WEBVTT - A Mega-Con Man for the Ages: Joseph "Yellow Kid" Weil

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous crime is a production of My Heart Radio's Elizabeth Doutton.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing much. Oh, you know, it's ridiculous. I've been waiting

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<v Speaker 1>to see you because, Okay, I saw this and I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to read it to you. The hashtag Rivvyan

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<v Speaker 1>stories hashtag Rivyan This was a tweet and I quote.

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<v Speaker 1>I performed what is likely the world's first rivan power

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<v Speaker 1>to vasectomy today. The power and clinic went out. Patient

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to reschedule because he already had time off.

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<v Speaker 1>Electrocuterie was normal, procedure went great. So somebody out there

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<v Speaker 1>was like they signed them for their vasectomy. Docs like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, man, I got problem. No power in the shop.

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<v Speaker 1>Patients like I saw, you got a nice new rivan

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<v Speaker 1>out front. You can you run a little drop cord

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<v Speaker 1>to that. Maybe we can cop this thing on now.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently I didn't know this. You only need to power

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of things to do of a sector. So

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<v Speaker 1>you need to run the extension cord from the truck's

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<v Speaker 1>outlet of the bed to the air and n high

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<v Speaker 1>frequency desiccator that prevents blood loss during the operation. That

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<v Speaker 1>it and then also he needed a fan in the

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<v Speaker 1>patient room. Because it was hot because there was no power,

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<v Speaker 1>so the fan and the desiccation machine. The rest of

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<v Speaker 1>was just scalpel and knife and like clamp, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. So the total success, the doctor said,

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<v Speaker 1>the procedure itself went great. It just went as normal

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<v Speaker 1>as one could go the modern world. Keep making that face,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like the I'm like the spinning wheel on the

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<v Speaker 1>back or like he just kept making the same face

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<v Speaker 1>already talking. You're like, there's just so that's that's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>That's done world. I love it. It's like, okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what if, like if there's a hurricane and we're

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<v Speaker 1>without powerful, don't worry. I can still Yeah, we can

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<v Speaker 1>get this done. We got a rivian a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>got a vasectomy and it came back to work and

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<v Speaker 1>he tried to like work, and then it just says

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<v Speaker 1>his stuff swelled up so bad that he passed out.

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<v Speaker 1>We had no extended back to the I'm sorry, but

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<v Speaker 1>I Am not going to feel bad for him because

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff that women work through didn't compare. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean a lot of times women will will have

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<v Speaker 1>procedures and the doctor, oh, you know, you can go

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<v Speaker 1>back to work after an hour, and I'm always thinking like,

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<v Speaker 1>men couldn't. Yeah, they wouldn't even tell men they could

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<v Speaker 1>do that. You're gonna probably need to stay here tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that he rubbed in his you got a

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<v Speaker 1>rivan outside. Things were like, ridiculous, that's super coolgrivan. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that is cool and ridiculous, And I'm still processing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to know what else is ridiculous? Ridiculous

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<v Speaker 1>being an incredible con man with no regrets, who gets

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<v Speaker 1>away with millions over his career and runs with free

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<v Speaker 1>thinkers of his time and even uses Hitler as a

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<v Speaker 1>pawn in one of his scams. God, we're just short, circunach.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm over here. I'm making the phase now. M This

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<v Speaker 1>is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers,

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<v Speaker 1>heists and cons. It's always murder free and one ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a MegaCon for you today. He's got like

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of Edgar La Plant, some Arno Funka,

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<v Speaker 1>some Margaret Lydia Burton, some Bruno Schulz by' ball Baron,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a little Billy Minor. The people. He is a

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<v Speaker 1>milange of ridiculous criminality. His name is Joseph Vile, Joseph

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<v Speaker 1>wild w e e Lay, but he was known to

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<v Speaker 1>all is yellow Kid, while he's a real con man's

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<v Speaker 1>con man, dude. That's like the straight up club games

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<v Speaker 1>he had. He wrote his autobiography Yellow Kid while but

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<v Speaker 1>they later repackaged it and called it con Man a

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<v Speaker 1>Master Swindlers Story. Okay, right, thanks barn. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>the movie The Sting? Yeah, yeah, I love it supposedly

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<v Speaker 1>based on him? Sure, um, wrong movie now, okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>that was a brain fart. Yeah, we're it's we have

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<v Speaker 1>we have a lot to process right now. Yeah. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of his unverified cons was swindling two million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars out of Mussolini. Um, Marissa the researcher and I

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<v Speaker 1>we looked all over creation for more information on that,

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<v Speaker 1>but we came up drying. Okay, that's a thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So he pulled off this incredible number of cons in

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<v Speaker 1>his life, absolutely mind boggling. It's the spinning wheel on

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<v Speaker 1>the mac like I just can't get my head. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give you like my top ones. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>highlight reel the legend of his crime, exactly, the essence,

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<v Speaker 1>the haiku of it. Um, little backstory. First born in

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago in eighteen seventy seven. When he was seventeen, he

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<v Speaker 1>left school to work as a quote collector for the Shark,

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<v Speaker 1>like a beach comber, Yeah, like a like No, for

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<v Speaker 1>just a legitimate business. Yeah. The salary, though, was small.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted something better. But in his collection job, he

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<v Speaker 1>saw that everyone around him, the other collectors, the cashiers,

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<v Speaker 1>the bookkeepers, they kind of skimmed a little off the top,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, everybody. So he used that to his advantage,

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<v Speaker 1>though he basically blackmailed his coworkers, who paid for his silence. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I see you. I'm going to pamp your crime. He

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<v Speaker 1>later said, quote. I was of a very fragile constitution,

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<v Speaker 1>unfit for the heavier sort of manual labor. I knew

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<v Speaker 1>I could not toil like other men. How was I

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<v Speaker 1>to live? My power lay in words? In words, I

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<v Speaker 1>became a commander. Moreover, I could not lead a tame

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<v Speaker 1>life of monotony. I needed excitement, variety, danger, intellectual stimulus.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a psychologist. My domain was the human mind,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Henry James. Right, So he gives his He

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<v Speaker 1>gets a job with a guy named Doc Merriweather, who

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<v Speaker 1>went around selling a tape worm cure that he called

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<v Speaker 1>Merryweather's a lickxer like this guy already. Yeah, And it

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<v Speaker 1>was just like the you know, herbal tincture or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>little booze in it. At the time, everyone thought they

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<v Speaker 1>had a tapeworm. I know they a lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>did tape worms to be like, I'm sad. They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a tape uh. And they had all these

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<v Speaker 1>other weird things that they do where a currently they

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<v Speaker 1>treat the people, and it was unclear if they'd have

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<v Speaker 1>them like do their business in a bucket or something,

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<v Speaker 1>but then they had. They would peel a potato, one

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<v Speaker 1>long potato peel and drop it in and be like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>your tapeworm went for that, the potato. The potato peel

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<v Speaker 1>tape about the old fashioned medicine. You got ghost your blood.

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<v Speaker 1>You might do cocaine about it pretty much pretty much,

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<v Speaker 1>you got a potato peel in you so spring while

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I'm out of hair, yellow kid can't do

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<v Speaker 1>it anymore. He becomes a traveling magazine salesman. Sure he

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<v Speaker 1>gets married. He marries a woman named Jesse. She when

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<v Speaker 1>should they marry? She doesn't know. He's a con man

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<v Speaker 1>and later when she finds out, she's always begging him

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of the biz um. They had a

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<v Speaker 1>daughter together, Josephine. So three, he is hanging out in

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<v Speaker 1>this saloon that's owned by a Chicago alderman and boss

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<v Speaker 1>named John Coughlin. I don't know, no. Uh. He said

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<v Speaker 1>that that guy gave him the name the Yellow Kid

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<v Speaker 1>because he used to read a popular comic strip at

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<v Speaker 1>the time called Hogan's Alley and the Yellow Kid. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's what he says. He was named after a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times in the news they'll they'll say that it

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<v Speaker 1>was because he always wore yellow gloves. But like then

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<v Speaker 1>they would also point out in all these news stories

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<v Speaker 1>through like time, they're like, you know, they searched his

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<v Speaker 1>house and they didn't turn up any yellow gloves, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, because he doesn't wear and detail totally.

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<v Speaker 1>So he worked as a door to door salesman, conned

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<v Speaker 1>people in that career. He had a ton of these

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<v Speaker 1>horse racing scams, like he actually went and bought horses.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that kind like the horse trading scam. Well, he

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<v Speaker 1>said he was going to like throw a race and

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<v Speaker 1>that then he wouldn't And then that you can't come

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<v Speaker 1>after him because it's you know, you're already in an

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<v Speaker 1>illegal agreement already. So he would tell these dudes that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm fixing it. No, I'm not fixing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever um dares him to go to the cops. He

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<v Speaker 1>gets away with that quite a bit. In he bought

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<v Speaker 1>a bank with his friends. You know, that's the move, um,

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<v Speaker 1>real crime stuff. He drew up fake lines of credits,

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<v Speaker 1>like his friend is the president, he's the vice president.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they had all the regular employees who are

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<v Speaker 1>already there with a bank. If you can get a loan,

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<v Speaker 1>you can make nine fake dollars off of one real dollar.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's what they did. They dropped fake lines of credit.

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<v Speaker 1>He and the VP and like another guy, and they

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<v Speaker 1>go to Europe and they buy a bunch of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>all these really these luxury goods, and then they also

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<v Speaker 1>got cash advances and stuff. I think they returned some

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<v Speaker 1>of the luxury anyway, they come home, they have like

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of thousands of dollars off of this. So then

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<v Speaker 1>the European banks they you know, they're like waiting. They

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<v Speaker 1>try to collect on it. And the you know, yellow

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<v Speaker 1>kid and his friends like Oh, you know what, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>we had this cashier here and he drew up all

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<v Speaker 1>these fake lines and he just ran off to Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing we can do. And the guy that they

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<v Speaker 1>had signed them was a cashier and they sent him

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<v Speaker 1>to live in Mexico and they paid him. So it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not lying. He's in Mexico. Yeah, so he's also yellow.

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<v Speaker 1>Kids like this super sharp dresser, and the press loved

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<v Speaker 1>talking about his court appearances, in one article that said Mr.

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<v Speaker 1>While wore blue over a white shirt studded with gold,

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<v Speaker 1>a diamond blazer in his cravat, an overcoat of Killarney green,

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<v Speaker 1>a green velour hat of gay and rakish tilt, and

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<v Speaker 1>a spank and pair of tan shoes with spats. I hope. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was just outfit. He's deck, dude. The drip is clean.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you about my first favorite, your favorite

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah closed your eyes as a closed girl. I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to picture it. Alright. You're in Chicago in n

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<v Speaker 1>You're a successful businessman. You're sitting in the lobby of

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<v Speaker 1>the Metropol Hotel. You're reading the paper while you wait

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<v Speaker 1>for a colleague to join you. But you're actually eavesdropping

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<v Speaker 1>on all the people around you. Super fun. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>natly dressed gentleman sitting a few over stuffed chairs over

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<v Speaker 1>and then a man in a blue suit approaches him. Hello, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing now? The snappy dresser sitting near

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<v Speaker 1>you replies, at the moment, I'm free. Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>something in mind? Yes? How'd you like to make a

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<v Speaker 1>trip to Baltimore? You know me, Sam, I always like

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<v Speaker 1>to travel. What's the deal? Now? This sounds interesting? Zaron,

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<v Speaker 1>You're hooked. You lean forward. You can make your own deal.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you the layout and you can work it

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<v Speaker 1>any way that you like. So come over to the

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<v Speaker 1>office with me and I'll tell you all about it too,

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<v Speaker 1>mad And they walk off out through the grand entrance

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<v Speaker 1>of the hotel. You just witnessed the birth of an

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly ridiculous con Oh. I love being there at the start.

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<v Speaker 1>So Joe, the sharp dressed man, that's the yellow kid, Sam.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy in the blue suit. His name is Sam Banks.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a really successful businessman based in Chicago. He

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<v Speaker 1>had just opened up a Boston office. What does Sam do? No,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a fortune teller, so he caters to stockbrokers, but

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<v Speaker 1>also the uber wealthy. Yeah, and he he just like

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<v Speaker 1>studied stocks in depth. He knew the market better than anybody. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but they knew him as like a magical fortune teller,

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<v Speaker 1>not like some staid advisor guy. He wore a turban

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<v Speaker 1>in his in his well. The client would write a

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<v Speaker 1>question on a piece of paper. Sam would lie back

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<v Speaker 1>on a couch and he'd put the paper on his

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<v Speaker 1>forehead and he would tell the client, Okay, guys going

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<v Speaker 1>into a trance, be ready, and like so he'd have

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<v Speaker 1>the paper. He wouldn't look at the paper. He put

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<v Speaker 1>the paper on his forehead, go into a trance. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Ed mcman would laugh, right and Ed mcmann's hiding there.

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<v Speaker 1>Paper that he puts on his forehead isn't the one

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<v Speaker 1>the client gave him though, because like the client hands

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<v Speaker 1>him the paper and he would do all these mystical

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<v Speaker 1>hand gestures of the yeah, and then he like uses

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<v Speaker 1>sleight of hand to slip the actual question behind some

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<v Speaker 1>drapes to an assistant who's waiting there, and then he'd

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<v Speaker 1>say some stuff in Jewish, you know, uh yeah, bring

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<v Speaker 1>king kom um. The turban that he was wearing had

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<v Speaker 1>a telephone headset like it was hiding it. So he

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<v Speaker 1>had had telephone headset over his ears, the turban covering that.

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<v Speaker 1>A wire from the headset went down his back to

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<v Speaker 1>a metal connection in his shoes, and then he had

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<v Speaker 1>the metal connection in the couch. So when he lies

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<v Speaker 1>back and he puts his feet to the end of

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<v Speaker 1>it makes a circuit. Yeah. So um. He then that

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<v Speaker 1>at the couch had a line that went behind this

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<v Speaker 1>curtain to these assistant. That's really smart, so he's not connected.

0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:03.959
<v Speaker 1>He can get up and move around. Yeah, so yeah,

0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:07.440
<v Speaker 1>there's he's basically wireless at them. So he lays down.

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<v Speaker 1>The assistant would read the question over the telephone line.

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<v Speaker 1>Sam would then sit up, take the paper off of

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<v Speaker 1>his forehead and without looking at it, lighted on fire

0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.600
<v Speaker 1>off like on a candle that was on a table,

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<v Speaker 1>and then answer the question. So you're the client, you

0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:27.080
<v Speaker 1>can write this down totally and then you know the client.

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<v Speaker 1>The mark would be just so this is amazing, pay

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<v Speaker 1>up and walk out. A lot of rich ladies would

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<v Speaker 1>come in and they'd have questions about romance and that

0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:38.240
<v Speaker 1>sort of stuff. He just gave them like common sense

0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:41.800
<v Speaker 1>answers and they're like, oh my god, you're right, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they were. So a week before in the interaction

0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:51.520
<v Speaker 1>that you saw a yellow kid running into Sam at

0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:55.240
<v Speaker 1>the Metropole. Yeah, Sam had done a session in Boston

0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.920
<v Speaker 1>with this rich woman named Dora Albright. They met up

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<v Speaker 1>in Boston. Dora, Yeah, and so he wants to tell

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<v Speaker 1>yellow kid all about what happened. Dora is a spinster

0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:10.000
<v Speaker 1>and she was visiting Boston from Baltimore to see about

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<v Speaker 1>some investments. Based on other elements of casual conversations, Sam

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<v Speaker 1>he basically did a cold reading and was able to

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<v Speaker 1>say a lot of stuff about Dora that she hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>shared yet. Like he sees that you know, she's she's

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how she's coming into town. She's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like running the show. He's like, ooh, you're the you're

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<v Speaker 1>the oldest of your siblings. Oh yeah, like you know

0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:34.400
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. Dora is sold. So she writes

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<v Speaker 1>her question on the piece of paper and it says,

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<v Speaker 1>my sisters and I have two hundred thousand dollars in cash.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we put it into a savings bank or should

0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:45.920
<v Speaker 1>we seek an investment? Like if this were a movie

0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.600
<v Speaker 1>and their money soon parted, I would think that she

0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:50.920
<v Speaker 1>was the one running the com because who asked that

0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I got two grand? What do I do? Got this

0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:58.400
<v Speaker 1>pocket and it's got a lighting, Lenny asked the fortune teller.

0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:02.960
<v Speaker 1>So Sam as the routine the trance, puts the paper

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah, and then he responds, he said, I

0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.760
<v Speaker 1>see a man coming into your life. He has a beard,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't tell you how he's going to come

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<v Speaker 1>into your life or when it's going to happen. And

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<v Speaker 1>then quote he'd him, the bearded one holds the key

0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.960
<v Speaker 1>to your fortune. That is all. So the next man

0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:25.400
<v Speaker 1>with the beard comes up, well, he has someone in

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<v Speaker 1>his head. Dora gets super emotional over this. She thanks him,

0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.920
<v Speaker 1>pays her hefty feet goes on her way. Sam then,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, sees the yellow Kid, tells the story and says, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to know the details of whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>come up with. I've given you all the material you need.

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<v Speaker 1>Just give me a cut or whatever you get. Oh,

0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:50.000
<v Speaker 1>he trusts the yellow kid. He's like, here, I'm just

0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna give you the give you the give you the facts.

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<v Speaker 1>You run with him. I don't, okay, do you think

0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Sam is in on it? Where he's like he knows

0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:58.000
<v Speaker 1>this lady's in Mark and it's a hot markets. I

0:16:58.080 --> 0:16:59.600
<v Speaker 1>just want my cut. Or is he thinking like we're

0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:01.920
<v Speaker 1>doing actual business for this lady. Oh no, no, no,

0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:06.840
<v Speaker 1>he knows she's a Mark. He's like, I don't want

0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:08.320
<v Speaker 1>to know what you're going to do with this or

0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:13.280
<v Speaker 1>just give exactly. So Yellow Kids like, yeah, let's do this.

0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I gotta go to Texas. And Sam's like, wait, we'll wait.

0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Now she lives in Baltimore. But you know, he says, quote, yes,

0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I know, but Texas fascinates me right now, there's something

0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:27.520
<v Speaker 1>there I want to which Sam replies, well, do it

0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:30.720
<v Speaker 1>your own way, Joe, so, which of course he did.

0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:33.600
<v Speaker 1>When we come back, I'm going to tell you about Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bearded One and Old Dora. All right, Zaron, Oh hey,

0:17:57.640 --> 0:17:59.960
<v Speaker 1>what's up? Elizabeth? Hey? How you doing? I'm doing proved

0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Robert too? Not bad, not bad. When we left off,

0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:05.399
<v Speaker 1>we were just talking about do you remember we were

0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:11.240
<v Speaker 1>talking about some stuff. Yeah, it's nineteen sixteen. Yellow Kid.

0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:14.600
<v Speaker 1>He has a lead from his friend Sam that the

0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:18.359
<v Speaker 1>Sam the fortune Teller, that there's a spinster in Baltimore

0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:22.440
<v Speaker 1>who's got an extra two hundred thousand dollars cash Sam,

0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:24.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, lays it all out for him. Yellow Kids like,

0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:28.560
<v Speaker 1>guess what, perfect I'm going to Texas, by the way,

0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:30.920
<v Speaker 1>two thousand dollars and is like five and a half

0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:35.240
<v Speaker 1>million today. I'm wondering. Yeah. Yeah, So Yellow Kid goes

0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:39.720
<v Speaker 1>to Texas. He uses the name Ari Ruel. That's one

0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:43.399
<v Speaker 1>of his favorite aliases, Henry Royal. Yeah, I guess, well

0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:46.800
<v Speaker 1>not royal, but like U R E U E L

0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:51.439
<v Speaker 1>L I suppose um. He he goes there and he

0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:54.320
<v Speaker 1>buys fifteen hundred acres of land at a dollar and

0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:58.080
<v Speaker 1>acre between Standard Oil and the Texas Company which is

0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:02.560
<v Speaker 1>now Texaco. So he buys this big plot. He then

0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:06.520
<v Speaker 1>drives to Baltimore. He wrote, quote, my car was a

0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Fiat imported and custom built. It was expensive, powerful, and luxurious.

0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.840
<v Speaker 1>So he's just hammers down from Texas to Baltimore. It

0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:20.080
<v Speaker 1>was a Saturday evening when he rolls into town. He

0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:23.840
<v Speaker 1>purposefully stalled his car in front of Dora's place and

0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:28.800
<v Speaker 1>then goes and asks to use the phone. You know, sorry,

0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, he always had a beard. Sorry, he always

0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:34.120
<v Speaker 1>had a beard. Yeah, from like the jump. So that's

0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:37.119
<v Speaker 1>why when you know she's telling this line and Sam

0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:39.119
<v Speaker 1>the fortune teller's hearing it in his head. He's like,

0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:41.400
<v Speaker 1>all right, I'm gonna say beard because Yellow Kid's gonna

0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:44.919
<v Speaker 1>be all over this one. So he knows there's no

0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:46.960
<v Speaker 1>way he's going to get a mechanic out there until

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<v Speaker 1>Monday morning because it's Saturday night. So he knocks door,

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<v Speaker 1>opens the door, she sees a man with a beard.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, hello, I am alre re well. Dora lives

0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:02.520
<v Speaker 1>with her sisters. She's like, sees this man, sees the beard.

0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:04.160
<v Speaker 1>It was like, do you want to stay the weekend?

0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:08.439
<v Speaker 1>She hasn't run into any other bearded men, not like

0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:12.520
<v Speaker 1>introducing themselves in this right didn't capture her. The butler

0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:16.480
<v Speaker 1>carries Yellow kids bags into the house and Dora sees

0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:19.200
<v Speaker 1>that his bags were covered in labels from all over Europe.

0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:22.439
<v Speaker 1>And so he goes into the guest room to freshen up.

0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:24.919
<v Speaker 1>He gets his beard looking all good. He greases it

0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:27.800
<v Speaker 1>up nice, and then they're all hanging up the moths

0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:31.160
<v Speaker 1>and bugs from the road. Well, I guess he had

0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:34.959
<v Speaker 1>it like he like parted it in the middle. Yeah,

0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:38.080
<v Speaker 1>you know style, you could do the scott and with

0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:42.200
<v Speaker 1>the beads that would be dope. Yeah. So they're hanging

0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:45.040
<v Speaker 1>out in the parlor. Yellow kid like he sees like

0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:50.960
<v Speaker 1>these sisters are a little sheltered, surprised. Um. They asked

0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:54.160
<v Speaker 1>him what he did, and he's just super casual. He's like, well,

0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I represent all these European clients and um, a lot

0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:00.439
<v Speaker 1>of them have money in Texas and I want to

0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:03.359
<v Speaker 1>sell it off because they're really distracted. There's war coming

0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:06.280
<v Speaker 1>to Europe, so they kind of want to just liquidate

0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:08.960
<v Speaker 1>and get out of here. Um. They asked him about, Oh,

0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:10.800
<v Speaker 1>so you've been in Europe. He's like, yeah, I traveled

0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:14.840
<v Speaker 1>all over. He tells them tales of the continent. He's like,

0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:18.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, um, wars on the horizon. They got to liquidate.

0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I've been able to sell everything except for you know,

0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I've just exhausted. I have fifteen hundred acres left. I

0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:30.160
<v Speaker 1>got to move these fifteen hundred acres and then I'm done,

0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:34.919
<v Speaker 1>you know with this whole project. Um. They're interested, right, like,

0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:38.320
<v Speaker 1>oh acres, you say, Um, is there a way that

0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:40.159
<v Speaker 1>we can get in illness? Like, if you need to

0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:44.040
<v Speaker 1>do you need to sell this off, maybe we could help.

0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:46.800
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, well, you know, I've only been working

0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:49.520
<v Speaker 1>with investment firms. I hadn't even thought about selling the

0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:54.399
<v Speaker 1>private investors. Well, you know why not, that would probably work.

0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:57.119
<v Speaker 1>So he goes back to the guest room and he

0:21:57.240 --> 0:22:00.400
<v Speaker 1>returns with these fake maps that he'd made, like he

0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:05.080
<v Speaker 1>drew up these maps that had like the where the

0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:07.320
<v Speaker 1>area was and the real maps. But then he had

0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:10.520
<v Speaker 1>like the mother pool, which was just like his guests

0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:12.879
<v Speaker 1>on maybe there's oil. They're like it just he just

0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:18.879
<v Speaker 1>made it all up. So he, um, he agrees to

0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:20.399
<v Speaker 1>sell it to them. I'm going to give you a

0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:24.760
<v Speaker 1>huge bargain, a hundred and twenty dollars an acre. So

0:22:24.880 --> 0:22:27.760
<v Speaker 1>he bought it at a dollar so you know, he

0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:30.080
<v Speaker 1>left him a little that has that that's a hundred

0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:35.439
<v Speaker 1>and eighty thousand exactly. This is that they had this

0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:39.760
<v Speaker 1>nice dinner and a lot of wine to celebrate this deal. Um,

0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:41.199
<v Speaker 1>it is nice to have a good meal when you're

0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:44.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna get screwed. Like he has him write up a contract.

0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:46.800
<v Speaker 1>He's like, I really, I want I want you to

0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:50.040
<v Speaker 1>go and take this, you know, um to get to

0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:52.359
<v Speaker 1>file it with the Assessor of Power. They're going to

0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:54.760
<v Speaker 1>do it, just because I want to make sure we

0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:59.480
<v Speaker 1>lock this in, like as soon as possible basically, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they spend the rest of the weekend together. They

0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:05.119
<v Speaker 1>go to church on Sunday. Yeah, he's just playing it up.

0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Mechanic comes on Monday, pops it open. It's like, oh

0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:14.120
<v Speaker 1>this ignition wires plug it back in. So fixes the car.

0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:17.280
<v Speaker 1>He has the deed, He gets there a hundred and

0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:20.760
<v Speaker 1>eighty thousand dollars, goes on his way. He wrote later quote,

0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:23.680
<v Speaker 1>there was nothing the all Bright sisters could have done

0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:26.479
<v Speaker 1>to me, even if they wanted to. For all I know,

0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:29.359
<v Speaker 1>there really was oil on the land I'd sold them.

0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:31.600
<v Speaker 1>At any rate, the sale was good, and the land

0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:35.040
<v Speaker 1>actually existed. Whether they later tried to develop it for oil,

0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I never heard anymore about them. Exists existed,

0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:43.480
<v Speaker 1>not everything I've sold so hard to find out what

0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:47.720
<v Speaker 1>happened to Dora Albright. I've like searched and searched what happened.

0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:51.879
<v Speaker 1>Are about to look for a new place, But they

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:57.040
<v Speaker 1>own acres in Texas and enjoy it. Maybe. Um, So

0:23:57.280 --> 0:23:59.920
<v Speaker 1>of course he goes and gives forty five dollars to say,

0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:04.240
<v Speaker 1>um the fortune teller as thanks, And that's like almost

0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:07.480
<v Speaker 1>one point to five million dollars today. As just a

0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:13.679
<v Speaker 1>finder's incredible. So yellow Man, Yellow Man, Yellow Man, the

0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:19.080
<v Speaker 1>reggae artist, father of Yellow Kids, Yellow Kid, he worked

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:22.400
<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of different conmen and um, I remember

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:27.560
<v Speaker 1>when he was a dj A. It was amazing Yellow

0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:32.119
<v Speaker 1>So you have no idea how hard it was for me,

0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:35.440
<v Speaker 1>like getting Yellow Man songs in my head as I

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:40.399
<v Speaker 1>was researching. So. Um, he had all these conman pals.

0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 1>One of them Sam the Fortune Teller. Another one was

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:47.560
<v Speaker 1>a guy named Fred buck Minster, and Fred Buckminster he

0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 1>was nicknamed the Deacon because his face looks so honest,

0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:55.040
<v Speaker 1>like of course, Um, yellow Kid would go to great

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:58.960
<v Speaker 1>lengths to fleece a victim. Like he would do very complicated,

0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:02.720
<v Speaker 1>drawn out things and then sometimes inspiration would just strike

0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 1>him and that's where he would come up with a scam.

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:06.920
<v Speaker 1>But he also he was the master of the twist.

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:10.480
<v Speaker 1>We'll get to that. He did the twist. He taught

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 1>it to Chubby Checker. Yes, So one time, Yellow Kid

0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:18.000
<v Speaker 1>he's like reading through the paper and he sees an

0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>ad to sub let this like really nice luxury apartment

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:25.760
<v Speaker 1>for nine months in Chicago, and so he's like, let's

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:28.280
<v Speaker 1>rent it and just we'll have access to that space.

0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:31.320
<v Speaker 1>We can find a use for this. Yeah, this looks

0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 1>like a good opportunity. So he and his pals, including

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:38.120
<v Speaker 1>the Deacon Buckminster, they set up a fake private gambling

0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:41.640
<v Speaker 1>club there. So they didn't open a real private gambling club.

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:45.280
<v Speaker 1>It was a fake. They paid actors to hang out

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:49.680
<v Speaker 1>and pretend the gamble. Yeah, they paid him twenty five

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 1>dollars a pop. They had drinks, they had gaming tables.

0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:56.199
<v Speaker 1>They were like fake stacks of money. It's amazing. So

0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:59.280
<v Speaker 1>then he Yellow Kid, he invites an acquaintance of his

0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:05.199
<v Speaker 1>named Corvill Hotchkiss to you know, so hotch Kiss he

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>knew Yellow Kid as Joe Warrington. So his pal Joe

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Warrington slash Yellow Kid, he invites him. Yellow Kids says, look,

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.200
<v Speaker 1>I have an uncle who works at this club as

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:21.880
<v Speaker 1>a Pharaoh Bank dealer. Do you know what Pharaoh bank game? Yeah,

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 1>it's uh yeah, Pharaoh Bank is a Pharaoh French card game,

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:27.919
<v Speaker 1>kind of like poker but totally not big on the

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Old West. Yeah. I'm really terrible at understanding or explaining

0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:35.000
<v Speaker 1>card games, but basically it goes like this. There's a

0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:38.480
<v Speaker 1>banker like the dealer in essence, and then the cards

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:42.440
<v Speaker 1>are shuffled and then they play and did someone win

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:45.720
<v Speaker 1>and someone lose? Yes, those are the rules games. It's

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:48.800
<v Speaker 1>super fun. Thank you for sharing. You're welcome. So um

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:52.600
<v Speaker 1>the uncle who in reality another con Man actor. He

0:26:52.800 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 1>had allegedly been screwed over for a promotion. So he's

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:59.159
<v Speaker 1>looking to throw a game and screw over the club

0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:02.400
<v Speaker 1>and he is like willing to split the profits with

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:06.639
<v Speaker 1>a willing patron. So Yellow Kid says to hot Kiss, like,

0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:09.160
<v Speaker 1>can you help, can you help my uncle screw over

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 1>this club? Was like, yeah, let's do it. And so

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 1>this quote unquote uncle, he taught hot Kiss the game

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:20.400
<v Speaker 1>of Farroh or Pharaoh. I say farrow because I'm looking

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 1>at it like it's the Pharaoh because it looks like

0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:28.439
<v Speaker 1>the alternate spellings are Pharaoh, like Egyptian pharaoh. Yeah, but

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:32.159
<v Speaker 1>it's f a R. So he's like, I'm going to

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:34.040
<v Speaker 1>teach you the game. He went a little more in

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 1>depth than my explanation. I imagine there's a couple of

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 1>degrees made like one or two other items. Um, and

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 1>then he's like, I'll give you certain signals of what

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 1>to do. So then uh, Yellow Kid brings him to

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:49.439
<v Speaker 1>the club. Looks super official, It looks like it's popping.

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, um can do is make a look official? Right?

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Hot Kiss didn't have any money on him, but Yellow

0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Kid was like, look, just write a check for fifty

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 1>grand for the chips. It's cool. So things go according

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 1>to plan. Right During the game, hot Kiss wins three

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars and the club's overseer, though played by Buckminster,

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:17.120
<v Speaker 1>the deacon. He says he just came in from New York.

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 1>He's like, I'm not gonna let you cash in those chips.

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know you, and I don't know if this

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.880
<v Speaker 1>check is valid. I only take checks from known club members.

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 1>So Buckminster is just not budging. Yellow Kid pretends to

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 1>try and convince them all right, listen, listen, listen. If

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 1>Hot Kiss, if this guy brings in the five cash

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:42.880
<v Speaker 1>that he had on this check, if he brings it tomorrow,

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:45.960
<v Speaker 1>could he get his three hundred thousand? Then if he

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 1>just swaps stuck, can you hold his chips for him?

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Obviously the club doesn't have three d dollars to hand out,

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:56.240
<v Speaker 1>no intention of it, but they're like, okay, fine, this

0:28:56.320 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>is the twist. Then Hot Kiss doesn't have to tw thousand, right,

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Yellow Kid knows this, but he knows that Hot Kiss

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>knows someone who does. Mr McHenry. Mr McHenry was the

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 1>intended target in the first Yeah, so the whole set

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 1>up with hot Kiss was really just to get access

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 1>to mckenry. Is the weak link for mckenry. He's an

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 1>emotional soft point. Yes, so yellow Kid says, you know

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 1>to hot Kiss, well, you know, kind of off handled. Well,

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.960
<v Speaker 1>why don't you invite your friend mckenry to the club

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 1>tomorrow night and then we can get Henry. He can

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 1>help us screw over the club. He can throw a

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 1>faro game. He's a big dog. He can definitely and

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 1>then you know, he could probably also front you that

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 1>fifty grand so you can get your three hundred. You

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 1>can be a winner. Everyone everyone wins. Guys. Hot Kiss

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 1>is like, yeah, let's do this. So he he um.

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:54.280
<v Speaker 1>He goes in, Hey, McHenry, quick question, do you want

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 1>to come to a gambling club and give me fifty dollars?

0:29:57.320 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 1>And mckenry is like, all right, but here's the rest

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 1>of the details. Yeah, okay, the three Yeah, and we

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 1>can screw over this club. Yeah. So the like supposed

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 1>scorned uncle, he now has to teach McHenry about the

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 1>game the same rules that I gave and then Um

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 1>and the hand Chester's the cues right, and so that

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 1>that evening. Though there's a big difference because first, instead

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 1>of writing a check, mckenry throws down fifty cash. He's ready,

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 1>he's in now. During the Pharaoh game, the uncle slashed dealer.

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Um didn't actually let McHenry win, and in fact, he

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 1>blamed him afterwards. He's like, I was giving you all

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:45.720
<v Speaker 1>the right signals and you screwed them up. Like what

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 1>is wrong with you? Why weren't you doing I told

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 1>you over and over. He's like, it's your fault. So

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 1>they lose the fifty grand. Yellow Kid walks off with

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 1>fifty grand, so like he has all that's like a

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 1>typical that's like a solid yellow Kid one. Some of

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 1>the ones that he did were just like silly for

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 1>his own giggles, his own entertainment. So in the twenties,

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Yellow Kid was a member of a bohemian discussion group

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 1>called the Dill Pickle Club. Are you familiar the Dill

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Pickle Club? It was a speakeasy in the theater that

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 1>was in operation in Chicago from nineteen seventeen to ninety five,

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 1>and he was a member UM. It was like this

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 1>haven for free thinkers. I've never heard of this. Let

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 1>me tell you who. Some of the frequent attendees were

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Clarence Darrow, Emma Goldman, Upton Sinclair, Carl Sandberg, William Carlos Williams,

0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Kenneth rex Row, labor leaders like Bill Haywood, and like

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 1>people from all walks of life right there were social workers, artists, scientists, anarchists, prostitutes,

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 1>like religious zealots, and then con men. Of the people

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 1>in the club all knew who Yellow Kid was. Yeah, exactly.

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 1>So one time he's there and he gives this fake

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 1>demonstration for a machine that he claimed would roast a

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 1>chicken in thirty seconds, so it's obviously it's a fake machine.

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 1>He had a previously roasted chicken that was swapped for

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 1>a rawlin under the table. It was like supposed to

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 1>be this jokey thing, and he wrote quote any but

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 1>the most gullible should have realized what was going on,

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 1>So he claims though Yellow Kids said that after the

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 1>lecture to people, including a University of Chicago professor, came

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 1>up to him and wanted to invest in the company

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 1>wanted to know, like, what are your plans to patent it?

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Are we going to sell this? He thought it was

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 1>super amusing, wouldn't take their money, so it was like

0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 1>he loved just getting one over. He wasn't always because

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 1>he could have just fleeced those guys too, So he

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 1>tried a bunch of times to go straight, but he

0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 1>just couldn't do it. He tried to sell pianos for

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>a while, and that didn't pan out because like some

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>of his con man budd he's found out about his business. Yeah,

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:07.720
<v Speaker 1>and they were like, all right, look, we're going to

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 1>get into this. They kind of tried to flip it

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 1>into an illegal operation, so we gave up. He tried

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 1>selling Catholic encyclopedias for a while. Yeah. He opened a

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 1>legitimate hotel called the Martinique in Chicago, super luxury place. Um.

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 1>They sort of really nice booze during prohibition. After a while, though,

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 1>like the patrons of the hotel just kept being like

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 1>more and more swindlers and high end comment and it

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 1>was like this criminal hot spot. After only a couple

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>of months, he was in the whole first seven fifty

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars on this hotel. How well, they're just like

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>everyone's like he's just doing one scamp like it just

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:52.240
<v Speaker 1>like it started out legitimately and then it just goes

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:55.440
<v Speaker 1>like downward spiral quickly. He wants to save the hotel,

0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:57.960
<v Speaker 1>to burn it down. Well, he starts working with this

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 1>gang that had him selling stolen bonds and gold coins.

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 1>He got swept up in the bus for their initial

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 1>robbery of all that stuff. Um, and he got sentenced

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 1>to five years in Leavenworth as a result. And on

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 1>this one, it's just like he was adjacent, so adjacent

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 1>to it. He had been recogress in a bunch of times, right,

0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:19.880
<v Speaker 1>and that this one that was his third conviction. So

0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 1>the first conviction was in nineteen eleven. And a fun

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>fact about that, on his way to Juliet prison for that,

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:29.719
<v Speaker 1>he allegedly managed to convince the detective that was with

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 1>him to buy thirty thousand dollars of fake stock from

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 1>him on his way to prison, so that his second

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 1>conviction was nineteen Here's a fun fact about the second conviction.

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:44.400
<v Speaker 1>His lawyer for that case was none other than his

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Dill Pickle Club pal, Clarence Darrow. Yes, Leopold Love if

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:54.480
<v Speaker 1>you're going to get a closing remarks Clarence Darrow exactly.

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>So this time, though Yellow Kid off to leaven Worth

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:01.359
<v Speaker 1>five year stretch, Let's take break, we come back. I'll

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:05.240
<v Speaker 1>tell you about an international and audacious scam that Yellow

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Kid ran. Please Saren, welcome back. Have you been? I

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 1>love those pants? Thank you so much. I love that

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 1>you're not wearing pants. No, just sucks, just sucks. Yeah,

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:38.839
<v Speaker 1>well leg warmers. Oh that's what those are. Yeah, well

0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:43.320
<v Speaker 1>that's what I was told they were. Okay, okay, well yeah, okay.

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:48.439
<v Speaker 1>So we're talking about Yellow Kid while vile Yellow kids vile,

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:52.840
<v Speaker 1>while um in his various con man exploits um. So

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 1>he did time in leaven Worth, gets out in March

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 1>of nineteen the full stretch. Yeah, he gets out of

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 1>prison and he and Fred the Deacon Buckminster, they go

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 1>to Europe. Yeah. So on the boat right over they

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:11.320
<v Speaker 1>meet two ladies and the ladies ended up swindling them

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 1>for ten thousand dollars with the same sort of tale

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 1>that they would tell victims are like, there's an emergency,

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 1>we need money, but the money is held up and

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:23.799
<v Speaker 1>should be coming shortly. Can we give you something as collateral? Like,

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:27.959
<v Speaker 1>here's a necklace can you hold? And it looks really

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:31.360
<v Speaker 1>expensive but it's worthless. So but they're like amused by this,

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:34.359
<v Speaker 1>so like, yeah, we got scammed. It was a good one. Um.

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 1>His One of his last big admitted scams was with

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:42.759
<v Speaker 1>a wealthy American woman who owned a mine in Arizona.

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 1>So Yellow Kid, pretending to be a famous mining engineer,

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:52.279
<v Speaker 1>he said he help her with apparently, so well, yeah,

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 1>I remember back, yeah, with the mines and the gems.

0:36:57.280 --> 0:37:00.799
<v Speaker 1>So he gets Buckminster on board as his assistant, and

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>the two they go to Arizona all in this lady's dime,

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:07.319
<v Speaker 1>like an expense account. They're like yep, they go and look,

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 1>the mine is legitimate, but like it's not being used.

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 1>So they spend the rest of the time like on vacation,

0:37:12.840 --> 0:37:17.840
<v Speaker 1>just like sitting by a pool, sip and drink rocks exactly.

0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 1>So then they go back to Chicago and Yellow Kids like,

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>you know what, yeah, I will help you manage that mine.

0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:26.879
<v Speaker 1>Uh no, she wants to sell it. He's like, okay, well,

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:28.880
<v Speaker 1>you know what, you can get way more for the

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 1>land in Europe than you can't at home. So she agrees, right,

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 1>so they go back to Europe. Yellow Kid and the

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Deacon they sail to Berlin in nineteen thirty. So when

0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:48.440
<v Speaker 1>they get there, they make a formal written request to

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 1>meet with Hitler and it's denied. But they knew it.

0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:56.359
<v Speaker 1>They knew that was going. Well, why do you think

0:37:56.360 --> 0:38:00.120
<v Speaker 1>they wanted that? The letterhead exactly, that's they want at

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:04.480
<v Speaker 1>official government stationary. So then they also make an inquiry

0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:08.839
<v Speaker 1>at the German government bank, the Right Bank, um, with

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:14.279
<v Speaker 1>the purpose of attaining more more letter totally, so they

0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 1>got these two pieces of paper. Yellow Kid forges a

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 1>conversation between Hitler and the bank, expressing interest in this

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Arizona property. And then but the negotiations are delayed, like

0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:30.320
<v Speaker 1>that's what you know in his letter l Mr Hitler

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:34.319
<v Speaker 1>is frustrating. He wants Arizona. I just I love Arizona one,

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:37.719
<v Speaker 1>a little piece of property. Um. So then Yellow Kid

0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 1>and the Deacon they go back to Chicago. He shows

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 1>the woman the letters. He's like, look Hitler's in and

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:48.320
<v Speaker 1>she's like, awesome. Go back to Berlin finalize the purchase.

0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 1>But you know, there's this little thing called World War

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:53.279
<v Speaker 1>two bubbling up over there. He's like, I don't want

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 1>to go that's I don't want this. So she goes, fine,

0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm cutting off your expense account. And then he's kind

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:02.319
<v Speaker 1>of getting worried, like, wait, is she going to take

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 1>these letters and go have someone else do this? She's

0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 1>going to get She's onto me like, I don't I

0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I flew too close to the sun on this one

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:13.719
<v Speaker 1>for complete. So he goes to d C and then

0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:15.359
<v Speaker 1>he goes to New York. He's just kind of like

0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 1>moving around a lot. In New York. He goes to

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:20.360
<v Speaker 1>a party that's thrown by some con man friends of

0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 1>his UM. One of the guys there is a high

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:28.920
<v Speaker 1>ranking army officer. Now, two months later, the friends that

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 1>he's with UM they get busted for mail fraud. And

0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 1>that high ranking army officer says, oh, you know who

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 1>else I saw there? This guy Dr Alriuell. But I

0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:45.840
<v Speaker 1>think he's really Yellow kid rats him out right. But

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:48.800
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. Yellow Kid wasn't involved in the mail fraud.

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 1>He was just at the party. Yeah, he gets connected

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:55.279
<v Speaker 1>to the crime and arrested, and they arrested him at

0:39:55.480 --> 0:40:00.840
<v Speaker 1>his daughter's apartment, hiding in the closet. So here's according

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:04.719
<v Speaker 1>to the New York Times, according to that. I love

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:06.960
<v Speaker 1>this part. Here's what it said. The New York Times

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:11.239
<v Speaker 1>quote a voice through the door said While wasn't there.

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 1>The raiders obtained a pass key. A framed picture of

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:17.400
<v Speaker 1>While hung on the wall, but While was not found.

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Until the search reached the clothes closet in the apartment

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:23.759
<v Speaker 1>were found many medical books and a complete physicians kit.

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Outside was Wild's car with the physicians insignia on it.

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:31.800
<v Speaker 1>The raiders said that While had been posing as Dr R. E. Durraine.

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Letters were found indicating that under several medical aliases, he

0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:41.080
<v Speaker 1>had required many patients. While had fifteen suits with London trademarks,

0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty hats, twenty pairs of spats, and sixteen pairs of

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:48.120
<v Speaker 1>shoes in his wardrobe. However, were none of the yellow

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:52.239
<v Speaker 1>gloves which won him his sober cap. Always always the

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:54.920
<v Speaker 1>yellow gloves. But I love that, Like, No, there's no

0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 1>While here. Well his pictures on the wall, you know, Well,

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:00.799
<v Speaker 1>I just know about Dr Ari to reign like he

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 1>had in the insignia on his car. So good, Okay.

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:07.120
<v Speaker 1>So in the meantime, the woman back in Chicago, she

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 1>finds out, wait a second, his name isn't Dr M.

0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Well he's yellow kid. And so then she turns around

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:18.440
<v Speaker 1>and she reports the Hitler letters to the authorities. The

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:22.239
<v Speaker 1>prosecutors now that they've got him on this mail fraud thing,

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:26.240
<v Speaker 1>they're like, will drop that indictment on the Hitler letters

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 1>if you plead guilty to mail fraud and go to

0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:33.799
<v Speaker 1>jail for four Yeah. So he agrees, but he argues that, like,

0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:37.439
<v Speaker 1>not four years, how about one year. That's that's way fair.

0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:40.719
<v Speaker 1>Offer one year, yeah, because he's like, look, I was

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:43.399
<v Speaker 1>just at the party. You have no proof of any

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 1>crime that I've committed. So the judge is like, all right,

0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you two years, and he sends them in early.

0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:53.239
<v Speaker 1>He gets sent to prison in Atlanta. He called it,

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 1>quote perhaps the finest of all federal prisons, and with

0:41:57.200 --> 0:42:00.799
<v Speaker 1>an easy job, lots of athletic opportunit unities he got

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:04.320
<v Speaker 1>to exercise. In nineteen forty two, he returned to Chicago

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 1>for the Hitler letter case, but his it was just

0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:14.720
<v Speaker 1>a formality. Cases dropped no, so he wrote his autobiography

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 1>in eight He said that since his release from the

0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta prison, he quote resolved that I would never again

0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 1>be involved in anything that might send me to prison

0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:28.239
<v Speaker 1>and we heard that, and after that he did the

0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:32.319
<v Speaker 1>work legally getting donations for charities, and he would get

0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 1>like a commission for it, so he would be able

0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:36.760
<v Speaker 1>to use his skills. Yeah, charity the second to last

0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:41.760
<v Speaker 1>refuge for the scoundrel. Exactly nineteen fifty six, he's eighty

0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:46.240
<v Speaker 1>years old. He gets interviewed by Saul Bellow for The Reporter,

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:51.200
<v Speaker 1>and Bellow described Wild's appearance as such quote, the kid

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:54.399
<v Speaker 1>is now very frail, and it becomes him now. There

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 1>is a sort of fallen natinus about him. His shoes

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 1>are beautifully shined, though not in the best of condition.

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:03.399
<v Speaker 1>His suit is made of a bold material. It has

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 1>gone too often to the cleaner, but it is an

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 1>excellent press. His shirt must belong to the days of

0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:12.240
<v Speaker 1>his prosperity, for his neck has shrunk and the collar

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:16.320
<v Speaker 1>fits loosely. It has a green pattern of squares within squares,

0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 1>tie and pocket handkerchief for all of matching green. His

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 1>little face is clear and animated. Long practice and insincerity

0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:27.360
<v Speaker 1>gives him an advantage. It is not always easy to

0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:31.440
<v Speaker 1>know when he's being straightforward. No, every time they describe him,

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:33.479
<v Speaker 1>they mentioned how he's wearing green. I think you could

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 1>have called him the green kid while and did a

0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:38.879
<v Speaker 1>little bit more accurate. I think so, I think so, yeah,

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:43.400
<v Speaker 1>he's just you know, the green while the green while so. Uh.

0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:47.960
<v Speaker 1>That same year that he gets interviewed, he test he yeah,

0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:53.800
<v Speaker 1>hold on. So he testified at a Senate subcommittee hearing

0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:58.840
<v Speaker 1>on juvenile delinquency, and he complained about contemporary kan men

0:43:58.880 --> 0:44:01.560
<v Speaker 1>who used children to help con older people. And he

0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:03.719
<v Speaker 1>was like, in my back, in my day, we never

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 1>did that. Nineteen fifty nine, a magazine called Man's Smashing Stories. Yeah,

0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 1>they ran an article that said yellow Kid died in

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:20.760
<v Speaker 1>the Bowery in nineteen thirty four, and he's like, um, no, hello, alive,

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:24.759
<v Speaker 1>present name. He sued them in nineteen sixty two for

0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 1>a hundred thousand dollars for libel and one. And then

0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:32.960
<v Speaker 1>he also sued Playboy for using content from his book

0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 1>without permission, and he won that one as well. He

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 1>turned ninety in nineteen sixty six, and he told reporters, quote,

0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:44.600
<v Speaker 1>each of my victims had larceny in his heart. I

0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 1>never fleeced anyone who could not afford to pay my

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:50.960
<v Speaker 1>price for a lesson in honesty. A truly honest man

0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:55.160
<v Speaker 1>would never have had my schemes. Wow, that is always

0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:57.560
<v Speaker 1>the thing, like the really good comments say, is basically

0:44:57.760 --> 0:45:01.800
<v Speaker 1>they wait for someone's greed to qualify them to become

0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:04.160
<v Speaker 1>the mark. And that's what he would do. The sting

0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:07.160
<v Speaker 1>we talked about nineteen seventy three movie Paul Newman Robert

0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Red allegedly based on all of his scams. He never

0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 1>saw the movie, and he said he never wanted to.

0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 1>He wouldn't watch it. Yeah. He turned ninety nine in

0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:19.319
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy four, and he told a reporter he had

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:25.160
<v Speaker 1>no regrets about his life, exactly saying, quote, I do

0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:29.360
<v Speaker 1>it the same way again, run it right back. On

0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:33.279
<v Speaker 1>his one hundredth birthday, he told reporters the same thing,

0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:36.160
<v Speaker 1>but he added, I don't feel a day over seventy.

0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 1>I still like to look at the ladies and take

0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:40.680
<v Speaker 1>a sip of wine. I like to listen to the radio.

0:45:40.719 --> 0:45:42.600
<v Speaker 1>But I'll be damned if I'll play bingo with the

0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:47.480
<v Speaker 1>restaurant here. It's a rip off. It's feisty. The cops

0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:52.280
<v Speaker 1>showed up on his birthday. Well, they wanted to present

0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:55.920
<v Speaker 1>him with a police bulletin from June four, n eighteen,

0:45:56.440 --> 0:45:58.759
<v Speaker 1>warning the department to be on the lookout for him,

0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:01.960
<v Speaker 1>and then they they also got a letter from Chicago

0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Mayor Richard Daily congratulated him, you know, real recognizers, real totally.

0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:11.279
<v Speaker 1>He's like he did the whole was the what was

0:46:11.320 --> 0:46:17.520
<v Speaker 1>the weather man? The one hundred year Fred Willard Scott? Yeah,

0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking the jeopardy answer. See he did the

0:46:23.680 --> 0:46:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Willard Scott and he's like, hooray, you're one hundred. February

0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:29.600
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy six, he passed away at the age of

0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:32.400
<v Speaker 1>one hundred. He spent the last three years of his

0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 1>life at the Lakefront Convalescent Center. And he actually died

0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:40.759
<v Speaker 1>with very little to his name, despite yeah, because he

0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:43.560
<v Speaker 1>had that lack of funds and all this like bureaucratic

0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:47.000
<v Speaker 1>stuff red tape. He wasn't buried in the plot next

0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:49.120
<v Speaker 1>to his wife and his daughter. He was buried in

0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:53.000
<v Speaker 1>a pauper's grave, which I'd like to correct. Um. He

0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:57.959
<v Speaker 1>spent all his money on parties, travel, close, general ball, Vivon. Yeah,

0:46:58.600 --> 0:47:02.120
<v Speaker 1>he spent the money well, regrets gener regret. Yeah, probably

0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the best way to do it, I think so. He

0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:08.000
<v Speaker 1>claimed to have about two thousand victims in his career.

0:47:08.840 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 1>MS educated popular and he calculated he made somewhere between

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 1>three and eight million dollars over the course of his career.

0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:21.280
<v Speaker 1>He's a really good teacher. He was arrested now depends

0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:23.560
<v Speaker 1>on who you ask, but he was arrested between twenty

0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:27.440
<v Speaker 1>five and forty one time, but only five convictions. That's

0:47:27.480 --> 0:47:31.320
<v Speaker 1>pretty good percentage. He spent a total of twelve years

0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:34.319
<v Speaker 1>of his life in prison for his crimes. That's a

0:47:34.360 --> 0:47:37.320
<v Speaker 1>really good rate. Yeah, And he wrote that he wasn't

0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 1>caught much because quote, I made it a rule never

0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:43.720
<v Speaker 1>to let any documentary evidence get out of my hands.

0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Though I displayed thousands of fake letters, documents, stock certificates, etcetera.

0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:52.960
<v Speaker 1>To prospective victims, I was always careful to recover them.

0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:55.959
<v Speaker 1>And then he used a really good forger to make

0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:58.320
<v Speaker 1>his all his fake stuff. Got to have a good forger,

0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:02.919
<v Speaker 1>you knowing taught us that. Yeah. Um, he made sure

0:48:02.920 --> 0:48:05.400
<v Speaker 1>that that he had like the foreign envelopes and the

0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:12.239
<v Speaker 1>postal markings. Yes, that alias. He loved Dr alri Um.

0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:14.200
<v Speaker 1>It was his favorite one to use. And it was

0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:18.359
<v Speaker 1>also a real person that he was impersonating was an

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:23.239
<v Speaker 1>actual mining engineer and an author. So he read the

0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:26.520
<v Speaker 1>guy's books and so that he could use information in

0:48:26.600 --> 0:48:31.799
<v Speaker 1>them in this conversation with potential marks um. And then

0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:35.920
<v Speaker 1>he also used his forger to make copies of the

0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:39.600
<v Speaker 1>book jacket with his own photo on the back to

0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:41.839
<v Speaker 1>cement the story. So if someone's like, oh, you wrote

0:48:41.880 --> 0:48:48.759
<v Speaker 1>a book, Yeah, here it is the details logistics, why

0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:52.600
<v Speaker 1>did he do it? I mean, well, this is what

0:48:52.680 --> 0:48:55.319
<v Speaker 1>he said quote. I don't believe I ever had any

0:48:55.360 --> 0:48:58.920
<v Speaker 1>basic desire to be dishonest. One of the motivating factors

0:48:58.920 --> 0:49:02.359
<v Speaker 1>in my actions was, of course, the desire to acquire money.

0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:05.319
<v Speaker 1>The other motive was a lust for adventure, and this

0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 1>was the only kind of adventure for which I was equipped.

0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:11.400
<v Speaker 1>The men I swindled were also motivated by a desire

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:14.240
<v Speaker 1>to acquire money, and they didn't care at whose expense

0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:18.480
<v Speaker 1>they got it. I was particular I took. I took

0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:20.560
<v Speaker 1>money only from those who could afford it. And we're

0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:23.000
<v Speaker 1>willing to go in with me in schemes they fancied

0:49:23.040 --> 0:49:28.640
<v Speaker 1>would fleece others. See that's the one that I'm like. Okay,

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:32.480
<v Speaker 1>So he told Saalbello that his marks quote may have

0:49:32.520 --> 0:49:35.440
<v Speaker 1>been respectable, but they were never any good and that

0:49:35.600 --> 0:49:38.240
<v Speaker 1>quote they wanted something for nothing. I gave them nothing

0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:46.680
<v Speaker 1>for something. You are his final thoughts quote. People will

0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:49.560
<v Speaker 1>tell you that crime does not pay. Perhaps that is right,

0:49:49.840 --> 0:49:52.600
<v Speaker 1>but it paid me handsomely. I feel that I have

0:49:52.680 --> 0:49:57.360
<v Speaker 1>lived a thousand years in seventy. Those periods of incarceration, well,

0:49:57.440 --> 0:49:59.400
<v Speaker 1>they were not always what I would have chosen, but

0:49:59.440 --> 0:50:02.000
<v Speaker 1>they gave me time to relax, reflect and catch up

0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:04.880
<v Speaker 1>on my reading. The bad part about serving a prison

0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:07.680
<v Speaker 1>term is not while you're doing the stretch. It's the

0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:10.319
<v Speaker 1>stigma that forever clings to you after you come out.

0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:13.320
<v Speaker 1>In England, it is illegal to refer to a person

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:16.040
<v Speaker 1>as an ex convict, but in this country you can

0:50:16.080 --> 0:50:18.960
<v Speaker 1>never escape the brand, no matter how hard you try.

0:50:19.080 --> 0:50:20.879
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that about anyone and all that. It's

0:50:20.880 --> 0:50:22.600
<v Speaker 1>a really good point. Yeah, it was a good point.

0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:26.680
<v Speaker 1>So that is Yellow Kid while dude, he's one of

0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:30.000
<v Speaker 1>my new favorite Yeah, he's an amazing character, and I

0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:32.600
<v Speaker 1>love that he's little bits of everybody. Yeah, exactly. I

0:50:32.640 --> 0:50:34.960
<v Speaker 1>gotta read about this Dill Pickle club too. You piqued

0:50:35.040 --> 0:50:38.840
<v Speaker 1>my curious. That a good one. Yeah. On another project,

0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:41.120
<v Speaker 1>I've done a lot of research on Emma Goldman and

0:50:41.160 --> 0:50:45.279
<v Speaker 1>I learned a lot about the Dill Pickle Club. Yeah,

0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:49.359
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