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Speaker 1: Hey, rain Drop. Today's guests a reality.

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Speaker 2: While Presents Plus streaming app. Yes, I'm talking about my

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Speaker 3: Maddie, I need.

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Speaker 2: To give you your flowers before we start this conversation.

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Speaker 2: I am so proud of you, and I want to

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Speaker 1: I don't I'm so nervous. Don't be nervous.

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Speaker 2: Libra says, okay, because we're both libras, which means we're

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back after these quick ass. This is

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Speaker 2: reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get

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Speaker 2: back into the show. I'm getting so emotional right now

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Speaker 1: Come on, hold on, before you even go there, Carlos,

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Speaker 2: Well, No, I thank you for that. I love you

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Speaker 1: then I started thinking like, well, who is black? Like

433
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: who would take that piece of that and say black?

434
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 1: Like who is who's black? I was like, oh, Kenja

435
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: Lamar ain't really fighting for no no thinking about no

436
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: trans people or nothing like that. So then I was

437
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: like Rihanna, I said, well she did no music, you know.

438
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: I was like Beyonce, man. So I went back to

439
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: eating and I was like, this could be Beyonce. And

440
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: then it just went away because nothing, nothing had happened,

441
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: you know. Then we fast forward to July of this

442
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: year and I was I was coming home from uh,

443
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: Costa Rica. And when I was coming home from Costa Rica,

444
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: my email was going crazy and it was like massive,

445
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 1: we need you clear as we need you to give

446
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: us lyrics for song two. I was like, well, what

447
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 1: is who is what?

448
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 2: It's still an anonymous email without the Parkwood dot com address.

449
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: Well it said park with at the bottom, okay, But

450
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: I didn't pay it any attention. I wasn't paying attention

451
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: to it like that until I send it over to

452
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: my lawyer and my lawyer's like, bitch, this is Beyonce.

453
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: I love that your lawyer said, bitchade girl, are you kidding?

454
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: Why have y'all not responded to this email?

455
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: And the rest is hitster read. I'm so proud of

456
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 2: you because it sort of gives you your your permission

457
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: and your clearance to to sort of say, in the

458
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: words of Beyonce, I am.

459
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: That girl, like I'm that girl.

460
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: And when you think about your life and you said

461
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: this earlier, and this is the only reason I'm talking

462
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: about because you said out your own mouth, because I

463
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: want to make sure that wasn't being respectful. But you know,

464
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,239
Speaker 2: you talked about obviously being a porn star at one

465
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: one point of time, yes. And one thing that I'm

466
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: a bit advocate for is sometimes in your life you're

467
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: gonna do things that you know. You get older, you

468
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 2: may say, okay, I've done that, but it doesn't it

469
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 2: doesn't dictate.

470
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 3: It does define me and dictate who I am for

471
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 3: the rest of my life.

472
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 2: And I look at you, a former adult star who

473
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 2: is now starring in movies and hosting.

474
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 3: Doing that time.

475
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: Did you ever think, Maddie, that while you were going

476
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: through that time in your life being a sex worker,

477
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: that you would be somebody who has a freaking sample

478
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 2: on a Beyonce.

479
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: Song, a sample on a Beyonce song, a television show

480
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: in her name, multiple shows, multiple movies, universal pick like.

481
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: So no, I didn't. I knew that I was going

482
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: to do something else because my ambitions and my dreams

483
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: were bigger. I thought I was going to do some

484
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: huge stuff in the in the adult film industry, like

485
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: like you know create, you know, big films and the

486
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: adult in the fielming you know. I was like, Okay, God,

487
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: this is where I'm at. I'm just going to make

488
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: the best of it. I'm gonna make the most that

489
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: I can from it. But I also still had dreams

490
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: and aspirations outside of that. And because I had dreams

491
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: and aspirations outside of that, I just continue to work,

492
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: you know, and social media came became like a It

493
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: became like a machine for me because people were able

494
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: to see me outside, see me with my clothes on,

495
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: and see me outside of that. Like that was survival stuff. Child.

496
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about, you know. I just needed to

497
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: survive at the time. This is what The path that

498
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: I'm on now is the path that I've always wanted

499
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: to be on, Like I've always wanted to be mean something,

500
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: not just the star, but mean something, like my presence

501
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: means something. Me being on that album means something because

502
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: that statement that I made talking about Iana Dior and

503
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: talking about George Floyd, that meant something to the world

504
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: at the time. And for a for a global phenomenon

505
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: like Beyonce who has resonated and gotten deep down into

506
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: her blackness to put her voice mess her voice with

507
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: mine signify the power of what I was saying. And

508
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: I always knew that I was bigger than just being naked.

509
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: I just had to be naked at the time to survive.

510
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: But Honey, when I put those clothes on. Oh that's when,

511
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: that's when the real power stepped in.

512
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 3: I love all this, and not only that.

513
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: You just got done starring in a big movie called

514
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: Ros and I got a chance to see it doing

515
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: opening weekend because I want to support you and miss Lawrence,

516
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: because you all are my girls and guys and ladies

517
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: and everyone.

518
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 3: If you haven't seen this movie, go see it.

519
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: But but not only is it funny, Maddie, you are funny.

520
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: You are You're meant to be an actress. And this

521
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: is no shame because you know I don't lie.

522
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 3: I just keep my mouth shut if I don't see

523
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: if I feel differently.

524
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: You have this presence on camera where you drew me

525
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: in and I thought, and this is not me being shady,

526
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: I thought you should have had a bigger role because.

527
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: To me, you were just so. I thought I should

528
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: have had a bigger role too.

529
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 3: So you didn't say I want to be respectful.

530
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: It's okay, because listen, I love you because this is

531
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: what you do and I so this is why we

532
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: love each other. I thought I should have had a

533
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: bigger role too, but you know I didn't. I didn't

534
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: need to come in and outshine you. Know whatever, I

535
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: understood my presence and what I was supposed to do

536
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: and my place was. And also, you know, I'm also

537
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: growing as an actor and as an actress because I'm

538
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: used to being able to freeball. I'm used to reality like, well,

539
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 1: I'm able to walk in the door and you know,

540
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: there's no the only parameters I need to stay in

541
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: is don't throw a bottle, you know, but you know

542
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: you have parameters in then, and I had to learn

543
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: how to you know that this is this person's part,

544
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: This is their words, this is this is you know,

545
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: in the reality world, I'm able to free flow. And

546
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: just like with Bring Back My Girls, I understand that

547
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: these even though I am a huge personality, these this

548
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: is these girls time, and this is their time to

549
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: talk about their experiences on the show, and this is

550
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: their time to talk about, you know, you know, the

551
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: ups and downs in their lives and what the show

552
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: meant to them and how it changed their lives and

553
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: the dynamics of you know, the way their lives is going.

554
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: And I interjected here and there, you know, giving pieces

555
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: of advice and words of encouragement, like, well, you know,

556
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: one of the girls, we're talking about how she wanted to,

557
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: you know, hurt herself because she was, you know, experiencing

558
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: lots of distress from people online. And I said, girl,

559
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: let me explain something to you. As much of an

560
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: icon and as much as a figure that you see me, am,

561
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: I struggle with those things too, because no matter how

562
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: tough your skin is, there are things that can penetrate

563
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: if you poke it enough. It will penetrate if you

564
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: poke it enough. But what you have to understand is

565
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: that those people that are poking at you, they could

566
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: not walk a mouth in your shoes. And so lots

567
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: of times people are poking and stabbing at you because

568
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: they don't have the courage to be who you are.

569
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: And so know that you are stronger than those people.

570
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: And for me to be able to sit there and

571
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: tell tell, you know, the one of the contestants this

572
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: on the show at the reunion was a was a

573
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: magical and magnificent thing for me because I was ministering

574
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: back to myself, like all the great things that have happened,

575
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: all the stuff that goes on in my world. People

576
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: still poke and sometimes it gets through. But bitch, they

577
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: ain't fucking.

578
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 3: With me, Oh they ain't.

579
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 2: They ain't and guys and girls and everyone go see

580
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: the movie. She's really good in it. And I got

581
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: two more questions for you. But Billy Eigner did a

582
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 2: tweet saying he believes homophobia played a role in people

583
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: not seeing it and they're not breaking records, right.

584
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 3: What do you feel about that?

585
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: Because one thing that I will say, and this is

586
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: me creating shows, and I know what it's like to

587
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 2: get a show canceled. I know what it's like to

588
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 2: have a show to be a hit. As they create

589
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 2: a I'm always like, well, bitch.

590
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 3: At least one person saw it. I just that's just me.

591
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: Do you agree with that comment about the reason why

592
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 2: didn't do as well? Or do you think, bitch, for

593
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: a first gay movie, it did damn well.

594
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: I think for the first gay rom com of its

595
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: kind to premiere from a major motion picture, we were

596
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: in the we were They didn't do the projected numbers,

597
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: but we were out of ten movies that was released,

598
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: we were number four. We were number four out of

599
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: ten movies that were we were out of the top ten.

600
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: We were number four. And so when the day is done, growl,

601
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: we can't we can say that, yes, homophobia does play

602
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: a lot of part in a lot of things that

603
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 1: you know that that are centered around LBGTQ. That makes it,

604
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: you know, rocky. But at the end of the day,

605
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: the responsibility lies upon the girls. The girls have to

606
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 1: get out and support the girls because we are already

607
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 1: in a system where people look at well if they don't,

608
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: if they're not supporting themselves, how can we expect everybody

609
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: else to How can we put anything else out nobody?

610
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: They're not going to watch that. And here's where where

611
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 1: we were. We are our own worst enemy. We must

612
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: know that it's our numbers that count, not there, it's

613
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: our numbers. This is why when you drop a new show,

614
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: you might not see me being one of the people

615
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: that watch it. I'm one of the people that's watching

616
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: your show because I know that there are this many

617
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: black producers of television out there, and I know that

618
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: in order for things to continue to for me as

619
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: also now an executive producer of things, I need to

620
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: show up for you so that your neighbors can grow,

621
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: so that people can show up for me, so that

622
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: my numbers. I need you to win so that you

623
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: can continue to open the door for me. They need

624
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: to look at yours and say, well, Carlos is a

625
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 1: black gaming who's created these shows, so it could work. Yes, Yes,

626
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: we have to show up for each other. We have

627
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: to show up for each other. And I think that

628
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: the fault. It's not within the straight community. It's not

629
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: the straight community's fault because I don't expect no straight

630
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: bitch to do anything for me. You know, I don't

631
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: expect them to do a fucking thing for me. My sisters,

632
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: you better.

633
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: Be there, yes, and be there with her new show,

634
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: Bring Back My Girls, bitch.

635
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 3: Oh while, so let them know what it's plus.

636
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: Yes, be there for for Bring Break My Girls on

637
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: Wild Presents Plus. Honey, download the app. It ain't it ain't.

638
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: It's not expensive, Honey. You got Netflix. Get the damn

639
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: Wild Presents Plus because it has it has our content,

640
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: It has our content. This is for us. Yes, you can.

641
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: The straits can watch it. That's good if they love

642
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: you watching it. But girl, this is.

643
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 3: For us, and it's good and it's good.

644
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 2: Got a sneak pick of three episodes, and I'm telling

645
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: y'all it's good and you.

646
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 3: Better watch it. Watch it.

647
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: So my last question is that I want to play

648
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 2: a quick game with you. It's called the fandom question.

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Speaker 2: You and I love reality TV shows and I've had

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Speaker 2: this debate. I'm going to play along with you, but

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Speaker 2: I want to get the Queen Maddie's opinion. Okay, every

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Speaker 2: reality show has fandom, like the fans are intense, right,

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Speaker 2: we love them, but they could be a little intense.

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Speaker 2: So I have three shows, The Real Housewife franchise, The

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Speaker 2: Bachelor franchise, and drag Race franchise.

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Speaker 3: Out of those three shows, which fan base is.

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Speaker 2: The most intense in the sense of they were rita

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Speaker 2: bitsch for filth.

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Speaker 1: Honey, you not going nowhere with the with the games.

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Speaker 1: The drag Race fair will tear you to pieces. The

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Speaker 1: drag Race girls will let you hold it. Okay, you

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Speaker 1: don't want to tell you The drag Race fan they

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Speaker 1: tells mother up. You let mother, don't crown who they want.

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Speaker 1: They be tearing mother up for for months to come.

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Speaker 1: They flow on the inside. What The drag Race fans

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Speaker 1: are almost as deadly as the barb And you know

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Speaker 1: the barbs ain't nothing to be tampera at. It's the barbs,

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Speaker 1: then the beehive, because the beehive is deadly too. But barbs.

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Speaker 2: The barbs are are above the beehive in terms of fandom. Baby,

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Speaker 2: so okay, and it's funny, so I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's drag race the barbs the beehive than housewives.

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Speaker 1: Yes, because housewives they deadly too.

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Speaker 3: Oh they are the trust me.

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Speaker 1: The housewives are deadly, oh.

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Speaker 2: Baby, they go in and and okay, so they.

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Speaker 1: Full of because they full of queens too, They full

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Speaker 1: of Queen Sue. But they older queens, you know, the

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Speaker 1: older queen. It's the young girls, you know. Rad Race

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Speaker 1: appeals to a mass audience, and they appeal to an

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Speaker 1: audience of young people, like of all ages, but those

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Speaker 1: young girls. Listen, you put a blade in a young

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Speaker 1: bitch hand and watch you get cut.

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Speaker 2: And on that note, Maddie, thank you for gracing me

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Speaker 2: with your presence. I know you are a very busy girl. Yes,

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Speaker 2: thank you for taking time out to be in reality

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Speaker 2: for the king. And let the let the listeners know

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Speaker 2: where they can find you follow against the partry in

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Speaker 2: my love.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I am all things. At the Real test Madicine

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Speaker 1: or just Tis madisone. You'll find me Instagram at the

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Speaker 1: Real Tis Madison, YouTube at the Real Tis Madison, Twitter,

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Speaker 1: Tis the Royal Tis like it's just I'm just tears

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Speaker 1: master everywhere and Carlos, I got a great project idea

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Speaker 1: that me and you need to sit down with World

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Speaker 1: of Wonder and talk about because I need you to

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Speaker 1: get me on b E T Plus. I need some

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Speaker 1: black I got some black stuff that I'm ready to

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Speaker 1: put get together for b ET plus. Honey, that's the

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Speaker 1: visit wow at your boy? Yeah all right, but thanks

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Speaker 1: Maddie girl, I love you.

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Speaker 2: I am so happy that I was able to catch

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Speaker 2: up with my good.

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Speaker 3: Girl TS Madison.

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Speaker 2: She is such a gem and look, I am really

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Speaker 2: proud of her because she really wanted to be the

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Speaker 2: woman that she's become taking over Hollywood, the music industry

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Speaker 2: and look here, Ts Madison, when you get a Parkwood box, bitch, get.

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Speaker 3: Beyonce my actress girl, because I want one to child.

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