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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. Holl that for me. I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the solid verbal Boys and girls. My

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Speaker 2: name is ty Hillebrand, joining me as always over there

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Speaker 2: in beautiful Chicago, Illinois.

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Speaker 1: The one, the only, the.

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Speaker 2: Illustrious, the incomparable, the man with the plan. Dan Rubenstein, sir,

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Speaker 2: how are you? I'm good, But today's show is not

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Speaker 2: about me. It's about us for sure, but.

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Speaker 1: It's not necessarily about your guy. Damn. I am thrilled

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Speaker 1: to be here today as always. I actually took a

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Speaker 1: excited for the show. We are continuing questions we've got.

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Speaker 1: We were sort of inundated with questions via all of

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Speaker 1: so we figured we'd answer a bunch of questions. But

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Speaker 1: it's also a pretty big news day for the solid verbal,

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Speaker 1: is it not? It is?

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Speaker 2: Indeed, we will get into our news here momentarily. A

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Speaker 2: lot to report. We've been very busy this off season

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Speaker 2: planning out all sorts of fun things for all y'all,

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Speaker 2: on the newsletter Wink Wink, nudge nudge, Big news day.

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Speaker 2: Whoa at SVHQ Dan, Yes, I would say so myself. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: why don't we just get into it.

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Speaker 1: We have Brooket News.

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Speaker 2: So first and foremost we should add that starting next week,

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Speaker 2: we are going to switch up our cadence. You're only

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Speaker 2: gonna get two shows next week, but those two shows

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Speaker 2: But starting next Friday, we are kicking things off with

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Speaker 2: our ACC preview, the first of two ACC.

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Speaker 1: Previews Bop Bup, Bup, Bup, Bye Up ACC and American

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Speaker 2: the AAC. Yeah, yeah, we have broken all the Power

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Speaker 1: Yes, this is is this the biggest piece of news

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Speaker 1: Morris have a lot of success with Arkansas in the

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Speaker 1: Big Twelve? Probably not? Probably not, So they're still running

437
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Speaker 1: into some of those same issues. Where are we going

438
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Speaker 1: next here? You tell me you're the big big news

439
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Speaker 1: tie here, big big news tie. Yeah, this is the

440
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Speaker 1: big news show on the solid verbal. TJ wants to

441
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: know if it's going to be Dino Baber's last year

442
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Speaker 1: at Syracuse. TJ.

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Speaker 2: Longtime listener of the solid verb, Right, TJ. What can

444
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Speaker 2: Dino realistically do to save himself?

445
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Speaker 1: All right?

446
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Speaker 2: So I have two questions about this. First off, how

447
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Speaker 2: much of a quick hook does Syracuse have slash should

448
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Speaker 2: they have if they're being realistic about their football program?

449
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 2: And I don't mean that in a demeaning way, but

450
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 2: it is Syracuse, but there's not a whole lot of

451
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 2: recent success to hang your hat on. And secondly, if

452
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Speaker 2: not Dino, then who where would you go? If not

453
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Speaker 2: Dino Baber's I happen to like Dino Baber is a

454
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: great deal. What does he have to do? I think

455
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: he has to show some sort of forward momentum. They

456
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: are still kind of digging out from the grungy Eric

457
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 2: Dungeon years, and by digging out, I mean trying to

458
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Speaker 2: re establish themselves, trying to plant the new tent pole

459
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Speaker 2: around which they can build, around which they can establish

460
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Speaker 2: some momentum that has not happened yet. So what are

461
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Speaker 2: your thoughts here?

462
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Speaker 1: I think it just sort of a dollars and cents thing.

463
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Speaker 1: I'm saying this right now. The buyout this is as

464
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Speaker 1: of last fall, Babers reportedly. This is from Daily Orange

465
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Speaker 1: dot com. Baber's reportedly has four years remaining on a

466
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Speaker 1: contract extension he signed two years ago, and a buyout

467
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 1: could cost more than seventeen million dollars. Wild Hack John Wildhack,

468
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: former ESPN higher up who's now running the Syracuse Athletic Department,

469
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Speaker 1: said he and Babers will meet after this season evaluate

470
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: what went wrong, as they do every year. So even

471
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Speaker 1: if that buyout is coming down, has come down, you know,

472
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Speaker 1: maybe there's a clause that you know, as of January

473
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Speaker 1: one or whatever, if he's still the coach. Even if

474
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Speaker 1: it has come down, it's probably in the double digits.

475
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Speaker 1: And now is not an amazing time for a very

476
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Speaker 1: down program as Syracuse has become since their success a

477
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, to cut that kind of check. So, man,

478
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: if if they are disaster once again, and I always

479
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: look to the side of the ball where the head

480
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: coach has history, fair or not, and his offensive history.

481
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Speaker 1: And they talked about, you know, playing with pace and

482
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: like a power spread, we're going to go deep, but

483
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 1: then we're going to hit people with the eye and

484
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: like it just hasn't worked. They're like last year's defense

485
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: showed some signs of life and I like the high

486
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: art coordinator they made there. But even still, you look

487
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Speaker 1: to recruiting for potential energy in the future, and that

488
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 1: hasn't necessarily been lately. So what would it take, I

489
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: mean anything short of a bowl game. I think there's

490
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: a good chance that he is looking for a new gig.

491
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Speaker 1: But man, that's it's a big, big check to cut.

492
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: It's a big check. That's a lot. He had recent success.

493
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Speaker 1: But if there's any element of Syracuse football that and

494
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: I like this word a lot, is a calamity this

495
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: ball in the way that their offense has been and

496
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: I know they've been snake bitten and they were missing

497
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 1: players and you know, so I think the excuses will

498
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: be less so this year in terms of how you know,

499
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: meaningful those excuses are. But if if it's just a

500
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Speaker 1: disaster on offense, once again, I don't know what there

501
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: is beyond the cash you would owe him to say

502
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: we got to keep this thing going. Yeah, I don't know.

503
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Speaker 2: Let's go to Alec. This is a question that I

504
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 2: feel like we've addressed in some way, shape or form

505
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 2: over the last couple months. But it's a good thought experiment.

506
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Speaker 2: We're really just we're using We're using the bean today.

507
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: Dan got a lot going on. We're excited. Let's talk

508
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 2: about potential Nick Saban replacements, if and when he's changed, and.

509
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Speaker 1: Is has anything changed in your mind this offseason about

510
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: Nick Saban's long term viability viability is the wrong word,

511
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: but his long term plan and who might replace him? No, No,

512
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: I mean.

513
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Speaker 2: Nobody to me gives me a great answer. Okay, and

514
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 2: I guess I guess the most obvious would be, Well,

515
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: here here's the question. So the question is, with sark

516
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: off to Texas, with Dabo entrenched at Clemson, is Mario

517
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: Cristobal the favorite to replace Nick Saban someday? The question

518
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: might not be answered for some time with Saban's new contract,

519
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: but I can't decide if I think he'll make it

520
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: all the way to twenty twenty nines, twenty twenty nine,

521
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: eight years from now, hold Saban gonna be in that case,

522
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: he can be like eighty years old or close to it.

523
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Speaker 1: What you're saying twenty twenty nine.

524
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Speaker 2: I can't decide if I think he'll make it all

525
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: the way to twenty twenty nine.

526
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was Alex's question. So Nick Saban is currently

527
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: sixty nine years old. His birthday's on Halloween, So in

528
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: twenty twenty nine, if my math works, so he's turning

529
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Speaker 1: seventy this year, So in eight years he'll be seventy

530
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Speaker 1: eight years old. Seventy eight years old, Yeah, okay, during

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Speaker 1: the season, he'll be turning seventy eight. Saban could make

532
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: it to seventy eight as head coach of Bama. Good

533
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: because the program's clearly at critical mass at this point.

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Speaker 2: It recruits itself. I'm not saying it's easy to maintain

535
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: this level of just incredible prodentiality and yeah, yeah, everything

536
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: about it's nearly impossible on any other in any other context.

537
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Speaker 2: But because he has shown such a proclivity to bring

538
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: in new assistance here over year maintain that high production,

539
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: he's a guy who could do it. He could do it,

540
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Speaker 2: and I don't think it would It would be any

541
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Speaker 2: any just greater feat than we've already seen. So it's

542
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: possible that he could stick around. But let's go through

543
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 2: the exercise. Nick Saban announces, let's say two years from now,

544
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Speaker 2: that he's retiring, Dabo Sweeney presumably is going to continue

545
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: his glide path at Clemson because recruiting has been strong.

546
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Speaker 2: Let's also give Sark benefit of the doubt. Let's give

547
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: Mary Chrystopaul benefit of the doubt because recruiting has been

548
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: strong at organ as well. And let's as Sark can

549
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 2: more difficult for sure at Oregon to recruit a top

550
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: five class than it is in Tuscaloosa. But yes, correct,

551
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Speaker 2: So I guess my question would be if you are

552
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Speaker 2: if you are Alabama and you know that there is

553
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Speaker 2: a tie in with Dabo Swinny, isn't he your first call?

554
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: Probably? But you know, we're not privy to the relationship

555
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: behind the scenes between you know, the ad and Dabbo

556
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: and the moneyed people and Dabbo and seeing as how

557
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: they they clash the national championships, and what they think

558
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: the optics are of going after him to lead your

559
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: program after battling. I know Saban and Dabo are pretty

560
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: friendly and they have vacation together, but I almost don't

561
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: think we know the name yet, Like I don't think

562
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: like I think Alabama in the way that you know,

563
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: Richrod was that up and comer and obviously wasn't hired

564
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: way back in two thousand and seven. But it's going

565
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: to be somebody, probably on the younger side, who's proven

566
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Speaker 1: an ability to win big and recruit really well. I

567
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,479
Speaker 1: don't know if it's Clink and Riley, because I think

568
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: the Oklahoma job is a pretty uniquely amazing position. But

569
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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be somebody on the younger side.

570
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: And you know, if it's Mario Chris Paul, who is

571
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: you know, younger but not that young, that's an impossible job.

572
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: And so Mario christ of all has or Mario as

573
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: it were, has a pretty amazing path to the postseason

574
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: right now in the Pac twelve as it's currently constituted.

575
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: Maybe USC eventually hires a killer in Washington, you know,

576
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: has a you know, whether it's a Jimmy Lake or

577
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: somebody else, And I don't know, whatever the path, maybe

578
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: it gets increasingly difficult. But traditionally it's only been one

579
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: or two teams at the top of the PAC twelve,

580
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: not a situation like where the SEC has you know,

581
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: up Lsu years and up Floorida years and up Georgia

582
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: years and up Auburn years. So whoever it is has

583
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: to know that they're going to make ten million dollars

584
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Speaker 1: a year and whatever happens happens, because following Saban is

585
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: just you're setting yourself up for failure. So you know,

586
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: if if that's I'm I'm saying that, I am not

587
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: saying it's going to be a coach who only is

588
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: doing it for the cash, But that's going to be

589
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: an element of knowing you're set up to fail given

590
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: the expectations, the other worldly, unprecedented expectations in Tuscaloosa. So

591
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's probably not going to be somebody like

592
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: Ryan Day, probably not going to be somebody like Lincoln Riley.

593
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: I really do believe that it's going to be a

594
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: name of somebody that is currently thirty eight to forty four, okay,

595
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: and whether that's Matt Campbell, whether that's my guy Jeff Hafley, boy.

596
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: You know, like, I think it's going to be from

597
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: that generation of coaches, and whoever ends up looking like

598
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: the sort of top of that pyramid, I think that's

599
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: who is ultimately going to get that gig. But I

600
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: think there's going to be more wariness than expected because

601
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: of the job Nick Saban is done getting everybody in

602
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: line in Tuscaloosa and in the Alabama football universe behind

603
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: him that he's able to exceed expectations. Almost it's just

604
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: who what ever gets that job is going to be fired. Yeah,

605
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think. I don't think you need

606
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: to go super youthful with that selection. I think by

607
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: then they won't be youthful. I'm saying right now they're

608
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: like thirty eight to forty four, right, But I'm saying

609
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: two years, let's say two or three years from now.

610
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: I don't know.

611
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 2: Ipothetically speaking, I don't think you need to go crazy

612
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: young with your coaching selection. I think you need to

613
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 2: have somebody in place who you know can continue the momentum.

614
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 2: That's the most important thing, because they have again achieved

615
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: this incredible success over the last decade under Saban that

616
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: I think they are, more than anything, just craving to

617
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 2: maintain at that point. And so I think it's a

618
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 2: guy who's got familiarity with Nick Saban and how he

619
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: went about things. You're trying to keep continuity in place

620
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 2: as much as possible. Whether that's a guy like a Sark,

621
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Speaker 2: Maybe you go back after him. Maybe that's a guy

622
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: like a Mariot crystobaal who's been on the staff. Lord

623
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: knows pretty much everybody's been on I don't at this point.

624
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of guys who end up

625
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: leaving Tuscaloosa by their own choice, because that's what ends

626
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: up happening a lot of the time, because they have

627
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: this shine on them from coaching at Alabama. I don't

628
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: know how many of them actually look back fondly at

629
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: their time at Alabama. Yeah, I mean it's it's if

630
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: they were being responsible about it, and if Nick Saban

631
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: was talking to leadership about what his own exit strategy is, right,

632
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 1: presumably they could go the root of naming the coach

633
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: in waiting and work on that transition plan gradually over

634
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: the course of time.

635
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's going to happen. I don't

636
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: know where Saban's at, but I would hope that for

637
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: Alabama's sake, Nick Saban would have that plan in motion

638
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: because he's a guy who he's a planful guy. Dan

639
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 2: this is the man of the plan for sure, so

640
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: I'm guessing he's given it some thought. Maybe he's got

641
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: some suitors in mind, and I would help for lou

642
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: Poi toshakoy. I would hope for the sake of the

643
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: BAMA program that they would have some sort of succession

644
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: plan that they could enact. But it's a look, it's

645
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: an interesting thought experiment. My guess is that we'll have

646
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: that conversation many many times over right before it actually

647
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: comes to fruition. Why don't we stay in the sec? Dan,

648
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: This is a good question from.

649
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: Mill of time, Dan Miller time, yeap.

650
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: Why do so many assume that LSU will automatically rebound

651
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 2: to a new Year's six level in twenty twenty one.

652
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: I get the talent and experience, but LSU has finished

653
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 2: with ten or more wins and at top twelve ranking

654
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: just twice in the last seven years, and they are

655
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: breaking in two young first time coordinators twenty nineteen and

656
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: even twenty eighteen are outliers. This feels like, ooh, this stinks.

657
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: This feels like gene Chiswick two point zero. Dan, Oh,

658
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: come on, everybody so quick to compare a situation to

659
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: gene Chiswick or a man who's the other coach? That

660
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: who's the guy now? I'm blanking on his name. The

661
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: Miami coach who followed, Butch Davis, who was out after

662
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: a few years, just couldn't keep it. Larry, Larry, Larry Cocher, Larry,

663
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 1: thank you. Everybody's very quick. Next Coker.

664
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: Interesting, interesting common ground though here neither Jeene Chiswick nor

665
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 2: at Orgeron have any sideburns.

666
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: Is that true? At Origeron's are as short as Chiswick's.

667
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 2: I believe now negative sideburns, which isn't really Jean Chiswick was.

668
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: It was up at eye level coach os sideburns situation,

669
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: it's not. It's it's similar, not as pronounced. Maybe that's

670
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: a head shape thing, but it's similar.

671
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 2: You're right, So for what it's worth in a battle Royale,

672
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: I take Coacho over Geen Chikay, no doubt about it.

673
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: The sideburns are comparable. And clearly we're at a stage

674
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 2: now with LSU football, in the wake of the Joe

675
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: Burrow era, in the wake of the Joe Brady era,

676
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: in the wake of twenty twenty and the uncertainty where

677
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 2: you know, there is some question around where where's this

678
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: thing headed. I think recruiting has still been strong. I

679
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: think there's a lot of reason to be optimistic. It

680
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: feels like they started to pull it together down the

681
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: stretch last season with Max Johnson in there at quarterback.

682
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: But Gene Chizzwick two point oh dan, that is woo.

683
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: That cuts to the bone, right, it does. Jeane Chiswick

684
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: made some pretty bad hires after losing gusmels On and

685
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: took the offense in a not great place but recruited

686
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: pretty well. The problem with that comparison is ed Origroon

687
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: quickly made the change and he is not the greatest

688
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: track record of finding coaches on either side of the ball,

689
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: coordinators on either side of the ball that just weren't

690
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: fits for a ten win season. And even though you

691
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: know Mack Cannada's offense at LSU had its moments, it

692
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: wasn't a fit with that Orizron and then following Joe

693
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: Brady was going to be pretty impossible. But the combination

694
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: of a new ish look offense, it wasn't that new look,

695
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: but it was, you know, there were new ideas in

696
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: that offense and quarterback injuries and rawness to the quarterback position.

697
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: I thought Miles Brannan was pretty good. The defense was

698
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: a nightmare aains Mississippi State to open the year. So

699
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: if the defense comes back to anywhere near where it

700
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: should be given the talent level and given the schedule

701
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: this year, I mean, you can stop me when I

702
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: get to a quarterback that legitimately scares you. U CLA

703
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: McNeice Central Michigan. I think that's kind of scary, just

704
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: because mca owayn's doing a pretty good job there. But

705
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm not worried. It's at LSU, Auburn, Kentucky, Florida, Ole,

706
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: miss Yeah, that's a quarterback that should scare you, Matt Corrall,

707
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: and it's on the road. We'll see about Bryce Young

708
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: in the quarterback situation. Tusclose, but we don't know yet Arkansas, Monroe, A,

709
00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: and m SO right now. The number of proven scaryquarterbacks

710
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: and LSU schedule isn't all that high right now. And

711
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: I think there's just a general assumption that the mistakes,

712
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: given everything that goes into the program and given the

713
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: guys that they got recommendations from regarding these new coordinators,

714
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: I think there's just this assumption that the injury luck

715
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: is going to bounce back. You know, Derek Stingley was

716
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: dealing with some pretty it was hospitalized the night before

717
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: that Mississippi State game, like there were key dudes who

718
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: were dealing with some really serious stuff. So I think

719
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: there is just that assumption that even if LSU traditionally

720
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 1: is not winning ten eleven games a year, that given

721
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: where they are as compared to the changes and newness

722
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: of the rest of the SEC, that LSU is in

723
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: a pretty good spot. They've got one of the best

724
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: receivers in the country to me and Keisham Boutet, and

725
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: I think there's opportunity there for a poor man's twenty nineteen.

726
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: Is that nine wins? Is it eleven? I don't know,

727
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: but I think we're going to see notes of it

728
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. And we know Dave

729
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: Randa is an incredible defensive coordinator, and you know, matching

730
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: what he was able to do it else he was

731
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: going to be very difficult. But it's a really nice

732
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: starting point considering the too deep on that defense. So

733
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: I don't think the same mistakes we made on defense,

734
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: and I think they will be healthier on offense, which

735
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: I think leads to a certain degree of optimism.

736
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: I thought we had a blanket policy on this show

737
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: that whenever you said Dave Randa's name, you had to

738
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 2: use you had to use the lego batman voice.

739
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: Thank you.

740
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: Look, there is some I think, real discussion to be

741
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: had around where LSU goes from here. Remember what the

742
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: conversation was going into that incredible once in a generation

743
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: season that they had where they ran the table and

744
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: won the championship and Joe Burrow went on to the

745
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy in the first overall draft pick. Do you

746
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 2: remember what the conversation was going into that season. The

747
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: conversation was, we got to fix this offense, and the

748
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: conversation was, maybe Joe Bray he can do it, and

749
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 2: perhaps ed Orgeron is self aware enough as a coach

750
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: to realize the air in his ways, the flaws of

751
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: the system, and he's gonna go out and he's going

752
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: to try and get better on offense. Now that worked beautifully, obviously, but.

753
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: It's a bit of a cry wolf situation because what

754
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: do we hear every August from every camp, Oh, this

755
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: guy like this guy succeeded at the Manning Passing Academy.

756
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: Thank you, this is there. We're really going to open

757
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: it up this night. Well, That's why we joke about

758
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: new coordinators and new strength coaches attacking mentality. Right defense,

759
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: it's really hard to parse, you know, if you can

760
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: get practice reports behind the scenes and not necessarily writers

761
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: saying you know, sort of just printing what coaches are

762
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: saying without offering you know, better sourcing, it's really hard

763
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: to believe what is actually true and what's not until

764
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: the live bullets start flying. That's one hundred percent the

765
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: case and that and that's my point here with the

766
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: origon So we definitely caught lightning in a bottle the

767
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: year with Joe Burrow when they want everything and they

768
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: were all world everything, and they were incredible once in

769
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: a generation, no doubt about it. Gonna pay no doubt

770
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: about it. It's gonna play with tempo but right, but

771
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: much the way.

772
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: The next guy after Saban has an incredible impossible act

773
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 2: to follow. I feel like we're kind of in that

774
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: territory now with LSU. How do you build upon that

775
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: once in a generation season. They've got some momentum from it,

776
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: but it's a tough act to follow, and I fear

777
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: for Ed Orgeron that no matter how well they do,

778
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: if they don't live up to that billing. It's it's

779
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: gonna leave fans underwhelmed because it's so close in the

780
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: rear view mirror.

781
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

782
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: I think there is a real likelihood that there's a

783
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: solid bounce back from some uncertainty a year ago, but

784
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 2: it's just not enough to appease the fan base, and

785
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: that's what I worry about. I root for Amu, I

786
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: root for coach O, but I feel like that is

787
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: a probability at this point, just given how high the

788
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: heights were a.

789
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: Couple seasons ago. Yeah, I mean it's it's basically we're

790
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 1: going to come down if there's not a special situation

791
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: at quarterback with Lso we're going to be having similar

792
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: conversations as to what we had in twenty thirteen, fourteen, whatever,

793
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: where it's how long can they go nine and three

794
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: and keep coaching? It is okay, how long can they

795
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: keep how long can they keep going nine and three?

796
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 1: And you know that that might become the question or

797
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: I mean until they get to Bama, all of those

798
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: games on paper are winnable, and then after Bama it's

799
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: Arkansas at home, Monroe at home, A and m at home. No, Okay,

800
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: let's go to Christoph for our purposes here, can we

801
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: just assume it is Ed Harris's character in the Truman

802
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: Show always, That's where I was going with it.

803
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 2: We're in the backwards beret. Let's just assume it's the

804
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: same Christoff.

805
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: He says.

806
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: Next year, James Franklaris is at USC. Okay, Matt Campbell's

807
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 2: at Michigan. Luke Fickles at Penn State. Who has the

808
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 2: most success going forward, let's say by twenty twenty five.

809
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 2: So this pretty big coaching carousel here. Sure, if Franklin

810
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 2: goes to USC, which has been rumored for a long time,

811
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if that happens. I don't think Franklin's

812
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: the right move for USC. If I'm being honest, Recruiting

813
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: talent is not their problem. That's what Franklin does well.

814
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 2: But that's a separate conversation. He's hired good coordinators. Though

815
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: he's hired good coordinators.

816
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: Sure, I enjoyed the work of Shoop and Brent Prye,

817
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: okay and Joe moorehead Yeah, Okay, Fine, that's a separate conversation.

818
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: Franklin goes to USC, Campbell goes to Michigan, Luke Fickles

819
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: at Penn State. Who has the most success going forward?

820
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: Let's say by twenty twenty five. Well, only one of

821
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: those teams as Ohio State in their division, so there's

822
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: the roadblock element. Or excuse me, two of those teams,

823
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: excuse me, the Michigan and Penn State. I would probably

824
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: say James Franklin at USC has the most success. I

825
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,959
Speaker 1: think I would agree with that as well. I don't

826
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: believe USC. I mean, they have annual Notre Dame, but

827
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: they haven't scheduled any big headline September games against Power

828
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: five opponents. You know, I don't believe there's any sort

829
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: of Texas Alabama in Michigan, any of those kinds of

830
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 1: matchups on their non conference light over these next few years.

831
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 1: So that's a nice element for your final record. Fickle

832
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: at Penn State, I think would succeed, and I think

833
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: Matt Campbell at Michigan woulducceed. I think they all block. Yeah,

834
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: I think they'd all do well.

835
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 2: The problem with a question like this, and we get

836
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: a thousand of them every time we open up the inbox.

837
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 2: If you're looking four years down the line, you have

838
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 2: to play a logical a probability game, and that game

839
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: is exactly what you said. Who has the fewest land mines?

840
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: The answer is USC. USC has a built in talent

841
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: advantage being in southern California. If they brought James Franklin over,

842
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 2: they would clearly have a very gifted recruiter. Say what

843
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 2: you want about Franklin, he may not be the best.

844
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: Inside two minutes, the dude can recruit.

845
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: No, he recruits and hires really well.

846
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 2: He recruits and he hires really well, and so that

847
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: would be an attractive spot if you are a top

848
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 2: recruit to go and play for Franklin in LA. Fewer

849
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 2: land mines for sure. I think Matt Campbe will be

850
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: great at Michigan. I think Luke Fickle will be fine

851
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: wherever he went, be at Penn State or anywhere else.

852
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: But for sure, the fewest land mines to success in

853
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, definitely USC.

854
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: Okay. But so there's the expectation at all three of

855
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: those programs, especially if the playoff goes to twelve and

856
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, that these teams consistently are in or

857
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: near the playoff. Yeah, that they should be nothing less

858
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: than top twelve ish annually right, Yeah, no, for sure,

859
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: considering the advantages that Michigan, USC and Penn State have.

860
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, Ohio State is a roadblock and USC in

861
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: the conference only really appears to have one major nationalist roadblock,

862
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: which is Oregon, and that's the other side of the conference.

863
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: Michigan has work to do. But if they only lose

864
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: to Ohio State, they'll make the playoff every year.

865
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: Right.

866
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: If they lose to Penn State and Ohio State, it's trickier,

867
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: but there will be years where they they're in that

868
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: playoff conversation, and they should do no worse than you know,

869
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: splitting every you know, winning every other year against each other,

870
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: Penn State and Michigan, given how strong those programs could

871
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: be with the right coach. So we're still talking about

872
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: the best of all three of those guys being a

873
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: playoff caliber team I think right now, given what the

874
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: divisions look like, because if I mean, if Luke Fickles

875
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: at Penn State and Matt Campbell's at Michigan, they're playing

876
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: each other. So if they're hitting their ceilings as well,

877
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: that's a really tough division along with Ryan Day and

878
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: Ohio State presuming he's still there. So I have more

879
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: faith that the Big ten East will be more difficult

880
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,479
Speaker 1: to navigate long term. I agree with that with those

881
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: three coaches. I agree with that than what the PAC

882
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: twelve South's outlook is, which is beware a Jedfish. Everyone's

883
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: talking about Jedfish. He's actually recruiting pretty well all things considered, like,

884
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 1: there is decent energy in Tucson, but things are uncertain

885
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: right now in Tempe considering some of the allegations. We

886
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: know Kyle Whittingham is going to feeld a very good

887
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: team more often than not, but that generally has a

888
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: December ceiling. And I guess we'll wait and see on Colorado,

889
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: but I don't think the expectations are super high there.

890
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think of a USC, even at eighty

891
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: nine point two percent capacity, he is winning the South

892
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: every year.

893
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 2: You know why this question is is moot from the jump?

894
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: Why Because we agreed several months ago. Clay Helton's going

895
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 2: to coach forever. He's never getting fired at USC. Oh man, folks,

896
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 2: He's never getting fired at USC right now.

897
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: Well, I mean the big problem with USC is just

898
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: full university buy in with football.

899
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 2: That's full university buy in with football. Sure, but he's

900
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 2: never getting fired. I hope people realize that God never

901
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 2: going to happen.

902
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: Thrilled? Where do we want to go next? Where do

903
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: we want to go next? You get to pick k

904
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: I wants to know which or what college football game

905
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: this year? Would you advise that I planned my bachelor

906
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: party around attending. Please factor in location, game hype, accessibility,

907
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: and tailgating contacts. I'm a Notre Dame alum living in

908
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: New York. I'd prefer to do a Notre Dame game,

909
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: but I'm struggling to find a home weekend that works

910
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: with my schedule due to weddings and other obligations. I

911
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: work broadly in higher education. A lot of my job

912
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: involves visiting university campuses, which I love, so I'm considering

913
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: opening it up to any college football game. Would love

914
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: to hear your thoughts. Just go to whatever Texas game

915
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: you want to go to. Notre Dame Wisconsin in Chicago,

916
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. You got to go. It's late September, right, yeah, Okay,

917
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: September sales Twitch. My sales pitch with Chicago is it

918
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: could be really nice in late September. You never know, though,

919
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: it could be really nice. If you want to go

920
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: out on a lake, there's a lake right there. It's

921
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: easy to get back in the city.

922
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 2: He's in New Yorky City to get to so it's

923
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 2: a it's a quick flight over to Chicago. I think

924
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 2: it should be pretty nice in Chicago and to September.

925
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 2: You're not talking snowflurry. So the only problem with it

926
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 2: is you're not going to a college town. You're not

927
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: going to a college town. But he said that he

928
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 2: works broadly in higher education and his job involves visiting

929
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: university campuses, so maybe he doesn't feel the need to

930
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 2: scratch that itch to go to a campus to watch

931
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: a game. Go to Soldier Field, go to Soldier Field,

932
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, Wisconsin, Undel.

933
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,439
Speaker 1: You can you can go to breweries, you can play

934
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: golf if you want a golf, you can eat crazy

935
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: well in Chicago, you can see Notre Dame Wisconsin, which

936
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 1: legitimately should be a very good game.

937
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

938
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: The only the only down part is it might be blustery,

939
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: which is never the most fastory. Though at the end

940
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: of September in Chicago, ty it's the windy city. Okay, true,

941
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: that's that's a reference to politics. But it is the

942
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: windy city. I'm a big fan of Chicago, but I

943
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: could see why Chicago is not the most popular destination

944
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: for bachelor party.

945
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 2: If you are if you, yeah, if you, that's also

946
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 2: a good point. But I'm just saying, if you're a

947
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 2: Notre Dame alam, if you're living in New York, if

948
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 2: you already have your fill of college campuses, go to

949
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 2: some place easy to get to. You know, it's a

950
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 2: big game. Notre Dame Wisconsin should be a big game.

951
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 2: The jack Cone Bowl.

952
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: We're very excited about the jack Cone Bowl here at saliverbo.

953
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: Go to Chicago. Go to Chicago, get Dan Dan, cook

954
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 1: him a pizza. You'll do that a full hotels. Well,

955
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: he's got a whole bachelor party. It's not just one pizza.

956
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: You just cook one pizza. One pizza everybody. It's a slice.

957
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: Oh man. Yeah, I just I always like going somewhere

958
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 1: warm with a bachelor party. Well, you're from California, there's nothing. Yeah,

959
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: Arizona is a nice bachelor party destination, but I don't

960
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: think there's a huge, huge game going on in Arizona.

961
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: In September is still really really hot. But yeah, if

962
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: you want to get out on some water. And if

963
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 1: you want a golf you can do that most places.

964
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: If you want to eat well, you can do that

965
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: most places. And if seeing Notre Dame football is important

966
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: to him, and maybe he went to Notre Dame and

967
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: has a bunch of Notre Dame buddies, so it's important

968
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: to that group. Yeah, it makes sense.

969
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: Go to go to Chicago late September, not name Wisconsin.

970
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 2: That'd be a great tailgating scene, right, I would think

971
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 2: that'd be an amazing tailgating scene.

972
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: I have no idea what the parking lot is like

973
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: around Soldier Fields. It's never the same inside of a

974
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: city in terms of room and energy.

975
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 2: But true, true, but that's a wee eat well you

976
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 2: can you can eat well, you can play in around

977
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 2: that game.

978
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: Let's go one or two more island. There's a brewery

979
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: on an island in the middle of the city island. Yeah,

980
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 1: I got the IPA downstairs.

981
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 2: All right, let's go one more football and then I

982
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 2: want to ask my show Hey Otani question.

983
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, you have a lot of what I would

984
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: consider to be problematic show Hey Otani thoughts. But let's

985
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: go we'll get that, Okay, do I cool. Where do

986
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: we want to go into a very topical thing to say,

987
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 1: let's see what opinion about the sport has changed as

988
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: you got older? That's from D Smith? What a D Smith?

989
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: What opinion about the sport has changed? You out older?

990
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: I've talked about my postseason thing where Yeah, that's that's

991
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: the worst wistful.

992
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 2: It's the worst opinion you've ever had. But I still

993
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,720
Speaker 2: love you and now I'm around now. Now my success

994
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 2: is tied to your success, so I have to try

995
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: and be nice to you about it, which I'll continue

996
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 2: to do. I grew up with a mother who was

997
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 2: a lifelong educator mm hmm, taught school for thirty some

998
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: odd years before retiring, and so much of my programming

999
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 2: as a lad as a ute as a developing college

1000
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 2: football fan, was around the value of a scholarship and

1001
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 2: that a scholarship was good enough.

1002
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: A scholarship should be good.

1003
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 2: Enough for some of these student athletes moving on playing

1004
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 2: at the next level. They should be proud to have

1005
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 2: that scholarship.

1006
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: It has value.

1007
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that opinion for me has drastically changed over the

1008
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 2: years that I've been doing this show, that we've been

1009
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 2: doing this show together, and you know, I'm not going

1010
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 2: to act like we're privy to any kind of advanced

1011
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 2: intel or we see the world through a different lens

1012
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 2: now that we're doing this show. Maybe that's a little

1013
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 2: bit true. But I just feel like, over the course

1014
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: of time, as you see these billion dollar deals that

1015
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 2: are being signed by works to cover the games, as you.

1016
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: Shoe companies with the schools, yeah, some huge ones.

1017
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and I think more importantly as maybe

1018
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 2: the closer you get to this, the more you realize

1019
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 2: how much these institutions own, truly own, these student athletes.

1020
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 2: Every waking moment is given to the program given to

1021
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:25,919
Speaker 2: the football institution at those respective schools. My opinion has

1022
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 2: changed on what the value of that scholarship really is.

1023
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 2: And so I have gone from I think just kind

1024
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 2: of being a hive mind with Mama h and feeling

1025
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 2: that the scholarship should should be good enough to now

1026
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: going completely in the opposite direction, full bore, nil, full bore.

1027
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 2: Let's get these kids get paid somehow, some way and

1028
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 2: cash in on their name, image, likeness. So that for me,

1029
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 2: I think, is it's got to be the answer.

1030
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: I used to night games, Oh did I love like

1031
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: I couldn't even tell you that the channels on the

1032
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: West Coast like Prime Ticket, Yeah, Fox Sports West, shout

1033
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: out Petros, Papadacus and Steve phisiok, Ted Robbs, all those guys.

1034
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: I hate him, not anymore. I hate him so much

1035
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: that now that I am in the Central time zone

1036
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: and was in the Eastern time zone and now have

1037
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: two small children that wake up early, Pack twelve after

1038
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: dark is pack twelve dans in bed. Yeah, let's pack

1039
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: it in. For me, that's wake up early and watch

1040
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: it then. I just and I legitimately I love night

1041
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: games because on the West Coast, the primetime game is

1042
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: what a five fifteen kickoff, the you know Fowler Herb

1043
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: Street ESPN game that was great. I couldn't order an

1044
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: early dinner. And I hate like even there is even

1045
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: something about and this is a me thing. This is

1046
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: a me old man thing. I'm not trying to project

1047
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: this on anybody else, but even an Oregon game that

1048
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: starts at eight o'clock Central time Zone, somewhere in that

1049
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: vicinity seven thirty eight, I roll my eyes. And it's

1050
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: just because I'm ancient and washed up. But to me,

1051
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: that also says if it's on a major network that

1052
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: we're getting a long halftime. It feels that way anyway

1053
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: with the commercial breaks, and I'm rolling with that game

1054
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: until eleven thirty twelve, and that's not my preference. Pack it,

1055
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: pack it. In my my West Coast college football viewing career,

1056
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: loved a good night game. So that's what's changed with me.

1057
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: We've grown. But now also, and if you remember from

1058
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: I don't know three years ago, three four years ago,

1059
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: Chris Peterson's comments about road night games and how much

1060
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: it affects that just the full week's schedule, because now

1061
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: they're not getting home until the next day or in

1062
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: the middle of the night, and it's just in terms

1063
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: of consideration for scaledue. It's a wrench for teams. That

1064
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: doesn't affect my opinion. It's all selfishly how it affects me.

1065
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: And that's what's changed. I used to love them attending,

1066
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: watching whatever, one other thing that I'll throw in very

1067
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: quickly and then I want to get to my show. Hey, Otani,

1068
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: question from David maybe the best question we've ever been asked.

1069
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: I used to be I used to like lionize the

1070
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: ability to watch or the ability to have like six

1071
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,959
Speaker 1: TVs on it once, watch watch six TVs at once

1072
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Speaker 1: watching college football. Right, maybe I'm like to add for

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00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: my own good, I could really only deal with one

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00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: TV at this point. You're mononymous, and maybe Twitter, maybe

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00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: Twitter on a second screen to just see what people are.

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00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: You'll flirt people are reacting to. Yeah, all right, I

1077
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: can make two TVs work. I can make it work,

1078
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: but I could really only pay attention to one. Eventually,

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01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: I'm going to be a homeowner and it is going

1080
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: to be my attempt to mount to TVs either next

1081
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: to or one above the other. Will you go? I

1082
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: can make two work?

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01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 2: Will you go full Ari Wasserman and have somebody install

1084
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 2: them for you? Or will you give it the old college?

1085
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: Try? Well? In this current rental house, there was already

1086
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: the hanging brackets or whatever on the wall, the mountain

1087
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: just on the wall. But my brother in law and

1088
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: I physically lifted the TV and mounted and secured it.

1089
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: So we did half of it half of it. So

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01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: if that counts for anything, I will gladly let somebody

1091
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: else do that work. I am capable. I'll let somebody

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01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: else do it. I don't know. Final question up.

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01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 2: Final question from David yeah, what would the shoh Otani

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01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 2: of college football look like?

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01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: By the way, I can I just put one last

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01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: thing on the end of that, please. I used to

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01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: not prefer and get kind of annoyed at going to

1098
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: a sports bar to watch games, but I have missed

1099
01:00:56,320 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: human contact so much. Yeah that if you if like

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01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: if a friend of mine, I don't know when the

1101
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,439
Speaker 1: next NBA Finals game is, but if so, if somebody

1102
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: invited me to go see an NBA Finals game and

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01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: there was a basket of tots and some sort of

1104
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: attractive dipping sauce, I'd be really friggin pumped about. All right,

1105
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: final final question? Who is the otan?

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01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 2: Or no?

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01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: What does the Otani of college football look like?

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01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 2: So?

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01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: Cho Atani is a combination like that we've never.

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01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 2: Really seen in Major League baseball. He's a pitcher and

1111
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 2: also he hits really well and like leads Major League

1112
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 2: Baseball in home runs at the All Star break. What

1113
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 2: is that combination like in college football?

1114
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: So it's almost unheard of historically, right, like Tonthampton could

1115
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: could kind of hit right, but not like this, not

1116
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: like this, and then Babe Ruth but then he gave

1117
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: up pitching. He gave up pitching.

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01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 2: So what David is asking, is the Otani equivalent in

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01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 2: college football, somebody who is a quarterback and kicker, an

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01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 2: offensive lineman and cornerback.

1121
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: Is it something we'll ever see?

1122
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 2: So it's it's got to be a guy who plays

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01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 2: more than one position on a regular basis. I don't

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01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 2: know if we'll ever see it in this current iteration

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01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 2: of college football, although it was hard to predict that

1126
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 2: we would ever see an Otani to begin with, so

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01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 2: it's hard to say. I think the combination. I think

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Speaker 2: the combination has to be a quarterback with a linebacker.

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01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: Which we saw that flip right with Maryland a few

1130
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: years ago. A linebacker was the emergency quarterback.

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01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 2: We've seen the flip. We saw the Chaz Surrat. Yeah,

1132
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 2: quarterback to linebacker, but not in the same game. We

1133
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 2: saw Joel Lanning Joel Lanning, So we see that a lot.

1134
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Speaker 1: They're not unprecedented, but they're not doing it concurrently. There

1135
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: are comparable skills being the quarterback of the offense in

1136
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: the quarterback of the defense. So I guess the next

1137
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 1: layer here.

1138
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 2: Would be somebody who could do it both in the

1139
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 2: same game or both in the same season.

1140
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: Let me throw this at you, what about a quarterback

1141
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: slash defensive coordinator Because I only say that because yes,

1142
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: there's no or no, there's no physical element to being

1143
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator. But it's a highly specialized role within

1144
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: the game. It's whereas because we've seen we saw Miles

1145
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: Jack same game, play linebacker and take carries. We've seen

1146
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: you know, we've seen two way players. We've seen Charles

1147
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: Woodson as a starting defensive back come in and I

1148
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: mean he was in the return game, which is not unusual,

1149
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: but he took some sweeps and you know, lined up

1150
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: at receiver and won a Heisman for it. So I

1151
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: suppose in reality, in practice, Charles Woodson has been the

1152
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: closest we've come to a top level player. But he

1153
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 1: was not the best or one of the four best

1154
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: receivers in the country. He was defensive black who lined

1155
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: up a receiver and who return kicks. You know, had

1156
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: times really well. But it would it would have to

1157
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: be somebody god because it I understand where he's coming

1158
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 1: from from the offensive line in corner where physically they're

1159
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: so different and so unusual. But I don't think that's

1160
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 1: living necessarily in reality size wise.

1161
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 2: Right, I mean we're talking about if we look at

1162
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:30,959
Speaker 2: Otani's batting stats in particular, right, thirty three home runs,

1163
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 2: seventy RBIs at the break hitting two seventy nine with

1164
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 2: a on base percentage of three sixty four. So that's

1165
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 2: a monster season. That's a monster season by any measure. Yeah,

1166
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,919
Speaker 2: in baseball. And then if you compair the fact that

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01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 2: he can also pitch, he can also pitch.

1168
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 1: Now, you know. I mean, let's take a look at

1169
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:56,959
Speaker 1: the stats here. This is a guy.

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Speaker 2: He's got a pretty low whip. He's got a mid

1171
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 2: three ERA in the America League, which is pretty good,

1172
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 2: sixty seven innings pitched, eighty seven strikeouts, so he can

1173
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 2: throw and you can strike guys out. He can do

1174
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 2: a little bit of everything here. I just I don't

1175
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 2: to have a guy who is that consistent on both

1176
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 2: sides or in two different aspects of baseball is really

1177
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 2: unheard of, and so I think it would have to

1178
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 2: be an odd combination. In football, one of the suggestions

1179
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 2: was quarterbacking kicker, which would be interesting that I think

1180
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 2: is attainable.

1181
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm not as impressed. Was that

1182
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 1: what Sammy bad did? I believe I think so maybe

1183
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 1: I'm making that up. Yeah, I'm not as impressed with

1184
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: a quarterback kicker. To me, the answer is actually because

1185
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 1: if the quarterback is the analog to the pitcher in

1186
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: that like, it's either the most cerebral position, right, are

1187
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 1: that we assuming that catcher would be most cerebral? But okay,

1188
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 1: well you're in your head more With pitcher, you're in

1189
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: more the ball is in your hand deciding the game

1190
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: in the same way you're in quarterback. Right, I think

1191
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: it's quarterback and edge rusher. I think there is that

1192
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 1: that distinct difference between. Right, you're attacking in both instances

1193
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: what you do on the other side of the ball,

1194
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 1: So you know the ins and outs of the position.

1195
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 1: If you're a slugger, you know the ins and outs

1196
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: of what a pitcher is going to do and how

1197
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: to react to a pitch. So that to me is

1198
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 1: probably it. If von Miller were a Heisman caliber quarterback,

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01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: if Trevor Lawrence were had seventeen and a half tackles

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01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 1: for a loss in a season, that is probably the

1201
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: closest I can come up with because the skill set

1202
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: is so different but also related. So you know, if

1203
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 1: Vic Beasley is a Heisman quarterback. If you know, I'm

1204
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: trying to think of every you know, if Aaron Donald

1205
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 1: is a quarterback, I mean he's not edge, but you know,

1206
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 1: that kind of thing, to me is the only thing

1207
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: where you are in the trenches on one side of

1208
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: the ball, probably on defense attacking, and then on the

1209
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: other side of the ball you are picking a part

1210
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: of defense. Yeah, I was probably I was.

1211
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 2: Going to go back to Charles Woodson bit and I

1212
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 2: was going to say if a receiver came along who

1213
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 2: was also a shutdown corner.

1214
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, but those things feel related. They're playing the pass,

1215
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: they're they're they're battling each other every play, and so

1216
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: you see a lot of crossover, wasn't there. It was

1217
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: a Patriots player who started lining up at corner as

1218
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 1: it was it Troy Troy Smith, Troy Brown, Troy Brown,

1219
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 1: Troy Brown. Yeah, so it is those are at least related. Yeah,

1220
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 1: I would. I would say if you look at the

1221
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: great edge rushers of it's Miles Garrett. If those guys

1222
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 1: are at quarterback. And I've said this before on the show.

1223
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 1: The first time I ever saw Cam Newton in person,

1224
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: he was on the sidelines. It was the Florida Tennessee

1225
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 1: game two thousand and eight, and I just walked by

1226
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,919
Speaker 1: a dude who looked like a god, and I was like, man,

1227
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 1: that dude is going to destroy some quarterback. And it

1228
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 1: turned out he was the quarterback. When I saw it

1229
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: to be somebody built like that.

1230
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 2: When I saw Cam Newton in person, I thought he

1231
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 2: was wearing shit older pads. Yeah, he was not worrying.

1232
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 1: So it's going to be you know, if Terrell Pryor

1233
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 1: we're an edge rusher, we're like, geez man, this dude

1234
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 1: is another guy that is the closest I could come

1235
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: up with, just because the skill set is so different. Otani,

1236
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: by the way, making only five and a half million

1237
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 1: dollars this year, so maybe that'll change. Sometimes you're seeing

1238
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 1: the clip of Mina Kimes, who is a Mariners fan,

1239
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: like the cameras were rolling ahead of an Around the

1240
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 1: Horn episode when she found out that Otani signed with

1241
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: the Angels and she was crushed, just absolutely demolished.

1242
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 2: Well, this is the first year that I feel like

1243
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 2: we're seeing the legend of Otani. You know, it's always

1244
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 2: been there and he's always been able to do these things,

1245
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:47,560
Speaker 2: but what he's done this season is just remarkable.

1246
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's rifle. You're ready to rifle. Let's rifle real quick.

1247
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,600
Speaker 1: Favorite wedding song to hear as a guest. When it

1248
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: comes on, you're like, this is mate, living on a prayer.

1249
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: I want to dance with somebody. Whitney Houston Sneaky Kuavo.

1250
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:02,520
Speaker 1: How often do you try and exercise?

1251
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,680
Speaker 2: How often do I try to exercise versus how much

1252
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 2: do I exercise?

1253
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 1: What is your what is your living in reality exercise schedule?

1254
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 2: It is non existent. It's walking the dogs, but hopefully

1255
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 2: now that that's exercise. Don't know that's exercise. How long

1256
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 2: of a walk? About a mile?

1257
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're doing a mile a day, a couple

1258
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: miles a.

1259
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 2: Day, two times a day usually that's great. Yeah, that's

1260
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,759
Speaker 2: hopefully more now than I'm no longer at the MDJ.

1261
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 1: I'm at three or four days a week, a couple

1262
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 1: of days of tennis, a couple runs, and I'm pretty

1263
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: happy with it. What were Dan and ties first words

1264
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 1: to their wives? Could not tell you, Jimmy could not

1265
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:43,679
Speaker 1: tell you. Co workers solid wife.

1266
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 2: Kate tells me that my art of flirtation, my art

1267
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 2: of you know, getting to know her. Getting her interest

1268
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 2: was one of total avoidance, So I'd advanced to beyond

1269
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:58,600
Speaker 2: anybody's comprehension.

1270
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I can't honestly tell you what my first

1271
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 1: words were. You played hard to get with your wife.

1272
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 2: But it was like saying that I played anything credit.

1273
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 2: There was no like tactic.

1274
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:14,600
Speaker 1: It was just a mysterious time. Yeah. Yeah, so mysterious

1275
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 1: Mine was go blue, as in Michigan was where I think,

1276
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the exact phrasing, because we

1277
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 1: met online and in her profile it said go blue,

1278
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 1: and so I that was my my icebreaker, go blue.

1279
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 1: That was something I could talk about. Nice. All right,

1280
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 1: final question? What's the final question? Uh? Final question? We

1281
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 1: did exercise, we did wedding, we did live question. Okay,

1282
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: here it is zaying. This is a great way to

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Speaker 1: answer because it straddles both football and not really college football.

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Speaker 1: Besides the broadcasters, is there anything to you that makes

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Speaker 1: a games broadcast stand out? Wow? Well, I know the

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Speaker 1: answer for you is the bug at the bottom or

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Speaker 1: the graphics. That's kind of answer. That's no, not in

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Speaker 1: a good one. I assume he wants to know what

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Speaker 1: in a good way makes a broadcast really shine. Not

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Speaker 1: a bad score bug or belt as it were with ESPN,

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Speaker 1: makes a broadcast really shine outside of the commentators. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that is a good I've had a great tie answer

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Speaker 1: here I think would work for you. I think it's

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Speaker 1: the audio mix, where there's like the palpable feel and

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Speaker 1: energy of being in a stadium. Now that you know

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Speaker 1: surround sound and good soundbars are pretty affordable, I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of people have those, and so it's a

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Speaker 1: more immersive experience, especially after last year when a lot

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Speaker 1: of these stadiums were far emptier than normal. So the

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Speaker 1: audio mix, I think is really important. And I've been

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes to watch somebody and he was an

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Speaker 1: artist sort of work the levels. I think that's very important.

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Speaker 1: I think the any sort of immersive quality. So the

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Speaker 1: the what's it called the wire cam that's behind a play,

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Speaker 1: that like even when it's not behind a play, even

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Speaker 1: when it's you know, sort of behind a huddle or

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Speaker 1: on the sideline as a coach is like struggling with

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Speaker 1: the decision whether or not to go on third and

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Speaker 1: one or something like that. The close ups, which I

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Speaker 1: believe Fox does more close ups than ESPN. They're really

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Speaker 1: big on like the emotion of the game, and to me,

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Speaker 1: specific for college, is just painting a picture I have.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I get aroused when I see the changing

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Speaker 1: colors in a big ten gamest. I get aroused. I

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Speaker 1: get aroused when I see the ball navy. I get

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Speaker 1: a rouse like anything that paints the picture and paints

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Speaker 1: a scene of that game. If I'm coming back from

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Speaker 1: a break and it's not a meaningless but like an

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Speaker 1: inconsequential Wisconsin Indiana game or something that doesn't you know,

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Speaker 1: they're both three and five. But I'm seeing brots on

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Speaker 1: the grill, I'm seeing scenes in the parking lot. I'm

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Speaker 1: seeing the crowd jump around between the third and fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: It's anything that's like this couldn't be happening anywhere else.

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Speaker 1: This scene that to me separates a pretty good broadcast,

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Speaker 1: you know, And a lot of that's the capability and

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Speaker 1: the producer and they what kind of shots they want

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Speaker 1: and how they want to broadcast a game. But sort

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Speaker 1: of time and place to me is very big and

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Speaker 1: very important. Yeah. I think, by the way, with broadcasters,

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Speaker 1: the really good ones don't overtalk. They let the sort

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Speaker 1: of sounds of the game tell the story. That's important.

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Speaker 2: I think the thing for me is is you alluded

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Speaker 2: to like the wire cam. Some of us are old

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Speaker 2: enough to remember when the wire cam was only trotted

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Speaker 2: out for something like Monday Night Football or the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: and it wasn't as ubiquitous as it is now. So

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Speaker 2: for me, the wirecam, when I see that, like I

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Speaker 2: don't know, that gives it more of a big game

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Speaker 2: feel to me. And I would also jump board the

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Speaker 2: atmosphere thing that you alluded to, you know, seeing the

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Speaker 2: atmosphere knowing that it's a big game, knowing that it's

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Speaker 2: in a big in a cool setting, that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: You know those shots of the mountains surrounding the Rose Bowl.

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Speaker 2: That adds to the to the feeld Man, I oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: If you don't feel it when you see that, you

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Speaker 2: don't have a heart. But that's the top of the

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Speaker 2: top of the top of college football.

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Speaker 1: To me in terms of visuals. It can exist anywhere.

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Speaker 1: It can exist at an FCS school, it can exist

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Speaker 1: at a mid level power five school, at a good

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Speaker 1: chief whatever. As long as it's not in an NFL stadium.

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Speaker 1: I am pretty pumped up about just seeing where this

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Speaker 1: game is happening and maybe it's just commercial bumpers. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's on the faces of you know, a notable fan

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Speaker 1: section or something like that, whatever it is. But to

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Speaker 1: have to like to immediately visually associate a game with

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Speaker 1: a place is extremely important to me. It's the people,

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Speaker 1: it's the scene, it's outside the stadium, it's inside the stadium.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, weather like a snowy game, a

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Speaker 1: rainy game, a sweltering game, a foggy game, that kind

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Speaker 1: of thing. If those things are emphasized, you know, those

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Speaker 1: close up shots of the puddles on the sideline of

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Speaker 1: all that tie. I'll give it all to me.

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Speaker 2: You're into it, Okay, Well, look, this has been a

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Speaker 2: longer than usual show, but one that has been more

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Speaker 1: By the way, the patreon's been fact checking you. They've

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Speaker 1: been fact checking me. Great, well, you said West Virginia

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Speaker 1: was a buffer on TCU schedule they've lost three or four,

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Speaker 1: including a really ugly loss last year to West Virginia. Okay,

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Speaker 1: somebody said most omelet stations. The guy is only working

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Speaker 1: guy or gal two omelets at a time, and you

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Speaker 2: find hands for omelets. I stand by I saw this morning,

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Speaker 2: did Ty hilden Brand say that he knew people that

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Speaker 2: would be happy with a three thirty half marathon? That's

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Speaker 2: a sixteen minute mile pace.

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Speaker 1: Okay, maybe maybe I got my So you can be

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Speaker 1: a part of this community fact checking ties what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: I only have one more thing, Ty, Yeah, and then

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Speaker 1: we can sign off. Friend of the show, co host

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