1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Sports Radio hour or two on this Tuesday, Dan and 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: The Dans Dan Patrick Show come on in stay a while. 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: We've got a controversy going on. It's a continuation of 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: a controversy yesterday late in the show where we found 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: out from Carson Palmer he got the case that is 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: supposed to have the Heisman Trophy in it for his 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: induction into the College Football Hall of Fame last night 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. But the key to opening this very 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: secure case was not there with it. I don't know 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: if the Heisman is in there. I'm hoping it is, 12 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: but we can't find the key. The key has been lost, 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: and I don't know if this is some sort of 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: bait and switch Indiana Jones where somebody might have put 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: a forty pounds sack of sand in there and maybe 16 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,959 Speaker 1: they have the Heisman Trophy on their mantel. I don't know. 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: I just know I went in the back in the 18 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: back room guys. As quoting one of the back room guys, 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: I will blow the damn lid off this. If I 20 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: get immunity. You can grant that, I can grant, I 21 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: can grant immunity. All I know is Dylan in the 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: back is pointing a finger at Mario and says, I 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: will blow I will blow this out of the water 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: if I'm granted immunity. And I am going to grant 25 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: Dylan immunity here, I might have to put him on 26 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: the air here. But like the Sammy the bull of 27 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: the back room, Well, it didn't take long before they 28 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: started to turn on one another Henry Hill like Henry Hill. Yes, yes, 29 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: but it was. There was some finger pointing as I 30 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: walked back and the big german is just there listening, 31 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: and I went, oh wow. And then that's when I 32 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: got the bombshell. You give me immunity and I'll blow 33 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: this damn thing out of the water. Yes time. So 34 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: Mary already has that ill advised basketball shot that will 35 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: never let him live, and we're gonna put this on 36 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: top of him too. And so with this whole Carson 37 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: Palmer Heisman situation is well, that's a lot to handle. 38 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: It feels like you're shifting blame there. Do you like 39 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: the fact that it's been narrowed down to just Dylan 40 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: and Mario as the culprits. Okay, but you were the overseer. 41 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: I guess I was the delegator for the delegator slash 42 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: over here Sean Payton got suspended for a year. That's true. 43 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: That's very true. Okay, And look, I will take it 44 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: upon myself that I let you be involved in it. 45 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,839 Speaker 1: Therefore I let Dylan and Mario, so it is on me. Yes, 46 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: it is a Dan Patrick show sit. I do take 47 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: full responsibility. I chose the wrong people to trust. You did. Yes, 48 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: that was poor job by Yes see you thought we 49 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: could handle that. I just while we're firing off blame everywhere, 50 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: I just do want to say that it was you 51 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: who put it in the box? Correct? No, oh, I 52 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: thought that was the did the update from yesterday, you 53 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: were the one who actually placed the heisman in the grate. 54 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: I watched it close. I didn't put it in. I 55 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: don't pick up something that heavy. I mean, I lift 56 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: this show every day, but I'm not. I'm not. I 57 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: have people who carry around my trophies. I watched said 58 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: heisman be put into the suitcase. I did not yes 59 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: permission to badge your the witness, so you did have 60 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: the opportunity to say, how exactly are you planning on 61 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: putting the key in with this mail it out so 62 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: that everything runs smoothly on there and when they get no, 63 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: because I didn't know how said key arrived with said 64 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: heisman to begin with, Todd, But why should it matter 65 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: how it came if you think there's a certain specific 66 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: way that I should go back. Why would I think 67 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: somebody shipping it out is going to slap a key 68 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: on an envelope on a suitcase and it's got the 69 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: heisman in there. You just said moments ago you should 70 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: have known bet as to who to delegate this responsibility to, 71 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: so that basically means you knew that there would be 72 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: some incompetence involved. All the more reason why you should say, 73 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: here is exactly how I'd like you to send the key, 74 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: because I don't trust you guys to send it back there. 75 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: This is why I delegate ton so people can have 76 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: some kind of responsibility. You claim from being an executive 77 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: producer on here to a book in the corner, a 78 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: self titled executive producer, and then you go, I'm just 79 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: a booker, actual, I said, senior vice president of Talent 80 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: slash executive producer. But now in this situation, I'm just 81 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: a booker. I get the guests. I don't know what 82 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: happened with the key. I will give Dylan immunity and 83 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: I will talk to him during the commercial break and 84 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: I will get to the bottom of this bombshell. But really, 85 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: we got to find the key. That's it, no matter what, 86 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: no matter who's to blame, we got to find the 87 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: damn key for the heisman. Carson Palmer was inducted into 88 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: College Football Hall of Fame last night in Las Vegas, 89 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: and he wanted to have his heisman on display. Who 90 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to have the heisman with him in there 91 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: in Vegas, right, Fritzie, you have to have at least 92 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: that you're the heisman trophy. Romo's there and you got 93 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: that over Romo. Yes, I mean all you got it. 94 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: Tony Romo got induct did too. Carson Palmer brings out 95 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: the suitcase and it's like bulga and that's like scoreboard. 96 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: Tony Romo didn't have that. He and Romo brought the 97 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: same number of heisman's to the ceremonial. Wow, too soon, 98 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: dang too soon. I somehow gave Carson Palmer the heisman. 99 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: I did because he couldn't open it up, so he 100 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: has his heisman suitcase, and we don't have the key 101 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: for the heisman. But we did say I hope it 102 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: works out and a good luck to you. I did 103 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: put out that email. It's not like we're completely insensitive 104 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: to the situation. I'll tell you one day you'll be 105 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: able to figure out how to open the case without 106 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: the strike. But didn't they send an email saying, hey, 107 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,559 Speaker 1: no luck, we haven't found the key, and then didn't 108 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: you follow up with an insensitive like it wasn't meant 109 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: to be in something? Good weekend? Guys? Yeah? Maybe? About 110 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: twelve minutes later, I said, any luck opening that even 111 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: though they just said that we can't. What are you 112 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: gonna do? Well? I don't know what I'm gonna do, 113 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: but I feel terrible because you know, I got Carson 114 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: Palmer gave us his heisman, loaned it to us, and 115 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: we've lost it. And that's that's a bummer. Can we 116 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: really believe it's a chance when that case open? Don't 117 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: if we need Horoldo River to show up that there's 118 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: something other than the heisman trophy in that case right now? 119 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if you would take the key out 120 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: of the envelope, if you weren't going to look inside 121 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: the package inside the suitcase and steal the heisman trophy 122 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: altogether and put sand in there. It's that why why 123 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: are you laughing about this time? I'm just just the 124 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: thought of them opening the case and breaking this thing 125 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: open and it's something other than the Heisman trophy. It's 126 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: not funny, but it's that's just wild that that could 127 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: possibly even be something that could be existing there. Yeah, 128 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,559 Speaker 1: it's like, guys, it's like Haraldo and he finally opens 129 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: up that tomb and there's nothing by there al Capone's 130 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: vault there by the way segue. The Heisman finalists were 131 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: announced Aidan Hutchinson, Kenny Pickett, c J. Stroud, and Bryce Young. Yes, 132 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: Bryce Young, the expected winners, already on record of sing 133 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: there's no chance, but that's coming to the unappen Yes, 134 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: pay three of those young men will not have a heisman, 135 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: just like Carson Palmer. Uh. You know, it'd be a 136 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: better conversation piece if you just put the briefcase on 137 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: the mantel and people wanted to know what was in there, 138 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: and you just say, oh, the heisman, heisman is in there. 139 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: That's that's all you need. Yes, Yes, I'll just answered 140 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: the phone, which he never does in it show. He's 141 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: usually very annoyed at people who call him during the show. 142 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: But this, this must be very important. Yeah, yes, we 143 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: didn't give you. The hour two pole is actually from 144 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: mostly from the Twitter. Who's to blame? Our choices are 145 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: Todd Dylan in the back, Mario in the back, you, 146 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer, the Heisman people, the College Football Hall of Fame, 147 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: and we have a writing for Mark Emmert, the NCA president. 148 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: How about the shipping company. Yes, we won't name which 149 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: shipping company. The shipping company. Yeah, Paula, you answered the phone. 150 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: It was an area code that was the same airy 151 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: code as the College Football Hall of Fame. I picked 152 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: it up and there was no answer. I'm not making 153 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: that up. It was the same airy code. Oh I 154 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: think they're preparing a statement. Oh my god, this is 155 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: this is horrible. And I had people yesterday saying, hey, 156 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: good bit with the Carson Palmer Heisman thing. I said, 157 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: it's not a bit. There there is no key. Our 158 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: truth is always better than our fiction. Yes, yeah, we're 159 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: not good at fiction. Our truth is is great. It's entertaining. Yes, 160 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: MC club, what if you pitch a screenplay and you 161 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: told the story. The first thing would be like, wait, 162 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: why did Carson Palmer send his husband? I know, I 163 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: know we're not gonna get anything anymore. We don't win awards. 164 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: We ask people to send their awards. Darius Rutgers Grammy 165 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: from Hooting the Blowfish. But he did get that back. 166 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: I just send that back when the Grammys, they saw 167 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: it on my desk and I'm like, what get that back? 168 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: So we're one for two. Harold Reynolds got his gold 169 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: Glove back, so I'm two for three right now. That 170 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: one though, we were like, ah, we'll just send this 171 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: one back. I'm Mac Jones. I'm two for three last night. Yes, 172 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: it's a big incompletion and big like a red zone 173 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: in completion. I've lost the we've lost the key. Were 174 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: like a pick six on this one. Yes it is. 175 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: Somebody picked it off. Yeah, and you're gonna make jokes, 176 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: you know they joke boy. I was just thinking that 177 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: Harold Reynolds thing couldn't even count. Then you could get 178 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: like a garage sale in your neighborhood. The gold glove, 179 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: spray painting, whatever cardboard thing that was. That's that's offensive 180 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: to all Gold Glove Award winners. I will make a 181 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: lot of errors if that's what you're gonna get. I agree, Todd, 182 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: I'm with you. Ball for your legs. I don't need that. 183 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: Just you know what. I'm a bronze, I'm a silver. 184 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: It's the most disappointing award I've ever seen ever. Hell, 185 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: no offense. If you would have said, hey, look at 186 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: my kid, did I'd go, oh, that's cute, that's nice. 187 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: You know Timmy, what is he nine? Yeah? Yeah, you 188 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: got some rustolium. Put all this Macaronians on a cigar box. 189 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: Here you go, Marry Christmas Dad. The exact same vibe. 190 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: The gold Glove was. Really they spray painted two baseballs 191 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: and it looked like it would be a Little League 192 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: trophy of sorts. And then they just put a glove 193 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: and spray painted that as well, and they went, hey, 194 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: gold glove, and that's it. Yes, time my son's participation trophy. 195 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: And they think of age seven would rival putting it 196 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: next to that gold glove. You'd probably take my kid's 197 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: trophy over that. Cliff. Yeah, that was really disappointing. Like 198 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: the Heisman's heavier than what you think. I shouldn't be 199 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: bringing up the heisman again. I got a distance myself 200 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: from then, yes, my cloven. Yeah, Tod's trying to change 201 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: the subject kids by ripping the gold slow Oh yeah. 202 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: Um all right, So I'm going to grand immunity from 203 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: Dylan who works in the back. He was part of 204 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: the shipping team. I'm dooel the brain trust. Yeah exactly. 205 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: Uh as Mario said, are you going to trust a 206 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: guy who looks like he's homeless? And then Dylan then said, 207 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: you look like a failed gym teacher. So character assassinations, Yeah, 208 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: you don't have facts on your side. You make fun 209 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: of the witness. Yeah, you look like a failed gym 210 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: teacher is pretty pretty good. That's pretty good. Where are you? 211 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: Just as a line not necessarily directed at Mario, but 212 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: that's a pretty good line. But the fact that it 213 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: is directed at Mario makes it even makes a little bit. Yes, 214 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: oh man, Annie who Tom in Ohio? Hi? Tom? What's 215 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: on your mind today? Damn you doing? Oh well, not great? 216 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: Not great today? I I you know, I'm getting a 217 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: good laugh out and everything, just like everybody else's. But um, 218 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: if that case gets opened up and that heisman is missing, 219 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: I think the levity will end. Oh yeah, somebody's done. 220 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: Somebody's going to want that heisman back. Or I mean, 221 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: Carson's the laid back guy and he's happy, go lucky, 222 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: and it was in his garage and I understand all that, 223 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: but that's his heisman trophy. Dan, I know, Tom, I'm 224 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm bummed down. I'm I'm being serious, I'm bummed down. 225 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: Why touch? Someone called the College Football Hall of Favor, 226 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: That's what I was. Then what happens there? Holding it 227 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: for ransom with one of those electronic voices and you 228 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: can't Tracey who it is? PAULI would you check eBay 229 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: just to see if somebody kind of heisman up there? Yeah? Seton, 230 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: I did yesterday. Actually I did check eBay yesterday. A 231 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: lot of replicas. I wasn't able to come across a 232 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer. I just feel bad. I mean, he's inducted 233 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: into the College Football Hall of Fame and he said, hey, 234 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: I need the heisman. They wanted to display it, you know, 235 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: boxed it up, sent it out, got the box that 236 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: it's in, can't open it, no key. Yeah, Polly, this 237 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: isn't the wildest way a USC athlete has lost a 238 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: Heisman trophy, but it's want of many. Now, OJ, we 239 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with Oj. We had nothing to 240 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: do with him. Reggie Bush, We had nothing to do. 241 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: That's not true. Well you did. Yes, we had a 242 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: little something to do with Reggie Bush's heisman being found 243 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: and sent back. Yeah. Yeah, PAULI was on a mission. 244 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: Oh I got some tips, Yes you did. It's like 245 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: the Heisman committee didn't know where the heisman was and 246 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: Paully goes, oh, find it. Well, yeah, they wanted it 247 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: back and they it wasn't sent bad. Okay, find the 248 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: key then, yes, Ton, you can get a Carson palm 249 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: or pretty much any heisman mini holiday ornaments for fourteen 250 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: ninety nine as a consolation. For some reason, it's a 251 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: thing of sand that it's not in there. Would he 252 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: accept that fifteen dollars ornament as an alternative? There has 253 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: to be a master key for these heisman boxes. It 254 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: shaped like the Heisman guy in a little That might 255 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: be the giveaway. But somebody opened up the envelope. We 256 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: have a picture of the envelope that was opened up. Yes, 257 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm told by one of my sources that when they 258 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: went to the shipping facility the person. The shipping facility 259 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: did some extra taping to make sure it was more 260 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: secure the envelope. Okay, so when it left our shores 261 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: or our area, it was more secure than when we 262 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: handed off to the shipping people, more secure that the 263 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: person felt. That was what I heard from the back room. Yeah, 264 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: but I don't know what to believe in the back room. 265 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: Of course, there is there is chaos back there right now. 266 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: Roger in Indiana, Hi, Roger Wood's on your mind. I 267 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: have the key I had to pull over. I was 268 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: laughing so hard. You can't. You can't tell me there's 269 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: not a locksmith in Las Vegas to get into that thing. 270 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: All I know is what I'm told through Paulie from 271 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer's people in the College Football Hall of Fame. 272 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: That's all I know, because I said to Carson, is 273 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: there a master key? But he couldn't open Okay. All 274 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: I know is he couldn't open up and display his 275 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: heisman last night at the College Football Hall of Fame. 276 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: That's all I know. All Right, I gotta go in 277 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: the back. I got to see if I'm going to 278 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: grant Dylan immunity, and then we'll find out if Mario 279 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: is the person to blame. Take a break back. 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Learn more at discover dot com slash 290 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: Yes twenty twenty one Nielsen Report limitations apply. Thanks for 291 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to 292 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern 293 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you 294 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR, or 295 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: stream us live on the Peacock app. All right, I 296 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: went in the back During the commercial break, Mario is 297 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: back there, Dylan is back there, and they're pointing figures 298 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: at one another about who is the one to blame 299 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: for the missing key For Carson Palmer's Heisman case. Can 300 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: you guys have Dylan come out? He can sit in 301 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: mclovin's chair, and I gave him immunity. But Dylan's going 302 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: to come out. I granted him immunity. Mario wants immunity 303 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: as well. But Mario is supposed to be the one 304 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: who was heading this up. So Dylan is the one 305 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: who I guess is responsible for shipping out the Heisman 306 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: case and a key attached to it. Yes, polling, Dan, 307 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: before you get to the interview for radio people, how 308 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: would you describe what Dylan looks like? What was the 309 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator who went to work for the Lions from 310 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: the Patriots Matt Patricia. Oh yeah, he looks like if 311 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: Mett Patricia was more down on his luck. I have 312 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: gotten that before. Okay, a few more vices. Perhaps this 313 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: isn't the first time that Dylan has been granted immunity 314 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: in his life. But you you have the opportunity here. 315 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: Do you have a statement to make? I do? First 316 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: of all, I want him the record I'm not a rat, 317 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: never been a rat, but I would like to clear 318 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: my name. Okay, So Mario, it's Mario's fault, really at 319 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,479 Speaker 1: the end of the day. Okay. I was instructed by Mario, 320 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: which I should have ignored, to be honest. But he said, 321 00:17:55,840 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: it's in an envelope, tape to the outside of the case. Okay. 322 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: So I go to so it was already taped. No, 323 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: it was not. It had been when it got here. 324 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: So I an instructed to tape the key to the 325 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: side of the heisman. Yes, okay by Maria. Okay, who 326 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: is your boss? Um No, but he said, and I 327 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: definitely shouldn't listen to him. Um. So I take it 328 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: to FedEx. First, I put it in a white envelope, 329 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: the one that we've seen in the photograph, the one 330 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: that was opened, the one that was open. It was 331 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: not open at the time it was sealed, okay. And 332 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: then at FedEx it was put into a plastic sleeve 333 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: which was then stuck onto the case. So a second 334 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: layer of protection by the shipping company. Yes, and I 335 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: was not told to do otherwise by the professionals at 336 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: said shipping company, thereby clearing me of any guilt. So 337 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: did you at any point think this seems maybe a 338 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: little haphazard. I'm gonna be honest, and I didn't, which 339 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: is probably worse, but it looked pretty legit to me 340 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: at the time. Um, all right, we'll go back in 341 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 1: the in the back. I hope that's enough to you know, 342 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: make immunity worthwhile. Nobody's gonna be fired. I'm not gonna 343 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 1: fire anybody that's too bad. Kills the bed, kind of 344 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: ruins the bed. Yeah. See, yeah, I don't want to 345 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: make a serious situation more serious. But the second layer 346 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: of envelope that was there, the plastic one that was 347 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: then the paper one, was put inside of another one 348 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: that was then taped to the side of it. Yeah, 349 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: really really really makes it sound like somebody deliberately opened it, 350 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: and makes me much more concerned that the Heisman trophy 351 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: is actually inside the box. Wait you think the heisman 352 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: is in there? It makes me wonder even more if 353 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: it's actually in there, if if that means somebody to 354 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: to for for the paper to have been ripped the 355 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: way that it was, it would have had to gone 356 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: through the plastic one and then the paper one, and 357 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: then somehow the key fell out of both of those. 358 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: That's two layers. Oh man, that's very nervous. I believe 359 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: somebody opened it up, but I don't know if you 360 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: know there were any markings on the box of if 361 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: it looked like they tried to open it up. You know, 362 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: we we don't know, because did Carson Palmer mention the 363 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: heisman last night when he was there for the Hall 364 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: of Fame induction. Yes, we have this brief piece of audio. Okay, 365 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: that's it. That's all I have. That's it. Yeah, the 366 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: actual audio cars Now, that's the that's the movie seven, 367 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: isn't it. That's not true. No, No, that's actual audio, Carson, 368 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: It isn't that. Brad Pitt. Yes, So you know, I 369 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: was a paralegal. I have some legal expertise. I heard 370 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: Dylan talking, and immediately I could tell he had been 371 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: lawyered up, like he knew. He was like here too. Therefore, 372 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: like he was a little too fancy. I don't know 373 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: if you trust him. Okay, Yes. He also said Mario 374 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: told me to do it, and I did, which is 375 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: not good enough for me. That's he said. He said. 376 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: He's like, well he told me too. It's like, well, yeah, 377 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: you're supposed to know better, though, although Dylan did admit 378 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: to not knowing better. Yeah. At the same time, so 379 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: he wears socks when it's eight degrees out. I mean 380 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: he wears no socks. He wears slip on when it's 381 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: eight degrees out. Come on. Yeah, But I can't dinging 382 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: for that. I mean there's other things. You do. Get 383 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: the sense though, that if anybody here could break into 384 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: that box, it's Dylan, yes, and I who needs the key. 385 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: I'll just bust into it myself. God, I feel so 386 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: bad if somebody has stolen that ana. But why take 387 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: out the key if you didn't use the key like 388 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: I don't. That's what I don't know here. And also 389 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: why stick the envelope back on there ripped off? Like 390 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: if it was ripped open, and then what they tape 391 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: it back on. That doesn't make a lot of sense either, 392 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: Like just throw the thing away, Mike and Kentucky. I Mike, 393 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: what's on your mind? Dann? I got a way in 394 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: on the subject here the first time, long time. First off, 395 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: I got to blame it all on Carson. And this 396 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: is how I plead the case on that. If you 397 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: remember the movie Animal House, when Tinto the new Pledge 398 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: had his brother's car for the weekend, Bluto and the 399 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: gang commandeered it with him in it. They end up 400 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: trashing it. By the end of the night, the new 401 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: pledge says, oh my god, what am I going to 402 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: tell my brother? And they looked at him and said, 403 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,959 Speaker 1: what were you thinking letting us borrow the car? Right? 404 00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: It's a fair point. Well, thank you. We're gonna see 405 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: if there's an update from Carson. Yeah. See, the animal 406 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: house defense is rarely used, but in this instance seems accurate. 407 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: Sean and Sacramento. Hey, Sean, what's on your mind? My 408 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: uncle's from another mother. My brothers behind the bullard Man 409 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: five eight a very thick two o eight. So my take, 410 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: real quick, man is doing are we on the first 411 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: forty eight? He's definitely the guy sipping a cup of coffee, 412 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: smoking a cigarette, spilling the beans and rolling over everybody 413 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: like a freaking mactruck. That is that is the worst 414 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen in Dan Patrick history. Man. I 415 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: was all upset about Nick Love and leaving last week, 416 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: and then this week you got a rat in the 417 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: back room. Look, man, I think I speak for everybody, 418 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: all of Dan Patrick Nason when I say suck it. Daling. Wow. Uh. 419 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: Todd has some correspondence here from Mario Do you want 420 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: to do you want to Rebond, I just look back 421 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: on some intan messages. Is this on the record or 422 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: off the record? Think it's on the record. There's nothing 423 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: like a or inappropriate. That's not how it works. Okay, 424 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: what do you have? But our instant messages for public 425 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: was it just meant for that person? That's a good question. No, 426 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: you can bring but at any rate. October twenty fifth, 427 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: eleven thirty three a at Easter time, I sent any 428 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: tracking in for on Carson's Husman delivery to the College 429 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: Football but College Hall of Fame. Mario response right away, 430 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: wouldn't let you down, Fritzel. I follow up with I 431 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: know you're super responsible. Mario writes receipts in my car. 432 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: We'll track post show. Thank you very much, I say, 433 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: Mario responsive, will follow up via email with you in Carson. 434 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: I said, much, appreciate it, thanks as always for being thorough. 435 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: His response was A says it was received three minutes ago. 436 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: This was October twenty fifth, eleven forty am Eastern, and 437 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: I wrote awesome back to that, and that's the instant 438 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: message communication that goes with that. Len He says, I 439 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: won't let you down. It feels like you're the one 440 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: in charge that he doesn't want to let you down, 441 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: or I'm being led to believe that he is super 442 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: responsible like I thought, and it will be handled. Probably. 443 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to let you down, not the show, 444 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: not Dan. But he actually did let me down because I, 445 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: for lack of a better would have signed the shipping 446 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: to Mario. But then I later found out marriage decided 447 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: why don't I give this to Dylan to send out? 448 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: So I don't know what that's all about. If I'm 449 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: so in charge and I asked Mario to do it, 450 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: I how did Mario end up giving it to Dylan 451 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: to ultimately send out? That's an important question. I love 452 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: that Todd will present evidence against himself in this process. Yeah, 453 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: we're looking back at what I just read. That doesn't 454 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: bode that great for me. By the way, you said 455 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: that Mario was Dylan's boss, which was That's probably a 456 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: whole twelve fifteen podcast episode in itself. Now I have 457 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: people asking how much is the reward going to be 458 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: for the shafe return of the Heisman key. I don't know. 459 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to talk to Carson. Yeah, Seed, when 460 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: is the You know how we were talking before about 461 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: there are emails back and forth about you know, the Heisman. 462 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: People said hey, we lost the key, and Todd was like, hey, 463 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: do you find the key, you know, like inappropriate league 464 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 1: fast where obviously they didn't find it. How long ago 465 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: was that communication and has there been any communication in 466 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: the month lead you know since, because all of this 467 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: was happening in October and it's you know, December seventh. Now, 468 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: how much communicate? When's the last time we heard from 469 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: them about if they got the key or got the 470 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: box open? Ton, I want to check on that. There 471 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: was a couple of communications with over the last couple 472 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: month which led me to believe either they opened it 473 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: or they just found you know, just found another way 474 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: around it to get it open. They were very concerned 475 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: about breaking the case. They wanted to keep it authentic 476 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 1: and intact. But there was no communication that suggested that 477 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: they did open and bound the trophy to be in there. 478 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: Where other vans stop short, Thank you, Ton, Mercedes Benz 479 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: vans go far beyond from their customization options. We should 480 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: have just put it in a Mercedes van and driven 481 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: across country to Vegas. That's what we should have done. 482 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: Take the key to the side of the Mercedes Benz Van. 483 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: Mercedes Benz Vans are built, equipped and engineered to be 484 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: ready for anything, go the extra mile, taking the all 485 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: important first step into an authorized to gator ship. So heay, 486 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: all right, We right by the Patriots beating the Buffalo Bills. 487 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: They ran the ball forty six times, they had three 488 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: pass attempts, and they ended up winning the game. Here 489 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: is Bill Belichick on last night's game plan. Bill. At 490 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: one point, did you and astill you're gonna have such 491 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: a running heavy? Of course it was at the plan 492 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: all week. Or was that the gig? No? No, you know, 493 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: we didn't know what it was going to be. So 494 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: it worked out. I don't know, Like Josh did a 495 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: good job throwing the ball out there today. It's not easy. 496 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: I thought he did a pretty good job. Not that 497 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: he'd had a career day or anything, but it was. 498 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: It was tough conditions, but he slung it in. They're 499 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: pretty good, I means, some really good throws. Here's Josh 500 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: Allen on the conditions. We gotta play better, that's no secret. 501 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: We gotta start winning games to compaish. We went accomplished, 502 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: but like I said, everything's in front of us and 503 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: we kind of get to control our own destiny. You know, 504 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta find a way to keep winning there, 505 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: you know, start winning games here towards the end and 506 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: um start stacking them together. But it starts with the 507 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: next one. McLevin. The schedule, they have Tampa coming up, 508 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: they have Atlanta and then New England again I believe 509 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: so wait, they have Carolina in there at some point too, 510 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: But yeah, they're probably looking at like ten and seven. 511 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: Will that get them in? They have the Bucks, then 512 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 1: they have the Panthers, then they go to the Patriots, 513 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: then they host the Falcons, and then they end up 514 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: with the Jets in Buffalo. I'm going to guess they 515 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: win three to five. That puts them at ten and seven. Well, 516 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: with that extra playoff spot, that certainly helps. Yeah, McLellan, 517 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: is it possible they're kind of more built to play 518 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,959 Speaker 1: a Buccaneers team and they could you know, that might 519 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: be a better matchup for them. Well, they blew out 520 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: the Saints, like you're trying to figure out who some 521 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: of these teams are, and that was surprising that you 522 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: know what they did to New Orleans in New Orleans 523 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: In case you want to get Bill Belichick a lot 524 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: of credit, maybe not Sean McDermott, the Bill's head coach, 525 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: on that. How would you just explain the psychological component 526 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: of coach against Bill Belichick, especially when he's doing something 527 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: like that was running the ball constantly. Let's not give 528 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: more credit than we need to give credit to Bill Belichick, 529 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: And this one it was whether it's Bill or anybody else, 530 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: they beat us, right. But you sit here and you 531 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: tell me when they start with the average starting when 532 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: we start with adverstarting field position of the forty yard 533 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: line and he starts with the twenty three yard line, 534 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: you give me that ahead of I'm sorry, I like 535 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: my chances. I like my chances. So it's not I 536 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: don't think, with all due respect, it's not a Bill 537 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: Belichick type thing. It's what are you doing with the 538 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: opportunities you got? Well, I got a factor in Bill 539 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: Belichick because you did have those opportunities, you did have 540 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: that field position, and you did nothing against his defense, 541 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: and you had them in bad field position and they 542 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: still ran the ball on you. So I gotta give 543 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick a lot of credit here, and I'm gonna 544 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: give Sean McDermot and the Bills a lot of blame here. 545 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: Capital wise, you're at home. He acted as if you've 546 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: never seen cold Weather before. But they are so dependent 547 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: on Josh Allen, and as much as I'd like him, 548 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: there's only so much he can do. They knew the 549 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: Patriots were going to run the football and couldn't stop him. 550 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: So yes, I'm gonna put that blame on McDermott, but 551 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to give a lot of credit to Bill 552 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: Belichick and the entire Patriots because that defense was great, 553 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,479 Speaker 1: and I know Buffalo had a chance to win. You're 554 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: supposed to win those games like this isn't one of 555 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: those where you go, well, that would have been cool 556 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: if Buffalo. This isn't Buffalo like you know seven years ago. 557 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: You're supposed to be one of the front runners in 558 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: the AFC. You're supposed to have a you know, one 559 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: of the leading candidates for the MVP. You know, great 560 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: teams win these games even when the conditions aren't great, 561 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: or you don't play at your best, or they take 562 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: away something from you. It's just Buffalo is not meant 563 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: to play Buffalo. Weather still could have won it. But 564 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: this is the difference. This is where you look at 565 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,239 Speaker 1: a team, you look at a coach, you look at 566 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: an organization, and I'm going to gainst the Patriots who 567 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: are like, we're going to win this game. I don't 568 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: know if Buffalo felt the same way, but I can 569 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: guarantee New England did. They're like, yeah, we like what 570 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: we're doing. We got a good we got a good 571 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: game plan. Defensively, offensively, Mac Jones throws three times. And 572 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: it's not like you go, you would have let Mac 573 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: Jones throw right, stack the box, make Mac Jones throw 574 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: the football. He didn't do it, couldn't do it. It's 575 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: pretty amazing, Yeah, McClellan. So they play in three weeks 576 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: and sides a division game. Couldn't Buffalo easily turn around 577 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: and win that game and change a narrative right back? 578 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: They better because if they don't, then, you know, then 579 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: you've got a bigger issue. Here is this team. And look, 580 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: they could lose to New England, they could lose to Tampa. 581 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: Now they can win those games and then maybe they're 582 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: on an uptick. But if you lose those two and 583 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: you're beating a pedestrian Atlanta team and a Carolina team 584 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,719 Speaker 1: and the Jets, you're not ready for the playoffs. Now, 585 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: you've got to be able to show that you can 586 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: win one of these games, a big game, and they haven't. 587 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: They haven't beaten. Look at all the marquee teams that 588 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: now tough schedule, but New England seems to be doing 589 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: okay with that same kind of schedule. Yeah, mcclub. So, 590 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: who's a favorite in the AFC or who? Right now? 591 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: As of week thirteen, I don't know. Can I say 592 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: nobody is a favorite because I don't know. If you 593 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: run down, I would still stay. You know, I said 594 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: Kansas City was going to the Super Bowl, and I 595 00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: still believe that. But I don't trust the Ravens. The 596 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: Titans without Derrick Henry. The Colts are sneaky. The Colts 597 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: were the two teams I looked in the AFC, the 598 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: Colts and the Titans to go to the super Bowl 599 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: to start the year. I trust the Chiefs. I don't 600 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: trust the Chargers anybody else that I'm missing there. Patriots, 601 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,959 Speaker 1: I have them in there. I mean maybe they are 602 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: a super Bowl caliber team. I guess I gotta I 603 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: gotta include that. You know, the Bengals just lost at home, 604 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: got blown out by the Chargers. I don't know. I 605 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: don't know if there is a front runner because if 606 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: you say New England, it might be recency biased. Yeah, 607 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: I M Cleveland, and what happened in that AFC North 608 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: with all the teams are if you write out Baltimore, Cleveland, 609 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh ends into that. Yeah yeah, what if Cleveland doesn't 610 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: make the playoffs? Yeah? I know. Wow. All right, let's 611 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: take a break. More phone calls coming up now. Todd 612 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: is supplying some correspondence with Carson Palmer. I do have 613 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: some stuff, okay, which includes communication between Crossing and the 614 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Paulie, do you have the cost to 615 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: replace a heisman? Unfortunately? Yes. All right, let me take 616 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: a break and then you can break the news to me. 617 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 1: We're back after this from the Dan Patrick Shown. Thanks 618 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure 619 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon 620 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and 621 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR 622 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock app. Hey what's 623 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: up everybody? It's me three time pro bowler Le Barrington, 624 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: and I couldn't be more excited to announce a new podcast, 625 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: call Up on Game. What is Up on Game? You asked, 626 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: along with my fellow pro bowler t J. Hushman, Zada 627 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: and Super Bowl champion. Yep, that's right, Plexico Burds. You 628 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: can only name a show with that type talent on it. 629 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: Up on Game We're going to be sharing our real 630 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: life experiences loaded with teachable moments. Listen to Up on 631 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: Game with me LeVar Arrington, t J. Hutchman's Out of 632 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: and Plexico Birds on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or 633 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts from age seven seven three 634 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: DP show email address DPA, dan Patrick dot com. Todd 635 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: has some correspondence with Carson Palmer. He went into the 636 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: College Football Hall of Fame and he was going to 637 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: have his heisman there on display. And is it tonight 638 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: that he's going in the Hall of Famer? Was it 639 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: last night? Time? Tonight? Okay? Well, either way, he's not 640 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,240 Speaker 1: going to have the heisman open, I don't think because 641 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the key. We've lost the key. What 642 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: does Carson say? What's some of the correspondents here? Okay, 643 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: so I sent a note to the Hall of Fame 644 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,280 Speaker 1: and they said, um, thank you. I have not attempted 645 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: to open it. However, opening it without the key will 646 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: likely caused damage to the case. This was October twenty ninth. 647 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: I had our security check the tapes and it appears 648 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: that it was already opened when it arrived to us. 649 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 1: Then Dylan responded with we reached out to FedEx. Unfortunately, 650 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: there's nothing they can do about the case UNTI it 651 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 1: was ripped off or removed during transit, no unique tracking 652 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: number apart from the case itself. Apologies, and then the 653 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame contacts Carson and says, Hope Paul's well, 654 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to see if we had permission to attempt 655 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: to open it. We then reattach a new locking mechanism 656 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: before shipping it back to you. If not, we can 657 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: send it back to you directly apologize for the inconvenience. 658 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: And Carson responded on November eighth with, yes, you have 659 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: permission to open it, but we don't know if it 660 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,919 Speaker 1: was actually ever opened. What concerns me is I had 661 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: our security checked the tapes, and it appears that it 662 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: was already opened when it arrived to us. Wow, that's 663 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 1: the envelope that was already open or the Heisman case vegue. 664 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 1: It was just the envelope that is referring to PAULI. 665 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: What is the cost of a heisman? Dan? My sources 666 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: with the Heisman trophy just got back to us. They said, 667 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: to buy a heisman, I see its hundreds of thousands 668 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: of dollars depending on the auction, but to have one 669 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: redone that caused some materials, molds, casting, and labor would 670 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: be in the three to five thousand ballpark. They would 671 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: give me a specific number, but I think you'd be 672 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 1: You could build a heisman, a new one for under 673 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: five thousand, Okay, Ithi's not that bad, Okay, especially since 674 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: I'm not paying Fritzie. Well, I can absorb that if 675 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: if if, but it's going to come out of you know, 676 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: Fritzie's I guess deducted from paycheck. Well, you just demoted 677 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: yourself like now you're just a Booker's true? And like 678 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 1: I was paying you as an executive producer. Now you're 679 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: a booker. All the more reads I could. I could 680 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 1: use every dollar I can get. If I'm just getting 681 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: the booker salary, I would hope you wouldn't talk. What 682 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: if somebody took it out and built their own heisman 683 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: that was a fake and put it in there and 684 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:55,439 Speaker 1: has the real heisman. I'm not ruling out anything right now. Yeah. See, 685 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: like people who fake art artworks, it's like, you know, 686 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: like that's a painting, Like, no, this is a forge. 687 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: There's somebody who's really good in faking heisman's. It's possible. 688 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: Oh boy, all right, did you know that there is 689 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: a top five draft pick who's not going to play 690 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: in a bowl game and nobody cares. Remember when we 691 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: used to care. It was five years ago, six years 692 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: ago this week, I think Christian McCaffrey said he wasn't 693 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: going to play in with the Sun Bowl. Leonard Fournette 694 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: then did it. He wasn't gonna play. Oh my god, 695 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: you can't. You can't leave your teammates all those things, 696 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: like they did everything they could do for you, and 697 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 1: you're gonna play in a meaningless bowl game and he's 698 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: going into the NFL. Nick Bosa. Nick Moosa wasn't one 699 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: of those Hey, I'm gonna sit out a bowl game. 700 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit out the season. Jamar Chase Lsu I'm 701 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: gonna sit out the season. Michael Parsons, I'm gonna sit 702 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: out the season, Cavon Cavon Thibadeau. I guess he's not 703 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,439 Speaker 1: gonna play. He's gonna be a top five draft pick. 704 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: It appears the Oregon Defensive Star. But it wasn't that 705 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: long ago that we certainly cared if you were going 706 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: to play in a meaningless bowl game. What if one 707 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: day a star player says, all play in that bowl game, 708 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 1: I'd like a car appearance fee. That sound far fetched, 709 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: and maybe it does, but it shouldn't be. What if 710 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett, Kenny Pickett's gonna be a first round draft pick, 711 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: they won the ACC, gonna play in the Peach Bowl 712 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: versus Michigan State. What if he says, all play, but 713 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: I'd like fifty thousand dollars. I'm watching that game because 714 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 1: of Kenny Pickett. If Kenny Pickett is not playing, probably 715 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,919 Speaker 1: not that interested. It's legal to ask that now, name 716 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: image and likeness. But are we going to get to 717 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: the point where a player goes, hey, I'm not going 718 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: to play unless you pay. And I don't think it's 719 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: far fetched? Yeah, time is that worth the public relations 720 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: nightmare for that player when that's going to ultimately get out? 721 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a nightmare. Is it worth whatever 722 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: money they're asking for that basically holding the team and 723 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: the network costage to a certain extent that I'm not 724 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: playing in that game, And then how does that look 725 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: for that person going forward? Or is the attitude, hey, 726 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: good for you, go for yours. They've been all making 727 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: millions of dollars to coaches and networks time coaches get 728 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 1: bonuses being in bowl games. Would a coach ever say 729 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna only coach this game or I'm not going 730 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: to coach Week twelve unless they get this amount, I'm 731 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: gonna renegotiate them. They're already making millions. I guess they 732 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: don't care. But they get bonuses for playing and you know, 733 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: coaching in a bowl game. And who has to know? 734 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: What if Kenny Pickett's representatives say to the Peach Bowl, 735 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: you know, fifty thou and dollars, then he's playing, then 736 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: nobody even knows about that. And I'm not I'm just 737 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: putting Kenny Pickett's name out there because he's one of 738 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: the Heisman finalists here. Yes, mcle I read that the 739 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 1: Ohio State has a lot of draft eligible offensive players 740 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: and they play Utah in the Rose Bowl. Is that 741 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: big enough the tradition of the Rose Bowl, like Chrystal 742 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: Lava and Garret Wilson their receivers to keep him play. 743 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: He's traditionally a high stake guys don't play in the Bowl, 744 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: I would hope, but I don't know that anymore where 745 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 1: it used to be, like we grew up and it's 746 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 1: the granddaddy of them all. Like the Rose Bowl means something. 747 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if it means anything to a nineteen 748 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 1: or twenty year old, not like it did for me. 749 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: So they may go who cares, Like, do I want 750 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: to play in the Rose Bowl? They may not? Yeah. Pull. 751 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 1: As of right now, Kenny Pickett a pit has made 752 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: no statement I'm playing in the Peach Bowl. The local 753 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: paper actually ran a story by columns saying he should 754 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: not play. He's given everything to us. But they also 755 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: added in if there was a twelve or sixteen game playoff, 756 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 1: he would be playing in peach ball because every is 757 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 1: something to play for. Yeah, yeah, yeah, tod. It just 758 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: seems like to me, I don't know if it's apples 759 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,240 Speaker 1: and oranges, but I'll say it anyway. It's a difference 760 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 1: between you know, I'm not going to play because I 761 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: want to concentrate on the draft and I don't want 762 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 1: to get hurt, and it could affect my drafts out 763 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 1: to how much mone I'm gonna make versus here's my 764 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: price for playing in this Bowl game. Just I don't know. 765 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: I gotta seems it hasn't happened yet, Todd. But the 766 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: prophet you're already happening. You're already overreacting. But I think 767 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: it could very well happen, even if it's behind closed doors. 768 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: But that's just if, if that's if that ever happens. No, 769 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,240 Speaker 1: you're on record is yeah, thank you, Todd. You're welcome. 770 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 1: It's been an exhausting show. I got two I got 771 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: one more hour to go. Yeah, you're not gonna like 772 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 1: the poll results. But on who's to blame? Who's to blame? Okay, 773 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: just go ahead give it to me. You and Todd 774 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: are tied for the first most to blame. Wow, Mark 775 00:42:55,120 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: Emmerts third, Mario's fourth. Okay, it starts with me, like 776 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: that's the new trend with coaches. It starts with me, 777 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: but it ends with Todd. Just love that president. Just like, right, Wow, 778 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: you got to blame Mark Emritt no matter what happens. 779 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: Two hours in the books. One more to go, Kirk Herbstreet, Herbie, 780 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 1: you will join us coming up eight seven seven three 781 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: d P show Email under step and Dan Patrick dot 782 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: com Twitter handle it TP show Second Morning to our 783 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: radio and TV partners. 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