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So, Stuff you Should Know Colon 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:37.600 an Incomplete Companium Mostly Interesting Things, is coming soon to 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:42.280 change your life forever for the better. Welcome to Stuff 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:44.839 you Should Know, a production of My Heart Radios How 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:54.320 Stuff Works. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:57.360 and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant right there, and Jerry's 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:01.600 other somewhere. This is Stuff you Should No, the Fold 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:07.000 and Tuck edition. So Jerry's in her office now, yep, 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:10.440 I'm in the Stuff you Should Know Studio that's right 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:14.280 in Florida. You're at your home studio or a home studio, right, 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:17.440 you got like eight of them. Right, You're at Elvis. 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:20.000 Which room is closest to me by baby, I'll just 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:24.199 go in there while we're recording from today. Man uh. 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:27.600 And now Jerry is is like a ghost haunting the 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:31.640 computer in here recording it remotely, right, She's like, amazing, 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:36.679 what's the Yeah, she's she's like a ghost. You said 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.520 it best. She just texted me two minutes in and said, 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:43.679 your levels are good. So that's great, go back to 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:47.880 sleep chairs. Sounds about right. So I was talking to 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:50.160 Jerry earlier and she just reminded me we're talking to 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:53.440 Origami today. She just reminded me that, um, I'm my 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.480 first trip to Japan. I brought her back a paper 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:00.160 Orgami crane and that she still has it and was 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:03.720 thinking about that trip, Chuck, because on that trip Umi 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:06.320 took me to Japan. Remember when you guys liked each other, 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:10.239 you and Jerry, Yeah, we still do. It's that crane 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:14.079 that's keeping us friends. Um. But on that trip, one 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:18.320 of the places you took me was Hiroshima, right, sure, 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:21.520 and it is one of the neatest places I've ever been. 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:23.880 I know I've talked about it before, but one of 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:26.560 the things that you'll see there are just mounds and 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:32.079 mounds of origami cranes UM like cranes like the bird, 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:36.240 basically the quintessential origami model, not like building cranes, and 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:39.200 that's not what they're building. You never can't tell these days. 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:41.200 You know, Bob the Builder had a pretty good run 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:45.200 for a while there, so it could have been. But apparently, UM. 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:47.560 One of the reasons you see those cranes is because 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:52.959 there was a little girl from Hiroshima named Sadako Sasaki. Yeah, 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.079 I know, it's very sad. So she was I think 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:59.239 too when um the US dropped the nuclear bomb on 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:03.560 Hiroshima and she was exposed to radiation at that tender 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:08.200 young age and developed leukemia and she died at age twelve. 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.800 But before she died, she started this project of folding 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:16.280 a thousand paper cranes for in origami, which was kind 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.280 of this long standing thing that was associated with like 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:23.480 good luck or honor or dignity UM, and hers was 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.560 that if you there's another one that if you complete 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:30.959 a thousand cranes UM, you you have a wish. And 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:34.400 so this little girl Sadako Sasaki. Her wish was for 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:37.880 world peace, but she died before she could complete the 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:41.040 cranes and the thousand cranes, and that is upsetting. But 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.760 if to end it on a more heartwarming note, her 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:47.800 classmates got together and folded the remaining cranes in her 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:50.720 honor and they were buried with her, which is at 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:54.840 least a slightly uplifting ending. Right. Um, So when you 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:58.240 go to Hiroshima today, um at this peace memorial that 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.720 they've built, like a whole sex into the city where 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:02.400 the bomb went off has just been turned into this 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:07.280 anti nuclear, anti war peace memorial. Um. There's just tons 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.840 of cranes that were created by school children kind of 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:12.560 in honor of Sadako Sasaki and for this wish for 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:16.200 world peace. And if you stepped out of the studio 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:19.640 and followed me into the living room, you would see 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:22.800 a thousand paper cranes that you be folded just from 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:26.040 me too. You know who here at work has done that? 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:32.560 Who guess you know which? Which one of your colleagues 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:36.080 do you think would do this? I don't know, man, 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:39.560 I honestly don't know. There's so many varied, complex rich 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:43.400 people that we work with that, I can't even begin 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:47.280 to guess. I'm going to hazard a guess and say Ben, Uh, 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.120 I could see been doing that? What about the other Ben? 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:58.120 Probably not? Okay, Pam Peacock, Okay, yeah, our graphic designer 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.760 who is an artist easily and Um. I asked Pam 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.200 actually if I could read her Facebook post when she 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:07.520 completed it, because I think this is instructive on uh 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.560 and and you tell me whether it jibes with Humi's experience, 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:16.320 because it's sort of is instructive on the art of oregamy. 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:19.640 And it's more than just folding paper. It is meditative 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:23.160 and can be relaxing and healing and all all those things. 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:27.440 So Pam posted a photo of the final project and said, 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:30.200 this is what a thousand orgamy cranes looks like in 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:32.880 a pile of my coffee table tonight. I met the 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:36.520 goal on August to fold a thousand cranes within one 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:39.240 year's time. There were several reasons I wanted to take 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:42.840 on the challenge. The meditative quality of folding oregamy, to 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:46.520 practice dexterity and fine motor skills, the fun and making 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:48.880 a flat piece of paper into something dimensional and new 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:51.599 to make a whole bunch of something. There's a certain 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:55.000 satisfaction in that, but the biggest reason was to cultivate 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:58.360 more discipline within myself. To commit to a long term, 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:01.400 ongoing project in see it through to completion is a 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.800 big deal for me. Uh. And she goes on to 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.799 say she has a pretty long history about getting pumped 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.920 up about a project and then abandon it. And she 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:13.000 found with two months left she only had I'm sorry, 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:18.480 she had five hundred left to go, so ten months. Well, 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:20.800 I think she just took some time off. Sure, Well, yeah, 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:22.920 I mean that's that's how you're supposed to do. You're 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:24.160 not supposed to just sit there and do it. And 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:26.440 one fell swoop, but kind of misses a bunch of 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:28.440 the point, you know. Yeah. She said that she went 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:30.440 several months without it, realized she had a couple of 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:32.720 months and the clock was sticking, and she said, I 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.080 made the decision to recommit and push myself instead of 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:38.840 letting it go like so many other things. I know 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.520 I'll still struggle with those issues, but as an exercise growth, 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:44.200 I feel like I've leveled up a bit and continue 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:46.960 applying these strength and skills to my art, personal and 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:50.280 professional lives very nice and she's like, can check out 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:55.000 my finger muscles that do they're ripped? Yeah, Yubi's middle 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.400 name is stick to itiveness, So I don't think she 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.000 benefited in that sense, but there's definitely like a meditating 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:03.039 of aspect to it, And like when she was doing 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:04.880 it for me, it was like I thought it was 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:06.600 very sweet, and then the more I learned about it, 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.800 the sweeter I realized, how you know, it was it's 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.440 a I mean, to do that for somebody, uh, is 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:14.600 pretty cool, and to do it for yourself to like 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:16.760 Pam did, it's pretty neat as well. And I think 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:20.320 it was also for you me she uh yeah, probably know, 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:23.040 um yeah, I'm sure she got a tremendous amount out 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:24.680 of it too, you know. But it was one of 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:26.200 those things where she would just kind of work on 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.000 it when she felt like it. You know. There wasn't 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:31.160 any rush or anything like that, so it did have 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:34.080 like kind of a meditative thing for for sure. I 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.800 used to think a stick tuitiveness was a weird middle name, 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:39.840 but when I saw it written down like in the 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:42.200 context of her name, it just, I don't know, it 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.400 looked great. You're like, I've been pronouncing that Alice all 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.880 these years. It was so weird. So Pam said something 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:52.400 that UM I saw other people mentioned too about origami 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:56.320 is that it's transformative, like she's taking a piece of 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:59.400 paper and transforming it into something and there's this really 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:04.400 amazing seeing It's so there's a definite zen quality to 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:08.920 origami paper folding, right. And there's a documentary out there 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:12.800 called UM Between the Folds, and it's of course, of 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:16.400 course a PBS documentary UM, but it has this kind 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:20.000 of zen vibe to it too. It's really really mellow 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.679 and low key. But some of the stuff they're talking 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:26.000 about and showing and there's just nuts um and I'll 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:27.560 talk about it from time to time. But there's this 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:29.960 one guy in there name Michael la Fosse, and he 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:36.560 describes origami as um a metamorphic type of art, where 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.360 like with painting, you're adding paint, so it's an additive 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:42.320 kind of art. With you know, sculpting from like marble, 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:46.840 it's a subtractive art. With paper folding. In origamy, you're 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.640 you're taking the same thing and it's the same thing 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:53.760 that that um is the finished product. You're not adding 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:55.520 to it or subtracting to It's still just a piece 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:59.240 of paper, but you're transforming it into something else, and 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:04.000 that is kind of the essence of Origanti itself. Yeah, 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:06.199 this one was one that I was so sure that 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:09.880 we had done it before because it's just smacks of 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:13.920 stuff you should know. Uh, we'd love to cover Japanese 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.520 topics first of all, but I don't know. It just 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:18.640 felt like, surely we've done this, and I had to look. 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:22.360 I looked probably five different ways just to make sure 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:24.280 that we hadn't done it. You're like, what kind of 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:26.880 smart way would we title this? And well, that's what 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:28.840 I thought. That was My fear was that it would 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.679 be like called folding Madness or something stupid like that. 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:35.600 Did you search folding madness? That just made that up? 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:38.080 But what if that's the one that we already released. 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.920 It did seem really familiar. But I think I'm probably 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:48.719 just thinking about Bonzai maybe um, which I think is 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:51.040 similar in a way, and not just because they're both 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:55.319 Japanese disciplines, but I feel like the meditative quality and 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:59.240 the the care and the precision and the spiritual aspect, 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.240 I think they have a lot of overlapped there. One 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.719 of the big differences though, is that, um, the that 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:09.959 origami doesn't involve plant torture like bonsai does. Well in 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:13.480 bonsai does isn't. Uh, there's no paper torture involved. So 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:18.439 that's true. That's true. So um, when we talk about origami, 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:22.680 we're actually talking about this that is technically a subset 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:26.199 of this larger thing that actually grew out of oregami 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:30.360 and ended up forming this kind of umbrella art form 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:34.719 called paper folding appropriately enough, but origami everybody kind of 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:37.840 associates that with Japan. And the weird thing is when 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.679 we talk about ogamy um, which by the way, we 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:44.760 haven't really said it, but it's taking usually one sheet 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:48.439 of paper and folding it in certain ways so that 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:53.960 so that it it becomes some other representation of something 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.520 else or of shape or something other than that. But 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.880 the point of origami is that this this shape or 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:03.640 this new represent representation of like an animal or a 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:06.280 person or something, it's all made just by a single 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:08.839 sheet of paper typically and folding that paper. That's the 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.839 whole key. Yeah, And one of the other keys is 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.559 is that you're not gluing things, you're not cutting things. 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:20.080 It's really just folding and it can be very basic. Uh. 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:22.319 And I tried my hand at it today just to 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:26.160 make some very basic things. And I definitely get the UM, 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:31.760 I get the meditative aspects, although I was just doing 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.240 it to try and do something sort of quickly for 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.120 work and not in this style that you would normally 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:39.679 do origami. I could see how if you applied that 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:43.360 at your house, put on some good music, maybe turn 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:46.559 the lights down a little bit, shut the door, keep 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:50.440 keep your family far far away and your animals far 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.319 far away. I could see how it could accomplish that goal. 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:55.680 For me. I might start doing it. Some hadn't thought 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:57.800 about keeping the family far far away? Because you mean 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.400 was when she was folding that thousand cray means I'd 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.000 be like, what number are you on now? What number 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:05.680 are you on now? Every time she folded a new one. Yeah. 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.280 I think she probably was just an autopilot, which you 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:11.800 do answering you what you're doing over there? Is this 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:17.000 a crane too? Are you making another crane? Yeah? Yeah, 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:21.760 that would drive me nuts. Yeah. Um, So we should 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:23.920 probably go over a few of the terms. Um. The 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:28.120 term itself or gami they say, comes from order, which 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:32.000 means to fold pretty pretty smart. And then kami, which 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:36.840 is paper, so uru kami apparently was the original term 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:40.440 for it, and it's kind of, I guess, just became origami, 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.199 which as far as I could see, does is actually 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:45.720 not it's not actually a word. It's kind of an 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:49.040 offshoot of oru and kami. Yeah, and if you go 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.840 to UH, I mean you can make origami out of anything. 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:54.360 They talk about sticky notes and just copy paper. But 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:58.840 you can actually buy kami okay a m i online 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:00.600 if you want to go into an art store. These 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:02.319 days it might not be so easy to go into 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.280 a store, but um, that's what it might be called. 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.160 There are other kinds of paper that we'll talk about later, 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:10.400 but paper is what you need if you want to 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:12.599 be a paper folder. You don't need a bunch of 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:15.440 other stuff, which is a very low fi art form. 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:18.400 It's super cool in that way. And what you end 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:21.240 up with is called a model. Um. I guess you 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:23.439 could call it an art piece or something if you're 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:26.680 a little high flutin, but you're really just called models. Yes, 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:30.400 that's any any finished origami product is called the model. 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.880 There's also so this article says you need two things 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:37.559 for origami. You need a sheet of paper and some imagination. 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.320 But I would I would beg the difference. You don't 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:43.120 even need imagination because there's so many what are called 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:46.800 oregamy designs out there that are basically step by step 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:49.959 illustrations of the different folds you need to make. So 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:53.319 if you want to say, make a oregamy, donkey you. 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:55.240 As long as you have the paper and one of 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:59.600 these designs, you don't have to have any imagination whatsoever. Yeah. 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:02.520 And when I was first reading this too, I thought, well, 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.040 you need paper and fingers, But I realized that was 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:10.760 quite ablest actually, because there's actually a style of origami 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:12.880 from a British man named John Smith in the late 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:17.319 seventies called pure Land or pure Origami that is very 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:21.000 basic and was created in part so people who had 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:24.840 some sort of physical impairment could still realize the joy 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:28.000 in the meditative qualities of folding paper. I saw that too. 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:29.720 That was the one that appeals to me the most 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:33.000 because it's so simple. Yeah, same here. Um. Also, Chuck, 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:37.800 did you know that the world's greatest archer is Um 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:41.640 was born with no arms? I think we talked about that, right, 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:47.040 I don't know. No, definitely not no, because I just 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.600 saw it this past Sunday, so it's not possible we 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:52.400 did you you just had a memory from the future 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:57.560 that's pretty impressive in the Christopher Nolan movie. So I 0:14:57.680 --> 0:14:59.600 can't wait. But I have to say, man, I am 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:02.680 very disappointed to see movies starting to come out on 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:07.160 the trailers saying only in theaters. I'm like, I didn't 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:10.080 realize we were at that point again yet. Well. I mean, 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:13.520 his new movie Tenant is one of the It was 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:15.560 one of the big ones back in the early spring 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:17.880 when they were like, he's going to put it out 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:19.600 in theaters, even if he has to bump it a 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:21.760 month or two, Like he's not going to do an 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:23.880 at home thing. He's not gonna wait till next year. 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.920 And I think they're doing like pretty big time spacing 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.120 and stuff. But I ain't go into a movie theater 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:32.800 new and it's one of my favorite places to go. 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:37.320 I know, like we talked about the other day and sneezing, um, 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:39.240 how it's just so great to go see a movie 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:41.400 in the middle of the day, you know, Yeah, can 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:43.480 you imagine seeing a movie now and you hear someone sneeze? 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.000 I would be out of there. So fast. I just 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:49.560 start crying on the way to the movie theater. I 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.840 would not be at all comfortable about that right now, 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:55.160 So I think if actually, I think we should probably 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.800 take a break. We've been yammering for fifteen minutes. I 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.000 know we've made it for through the first two paragraphs. 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.840 So we'll come back after this and we'll talk about paper. 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:35.160 Very key to Oregon me right after this. Alrighty, I 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.520 teased Paper, you did. Paper doesn't like to be teased. 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:41.760 Paper did not like that. I thought about you earlier. 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:44.200 By the way, sidebar, I was watching some old Mitch 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:47.520 Hedberg stuff and I immediately was like, man, Josh would 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:49.840 love these. Somebody wrote in to say, you guys, have 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:52.120 you heard about what was it? It? Was it based 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.400 on a listener mail. No, I don't know how. I 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.400 think it was just in my feed on my Facebook 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:59.120 page and I just I don't know. It popped up. 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:00.960 It was so good joke about the belt and the 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:03.720 belt loops. I don't know about that one. What is it? 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.640 The belt is holding up the pants, but the belt 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.120 loops hold up the belt. Who's the real hero here? 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:15.440 That guy was priceless, so good. So paper is what 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:19.240 you're gonna need if you want to practice origami. And 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:22.879 China invented paper and about one oh five a d. 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:26.000 But it was a luxury atom. They weren't so much 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.919 into folding it, or at least into artwork, and they 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.359 might have folded letters or maybe they just scrolled. At 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.840 that point, I saw that they folded stuff into like 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:36.760 gold paper gold nuggets and then set them on fire. 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:42.280 Is offering offering to ancestors. So maybe pre prot origami, Yes, 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:47.600 definitely prot But in the sixth century Buddhist monks introduced 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:51.840 paper to Japan. It was pretty rare, uh and expensive 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:54.720 here as well, and was used for you know, special 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:57.879 occasions and stuff like that. But as paper get got 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:01.080 a little more ubiquitous than they decided that they could 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:04.720 start folding it in interesting ways. And it wasn't a waste, right, 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:08.479 it was affordable, I guess. Yeah. As it became more fordable, 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:11.800 folding became a lot more widespread, and as it became 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:16.159 more widespread, people started doing kind of interesting things with it. Um, 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:17.720 like you're saying, at first, it was just kind of 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:22.040 reserved for special occasions like weddings or um. There's one 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:25.480 called the slaw Day no she day s h I 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:29.040 d e. I was thinking of arda um and it's 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:32.000 like a zigzag pattern that they used to kind of 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:36.720 denote like um, like religious places or altars or something 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:39.320 like that. And then somebody said, well, wait, you can 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:41.800 make a frog out of this. Check this out, and 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.400 I think our agony kind of took off. And that's 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:49.440 that's how it stayed, at least in Japan for several centuries, 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:52.160 where it was they knew how to make a kite, 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:54.239 they knew how to make a box, they knew how 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:58.600 to make cranes. Cranes were huge UM and in fact, 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.440 one of the first books on origami was called Folding 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:08.760 one Thousand Cranes UM. Let's see Somemba zuru orikata um 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:12.400 a thousand crane folding. So that was a big deal 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:15.600 already all the way back in the eighteenth century. But 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:21.000 UM finally in the I believe the nineteen thirties, I 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:26.680 think around seven, there was a guy um whose name 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:31.720 was Akira Yoshizawa. And you cannot talk about origami or 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:36.520 paper folding, or paper or folding, or Japan or shoes 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:41.399 without mentioning Akira Yoshizawa. This guy was this he was. 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:44.520 He single handedly took what it was the centuries old 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:47.919 school children's craft by this time, by the nineteen thirties, 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:51.359 rolled around that had been static for centuries and said 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:53.280 I'm going to turn this into an art form. And 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:56.560 he did yeah, big time. And by this point it 0:19:56.720 --> 0:20:00.399 was widely referred to as origami. I think in the 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:03.680 late eight I'm sorry, late seventeen hundreds it was still 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:06.680 called orri kata and that was from that that book 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:10.879 about the Thousand Cranes. But by this time it was origami. 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:14.800 And he was a laborer for most of his life, 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:17.320 and he was a hobbyist as far as origami went. 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:21.000 But he started writing out these diagrams and basically sort 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:23.359 of these how two's, and if you've ever looked at 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:27.000 an origami book or something online, you know they if 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:29.240 you don't know how to do it, they're these very simple, 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.080 depending on the ultimate model that you want to end 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:35.800 up with, uh, these diagrams that you can just follow 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:38.240 along these lines and fold and just kind of copy 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:40.800 what you're seeing. And he was the first person to 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:44.160 do this and eventually published these in the nineteen fifties 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:48.120 in books, and uh, it was a really big deal, 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:51.359 Like it was already a popular thing in Japan. Um. 0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:53.440 Previous to that, it was actually in Spain and some 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:55.480 other parts of Europe thanks to the Silk Road. But 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:59.960 it really sort of popularized it worldwide, I think after 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:02.719 his book. Yeah, well even before then, I think there 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:06.439 was a magazine that celebrated like the New Year by 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:08.680 commissioning him to do like the twelve signs of the 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:11.960 zodiac and origami. They put it on their cover, and 0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:15.600 so you can imagine for Japan everything that had to 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:18.119 do with oregamy was like, look at this kite that 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:21.080 our kid made and now it's hanging on our refrigerator. 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:24.320 Um to the twelve signs of the zodiac, and these 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:26.399 things actually look kind of like a monkey and the 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:30.080 fox looks amazing, and um, it's just what this guy 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:33.720 did just completely blew everybody away. And very shortly after 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:36.800 that he devised that system, started having exhibitions around the 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:40.320 world and became like this, this revered master of origamy, 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:43.560 like the first true origami artist, the one who said 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:45.560 you can make an art form out of this, and 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:50.080 he decided to live like this kind of um uh poverty. 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:54.800 I don't want to say poverty stricken, but he poverty 0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:58.240 adjacent life, very nice, chuck, where he supported himself selling 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:03.600 soup door to door. Um. He sold something called um sukadani, 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:06.240 which is like a kind of a seaweed condiment that 0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:08.119 you put on rice. He'd sold. He'd sold that door 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:11.360 to door, and he just made enough money to support 0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:15.320 his habit of um origami. That's what all he wanted 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:17.560 to do. But what's amazing about him is he was 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:21.040 like the pre eminent origami artist for decades. He made 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:26.800 at least fifty thousand different models. Um and he it 0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:30.840 is just look him up right now, Akira Yoshizawa, um 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:33.520 and he never sold a single one of them. He 0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:35.520