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Speaker 3: What is going on?

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Speaker 4: Welcome to another edition of the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. Resents

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Speaker 4: it by PEPSI. My name is Gabe Henderson. I'm inside

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Speaker 4: the TCO Radio studio and Eagan with Vikings dot COM's

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Speaker 4: Tatum Everett and j Neltson on the line helping us

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Speaker 4: break down Vikings news on this podcast is our friend

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Speaker 4: sy Aminson. If you don't know who Siaminson is, first

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Speaker 4: and foremost, that's your fault. Secondly, you are missing out

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Speaker 4: on one of the best podcasts in the nation right

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Speaker 4: now called The Tailgate. Jay Nelson produces that show and

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Speaker 4: SI we hear you every week, whether that's here on

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Speaker 4: Vikings dot Com or OKFA n But the three of

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Speaker 4: us haven't had you on the Minnesota Vikings Podcast in

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Speaker 4: a while. So, first and foremost, how are you? My friend?

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Speaker 5: I think it's a strong move to bring me on

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Speaker 5: about every six or seven months. I think that if

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Speaker 5: you let me have access to a show with real

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Speaker 5: opinions any more often than that, no one's going to

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Speaker 5: love that. So I think we have a really nice clip.

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Speaker 5: Let's hear from him in August and let's hear from

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Speaker 5: him in New York February. That seems like good splits

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Speaker 5: for me. I'm good. I'm football is winding down officially.

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Speaker 5: I'm dealing with the emotions of all Viking fans, which

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Speaker 5: is watching other teams succeed, well, you wonder what's next

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Speaker 5: for your team again in the offseason. So I'm dealing

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Speaker 5: with that. But other than that, I'm doing good.

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Speaker 1: Your good friend Zach on the tailgate, he often talks

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Speaker 1: about his lions.

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Speaker 2: Have you talked to him since Sunday?

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Speaker 5: So I haven't?

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Speaker 2: Is warning?

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Speaker 5: I haven't, and I'm going to. It's a great question, Tatum,

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Speaker 5: because I've been very, very careful. So I have nearly

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Speaker 5: best friends on both sides of the NFC Championship Dame

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Speaker 5: one of my longest running comedy friends, Dave Huntsberger. He

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Speaker 5: did one of the original pilots for the show to

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Speaker 5: help build the tailgate, and then Dan Soder, who was

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Speaker 5: on this year, and then Zach Martinez, so it's kind

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Speaker 5: of like picking. I think I understood the plight of

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Speaker 5: Mama Kelsey in the Super Bowl, like I think I

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Speaker 5: understood which one of my babies should I be rooting for.

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Speaker 5: But if I'm being honest, it was I hear all

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Speaker 5: these Viking fans. I heard must on the radio, like

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Speaker 5: I'd never root for the Lions. I was rooting for

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Speaker 5: the Lions harder than I've rooted for a team in

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Speaker 5: the playoffs in a really long time. I identify with

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Speaker 5: suffering fan bases, So the Bills, the Browns, the Vikings,

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Speaker 5: the Lions. These long to watch them win a title

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Speaker 5: would have been such a wonderful thing. And I saw

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Speaker 5: how hope built as the season went on in Zach's mind,

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Speaker 5: and I think specifically the way that game went, I

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Speaker 6: See for me, Sid, it's the whole thing of I

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Speaker 3: As soon as he can get.

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Speaker 5: It, We've got it. We do have to make a choice.

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Speaker 5: Like anyone who watched that first half thought, Dan Campbell

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Speaker 5: Those dropped passes right after that was the most Lions

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Speaker 4: Awe. Yeah, that play reminded me of the Week three

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Speaker 5: Do you guys think that the sentence? Because for Minnesota Vikings,

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Speaker 5: you think you hear somebody say the Gary Anderson kick,

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Speaker 4: I will probably go Brandon Nayuk because that that's so.

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Speaker 4: I mean Dan Campbell he led, he leads all of

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Speaker 5: Can I ask you about that?

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Speaker 5: Can I ask you guys about that? I kept hearing

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Speaker 5: Waldorf shouting from a balcony, but there's always the reality

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Speaker 5: of like when you're talking about football, you have to

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Speaker 5: bring in the context of what's happening and who you're

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Speaker 5: playing and when you're playing them, Like, yes, if you

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Speaker 5: go for it on fourth and three from the forty

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Speaker 5: yard line, you get it fifty five percent of the time,

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Speaker 5: But that is an average of lower and higher, and

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Speaker 5: I would guess you get a higher amount of them

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Speaker 5: let's do that. But it's like you're gonna have a

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Speaker 5: like that's who he was all year. Well, guess what,

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Speaker 5: it's not all year, man, this is not Detroit in

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Speaker 5: Week eight. You had either one as you take points

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Speaker 5: I don't. I don't think Dan Campbell. I don't blame

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Speaker 5: interesting and inspiring to watch. But I just didn't like

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Speaker 5: but what if what if Kyle Shanahan is coaching the

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Speaker 5: anything else? So I don't just fall apart on this show.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I no, I'm with you. It's for

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Speaker 1: me if I'm if I'm looking at that. There were

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Speaker 2: Don't really know if there was like one moment for me.

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Speaker 1: That stuck out as like you're going to mention this

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Speaker 1: year's to come. I'm going to be like, oh, remember

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Speaker 1: that year the Lions were like untouchable and then they

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Speaker 6: I don't think you were the only one too, because

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Speaker 6: I actually I heard other people I did the exact shayeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll turned on a movie. I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: let's let's stop this movie and see what's actually happening

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Speaker 6: So for me, the whole the whole argument there saida

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Speaker 6: with it. You know, I I can hear different arguments.

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Speaker 6: so like the idea there have just you know, throttled

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Speaker 6: something different. But like you brought up the fact when

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Speaker 6: now they're you know, within scoring to and then the

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Speaker 3: Yes, the combination of those.

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Speaker 6: you know, this is where Lions fans now start to

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Speaker 6: just went off a helmet and then they turned it

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Speaker 5: It for sure did, and you could see it, and

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Speaker 5: the reason that I got so like I'm one of

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00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 5: the people who got sucked into the Dobs mania. Like

436
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 5: I didn't quite buy an astronaut costume, but I didn't

437
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 5: were not eBay it, like I wasn't not on Amazon

438
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 5: looking for NASA helmet so like, but I didn't make

439
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 5: the purchase. But what I saw in that moment of

440
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 5: those two games, especially with the defense, where they're playing

441
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,439
Speaker 5: the way they were, is like last year the Eagles

442
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 5: in the Niners seemed impervious to anyone else, like any attack,

443
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 5: any competition from anyone except each other. He just we

444
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 5: saw the Niners in our building. We've seen all the

445
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 5: good teams, and my brain went like, oh, if this

446
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 5: guy can run like this and the defense can play

447
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 5: like this, I don't know who knows. So that's what

448
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 5: I'm hoping continues next year. Is you know, in the NFC,

449
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,360
Speaker 5: you feel like, well, a couple things break our way

450
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 5: and we come together in the right way. Who knows,

451
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 5: maybe we're standing where the Packers were last year.

452
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 6: I think on my inside, just looking at it, you

453
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 6: go through and you look and realize that, you know, basically,

454
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Speaker 6: for the last twenty years in the AFC, it's been

455
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,439
Speaker 6: either a Patriot or a Chiefs team that's been sitting

456
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Speaker 6: in the Super Bowl.

457
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Speaker 3: I think it's eight of the last.

458
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Speaker 6: Ten seasons it's either been New England or the chief

459
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,360
Speaker 6: says the AFC representative. It is insane to think that,

460
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Speaker 6: you know, I heard Leeber talking about at one point too, saying,

461
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 6: you know, he thought that the end of the Tom

462
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 6: Brady era, that that would be the end of kind

463
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 6: of this crazy dynasty running for over a decade. And

464
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 6: now you've got a guy in Patrick Mahomes who's twenty

465
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 6: eight years old and has never not got to the

466
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 6: AFC Championship. That the idea of the AFC currently at

467
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 6: this point is completely loaded with other quarterbacks too. Are

468
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 6: there any other teams that you think could kind of,

469
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 6: you know, dethrown the Chiefs at this point, or as

470
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 6: long as as as Patrick's there, that they're just going

471
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Speaker 6: to kind of keep rolling with this thing.

472
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 5: No, I think what you saw this year is the thing.

473
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 5: I think. I think that's what the future is going

474
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 5: to look like in the AFC is like to Tatum's point,

475
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 5: you can never count the Chiefs out until their debt,

476
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 5: right and I don't care if they're ten and six,

477
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 5: I don't It's it's the Shaq and Kobe Lakers, right

478
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 5: Like they can get into the playoffs, they can get

479
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 5: on a roll. But every step of the way. That

480
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 5: was a competitive game in the Bills. The Bills could

481
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 5: have beat them. That was a competitive the Ravens. Can

482
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 5: you imagine a more mistake riddled performance with all those

483
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 5: personal files? Like, the Ravens could have beaten them. So

484
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 5: I think you've got to make them the odds on favorite.

485
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 5: But I think you're gonna ever year in the ANFC,

486
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 5: you're gonna have four or five teams that are gonna

487
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 5: be right there and could beat them. I think the

488
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 5: salary cap and their lack of weapons on offense to

489
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 5: be able to pay for a good defense, while also

490
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 5: you know paying their quarterback is gonna keep them relatively mortal.

491
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 5: I think the most interesting story is the Aaron Rodgers thing.

492
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 5: I you know this whole He's washed up thing is

493
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 5: the silliest thing in the world. His thumb was hurt

494
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 5: his last year in Green Bay. Like, that's gonna be

495
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 5: really really interesting next year. I don't I don't know what.

496
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 5: It's kind of like Cleveland was weirdly all in this

497
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 5: year where they threw you know, the the Deshaun thing,

498
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 5: and they went and they got Zdarius, they went and

499
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 5: got Dalvin, they got Jim Schwartz, they got all this

500
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 5: kind of money kind of built up and flooded in

501
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 5: and expensive o line. But they're really interesting. I don't know.

502
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 5: I think any of these teams, the Bengals will be back.

503
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 5: I think we're just into this era where you can't

504
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 5: count on the Chiefs like not being there. That's not

505
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 5: a great sentence, but you shouldn't count him out. But

506
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 5: I think there's always going to be four or five

507
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 5: teams that could knock him off. I think the path

508
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 5: will just be harder, Like next year. I mean, this year,

509
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 5: you beat Josh Allen and you beat Lamar, and that's

510
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 5: what you're gonna have to continuously do. And if you

511
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 5: do that year in and year out, you know, just

512
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 5: start carving the statues and handing out the gold Jackets.

513
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's probably in the conversation for a go jacket

514
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 4: as we speak, even though he's still gearing up for

515
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 4: his fourth Super Bowl in six years.

516
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 2: Unless retires.

517
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 5: True, But here's the one, Tatum, unless Andy Reid retired.

518
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 4: True.

519
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:41,479
Speaker 2: There you go.

520
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 5: That's the rumor that I that's the rumor that Florio

521
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 5: is just he's not saying it, but he's like what if.

522
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 5: And you know, when Florio says what if, there's somebody

523
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 5: who he knows who told him what if? I think

524
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 5: it's fascinating this whole swerl Like, dude, Mike Rabel doesn't

525
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 5: have a job. Who's going to get Mike Rabel as decordinator?

526
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 5: It's going to be nuts. Who's going to get Bill Belichick?

527
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 5: You know? Is he going to sit out a year?

528
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

529
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 5: There's a lot of really fun storylines that are going

530
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 5: to probably exist in the next season.

531
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Speaker 4: Well, speaking of fun storylines, Jordan Addison and Ivan Pace Junior,

532
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 4: we're both named to the Pro Football Writers of America

533
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 4: All Rookie Team for twenty twenty three, and we're talking about,

534
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,479
Speaker 4: you know, young talent that you can build your team around,

535
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 4: and looking at just those two guys side. When when

536
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 4: you see Jordan Addison the year that he had and

537
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 4: then Ivan Pace and drafted pre agent, how do you,

538
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 4: I guess a test how their future of their career

539
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 4: can go with this Minnesota Vikings team.

540
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 5: I don't know, man. I think, like I said, I

541
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 5: was at that Niner game. You and I were down

542
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 5: on the field before it started, you know, during warmups,

543
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 5: and we were talking about Jordan Addison, and then he

544
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 5: comes out and kind of makes that He brought that

545
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 5: conversation to lights that we were having. And I think,

546
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 5: not only do I have such high like I'm the

547
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 5: guy who's going around telling people that I think this

548
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 5: is going to be a top fifteen receiver in the league.

549
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 5: I really think that. I have a close friend who

550
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 5: followed him, you know, who's a pit fan, who in

551
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 5: the moment we draft him, he's like, you have no

552
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 5: idea he's the best receiver in the draft. Just prepare.

553
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 5: You have no idea. But the one less about his

554
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 5: career and where he's going. I think, to me, it's

555
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 5: more about what he represents and I think it's a

556
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 5: fit in what the team is trying to do. And

557
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 5: I think as much as it sucked to not have

558
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 5: Jefferson to see him in that short window where there

559
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 5: was no Jefferson, but Kirk was still there to see

560
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 5: him perform the way he did and developed the relationship

561
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 5: with Kirk the way he did, and to get utilized

562
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 5: by the coach the way he did that to me

563
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 5: is the thing that I look at and I go, well,

564
00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 5: that's really exciting because Jefferson had that amazing year two

565
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 5: years ago. But until until you start seeing weapons coming

566
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 5: from all over the field, that's what it feels like

567
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 5: we've been missing. You know, you got Howkinson in the

568
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 5: feeling thing didn't quite work in O'Connell's first year and

569
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 5: theends last year. So next year now we've got a

570
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 5: way for Hawkinson to come back from injury. But at

571
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 5: some point you're gonna have a pretty scary three headed monster.

572
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 5: And I'm down here in Cincinnati and I got to

573
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 5: tell you, the way they're built, you'll probably lose T

574
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 5: Higgins in the offseason. To watch Jamar Chase and T

575
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 5: Higgins and Tyler Boyd as a three who'd be a

576
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 5: two on a lot of teams, that dynamic is it's

577
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 5: pretty wild. So I that's what I'm as much as

578
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 5: I'm excited to see him evolve as a player, Like

579
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 5: we didn't get any Here's our quarterback and our two

580
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 5: receivers are full in going and in vibe with the quarterback.

581
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 5: That's gonna be a lot of fun next year.

582
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: So if you are the Vikings GM, what is your

583
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: number one top priority this offseason?

584
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 5: Seventy seventy defensive lineman seventy Okay, eighty of them? Yeah,

585
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 5: I want. I'm here's the thing I am. I've told

586
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 5: this today before too. I think it's I'm the sort

587
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 5: of fan that when a new leader comes in, coach,

588
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 5: general manager, I think a lot of people think they

589
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 5: know better, like why'd you hire him? Why wouldn't we

590
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 5: should have done this? And I am nowhere near smart

591
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 5: enough to be in charge of anything in the NFL.

592
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 5: So my methodology is always, you prove to me like

593
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 5: you have my support, until you prove to me that

594
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 5: you shouldn't get it. And I think this is going

595
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 5: to be a really fun year for Quacy and Kevin

596
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 5: because you know, when you take over a college job,

597
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 5: your first couple of years, you have the other team's recruits,

598
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 5: you know, and eventually it becomes your team. I think,

599
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 5: now this is a fit Sally becoming their team. I mean,

600
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 5: we watched the games. It's clear coach O'Connell has a

601
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 5: style of football he likes, an approach he likes, and

602
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 5: they're building the players. You know, it's clear Quasi has

603
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 5: a style and an approach. But year three is gonna

604
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 5: be the big one because you know, we've got a

605
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 5: really good draft pick. You could hit on a couple

606
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 5: of people and it could really change the trajectory of

607
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 5: the team. So I think it's gonna be a really

608
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 5: it's gonna be really fun to see those guys finally,

609
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 5: not that it hasn't been their team, but three years

610
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 5: is a good that's when you really start making it

611
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 5: your team. And all I would say is, Jay, what's

612
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 5: the stat there's some like in the last eight years

613
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 5: we've taken I might be butchering this, but I think

614
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 5: one defensive lineman in the first or second round? Is

615
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 5: that right? I believe Floyd. I think it's something close

616
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 5: to that. And I think if you look around at

617
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 5: all the teams that seem to wind up near the

618
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 5: time of the league, you know, you find a lot

619
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 5: of teams who are really good in the trenches and

620
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 5: it's a fun time in Minnesota, you know, Gave and Tatum.

621
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 5: This is like you guys are you guys are fully entrenched,

622
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 5: but you're also you know, you've been here a few

623
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 5: years now. But there was a time, and I know

624
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 5: you know this because we all tell you about it

625
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 5: all the time where if anybody said Vikings, the next

626
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 5: word out of their mouth was offensive line. And so

627
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 5: to have gone through this drought from back in ninety

628
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 5: eight when we had this elite offensive line with Randall, McDaniel,

629
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 5: Stucy Christie, the whole you know, Corey String or the

630
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 5: whole group, to have that group and then we had

631
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 5: this long drought with you know, the Hutchinson years in

632
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 5: there where it was and the McKinney where we were

633
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 5: pretty good, back into another long drought. To finally have

634
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 5: that side of the trenches feel like it's really trending

635
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 5: the right direction. Like the Chiefs d line is great,

636
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 5: the Bengals is great, the Eagles is great. Obviously, the

637
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 5: Niners put every I mean trade deadline comes around. You

638
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 5: got how they get him? You know, they just keep

639
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 5: adding people. So that's the longest answer in the history

640
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 5: of the world. Tatum to say, I would love free

641
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 5: agents on the D line. I would love I don't

642
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 5: care if we trade up, trade down, stay we're at.

643
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 5: I would love a stud edge or a stud d tackle,

644
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 5: like you give Brian Flores some pieces that can get

645
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 5: to the quarterback. Look what he did this year. Without that,

646
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 5: that would be the number one thing I would do.

647
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 6: Sorry for the for the fans of Game of Thrones,

648
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 6: we essentially have a red wedding for the Super Bowl

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Speaker 6: this year with the Chiefs and the Niners.

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Speaker 3: Who are you going to pick?

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Speaker 5: I mean, everybody's gonna hate me so much. I don't

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Speaker 5: know what any of that means. I did not watch him.

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Speaker 4: I don't even want to guess.

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, there we go. I like that better. If

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Speaker 5: I would have guessed what it meant, I would have

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Speaker 5: been probably kicked off the show forever. I think, here's

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Speaker 5: the thing. When it's two teams that I don't care about,

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Speaker 5: I'm sick of Patrick Mahmes. He's amazing. I don't want

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Speaker 5: to watch it anymore. I wanted to. I want to

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Speaker 5: Bill's Lions. So what I have to do in this

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Speaker 5: moment is I either have to decide to root for

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Speaker 5: one of my really close friends who's a Niners fan,

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Speaker 5: or have another friend who is a diehard Kyle Shanahan supporter,

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Speaker 5: and he's really annoying about it, and so I either

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Speaker 5: that or I have to root against him. So I'll

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Speaker 5: put it to you, guys. Should I be supportive or petty?

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Speaker 4: I think you have to respect greatness? Okay, there you go.

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Speaker 5: Patty, go chiefs, Go chiefs.

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Speaker 4: Let's be petty. Well, look, you have to respect greatness.

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Speaker 4: And whether you like him or not, Pat Mahomes is

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Speaker 4: greatness and we're witnessing it. And for me, I'm just like,

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Speaker 4: I'm just like, I just appreciate his greatness, right, Like

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Speaker 4: we don't really get to see this firsthand in real

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Speaker 4: time as often as you do.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, man, But it's like, here's the thing.

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Speaker 5: It's like, have you ever been to Fogo to Chow. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: fog to Chow's amazing, right, Brazilian steakhouse, expensive nights. They

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Speaker 5: cut your meat in front of you over and over

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Speaker 5: and over again until you explode. It's amazing. But like

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Speaker 5: if you went to Fog to Chow on Tuesday and

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Speaker 5: Wednesday and Thursday and then your partner was like, hey,

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Speaker 5: for Friday, you want to go to fog to chow,

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Speaker 5: You'd be like, I think I just want pasta. And

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Speaker 5: that's coming off of we just went to Tom Brady's

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Speaker 5: Fogo to chow for twenty years. So I love Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 5: I agree with you. I felt that way about Tiger Woods, right,

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Speaker 5: I feel that way about Lebron James. But I think

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Speaker 5: there's always going to be something great going on, Like

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Speaker 5: I think we talk about it like you really experiences greatness.

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Speaker 5: You're like, Okay, well in three years somebody will be

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Speaker 5: doing it in baseball. You know. I don't know. Oh

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Speaker 5: so he's great. I just don't care. I don't want

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Speaker 5: to watch it anymore.

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Speaker 6: Enjoy the meat sweats of the Super Bowl side.

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Speaker 5: Thank you. I'll be sitting there wishing my team was

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Speaker 5: in it. Hey, thank you guys for by the way,

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Speaker 5: thank you for the support on the show this year

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Speaker 5: and helping promote the tailgate. We really love doing it,

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Speaker 5: and thank you for letting me come on every once

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Speaker 5: in a while and be a maniac man.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate you putting out good content and helping us with

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Speaker 4: our show. It's a team thing, so appreciate you.

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Speaker 5: Oh weird I'm like one of those I'm the worst teammate.

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Speaker 5: I'm like one of those, one of those selfish stat stuffers.

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Speaker 5: But I appreciate you thinking I'm a team player. So anyways,

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Speaker 5: watch the tailgate. Everybody, love you bye.

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Speaker 4: Always it pleasure of talking to our friend Syaminson is

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Speaker 4: never a dull moment when he has the mic in

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Speaker 4: his hands, and clearly added some value to our show today.

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Speaker 4: But as we wrap, we were talking about the San

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Speaker 4: Francisco forty nine ers, and now that Kyle Euschek, the

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Speaker 4: fullback for the forty nine ers, is in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 4: he now well, I guess Kyle uchcheck he was the

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Speaker 4: the Pro Bowler, the Pro Bowl fullback for the NFC

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Speaker 4: and CJ. Ham was the first replacement. So now that

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Speaker 4: Kyle Euschek is going to the Super Bowl, he still

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Speaker 4: is going to be a Pro Bowler, but he won't

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Speaker 4: participate in the Pro Bowl games, which ultimately gives c J.

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Speaker 4: Ham that spot. So CJ. Ham is now officially named

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Speaker 4: to the Pro Bowl as a replacement. It is this

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Speaker 4: the second time in his career that he's been a

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Speaker 4: Pro bowler, and I believe Lindsay Young earlier in the

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Speaker 4: week was talking about CJ had already I guess him

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Speaker 4: and his family had had already booked their flight to

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Speaker 4: Orlando last week because they just figured that the forty

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Speaker 4: nine ers are going to make the Super Bowl. So

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Speaker 4: kudos to him and good planning for him and his

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Speaker 4: wife on that part, I can.

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Speaker 6: Say either way, they are planning a family vacation down

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Speaker 6: to Orlando one way or the other.

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Speaker 2: So smart, stinking.

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Speaker 6: Exactly smart on their end, and you know, maybe they

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Speaker 6: had a little bit of a inkling, like you said

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Speaker 6: that that was going to be the case. I think

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Speaker 6: it's awesome to see a guy like CJ Ham once

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Speaker 6: again get rewarded for all of his efforts.

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Speaker 3: He's a leader, he's a captain.

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Speaker 6: I think everyone in that locker room loves to have him,

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Speaker 6: you know, get recognized like this, and so for CJ

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Speaker 6: to be able to step up not only for being

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Speaker 6: a fallback, but special teams and everything else, I think

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Speaker 6: it's great to have him get recognized and have a

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Speaker 6: nice little kind of a reward there for the team

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Speaker 6: as well for all their efforts this season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, three guys instead of two, huh right, let's.

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Speaker 4: Go, maybe we get more more than Marrier, maybe we

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Speaker 4: get more. But Danielle Hunter, Andrew de Paula, CJ Ham,

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Speaker 4: all Pro bowlers for the Vikings this year, and a

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Speaker 4: guy that I personally thought should have been a Pro bowler,

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Speaker 4: TJ Hockinson. He did undergo successful surgery on his ACL

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Speaker 4: earlier this week. He had surgery in Los Angeles and

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Speaker 4: the team will continue to provide updates as appropriate during

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Speaker 4: TJ's recovery. So that is today's show. That is a

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Speaker 4: fun show. It is Pro Bowl week. So we got

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Speaker 4: a lot of people down there in Orlando getting some sun.

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Speaker 4: Like the thing is with the sun is like if

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Speaker 4: it's going to be forty in Minneapolis or forty into

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Speaker 4: Twin cities, I will stay here and not go to Orlando.

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Speaker 4: But I'm excited for Lindsay and all of our staff

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Speaker 4: to be able to participate in the Pro Bowl this year. CC.

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Speaker 6: It was actually warmer in Minneapolis yesterday than it was

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Speaker 6: in Florida. Really, they were in the forties losing their

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Speaker 6: minds thinking, you know, everything had frozen over, and we

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Speaker 6: were rejoicing. And I'm sure I saw a bunch of

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Speaker 6: people run around in shorts yesterday and when it was

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Speaker 6: fifty so yeah, it was actually warmer in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: The other day, I was chilly. I was a little chilly.

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Speaker 4: Isn't temperature.

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Speaker 1: I think it was like fiftee's, which I know is

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Speaker 1: like doesn't sound that cold, But when it's Florida and

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Speaker 1: it's so damp and like absolutely the sun's not really out,

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Speaker 1: it does feel a little bit more chillier than normal.

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Speaker 6: Listen, my family that lived down there, when we go visit,

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Speaker 6: if it was below seventy degrees, they were in winter

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Speaker 6: coach and we were running around and T shirt and shorts, going,

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Speaker 6: you guys are crazy. So it'll be fun. Pro Bowl

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Speaker 6: is always interesting. They've tried to reinvent it over the

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Speaker 6: last couple of years, and I think this year will

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Speaker 6: be no different. So it'd be fun to see kind

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Speaker 6: of what they roll out red carpet wise for the

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Speaker 6: Pro Bowl and just kind of let our offense, defense,

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Speaker 6: and special teams be represented this season.

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Speaker 4: Well, the Pro Bowl Games takes place this upcoming Sunday,

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Speaker 4: February fourth, from three pm to six pm Eastern time,

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Speaker 4: so that's two pm to five pm Central time. You

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Speaker 4: can watch that game on ESPN, ABC, or Disney. It

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Speaker 4: is going to be an interesting I guess reimagined Pro

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Speaker 4: Bowl games, but I'm excited to see what that looks

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Speaker 4: like this upcoming year. But as we close the show,

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Speaker 4: I want to give a huge thank you again to

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