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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With

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Speaker 1: Welcome to tech stuff. My name is Chris Poulette and

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Speaker 1: Sitting over across from me, playing with his blocks is

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Speaker 1: senior writer Johnathan. Pretty women out walking with gorillas down

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Speaker 1: my street. From my window, I stare while my coffee

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Speaker 1: goes cold. Look over there, where here comes Minecraft. That's

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna talk about, all right. It was my

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Speaker 1: my MPR version, and it's Minecraft. It's good. We have

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Speaker 1: had so many requests, mainly on Facebook from fans who

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Speaker 1: really wanted us to talk about Minecraft. Um and a Minecraft,

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Speaker 1: in case you do not know, is a game that

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Speaker 1: on its surface seems pretty simple, but as you learn

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Speaker 1: more about it, you realize that this is actually a

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Speaker 1: pretty incredible and complex game. You just if you look

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Speaker 1: the basic idea of what you're supposed to do, you

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Speaker 1: I would say to that person, So let's talk about Minecraft.

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Speaker 1: So Minecraft started right around May tenth, two thousand nine,

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Speaker 1: so it's just over a year or two years old

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Speaker 1: when we record this podcast. Yes, actually, I'm assuming that

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Speaker 1: under about the game. Minecraft is developed by Marcus Person.

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Speaker 1: It's been under developments. It's about May tenth, two thousand nine,

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Speaker 1: So that's that's his best guess. Yeah. So yeah, Marcus

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Speaker 1: was Wasn't that the the guy who came out of

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Speaker 1: the Earth right at the end of The Incredibles, No,

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Speaker 1: that's the under Miner. No. Actually, it was a game

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Speaker 1: the stuff that you dug up um, which actually sounds

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Speaker 1: That was actually under development for very very short period

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Speaker 1: to do something similar. Yeah. And and the concept of

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Speaker 1: had similar kind of of concepts. Minecraft though, does this

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Speaker 1: blog for Minecraft. That's the that's the main choice right

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Speaker 1: now is Las Vegas. But then there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: people who are saying, hey, but I want to go

431
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Speaker 1: to I want it to be closer to where I live,

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Speaker 1: so put it, you know, somewhere else. Um. And so

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Speaker 1: they're talking about like the post bility of it being

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Speaker 1: a this this convention of Minecraft players who all get

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Speaker 1: together and and share notes essentially about things that they've

436
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: created and ideas that they have, uh, both for what

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Speaker 1: is possible in the game right now and what might

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Speaker 1: be possible in the future. Um. There are new elements

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00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: being added to the game all the time, including things

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Speaker 1: like environmental elements. So it's not just a static world

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Speaker 1: that only has daytime and nighttime. Um. There's there are

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Speaker 1: more elements to it than that. But I wish you'd

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Speaker 1: never shown me that BBC video with the animals nighttime, daytime,

444
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Speaker 1: nighttime anyway, Steve, Um, Yeah, it's a it's a an

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00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: interesting phenomenon to me. I'm wondering. You know, you mentioned

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Speaker 1: the connection to Nintendo, at least as far as gameplay

447
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Speaker 1: is concerned. What I'm wondering is if they can if

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Speaker 1: Minecraft can avoid the pitfalls that Nintendo fill into, which

449
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Speaker 1: is that Nintendo had a problem in that people would

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Speaker 1: adopt it really quickly. Casual gamers adopted the game. But

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Speaker 1: one of the issues about casual gamers is they're not

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Speaker 1: the kind of gamers who will go out and buy

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Speaker 1: the next game as as frequently as hardcore gamers do.

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Speaker 1: Like casual gamers, they don't play the game games as

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Speaker 1: often as frequently. So they might have a collection of

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Speaker 1: four or five games, and that's good for them. They're

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Speaker 1: fine because they don't play it that frequently. They're not

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Speaker 1: getting tired of it, or they may just forget about

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Speaker 1: the the system entirely and it just kind of sits

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Speaker 1: off to the side. It doesn't get played very much. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And then the problem with that is that Nintendo doesn't

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Speaker 1: have an ongoing stream of revenue because they're not selling games.

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Speaker 1: And part of that issue, players might argue is that

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Speaker 1: Nintendo kind of hurt when it came to compelling games

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Speaker 1: for the Wei. There just weren't as many of them

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Speaker 1: out there as there were for the other systems. According

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Speaker 1: to some gamers, I happen to be one of those,

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Speaker 1: But I'm just saying I know that there are other

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Speaker 1: points of view out there too. Um, but if Minecraft

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Speaker 1: can avoid that where you you don't have people suddenly

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Speaker 1: lose interest or maybe not even suddenly, but gradually lose

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Speaker 1: interest and then the game just kind of suffers for it.

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Speaker 1: If they can avoid that, I would really be curious

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Speaker 1: to see what comes out of this game in the

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Speaker 1: next couple of years, because what it really tells me

476
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Speaker 1: is that there are some incredibly creative people out there

477
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Speaker 1: who are really really good at thinking outside the box.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to use that, but then I realized

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Speaker 1: it was too late. The cube outside the cube and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, like I said, if you want to really

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Speaker 1: see what's possible in Minecraft, just go to YouTube and

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Speaker 1: type in Minecraft, and you're gonna see dozens and dozens

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Speaker 1: of videos, some of which are you know, some of

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Speaker 1: them are going to be those typical little videos where

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Speaker 1: you watch it and like, I don't even see what

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Speaker 1: the point of that was. But there are other ones

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Speaker 1: that are really really impressive, where people have built these

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Speaker 1: complex mechanisms where you hit a switch on one side

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Speaker 1: of the map and a door all the way on

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Speaker 1: the other side. Of the map, but these maps can

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Speaker 1: be enormous. Us. Uh, door on the other side of

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00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: the map opens and you think, wow, that's you know,

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Speaker 1: it took a lot of work to create that. Now

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Speaker 1: you might also ask what was the point of that?

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Speaker 1: But you know, that's another element I would I would

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Speaker 1: be curious to see if they start building into in

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Speaker 1: things like creating a device that that triggers something essentially wirelessly.

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Speaker 1: Like you create a transmitter and a receiver and they

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Speaker 1: are unique to one another, so only one transmitter will

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Speaker 1: activate a specific receiver, and then you put that receiver

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Speaker 1: on a device where when the receiver receives a signal,

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Speaker 1: it triggers an electrical electric chain of events that will

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Speaker 1: cause something to happen. I thought would be a cool

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00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: thing to add in there. Yeah, definitely. What will it

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Speaker 1: help you fend off the spiders? Um? I was thinking

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00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: of a thing that when you hit a switch, then

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Speaker 1: across the room, uh, funky Town would play, and Spider's

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00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: love of dancing to funky Town, so you could actually

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Speaker 1: distract them long enough to squish them. There are records

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00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: in Minecraft, and you can put them into a jukebox. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you can build a jukebox and play and play music,

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Speaker 1: which again I find that fascinating. Um So yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's it's interesting to see there. There are a lot

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Speaker 1: of games, indie developed games that UH have provided a

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Speaker 1: good launching pad for other series or for the career

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Speaker 1: of a developer. I think it's safe to say that

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Speaker 1: um not is probably doing is it's probably going to

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Speaker 1: get a lot of attention out of the Minecraft phenomenon,

519
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: because I don't think it's even remotely close to being

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Speaker 1: extinct at this point. I think it's still on the

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00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: rise and will be sure. Yeah, I mean it's right now.

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Speaker 1: I would say it's still kind of a fringe thing

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Speaker 1: that Minecraft hasn't reached UH full blown UH awareness in

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Speaker 1: the market. Um it's more so than when I first

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00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: discovered it ages ago, but it's one of those things

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Speaker 1: that I think it's still kind of a relatively small

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Speaker 1: community of the potential community this game could have. So

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00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure that over time we're gonna see even more

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Speaker 1: people discover and adopt this game and create even more

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00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: amazing UH creations in this world. And not to mention

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00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,959
Speaker 1: the fact that you know you're gonna keep seeing the

532
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: world itself evolve over time, and you're gonna have to

533
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: you You'll have to be more creative because the game

534
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: will become more and more difficult to uh to navigate

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00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: if you don't engage those creative muscles in in the

536
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: old noggin. So yeah, I definitely think that this is

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Speaker 1: something that that UM has a lot of room to grow.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if it's something that you could see on consoles,

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00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: perhaps um as something you can download um you know,

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00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: or or maybe even acquired by one of the major developers.

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00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure Again, I just heard some of the Minecraft

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00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: fans out there who prefer yeah, no, well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it bears some similarity to some

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Speaker 1: other games that kind of got the strong community around them,

545
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: like a little Big Planet. It reminds me a lot

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Speaker 1: of that as well. So I could definitely see the

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00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: potential for for our consoles to be interested in it, uh,

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Speaker 1: although depending on the executives for those consoles, right, because

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00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: if the executives are all tied up about graphics and

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00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: and uh that kind of element, like I wanted to

551
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: look really really good, it has to look state of

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00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: the art, they might not be able to get past

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00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: the fact that these characters are much more blocky and

554
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: almost comedic really in their appearance. Uh, but that that

555
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: simplicity is deceptive, like we've been saying. So maybe there's

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Speaker 1: some executives out there who can look past the blocky

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00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: aspect of this game and see it for what it

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00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: really is, and then yeah, who knows, you might be

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Speaker 1: able to get a cool version on one of the

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00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: console games. Although the problem you have there is how

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Speaker 1: do you host the worlds? Do you host the world's like,

562
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: do you have it where you would be able to

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00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: create servers like you can and Minecraft, or would everybody

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00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: share in the same big virtual world, because then you

565
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: would have the troll problem becomes enormous, you know. Or

566
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: maybe you have a region in that world that's just

567
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: yours and you can give keys to the people that

568
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: you like and they can come and check out your stuff.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, these are problems that I

570
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: would be thinking of, because I wouldn't I would hate

571
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: to spend a lot of time and creativity and building

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Speaker 1: something and then come in and lug in the next

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Speaker 1: day and just see that some some jerk had gone

574
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Speaker 1: in and totally taken out half of it. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at you jerks. You know who you are.

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Speaker 1: On the other hand, yeah, I would never have expected

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Speaker 1: Angry Birds to do as well as it has and

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00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: be available on all the different platforms it is, especially

579
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Speaker 1: since it is many people say, a clone of a

580
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: different game. I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to say

581
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: the name out loud or else. It's summons them the birds. Yeah,

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00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: the pigs, No, maybe a coincidence. Does you know Minecraft

583
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: has pigs? There you go. It's all part of a plot.

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00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: Is it's a swine plot? All right? Well, the way

585
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: this wine flew, you know, I was about to say

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00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: that's the weird thing about Angry Birds. It's not the

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00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: swine that flew. Anyway. We're gonna wrap this up because

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00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: we're getting a little loopy in here. So you guys,

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00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: if you have another specific topic you want us to

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Speaker 1: talk about, and uh, and if you have not seen Minecraft,

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00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: I do urge you to check it out. It is

592
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: pretty neat, neat, you know, it's it's especially for people

593
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: who like to build stuff. It's neat for you guys.

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00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: So all you guys out there who love legos and

595
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: things like that, check it out because it's got a

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00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: lot of potential, but if you have a specific topic

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