1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving from Clay Travis, buck Sexton and everyone here 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: at the EiV Network. You're listening to the best of 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and buck Sexton. Welcome in our number two 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. As we start off the 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: second hour here, try to be as honest with you 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: guys on a daily basis as I can, so you 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: can imagine this morning when I was going through the 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: mail and I see that I have received buck for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: the first time ever and irs audit notice. Now I 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: bring this up because one of the first things I 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: was told when you and I started this show in 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one was expect that you will be you 13 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: will be audited every year when there is a Democrat 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: in office. And I kind of just laughed it off. 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: I was like, Eh, you know, I've never been audited before. 16 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: I'm not anticipating that I will get an audit notice 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: going forward. I mean, I'm forty four, I've been filing 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: tax returns for twenty five, twenty six years, whatever it 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: is at this point, and I got an audit notice 20 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: this morning. I saw it on my counter. They come 21 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: in the mail for those of you who have never 22 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: received one, and we now have a meeting that's going 23 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: to be scheduled with an IRS agent in the future. Now, 24 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: a couple of things that immediately jump out to me. 25 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 1: I'm not independently wealthy, so my parents never made more 26 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: than fifty thousand dollars a year. 27 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: So it's not like. 28 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: I've got hundreds of millions of dollars in assets that 29 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: I inherited sitting off at some offshore account that I 30 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: haven't been paying taxes. Pretty much, I pay taxes on 31 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: what I directly earn. In fact, that's pretty much the 32 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: case in general. My wife does not make a massive income. 33 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: Everything that I pay is something that I have made 34 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: in my own life. I haven't inherited some massive sum 35 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: of money that's making my tax returns complicated. And so 36 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: I don't think that there's any way that this is 37 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: coincidental that I've been doing talk radio for fifteen years. 38 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: I've been in the media, primarily sports media, for a 39 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: long time, and over the last decade or so, I 40 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: started to make pretty good money. Didn't have a lot 41 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: of money, you know, a decade or so ago, I 42 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: started to make pretty good money. So it's not like 43 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: this is the first time where I've ever turned in 44 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 1: a tax return and had to pay a lot of taxes. 45 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: And I have paid a lot of taxes. Trust me, 46 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: When I write that check for the IRS, it definitely 47 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: creates heartburn because I know that it's going and mostly, 48 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: in my opinion, going to be wasted by the federal government. 49 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: I think I could use it better, but I know 50 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: a lot of you feel that same way. But this 51 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: is I think, just emblematic of the two years of 52 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: justice that exists. Because as soon as I saw this audit, 53 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: I couldn't help but think, wait a minute, Hunter Biden, 54 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: the President's son, has refused to pay taxes for multiple 55 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: years on millions of dollars in foreign income that he 56 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: got trading on the Biden name. And he's actually even 57 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: got the audacity this week to write an editorial to 58 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: USA Today arguing that he's being targeted because of his 59 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: politics and it's being weaponized against him, and that they're 60 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: taking advantage of his drug addled state to try to 61 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: make him look like a criminal. And I just sit 62 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: here and I think, Wow, the IRS knows what I 63 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: do for a living, And as soon as I enter 64 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: into politics officially and start to talk about politics in 65 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: a way that could be a threat to the administration 66 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: and power. Joe Biden. I am imediately get an IRS 67 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: audit notice notice. But Hunter Biden cannot even file a 68 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: tax return for years can oh eventually millions of dollars 69 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: in back taxes that he doesn't pay off and nothing 70 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: happens to him at all. And me, who just sits 71 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: here talking on a radio show, gets hit with an 72 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: I R s audit the very worst year that I 73 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: joined the show. 74 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: It's worse than you say. 75 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: And and I'm sitting here, of course, and of you know, 76 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 3: not not to make this. You know, I'm I'm ride 77 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: or die with my buddy Clay, no matter what. So 78 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 3: as soon as he got this, I was like, oh man, 79 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 3: that sucks. But then within about half a second, I 80 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 3: was thinking, you know. 81 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: Let's hope. 82 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 3: Not let's hope, not, let's hope not you know, just 83 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 3: little old me, you know, leave me alone. 84 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: I R. 85 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: Clay. 86 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 3: It's not just what you said, though, it's actually worse 87 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: than that, because a huge part of of all of this, 88 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: of where you know, when people are being harassed by 89 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 3: the government or being you know, investigated by the government, 90 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 3: audited by the government, is. 91 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 2: Whether or not you kind. 92 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 3: Of get into the mix in the first place, right, 93 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: whether you get on the radar. I guess you could say, 94 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 3: it's not like you're on the radar and it's just political. 95 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 3: And Hunter never made it to the radar. Hunter was 96 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: on the radar. 97 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 4: And they looked and he clearly did not pay taxes, correct, 98 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 4: and they sat to run out the statute of limitations. 99 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 2: For his benefit. 100 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: Correct. 101 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 3: So this is not just like Clay gets audited, but 102 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 3: like Hunter didn't. Oops, because they'll say that's just the 103 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: luck of the draw. No, no, no, there's no luck 104 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 3: of the draw here with regard to Hunter. 105 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: Hunter. 106 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 3: They was clearly doing first of all, the tax evasion. 107 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 3: Probably could get him on moneylaundering too. I mean, if 108 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: they want to do no doubt completely completely you know, 109 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 3: gone after a thrown the book at him. But instead 110 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: of that, they they basically I mean they protected him, 111 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: right because if whoever's investigating it on the federal side, 112 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 3: if they sit and they say, well, we're just gonna 113 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 3: not do anything for five years and let this expire, 114 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: that's it. That's all she wrote. Now no one else 115 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: can come along. It's effectively as good. It's like a 116 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 3: de facto pardon is what they did for him on 117 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 3: the tax charges at least the worst, the most serious 118 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 3: of the tax charges. And yeah, no, there's no there's 119 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 3: there's not gonna be ay out or bider administration for you. 120 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, and he didn't even file, right, I mean, 121 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: I filed, I paid a ton of taxes. I'm confident 122 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: in my team, but we're still going to have to 123 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: spend probably several hundred thousand dollars to go through the 124 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: process of sitting down with the ira S agent. To 125 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: your point, Buck, the process is the punishment in many ways, 126 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: like the fact that they make you go through this 127 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: of course is designed to create the punishment to let 128 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: them know that they can do it to you. I 129 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: don't think it's coincidental, Like I said, that this happened. 130 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: And by the way, many of you have been listening 131 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: to Rush for a long time know that Rush was 132 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: audited by the IRS all the time as well. In fact, 133 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: I had when I texted the staff and said, hey, 134 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: guess what happened, they said, oh, let's go back, we'll 135 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: find Rush talking about this. Here is a from the 136 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: archives Rush talking about being targeted by tax enforcers as well. 137 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: So I've been audited every year in New York since I. 138 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 5: Moved out, the last three years five, six, and seven, 139 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 5: and I just got another request for documents. That is 140 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 5: the most outrageous form of harassment. I've already proved to 141 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 5: them fourteen different ways where I have been in this 142 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,679 Speaker 5: country every day for the last three years. Fourteen different 143 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 5: ways they have asked for things. 144 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: It's just it's it's it's. 145 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 5: Nothing more than pure political harassment. 146 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: Now I feel fortunate that I live in Tennessee, so 147 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: at least, you know, like in the good state of Tennessee. 148 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: But this is the federal government that is, you know, 149 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: trying to put down their big foot of justice on me. 150 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: And again I'll just point out I had a big 151 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: radio show for a long time when I was doing sports, 152 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: making good living. Nobody like paid attention to me at all. 153 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: Suddenly I come on this show and I start saying, hey, 154 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's a crappy president, and Joe Biden's IRS Department Boom, 155 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: we get the audit notice. 156 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: You know, with with rush as you heard there. 157 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: It was actually I mean, I'm sure it was also 158 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 3: the Feds, you know, the IRS, but it was New 159 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 3: York state, right, which you know, so now this hits 160 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 3: home for me as somebody who has left New York State. 161 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 3: And now I feel like every day I want to 162 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 3: do the show and do a stream where people could 163 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 3: see it, like, hey see the palm trees, folks, see 164 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 3: the palm trees. 165 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: I'm in Florida. 166 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 3: I am not in New York just because New York 167 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 3: is the most aggressive state about this and is only 168 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: going to become more aggressive because people have had enough 169 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: and they recognize that that you know, the certain the 170 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 3: goods and services that they think they're paying for is 171 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 3: not really what they're getting. That the management of particularly 172 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 3: New York City has been has been deplorable. 173 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 2: Can we use that word again? 174 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 3: I feel like they they you know, that word got 175 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 3: used for other things, but has been deplorable in recent years. 176 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: And and what you see is that in New York, 177 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: instead of saying maybe we should want to bring high 178 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: earners back in, or we want to change the tax 179 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 3: structure and make things more friendly for people who are 180 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: trying to build, well, what New York does is we're 181 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: just going full Stazi. Now, you know, We're we're just gonna, We're. 182 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: Gonna In California, too. 183 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: They're talking about tracking you down if you leave California 184 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: and trying to make you pay California state income tax. 185 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 3: Well they've California is even discussed trying to do like 186 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 3: retroactive taxes, saying years. 187 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 2: Which is just I mean, it's just insane. 188 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 3: Look, it's it's the kind of thing that I think 189 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 3: eventually would make its way up to the Supreme Court. 190 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 3: It's clearly unconstitutional, but these states are desperate, you know. 191 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 3: It was just, you know, our friend Carol Marcowitz Clay 192 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 3: was on her podcast which is on the Clay and 193 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: Buck network, which is fantastic. You should subscribe to the 194 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 3: Clay and Buck podcast network just by going on the 195 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 3: iHeart app and you'll get all these podcasts. And she 196 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 3: was on that show. She was on, or rather she 197 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 3: played a clip, sorry, she played a clip of Cuomo, 198 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 3: former Governor Cuomo, bemoaning what New York is doing, which 199 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 3: is chasing You don't need to lose that many high 200 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 3: earners in New York City before you can't pay the 201 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 3: massive state budget that it currently has. And you add 202 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: into that twelve billion dollars plus of expenses for the 203 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: migrants that have arrived in New York that you know, 204 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 3: the illegals that are all their expenses are being paid 205 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: by the taxpayer, and you realize you've got you've got 206 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 3: a real problem. So, you know, people, I'm just gonna 207 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 3: say this, in a free society, people should not live 208 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 3: in constant fear of the tax authority. You know, there's 209 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 3: something to be said problem here. In a free society, 210 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 3: people who operate in good faith, who are trying to 211 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 3: pay their taxes should always feel like, all right, it's fine, 212 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 3: I pay taxes, you know, maybe, but they don't feel 213 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 3: that way here. And they don't feel that way here, 214 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 3: not just in the federal level, depending on the state 215 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: you're in, at the state level as well. And that's 216 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 3: there's something really it's really wrong. There's something deeply unjust 217 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 3: about the way this functions now in the fact that 218 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 3: there could be political that there is political targeting as well. Oh, 219 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 3: it's an accident that they audited rush like ten years 220 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 3: in a row in New York please, or it's an 221 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: ad like whatever you think about me. There's no way 222 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 3: that a supervisor didn't google hey, what does Clay Travis 223 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: do for a living before? If they didn't know already, 224 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 3: I don't think I look put it this way. I 225 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 3: don't think the irs agent who is doing my audit, 226 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 3: I'm going to sit across the table from him, and 227 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: he's going to say, I love the show. 228 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: I listen to the show every day. You are amazing. 229 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: I bet he's going to be a died in the 230 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: wall Biden Democrat voter. And I don't think it's a 231 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: coincidence that my name gets pulled for the first time ever. 232 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'd like to start doing you can be like, 233 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: you get to do the whole Hey man, what's your 234 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 3: favorite what's your favorite football team? 235 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 6: Are you root for? 236 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 2: And then it's gonna be good to go. 237 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 3: You know, if it's me, I'd be like, sir, does 238 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 3: noise bother you as well? 239 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: You know I don't have that. 240 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: I think this guy probably hates me, and I think 241 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: his supervisor probably hates me. And you know why, because 242 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: we're right and they're wrong. But it's definitely designed to 243 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: actually create the message, Hey, we're paying attention, we will 244 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: be difficult. You shouldn't have spoken out like you have 245 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: showed spoken out. I just I refuse to believe this 246 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: is a coincidence. 247 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody, Clay and Bucks show, and uh, we're 248 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 3: gonna get into some interesting news the next hour, Clay, 249 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 3: can I have Can I have permission to talk about 250 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 3: something that is completely and utterly frivolous and unseerious for 251 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 3: I think I think. 252 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: There's probably a lot of people Buck that would love 253 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: something completely frivolous and unserious. Uh, in general, right. 254 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: Now I kind of needed. 255 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 3: I mean, I'll be I'll be honest, like I I 256 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 3: I don't want to go back like I got it was. 257 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 3: The first hour is a little emotionally taxing. Yeah, I mean, 258 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: you know, so so with with you know, if I may, 259 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna hard turn here to just we're just we're 260 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 3: just gonna take a breather together, everybody. We're gonna take 261 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: a breather together and talk about something has nothing to 262 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 3: do with anything of any importance whatsoever. I thought it 263 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 3: was just, you know, something that we could all take 264 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 3: a moment with that. 265 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 2: It's Uh, there's a there's a. 266 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 3: Program or a contest that they hold at the cat 267 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 3: My National Park and Preserve in Alaska for fat the 268 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 3: Fattest Bear. 269 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: Have you seen this? 270 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: I love this, I love fat It's Fat Bear Fat 271 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: Bear Week. 272 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: That's right. Fat Bear Week. 273 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: They say that they have found their fat bear and 274 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 3: that the fat bear is quote a queen that's thicker 275 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 3: than a bowl of oat meal. 276 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: So this is. 277 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 3: They do this because the bears, as you all know, 278 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: they fatten up for the winter and they go into hibernation. 279 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 3: So they have these these grizzly bears that get to 280 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: their absolute I mean, as a as a human, this 281 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: would be kind of fun, right, think about this. Imagine 282 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: if your job, Clay was to just get truly as 283 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 3: fat as possible, knowing that you're then going to get 284 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: to take a nap for like four months or whatever 285 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: it is, wake up and be skinny like you got 286 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: a six pack when you wake up. But your job 287 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: is to get as fat as possible. And they they 288 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 3: found this this one mom. They said thicker than a 289 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 3: bowl of oatmeal, which I just think is a funny 290 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 3: way to put it. And yeah, I'm trying to find 291 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 3: out what the actual weight of the fattest bear for 292 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: Fat Bear Week is. 293 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm I'm worried about becoming a fat bear myself as 294 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: we go into the winter, and I bet there's a 295 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: lot of people out there thinking about this too. I'm alright, 296 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: So I'm going to Florida later tonight because it's fall break. 297 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: And I told you about this right when I went 298 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: to the water park with the boys, and and I'm like, 299 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: it's not a good combo to be somewhat famous. I 300 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: would say I'm maybe more infamous than famous and fat 301 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: and at a water park. So like my goal for 302 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: the my goal for the coming season of water park them, 303 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: which will start in the South, probably at least with 304 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: my boys, like April or May. I gotta I gotta 305 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: take some LB's off. So I have some sympathy for 306 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: the fat bear getting ready for Fat Bear Week. Imagine 307 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people out there who have sympathies 308 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: as well. 309 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 3: Sometimes I kind of feel. 310 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: Like the fat bear. 311 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's you know, we've all been there, right, 312 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 3: But it's it's a bit of a bit of a 313 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 3: celebration of bears who are just kind of living. They're 314 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 3: living their best lives, eating a lot of salmon, very 315 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 3: high in omega threes. You know, does the samon does 316 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: sound really good? The challenge where I am in Tennessee, 317 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: you know, there's bear spreading everywhere. Buck there's so much 318 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 3: food now that bears, a lot of them don't hybrid 319 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 3: anymore like they did. 320 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: Did you know this? 321 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: This has become an issue they end up with diabetes. 322 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: I swear I think I'm correct on this. Like in 323 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: the Gatlinburg area Smoky Mountains, there's so much extra food 324 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: there now, dumpsters, everything else. The reason they hibernated was 325 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: it used to be hard for a bear to find 326 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: enough to eat, so they would go sleep and hibrinate. 327 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: Now they can find food year round. But they're eating 328 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: so much that not only are they becoming fat, but 329 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: they're getting like way more fat in their diet. And 330 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: I think we're actually giving bears diabetes. I swear I'm 331 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: not making this up. I think this is actually occurring 332 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: all over the Smoky Mountains. 333 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: Now bears can get diet. 334 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: I think I'm going to put our Crack research team 335 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: on it. I don't want to misinform everyone, but I 336 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: believe that bears can get diabetes. 337 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: I think that happens. 338 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 3: I feel like there could be some fat bear shaming 339 00:16:58,640 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 3: going on right now. 340 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: Fat Bear fourteen hundred pounds buck our Crack research staff. 341 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: I think that bear may have diabetes. I'm just tossing 342 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: it out there. 343 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I think that Bear just has a Netflix 344 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 3: subscription and knows how to get to the freezer. 345 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: Reasonly, welcome back into Clay and Buck. 346 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 3: We're joined now on the eve of Veterans Day by 347 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 3: our friend Frank Siller of Tunnel to Towers. Yesterday was 348 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 3: the grand opening of the Tunnel to Towers Houston Veterans Village, 349 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 3: a fully converted one hundred and sixty one room hotel 350 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 3: that will provide permanent and transitional housing as well as 351 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 3: services to more than one hundred homeless veterans from Houston 352 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 3: and surrounding areas. Frank, thanks so much for being with us, 353 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 3: and thank you for all the work you do. 354 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 7: Well. Thanks for having me on today. And yeah, it 355 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 7: was it was spectacular. We had over thousand people show 356 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 7: up because you know, the community has really vested into 357 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 7: what we're doing. And you know, Dennis Quaid and Andy Pettitt 358 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 7: were there and they're both you know, from Houston, so 359 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 7: they and they've been very much involved with us at 360 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 7: the foundation, so they were there to show their support 361 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 7: and it was a beautiful day. But most importantly, we 362 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 7: got over one hundred homeless veterans into these permanent housing 363 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 7: for most of them, and some transitional for the younger 364 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 7: guys because we want them to transition out back into society. 365 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 7: So it was a beautiful day, no. 366 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: Doubt, Frank. I appreciate you coming on with us. The 367 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: amount of work you guys are doing is incredible, and 368 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: I know you've got so many different projects that you're 369 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: working on right now. But I had the good fortune 370 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: to be with you at Liberty National and one of 371 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: the things that you're focused on now is trying to 372 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: really go after homelessness in the veteran community. For people 373 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: who may not have heard about what you're doing in 374 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: that arena, explain what your concept is and what you 375 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: guys have been capable of achieving already and where you 376 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: can go from here. 377 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 7: Okay, well, we're so proud of it, and you're right, 378 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 7: So I want everyone you listen is to oh, because 379 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 7: I'm sure many of them already do the eleven dollars 380 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 7: a month, you know, to make sure that we take 381 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 7: care of all the catastrophically injured service members and first 382 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 7: responders in gold Star, that families that have someone dies 383 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 7: in line of duty, that leave young families behind, so 384 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 7: and to prove was still doing that we paid off 385 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 7: fifty mortgages or built delivered fifty mortgage free homes today 386 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 7: today for a Veterans Day. So I want people to 387 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 7: know that we're fully committed. We're never not going to 388 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 7: do that. Every five fight, every cop, every first respond to, 389 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 7: every gold Star family that you know, have young families 390 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 7: died in the line of duty, We're going to take 391 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 7: care of them forever. And that includes the catastrophically injured 392 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 7: with the smart homes. So that is why we did 393 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 7: fifty houses today. That being said, there is a tremendous 394 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 7: homeless problem amongst our veterans and it's just unacceptable. You 395 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 7: know that on the battlefield, our men and women in 396 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 7: uniform would never leave anyone behind, So why is it 397 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 7: that they come back into the States and we're leaving 398 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 7: them on the street. It's disgusting, it's disturbing, and it's 399 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 7: just not right. So we you know, we've been watching 400 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 7: it for years, and we've been talking about it for 401 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 7: years to do it, and now we are you know, 402 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 7: started over the last year plus and we're proud to 403 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 7: say that this year alone, think about this, this year alone, 404 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 7: three thousand homeless veterans into their own residents, and and 405 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:32,719 Speaker 7: we get them to wrap around comprehensive services they need. 406 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 7: And so what does that mean comprehensive services, because we 407 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 7: know we just can't put a roof over the head 408 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 7: because at one point they did have a roof over 409 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 7: the head and they and they weren't able to assimilate 410 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 7: back into society. So we get them employment assistance, job 411 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 7: training benefits assistance because a lot of them get benefits 412 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 7: and you could use them for you know, for the 413 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 7: rents and and and and other things. Educational assistants get 414 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 7: the back you know, some of them back at school, 415 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 7: the a certain amount of credits away from college and 416 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 7: and you know, get get them in a place where 417 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 7: they could get a better get a job or a 418 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 7: better job, and financial budget management, legal advocacy, medical care access. 419 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 7: They don't even know what they have. A lot of 420 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 7: these guys, well, they don't have the help that needs 421 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 7: them to get to the point where they could get 422 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 7: everything that they need. Medically, and of course mental health 423 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 7: support and counseling, not only for PTSD, for addiction and 424 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 7: for other things. And there's a lot of mental illness, 425 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 7: but it all mainly comes from PTSD. As we will know, 426 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 7: because of what they did, you know, serving our country. 427 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 7: So we have these on site. So this village that 428 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 7: we have in use in its state of the art. 429 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 7: So we have we have like three flows. The first 430 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 7: floor is all these services that I just mentioned. We 431 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 7: have them on site on site and we're close to 432 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 7: pretty close to a VA center to take them to 433 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 7: get them all the you know, uh, you know, benefits 434 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 7: and assistance that they need, metal care that they need, 435 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 7: and it's just a beautiful way to get them back 436 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 7: into society. So they have their own apartment, It has 437 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 7: a kitchen, it has a bathroom, it has a bedroom, 438 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 7: and their own TV. It gives them back some respect, 439 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 7: you know, and dignity and hope into their lives. And 440 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 7: we hope to give them back their lives. So we're 441 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 7: not only doing that, we're building these five hundred square 442 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 7: foot what I call comfort homes and give these great 443 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 7: heroes back some comfort. And these are mainly for the 444 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 7: older let's say, Vietnam War veterans that had been on 445 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 7: the street for god knows how long and it's and 446 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 7: we're putting them in these villages so they have we 447 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 7: have these you know, renovated hotels and now in the 448 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 7: parking lot in the joining area we have in Euston. 449 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,719 Speaker 7: We're doing approximately twenty of these comfort homes and creating 450 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 7: a village with a common area and people can grill 451 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 7: and people. You know, it's a great place for people 452 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 7: to heal together. They were crying yesterday, these veterans that 453 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 7: we're moving in. They were crying. They said, you don't 454 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 7: know what we've been living in. You don't know the 455 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 7: cock cockroach infested and rat infested and the kind of 456 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 7: what they were living on the street. It was disgusting. 457 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 7: And they're in and they're crying. They said, oh my god, 458 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 7: I can't believe it. And so many people care. They 459 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 7: got hope and dignity back. And I tell you, it 460 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 7: was just it was just a beautiful day. 461 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 3: We're talking to Frank Stiller Funnel the Towers, an amazing 462 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 3: organization that we're very proud to be partnered with. 463 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 2: Here on this show. 464 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 3: Frank, you did the Houston Veterans Village event yesterday. Just 465 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 3: give us a sense of what some of your plans 466 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 3: are going forward into the end of the year here 467 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 3: and for next year to help our veterans and keep 468 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 3: our sacred vow to support our veterans and what T 469 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 3: TWOT is going to be up to. 470 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 7: Well, we're doing this all over the United States. We're 471 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 7: buying different hotels. We everyone Atlanta, Detroit, and we just 472 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 7: got a big piece of property in Pennsylvania, Florida. We 473 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 7: just land being donated to US in Florida to build 474 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 7: these type of ground up facility. But it's all over 475 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 7: the United States. A lot of it is warm climate 476 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 7: because that's where a lot of homeless veterans are, because 477 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 7: you know, it's it's said to say it's easy then 478 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 7: to survive in a warmer climate than a colder climate. 479 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 7: But we have a national case management network. So let's 480 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 7: just say, for instance, I don't have a village. I 481 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 7: can't have a village everywhere in the United States. You know. 482 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 7: Will I have fifty of them? Yeah? Will I have 483 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 7: one hundred of them? Absolutely? Will I have two hundred 484 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 7: and fifty, no doubt about it. But I won't have 485 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 7: five thousand of them. And there's homeless veterans all over. 486 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 7: So I have a national case management and we work 487 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 7: with the VA and when we find out about a 488 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,959 Speaker 7: homeless veteran and sometimes they're not even on the street, 489 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 7: you know, they only really want a chronic homeless person 490 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 7: to be you know, described as a homeless person out 491 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 7: there for six over six months, it's say a year 492 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 7: or two years before they really can get the help. 493 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 7: But we'll take somebody that's on the street that they 494 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 7: might not qualify as a homeless person with our national 495 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 7: case management network. Let's say for three months they're out there. 496 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 7: You go on the street for three months, you're homeless. 497 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 7: I'm concerned, and we can get them into their own 498 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 7: apartment right away, work through the VA, help them get 499 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 7: a voucher and you know VA, you know through HUD 500 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 7: subsidized subs, you know, through HUD and and the VA system. 501 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 7: UH to get them into an apartment, and yes they 502 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 7: put some money towards it, but we want them to 503 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 7: UH and once again, we want them to assimilate back 504 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 7: into society. But we have our case managers. This is 505 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 7: a beautiful part about Tunnel to Twers. Employees from Tunnel 506 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 7: to Tallers professionals work with these great heroes to make 507 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 7: sure they're getting everything that they have to get to 508 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 7: once again assimilate back into society. I'm not just putting 509 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 7: a roof over the head. It's not enough. It's not enough. 510 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 7: It's the way it used to be done. Some other 511 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 7: great organizations have been working very hard on it for years. 512 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 7: I tipped my hat to them. This is the way 513 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 7: that it has to be done, and we are going 514 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 7: where to eradicate it. I should say, your listeners and 515 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 7: Fox are going to eradicate it because these are the 516 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 7: ones that are donating eleven dollars a month. Once you know, 517 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 7: you go to T twot dot org eleven dollars a month. 518 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 7: It's incredible when you have, you know, a million people 519 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 7: come together. How much that is per month, and we 520 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 7: make sure that we take care of these great heroes. 521 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: Frank, you're doing great work. I will see you in 522 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: Nashville next week. I know we're gonna help do some 523 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: more events there. But there are a lot of people 524 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: out there who are veterans as we get ready for 525 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: Veterans Day and need the help. You can check it 526 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: out at T two T dot org. Frank, see you 527 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: next week, my man. 528 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 7: I'll see you next week. Come us. 529 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: We are joined by Vince Vargas, former US Border Patrol agent. 530 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: His book Borderline, Defending the Home Front has an inside 531 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: look at the US Mexican border through the eyes of 532 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: a former US Border Patrol agent who also served in 533 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: Iraq and Afghanistan. Vince, I'm sure you're seeing and hearing 534 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: all of the discussion about fentanyl coming across our southern 535 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: border and the impact it's having in the country. If 536 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: you were given the opportunity to address this issue, what 537 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: is the best way to try to make the border 538 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: more secure and also stop the flow of illegal drugs 539 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: through our country? What should happen, what would work based 540 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: on your experience. 541 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 6: That's a loaded question, complex as it comes, but it's 542 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 6: multiple different layers. Right, We are incentivizing a lot of 543 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 6: the illegal immigration that comes across, and so when you 544 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 6: do that, it causes mass influx, which actually makes it 545 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 6: harder to stop things like drug smuggling because the inundated 546 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 6: agents on a border don't have enough personnel to cover everything. 547 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 6: On top of that, you know that it's Chinese drugs 548 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 6: kind of are coming across. It's been proven to come 549 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 6: across up through the southern border and through the cartels, 550 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 6: who even the cartels themselves are not happy about at 551 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 6: the moment, but they're still making money off it. And 552 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 6: so it's a very complex question comes down to just 553 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 6: securing our borders, right, having more personnel on the borders, 554 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 6: having more support systems on the borders as well as 555 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 6: you know this, this whole thing with the illegal immigration 556 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 6: of bodies just creates more chaos down there, so it's 557 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,719 Speaker 6: harder to manage. 558 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,239 Speaker 3: Vinceitz Buck, thanks for being with us and appreciate your 559 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 3: service with the Army seventy fifth Ranger Regiment in Iraq 560 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 3: and Afghanistan. 561 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 2: As we're looking at Veterans' Day here tomorrow. 562 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 3: You might have heard in the debate, and it's come 563 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 3: up actually before as well as some of these candidates, 564 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 3: the idea of using US military special forces to go 565 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 3: after the cartels, cartel leadership. 566 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 2: And you know, the most violent. 567 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 3: Arms of the cartel in Mexico. What do you think 568 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 3: about that as somebody who's been both on the border 569 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 3: patrol side and a part of special operations. 570 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's an interesting take on the whole thing. When 571 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 6: I hear that, it's a little confusing and not sure 572 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 6: how I'd want to address it, to be honest with 573 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 6: you know, Mexico is a counterpart of ours, obviously, we 574 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 6: share a border together. I'm always curious to why Mexico 575 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 6: doesn't take a stronger stance, but as well as in 576 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 6: like deterring the cartel, but I also know the corruption 577 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 6: and what happens when someone does stand up against the cartel. 578 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 6: You know, they're easily just taken out or killed and 579 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 6: then someone else has to take that place. And so 580 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 6: for having us do the work or at least military uh, 581 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 6: moving into that space, I think it could be effective. Yes, 582 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 6: I get My concern is I don't think so much 583 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 6: on the military only mindset anymore, being the fact that 584 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 6: I've worked on the border and understanding that mission, there's 585 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 6: also the humanitarian side of the whole border side that 586 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 6: becomes a qu question. And so I think, you know, 587 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 6: whatever means necessary takes to control the smuggling side of 588 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 6: the world would be what we should look at. Using 589 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 6: special operations Obviously they get the job done. It comes 590 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 6: down to is the country of Mexico really interested in 591 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 6: us being a part of that and wanting to support 592 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 6: and help them, or is it just kind of you know, 593 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 6: lip service when saying that. And so that's really my 594 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 6: whole thought possis of keeping the relationship between US and 595 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 6: Mexico in a good standing so it doesn't cause further 596 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 6: issues because they are a neighboring country of ours, and 597 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 6: I think keeping that relationship is super valuable and important. 598 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: We're talking to Vince Varga's former US border patrol agent 599 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: Soldier as well. Book is Borderline Defending the Home Front, 600 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: an inside look at the US Mexico border. Given what's 601 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: going on with the resurgence of terrorism in the Middle 602 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: East and how wide open our southern border is, how 603 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: concerned are you about some of these terror groups sneaking 604 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: people across our southern border in order to do terror 605 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: attacks here in the United States? Based on your experience 606 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: as a border patrol agent, you think that's likely to happen. 607 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: Do you think that is happening, and how much of 608 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: a concern would it be for you? 609 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I've living on both sides of this 610 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 6: kind of conversation and is very, very fascinating. Because of 611 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 6: my experience in the military, I always have known that 612 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 6: there are people that come from the that are smogglming 613 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 6: through the southern border, UH that are connections to Iraq 614 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 6: and Afghanistan. So that's a that's something that is known, 615 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 6: and so I've always had that in the back of 616 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 6: my mind. The concern is with the massive influx of 617 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 6: illegal immigration that happened and the lack of really documenting 618 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 6: or knowing who is coming across UH definitely raised the 619 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 6: question we know it's a weak point, they know it's 620 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 6: a weak point, and so they're definitely using it as 621 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 6: a means of entering people who probably should not be 622 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 6: in our country. That doesn't that doesn't mean that some 623 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 6: of the people, you know, some of the people come 624 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 6: across are have good intention, they're just doing it wrong. 625 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,719 Speaker 6: But there is small pockets of those individuals who are 626 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 6: coming that definitely have ties in connections to parish organizations. 627 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 6: That's proven. There's some that we have caught already, and 628 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 6: so that's concerned. It makes me feel as if there's 629 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 6: a potential and this is you know, the side of 630 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 6: the tactical brain of mind would say, the potential for 631 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 6: America being the next uh, you know, Trojan horse, if 632 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 6: you will. We are taking on a lot of illegal 633 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 6: immigrants that we can't identify who they are, which which 634 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 6: raises a question what is the intentions of some of 635 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,479 Speaker 6: these individuals, and so you know that is always going 636 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 6: to be something of concern. I think why we have 637 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 6: homeland security stood up after nine to eleven, and why 638 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 6: we need to start addressing the massive influx of immigration 639 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 6: that's happening currently. 640 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 3: Check out check out Borderline defending the home Front, and 641 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 3: as we approach Veterans Day, here again, thank you for 642 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 3: your service and the arranger regimen Vince appreciate you. 643 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 6: Yeaes sir, thank you so much.