 2: It's not like a like a weird football. 1222 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 5: Team something weird league. 1223 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm sticking with the last Who's rodeo themed? 1224 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 6: You know, maybe I'm just in the flame saddle dome mode, 1225 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:55,360 Speaker 6: But okay, Vipers. 1226 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 2: I think we can do an entire podcast on like 1227 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 2: we make it like Shark Tanks sort of presentations we 1228 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 2: come equipped with. Yeah, Las Vegas, write it down, put 1229 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 2: it in the slack, all right, Jadi, Do you have 1230 00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,920 Speaker 2: any ideas for the Las Vegas NBA team that we're 1231 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,040 Speaker 2: going to see according to the league in maybe twenty five, 1232 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 2: twenty six, definitely not twenty four. 1233 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 3: Do I have any. 1234 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 2: We're going to Vegas soon here hopefully for for summer lea. 1235 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, what about the Bamboo Boys Las. 1236 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:30,240 Speaker 4: Vegas Boys, Like, I've definitely created a team of us 1237 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 4: on an NBA two K called the Las Vegas Bamboo 1238 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 4: bo That's good love. 1239 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 3: What about the Las Vegas Bottle Services? 1240 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:43,239 Speaker 2: Oh not bad, Las Vegas. What's the cheap breakfast place 1241 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,280 Speaker 2: we go to called? All right, let's hear from everybody 1242 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,719 Speaker 2: in stream team, everybody listening, watching later, what's your best 1243 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 2: name for the Las Vegas NBA team I just had. 1244 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,719 Speaker 3: We can stay, it's a podcast, we can stick around. 1245 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 2: We could let me slip this in for our Canadian 1246 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,959 Speaker 2: fans out there, maybe Task. Okay, no one else will. 1247 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,920 Speaker 2: Toronto's Sun, you've heard. 1248 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,880 Speaker 3: Of it delivered its. 1249 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,799 Speaker 2: NBA stars commit to Canada basketball for three years. Is 1250 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,719 Speaker 2: this news? This is absolutely news. I think you would 1251 00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 2: agree with me, Tasks. 1252 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,600 Speaker 6: Sometimes the sun doesn't produce news, but that's true. 1253 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,720 Speaker 2: Good point. The senior men's national team, So Canada basketball 1254 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 2: here GM Rowan Barrett, who is father of RJ. Barrett, 1255 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,840 Speaker 2: head coach Nick Nurse. What they did here on Tuesday, 1256 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 2: I think is potentially very big news and hopefully it 1257 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,279 Speaker 2: started something special for Canada basketball, who's trying to get 1258 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,360 Speaker 2: back to the Olympics for the first time since two 1259 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 2: thousand when I was in Australia watching them play, which 1260 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,719 Speaker 2: is really bad. Yeah, but they have got a commitment here, 1261 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 2: like they're calling it a summer corps, committing three years 1262 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,880 Speaker 2: these guys, and that is awesome because you know, you 1263 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,760 Speaker 2: got to qualify and get all that, and you'll hopefully 1264 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,759 Speaker 2: sort of have some familiarity and some just having straight 1265 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,520 Speaker 2: up commitments that these guys are signed on to play 1266 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 2: for a while here. This list includes, by the way, 1267 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 2: Shake Gilds, Alexander, Jamal Murray, j Barrett, Dylan Brooks, Lou 1268 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:06,160 Speaker 2: dort Oshae Brissett, Dwight Powell, Nikhil, Alexander Walker, Kembirch and others, 1269 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,799 Speaker 2: Corey Joseph Kelly, o Linnok and all this. So they're 1270 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,879 Speaker 2: signed on here for Feeble World Cup qualifying. You got 1271 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,560 Speaker 2: next summer's Feble World Cup, and then in the summer 1272 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four the Paris Olympics, you know, hopefully 1273 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,960 Speaker 2: as they try and get there. So I think this 1274 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,399 Speaker 2: is this is obviously huge news and it's it. It's 1275 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,759 Speaker 2: trying to fix the problem task of like with canad 1276 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,439 Speaker 2: basketball at least, it's like we have all this talent 1277 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,200 Speaker 2: in the NBA, but every time we got to get 1278 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,839 Speaker 2: ready for one of these tournaments, like hey, hey, could 1279 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,319 Speaker 2: you come play for us? Like any interest? Is your 1280 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,480 Speaker 2: summer free? Could you come? Maybe give us four weeks 1281 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,560 Speaker 2: and play with some guys maybe you don't know and 1282 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 2: maybe we'll get it. Like they're saying, hey, you are 1283 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 2: on the team, and this is the other thing, people 1284 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 2: are gonna be like, where's Wiggins, Where's Tristan Thompson. From 1285 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,080 Speaker 2: what I can tell with this idea, Chris Bouchet, they 1286 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 2: could in theory play, but only if some of these commitments, 1287 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 2: these fourteen some an injury happens, they had to fall 1288 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 2: out for whatever reason, you know, things change of course 1289 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,439 Speaker 2: over the span of three years, then maybe they could play. 1290 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 2: But the like, hey you're in the little ticket first 1291 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 2: is to these guys that actually are saying you have 1292 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 2: my word that for like the next couple of years. 1293 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,840 Speaker 2: Here I'm in on this program. So I think this 1294 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 2: is really big news for Cannabastball. 1295 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 3: It is a wonderful three year commitment. 1296 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 6: Fourteen guys on that list, not just a very short list, 1297 00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,640 Speaker 6: but a pretty in depth list with a couple near 1298 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 6: All Stars and Shay Gilja, Alexander Jamal Murray. And then 1299 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 6: they just have to get their one All Star Andrew Wiggins, 1300 00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 6: remember that he's at All Star. But yeah, those guys, 1301 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 6: those fourteen guys have priority. But Wiggins and Chris Bouchet 1302 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 6: could join. I don't know if anyone's asking for Tristan 1303 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 6: tom at this point, just kid, I mean Tristan to wonderful. 1304 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 6: Probably not, I mean he's in the latter part of 1305 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 6: his career, but a three year commitment. Jokes aside, Tristan 1306 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 6: Thompson jokes aside. This is a solid team. 1307 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 3: Again. 1308 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 6: I just mentioned the couple guys who are at that 1309 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:57,920 Speaker 6: top of this list, but really good depth guys like 1310 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 6: Lou dort Down Brooks an ergy Bear. This team is stacked, 1311 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 6: isn't it so? 1312 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 7: Well? 1313 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it should be enough to make the Olympics. God, yeah, absolutely, 1314 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 2: you know metal who knows, don't worry about that? Get there? 1315 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 4: When do they actually try to qualify? That was a 1316 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,760 Speaker 4: little confusing to me because in this it says Canada 1317 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 4: basketball will draw from its extensive non NBA pool during 1318 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:26,439 Speaker 4: winter qualifying in November and February that's for I guess 1319 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 4: the FEBA Basketball World Cup qualifier, and then July first, 1320 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 4: they've got the Dominican Republic in Hamilton. July fourth they 1321 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:36,560 Speaker 4: play in the US Yeah Islands. 1322 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's confusing because you can qualify and then not 1323 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 2: have to play in particular things and stuff like that. 1324 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 2: I don't know the exact breakdown. I think the idea is, 1325 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,480 Speaker 2: I guess these big names are yeah, there for the 1326 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,960 Speaker 2: big tournaments the summer Islands. So you're right, there are 1327 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 2: other players in the system that are going to have 1328 00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,120 Speaker 2: to help them win some of these games, where not 1329 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:01,840 Speaker 2: they're going to need them to qualify for some of 1330 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,080 Speaker 2: these tournaments. But obviously this is better than not because 1331 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 2: it's hopefully getting rid of the hall, Like is that 1332 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 2: guy gonna player? Is he not going to play when 1333 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:10,480 Speaker 2: they were struggling. 1334 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,640 Speaker 4: We's got a lot of talent, but nobody knows how 1335 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,160 Speaker 4: to play together. Just come and show up in the summer, 1336 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:16,920 Speaker 4: so we have a little bit of continuity and a 1337 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 4: little bit of chemistry. 1338 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1339 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 7: And one thing as an Australian, what I love is 1340 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,320 Speaker 7: seeing Joe and Paddy and Andrew Bogo when he played, 1341 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,920 Speaker 7: and these guys always turning up for their country no 1342 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,040 Speaker 7: matter what. And that to me is what has been 1343 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 7: missing from Canada in the last decade or longer. When 1344 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 7: guys are like, I'm sorry, I'm taking my summer off. Yeah, 1345 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 7: you should be really stoked to go and play in 1346 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 7: the Olympics especially and the World Cup for your country. 1347 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 7: And if they can get a lot of these star 1348 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 7: players to commit, I think that is going to encourage 1349 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,360 Speaker 7: the other ones who were thinking about how to you like, yeah, 1350 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:48,200 Speaker 7: I want to be a part of that. 1351 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:48,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1352 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,640 Speaker 7: When Australia won the bronze last year in Tokyo, that's 1353 00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:54,080 Speaker 7: like huge moment for Australian men. I should say winning 1354 00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 7: the bronze there huge moment for basketball because we've been 1355 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 7: competing and playing for decades, not being able to win 1356 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,120 Speaker 7: and being close. So finally to break through that. Canada 1357 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,240 Speaker 7: needs to be in these tournaments. It's not good enough 1358 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,920 Speaker 7: that they're not there. So hopefully this is a change 1359 01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 7: of things any. 1360 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,840 Speaker 6: Other Yeah, I think it started. I think the prestige 1361 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 6: of this basketball organization has started. That's why you get 1362 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,040 Speaker 6: these commitments. It's happening. I think they've done a good 1363 01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:22,200 Speaker 6: job these last few years. Rome Barrett, the Nick Nurse commitment, 1364 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 6: it's happening. 1365 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to catch up to what the women 1366 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 2: are doing. Very successful at that stage. Okay, we're to 1367 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,880 Speaker 2: take our final break when we come back. Tk's got 1368 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,280 Speaker 2: tweeted the Knight, So don't go anywhere. Okay, back here 1369 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,840 Speaker 2: in the Classic Factory, it's time for tweet of the night. 1370 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:45,200 Speaker 3: Tweet of the night. Wowit a the night. 1371 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,000 Speaker 4: It's me but before we get into sway the night, 1372 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 4: I thought about my Las Vegas team name Flamingos Vegas. 1373 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 4: Flamingos and a historic casino there in Las Vegas. Also 1374 01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:01,480 Speaker 4: a weird bird tall. I think it fits perfectly. 1375 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:03,040 Speaker 3: Wants. 1376 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, Pink unis, that's very solid. 1377 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 3: That was nice. Pink is so hot right. 1378 01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:12,280 Speaker 4: Now, Pink, it's so hot right now. You see you 1379 01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 4: see the influence. 1380 01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:13,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1381 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:17,040 Speaker 6: I wonder if there are any Flamingo's there though, because 1382 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:18,920 Speaker 6: I went to I was just in Vegas and I 1383 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,600 Speaker 6: said I would love to go. I forced my wife 1384 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 6: to go see the Flamingo habitat behind the Flamingo hotel. 1385 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:30,680 Speaker 6: Not a single Flamingo, not a they're on vacation right now. 1386 01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:32,320 Speaker 4: Flies off with the one. 1387 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 3: I guess it was a winter but close enough. 1388 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 6: Anyways, there used to be there used to be a 1389 01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,000 Speaker 6: habitat back there behind the hotel, and I remember it 1390 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,440 Speaker 6: as a young lad and I really liked it. Then 1391 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,960 Speaker 6: going back years later, it's. 1392 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,200 Speaker 3: Not that nice. That hotel has been there at forever, 1393 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,040 Speaker 3: like nineteen forties. Yeah, anyways, historic, You're right, good. 1394 01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,240 Speaker 4: One, nice okay, so tweeted The night comes to us 1395 01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,919 Speaker 4: from an NBA player Joel embiid I ever heard of him? Yeah, 1396 01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:01,040 Speaker 4: he's good. Joel Troell and B tweeted last night as 1397 01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,880 Speaker 4: the Miami Heat, we're losing. Miami needs another star. 1398 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 5: What are you doing? Oh? 1399 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,919 Speaker 4: Got the Philly fans fired up, got this Miami Heat 1400 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,360 Speaker 4: fans fired up as well. But then he followed it up, 1401 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 4: Boston just has too many weapons. I wasn't just talking 1402 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,080 Speaker 4: about the Heat. I'm just watching the game, to which 1403 01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 4: he followed up once again. Okay, y'all are stupid l 1404 01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,080 Speaker 4: m a O for crying laughing emojis. 1405 01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:33,480 Speaker 7: You could misinterpret it tweet like that. Come on, he's 1406 01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,960 Speaker 7: full of of star. He was just a praising uh 1407 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,880 Speaker 7: Jimmy Butler, how he loved playing with him. Now he's 1408 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:39,720 Speaker 7: struggling and. 1409 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:46,680 Speaker 5: Poor old Joel. It's just a simple tweet, completely exactly, exactly. 1410 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 3: Not wrong, though, No, I wonder if he's. 1411 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:52,400 Speaker 5: Spoken to his front office talking. 1412 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,680 Speaker 2: So there are some funny tweets I assume going back 1413 01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:56,640 Speaker 2: Joel's way. 1414 01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:00,240 Speaker 4: I saw the clutch points like with the quickness sent 1415 01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,840 Speaker 4: a tweet of Joel in a Heat jersey playing along 1416 01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:04,920 Speaker 4: side Jimmy Butler. 1417 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:05,600 Speaker 2: How do they do it? 1418 01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:07,160 Speaker 4: How do they do it? They just got it ready. 1419 01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,360 Speaker 4: I think they just got it ready. Joel Embid is 1420 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:10,360 Speaker 4: going to be a heat at some point. 1421 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,680 Speaker 2: Wow, gir On t lock it in. 1422 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,600 Speaker 4: Yes, I would lock it in, especially once the Heat 1423 01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,120 Speaker 4: come up a little bit short. With the current version 1424 01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 4: of the team they have here, maybe you put together 1425 01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,560 Speaker 4: an expiring Kyle Lowry contract play as last season in Philadelphia, 1426 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,480 Speaker 4: bam out of Bio, a young star you can build around. 1427 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,040 Speaker 4: Joel come to Miami. Everybody works hard, everybody wants to 1428 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,479 Speaker 4: be the man. Jesus, Yes, Shaq went to Miami, didn't 1429 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,320 Speaker 4: he sure did? Oh? Interesting, all right? 1430 01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:40,920 Speaker 2: Game five Western Conference Finals tonight. Is it a gentleman sweep? 1431 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,160 Speaker 2: That's the real question, Lee, What are you watching for 1432 01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,240 Speaker 2: in Game five fear between the Warriors and the MAVs. 1433 01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,720 Speaker 7: Did the Mavericks go to Golden State just for an 1434 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,480 Speaker 7: end of season sort of trip? 1435 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:51,920 Speaker 1: You know? 1436 01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 2: Are they like a last get together? 1437 01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:55,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1438 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,400 Speaker 7: Are they like, Hey, we didn't get swept, so you know, 1439 01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:58,640 Speaker 7: it doesn't really matter. 1440 01:03:58,720 --> 01:03:59,640 Speaker 5: That's the question for me. 1441 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,560 Speaker 7: Did they im out and believe they can win, because 1442 01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,880 Speaker 7: as we saw there in Game four, they hit threes 1443 01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,760 Speaker 7: and they win the game. But to me, the Warriors 1444 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 7: also had a bit of a like we going home anyway, 1445 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,440 Speaker 7: that's you know, and the vibe around the whole night 1446 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,560 Speaker 7: wasn't there for them. So I would love it if 1447 01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,240 Speaker 7: the Mavericks could cause some chaos and get a win tonight. 1448 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,080 Speaker 7: I would love it, but I don't think it's going 1449 01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,600 Speaker 7: to happen. I think the Warriors. Look, I think the 1450 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,240 Speaker 7: Mavericks is going to play the same way. Just fire 1451 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,560 Speaker 7: away from threes and if they hit them, maybe they're 1452 01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,800 Speaker 7: a chance. But if they're stinking the joint up, this 1453 01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,160 Speaker 7: one could be over very early. 1454 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:32,840 Speaker 2: What do you think, tasor what are you watching for? 1455 01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:33,720 Speaker 5: Well? 1456 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,720 Speaker 6: I think Jason Kid has some bulletin board material. Everybody 1457 01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,280 Speaker 6: is picking, you know, not only the Warriors for the series, 1458 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,800 Speaker 6: but for this particular game. The Athletic Raiders did it 1459 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,520 Speaker 6: top to bottom, every single one, so I think Jason 1460 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,960 Speaker 6: Kidd likes to use that as motivation. I don't think 1461 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,960 Speaker 6: the MAVs are going there just to hang out to 1462 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,720 Speaker 6: be in uh San Fran one more or night. Because 1463 01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,720 Speaker 6: they impressed me in Game four and their fight level, 1464 01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,840 Speaker 6: so I the Warrior, you're gonna have to win this one. 1465 01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 6: Mats aren't giving it away, but I do believe in 1466 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:05,160 Speaker 6: I do believe the Warriors are going to get it 1467 01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,640 Speaker 6: done as well. But hopefully Ja Kid puts that Athletic 1468 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,280 Speaker 6: article right on the bolletin board because I think I 1469 01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,560 Speaker 6: think anything can help right now, anything can help. 1470 01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 2: Do you think when he puts it up, he goes, 1471 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:19,320 Speaker 2: this is from the Athletic because anybody heard it. 1472 01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:21,479 Speaker 3: The Athletic headquarters are right there. 1473 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,520 Speaker 2: Trey, give me something to watch for game five tonight. 1474 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:28,520 Speaker 4: You keep your eyes on the MAVs dribble penetration. They 1475 01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:32,000 Speaker 4: did well against the zone and man in game four. 1476 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,520 Speaker 4: I like what Jason Kidd said afterwards. Nice thing about 1477 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,360 Speaker 4: them playing zone is it means they can't guard us 1478 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,440 Speaker 4: one on one. Oh bars from Jason Kidd. It's kind 1479 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:39,720 Speaker 4: of true. 1480 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:39,880 Speaker 7: Though. 1481 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:41,919 Speaker 4: They did a really good job I thought in game 1482 01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:45,440 Speaker 4: four of basically forcing the switch and making Steph Curry 1483 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,840 Speaker 4: have to guard on the defensive end. They would bring 1484 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:50,720 Speaker 4: it up, they would flip the guy at the last second, 1485 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,000 Speaker 4: so Curry was trying to do a little help. Suddenly 1486 01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:54,880 Speaker 4: he has to actually be the guy guarding. And then, 1487 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:58,160 Speaker 4: like we talked about yesterday's show, overload against the zone 1488 01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,919 Speaker 4: was working. Now it feels like perhaps the Warriors found 1489 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,360 Speaker 4: a solution to that in the fourth quarter. They started 1490 01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,720 Speaker 4: just basically playing a lot harder to take away the 1491 01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,480 Speaker 4: corner threes. But the MAVs getting into the paint got 1492 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,960 Speaker 4: them a lot better looks from the three point line, 1493 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:13,680 Speaker 4: so they got to score inside, they got to score 1494 01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,880 Speaker 4: from outside, they got to play a perfect game. We've 1495 01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 4: seen it once basically from the MAVs so far, and 1496 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,320 Speaker 4: even that was a harrowing fourth quarter. So we shall 1497 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 4: see how things play out tonight. I would be leaning Warriors. 1498 01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,480 Speaker 2: Yes, I am also leaning Warriors. Top hats out, gentlemen sweep. 1499 01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,800 Speaker 2: But let's hear from everybody predictions. Drop me in the stream, team, 1500 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,360 Speaker 2: leave them in the comments. Who's winning game five tonight? 1501 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,560 Speaker 2: We'll be back tomorrow, will break it all down. We're 1502 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,480 Speaker 2: back later to talk Survivor over on the No Buffs 1503 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,160 Speaker 2: YouTube feed, and it will be flipped into a podcast 1504 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,720 Speaker 2: soon after that talking about last night's season finale of 1505 01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,480 Speaker 2: Survivor forty two. So join us there. 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