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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Bechdel Cast. My name is

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Speaker 1: Jamie Loftus, my name is Caitlin Darante, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: a very special episode of the beck Doel Cast. We

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Speaker 1: have a little treat for you today, So if if

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Speaker 1: a second. But for for our loyal listeners, um, we

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Speaker 1: are unlocking a much demanded episode of the Bechtel Cast

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Speaker 1: today from our patreon ak Matreon page. So what you're

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Speaker 1: going to here today is an episode that people who

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Speaker 1: us for years and all of our matrons have been

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Speaker 1: sneakily enjoying for a long time. But it's the Legally

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Speaker 1: Blond episode. Yes, we recorded and released this quite some

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Speaker 1: time ago. I think it's around two yeah, two years

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Speaker 1: what a what a delightful movie and episode to share

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Speaker 1: so it's it's unlocked, And if you like this episode,

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Speaker 1: you an idea of what our Matreon episodes are like.

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Speaker 1: They're a little looser, they're fun. We don't have to

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Speaker 1: we're unlocking. The Bechtel test is a media metric invented

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Speaker 1: by cartoonist Alice and Bechtel, sometimes called the Bechtel Wallace test,

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Speaker 1: Not so much, But today's movie might fare a little

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Speaker 1: bit better than normal. Jamie, can we demonstrate the Bectal

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Speaker 1: Hey Caitlin, would you join me in a little bend

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Speaker 1: really fun. Yes, without further ado, please enjoy this very

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Speaker 1: special unlocked episode legally Blonde. On the Doe Cast, the

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Speaker 1: whatever her ambition was and worked hard and happened to

423
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: me this great person. Like that's the right idea. Chasing

424
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: a man in order to discover your own potential is

425
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 1: just not a good message to be sending, particularly if

426
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 1: you're aiming at a younger slash teen audience, which this

427
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: movie is. Well. It is nice to see a female

428
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: character like l who has a lot of drive and determination,

429
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: Like she's extremely driven to the point where she within

430
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: a matter of maybe a couple of weeks, studies for

431
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: and does well enough on the lstats to get into Harvard.

432
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: Although murders eales like Elwoods Is with a lot of flaws,

433
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: I think a really good character. I think she's great,

434
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: and part of that is like nostalgia attachment, but I

435
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: really do like her. I agree. I like that she

436
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: is extremely driven and active. Her motivation at the beginning

437
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: and throughout most of the movie is misguided, and it does.

438
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: It does turn around because by the end that storyline

439
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: with Warner resolves itself. By he comes around, He's like actually,

440
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: I just saw you in that case, and you are

441
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: the woman I've wanted this whole time. I can't take

442
00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: you seriously now. And she's like, She's like, I've been

443
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: waiting so long for you to hear this. But if

444
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: I want to be a partner in a law firm

445
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: by the time I'm thirty, I'm going to need a

446
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: boyfriend who wasn't such a bone head. And to be honest,

447
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: Caitlin clapped and I was crying. So however it worked.

448
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: To me. That's kind of one of those moments where

449
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: it's like, cool line, cool feminist line. So I think

450
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: that this more responsibly than a lot of movies of

451
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: its type, but does play into the like you go

452
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: girl style of feminism. That and here's what I'm interested

453
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: in hearing your thoughts on this, because I my notes

454
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 1: kind of looped in on themselves on this topic. But

455
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: so l Wood, there's this whole overarching narrative in this

456
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 1: movie of weird, very black and white West Coast East

457
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: Coast stereotypes of like everyone from the East Coast is

458
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: mean and not horny at all. Everyone from the West

459
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: Coast is really hot and rich and like more fun

460
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: and it's clear like the East Coast is like demonized

461
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 1: for the bulk of this movie and all the characters

462
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: who we meet there, with the exception of the East

463
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: Coast white trash community, which I appreciate regardless, it's like

464
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: there's a lot of this movie to me feels like

465
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: l Wood's reclaiming the pink, reclaiming you know, this feminine

466
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: appearance in this very visually motivated Oh god, I sound

467
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: a million years old, but like this like you know,

468
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: like reclaiming conventional hotness in an intellectual sense, but it

469
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: feels like kind of a safe, very marketable choice to

470
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: be like we're going to reclaim hot women, you know,

471
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: like it's to an extent, is like the good thing

472
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: about it. And this is where my nose caved in themselves,

473
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: because like, oh, is she just like reclaiming conventional hotness

474
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: that's not particularly interesting, Like oh, hot women can be

475
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: lawyers too, It's like okay, like okay, great, But with

476
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: the way Ellen her friends on both coasts, who were

477
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: more traditionally feminine, they do seem to be doing it

478
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: for themselves. And it's not that I noticed very like that.

479
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: You don't get those lines of like, well, if I

480
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: don't do this, A man won't like me if I

481
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: don't do that. Like it does seem like they do

482
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: it because they just like they place value on it.

483
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: But the whole like she's wearing pink in a courtroom

484
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: and her boobs are big, does not totally track with me.

485
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: Of like we're going to reclaim Victoria's secret hotness but

486
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: in that current room, Like it just I don't know

487
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: it was that supposed to be empowering, you know, like

488
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: Victoria's secret models who have higher ambitions. It's just a

489
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: very small group, you know, right. I also had trouble

490
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:58,479
Speaker 1: processing this idea of she's a very cartoonish character. Not

491
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: to say that there aren't some people like that out there.

492
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: I mean she is, and she's a great great cartoon

493
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: but so she's, you know, this very stereotypical like loves pink,

494
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: loves shopping, knows fashion, loves to get her nails done,

495
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: like feminine, she's smart, right, there is a there is

496
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: a like, but the twisted Yeah, so she's just like

497
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: sort of you know, hyper feminine woman. And I think

498
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: the movie seeks to sort of dismantle this stereotype that

499
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: pretty blonde sorority girls can also be intelligent and good lawyers,

500
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: which is true and fair, but who the message that

501
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: it just seems like a very narrow It's like, who

502
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: is this for exactly? Not to say that, like stereotypes

503
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: shouldn't be dismantled, it just seems like a very bizarrely specific,

504
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: deeply marketable. There were barbies of Elwoods, you know, like there,

505
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: it's a very marketable stereotype to be dismantling, and it's

506
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: not even it's not dismantling it in a visual way

507
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: at all. So the visual aspect is kept intact, therefore

508
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: keeping all the marketable parts of it kept intact. There

509
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: is a part where, like her costume choices, they change

510
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: a bit in the middle of the movie where she

511
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: doesn't dress quite so pink. She has a blue outfit

512
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: on at one point, but then it's a beanie You're

513
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: just like she's lost herself. But then towards the end again,

514
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: when she makes her grand appearance as the new person

515
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: that Brooke Taylor hired to defend her, she's got this

516
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: like it is a great I mean, her entrance in

517
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: that scene. To be fair, they do a full body

518
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: shot of her, which I usually take issue with, but

519
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: the outfit is more than the outfit in that scene.

520
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: To me, that outfit also represents like she's going to

521
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: be herself and do this as well, which I think

522
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: is a good message, like represent yourself the way you

523
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: want to, but your I will. You mentioned like there

524
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: was a r B of l Woods, and that's why

525
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: I know, throughout Western cultural history, the beautiful blonde female

526
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: form has been the most sort of easily digestible feminine

527
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: form for like Western culture to consume, and like that's

528
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: sort of been the ideal and we all have to

529
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: strive for that and da da da, Right, So maybe

530
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: that's why that choice was made to like represent that

531
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: type of archetypal stereotypical character in this movie. I mean, okay, now,

532
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: no not. My mind is kind of changing a little bit,

533
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 1: where for sure there are more pervasive, culturally relevant, immediately

534
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: relevant to people's everyday lives stereotypes to be dismantled in

535
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: major releases. I think it is sort of a sneaky

536
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: win on behalf of the of the filmmakers that they're

537
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: able to make that commentary pretty effectively while keeping all

538
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: the visual marketing intact. But then I mean now that

539
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: you when you said, like, you know, the whatever, the

540
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: sort of playboy ideal of shout out to my former employer,

541
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: playboy who can truly kiss masks um, but the the

542
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: you know, like that conventional ideal of the blonde women.

543
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: I guess it is sort of like where that that

544
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: trope is very much like. As much as the boobs

545
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: and the hair are critical to that image, what is

546
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: equally critical to that image is complacency doing whatever they're told.

547
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: And the way that women who look like that are

548
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: are viewed from like just a camera aspect is always

549
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: in a way that's supposed to be pleasing, and thought

550
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: is never implied. So now that you said that, I'm like,

551
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: maybe it is like it it is interesting. I don't

552
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: think it's the most relevant commentary, but it is interesting.

553
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: I don't think it doesn't one like there's right now

554
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: we should have been thinking about a lot of things

555
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: in two thousand one, and maybe blonde wealthy women were

556
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: not women the list. But but it is comment They

557
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: do comment a lot on it. I think by the

558
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: end it takes a while, but by the end it's effective.

559
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: I mean there are moments where she does say like

560
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: you know, no one takes me like I get sort

561
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: of discriminated against because of my hair color because I'm

562
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 1: a blonde. Imagine being in an actually marginalized person saying

563
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: that I'm like, oh, I'm so fucking sorry that you're

564
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: so hot and red and you got it. You still

565
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: got it into Harvard like, well, can we talk ye,

566
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: let's talk about good segment. Well, I wantn't to just

567
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: really say quickly that I think that we should, right now,

568
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: right here, claim the new stereotype for a female character,

569
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: which is the but the twist is where it's like

570
00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: she's either she's very hot or she's very ugly, but

571
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: the twist is she's smart or she could be hot.

572
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe take off her glasses it right, Yeah, it's

573
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: like she's hot, but the twist is she's smart or

574
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: she's smart, and the twist is she's also beautiful. There's

575
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: a really I have not seen the show, but my

576
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: my good pal Catherine Cohen in New York does a

577
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: great one woman show called but the twist is she's

578
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: gorgeous one of my favorites. Great turn of phrase, and

579
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a trope that's used a lot. Yeah, Okay,

580
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: So the scene with the admissions board at Harvard who

581
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 1: are reviewing her video essay and trying to determine whether

582
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: or not to accept her I think the only all

583
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: males scene in the movie that I can think of

584
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: same with more than it's no no. There's a few

585
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: times where middle Park Wilson and Victor Garber, or as

586
00:35:51,640 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: I like to call him, Thomas Andrews Mr Andrews like

587
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: I'll try, I didn't build stronger, she's oh, and then

588
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: earlier the mo she's strong and true just like you,

589
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: dumb fuck Oh, but it's sad when he does and

590
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: stops the clock. Anyways, But there there are a few

591
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 1: I feel like one on one scenes with Luke Wilson

592
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: and Victor Carbert. But in terms of like this is

593
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: a scene full of men versus the number of scenes

594
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: in this movie that are full of women in a

595
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: way that it's just like, whoa great, this is the

596
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: only one. Yeah. So in this scene we see around

597
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: eight six or eight eight old white guys old mostly yeah,

598
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: mostly older for sure, all white men, basically deliberating on

599
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: whether or not to except l to Harvard, and they're

600
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: looking at her essay, which most of the time. She

601
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: isn't a swimsuit. She's a weird choice. But also I

602
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: feel like that is like an unabashedly Elwood's choice. That is,

603
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: for all the implications of it, I do appreciate that

604
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: she is true to herself in the video. I mean

605
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: she's playing to her strengths, which is that she was

606
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: the president of her sorority. Yes, like, that's one of

607
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: my favorite parts of the movie. It is an iconic

608
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: the days of our lives, like the evil Stephano and

609
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: like it's it's great. It's I used to watch the

610
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 1: soap operas amas, so basically the whole scene is them.

611
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: I think there's one guy who's like, I don't know,

612
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: and then all of the other ones are trying to

613
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 1: They have decided they want to accept her, basically because

614
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: they find her attractive, and they're trying to rationalize why

615
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: it's an okay decision to let her in, right, because

616
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: they're like, well, she cares about animals, and she's creative

617
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: and she likes music because she was in a Ricky

618
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 1: Martin video. And it's like, this is a challenging scene

619
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: because written on paper, nothing that is being vocalized is

620
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 1: inaccurate or wrong. Does l Woods necessarily deserve to be

621
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: at Harvard at the beginning of the movie, and don't

622
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: really think so. I mean, she has the correct scores

623
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: and she has good grades, but it just I don't know,

624
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: Like I I struggle with the fact that she has

625
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: lit Like, it seems unlikely to me that someone who

626
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: has a bachelor's degree in fashion management and has no

627
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: background or previously indicated interest in law would get into

628
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: Harvard Law School realistically, no matter who you are, that

629
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: just seems unlikely, especially because Harvard. It's Harvard, probably the

630
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: hardest school in the US. Ticket you could get into

631
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: a law school with those qualifications, good els at scores

632
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: four point oh and whatever you happen to major in

633
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: Harvard Law School. I don't think so. But we also

634
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: find out later that Warner also doesn't totally deserve to

635
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: be there, so because Harvard's a fucking like you know,

636
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: Harvard is like sort of known for that sort of

637
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: weird nempotis, Oh, his father gave a call to somebody

638
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: then he I mean, regardless on paper, that scene would

639
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: look in theory like they are naming her qualifications, and

640
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: it ends by saying el Woods Welcome to Harvard. But

641
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: the tone of that scene is very she's hot, we

642
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: got a letter, you know. However, it just I feel

643
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: like it just credits they're protecting this a little bit

644
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,479
Speaker 1: in a way that's like, well, so there's a whole

645
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: lot I want to say about that one. I think

646
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: that is sort of almost a foreshadowing of what happens

647
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: later on, where she learns that she basically only got

648
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: that internship because her professor found her attractive, because he

649
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: makes a pass at her, and then she has this

650
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: whole thing where she's like, garber crap. Law school was

651
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: a mistake. I don't even deserve anything I got because

652
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: we wanted me for my looks and stuff like that,

653
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: which is a whole thing I want to get into later.

654
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: So it's I think foreshadowing that. However, I think a

655
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: lot of people would come to Elwood's defense, and I

656
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: think it theirs, because the thing is that she is

657
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: extremely determined, and yes, she does have the resources to

658
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: pay for a nicely produced video essay that a lot

659
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: of people would not have the resources to do because

660
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: like her get We'll get to the class thing too,

661
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: because her class thing is a major thing in this

662
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: but like her sort of advocating for herself as a

663
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: reason that she should be accepted to Harvard in the

664
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: video essay, are not that compelling of reasons because she's

665
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: saying I already use lawyer jargon in everyday use because

666
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: like you see someone cat calling her and then she

667
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: turns out and she's like, I object another iconic from it.

668
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: It's great, But I think that her main qualities in

669
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: the movie that I like her for because I'm not

670
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: necessarily as on board with Ellwoods as maybe you or

671
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: bigger fans of the movie. However, I do appreciate her

672
00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: for her determination because she and I think that quality alone,

673
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe not alone, but that because later on

674
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: she she does show a lot of improvement when she

675
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: first gets to law school. By the end, she one thousand.

676
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: Like I mean, even at the midpoint in the movie,

677
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, this woman does deserve to be here.

678
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: She's working really hard. And to clarify, I mean at

679
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: the time of this scene, sure, I don't think that.

680
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: It's like by the end, it's like, man, she really coasted,

681
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: Like she works so fucking hard and does a lot

682
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: of amazing stuff. I just mean, in regards to this scene,

683
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: the movie is implying that she is perhaps not being

684
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: admitted for all the right reasons, regardless of who she

685
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: is as a person and the fact that she clearly

686
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: you know, deserves to be there. But this scene kind

687
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: of nags her in a weird way. Right. There's a

688
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: part where these group of men who are deliberating about

689
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: this says something like, oh, well, she's a fashion major,

690
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 1: is if like that's the reason why she shouldn't be here?

691
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: But then another one says, well, we've never had one

692
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: be for and aren't we always looking for? Diversity is

693
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: clearly not the type of diversity that like admissions board

694
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: people should be considering. But I think that's played as

695
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: a joke. I think so too. Yeah, but I think

696
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 1: this scene is a comment on how it's so often

697
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: a group of rich, old, straight white men making decisions

698
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: that affect the fate of a whole bunch of different

699
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: types of people. They end up making the right call

700
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: for l because she does prove herself eventually, but it's

701
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: kind of a fluid. But yeah, basically, like I said,

702
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: they accept her because most of the men in this

703
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 1: room have seen this video of her in her bathing

704
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: suit and been like, yeah, I definitely see her here

705
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: at Harvard. And the implication is it because I want

706
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: to see her here at Harvard, Yeah, and not because

707
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: she necessarily has the qualifications. Because there's one character who

708
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: keeps me like, well, I don't know what about this thing,

709
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: and they're like, no, it's she's a friend of the animal.

710
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 1: The thing is like that he Okay, not to harbor

711
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: in the scene too much because this is a small

712
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: scene in but yeah, I don't mean to demonize el

713
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: in any way. In that scene. She has no control

714
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: over how these men are viewing her. I do think

715
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: that the movie is implying perhaps at the very beginning

716
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: of the movie, and you could view that as possibly

717
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: like maybe she's not a character of any gender who's

718
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: randomly like, you know, my ex boyfriend's gonna do this,

719
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go on their exact career path, like

720
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: they probably wouldn't get into a graduate school of the

721
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 1: career path that's the opposite of what they've been doing,

722
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: just because they decided three weeks before the hell sets

723
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: that they wanted to whatever. El Woods is still a

724
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: great character to be. That scene is weird. It's not

725
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: I don't even think it's bad because I don't I

726
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: don't want to like be like, oh, they're making you know,

727
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: they're not saying exactly what I want to be said,

728
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: and therefore it cannot be a scene in a movie.

729
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: I think it's a lot of commentary, but I don't

730
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: like that it negs the main character, even though she

731
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: overcomes it. Anyways, Yeah, I'm sorry. This is a very

732
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: complex movie. You know. I just realized how many things

733
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 1: we have to talk about. I'm like, I'm ted, And

734
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: this is Jamie saying that we need to take a

735
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: quick ad break. But we'll be right back to the

736
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 1: year eighteen in just a second, and we're back to Okay.

737
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: The next thing I want to talk about is while

738
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: she does have a number of female friends in the

739
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: beginning of the movie with her two sorority sisters, one

740
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,479
Speaker 1: we know his name is Margot. I think they both

741
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: have names. We if the second character of the to

742
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: her two main friends in California is named Blinking, you

743
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 1: would have missed it because we missed it. Yeah. Yeah,

744
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: I was like trying to pay close attention and I

745
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: never figured it out. So there's the there's a a

746
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: blonde woman whose name is Marco. And I hate that

747
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: I'm reducing women to their hair colors, but because we

748
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: don't know their names, I don't know how those are

749
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: the only time. For the most part, there's are the

750
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 1: only two types of women we see in this movie

751
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: are blonde. White blonde and white brunette. Were with a

752
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: few but mostly yes. Right, so there the woman with

753
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: like shorter, kind of auburn burnette hair. I don't think

754
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: we ever actually learned her name on screen. I hope

755
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: we do. She does have those friendships, and those are

756
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 1: two women who support her, except that they're basically supporting

757
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 1: l in her pursuit of being proposed to buy Warner

758
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: and not necessarily her pursuit of going because whenever L'

759
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: is like, oh, I'm studying for the els ads, I'm

760
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 1: gonna go to Harvard Law School, and they're like, why

761
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: would you do that? And then there's a phone call

762
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,959
Speaker 1: later on when they again, to be fair, she's never

763
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: displayed an interest in law. Never Yeah, And then but

764
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: there's a scene whenever, like she gives them a call

765
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: and she's like, has he proposed yet? We want you

766
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: to come back so that you can leave law school.

767
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: That scenes sucks. At first. I appreciate how her friends

768
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: in California are supportive of what she's trying. I don't

769
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: think that they should, like, you know, a real friend

770
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: would be like, you don't do that, Like you know,

771
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 1: like if you were like, hey, I've fallen in love

772
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 1: with a carpenter, I need to start working in construction

773
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: in Indiana tomorrow, I would say, hold the fund. Actually,

774
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: do not do that. That's a bad idea. However, their

775
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: support of can't discredit them for that. But then when

776
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: even when she does go to Harvard and starts to

777
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 1: have a vested interest in her own education, that whole

778
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: scene they don't ask about school at all, and it's like,

779
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 1: the whole scene is about the blonde woman's wedding and

780
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: we miss you, and also we didn't tell you that

781
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: one of us is getting married before we went wedding

782
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: dress shopping, but we're friends. Weird. Anyways, that storyline does

783
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: resolve itself by the two of them showing up in

784
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: her big case of the end a lot of third magic,

785
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: But until then, it's just a whole lot of like

786
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: why are you in law school? Law schools for losers?

787
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 1: But she to have her displayed in interesting like, which

788
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: is as that does make sense, which is part of

789
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: the problem about a movie where the main character the

790
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: thing that they're not interested in. Also, it seems like

791
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: she was very like I mean, even if we go

792
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: back to that admission scene where she did have all

793
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: these fashion industry based accomplishments, seems like you were passionate

794
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: about that and then she and I mean, it's a

795
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: testament to her intelligence and her character that she's able

796
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: to make a total switch and still excel at it.

797
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: But it's like you seemed like you're doing pretty well,

798
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: like you had a four point oh in this industry

799
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: that you were already working in. But sure old wait

800
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 1: list showed Warrener, you know, throw all that away. Maybe

801
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: though she gets her law degree and then she ends

802
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: up working in fashion law. You know that branch of

803
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: law off I'm sure exists. I mean, like well, I mean,

804
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: and in terms of like Elwoods character staying always tur

805
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: which I think is why regardless of all the issues

806
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 1: of like she's a rich white lady with limitless means,

807
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: I think that the reason people connect with this character

808
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: so strongly is she never abandons her interests and her

809
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: like the essence of who she is. At the beginning

810
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: of the movie, we see her grow as a person

811
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: and grow into herself a little bit, but like she doesn't.

812
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: There's not that total Princess Diaries style one eighty from

813
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: I was like this and now I'm the opposite, and

814
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: it's better where Elwood's remains herself and grows as a person.

815
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: I think that. I mean, that's why I like her

816
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: a lot. And even though it's very like God in

817
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: the Machinery at the in the in the scene where

818
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: she's able to extract a murder confession from a brunette

819
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: because of her knowledge of how perms work, which is

820
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: I think a really well written scene and goofy, you

821
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 1: know see, I think I have some problems with that scene,

822
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: but I mean I think that it's one of those

823
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: things where for me it's like comes down to like

824
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: from an entertainment aspect, I feel like the right choice

825
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: was made of like that is fun to watch, of

826
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: like she's using her knowledge she's had the whole time

827
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: in order to accomplish a new goal. I think that

828
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: that at its core is interesting. I think that on

829
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: the other hand, having her be like really heteronormative girl

830
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: knowledge put a brunette in jail. You know, like that

831
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: not as good because like it would be great to

832
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: see her definitely use the law to put her as

833
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: opposed to using perm knowledge. Character Wise, it makes sense

834
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: to me, right exactly because the movie sets it up

835
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: that like L is the only one who could have

836
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,959
Speaker 1: figured this out because of her knowledge of hair care

837
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: and fashionality, because she's a similar thing happened where a

838
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: character that she's trying to sort of incriminate the pool

839
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: boy whose characters they mightn't remember into but salvataere yeah,

840
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: because he has made the statement that Brook Taylor, the

841
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: person that they're defending in this case, he and her

842
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: were lovers. And she's like, hang on a minute, that

843
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: doesn't check out. And then he says something like yeah,

844
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: he makes a comment on her like product shoes. She's like,

845
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: wait a minute, he can't have had an affair with her.

846
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: He's gay because he knows about product. This movie's queer

847
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: characters are not treated well before we get there. I

848
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: think that the movie does make that commentary of L

849
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: being uniquely qualified to law is made time and time

850
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: again because and again it's set up plot wise, it

851
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 1: very easily. If the plot had gone literally in any

852
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: other less convenient direction, would not be true and we'd

853
00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: see her struggle more. But when the main legal of

854
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: the movie is a sorority sister who the East Coast

855
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: elite have trouble communicating with, L again is the one

856
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: who's uniquely qualified to communicate with her. So to me,

857
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: because we had already seen LB positioned as like she

858
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: is learning and doing very well in law school, and

859
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: it's like accomplishing and doing all the things she should

860
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: be doing. But the twist is she is also able

861
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: to communicate with wealthy blonde women. To me, that tracked

862
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: through the end of like where her wealthy blonde woman

863
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: knowledge was able to put a wealthy brunette woman in jail.

864
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. But but even if it is a

865
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: problematic through line, it is a through line sure. I mean,

866
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 1: like I said, the movie does make a point to demonstrate, Yeah,

867
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: L is the only one that could have won this

868
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: case because of her knowledge about you know, hair and

869
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: fashion that no one else had. And she makes all

870
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: these breakthroughs in this case because her like sisterhood with

871
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: the client and all that stuff. So it's being like, hey,

872
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: this type of woman can be an asset in the world. However, Okay,

873
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: so she does figure out the case by using deductive

874
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: reasoning and using her intelligence just figuring it out law,

875
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,760
Speaker 1: but like maybe not the core of it, but her

876
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: prime skill that makes her figure all this out is

877
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: like a very stereotypical, hyper feminine thing where it's like, yes,

878
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: hair and beauty and vanity kind of thing bugged me

879
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: a little bit, not so much that I still wasn't

880
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 1: on board with that whole, but it's just it was

881
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: just a little frustrating that, like, and the thing that

882
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: gets her to win the cases marketable, Yeah, like marketable

883
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: traditionally feminine qualities. Like, yeah, she is a tricky character

884
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: because it's like it's very easy to see almost everything

885
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: she does in two very different rice. Again going back

886
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: to the movie, really doubling down on like l is

887
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: herself and this is what is the cause of her succeeding,

888
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: is like sticking to her guns and this sort of

889
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: I guess that weighs into the East Coast Women and

890
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: Vivian in particular, is that where she has this very

891
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: contentious relationship with Vivian for the at least the first

892
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: half of the movie, it's her being herself by honoring

893
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: the sisterhood Delta new vows between she and Brooke that

894
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: wins Vivian's respect. So again, it's like l doing a

895
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: very l thing that ends up winning the respect of

896
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: someone you wouldn't expect And I really like that. Yeah,

897
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: more on that, especially her friendship arc with Vivian and

898
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: then one of the other notable female characters, Enid. So,

899
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: as I said many many moons ago, she has a

900
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: couple of female friendships that are strong and supportive and

901
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 1: that's great, and then she has another one in Paulette,

902
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: which can talk about in a second. But then she

903
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: has these The movie sort of poises her against these

904
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: couple other female characters who are classmates of her. So

905
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 1: it's basically saying like, oh, well, these, you know, Vivian

906
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 1: and l and Enid our classmates, and therefore they're sort

907
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: of in competition because everyone's going to be vying for

908
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,479
Speaker 1: the best grades and these coveted internships and and stuff

909
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: like that. I mean that makes sense, and also that

910
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: it does. However, Vivian is introduced and immediately their enemies

911
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: because the first scene you see Vivian is her being like, yes,

912
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 1: I agree, professor, she's unprepared kick her out of class,

913
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: and then the scene right after that is yeah. The

914
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: scene right after that is L learning that Vivian and

915
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: Warner are engaged, and then there's a bunch of scenes

916
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: after that where Vivian like makes a point to flaunt

917
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 1: her engagement to Warner in front of L. So basically,

918
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: even though she's in law school and pursuing alat and like,

919
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: this is a passion of hers that we are meant

920
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 1: to believe throughout her whole life, unlike L, who just

921
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: decided two months ago, I'm going to go to law school,

922
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 1: which is that's another Still, it's a fun Victor Garver's

923
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: character sucks, but that's a fun line in the movie Wait,

924
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: which one slightly misogynsts, but it is fun. It's like,

925
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: I do you think she woke up one day and

926
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: was like, oh, go to law school? Because that is

927
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 1: literally what happened. That is what happened. But so with Vivian,

928
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: we're meant to believe is this passionate about law person.

929
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: Yet the movie spends so much time showing her being

930
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 1: very petty toward L and basically only caring about her

931
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: engagement to Warner. I think Vivian is a totally dissonant,

932
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: underwritten character as a whole. Again, switching to the other

933
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: side of this, the movie has everyone wanting to be

934
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: firmly in Elwood's corner the entire movie. The way Vivian

935
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: reacts to l in the first third to half of

936
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: the movie is always too much, Like it's always too much,

937
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: hey's my boyfriend now, and like I want you to

938
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: leave class because I don't like you, Like it's too much,

939
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: and they're they're laying it on too thick. Fundamentally, I

940
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: don't think it's fair to demonize Vivian to have it

941
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: seem like how ridiculous that she feels like it's weird

942
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: that her fiance's ex girlfriend uprooted her life to go

943
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: to the same school as him, Right, that's uncomfortable and

944
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: they're forced together over and over. The scene where this

945
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: was clearest to me because there are Vivian, by and

946
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: large overreacts is too mean, goes too out of her

947
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: way to make l unhappy, like, and there's the big

948
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: plot points of like, oh, it's a costing party but

949
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: it's not actually a cost part and stuff like that.

950
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: But there is one scene in which it's another just

951
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 1: weird bizarrow like okay two thousand one kind of scene

952
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: where L shows up because she wants to join Warner's

953
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: study group, and Vivian is clearly uncomfortable, and I don't

954
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: think the movie wants us on her side, but it's like, yeah,

955
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: of course, she's like, you don't want this person who

956
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: objectively would seem perhaps a little unhinged forcing themselves to

957
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: be ready, like I'm fully on Vivian. Vivian's corner in

958
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: that scene, and she is not nice about it, but

959
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: in that particular scene, she's not overly rude about it,

960
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: and L, to her credit, takes the hint and says, Okay,

961
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go, And then this very strange thing happens

962
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: that she leaves the scene where Enid the only queer

963
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: female character we see in the movie. I wasn't sure

964
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: if it's like she had heard a rumor that Ellen

965
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: said something, or like was just making an assumption about

966
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: L based on her appearance or what it was, But

967
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: she was basically saying like whatever, like she saidn't like

968
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: like maybe there's like a sorority you can join, like

969
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: making fun of her, like you said, based on her,

970
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: like the way she presents herself in talks and looks,

971
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: and then there's a weird like, oh, wouldn't you call

972
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: me a dyke? And then l makes a very weird choice,

973
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: after just gracefully exciting a tense situation that she caused,

974
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: says I don't use that word, but Vivian probably does,

975
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: and so she's just like, um, I know I can't

976
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: be in the study group. Vivian hates gay people goodbye,

977
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: and you're just like that seems of it Like that's

978
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: because L, again, to that character's credit, does not go

979
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: after Vivian in as rude and antagonistic away that Vivian

980
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: goes after her for part of the movie. Granted, it

981
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: is a major motivation of her to take quote unquote

982
00:58:55,360 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: Warner from again, it's it's a lot like Warner's should

983
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: have been just allowed to break up with L and

984
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: be an asshole for the rest of his life, but

985
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: then we wouldn't have the movie. So right, A quick

986
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: point I want to make about the way that Enid

987
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: and Vivian, at least in the beginning of the movie,

988
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,439
Speaker 1: and then Vivian has a like a girlfriend character whose

989
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: name I don't think we ever learned, but the three

990
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: of them are all very mean to bitches, right. They

991
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: mock her the way that she looks, in the way

992
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: that she talks, which is suggesting that all of these

993
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: women who are adults and in law school are so

994
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: petty that they are judging L solely on the way

995
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: she presents herself, and you know, they're meant to be vilified.

996
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: And most of these characters come around at the end

997
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: and say I was wrong to judge you like that,

998
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: but it's basically saying, like, look how petty these women

999
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: are for no reason, which was weird to me. And

1000
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: then yeah, definitely that scene where Enid's like, you probably

1001
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: call me a and say something like weird. If you

1002
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: had come to a party, I would have been nice

1003
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: to you, which I believe because that is what we like.

1004
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: A nice character. L reminds me a lot of share

1005
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: from Clueless and even share like chair you know um

1006
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: that share no share from Clueless. Who we see share

1007
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: who is like I think we talked about on the

1008
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: Clueless episode is an example of you know, a rich,

1009
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: blonde white girl who we often see sort of vilified

1010
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: in movies, but as a nice person who's really who

1011
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: sweet and oh that's that's nectually. I didn't even thought

1012
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: of the share parallels in this movie, but there are,

1013
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: especially with the share lels, the sharp share parallels, and

1014
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: the share lels. I accept it um because at the

1015
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: top of the movie, when especially when they're on the

1016
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: West Coast, people can't start talking about how much money

1017
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: they have, where Warner's literally driving beside El in a

1018
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: convertible and she's like, I grew up in bel Air.

1019
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm not white trash, which is like, um triggered, but

1020
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: we are sort of like, oh, you know, L is

1021
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: kind of a rich bitch, which she she's rich, but

1022
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: she's not a bit and that while again it is

1023
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: not the most pressing commentary to be making in a movie,

1024
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: I think is generally positive of like L seems. I mean,

1025
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: she vocalizes several times she is aware of her own privilege,

1026
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: but still works hard and is by and large decent

1027
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: to everyone she comes into contact with. And the main

1028
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: I mean, granted, this is a very white movie, but

1029
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: we do see her come into contact with people who

1030
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: are a different class than she is via Jennifer Coolidge's

1031
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: character Paulette who is sort of like plays into this

1032
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: like white trash New England trope and l never. I mean,

1033
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: there's not even an exchange where any judgment is passed

1034
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: about her class, So you know, again it's like this

1035
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: isn't like we need to be seeing that rich white

1036
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: women can be good people. But if that is the

1037
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: protagonist of the movie, I appreciate that choice. That brings

1038
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: me to a very bizarre scene that happens in the movie,

1039
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: which is the Bendon Snap. I love the Bendon Snap

1040
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: scene and if you've seen I haven't seen it on

1041
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: Broadway because I'm not a millionaire, but I have seen

1042
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: videos of it. The Legally Blond musical is banging. It's

1043
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: really good. The Bendon Snap song rules. The Bendon Snap

1044
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 1: scene is so weird because it's sort of like, look

1045
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,439
Speaker 1: at l Woods teaching these poor women how to do

1046
01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: this weird thing. I love that thing. Well, the context

1047
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: of the scene is like that her teaching these women

1048
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: how to appeal to a man better with something that

1049
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 1: looks crazy, because it's like the bend over because you

1050
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: drop something and then snap back up and show your

1051
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: perky body and it's like really bizarre. It feels so

1052
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: out of place in the movie. But it is one

1053
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 1: of the few scenes where you see any women of color,

1054
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: but it's they're all Bendon and snap. It's really bizarre.

1055
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: And then this gay man comes out at the end,

1056
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: or someone who were supposed to perceive as being gay,

1057
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: and he says something like, oh the abndon snap and done.

1058
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: That cuts to the last ten seconds of these scenes.

1059
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: The whole scenes crazy, but the last ten seconds of

1060
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: the scene particularly baffling. It's like a woman like breakdancing

1061
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: after Benson and snapping, and then cutting to game in

1062
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 1: and like a waiters uniform and Elson bringing something out

1063
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: and being like, oh yeah, it's like, oh, Bendon snap,

1064
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: cut to two dogs panting and the scene its bonkers bananas.

1065
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:12,439
Speaker 1: I encourage rewatch of that scene. You know, if there

1066
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: is something problematic in that scene, I was too sensory

1067
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 1: overloaded to recognize it. It was just it's just a

1068
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: weird fucking scene, and to me, one of the best

1069
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: parts of the whole movie because the only time that

1070
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: Bendon is also to the point of like the scene

1071
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 1: probably should have been cut. The only time the Bendon

1072
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 1: snap scene is brought back is when Jennifer Coolidge's character

1073
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: tries it and it doesn't work. It fails because she

1074
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 1: brings we never see a successful bendon sny accomplixed a

1075
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: very long scene of it being introduced to forty people

1076
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,919
Speaker 1: for some reason, and then the one time it's brought back,

1077
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:54,959
Speaker 1: it breaks someone's nose. But she still manages to quote

1078
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: unquote snag that guy, that the ups guy who she

1079
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: was interested in, which is perhaps a comment on you

1080
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 1: don't need to do this elaborate movement to attract a mate.

1081
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: You can just, I don't know, talk to someone and

1082
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: see if they might be interested in you too. Well,

1083
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: can we can we tackle the Jennifer Coolish Yeah, because

1084
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: she's there's so many females. I mean, this is a

1085
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: good problem to have, but there's a lot here. Um yeah, wait,

1086
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: let me. We've been recording for about an hour and

1087
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 1: I still have a lot to say that because there's

1088
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 1: a whole callahan, I'm exhausted. Um, this is gonna be

1089
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:37,439
Speaker 1: a two hour episode. It can't be. I literally will

1090
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: pass out, Okay, Jennifer Coolidge, Yes, Jennifer Coolidge is our

1091
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: resident poor person in this movie. Her name is pault.

1092
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: In this movie, L meets her when she has a

1093
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: full body panic because she has you know, she's she

1094
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: needs and I do. I think character wise, she's seeking

1095
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: out something familiar in an unfamiliar place. I do this

1096
01:05:56,680 --> 01:06:01,919
Speaker 1: with eyehop everywhere I go Duncan Donuts exactly, like yeah,

1097
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 1: like I understand that. She's like, oh, this is somewhere

1098
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: that makes sense to me. It's a character based decision

1099
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense. So she meets Jennifer Cold,

1100
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: who's a nail technician at this place. Paula introduces herself

1101
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: as She's like, I'm a middle aged woman who did

1102
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: not graduate from high school. I dated the same man

1103
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: for eight years and he randomly left me. This is

1104
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: the worst blah blah blah. Like she she clearly finds

1105
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: herself to be a very tragic, irredeemable character. Didn't even

1106
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: get to celebrate my dog's birthday. Yeah right, she and

1107
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: she misses her dog and l at this point in

1108
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,919
Speaker 1: the movie is like, yeah, that's pretty freaking sad. I'm

1109
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 1: so sorry that this happens. And then Jennifer cools. I mean,

1110
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 1: her character, I would argue, top to bottom, with the

1111
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 1: exception of one scene, really does not send the right

1112
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: message at any point where right after being like, you know,

1113
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 1: she's like one of the only women over forty we've

1114
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 1: see in this movie. I'm assuming I don't know if

1115
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: she had, but like her character says, she's middle aged.

1116
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: You know, she clearly feels she is a spinster and

1117
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: without a man, even though clearly a crummy man because

1118
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: he randomly left her without a man. She has no

1119
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 1: prospects or value. L seems to agree with this at first,

1120
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: and then before we even find out the next thing

1121
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: about that character, Jennifer Coolidge says, you know, she finds

1122
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 1: out about El's predicament and it's like, well, if someone

1123
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: is haw does you can't get a man, there's no

1124
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 1: hope for the rest of us, which is like that

1125
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: one fucking sucks. And then and then she suggests you've

1126
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 1: got to steal him from Vivian, and it's just like, well,

1127
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: this character is really derailing anything positive. But she's the

1128
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 1: only poor person and the only not super young person

1129
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 1: that we and we have the professor, you know, we

1130
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 1: have other stuff, but the most main character that is older.

1131
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 1: The one scene that I would say is really good

1132
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: that she's in is there's one scene focus on her

1133
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:05,479
Speaker 1: character where she and L go to the trailer of

1134
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 1: her loser ex boyfriend, who looks and sounds like a loser,

1135
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 1: clearly irredeemable. And I remember that scene clearly, And I

1136
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: forgot a lot about this movie, but I remember that

1137
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 1: scene because of how Paula's character behaves in that scene. Really,

1138
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, like hurt my heart a little bit

1139
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: because it felt real in a movie that does not

1140
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 1: very often feel real. She's like psyching herself up to

1141
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: go and talk to her ex boyfriend. She's like, this time,

1142
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:35,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna get what I want

1143
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah, and he opens the door immediately

1144
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: is obviously dismissive, an asshole, calls her ugly, basically saying like, oh,

1145
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: let's see what I'm not missing out on, and it

1146
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 1: crushes her and she's like clearly very affected by it

1147
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 1: and starts to back down, and you know, like she's

1148
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 1: clearly planned this big confrontation and it sort of like

1149
01:08:56,680 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 1: devolves into these mumbles, and that was, like, I think

1150
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 1: it was like a beautiful character moment that was very sad,

1151
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: and unfortunately L's there and spews out a bunch of

1152
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 1: granted made up, but like we're you know, scares him

1153
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 1: enough that you know their friendship is solidified, and that

1154
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 1: L is able to get Paulette her dog back. I

1155
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 1: like that sounds a great scene to me too, because

1156
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: one you see L empowering Paulett and sort of uppresting

1157
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 1: another female character, and it's the first time you see

1158
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,719
Speaker 1: L being super lawyery, where there are a few scenes

1159
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 1: before that where she like says the right answer in class.

1160
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: That's beginning to see her kind of like, oh, she

1161
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 1: does have a knack for this laughing. And then this

1162
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 1: is a scene where you're like, oh, I do see

1163
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: her potential and she's kizing herself because even though she

1164
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: wings it, she manages to convince this guy and what

1165
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 1: she's saying is not total nonsense, almost makes total sec right, Yeah,

1166
01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 1: it's clitches. She seemed very lawyery in the moment, and

1167
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 1: we're like it still looked like at once while doing it,

1168
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 1: which is great. I loved I loved that scene. I

1169
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 1: think that that's the peak of Paulett's character, and I

1170
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 1: feel like they sell her out later by you know,

1171
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: she has a crush on this UPS guy, which do

1172
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: they say Ups like, is that product placement? I think

1173
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 1: they do yea so weird. But anyways, she you know,

1174
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 1: ends up. She has a crush on this ups guy.

1175
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 1: She breaks his nose with the bend and snap, but

1176
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: they still end up together. That I think, you know,

1177
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: like that is not a negative thing. I just don't

1178
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 1: like that. It's like, Paul, it's clearly in a lot

1179
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 1: of pain from this really bad relationship. She confronts him,

1180
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 1: she gets what she wants, and now she can use

1181
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 1: all this new empowerment to be in a relationship with

1182
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,719
Speaker 1: another man. And I just I felt like her character

1183
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: was sold out a little bit because that one scene

1184
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:51,600
Speaker 1: with her and Hell was so great for both of

1185
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 1: them that I would have preferred her to. I would

1186
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 1: have preferred to see her finish her high school degree,

1187
01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, like something like that. That wasn't just like

1188
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 1: now she does right, which maybe she did, but like,

1189
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: that's not your attention is called to Oh gosh, she

1190
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 1: broke her nose, but it is her boyfriend now, which

1191
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,679
Speaker 1: is funny. But I just like she's a b character,

1192
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 1: but I think she deserved better. I agree, And that's

1193
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: a rap on Jennifer Bold. The next character I want

1194
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 1: to talk about is Professor Callahan a k a. Victor Garber,

1195
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: and how he is a total scumbag. We start to

1196
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: get a clue of this because at first he seems

1197
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 1: like he believes in L and that he you know,

1198
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 1: he sees potential in her because she she speaks up

1199
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: in his class and he's like, oh, yeah, she's got

1200
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:46,560
Speaker 1: some good opinions. You and I value her and she's intelligent.

1201
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 1: But then you get some hints that he's maybe not

1202
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 1: so great because he takes on this case of with

1203
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 1: this this Brook Taylor murdering her husband, possibly case that

1204
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 1: he is the defense attorney for, and the whole time

1205
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 1: he's no, I'm pretty sure she killed him. I think

1206
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 1: she's guilty, and like, basically, I think we can take

1207
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 1: away that he does not respect or trust his client

1208
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 1: because she's a young and attractive woman, one who married

1209
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 1: an older man, but not for his money, basically because

1210
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,839
Speaker 1: she says flat out, because he's got a good d right,

1211
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 1: but he's just like, well, she's a woman and she's

1212
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 1: young and beautiful. Therefore cannot be taken seriously. Because later

1213
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: there's the scene where he makes a pass at L

1214
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 1: but under the pretense of like here, let let's discuss

1215
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: your future in your career. What a what a relevant scene?

1216
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 1: What a weirdly relevant scene and in otherwise not super relevant. Yes,

1217
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: he's telling her these things, and at first he's like, Oh,

1218
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 1: he's going to hire her to be a part of

1219
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 1: his law firm or something, or you know, he sees

1220
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 1: potential in her as a as a lawyer. But then

1221
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: he puts his hand on her knee, which I would

1222
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 1: argue is the equivalent of a surprise kiss. It's not

1223
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 1: a kiss, it's it's a group but it it's unsolicited,

1224
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 1: it is non consensual. And this movie does a great

1225
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 1: job of treating how this type of act should be treated,

1226
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 1: which is, don't touch me. I did not invite you

1227
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: to touch me. And in the moment that what she says,

1228
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 1: she says funk off and is clearly like and even vocalizes, oh,

1229
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 1: so you didn't mean anything you just said to me

1230
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 1: about my What I forgot about this sequence that also

1231
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 1: feels just as relevant is that we see the immediate

1232
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 1: that prompts a crisis of faith in herself. That makes

1233
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 1: a lot of sense of like, she is capable. We

1234
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 1: know that we've been watching her develop and do very well,

1235
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 1: but hearing, you know, just for the sake of this

1236
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 1: guy's fucking disgusting inability to respect a woman like she

1237
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 1: doubts everything positive she knows about herself, and it prompts

1238
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,640
Speaker 1: her to, I mean, I think, for the sake of

1239
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:57,560
Speaker 1: the plot, immediately abandon any hope of being Alwert. And

1240
01:13:57,680 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 1: and at that point we're like, well, this is a

1241
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 1: loss for everybody. Like it's just like that was who

1242
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 1: that was like kind of a devastating sequence to Yeah,

1243
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: it's sort of very closely parallels a lot of things

1244
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 1: that are happening, you know, in different industries today, where

1245
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 1: it's not unsimilar to all the women who quit comedy

1246
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 1: because Louis c. K jerked off in front of them

1247
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 1: in a hotel room, right, and all the women that

1248
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 1: like left journalism because of people like Matt Lowery and

1249
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 1: Mark Halbert, like all the women who did not go

1250
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:31,600
Speaker 1: into directing and producing because of Halvedy fucking wines, you know,

1251
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: every industry. And in this case, it's law, and I

1252
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: feel pretty certain that it probably does happen in the

1253
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: law community, which any of those industry that men are

1254
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 1: a part of. It happened, which is all industries and

1255
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 1: therefore and they're usually in charge of them too, and

1256
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 1: and seeing that play out is like really hard. And

1257
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 1: then the other thing I forgot that happens is and

1258
01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: Luke Wilson's character. You know, he's a good character. He's

1259
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:06,719
Speaker 1: a good like Emmett, middle part Emmett, feminist icon loves

1260
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 1: L is good at his job, pretty across the board,

1261
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 1: both a effective, hot and uninteresting character. The thing I

1262
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 1: thought was really cool, if from a plot sense, did

1263
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 1: not make a lot of sense, was that L goes

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01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,560
Speaker 1: to the nail salon to say goodbye, to pull it

1265
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 1: and say like I love you whatever, but this is

1266
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 1: too much. I have to go home because I don't

1267
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: believe I can be a lawyer anymore. And somehow we

1268
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 1: haven't talked about this character yet because she's really only

1269
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 1: in two scenes doing very different things. But there is

1270
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: an older female law professor who at first is very

1271
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 1: hard on L in a way that is like what

1272
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 1: But she picks her out of her class because she

1273
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 1: didn't read an assignment that L didn't know she had,

1274
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: which which I can see happening. What I can't see

1275
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: happening is her being like Vivian other character we need

1276
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 1: to meet at some point, should L be forced to leave?

1277
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: And Vivian says, yes, I think she should. I was like, well,

1278
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 1: that would never happen in a class. Why would you

1279
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: ask another student for consent to dismiss your own stiff?

1280
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 1: I can see L getting kicked out like whatever. That

1281
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: was bizarre. So so we're taught to think, oh, she's

1282
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 1: very stern, and that didn't seem like even a gendered

1283
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 1: comment because all the law professors we see are very stern.

1284
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: But the second time we see her, she somehow goes

1285
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 1: to the white trash nail salon. That seems a little

1286
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 1: bit out of the way as well. She's in the background.

1287
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, sure, but at least they make

1288
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 1: the most of that sort of baffling reveal of remember

1289
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 1: that weird scene from earlier. She's back and she has

1290
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 1: that great line of like if you're letting this, what

1291
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 1: if you're gonna let one stupid prick rue in your life?

1292
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 1: You're not the woman I thought you were, which that

1293
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 1: powers L to be like, you're right, I'm going to

1294
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 1: go back, and that's that's the sort of catalyst that

1295
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 1: makes her return to Brooke and finish the Yeah, Brooke

1296
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 1: hires her to be her defense attorney, and then the

1297
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 1: whole sequence plays out where she solved the case and wins.

1298
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 1: And I think that that was like a really cool

1299
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: choice because at that point we've already seen Luke Wilson

1300
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 1: say no, you're great, you should you should stay, and

1301
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 1: he's right. But I think that that is like kind

1302
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 1: of in the interest cassos of how a situation like

1303
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 1: this plays out. Hearing another man say you're great, you

1304
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 1: should stay, It makes sense to me that L would

1305
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: be like, thank you, I appreciate that, but it doesn't

1306
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 1: carry the same weight of a successful female lawyer saying no,

1307
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 1: you should be here, And so that I got a

1308
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 1: choked up. I thought was such a cool moment. If

1309
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 1: even if the fact that Professor strongwill high powered lawyer

1310
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 1: goes to the same white trash nails ang L what

1311
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 1: stumbles into I'm assuming in malden By accident makes no

1312
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 1: fucking sense. That was like one of my favorite moments

1313
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,719
Speaker 1: in the whole movie. Yes, I do like that. Also,

1314
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 1: not to give any male characters any credit for anything,

1315
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 1: but the sequence plays out where Callahan surprise touches l.

1316
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 1: She has the reaction that we're always hoping to see,

1317
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 1: which is like, oh, are you hitting on me bad?

1318
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 1: Immediately yeah, because he said something like what, I'm just

1319
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 1: a man who knows what he wants. And she responds

1320
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: with and I'm a law student who just realized her

1321
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 1: professor is a pathetic asshole. And she gets up, she runs,

1322
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 1: and then she runs into Luke Wilson and tells her like,

1323
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:42,720
Speaker 1: this whole thing was a mistake. Me coming to law

1324
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 1: school was a mistake. And he's like, what are you

1325
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 1: talking about? What? And then she tells him Callahan just

1326
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 1: hit on me. And he believes her immediately, and it's

1327
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: like clearly upset by the news, but does not doubt her.

1328
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 1: And then in turn, and this was like a good

1329
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 1: character moment for again, I think the not super well

1330
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 1: written Vivian character where Vivian another lots of fun convenient

1331
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 1: moments taking place in the late second into the third

1332
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: act of this movie. But just as Elwoods is surprised

1333
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 1: touched by Victor Garber, Vivian sees that touch happened, does

1334
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 1: not see what happens immediately after, which is l making

1335
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 1: it clear that that is unwelcome. So Vivian there's this

1336
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 1: moment where she's like, she confronts l and an elevator

1337
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, so you almost had me fooled.

1338
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:38,759
Speaker 1: I almost thought you were, you know, a good, capable lawyer,

1339
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: but it turns out, you know, it looks like you're

1340
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 1: fucking the professor. And that's another sort of wrench thrown

1341
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 1: into their friendship that was developing at that point. So

1342
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 1: like that's, you know whatever, that's a plot point to

1343
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:55,759
Speaker 1: Vivian's character's credit. Later in the movie, when Brooke finds

1344
01:19:55,760 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 1: out l quit, Luke wilson middle part just his part

1345
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 1: is just oiled and shining, just a beam of light

1346
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 1: is coming out of Luke Wilson's middle part in every

1347
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 1: scene he appears in. But he says, you know, she

1348
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 1: quit and the main reason she quit, which again is

1349
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 1: like credit to that character, The main reason she quit

1350
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 1: is because Victor Garber hit on her and she wanted

1351
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 1: no part of it. And immediately Vivian says, oh my god,

1352
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that I've made literally arrested developments out.

1353
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 1: I've made a huge mistake, which is good and again

1354
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 1: tracks with the character of L who even when the

1355
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 1: logline of this movie is not good. She is an

1356
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 1: honest character through, like she doesn't lie to anybody ever,

1357
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 1: and that's like sort of the part of like, that's

1358
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 1: part of her core. So it makes sense that, like,

1359
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 1: of course she would believe her because Victor Garber's character

1360
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 1: is notoriously fucking sus as hell, you know, like yeah,

1361
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,680
Speaker 1: Earlier in the movie, Vivian even makes a condiment at

1362
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 1: one point where she's like, do you ever notice how

1363
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 1: Calahan will make you get him coffee but he never

1364
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 1: makes any of the male interns get And then I

1365
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 1: have a conversation about how men are useless, and this

1366
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 1: is sort of the spark of the beginning of their

1367
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: friendship because they kind over like Warner being an idiot,

1368
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 1: men being useless and her being a little weightless bit yeah,

1369
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 1: I love. Then the catalyst that gets Vivian to turn

1370
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 1: around from like hating L is that she sees L

1371
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 1: sort of protecting the client because you know, there's the

1372
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,679
Speaker 1: whole thing with her alibi and like, I can't reveal

1373
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 1: what my albi is because it would ruin my career.

1374
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 1: And I was like, sure, I will. I will keep

1375
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 1: your secret as safe as I can, and Vivian's like

1376
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:50,839
Speaker 1: that was actually pretty classy, so that makes her respect

1377
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 1: l and opens the channel for that like made me

1378
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 1: feel great. I've had not to be like this is

1379
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:01,640
Speaker 1: like my fucking life right now, but I've had experiences

1380
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 1: like that tour. It's like you just get off on

1381
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: the wrong foot with someone, usually because of a man,

1382
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 1: and then later like realized that perhaps the man is

1383
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:15,600
Speaker 1: the big fucking idiot, and it is good and we

1384
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:18,839
Speaker 1: can be friends even though we're different. That scene really

1385
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 1: did it for me. Loved that scene and was a

1386
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 1: good moment for Vivian. I just Vivian at the beginning

1387
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 1: of this movie, just like she. I feel like her

1388
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 1: character is exploited to set up fun scenes. I don't

1389
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 1: think that it is something that tracks with her character

1390
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 1: to be like it's a costume party, see you there.

1391
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 1: I mean that from a studio notes standpoint, is because

1392
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 1: people want to see Reese Weather's been dressed up like

1393
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,600
Speaker 1: a bunny. That is why they managed to fit it

1394
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: into the plot. But sort of at the expensive Vivian's

1395
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 1: character in that moment. I think there's a few other

1396
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 1: clues that so this is I think it's worth noting

1397
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 1: that this movie was written by two women, Karen McCullough

1398
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 1: and Astin Smith, and it's based on a novel written

1399
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 1: by another woman, Amanda Brown. However, it was directed by

1400
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 1: a man, Robert Luke Headick or something, and I think

1401
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 1: there are clues sprinkled throughout the movie that it was

1402
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 1: in fact directed by a man. Basically, the opening montage

1403
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 1: of the movie is this whole thing where people are

1404
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 1: signing a card for L, which is basically just like

1405
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:26,799
Speaker 1: congrats on probably getting engaged tonight, which doesn't end up happening.

1406
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 1: And um, there's all these shots of her sorority sisters

1407
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 1: and sometimes they're wearing next to nothing and they're in

1408
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 1: a steamy bathroom getting showers or they're like exercise. They're

1409
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 1: just like sexualized and their shots and the like, Yeah,

1410
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 1: the whole visual medium, like the way women, the way

1411
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 1: the sorority girls are framed is very exactly how you

1412
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,480
Speaker 1: think the sorority girls will be framed. Nothing is subverted,

1413
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 1: which is weird because I think the whole point of

1414
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 1: the movie is to sort of try to subvert the

1415
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 1: stereotype of you know, a on sorority. Yeah that that

1416
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 1: L's character is, Yeah, but they're like, but actually all

1417
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 1: these other sorority girls, they're still all white head her

1418
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 1: own ormies who are hot and blonde, and we're going

1419
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: to frame them like they're basically pieces of meat wearing bikinis.

1420
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 1: Speaking of bikinis, there's another scene where l is like

1421
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 1: outside sunbathing in what's probably like September October in Boston,

1422
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 1: which is not appropriate weather to be sunbathing in, but

1423
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 1: she's got this k babe, but can be. I don't know,

1424
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 1: it's just but like I advocate, the point is she's outside,

1425
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 1: she's wearing like a sequin bikini or something. It's basically

1426
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: to like show Warner what he's missing out on because

1427
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 1: he's playing football with like all these other dude bros

1428
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:55,839
Speaker 1: outside and they all just like basically stopped playing football

1429
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 1: and just leer at her for a good twenty seconds,

1430
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:01,679
Speaker 1: and she just gives this smile like, Yeah, I'm glad

1431
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 1: that you're all leering at me. And it's like a

1432
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 1: weird choice. I just did the most cursory amount of

1433
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,879
Speaker 1: research on this director possible and found out some truly

1434
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 1: insane information. If you don't like so. Director Robert Luketic

1435
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 1: was first of all, was when this movie came out

1436
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 1: the first major director, young director. He was given this

1437
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 1: opportunity because of a short film he had that went

1438
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 1: to Sundance. Which what an exciting male experience to do

1439
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 1: one fucking thing and then be given a massive opportunity. Wow,

1440
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 1: what an amazing thing. That will never happen to us.

1441
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 1: But the movie that he debuted at Sundance and other

1442
01:25:48,520 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 1: places was called titsian A Booberini. Just again here what

1443
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 1: I said the first time. At age three, Robert Lukendick

1444
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 1: made an eleven minute movie cop Titsiana Booberini. And people

1445
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:18,599
Speaker 1: saw Titsiana Booberini and he said, this guy's going place

1446
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:26,719
Speaker 1: give him off features losing my money, Titsiana Booberini. And

1447
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:30,719
Speaker 1: so I was like, well, what could Titsiana Booberini be about?

1448
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 1: And it's not what you think it's about, but it's

1449
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 1: still bad. It's about shaming women for a different part

1450
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 1: of their body than the title Titsiana Booberini. Would wouldn't

1451
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 1: fly this. This sounds fucking crazy. It won Best Film

1452
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 1: at Aspen Shorts Fest. It won all these awards, and

1453
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 1: without Titsiana Booberini, we don't have legally blonde crazy, which

1454
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 1: you know, maybe was an original working title Bouberini to Okay.

1455
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 1: It's a musical comedy with the story focusing on Titsiana,

1456
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 1: an Italian checkout girl at a suburban supermarket who is

1457
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 1: ridiculed by her fellow employees for her stute upper lip,

1458
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 1: meaning she has a dark she has like a light mustache,

1459
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 1: as do I let us vote right. So so it's

1460
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 1: about a girl with a dark upper lip. The resolution

1461
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 1: to this eleven minute film, Titsiana, is that it's a

1462
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 1: weird Italian joke Titsiana Booberini. There, Titsiana gains new confidence

1463
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 1: and acceptance when she discovers a hair removal treatment, and

1464
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:51,759
Speaker 1: so she it's sorry, that was the most insane Google

1465
01:27:51,920 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 1: experience life, Titsiana Booberini. What else is there to say?

1466
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 1: We wouldn't have this, so we cannot possibly consider legally

1467
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 1: Blonde a feminist masterpieces Bustle dot com would lead us

1468
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 1: to believe, because it wouldn't exist without Titsie on a Booberini,

1469
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 1: I can't. He also directed Monster in Law, which is

1470
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 1: a j Lo romcom, which is my ship. Also, Jane

1471
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:20,759
Speaker 1: Fonda shines in that movie. It's not a good movie.

1472
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. But it wouldn't happen with that, TITSI. No,

1473
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 1: I cannot believe that. Okay, okay, we're good. Hey yeah,

1474
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 1: its officially on the movie officially longer than definitely because

1475
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 1: the movie is only an hour and thirty six minutes,

1476
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 1: which I appreciate. Keep it tight, I love a short movie.

1477
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:42,520
Speaker 1: Keep those TITSI on a booberies nice and tight and hairless.

1478
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 1: But what the fun? That's crazy, Titsian. Just a few

1479
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 1: final thoughts. Yeah, blond, I know it's so late and

1480
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 1: we're dying. I wanted to say that Aristotle gets mentioned. Yeah,

1481
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:02,559
Speaker 1: that was exciting, but we were like Aristotle, shout out

1482
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 1: to our producer Aristotle. Also, I we touched on this before.

1483
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 1: But there's only really three main male characters, Warner Emmett,

1484
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 1: which is Luke Wilson's character, and Callahan Victor Garber. The

1485
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 1: rest of the characters with speaking roles, of which there

1486
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 1: are many many many are women, which is great. But

1487
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,719
Speaker 1: I would say before we call this a women's movie,

1488
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 1: we have to call it a white woman's movie. Yes. Absolutely.

1489
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 1: The only really notable woman of color in the movie

1490
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 1: is the judge, which is great. Yes, that is great.

1491
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 1: There were However, many opportunities for other characters to be

1492
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 1: women of color, other students in law school, women in

1493
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 1: her sorority women anywhere else in the movie. There. Fortunately,

1494
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:53,640
Speaker 1: there's no lack of women in this movie, no excuse

1495
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 1: for them to not be women of all shape sides,

1496
01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 1: of colors and in that van. And we've already touched

1497
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:03,839
Speaker 1: on this too, but there are two notable queer characters

1498
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 1: in the movie, and neither of them really get fair treatment.

1499
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 1: The movie is really subscribing to, like some pretty problematic

1500
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:14,639
Speaker 1: stereotypes in the way that they portray the lesbian character Enid,

1501
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:19,720
Speaker 1: and the gay guy's name is Salvator, right, um, because like,

1502
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 1: the gay guy knows about fashion and that's what incriminates him,

1503
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 1: and the lesbian is like this shrewy woman studies male

1504
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 1: hating feminists perfectly right where especially Enid character falls into

1505
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 1: I mean, both of these characters are literally handicapped by

1506
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:42,600
Speaker 1: their own queerness by the plot where Salvator is not

1507
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 1: able to pull off his little scheme because of his queerness.

1508
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 1: In a scene that I do think it's very funny,

1509
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 1: where Luke Wilson's like bla blah blah blah blah, blah,

1510
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:54,759
Speaker 1: what was your boyfriend's name? And then he's like, whatever

1511
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 1: is the Chuck? Chuck? And then Chuck is there there,

1512
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 1: He's like what the hell. It's like, Chuck, why are

1513
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 1: you because why are you playing party to this? Chuck?

1514
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:06,679
Speaker 1: You deserve better than this Chuck. Salvatore is a little sneak,

1515
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 1: but because he says something like I misunderstood. He's just

1516
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 1: a friend of mine. And then and then Chuck stands up.

1517
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 1: He's like, you bitch. It's like, wow, Chuck is drawn

1518
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 1: aline in the which Chuck deserves better obviously, we also Chuck,

1519
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 1: why are you there, buddy? Like is it a money thing?

1520
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 1: That's the only thing that you're thinking? But his Salvatore

1521
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 1: is literally handicapped by his own queerness. Bad Enid. She

1522
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 1: does not fail in the movie. Isn't quite in the

1523
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 1: spectacular fun way that Salvator fails, but you really don't

1524
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 1: see her speak in a scene where she just she

1525
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 1: can't stop talking about the fact that she's a lesbian,

1526
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 1: like she's just like it's a cartoon character. Although I

1527
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 1: did I enjoy the moment where she's talking to Luke Wilson,

1528
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 1: who is I guess at this I think the movie

1529
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 1: tricks you into thinking that he's a law student, and

1530
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:57,719
Speaker 1: then later there's this reveal it's like, no, he's actually

1531
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 1: an associate at this No, he's just hanging out with

1532
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 1: a bunch of law kids. A whole anyway, So he's

1533
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 1: in with a bunch of students and you know, it

1534
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 1: is talking to him and she's like, oh, the whole

1535
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 1: semester is a male term. I'm gonna petition for them

1536
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 1: to be called oh Vester's from now on. And I

1537
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 1: was like, that's the type of thing that I would

1538
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 1: probably say, so I get it, or I would at

1539
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 1: least tweet as a joke. But anyway, Um, the very

1540
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 1: few people of color in this movie, the very few

1541
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:33,720
Speaker 1: queer characters you see, are not done justice at all

1542
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:36,720
Speaker 1: by the movie. I will say that I enjoy that

1543
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:40,679
Speaker 1: there are several female characters and most of them are white,

1544
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 1: who are law professors at the most prestigious school in America.

1545
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:48,799
Speaker 1: The prosecuting attorney in the courtroom scenes is a woman.

1546
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 1: The courtroom as with most interesting But it's like, you know,

1547
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily like a statement to have a male

1548
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 1: salon with a lot of female characters that are certainly

1549
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:00,439
Speaker 1: not a statement to have a sort already full of

1550
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:03,599
Speaker 1: a lot of female characters. The courtroom thing felt like,

1551
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 1: oh cool, yeah, she's a woman, and the prosecuting attorney

1552
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 1: who does most and granted she's clearly poisoned. This character

1553
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 1: who does not, like many of the characters in the movie,

1554
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 1: take l seriously and whenever she's like, yeah, let this

1555
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 1: first year law student, but trying to defend her to

1556
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 1: find that kind of point L's outfit, you know, it's like,

1557
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:30,759
Speaker 1: it makes sense, it makes it's not an illogical Okay,

1558
01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 1: do we have anything else to say before it passes

1559
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:39,160
Speaker 1: the Bechtel test? Obviously? In fact, I stopped. There are

1560
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:41,719
Speaker 1: many scenes where women are talking where they are talking

1561
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:45,439
Speaker 1: about any number of male characters, oftentimes Warner and some

1562
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 1: other people. But I stopped. I stop being able to

1563
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 1: even keep track of the scenes where women are interacting

1564
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 1: and saying things that passed the Bechtel tests, which is

1565
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 1: because there are so many. My only criticism is that

1566
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:58,120
Speaker 1: this movie has trouble. I can't I don't even know

1567
01:33:58,160 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 1: if it's like the issues, They're just not enough male

1568
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 1: characters to have this be an issue for them as well.

1569
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:05,640
Speaker 1: But the movie is like not great at naming their characters,

1570
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 1: but there are so many, so it takes a while

1571
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:11,679
Speaker 1: for it to pass our version of the test because

1572
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 1: there story sisters don't have names, But it passes handily,

1573
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:20,719
Speaker 1: although there are several times where two women are talking

1574
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:23,720
Speaker 1: to each other but they're being really mean to each other,

1575
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 1: which like, I don't like that. But there's like one

1576
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 1: see in particular where like Vivian says to L, nice

1577
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 1: outfit when she shows up in the bunny costume, and

1578
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 1: then L says, thanks, you too, accept that when I

1579
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 1: dress up as a frigid bitch, I try to not

1580
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 1: to look so constipated, and it's like, wow, feminism. And

1581
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:45,599
Speaker 1: then and then the last line is you have the ring.

1582
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 1: You're just like, oh, how does this scene? The other

1583
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 1: thing I did want to say about that is that

1584
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 1: I really I feel like we were robbed of a

1585
01:34:56,200 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 1: scene where L and Vivian kind of reconciled because it

1586
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:04,280
Speaker 1: leaves off where Vivian realizes she's made a huge mistake

1587
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 1: because she misinterprets what she saw happening between Callahan and L.

1588
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 1: But then we don't really get to see any sort

1589
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 1: of apology or reconciliation there kind a minute out of

1590
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 1: the forty five bended snap sequence and give us that. Yeah,

1591
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:23,800
Speaker 1: I also would have speaking to let's write Vivian a

1592
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 1: little bit better. I would have liked to see Vivian

1593
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 1: confront Warner as well, because because clearly there's a lot

1594
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 1: to unpacked there, and we found out midway through the

1595
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 1: movie that Vivian doesn't take Warner seriously either. Shall we

1596
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:48,240
Speaker 1: write the movie, Bob, Yeah, I'm gonna give it. I'm

1597
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:50,680
Speaker 1: gonna say this is like a three nipple or like

1598
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 1: a lost blood. I've also lot of blood this week.

1599
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 1: My larynx is literally torn to shreds. Anyway, Okay, so

1600
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give this movie three nipples. Um, it might

1601
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 1: deserve higher and might deserve lower. I'm not really sure.

1602
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:10,000
Speaker 1: To me, it's still like it's a movie in which

1603
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 1: the character in the third act is very empowered and

1604
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:16,759
Speaker 1: she ends up realizing the thing that she was pursuing

1605
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 1: for the wrong reasons is her calling and that she

1606
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:21,800
Speaker 1: is good at it and that she is passionate about it,

1607
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:25,719
Speaker 1: and that's great. However, the whole first very long chunk

1608
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 1: of the movie is her pursuing something for the very

1609
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 1: wrong reasons. So that's a little frustrating to watch. Also,

1610
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 1: we had the whole discussion about a movie that's kind

1611
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 1: of trying to like dismantle and subvert the tropes and

1612
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 1: the stereotypes of a blonde, hot sorority girl, which she's

1613
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 1: also but because the movie is just so fucking pink

1614
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 1: to me, it almost reads is like those like big

1615
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 1: brand pens that were like these are for women because

1616
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 1: they're pink, and it's like, there's a movie for women

1617
01:36:57,520 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 1: because look how pink it. There is a level ref

1618
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 1: feinism to this movie that isn't as egregious as it

1619
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 1: could be, but it's present. It's there, The product placement

1620
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:17,960
Speaker 1: is there. I'm with you, you're both having a stroke. Um, so, yeah,

1621
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 1: there's certainly some problems. I do like the third act

1622
01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 1: of the movie, when basically there's the whole turn of

1623
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:26,760
Speaker 1: her coming into her own but not necessarily abandoning who

1624
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 1: she is as a person. But she's empowered and she's

1625
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:35,800
Speaker 1: found her calling accidentally slashed by stalking her ex boyfriend.

1626
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:39,280
Speaker 1: But it works out, so that's good, I guess. Yeah.

1627
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 1: So three nipples, one of them belongs to Bruiser, the

1628
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:47,680
Speaker 1: dog love Bruiser. I usually hate movie dogs, as you know.

1629
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Bruiser should have been a cat,

1630
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:54,120
Speaker 1: in which case I would have given the movie eight nipples,

1631
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:56,759
Speaker 1: and all of them would have been to the bruiser

1632
01:37:56,760 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 1: of the cat in cat facts or whatever whatever I

1633
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 1: usually say. But one of them goes to Bruiser and

1634
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 1: the other two one to pull it, And I'm going

1635
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 1: to give one to Professor Stromwell, the strong independent woman

1636
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 1: who empowers l at the end to not quit law

1637
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:25,800
Speaker 1: school and to be the lawyer she was meant to be. Yes, Queen, Queen, Yes,

1638
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:32,920
Speaker 1: we love it. I'm so tired. Okay, So what do

1639
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 1: I have left? What do I have left? We're so

1640
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 1: close to the end. Do I have left in my

1641
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:42,760
Speaker 1: body that it's stolen from me? At this point I

1642
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:46,080
Speaker 1: think I decid my having crises. Okay, I have to

1643
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:49,639
Speaker 1: give this movie two and a half nipples. As much

1644
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:52,640
Speaker 1: as I do genuinely like it and think it's generally

1645
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 1: it is coming from the right place, I would be

1646
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 1: lying if I said that, Oh God, what is the

1647
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 1: name of the movie again? Legally blond No, no, no, no,

1648
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:07,599
Speaker 1: the movie You just forgot what we've been talking about.

1649
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:12,360
Speaker 1: I've been bullshit. No, the iconic film that came before it,

1650
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:19,639
Speaker 1: uh Titsiana boober I would be lying if I said

1651
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 1: that the reveal that Titsiana Booberrelli led to this movie

1652
01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 1: The Man didn't impact my general view of it. I

1653
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:30,880
Speaker 1: hope in affectors do. That's a pretty horrifying rug to

1654
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:34,639
Speaker 1: have pulled out from underneath you. It's like finding out

1655
01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 1: that like Moanna wouldn't have been made if there wasn't

1656
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:45,000
Speaker 1: like Dick Rangers. For like the director of Dick Rangers

1657
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:47,760
Speaker 1: four hadn't made a snapchat video that had won an

1658
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 1: award It's Sundance. I just it's upsetting. My main issue

1659
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 1: with this movie for all the little stuff we picked

1660
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:59,360
Speaker 1: apart which is valid, not to make our job sound useless.

1661
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 1: That Sagan bitching we just did moment one. I don't

1662
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:07,480
Speaker 1: like the message this communicates to its very young audience

1663
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:13,040
Speaker 1: that an appropriate way to deal with a breakup as

1664
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 1: a young person is to not accept a breakup. That

1665
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:23,000
Speaker 1: is such a horrible idea. And I embarrassingly did this

1666
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 1: exact thing in high school because I'd seen movies like

1667
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:29,960
Speaker 1: this where it works out for me. I took a

1668
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:32,600
Speaker 1: bus to Connecticut. It did not work out. It was

1669
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 1: deeply embarrassing. I think about it easily once a day there.

1670
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:40,160
Speaker 1: But I mean, like speaking to that larger thing, I

1671
01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:44,600
Speaker 1: am not alone in having done something like that because

1672
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:48,440
Speaker 1: of movies like this that convey the message just basically

1673
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:54,200
Speaker 1: empowering unhealthy behaviors. And even though it is positive, obviously

1674
01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:58,240
Speaker 1: the el's plan to win warnerback does not work out,

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Speaker 1: and does not work out for the right reasons. The

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Speaker 1: fact that she still does have this new, fulfilling life

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Speaker 1: because of this deeply flawed, problematic plan is just not

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Speaker 1: a good message to be sending to children who don't

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Speaker 1: know anything. Just remember, they will believe what hot people

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Speaker 1: tell them. Like that's just how children very easily influenced.

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Speaker 1: And the reason we do this podcast is because movies

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Speaker 1: do have a significant impact on our the way that

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Speaker 1: we yeah. So the fact that so many movies portray

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Speaker 1: romantic relationships is like or breakups is like, well, the know,

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Speaker 1: the way I'm going to win him or her back

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Speaker 1: is to stock them for a long time. And sometimes

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Speaker 1: in movies that works and it's like it happened, And

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Speaker 1: I can't think of an example top of dumb, but

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of examples of men doing this

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Speaker 1: to women in movies as well, probably more. It's just

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Speaker 1: not good. It's like right up there with my least

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Speaker 1: favorite movie setups, right up there with the let me

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Speaker 1: kidnap and re educate a woman and then we'll be

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Speaker 1: in love. They're just I just don't like the foundation

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Speaker 1: of this movie. To me, along with Tensiana, Boobarella is

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Speaker 1: deeply flawed. I can't deal with it. L Woods, I

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Speaker 1: think it's an awesome character. Most of the female characters

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Speaker 1: have elements of great characters but are not fully fleshed out,

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Speaker 1: possibly because the narrative is a little saturated with a

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Speaker 1: lot of characters. Anyways, I like the movie. I'm so

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Speaker 1: tired two and a half nipples. I've given one to Elwoods.

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Speaker 1: She fucking earned it. I'll give a nippy to pull

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Speaker 1: it as well, because she deserved better. And I'll give

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Speaker 1: my last half nip to Vivian. No no inspired awards here,

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01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:49,000
Speaker 1: just giving it to people who are in them. Well. Also,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to known I literally had a physical response

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Speaker 1: to you, says, so that's our way, way, way, way

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Speaker 1: too long, and I'm sorrnest I not sorry. You, just

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Speaker 1: so you know, this is a far better product than

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Speaker 1: we were originally delivering, which is us drunkenly slowly about

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Speaker 1: how we like Titanic. Yeah, so for maybe a half hour,

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Speaker 1: and you're welcome that you're not listening to that garbage,

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Speaker 1: physically winded, just like, yeah, we got to go to

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Speaker 1: bed time. I hope you enjoyed this. I think you should.

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Speaker 1: You you fucking should. That was a lot of nuances

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Speaker 1: we did. We didn't. In fact, I feel like if

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Speaker 1: we had cut it any shorter, we would have left

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Speaker 1: out some valuable discourse. So here we are giving it

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Speaker 1: to you straight, to all you, marian. We'll try not

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Speaker 1: to make all their episodes this long, but hey, they

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Speaker 1: don't care. Who knows what will happen? Do you love

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Speaker 1: it to it? They're sick? All right? Well, yes, I

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Speaker 1: hope you're not too tired. Happy, happy New Years and

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Speaker 1: good time tidings to you, good job wah and a

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Speaker 1: happy bality. So that was our unlocked Matron episode, available

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Speaker 1: now on the main feed on the film legally Blonde,

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Speaker 1: And we don't get used to it. Don't get used

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Speaker 1: to it. All the other ones are. They're staying there,

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Speaker 1: they're they're locked in the Disney vault, except the Bechtel

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Speaker 1: the Bechtel Vault. But yes, thank you for listening. We

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Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed it. It was fun for us to

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Speaker 1: revisit as well. Um and just like there's no better

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Speaker 1: like legally it's a good time to watch legally Blonde,

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Speaker 1: and now in history's darkest hour, it's a fun time

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Speaker 1: to watch legally Blonde. Indeed, so thank you for listening. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You can find us online in all the normal places.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on Instagram and Twitter at Bechtel Cast.

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Speaker 1: You can of course join the damn Matreon Patreon dot

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Speaker 1: com slash Becktel Cast. There's other stuff. I just remembered

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Speaker 1: another theme we did, Revenge bur Oh yeah, every every title.

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Speaker 1: The titles are horrific. I love them so much. There's

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Speaker 1: but we've done a lot and then and then we'll

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Speaker 1: also do like annual Oscar roundups and stuff like that,

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01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 1: so a little a little more niche fun stuff going

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Speaker 1: on over there. Um, So I hope you enjoyed this,

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Speaker 1: And you can also get our merchant t public dot

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Speaker 1: com slash the Bechdel Cast, and we'll see you next week.

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Speaker 1: Gang ye