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Speaker 1: not rich by any stretch, yet make too much money

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Speaker 1: to qualify for assistance. We could finally see the major

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Speaker 1: backlash at the bowls, which I think is long overdue. Well,

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Speaker 1: an eight thousand dollar deductable before their insurance kicks in

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Speaker 1: an eight thousand dollar deductible. Hey, hey, stupid. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: talking to you taxpayers in cal Unicornian. Hey, stupid, your

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Speaker 1: tax money is now going to anybody who snakes into

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Speaker 1: that was sarcasm. I have nothing but sympathy for you

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Speaker 1: and me and our plight, but you've got to get

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Speaker 1: active on this. Got a text yesterday from somebody said,

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Speaker 1: can I renounce my U S citizenship so I don't

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Speaker 1: have to pay for my health care anymore? Is a

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Speaker 1: good one. Sure, Go to Mexico, have yourself a couple

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Speaker 1: of magaritas, your street taco sneak back in and and

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Speaker 1: five to nine five k f TC