1 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: What is up? Welcome to another edition of the NFL 2 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Fantasy Live Podcast. It's been your man named G Marcus Grant, 3 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: and I'm sitting here in the studio all by myself. 4 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: Grand Barfield is on vacation this week. Michael Fabiano a 5 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: little bit uh under the weather, so wishing him the 6 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: best to speed recovery and he will hopefully be back 7 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: with us real soon. But uh, I may be alone, 8 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: but I'm not necessarily lonely. We'll have a guest coming 9 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: up who will take me most of the way through 10 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: this show, so get ready for that. We got plenty 11 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: to talk about. Will do a hype trainer, smoke screen, 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: would do a little bit of uh, just fun rankings, 13 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: nothing really serious, because why be serious all the time. 14 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: But before we get too far into would want to 15 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: quickly go behind the glass and talk to our fancal producer, 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: Senior Edward L. Murphy. Esquire Murphy, what's going on? This 17 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: is a strange one. We have a three man team 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: here and two of them are down. So just meet 19 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: you today and a and a special guest coming up. 20 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: But I am I'm finally in the fantasy football mode 21 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: of me being the commission of my league, setting up 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: the draft times and uh figuring out like you know who, 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: any rule changes this and that. So I'm I'm excited. 24 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: You know, we had the Hall of Fame game, so 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: it is actually back football is here. It is a 26 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: thankless job being a fantasy league commissioners. The best the 27 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: best part is it's it's uh what a twelve team league, 28 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: eleven East Coasters, so you're the only one out here. 29 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm only can ever like five am on a Saturday draft. Yeah, 30 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: it's great. Oh man, that sounds not good at all. Um, 31 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: speaking of folks on the East Coast to go to 32 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: the phones, are are good friend, friend of the program, 33 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: just friend in real life as well. You can read 34 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: him at the Athletic. Here's a pair of podcast, Sports 35 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: Unsealed and the All in Sports Podcast. It's Jake Sealey. 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: You find him on Twitter. All into Jake. What's going on? MANU? 37 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: Not too much. I'm glad that I'm kind of the 38 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: special guest on a solo day because I like you 39 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: better and the other two anyway, So I appreciate that. 40 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: You know, we will keep that between us. Um, you 41 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: know we won't. We won't. We won't promote that as 42 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: the you know, the headline for this podcast or anything 43 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: like that. Um. So in the meantime, and he let's 44 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: do some news, huh, Jake, we will start down in Houston. 45 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: The Texans they let go Deante Foreman after a couple 46 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: of seasons. Obviously he was dealing with an achilles tear, 47 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: was trying to bounce back from that. Um I know, 48 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: Jake that a lot of folks are looking at this 49 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: and sort of thinking that the Texans aren't going to 50 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,839 Speaker 1: stand pat with just Lamar Miller. But as we talk 51 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: right now, he is the lead back. It seems like 52 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: he will never die back there. So are we feeling 53 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: confident about him? I think the confident is always a 54 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: vague answer with him. It's like, it's confident we know 55 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: what we're gonna get with Lamar Miller. But it's the 56 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: Lamar Miller of it. You don't ever have somebody out 57 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: of your draft excited and going yeah, I got Lamar Miller. 58 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: It's always the uh, Well, I guess they'll take him 59 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: because that's the last of the group. But let's be 60 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: honest about him. I mean, last is the group. He's 61 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: a fringe RB two. If there's the a war of 62 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: attrition of some injuries that running back he'll finish as 63 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: a mid RB two as he did two years ago 64 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: if he plays sixteen game and if not, he'll be 65 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: in that range. But that's the thing is you're taking 66 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: him as an RB three. You know he's gonna get 67 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: those touches. I'm with you. And the fact that I 68 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: think they do something, I actually don't think it need 69 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: to look outside the team. If it's hig didn't crock 70 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: it behind him, that would be even better for us 71 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: as fantasy owners for those that do have Lamar Miller. 72 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: But we know what Lamar Miller is. He's a fine 73 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: third running back. He's a fine second running back. If 74 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: you went wide receiver heavy. There's nobody ever excited about him. 75 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: But it's fine. And I guess confident is in the 76 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: fact that he needs kind of safe and I think 77 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: that's what makes them boring. Do you believe any this 78 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: thought that they may make a run at Melvin Gordon. 79 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: I just think that the front office isn't this say 80 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: they don't have an actual general manager right now. I 81 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: just can't imagine they're going to do something like that 82 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: right now. No, I'm with you. It is mostly because 83 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: let's be realistic, you know this, and how many times 84 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: do we really see trades in the NFL, and generally 85 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: alone once we've already hit free agency, end of the draft. 86 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: I mean, they do have the cap space for it, 87 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: but I'm with you, a most normal teams, it doesn't 88 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: make a whole lot of sense. And then we've got 89 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: the report from McClain saying that if not even on 90 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: their minds. And then to add into fact of let's 91 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: talk about you just mentioned it, the front office is 92 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: all over the place like who's making the decisions? Who's 93 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: going to make that call? So I do think it's 94 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: going to lose Lamar Miller if you want to take 95 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: him in that spot and feel I don't think anybody's 96 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: gonna come in there, you, sir, Lamar Miller. The only 97 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: thing that you have to worry about is if he 98 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: has a down year, it gets passed in mid season. 99 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: But again, the draft cost isn't expensive enough that that's 100 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: really a big deal. Anyway. More running back issues and 101 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: not issues, but news the Broncos pick up Feel Riddck 102 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: after he was let go by the Lions, and I 103 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,119 Speaker 1: saw a tweet this morning about him catching a thirty 104 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: or at least a catch and run of a touchdown 105 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: for thirty yards right that he was playing with the ones. Um, look, man, 106 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: I feel like we just got settled on this whole 107 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay Royce Freeman situation. Now we gotta deal with 108 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: theoretic this. This seems like total bad news to me. 109 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: It does. And on the one side of things, it 110 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: kind of clusters that backfield for a little bit. But 111 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: you said running with the ones, and I know you 112 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: know this, but for everybody out that I was listening 113 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: to is like, don't always overreact to quote unquote running 114 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: with the ones? Is you know you see this time 115 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: and again every off season, and a lot of people 116 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: are like, oh, that means he's a starter. It doesn't it. 117 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: How is the team going to evaluate a running back 118 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: or any player if they're not running with the first 119 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: team offense. If there's an open competition, that's how they're 120 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: going to evaluate the player. They're not going to evaluate 121 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: the player with the second and third team unit. So 122 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: that's the one side of it. The second side of 123 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,239 Speaker 1: his as you mentioned, we already had concerns about Philip 124 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: Lindsay giving his b M I and all the wear 125 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: and tear somebody of his size. He got injured in 126 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: his first season despite being amazing. Royce Freeman was a touted, 127 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: highly coveted and remember in fantasy leagues, especially rookie running 128 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: back last year, who I don't think the book is 129 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: done and written on. So I think he's going to 130 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: be back in the mix. And now you add in 131 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: THEO Ritick and you say, all right, well, maybe Philip 132 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: Lindsay still has last year's receiving numbers, but those are 133 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: now over sixteen games and he doesn't see an improvement. 134 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: And I think that's the concern is now Philip Lindsay 135 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: loses a little that passing game work. He already had 136 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: the concern of rushing touchdowns and the work from Royce Freeman. 137 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: I think he just turns his backfield into a head 138 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: It could Philip Lindsay still be top fifteen, obviously the 139 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: ability is there, but I think it just makes a 140 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: real headache for us. But on the flip side, I 141 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: think it's open things up for somebody like Ty Johnson 142 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: is in a very very very late PPR sleeper over 143 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: with the lines because you know Patricia loves his roles. 144 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: That's what they brought C. J. Anderson and for and 145 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: Ty Johnson can now fit that role as somebody who, 146 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: at this point in his career probably has more explosiveness 147 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: than Theoretic. Yeah, you know, and Theoretic was one of 148 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: those guys that during his time in Detroit, I think 149 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: we were all sort of waiting for him to pop 150 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: and it never quite did. Um. I also feel like, 151 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: you know, he was sort of hurt by the fact 152 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: that they also had a Miro Abdullah and the two 153 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: of them were sort of the same person. You know. 154 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: I felt like, I feel like that, you know, they 155 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: didn't the Lions didn't do either one of those guys 156 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: any favors by having them essentially cannibalize each other's production 157 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: while they were there in Detroit. Um, have you seen 158 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown's feet? Have you seen this picture of Antonio 159 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: Brown's feet? I have not, and I specifically have not 160 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: on purpose. I'm one of those people that actually goes 161 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: and washed, like, don't wash this injury, don't I don't 162 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: do that. No, I do. I go watch. But there's 163 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: one thing is I hate feet. Like, even if you 164 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: can stepped out of the shower, queens, feet don't touch 165 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: me with your feet. So this is the first time 166 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: in history, Marcus, I have never and I will not 167 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: unless somebody accidentally tweeted into my timeline. I happened to 168 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: catch it. I specifically still have yet to see his 169 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: fo They look like Mesopotamian relics. I mean they're like 170 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: they're they're like dry and cracked and like blistered and 171 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: calloused and like. So the Raiders are considering him day 172 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: to day. I know we're not really worried long term 173 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: about his prospects. He's going to be there. He's still 174 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: going to be productive as long as he's healthy and 175 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: on the field. Um, But I'm sort of using this 176 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: as a roundabout way to let you rant about Josh 177 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: Jacobs because I know how much you love him, and 178 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like anything that potentially slow as 179 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown maybe is long term good for Josh Jacobs. 180 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: Am I wrong? Uh No, You're definitely not wrong. But 181 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: real quick, I will say, for the people out there, 182 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: and I'm Tony Brown, there is a spit of concern 183 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: for me, only because I talked to a player and 184 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: they said it's similar to plant or FASCII is We're 185 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: the only thing that's going to help is rest and 186 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: it is Antonio Brown. But you still want to see 187 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: him get some like if he's ready for week one, 188 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: I'm not concerned, You're not concerned. Nobody's conserved, but you 189 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: still want to see him get some reps in with 190 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: the team before the season starts. But yes, the Josh Jacobs, 191 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: and you know it's because we talked about it when 192 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: I had you on my podcast. Is I'm I'm pounding 193 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: the table for the misnomer that the fact that John 194 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: Gruden doesn't like Bell Cows because I go back to 195 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: Cadillac Williams, as you know, as a rookie in fourteen games, 196 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: two hundred and nine not touches markets two hundred ninety carries, 197 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: he gets hurt, comes back two five carries. He gave 198 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: Ernest Graham two hundred twenty two carries. He gave Tyron 199 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: Wheatley over two hundred carries two years in a row. 200 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: John Gruden will turn to his number one guy often 201 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: in plenty when he has a guy, and he has 202 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: a guy, they spent a first round pick on Josh Jacobs. 203 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs is a good pass catcher. You've already heard 204 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: reports about it that maybe Jayleen Rishard takes a step back. 205 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: So yes, you know me. I love Josh Jacobs. I 206 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: have him as my RB twelve and half point BPR 207 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: and thirteen and four point PPR. I think he's going 208 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: to have an amazing rookie season. I think he can 209 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: finish even higher than that. Uh yeah, yeah, I haven't. 210 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because I haven't. I don't think 211 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: I've drafted him anywhere, mostly because I think he's never 212 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: been on the board at a spot that I feel comfortable. 213 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 1: Either it's too early or he's gone, so I don't think. 214 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: I don't think I've had a shot at him just yet. Um. 215 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's gonna be interesting, especially by the 216 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: way that I guess this is a cheap way to 217 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: promote this um, but Hard Knocks starts on Tuesday, which 218 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: I think this year, the Raiders and Gruden and all 219 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: the personalities, this might be one of the best Hard 220 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: Knocks seasons ever. Oh definitely. And this is musty TV. 221 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: Although how much are we gonna see from Antonio Brown. 222 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: We're just gonna keep getting shots of them, like his feet, 223 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: just his feet in an ice bucket. The whole time. 224 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: Then who knows who knows? Last little headline? Real quick, 225 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: Colt McCoy, the the Washington put out their their depth chart, 226 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: their preliminary preseason depth chart, and you know, as you nation, 227 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,599 Speaker 1: saying that a guy is running with the ones or 228 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: on top of the depth chart doesn't necessarily mean that's 229 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: what it's going to be when the season starts. But 230 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: the quarterback depth charting Washington has Cult McCoy number one, 231 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: Case Keenum number two, Dwayne Haskins right now at number three. 232 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: Obviously understanding that things can change between now and the 233 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: start of the season. How much do you read into that? 234 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: Does that change anything you think about that offense? No, 235 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: because it's my opinion on Dwayne Haskins. I still believe 236 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: for the purpose of the team for the future. For like, 237 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: I don't think they're competing this season. I understand their 238 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: offensive line already has issues since the whole Trip Williams situation, 239 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: and whether or not they want to throw a rookie 240 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: out there. The best quarterback of my opinion, is Dwayne Haskins, 241 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: and the bar to pass with k s Keenum and 242 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: Cult McCoy is not high enough that why not just 243 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: get Dwayne Haskins out there, and I know he doesn't 244 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: have a ton of starts under his belt, but you 245 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: look at College and you look at that offense. Let's 246 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: just you have it in front of you to look 247 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: at the Ohio State Office and steve the turn it 248 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: made when Dwayne Haskins steps in the quarterback and the 249 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: one thing I love about him is he is one 250 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks I've seen in a couple of 251 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: years that hits wide receivers in stride where they don't 252 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: have to slow down. And I thought that's what he 253 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: would have been a perfect fit for the Giants. But 254 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: just get the ball rolling on your future. He is 255 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: your quarterback of the future. It's not Colt McCoy, it's 256 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: not case keenom. We know that now. If he completely 257 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: bombs in preseason, that's a whole another question, and he's 258 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: not ready. He needs to sit and learn. But as 259 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: of today, to answer your question for that specifically, I 260 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: am not going to change my opinion until you get 261 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: to week three of the preseason and see that Dwayne 262 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: Haskins is just not even in the competition. As of today, 263 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: I still say Haskins is starting fifteen sixty games this year. 264 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: I guess I should have originally asked you your your 265 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: opinion of that offense, because I am not touching anybody 266 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: on that team, So maybe that's where I should have 267 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: started when I talked about this. I will say this, 268 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: I was very high on Darius Guys a few weeks 269 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: ago because I kept comparing him to Dalvin Cook's timeline 270 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: and saying that if you go timeline to timeline, he 271 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: should be a hundred percent by week one, where we 272 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: saw Dalvin Cook by mid season last year at a 273 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: hundred percent and what Dalvin Cook could be. And now 274 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: everybody's dressing Dalvin Cook as a top six steven running back. 275 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: Darius Guys on that path, who I think is also 276 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: a better pass catcher than the people realize because the 277 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: L s U offense doesn't pass to their running backs 278 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: as we all know. But the step back with the 279 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: soft tissue injury is something to monitor. Adrian Peterson still there, 280 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: Chris Thompson is a great pass catcher and coming back. 281 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: But if Chris Thompson is slow to come back and 282 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: Darius Guys looks a hundred percent, I could still get 283 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: on that. I will say this, though, Marcus is this 284 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: you look at you see the reports from tray Win, 285 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: you know, Mr Irrelevant, all that type of stuff. If 286 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: you're at a deep league, if I'm not talking about 287 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: your standard twelve team, sixteen roster spots, all that type 288 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: of stuff, But if you're talking about the tact of 289 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: like you know, a flyer like Josh Dockson, this is 290 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: his last chance, and I think he knows that this 291 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: is the last chance. And this is somebody who has 292 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: valid as like one of the best prospects in some years. 293 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: Why not just throw the dice roll on him because 294 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 1: it's not You cut him by week one and then 295 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: who cares. Yeah, I mean, I guess that's a good 296 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: way to look at it. I just have I've just 297 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: had such a fear of touching anyone in that offense, 298 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: and I've just I've stayed away, and I'm like, I 299 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: I'll let somebody else deal with it if I'm gonna, 300 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna throw darts, I've been throwing them elsewhere. 301 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: I just have not been throwing them anywhere. No, you're 302 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: not getting sucked into the Jordan Reed looks amazing. No, man, 303 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: look last year, because I think it's funny. Think so 304 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: all these years he played well and he could never 305 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: stay healthy. Last year he stayed relatively healthy for Jordan 306 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: Reid and he produced nothing. So I don't. Yeah, I can't. 307 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't do it with him. So uh 308 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: so there you go. That's pretty much everything you need 309 00:13:55,240 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: to know. All right, We've got Jake Seeley from The 310 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: Athletic and a pair of podcast on whether you can 311 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: find him at all in kid on Twitter. Uh, Jake, 312 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: I was going through some of these headlines and and 313 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: wanted to get your thoughts whether or not these are 314 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: hype trains or smoke screens. Um. You know, because this 315 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: is the time of year where it's hard to trust 316 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: everything you hear. Um. You know. You see anybody who 317 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: follows beat writers on Twitter, you get the so and 318 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: so has looked great in practice today, or so and 319 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: so has not looked great and is struggling. And you know, 320 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: it's hard to kind of figure out what all this 321 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: stuff means. So I'm gonna pick your brain and uh 322 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: and kind of get your thoughts on some of these things. Um. 323 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: The first one not necessarily a hype train or smoke screen, 324 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: but more of is this a is this something to 325 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: be concerned about or not. And you and I talked 326 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: about this a little bit on your podcast recently. Andrew 327 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: Luck and this lower body injury, whether you can call 328 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: it an ankle, a calf, whatever they're calling this thing. Um, 329 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: he's expected to sit out a handful of practices this week. Um. 330 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: This has sort of been lingering, and I know a 331 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: lot of people are starting to get that deja vu 332 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: all over again, feeling again like is this should we 333 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: really be concerned or the cults just being cautious here? Yeah, 334 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: So basically, if this is any other quarterback, we'd be like, Okay, 335 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: you know they're just playing it safe, but we, like 336 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: you just said, it's dejabu all over against that bad 337 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: taste about where Hey, yeah, I he'll be fine by 338 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: a week one, he'll be fine by week four. Help 339 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: you find by week Oh, Andrew Luck's not playing this year, 340 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: Like remember that it was just not too long ago. 341 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: So I think that's the only reason we're so worried 342 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: about it as of today. I'm gonna say my worry 343 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: level is probably like a one or two out of ten, 344 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: just because and the only reasons even the two is 345 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: because it's Andrew Luck and We've done this again. But 346 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get concerned enough where I move him 347 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: or the players down my draft board until we're talking 348 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: week two and he's still not practicing or play. And 349 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: I think that right now, if we want the player 350 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck to be a percent safe, is better than sorry. 351 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: I I have to admit that I sort of asked 352 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: this question out of selfishness, because I have really gotten 353 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: behind the Andrew Luck this QB one thing, and I've 354 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: gotten on board with Marlon Mack sort of believing that 355 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck helps propel him to something bigger and better. 356 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: I think I've drafted Eric Ebrought in a few places. 357 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: So I'm really asking this question selfishly so that I 358 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: can feel better about some of my own decisions. Yeah, 359 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: actually it did. So I appreciate that um Carlos high 360 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: It is reportedly taking advantage of his opportunities with Damian 361 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: Williams out now. I know that from the moment you 362 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: know he was signed there in Kansas City, nobody really 363 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: believed that he was going to be an impact player. 364 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: In fact, I think I feel like a couple of 365 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: weeks ago, I was even seeing that you know, he 366 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: could end up being a camp casualty get end up 367 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: being cut. Now all of a sudden, he's supposedly taking 368 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: advantage all these opportunities. Are we buying this or is 369 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: this just training camp fodder? We're slightly buying it, but 370 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: the only reason we're buying it is because Damian Williams 371 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: still isn't getting on the field. And now we've got 372 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: the report that Andy Reid is starting to get frustrated 373 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: that he's not on the field. And you know, that's 374 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: open for interpretation if he's just frustrated because he wants 375 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: his player out there, or frustrated because he's saying, you know, 376 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: he should be out there, and why isn't he healing faster? 377 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: So you can look at different ways. We don't have 378 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: the really answer. But that's why it's a little bit concerning. 379 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm with you, uh and also with the reports. I'm 380 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: actually when that report came out, I tweeted and said, reminder, 381 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: policies not a threat to Damian Williams. Well he is 382 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: if Damian Williams isn't on the field. And I know 383 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: we all have the numbers of Damian Williams has never 384 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: had more than fifty carries, but Damian Williams also came 385 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: from a team that was not the best offense in 386 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: the league, and that's surprised everybody, and one that misused 387 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: a lot of their players, and just look at the 388 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: fact that used to Kenyan Drake last year. So if 389 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: Damian Williams is the starter, we know Aaron Andy Reid 390 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: and how he uses his starting running backs, and he's 391 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: the starter for sixteen games, his stealing is top five, 392 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: and he's not even one of the top ten talent 393 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: running back. It just happens to be where he is. 394 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: But that's why we need to pay attention to what's happening. 395 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: Because Carlos Hide, despite his three point three Yarnsburg carry 396 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: last year and despite the fact he was on some 397 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: miserable situations in his own right, if he's the starter, 398 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: anybody who's the starter on this team as the lead 399 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 1: running back getting the majority of the touches is in 400 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 1: the conversation as an RB one because of this offense. 401 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: So that's why you need to pay attention to this. 402 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: Because if we get down halfway through the preseason week 403 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: three and Damian Williams isn't getting there and now he's 404 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: been supplanted, Uh, that's the one side of it, and 405 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: then all the flip side of his too is we 406 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: have to look at this team and remember that they 407 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: kind of said it without saying it is the fact 408 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: that Damie Williams is still the guy unless this happens, 409 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: because they said the games and preseason games are going 410 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: to determine the backup depth chart between hide and then 411 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: they even listed Darryl Williams and Darwin Thompson, so they 412 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: kind of set it without saying it's still Williams's job. 413 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: But it's only still Williams's job for as long as 414 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: he can get on the field. You know, you mentioned 415 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: the fact that he is the opportunity is there and 416 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: that's what people love, but that in terms of talent, 417 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: he's not a top ten guy. How much do we 418 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: take into effect into account that last year he really 419 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: got on the field late in the season and he 420 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: had fresh legs at a time when everybody he was 421 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: going against was probably, you know, worn down, beat up, 422 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: what have you looked at me? It's not to take 423 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: you away from what he did, but just to sort 424 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: of put in context a little bit what he did 425 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: that that he was he was probably the freshest guy 426 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: on the field for those last few games of the season. Yeah, 427 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: and then there's ways, you know, there's there's ways you 428 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: can spend in any different direction of like he was 429 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 1: the precious is he also finally being used in a 430 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: way that best suited his skill set and the fact 431 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: that if you watch the way he runs kind of 432 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: fits this offense pretty well and the way that rebikes 433 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: the backfield. So you could spend it a couple different ways. 434 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: It's certainly a one too if you literally put it 435 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: this way. Market You know this, If you look at 436 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: Damian Williams, you can poke holes in him probably five 437 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: different ways. If you want to support him, you can 438 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: give him five different positive things. I'm somebody that's behind 439 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: him and supporting him, and there's a lot of people 440 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: on either side. Basically, what's gonna come down to injury 441 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: or not even if he was of today, either you're 442 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: in on Damian wings or not that I don't think 443 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot of will play in the middle ground. Yeah, 444 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna be Look, he's still gonna 445 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: go high, and I think there's still the potential there, 446 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: you know, just we always I feel like we have 447 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: to look at every side of the situation when we 448 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: talk about a guy. Um So, last week I wrote 449 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: a series on NFL dot Com about guys who are 450 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: essentially undervalued in draft this year. This week, I feel 451 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: like I have to do the companion piece with guys 452 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: who were overvalued in draft and this one, this one 453 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: sort of hurts me, Jake, because Kenney Colladay came out 454 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: recently and said I can be a one hundred catch guy, 455 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 1: and my response is, I agree, just not in this 456 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: Lions offense. I mean, I just I don't know. I mean, 457 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: I know he says it, and I think he has 458 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: the talent, but I feel like this is kind of 459 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: a smoke screen, Jake, that it just it just can't 460 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: happen with this offense constructed as it is. I am 461 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: a hundred percent with you, and this is a hundred 462 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: percent of smoke stream because I'm just looking at last year, 463 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: just to take last year's sample, but the least the 464 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: fewest amount of targets to get a hundred receptions last 465 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: year was Michael Thomas with a hundred and forty seven. 466 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: Everybody else had more than a one nine, and actually 467 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: every he passed him and Stefon Diggs had one fifty 468 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: or more. So that's really where the question comes in 469 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: is and also look at Michael Thomas and look at 470 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: his reception rate. So let's talk about that for a second. 471 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: So you're right, it's the offense. It's Matthew Stafford and 472 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: this offense. It's yes, you've vacated the tape targets, but 473 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: Tate wasn't on the field the entire time. Even if 474 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: you want to include the fact that Marvin Jones, well 475 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: Marvin Jones is coming back for after missing seven games, 476 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: so you've got to take about forty or fifty targets 477 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: to pull them back over to Marvin Jones. All right, 478 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: So let's say theo ridis not there anymore. Well, some 479 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: of those are going to go to carry on Johnsons, 480 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: some of those to tie Johnson. I just don't see 481 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: any which way. Before we've even gotten to the point 482 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: of the offense of a whole, which I think what 483 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: you're getting at here, it's the Patricia offense, which runs 484 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: the ball a hell of a lot, and the fact 485 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: that I don't seasibly see how he gets a hundred 486 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: and thirty thirty five, let alone a hundred and fifty targets. 487 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: So yes, I love you gold Kenny Golladay. I love 488 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: the upside that you have as a player. I actually 489 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: love your fitness offense. But there's no way on Earth 490 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: Ie you getting to a hundred targets, just a hundred receptions, 491 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: because I just don't see you getting the targets to 492 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: get the reception. I mean just the last year, just 493 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: based on their there there pacing last year. I mean 494 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: they were one of the slowest paced teams in the 495 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: league last season. Um, you know, And it's just Matt 496 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: Patricia seems to be one of those old school guys 497 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: who wants to play defense, run the football. I just, 498 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: you know, I want it to be so, but I 499 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: just can't. I can't make it be so. I can't. 500 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: I just can't. Um. All right, last one for you 501 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: in this this hype trainer smoke screen. And this one 502 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: is because it's like fantasy cat nip right, and like, 503 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: I'm not one who jumps on this, but I know 504 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: that the name. The moment this name pops up, everybody 505 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: starts to scramble and salivate. I mean, it's very Pavalavi 506 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: and almost reports Josh Gordon is going to file for reinstatement. Um, I, 507 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't do it. I feel like we've 508 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: had our hearts broken too many times. I mean, are 509 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: are you? Are you? Are you antiing up again for 510 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: this if this happens, Are you going to anti backup 511 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: for Josh Gordon? Yeah? So I was never really in 512 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: on Josh Gordon anyway after the first suspension. So I'm 513 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: not really anti enough anyway because I never really antied 514 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: up in the first place, because it's just a frustration 515 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: of not knowing if he's ever gonna be out there, 516 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: and everybody is always willing to pay. As you said, 517 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: people salivate, people see the upside. People remember the huge 518 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: season he had, and he's like, well, he's with the Patriots, 519 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: So yeah, he's worth taken in the sixth, seventh round. 520 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: And as of today, he's probably not gonna go there. 521 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: But if he's reinstated, he'll get back up to that level. 522 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: And that's why it is because right now he's not 523 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: even officially reinstated. Even before that, is he going to 524 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: be the number two I think James White the number 525 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: two receiver quote unquote on this team because it's Jacoby Myers, 526 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: Josh Gordon Philip Doors, said nikkil Harry, who hasn't looked 527 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: good so far. There's just a litany of options. That 528 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: reminds me about the Super Bowl teams from the early 529 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: years for the Patriots, where it was a bunch of 530 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: guys behind Dion Branch and that's what it's looking like. 531 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: It's a bunch of guys behind Julian Edelman. Does Josh 532 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: Gordon to have the highest upside of anybody not? Julian Edelman, Absolutely, Marcus, 533 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: you know that. I know that everybody knows that. But 534 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: am I gonna invest in him in my league? I 535 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: just can't pull that trigger because somebody's gonna take them round. 536 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it just it's you know, it's funny every 537 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: time his name comes up. It's just people get irrational 538 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: about it. And I think, you know, everybody looks back 539 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: at that one huge, magical season he had um, but man, 540 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: that was at this point, that was so long ago 541 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: that it's just hard to think that that something like 542 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: that's ever gonna come back again. I mean, it's a 543 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: long way in a rear view mirror, man, And I 544 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: just you know, I don't know, it's just funny every 545 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: time his name pops up. People just people just start 546 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: to you know, panic a little bit and start sweating 547 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: and it's funny. So um, all right, So before I 548 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: let you go, and I appreciate the time, Jake, Uh, 549 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: you are part of your stock in trade is rankings. 550 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: You are consistently one of the most accurate rankers in 551 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: the fantasy industry. Um. And so now I want to 552 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: get your your rankings on some different non fantasy football 553 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: related things, but things that I know are sort of 554 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: near and dear to your heart. So I got three 555 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: different categories you three different things within that category, and 556 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: I want your rankings on those. So ready, all right, 557 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: you go. Animated shows ones that you know I know 558 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: you love because you and I have discussed some of 559 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: these before. So I want your rankings, Uh, between Voltron, 560 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: Final Space and One punch Man. How do you rank those? 561 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: I almost feel obligated to put one of them first, 562 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: And that's why I did that because I know that, 563 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: you know, you sort of have a personal connection with 564 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: the creators of one of those shows. So I'm gonna 565 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: try to put you on the spot here. I appreciate, 566 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: but I woulda put Look, I'm gonna say I'll put 567 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: Final Space first, for multiple reasons is I actually think 568 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: that some of the best character development in a comedy 569 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: slash sci fi cartoon show, which is just it took 570 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: me really by surprise last year. And that's why before 571 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: I mean Ollen Rodgers, the creator, he's kind of taken off, 572 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: and he's taken off because of this show and a 573 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: lot of the other stuff he has YouTube shows and 574 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But I mean the investment you get 575 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,239 Speaker 1: into these characters, you actually really kind of feel for him. 576 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: I enjoy that show more than I expected, and I'm glad. 577 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: But this way, this is how I know it's first. 578 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: If Voltron, I could catch up over a weekend and 579 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, if I want to go out, that's fine, 580 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: and now it's over. As you know, One punch Man 581 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: is the same thing. It's like, all right, you know what, 582 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: I'll watch three next week and it's a great show 583 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: in its own right. But Final Space is it's eleven 584 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: thirty Monday night. I'm watching Final Space. Sorry, that's what 585 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: I'm doing. That's how I know it's number one. So 586 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: I'll give One punch Man the slight edge of a 587 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: Voltron just because it's still going. And I actually thought 588 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: the season two got way too much crap. I thought 589 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: there was actually still really good. It just left on 590 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: a crazy cliffhanger. But Voltron Vultron, if it was still going, 591 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: would be number two. But since it's over, it's number three. 592 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: All right, Okay, that's that's fair. Uh So the next 593 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: one for me Disney shows, right, uh, Duck Tails, Dark 594 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: Wing Duck and Chipping Dale's Rescue Rangers. So I find 595 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: it than he left this interesting one off. You forget 596 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: Gummy Bears. Jummy Bears is underrated. Gubby Bears is a 597 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: very underrated one that was kind of in that block. 598 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: And they I think, if you think about it, markets, 599 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: I think you were teaching us about p E d 600 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: s because the gummy berry juice, right yeah, and also 601 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: to power them up. And these little dudes are beating 602 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: up the agianas like some underlying theme they were trying 603 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: to teach kids back and maybe all right, these three. 604 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: You know what my number one answer is, it's the 605 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: theme song opener and closer for my show myself. It's 606 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: Duckdales is number one, no question about it. I will 607 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: go because it's a spin off from that. I will 608 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: actually put Darkwing in the order. You just put Darkwing 609 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 1: Duck number two and Tipping Dale's is number three, but 610 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: Tripp and Dale is not because it's not good. It's 611 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: actually probably the second best theme song of all those 612 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: Disney cartoons, but it's just a it's a third because 613 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: their voices after a while, it's can kind of great 614 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: on you. Yeah, that's fair, that's fair, I mean, which 615 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: I think is honestly why you know, Monterey Jack, you know, 616 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,239 Speaker 1: and uh, I can't remember who's the other the other 617 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: character thing, But like that's why they had regular voices, 618 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: because you couldn't have four characters all with those you know, 619 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: squeaky chipmunk voices. I think that would have been probably 620 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: too much. Um, all right, last one serial, because I 621 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: know you have done cereal rankings, which is totally weird 622 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: because I don't think you actually eat cereal, correct, Like 623 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: you don't, you don't eat breakfast cereals, but you rank them, 624 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: which I think is sort of strange. Um. No, I 625 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: I ate all of them. Um, but just I have 626 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: a borderline borderline that I guess about photographic memory. When 627 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: it comes to that, I don't know what the word 628 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: is for it, but I have a borderline memory where 629 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: I remember seeing from ten twenty years ago, so I 630 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: remember how they all taste. But I did taste some 631 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: new ones for it, I just don't eat it consistently. Okay, 632 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: well I will give you some. These are old school 633 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: ones that, according to the Google are some of the 634 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: top selling cereals UH in the country. Cinnamon toast crunch, 635 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: honeynut cheerios, and fruit loops. Those those are the three 636 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: were gone here for you know, I could tell you 637 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: I could sell you a hashtac jack the link for 638 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: those because for everybody outs out there so that you 639 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: don't know because you can't see the word. But remember, 640 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: fruit loops isn't even spelled you I T F R 641 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: O O T. Yes, yes, because they're all the same flavor. 642 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: They're not even different. So fruit loves actually checked in 643 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: at thirty third over fifty five. Honey nut cheerios was 644 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: tied thirteen fourteen. UH. Cinnamon toast crunch was originally third 645 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: or fourth, But I found this out, Marcus, there was 646 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: thanks to a listener told me there's Uros cinnamon toast crunch, 647 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: and it perfectly fixes the problem. The fact that Cinneama 648 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: toast crunch gets soggy, too fast. So those are now 649 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: the number one. It's the Turos cinema Cinema toast crunch. 650 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: You gotta go Triumph. That seems sort of redundant because 651 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: cinnamon toast crunch is basically Turos in like little crunchy 652 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: square form, right. I mean, it just seems like it 653 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: just seems redundant to call it truro flavor. That's that's 654 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: actually a really big like that. They called them like 655 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: chocolate cocoa puffs, right, exactly exactly. It's just it's just 656 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of it's kind of redundant. It will say this. 657 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if you ranked it, and I don't 658 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: know if you remember this. There was a serial bank 659 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: in my childhood called Circus fun Um and you know, 660 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: oh it was like they had they had a crazy 661 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: little jingle on these commercials and there, you know, they 662 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: had all these you know, marshmallows that were shaped like 663 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: Circus animals, you know, elephants and giraffes and whatever. Um. 664 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: I remember begging my mom to buy a box of it, 665 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: and I you know, sometimes you taste something and it 666 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: tastes like the smell of something else. Since you're you know, 667 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: you're you're smelling. Your sense of tastes are connected. I 668 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: remember begging my mom for a box of this, pouring 669 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: a bowl and realizing that the the marshmallows in it 670 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: tasted like the smell of garbage, and I'm like, this 671 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,959 Speaker 1: was disgusting. But at that point I was all in 672 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: because I begged my mom for it, and she's like, 673 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: you're going to eat this whole box, and so I 674 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: suffered through it for like a couple of weeks. I 675 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: never had those, But do you remember the teenage Ninja 676 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: Turtles and then the Tendo Serial System. I remember them. 677 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: I never ate it, but I do remember those things. 678 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: Yet they were like knock off. And I'm not even 679 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: talking about like pretend these were like the knockoffs of 680 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: the knockoffs, copies of like like Lucky Charms where the 681 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: sugar case was the most Oh yeah, I couldn't even 682 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: finish a bowl. That were both so disgusting. Oh that's vile, 683 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: that is that is wrong. I mean, we go I 684 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: go on for for hours about cereal, but I will 685 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: I will refrain and I will save my audience from 686 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: doing that. H Jake appreciate the time for folks out 687 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: there who are listening, and you know, most folks who 688 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: listen to the show probably know, but for those who don't, 689 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: where can they find you? Yes, at all and kids, 690 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: as you said on Twitter, is the easiest way because 691 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: I tweet everything out. But over at the Athletic, the 692 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: athletics dot com where there's tons of stuff over there 693 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: are draft Kid is out. Actually Second Wave launched today 694 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: as I told you before. The rankies are freshly updated, 695 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: so you can find me there. And you've mentioned the podcast. Yeah, 696 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: all in sports podcasts and Sports Unfealed. So a lot 697 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: of places, including special guest spots like this, which is 698 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: one of my favorites. Hey, I appreciate you. Always love 699 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: having you on uh and we'll definitely be intected at 700 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,959 Speaker 1: some point during this season, if you know, certainly on 701 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: the internets and uh, you know, at some point maybe 702 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: we connect in person too. That be fantastic. So appreciate it, Jake, 703 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: and for you out there listening, we appreciate it as well. 704 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: We are done as always you know, the will tell 705 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: two friends to tell too friends rate review and remember 706 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: if plan A fails, you still have twenty five letters left. Well, 707 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: see you on Wednesday, wan wan I don't go, I 708 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: don't go.