WEBVTT - Fire Drill 084: Inside the Ropes at the Women’s Open

0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:05.720
<v Speaker 1>It's a big deal when the Women's Open goes to

0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:10.399
<v Speaker 1>the citadels of the game, whether it's oakmant Or or

0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:15.319
<v Speaker 1>pebble Beach, it elevates the entire events and of course

0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:17.880
<v Speaker 1>they these players deserve that they should play on the

0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:21.000
<v Speaker 1>best playing fields, and to finally get a Women's Open

0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:23.320
<v Speaker 1>here is just really cool.

0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I got thoughts in my head. Can't get him, John

0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:32.800
<v Speaker 2>not to think what I'm thinking about.

0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:34.159
<v Speaker 1>Count thoughts.

0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:40.199
<v Speaker 2>Can't get them out, John not to think what I'm thinking.

0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:50.800
<v Speaker 1>About all right, Hello, Welcome back to the Fire Drill Podcast,

0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.440
<v Speaker 1>joined by Matt Janella and a very special guest, a

0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:58.880
<v Speaker 1>gent named Kevin Price. KP and I go back basically

0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.680
<v Speaker 1>to birth our errands for friends. We were born three

0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:04.640
<v Speaker 1>weeks apart. There are photos of us swaddled next to

0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:08.760
<v Speaker 1>each other in a bassinett, lifelong best friends. At my

0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:12.720
<v Speaker 1>wedding in nineteen ninety nine, Kevin met Matt Janella for

0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:16.319
<v Speaker 1>the first time. They became great friends. The three of

0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.600
<v Speaker 1>us and Sundry others have had many golf adventures from

0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Australia to Ireland, to Scotland to Pinehurst, Abandon and Kevin

0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:28.959
<v Speaker 1>is a generational ball striker claims should be scratched is

0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:32.039
<v Speaker 1>probably a plus two. That's a sore subject we'll save

0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:37.120
<v Speaker 1>for another podcast. He owns his own financial services firm,

0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.039
<v Speaker 1>but Caddie's out at Pebble Beach mostly because he's the

0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:42.520
<v Speaker 1>biggest golf nerd around and he just wants to touch

0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:45.280
<v Speaker 1>the grass and sniff the towels and do whatever else

0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:49.160
<v Speaker 1>he does to satisfy those urges. So Kevin has a

0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:52.880
<v Speaker 1>bag at this week's United States Women's Open Championship, and

0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:56.640
<v Speaker 1>we thought we'd preview the course, the tournament, the players. keV,

0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:58.720
<v Speaker 1>thanks for doing this my pleasure.

0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:01.720
<v Speaker 3>Guys happy to be here as I am happy to

0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.280
<v Speaker 3>be out at the Pebble Beach Golf Links for this

0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:04.960
<v Speaker 3>Women's Open.

0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:06.520
<v Speaker 4>I think it's going to be a really special week

0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:07.000
<v Speaker 4>out there.

0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.840
<v Speaker 1>It's Monday evening of tournament week. You're you're coming in

0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:14.560
<v Speaker 1>hot from a practice round with Mackenzie Han, young player

0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:18.080
<v Speaker 1>at University Wisconsin, or you have some roots and tell

0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:21.840
<v Speaker 1>us about Mackenzie and the golf course. I know you

0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:25.239
<v Speaker 1>had a special guest in your practice round pairing today,

0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:27.519
<v Speaker 1>Like you just set the scene for the listeners, right

0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:28.480
<v Speaker 1>hold on.

0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:32.000
<v Speaker 5>Can we please can we take a second like, first

0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:35.359
<v Speaker 5>of all, like I haven't said a word yet, okay,

0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:38.160
<v Speaker 5>jomp In Matt, Sorry, Like, can I at least address

0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:45.240
<v Speaker 5>Ken Well, like you'll have your part of hogging the microphone?

0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:48.440
<v Speaker 5>Are you? Like, oh my, I'm trying to throw it

0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:52.119
<v Speaker 5>to the guests, But I mean you're not doing him

0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:58.600
<v Speaker 5>at like even close to justice. Kevin Price. Yes, one

0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:00.560
<v Speaker 5>of the greatest gifts you've ever get me is my

0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:05.000
<v Speaker 5>friendship to Kevin Price with Kevin Price, which is and

0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:07.760
<v Speaker 5>we've been all over the world together. We're we're like

0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.480
<v Speaker 5>better friends than you and I now like we like

0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:12.720
<v Speaker 5>we like leap frog friendships.

0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:17.720
<v Speaker 3>Like it was like child, it's a tie, it's a tie.

0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:20.320
<v Speaker 5>It's a tie. But I lean that way after you're

0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:24.359
<v Speaker 5>so very rude intro And by the way, Kevin is

0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:28.639
<v Speaker 5>one of those scratch golfers that are actually sandbagging scratch golfers.

0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:31.840
<v Speaker 5>When guy rocks up, he's like, oh, I'm scratch, you

0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:35.400
<v Speaker 5>know whatever. To your point, he's literally a plus two

0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:39.120
<v Speaker 5>plus three. He's two time club champion at Bayonet and

0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:39.840
<v Speaker 5>black Horse.

0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but also he won the gross and the

0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:45.120
<v Speaker 1>net in the same year.

0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:48.240
<v Speaker 5>That was but see that, that's what I'm talking about

0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.560
<v Speaker 5>like you didn't even you just like YadA YadA, you

0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:53.280
<v Speaker 5>blurred right through. You've got some sort of date or

0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.120
<v Speaker 5>something like, can we just have a conversation now?

0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:58.760
<v Speaker 3>You guys are too kind. I appreciate that. Let's be honest.

0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.480
<v Speaker 3>Those Bayonet Club Champs, we're not exactly the deepest fields

0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.200
<v Speaker 3>in golf. But I've played I've played pretty well those

0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:07.200
<v Speaker 3>two times. So I'll take how many Kevin?

0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:09.880
<v Speaker 5>How many? How many? How many times have you caddied

0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:10.800
<v Speaker 5>at AT and T?

0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:14.040
<v Speaker 4>I've done six at and T prorams.

0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:17.640
<v Speaker 5>And then you've grown up obviously, how many? How many times?

0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:19.680
<v Speaker 5>How many? You know? How many years have you been

0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:20.640
<v Speaker 5>caddying at Pebble?

0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:25.400
<v Speaker 3>I started in twenty fifteen in the spring of twenty fifteen,

0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:30.720
<v Speaker 3>have probably averaged about ninety five loops a year in

0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:32.800
<v Speaker 3>those eight and a half seasons.

0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.400
<v Speaker 5>And what's your low round at Pebble.

0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.320
<v Speaker 4>Seventy one from the blue season.

0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:43.000
<v Speaker 5>So and US Opens. Obviously, you've spent a lot of

0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:48.280
<v Speaker 5>time assessing setup, walking yardages, being the caddy you are

0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:51.680
<v Speaker 5>and the player you are, and the analytics sort of

0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:55.600
<v Speaker 5>sort of approach you take to golf in life. You've

0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.120
<v Speaker 5>you're well aware you're well versed on sort of what

0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:00.800
<v Speaker 5>is the setup of amends you open for you?

0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, so, I mean I think the two key

0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:10.800
<v Speaker 3>differences are the primary or first cut of rough would

0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:15.880
<v Speaker 3>be a little bit shorter this time compared to twenty nineteen.

0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:19.600
<v Speaker 3>Although I'll tell you guys, after the winter we had

0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:25.000
<v Speaker 3>and all the rain that visited its glory upon the

0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:28.560
<v Speaker 3>central coast of California this winter, that grass is doing

0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:30.960
<v Speaker 3>just fine, thank you very much. It is healthy, it

0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:34.719
<v Speaker 3>is dense, it is grabby, it varies a little bit.

0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:39.800
<v Speaker 3>So reading the lies will be a key part of

0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:43.320
<v Speaker 3>the sort of the full swings and the short shots

0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:47.000
<v Speaker 3>around the greens out of what I call the regular rough.

0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:50.400
<v Speaker 3>That's you know, sort of the two to three and

0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:54.120
<v Speaker 3>a half inch rough, that's what we think of as rough.

0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:57.560
<v Speaker 4>It's just it's dense and it's gravy.

0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:00.600
<v Speaker 3>Every now and then you might catch it jumper out

0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:03.320
<v Speaker 3>of it and the ball just goes sailing with no spin.

0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:06.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean, so reading the lies is going to be key.

0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:08.760
<v Speaker 3>And then on the margins of the golf course, on

0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:12.719
<v Speaker 3>some of the holes, the pebble and the usga have

0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:17.560
<v Speaker 3>grown up some rather long more fescue type sort of

0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:20.720
<v Speaker 3>long blades that lay down, and if they're if you're

0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.640
<v Speaker 3>across the grain of that grass as it lays, or

0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:28.920
<v Speaker 3>certainly into it, I mean you're probably coming out essentially sideways.

0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:32.240
<v Speaker 3>So it's graduated in the sense that you've got a

0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.320
<v Speaker 3>little bit of a sort of fringy cut on the

0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:37.600
<v Speaker 3>edge of the fairways. Then you've got the primary rough

0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:42.320
<v Speaker 3>that's playable but really challenging, and then the long stuff

0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.200
<v Speaker 3>that's just flat out penal.

0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:48.839
<v Speaker 5>And compared to AT and T, no night.

0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:53.400
<v Speaker 3>And day, much gnarlier in terms of the rough, no question,

0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:56.800
<v Speaker 3>much much gnarlier, I mean, honestly because of the amateurs

0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:58.320
<v Speaker 3>in the field, and I think the AT and T

0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:00.560
<v Speaker 3>has done a nice job of improving the level of

0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:02.640
<v Speaker 3>play among the emitters and the AT and T over

0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:09.039
<v Speaker 3>the last several years credit SJ. But yeah, it's the

0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:11.840
<v Speaker 3>AT and T is sort of like resort conditions plus

0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:13.920
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of speed on the greens. I mean,

0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:16.320
<v Speaker 3>it's really not that different, to be honest with you.

0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.400
<v Speaker 3>For the Open, we've got a number of fairways that

0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:21.840
<v Speaker 3>are now meaningfully narrower.

0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:23.640
<v Speaker 4>So I would point to numbers.

0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:32.080
<v Speaker 3>Four, six, eight, eleven, fifteen and sixteen are all pinched

0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:36.600
<v Speaker 3>in from one side or both so that the extent

0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:41.520
<v Speaker 3>of the short grass is smaller. And then of course

0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:44.000
<v Speaker 3>the rough, if you do find it, is gnarlier than

0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:44.560
<v Speaker 3>an AT and T.

0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Without doubt, Matt, can I ask a question? Or do

0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:49.560
<v Speaker 1>you want to keep hogging the mic? What's your comfort

0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:50.040
<v Speaker 1>level here?

0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:50.160
<v Speaker 4>For?

0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:53.160
<v Speaker 5>I have one to follow up to that, like green speeds,

0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:54.920
<v Speaker 5>Thank you allan, But we'll get to you to say

0:07:55.320 --> 0:08:00.160
<v Speaker 5>the green speeds versus AT and T, Like what what

0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:01.920
<v Speaker 5>is the buzz? What's the talk?

0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:02.160
<v Speaker 4>Like?

0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:04.640
<v Speaker 5>What's the anticipation of how how quick they'll be?

0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.320
<v Speaker 3>Honestly, here on Monday night, I think it's a little

0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:11.320
<v Speaker 3>too early to say they're not they're not crazy fast

0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:14.280
<v Speaker 3>right now, but we still have, you know, two full

0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:18.680
<v Speaker 3>days to go, and we've been you know, we've had

0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.320
<v Speaker 3>this sort of interior California heat wave the last few

0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.240
<v Speaker 3>days and that tends to suck the marine layer the

0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:27.920
<v Speaker 3>fog in right just in the first you know, half

0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:31.480
<v Speaker 3>mile or mile of the California coastline, I mean, from

0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:34.480
<v Speaker 3>Pebble today, I'm looking sort of toward where I live,

0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:37.200
<v Speaker 3>which is just maybe two miles from the from the

0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:42.040
<v Speaker 3>beach and it's bright sunshine, and yesterday we had visibility

0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.160
<v Speaker 3>problems at Pebble during the practice round. I mean there

0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:47.000
<v Speaker 3>were some shots where I was lining McKenzie up for

0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.040
<v Speaker 3>a tea shot and we were working off the mow

0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.120
<v Speaker 3>lines on the tea box because we simply could not

0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:55.440
<v Speaker 3>see targets out there. The upshot of that, for the

0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:58.200
<v Speaker 3>for the softness and the speed of the golf course

0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:02.240
<v Speaker 3>is that it's still still a little bit soft and slow.

0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.000
<v Speaker 3>But I mean that is by us open standards. I

0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:08.320
<v Speaker 3>will say today this afternoon, with the fog being a

0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.320
<v Speaker 3>little bit higher in the sky, I did sense the

0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.920
<v Speaker 3>greens starting to firm up a little bit. So you're

0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:15.679
<v Speaker 3>starting to get some ballance on the greens.

0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Alan take it away, Yeah, pour some out for the

0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.480
<v Speaker 1>golf fans home. Have to listen to the marine Layer

0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.280
<v Speaker 1>conversation for four more days after La Country Club.

0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:31.760
<v Speaker 5>But don't if I don't my loo mall Natty's koozy.

0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:36.800
<v Speaker 1>By the way, Oh nice, I like that. Yeah, it's

0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:40.840
<v Speaker 1>it's so funny. I mean, July here is in in Carmel,

0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Pebble Beach is so cold and just I'm walking around

0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.120
<v Speaker 1>town with my dog and all the tursts and shorts

0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:49.360
<v Speaker 1>and T shirts are freezing, their teeth are chattering, and

0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:51.920
<v Speaker 1>that one's complaining. And it's supposed to be summer. I mean,

0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:54.440
<v Speaker 1>our summer is in the falls, as some people know,

0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:58.600
<v Speaker 1>that's when the sunshine really comes. So but I like

0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:00.840
<v Speaker 1>the uncertainty of the weather. You know, you may get

0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.440
<v Speaker 1>a bright sunny day, the usually the winds will follow

0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:08.360
<v Speaker 1>and that can change the green speeds quickly. But people,

0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if people remember how low the scoring

0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:14.680
<v Speaker 1>was for the US Open twenty nineteen. I mean, the

0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.360
<v Speaker 1>men really kind of tore up Pebble Beach. It's just

0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:20.720
<v Speaker 1>such a petite golf course for those kind of players.

0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:24.640
<v Speaker 1>And the t's that the women are using this week

0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:26.880
<v Speaker 1>are around sixty five hundred yards. I mean, it's very

0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:30.160
<v Speaker 1>similar to kind of the Golds or maybe one of

0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.480
<v Speaker 1>the Combo tests. I mean from Kevin, you see a

0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:36.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of golf out there. How satisfying is it for

0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:39.000
<v Speaker 1>you to see the course play sort of the way

0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.559
<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to, where you have some longer clubs in

0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:44.040
<v Speaker 1>and the players have to navigate with a little bit

0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.079
<v Speaker 1>of finesse And thought.

0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:49.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, in two practice rounds now, I've seen some headcover.

0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:52.199
<v Speaker 3>Headcovers come off for second shots into these part fours,

0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:55.400
<v Speaker 3>and you know, not for McKenzie, to be perfectly honest,

0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:59.440
<v Speaker 3>she hits it. She hits it pretty hard. But i

0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:01.800
<v Speaker 3>the people we played with in the first couple of

0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:05.680
<v Speaker 3>days here, it's there are some approach shots that that

0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:09.360
<v Speaker 3>play long for sure. I mean, it's it's a test.

0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:11.880
<v Speaker 3>One of the truisms of the Pebble Beach golf Links

0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.080
<v Speaker 3>is the is the greens are very small, right, and

0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:18.120
<v Speaker 3>so if you if you get gnarly rough and small

0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:23.280
<v Speaker 3>greens and some firmness and some wind and a golf

0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:27.600
<v Speaker 3>course that's going to play long ish at least for

0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:29.840
<v Speaker 3>at least a big chunk of this field.

0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:31.520
<v Speaker 4>That's a test.

0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:33.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that is a real challenge, and you've got

0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:39.200
<v Speaker 3>to golf your ball from beginning. You Matt major premium

0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:42.320
<v Speaker 3>on playing from the short grass on on, you know,

0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.839
<v Speaker 3>both in terms of approach shots into greens and also

0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.000
<v Speaker 3>if you do happen to miss the green you want

0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:49.800
<v Speaker 3>to miss where there's a little apron and you can

0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:52.040
<v Speaker 3>you can putter chip it off of short grass. I mean,

0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:55.920
<v Speaker 3>it's it's it's the variability and the outcomes from the

0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:59.640
<v Speaker 3>green side rough is extremely high. I mean, it's it's

0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:03.079
<v Speaker 3>enough in spots to make very very good players look

0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:06.960
<v Speaker 3>silly from time to time. So it's yeah, you want

0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:08.400
<v Speaker 3>to you want to keep it on the short stuff

0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:09.040
<v Speaker 3>without a doubt.

0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:14.880
<v Speaker 5>Go back for a second, and how whose bag are

0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.360
<v Speaker 5>you on? And how did this come about? And give

0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.800
<v Speaker 5>us a little you know, give us a bio of

0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:21.080
<v Speaker 5>who you're catting for this week.

0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:25.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Mackenzie On is an absolutely delightful twenty four year

0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:29.000
<v Speaker 3>old graduate of the University of Wisconsin, Madison, where in

0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:33.480
<v Speaker 3>a in a golf god's work in Mysterious ways twist,

0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:36.600
<v Speaker 3>I went to graduate school, as Alan hinted at earlier,

0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:42.880
<v Speaker 3>and I have fully and comprehensively indoctrinated our seven year

0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:48.560
<v Speaker 3>old daughter into the ways of Badger fandom with her miscellaneous.

0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:50.720
<v Speaker 4>Clothing doc stuffed stuffed Bucky.

0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:57.200
<v Speaker 3>Badger's signage, et cetera. So the fact that when I

0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:03.360
<v Speaker 3>first got Mackenzie's email after being connected by some Pebble

0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:07.720
<v Speaker 3>Beach by the Pebble Beach team. So to back up

0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:11.720
<v Speaker 3>a little bit, A few weeks ago, a smallish number

0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:16.040
<v Speaker 3>of caddies here received a text message asking if we

0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.720
<v Speaker 3>would be interested in working the open in case the

0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:22.400
<v Speaker 3>opportunity presented itself, and expecting something like seven to twelve

0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:28.840
<v Speaker 3>local caddie requests to come to pass. So the only

0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:31.000
<v Speaker 3>challenge there for me was to not be the first

0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.920
<v Speaker 3>guy to respond over enthusiastically. So I waited to be

0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:38.640
<v Speaker 3>the second and said, yes, that would be great. I

0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:42.600
<v Speaker 3>would be happy to do that. So I got an

0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:45.280
<v Speaker 3>email from Mackenzie saying that she had gotten my name

0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.959
<v Speaker 3>from Pebble. And of course the first thing you do

0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:52.280
<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty three is google Mackenzie on and the

0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:56.280
<v Speaker 3>headline that popped up was the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel newspaper

0:13:56.360 --> 0:14:00.640
<v Speaker 3>article about her qualifying in thirty six holes sectional qualifying,

0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.560
<v Speaker 3>making it through a playoff with a birdie to on

0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:07.280
<v Speaker 3>the deciding hole in the playoff to to punch her

0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:10.240
<v Speaker 3>ticket to Pebble Beach. And I mean, it's just like

0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:12.400
<v Speaker 3>it's too good to be true, right, I mean, I

0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:16.120
<v Speaker 3>would have taken any bag and would have been absolutely

0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:17.680
<v Speaker 3>delighted to be a part of this and would have

0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:19.760
<v Speaker 3>done my very best for any player.

0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:23.040
<v Speaker 4>But this is truly a match she made in golf heaven.

0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:28.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we certainly, yeah, Oh, I mean yeah, I hope

0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:30.600
<v Speaker 3>she thinks the same thing. But I mean, i'll tell

0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:33.920
<v Speaker 3>you what, I'm pretty stoked about it. We actually had

0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:36.680
<v Speaker 3>her parents and and swing coach over for dinner here

0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:40.160
<v Speaker 3>last night, and Claire had a little handmade card that said,

0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.000
<v Speaker 3>good luck Mackenzie, I can't wait to watch you play golf.

0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:45.880
<v Speaker 3>And it's like, you know, don't make me cry, boys,

0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:49.520
<v Speaker 3>this is some sweet stuff. I absolutely love it. We're

0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.760
<v Speaker 3>having a blast. And she's a good young player. I mean,

0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, she's one of these people. You watch her

0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:58.680
<v Speaker 3>play and you watch her alongside some of these other

0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.760
<v Speaker 3>pros were were paired with in the practice rounds. You

0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:05.280
<v Speaker 3>see what's happening on the practice tee before the rounds,

0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:08.200
<v Speaker 3>and there's no reason she can't play at this level.

0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:13.160
<v Speaker 3>She's long, she's strong, she's young. She rolls it beautifully

0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:17.760
<v Speaker 3>on the greens, and you know, it's just I think

0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:20.960
<v Speaker 3>this week is just a little mental fortitude, a little

0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:24.080
<v Speaker 3>emotional resilience, and probably a little rub of the green

0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:24.960
<v Speaker 3>from time to time.

0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:26.880
<v Speaker 4>But she can do it. She can play here. There's

0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:27.680
<v Speaker 4>no doubt about it.

0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, I loved that the last US Open, Tiger said,

0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:35.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's nothing like Pebble Beach for a US Open,

0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:37.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, just there's just something special and kind of

0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:41.360
<v Speaker 1>magical about it. And for you, Kevin, to be inside

0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:46.320
<v Speaker 1>the ropes at a national championship, have you had any

0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:49.080
<v Speaker 1>any kind of g whiz moments where you've really felt

0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:50.600
<v Speaker 1>the grandeur of this event.

0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:52.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, when you see.

0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:56.120
<v Speaker 3>All the banners and the signage and the grandstands and

0:15:56.160 --> 0:16:00.920
<v Speaker 3>the player hospitality is not bad. We're in there this week,

0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:05.760
<v Speaker 3>so that's nice. That's a nice little perk. Yeah, it's

0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:08.080
<v Speaker 3>definitely special. And I will say as the father of

0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:12.640
<v Speaker 3>a young girl who likes golf and is just kind

0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:14.720
<v Speaker 3>of getting started in the game, and we've ushered her

0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:19.120
<v Speaker 3>in very gently and gradually, I would say, slowly.

0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:23.200
<v Speaker 4>But it's ever since this.

0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.960
<v Speaker 3>Event was announced, I thought, what a joy it's going

0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:29.240
<v Speaker 3>to be to take Claire out there to see the

0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:33.640
<v Speaker 3>best female players on the planet play what we lovingly

0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:37.920
<v Speaker 3>refer to around here as Mama's golf course because her mother, Roslyn,

0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.120
<v Speaker 3>worked for the Pebble Beach Company for a dozen years

0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.880
<v Speaker 3>and so the family has a real connection to that

0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:48.960
<v Speaker 3>piece of land. And now not only does Claire get

0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.560
<v Speaker 3>to go out and see the best females players on

0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.480
<v Speaker 3>the planet and now Mackenzie Haun, someone she has spent

0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:57.480
<v Speaker 3>some time with last night, but she gets to see

0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.400
<v Speaker 3>her dad, you know, work in the event, and that

0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:01.640
<v Speaker 3>is really cool to me. I mean, that's a real

0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:05.080
<v Speaker 3>special treat for this family. And of course I hope

0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:09.240
<v Speaker 3>it inspires her to sort of want more of golf.

0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:12.400
<v Speaker 3>But whether it does or doesn't, it's a pretty remarkable

0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:15.560
<v Speaker 3>opportunity to have to have all these women here. And

0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:19.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, look, it's one of the world's greatest places

0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:22.200
<v Speaker 3>for golf. I mean, I just don't want to hear

0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:25.240
<v Speaker 3>any counter arguments to that claim. It's the best walk

0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:29.080
<v Speaker 3>in golf. The three of us and Sundry others have

0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:34.359
<v Speaker 3>seen a lot of spots, and a lot of really remarkable, wonderful,

0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:36.440
<v Speaker 3>delightful spots that we would all go back to.

0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:37.000
<v Speaker 4>In a second.

0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:40.960
<v Speaker 3>But there's no walk in golf like Pebble Beach. There

0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:45.960
<v Speaker 3>simply isn't. It is absolute purity, and the golf course

0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:48.040
<v Speaker 3>has never looked better. I've never seen it look better.

0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:49.679
<v Speaker 3>This winter helped.

0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:52.600
<v Speaker 4>You know. The guys and gals.

0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:54.840
<v Speaker 3>Who grow the grass around here are exceptionally good at

0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:58.800
<v Speaker 3>what they do. But I think Mother Nature has given

0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:02.040
<v Speaker 3>us a really special tread this year with with a

0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.280
<v Speaker 3>golf course that's just absolutely ready for prime time. And

0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:09.480
<v Speaker 3>I think from assuming that the fog stays high enough

0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:13.040
<v Speaker 3>from from the blimp or from whatever aerial camera had me,

0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:15.320
<v Speaker 3>sea musters up this weekend, this place is going to

0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:17.160
<v Speaker 3>look really, really good.

0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:20.800
<v Speaker 1>And it is such a company town. It's such a

0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:25.000
<v Speaker 1>such a small geographic area. So just driving around, seeing

0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:27.920
<v Speaker 1>the courtesy cars, seeing the players. Last night, I took

0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:30.440
<v Speaker 1>my kiddos to see the new Indiana Jones movie. We're

0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:33.400
<v Speaker 1>driving into the mall del Monte Mall and Monterey, which

0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:35.600
<v Speaker 1>some people know, and I saw a Curtisy cars like,

0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:37.840
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, that was j y Co And I

0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:40.760
<v Speaker 1>got all excited, you know, and they're like, who is

0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:42.400
<v Speaker 1>that said she's the best player in the world.

0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:43.080
<v Speaker 5>Are you kidding me?

0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:44.679
<v Speaker 1>Like, you know, it was just kind of just it

0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:47.479
<v Speaker 1>was just funny. So yeah, there's there is. You can

0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:49.560
<v Speaker 1>feel it around town. I mean, the street are packed

0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:52.680
<v Speaker 1>and uh and there there's just an energy that that's

0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:56.240
<v Speaker 1>really fun. It's kind of like I mean, you guys

0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:58.359
<v Speaker 1>have both been over to some of these events that

0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:02.120
<v Speaker 1>opens in Scotland where there's just one little town that's

0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.399
<v Speaker 1>like the host whether it you know, I think like

0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:06.640
<v Speaker 1>bumping into people on the street all the time those

0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:09.760
<v Speaker 1>weeks and this week it's kind of similar. So that

0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.600
<v Speaker 1>just adds a whole other kind of fun layer to it.

0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Just just the feeling in the air. It's definitely people

0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:18.520
<v Speaker 1>here excited. This is we should mention. You know, this

0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:22.919
<v Speaker 1>has been talked about for a long time. You know,

0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.199
<v Speaker 1>the Pebble Beach Company it kind of slow played it.

0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there was talking about bringing the Women's Open

0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:29.160
<v Speaker 1>here I think in twenty seventeen originally, and it kept

0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:32.399
<v Speaker 1>getting bumped back and there was a certain amount of

0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:36.199
<v Speaker 1>negotiating involved, and so there's been a long run up

0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.200
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of anticipation and you know, there's a

0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:42.919
<v Speaker 1>record number of qualifiers. Everyone wanted to be part of this.

0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:45.840
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's a big deal. When the Women's Open

0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:49.520
<v Speaker 1>goes to the citadels of the game, whether it's oakmant

0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:55.520
<v Speaker 1>or Pebble Beach, it elevates the entire events, and of

0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:58.399
<v Speaker 1>course these players deserve that they should play on the

0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:01.879
<v Speaker 1>best playing fields. To finally get a Women's Open here

0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:05.399
<v Speaker 1>is just really cool. And I saw a picture on

0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:09.200
<v Speaker 1>social media, a bunch of past champs, how playing golf

0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:11.959
<v Speaker 1>at Moniti. Penin's a country club today. You know, this

0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:15.240
<v Speaker 1>has turned into a gathering and it's sort of a

0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:18.960
<v Speaker 1>celebration that transcends even just this one tournament. So it's

0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:22.120
<v Speaker 1>special and it's cool that we get to experience it.

0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:26.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, it's interesting. You mentioned the energy around town.

0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:28.520
<v Speaker 3>It's probably greater than the energy on the golf course

0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:30.760
<v Speaker 3>right now, just the first couple of days because there

0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:35.440
<v Speaker 3>are no fans on site until Wednesday, so the practice

0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:37.840
<v Speaker 3>rounds are very quiet. You know, there are a few

0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:41.240
<v Speaker 3>people out there that sort of player guests, essentially very few,

0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:45.000
<v Speaker 3>but that allows us to kind of, i think, build

0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:48.240
<v Speaker 3>toward Thursday, especially for a young player McKenzie.

0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:50.680
<v Speaker 4>She's not played on this stage before. There's no getting

0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:52.280
<v Speaker 4>around that. She knows that.

0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:55.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm not telling you all anything. She doesn't know, right,

0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:58.680
<v Speaker 3>but to sort of build into it, and I'm sensing

0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:01.720
<v Speaker 3>sort of every team we get to she's getting more

0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:02.879
<v Speaker 3>and more comfortable.

0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:04.600
<v Speaker 4>And then on Wednesday, we'll.

0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:07.240
<v Speaker 3>Get some fans on the grounds and and we'll start

0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:10.640
<v Speaker 3>to feel the gallery a little bit and what what

0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:14.600
<v Speaker 3>it'll be like to play with the people and uh,

0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:16.919
<v Speaker 3>and then you know, the light turns green on on

0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:19.840
<v Speaker 3>Thursday and I think I think she's going to be ready.

0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:21.199
<v Speaker 4>But it's kind of a.

0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:23.720
<v Speaker 3>Slow build out of Pebble early in the week until

0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:26.800
<v Speaker 3>we get more more bodies on on the golf For.

0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:32.560
<v Speaker 5>Us, I'm I'm sort of just commenting on a lot

0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:36.239
<v Speaker 5>of things that you guys we're just talking about. I

0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:40.320
<v Speaker 5>you know, Pebble, I'm a I'm a NorCal guy. You

0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:43.439
<v Speaker 5>guys are you guys are locals right, Like I mean,

0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:46.440
<v Speaker 5>you guys, this is you know, Alan, we know your

0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:50.439
<v Speaker 5>story and working at Pebble to get your job at

0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:54.600
<v Speaker 5>Sports Illustration. The whole We've been out there with some

0:21:54.680 --> 0:22:02.200
<v Speaker 5>really uh in some incredible situations and had some incredible

0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:07.720
<v Speaker 5>experiences with friends and family or friends that feel like family,

0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:11.080
<v Speaker 5>and I mean we've had it's just been this, you know.

0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:15.760
<v Speaker 5>Just so I'm so grateful for like being able to

0:22:15.800 --> 0:22:20.160
<v Speaker 5>have such an intimate relationship with a place like Pebble Beach,

0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:23.440
<v Speaker 5>even if it's throwing balls for dogs at the beach

0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:26.639
<v Speaker 5>below the golf course itself. So there's just this reverence

0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:31.040
<v Speaker 5>and appreciation that we get to actually play on that

0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:36.080
<v Speaker 5>land or walk that land, while people are playing, and

0:22:36.119 --> 0:22:39.960
<v Speaker 5>I think it's really nice. You know, over the years,

0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:43.760
<v Speaker 5>AT and T played in February sometimes has bad weather

0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:48.119
<v Speaker 5>the Cross. You know, some players don't like Poe or

0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:50.639
<v Speaker 5>I don't like the weather, it doesn't fall, like, doesn't

0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:55.240
<v Speaker 5>fit in my schedule. I just think it's and that's

0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:58.160
<v Speaker 5>why I've always gravitated to the Pure Insurance where they're

0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:02.239
<v Speaker 5>in the September and the Champions the Champions Tour, and

0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:04.439
<v Speaker 5>the players that play on that tour seem to just

0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:10.520
<v Speaker 5>really appreciate and respect it more. They have this reverence

0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:14.840
<v Speaker 5>about that experience that I don't always necessarily feel from

0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:17.320
<v Speaker 5>like the PGA Tour players who are like so locked

0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:20.520
<v Speaker 5>in on just like winning and numbers and you know,

0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:25.320
<v Speaker 5>checks and you know, and and I think the reason

0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:27.679
<v Speaker 5>why I'm so excited about a week like this is

0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:33.159
<v Speaker 5>it's such a great fit for you know, like you

0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:38.080
<v Speaker 5>talk about citadels An Open, you know US Open, Mike

0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:40.159
<v Speaker 5>wand for all that he did for the LPGA and

0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:43.680
<v Speaker 5>the women's game in general, now you know, in charge

0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:47.800
<v Speaker 5>of the USGA and the timing of this event and

0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:50.119
<v Speaker 5>where he falls in the schedule, and like you said, Kevin,

0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:52.439
<v Speaker 5>like the condition of the golf course. It's just going

0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:54.680
<v Speaker 5>to be this convergence of like a lot of really

0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:59.480
<v Speaker 5>cool stuff and gratitude and appreciation and reverence and respect

0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:04.120
<v Speaker 5>for quite honestly, you know what I would consider very

0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:07.080
<v Speaker 5>clearly the number one public golf course in the country,

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:10.600
<v Speaker 5>and one could argue with you know, it's in the

0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:14.440
<v Speaker 5>conversation for best best in the world for the amount

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:16.480
<v Speaker 5>of court and I just I'm just looking forward to

0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:21.679
<v Speaker 5>like a week of that, you know, the imagery, the appreciation,

0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 5>the respect, the reverence, the gratitude that you know, this

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:28.280
<v Speaker 5>is a place we can get access to. It's not

0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:32.480
<v Speaker 5>for everybody, certainly gone way up in price, but they're

0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:35.359
<v Speaker 5>on occasion people save up and get to get to

0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:37.600
<v Speaker 5>walk this land and have this experience. And I'm really

0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:39.400
<v Speaker 5>looking forward to what transpires.

0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 4>Guys.

0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:42.760
<v Speaker 3>In eight and a half years of countying and Pebble,

0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:45.760
<v Speaker 3>I have yet to hear anybody come off eighteen Green

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:49.040
<v Speaker 3>and say, yeah, I don't know.

0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:51.720
<v Speaker 4>It just has happened.

0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:56.240
<v Speaker 3>Incredible, It has not happened, right, And that's whether someone

0:24:56.280 --> 0:25:00.159
<v Speaker 3>shoots five shots better than their handicap or fifteen shots worse, like,

0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:02.920
<v Speaker 3>it's not in the end, it's not about that. It's

0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:07.639
<v Speaker 3>it's just unmistakably special to everyone who's fortunate enough to

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:10.119
<v Speaker 3>walk through it. And you know, I've walked it a bunch.

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:13.280
<v Speaker 3>It hasn't gotten old yet for me, so you know,

0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:17.320
<v Speaker 3>it's it's it's still it's still just good, solid fun

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:18.000
<v Speaker 3>to be out there.

0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:19.480
<v Speaker 4>It just is well.

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 1>It's a nice kind of palette cleanser coming out of

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 1>La Country Club where it was. We don't have to

0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:29.399
<v Speaker 1>rehash it in great detail, but people know it. It

0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:32.919
<v Speaker 1>felt more like an Augusta national host where it was

0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 1>very exclusive and a lot of things happened behind the

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:39.159
<v Speaker 1>scenes that kind of dampened the enthusiasm. If you're on

0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:41.960
<v Speaker 1>the ground, it was more about it. There's like a

0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:46.520
<v Speaker 1>club event as opposed to a national championship and pebble beat.

0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:48.520
<v Speaker 1>It is expensive, I know all three of us have

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:50.359
<v Speaker 1>talked to us. We'd love to see the price go down.

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:55.280
<v Speaker 1>But the fact is anybody can play it. You can

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:58.479
<v Speaker 1>if you're a teenager. You can get a paper you know,

0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 1>paper route and they still deliver newspapers. I don't know.

0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 1>You can cut lawns like you know. You can give

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 1>you a graduation president can be an anniversary president. I

0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:08.640
<v Speaker 1>mean people do it all the time. Because my summer's

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 1>working out there. I used to as a car boy,

0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:12.919
<v Speaker 1>I used to see it and it is expensive, but

0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:15.320
<v Speaker 1>it's worth it, you know, the amount of money you're

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:18.920
<v Speaker 1>going to pay to play TPC Sawgrass or some crappy

0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:23.240
<v Speaker 1>course out in the desert. You know, at least Pebble

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:24.960
<v Speaker 1>is a lifetime experience.

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:28.399
<v Speaker 5>And the Shadow Creek Shadow Creek versus.

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's not quite the people's golf course like

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Beth Page you know, that's a special relationship, is essentially

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:39.760
<v Speaker 1>a muni and but it is one of the few

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:42.879
<v Speaker 1>courses that's in the conversation for the best in the

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:46.880
<v Speaker 1>world that anyone can play, and that that is special

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 1>and that's meaningful, and it does create that that connection

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:53.159
<v Speaker 1>as a viewer because a lot of people who be

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:56.400
<v Speaker 1>watching on TV will have will have played it once

0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:58.639
<v Speaker 1>or twice in their life, or their dad will or

0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:02.600
<v Speaker 1>there or someone they there intimate with U has a

0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 1>great Pebble Beach story and and that that does create

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:08.639
<v Speaker 1>an important connection at these events that I think is

0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:12.400
<v Speaker 1>really you know, having been at us Opens, at Tory

0:27:12.440 --> 0:27:15.120
<v Speaker 1>Pines and at Beth Page's, it's just fun to hear

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 1>the crowd because they've had that same shot, they've been

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 1>in that same bunker. They know that green better than

0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:23.120
<v Speaker 1>some of the players because they've been playing there every

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 1>weekend for you know, twenty years. And there is a

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:28.680
<v Speaker 1>little bit of that around Pebble Beach, where there's a

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:31.159
<v Speaker 1>sense of ownership, and I just I just think that

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 1>adds a whole other element to the to a big

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 1>tournament like this.

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:40.439
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, put, I fully agree, Kevin. What's the what

0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:43.320
<v Speaker 5>was the situation in terms of practice round? What what

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:45.679
<v Speaker 5>you texted that Aniko was involved today?

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 4>Right? We just we had Anica Sornstam on the t

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:53.199
<v Speaker 4>sheet with us, and at one o seven. At one

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 4>o seven, there was.

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 3>A you know, and and an amateur girl from Taiwan

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 3>who's going to play at the University of Oregon. Her

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:03.119
<v Speaker 3>her ball was first in the air and right behind

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:06.879
<v Speaker 3>her was was the goat. I mean there just with

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:11.679
<v Speaker 3>high I'monica, right introducing yourself to me. Well, I know

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:14.400
<v Speaker 3>who you are, and thank you for introducing yourself. Very

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:17.680
<v Speaker 3>nice to meet you. And so she played nine holes

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 3>and then had had another commitment in the early evening,

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 3>but she had she had her husband and son with

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 3>her for those nine holes, and it was fun to

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 3>watch them kind of interact with each other.

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 4>Little Will was carrying his mom around.

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.640
<v Speaker 3>Just as much as Mike was, so he definitely had

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 3>some some thoughts on how to play pebble, which is

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 3>he's a good little player, so it's it was kind of.

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 4>Fun to watch that family dynamic.

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 3>And I mean Onica's hands around the greens, it's it's

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 3>it's like, you know, Da Vinci on a canvas.

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 4>It's just it's just genius. It's just straight up genius.

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 4>It's for a for.

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 3>A golf nerd like me, it was you know, my

0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 3>focus is McKenzie obviously, but you know, here and there

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 3>you kind of catch on because little shots and practice

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 3>round set up where you know, we're dropping multiple balls

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 3>and playing different angles to different potential whole locations and

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 3>all that and just a real joy to watch her.

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 4>Watch her practice or craft out there.

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Had she hit it TD green, I mean.

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 3>Super solid right iron iron byron basically not not you know,

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 3>let's let's be honest, father time is what it is.

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 3>Not as far as she used to and not as

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 3>far as the younger players generally out there, but I

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 3>mean she hit it right where she was looking. She

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 3>hit it right where she was looking, time.

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 5>After time after time.

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 3>And you know, you know when we're when we play

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 3>with each other, it's like you catch one every now

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 3>and then. That's got that to her caliber, compression sound

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 3>to it. And one of the reasons we love the

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 3>game is when you when you get that audio feedback.

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, it's like every single shot for

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 3>all I guess, just right on the button. So fun

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:00.960
<v Speaker 3>to watch. I mean, you know, she's she's just good

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 3>at golf. She's really really good at golf.

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 5>And what was the interaction between Anka and Mackenzie and

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 5>was what were you were you trying to you know,

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 5>like how did all that?

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, you know you try not to sort of

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 3>overfan it. You want to let Honica go about her business.

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 3>And we and we did. We took we snapped a

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 3>couple of pictures with the younger players and Onnica, and

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 3>she was very gracious in doing so seventh te a

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 3>couple other spots when they parted ways on the tenth tee,

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 3>but the highlight for me was when Mackenzie absolutely bombed

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 3>one down into the perfect spot on the ninth fairway.

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's that sort of blind finish for her,

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 3>it's going all the way down the hill.

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 4>But we knew it was we knew it was perfect.

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 3>And Anica chimes in from the back of the tea box,

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 3>good drive. And so I leaned over to Mackenzie. I said, hey,

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 3>that does that feel good to hear Anica sorenstamp.

0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 4>So they good job. She goes confidence builder.

0:30:57.040 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 3>So you know, I think when when we're playing for

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 3>something on Sunday afternoon, we might look back on that

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 3>as a moment that kind of like almost freed McKenzie

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 3>up to feel like, hey, I belong here right Anka

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 3>saw it, she said it, I can hit it. I

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 3>can hit it with them. Now we just have to

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 3>get it in the hole. So it was cool to

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 3>have her out there for sure.

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any sense, Kevin, in the tournament rounds,

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 1>how much you'll read putts for Mackenzie And what is

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 1>that dynamic like because she's the player, she has her

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 1>way of doing things, but you know the course so

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 1>intimately and you have so much you can share. Have

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:37.040
<v Speaker 1>you talked about what she wants or are you still

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 1>feeling that out?

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 4>I have, yes, and yes, a little bit of both.

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 3>I asked right up front before we even went out

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 3>yesterday morning, because you always want to defer right to

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 3>her process, and this isn't about me, this is about her.

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:55.240
<v Speaker 3>I don't need to try to be a hero out here.

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean, my job is to get her from me

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 3>to B two C and where she wants and needs

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:03.160
<v Speaker 3>my items or my thoughts. I'm certainly happy to offer them,

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 3>and I will do so to the best of my abilities.

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 3>But I think I think I'm going to be reading

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 3>some putts. I think what we've kind of worked out

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 3>is I sort of want to know what she sees first,

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 3>and because so often you don't know how hard a

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 3>player kind of wants.

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 4>To hit a putt right, and especially at.

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 3>Us open green speeds even today, but certainly expecting more

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:33.239
<v Speaker 3>so Thursday through Sunday. Is you know you can make

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 3>it on four or five different lines, it's just how

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 3>aggressive do you want to be with the pace? So

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 3>I kind of want to see what she hear, what

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 3>she sees first, and then all essentially sort of overruled

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 3>out or different with that if I if I find

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 3>a compelling reason to do so, and maybe we'll talk

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 3>through the pace at which we want to hit the putt.

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I do think that local knowledge helps at pebbles.

0:32:57.400 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 3>There's no getting around the fact that there's some mysterious

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.560
<v Speaker 3>spots on some of the greens where what you see

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 3>in the micro environment of that green complex itself is

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 3>one thing. But the way it sits on the big

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 3>hill that runs from the ridgeline in the forest up

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 3>top down to the ocean, it means that there's some

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 3>there's some subtle but meaningful, kind of counterintuitive breaks, I think,

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 3>And we've had a few of those already, where you know,

0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 3>her first read was it goes right, and I said, no,

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 3>I think this one. You know, it's a little outside

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 3>outside the right, it's going left. And so but I'll

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 3>only I'll only differ if I if I have very

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 3>high conviction in that, because she's good at what she does,

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:44.280
<v Speaker 3>and and but there are some spots out there that

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 3>simply are not obvious unless you've seen it or done

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 3>it dozens of times. It just that's the way pebble works.

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 5>And isn't that why she Isn't that why she's having

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 5>you as a caddy, Like I mean, I think it

0:33:57.440 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 5>would fly in the face of the concept if why

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 5>take a local caddy who's in this system, who's obviously

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 5>been put forward as somebody who knows what they're doing,

0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:12.880
<v Speaker 5>and then not utilize at least get an opinion.

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:15.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah No, and she and she will and we're working

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 4>really well together.

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm saying that just kind of who it's kind

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:23.319
<v Speaker 5>of like. I think that's probably why she put in

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:26.239
<v Speaker 5>to have a look like I would imagine that would be.

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 5>That's a huge advantage to a not only know you

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 5>know the course, but also that you know what I

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 5>played golf.

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:36.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know I've I've had those putts,

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:39.239
<v Speaker 3>not in rounds that meant anywhere near near what what

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:41.920
<v Speaker 3>these rounds will mean to say the very least.

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 4>But it a read as a read a read.

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:47.360
<v Speaker 3>You know, I've played it probably in the high twenties

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 3>rounds at Pebblo career and and caddy to you know,

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:56.320
<v Speaker 3>close to four hundred times.

0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 4>Now, I would say.

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:01.399
<v Speaker 3>So, yeah, I mean they're there there. Look, I mean,

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 3>let's be honest, nobody gets every read right every time.

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 3>And there are some spots out there that that where

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:09.759
<v Speaker 3>there's subtle little ridges and if it's just a touch

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 3>on this side, it will go that way and just

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 3>to touch it.

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 4>So you know, it's tough and nobody's gonna make every put.

0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:18.439
<v Speaker 3>But but I think we've got a chance to We've

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:20.560
<v Speaker 3>got a chance to do some damage. I think I

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:22.319
<v Speaker 3>think we've got a pretty good thing working right now.

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 5>Hey, first of all, you're in the field, so you're

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:26.359
<v Speaker 5>you've got to you've got a chance to win it.

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 5>And second of all, like our buddy could be on

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:32.360
<v Speaker 5>the bag, like you could win a women's Yeah.

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 4>Well, one shot at a time, Matt. We were just fun.

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 4>We're gonna process. Yeah, the process. Yeah, no, anyway, it's yeah.

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:46.839
<v Speaker 5>We should just take a second or just to just

0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:48.879
<v Speaker 5>to thank our sponsor. By the way, we haven't even

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 5>discussed Dormy Workshop. By the way, who is the family

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:55.400
<v Speaker 5>business based in Halifax, Nova Scotia KP. Are you familiar

0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 5>with Dormy.

0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:58.240
<v Speaker 4>I am, yeah. I see there's stuff.

0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 5>It's good stuff, quality had head covers, leather accessories. I

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 5>met the Bishop Brothers at the PGA Merchandise Show about

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:08.279
<v Speaker 5>ten years ago. I love these guys, love what they do.

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 5>Go to Dormy Workshop dot com use promo code fire

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 5>Pit fifteen for fifteen percent off your next purchase, and

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:18.320
<v Speaker 5>we've got some really cool stuff at Firepitcollective dot COM's

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:21.720
<v Speaker 5>pitch shop if you want to headcover or a stash bag,

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 5>red white and blue, Happy Fourth, but we had to

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 5>get that taken care of. But KP, this is I

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:30.240
<v Speaker 5>just think it's so cool that you that you're having

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:34.399
<v Speaker 5>this opportunity given you who you are, what you are,

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:38.880
<v Speaker 5>your knowledge of this golf course. Mackenzie's tied to wiscon like,

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 5>this is just this is just stars aligned.

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:44.399
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, it feels good. I think we've got we've

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 3>got a little something going here and we're just going

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 3>to golf's hard, right and this golf course, this setup

0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 3>is going to be challenging, but we are going to

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:55.880
<v Speaker 3>do our absolute best. And this kid can play. I

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 3>mean she really can't play. I've seen enough golf at

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.240
<v Speaker 3>high levels to know it when I see.

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:04.720
<v Speaker 4>It, and she's a striker and a half.

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 3>And you know, as I said, it's probably just going

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 3>to sort of come down to, you know, can we

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:14.560
<v Speaker 3>keep it in the short grass often enough? And when

0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 3>we don't, because at some point it's going to happen

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:18.839
<v Speaker 3>for everybody in the field, You're going to play some

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:19.719
<v Speaker 3>shots out of the rough.

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 4>There is a little bit of there's a little bit.

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:23.680
<v Speaker 3>Of the luck of the draw and the rub of

0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:26.799
<v Speaker 3>the green in terms of the lie you draw a

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:28.799
<v Speaker 3>relative to the shot that you need to play in

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 3>that circumstance.

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:33.319
<v Speaker 4>So well, we'll hope for the best and do our best,

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:33.960
<v Speaker 4>that's for sure.

0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean some people may recall at the PG Championship

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:40.960
<v Speaker 1>the Michael Block story. One of the subplots was his

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:43.799
<v Speaker 1>caddy was this guy John Jackson, who is a spyglass

0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Hill caddy and was kind of living his own dream.

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Have you had any interactions with John and is there

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:52.960
<v Speaker 1>something in the water there in the caddy shack, like

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:53.480
<v Speaker 1>what's on?

0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:56.960
<v Speaker 3>I've had some past interactions, but John, we've played golf together.

0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 4>Great player, really good guy.

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 3>I like him a lot and not surprised to see

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:02.920
<v Speaker 3>him just you know, caddy has butt.

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:05.320
<v Speaker 4>Off for Block at o'kill.

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 3>I have not been in touch with him since that event,

0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:11.560
<v Speaker 3>so I I wish I could say I had been,

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 3>but just busy, busy days.

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:18.960
<v Speaker 1>So here's the thought exercise. Let's say that mackenzie wins

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:20.399
<v Speaker 1>this thing and asks you to become a full time

0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 1>caddy on LPG Tour. What's the answer. And let's say

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 1>your wife Roz not listening to this podcast, so you

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 1>can be candid.

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:33.240
<v Speaker 4>This is a question for Rosalind. I mean you know that.

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, let's get the boss.

0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:37.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, let's get her down the load.

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 5>Caddies, what are you in that relationship?

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 3>That's you know, I'm the I'm the endlisty. She's the

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:47.799
<v Speaker 3>admiral of the fleet, so she's in she's in charge

0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 3>of that. I mean, well, that's wild. I can't even

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:52.839
<v Speaker 3>one shot at a time.

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:55.719
<v Speaker 1>Man, come on, fine, yeah, table that.

0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I got a question, KP. So eight toll is

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:03.080
<v Speaker 5>a great example where yeah, right, So from the back

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:07.920
<v Speaker 5>te's you know, what are you what are you telling her?

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 5>I mean there is there's only far back, as far

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 5>back as you can go. So what was the yardage

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:15.920
<v Speaker 5>to the landing area that you would have suggested? And

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:17.799
<v Speaker 5>then what did she have in and what did she

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 5>hit in from.

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:19.839
<v Speaker 4>That particular yard?

0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:23.759
<v Speaker 3>Right, So we're we're one tea box up from the

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 3>back box. We're not at the box where the blue

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:31.719
<v Speaker 3>te's or US open marker would be. We're essentially at

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:35.799
<v Speaker 3>the back of the next box up. So depending on

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:37.919
<v Speaker 3>the wind, whether it's down wind to cross wind.

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:39.359
<v Speaker 4>It's very let's say no win.

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:41.840
<v Speaker 5>Let's say like no wind, what do you what do

0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:42.360
<v Speaker 5>you suggest?

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:44.680
<v Speaker 4>No win? To twenty five to thirty max?

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 5>Okay? And then when she got up onto the clearing,

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 5>you know how far did she have in?

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 3>We had high both days, hit shots essentially to the

0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 3>same spot and had in the mid to upper one

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 3>nineties and hit six em yesterday she hit it to

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:03.480
<v Speaker 3>four feet above the hole.

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:06.799
<v Speaker 4>And wow, made it, made it in the heart. Wow, yeah,

0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 4>made three on.

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:11.360
<v Speaker 5>Some she's hitting six iron from one ninety little downhill

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:13.960
<v Speaker 5>if you're saying no wind, four or.

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:18.239
<v Speaker 3>Five yards downhill and probably a club of help in

0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 3>the wind. So for McKenzie, her six iron is one

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 3>eighty plus or minus. So it was it was probably

0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 3>a one, you know, one eighty two shot and she

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 3>flushed it and it was right, it was all over.

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:31.360
<v Speaker 3>I was yelling at it to go in when it

0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:31.799
<v Speaker 3>was in the air.

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:34.839
<v Speaker 5>So get you do you feel comfortable in sort of

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:40.200
<v Speaker 5>her yardage breakdowns of normal flight right now from from

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:41.520
<v Speaker 5>you know, all the clubs in her bag.

0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:44.280
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't take a caddy long. Mattie.

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:48.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean we were I've got my hand on the clubhead.

0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:49.800
<v Speaker 3>She's thinking about in the wedge.

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:51.360
<v Speaker 5>What's her wedge?

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 4>Stock wedge pitching wedge mid one twenties.

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:57.840
<v Speaker 5>And stock seven iron.

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 4>Seven iron high one sixties close to seventy.

0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 1>I think I think Mackenzie might be longer than me.

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 1>How far is hit her driver.

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:10.720
<v Speaker 3>The little I've gone out to eighty five to ninety.

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:13.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's not it's not in the air quite

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:16.640
<v Speaker 3>that long. No, guys, she can hit it. She can

0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:16.960
<v Speaker 3>hit it.

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 4>She's she's Midwest strong is what she is. She's bad

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:20.920
<v Speaker 4>or strong.

0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:27.120
<v Speaker 5>And and and when you're when you are being asked

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:31.520
<v Speaker 5>for a read or when she says a spot, it's

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 5>you know, she's a good enough putter where you feel

0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:35.759
<v Speaker 5>like she's hitting spots and it's just a matter of

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:37.799
<v Speaker 5>speed and trust.

0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:40.400
<v Speaker 3>Maddie, You're you're tapping into my stress level a little

0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Speaker 3>bit because one of them one of the most stressful

0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 3>things to do is to read putts for people who

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:51.240
<v Speaker 3>hit their lines every single time, because if it misses,

0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 3>it's on you. And and she hits her lines, she

0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 3>hits her lines well, I mean, you know again, it's

0:41:59.000 --> 0:41:59.680
<v Speaker 3>like she's.

0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 4>Not a rope and nobody's perfect.

0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:03.920
<v Speaker 3>But I would say, on balance, she hits her lines

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:07.160
<v Speaker 3>really really well on the greens, and we've made a

0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:10.040
<v Speaker 3>bunch the last couple of days, so we'll keep trying

0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:10.279
<v Speaker 3>to do.

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:10.480
<v Speaker 1>So.

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:14.800
<v Speaker 5>How's her composure level in terms of dealing with the

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:19.759
<v Speaker 5>prestige of Pebble Beach and the idea that Anika was

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:23.839
<v Speaker 5>in her group? And is she feeling or looking or

0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 5>sounding overwhelmed or is she in the moment and and

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:29.360
<v Speaker 5>sort of capable.

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:33.760
<v Speaker 3>She's not even close to overwhelmed, at least not outwardly.

0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 3>I see no signs of that whatsoever. I've thought of myself.

0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:41.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, I was nowhere near that kind of player

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:44.560
<v Speaker 3>at that age, and it was never happening for me.

0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 3>But like you just envisioned yourself as a twenty four

0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 3>year old kid a year out of college who's played

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:54.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, a few many tour events and Illinois State Open,

0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:57.120
<v Speaker 3>that sort of thing, and it is obviously a very

0:42:57.200 --> 0:42:57.800
<v Speaker 3>very good golfer.

0:42:57.880 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 4>But how's it been on this stage before?

0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:03.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't know I would be you know, It's like

0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:06.120
<v Speaker 3>my second high school golf match was at Pebble Beach

0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:08.400
<v Speaker 3>back when it was Carmel High's home course, and in

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:10.279
<v Speaker 3>my prayer to the golf gods was to get the

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:13.359
<v Speaker 3>thing airborne off the first tea and that was, you.

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:17.600
<v Speaker 4>Know, come on, like non league, high school golf, non event.

0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 3>Right, this is the US Open. She seems cool as

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 3>a cucumber. She's just like, you know, tell me where

0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:24.880
<v Speaker 3>to hit it, man, what do you what's the number?

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 3>And boom there it goes. So she's she's I don't know, pro,

0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:31.279
<v Speaker 3>she's a pro.

0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:32.160
<v Speaker 4>She's a pro.

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:34.839
<v Speaker 3>So a little bit about the Hawnen family while we're

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:41.480
<v Speaker 3>talking about her, Her brother Jordan, named after Michael Jordan,

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 3>number twenty three by her Illinois parents' dad, big time

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:51.840
<v Speaker 3>Michael Jordan fan. I wanted to name the kid Jordan

0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 3>Michael Han, but mom overruled the middle name as just

0:43:55.160 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 3>a wee bit too much. Jordan is sixth at nine

0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:04.279
<v Speaker 3>and mondayed into the Valspar Championship and when he hit

0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:07.680
<v Speaker 3>his first t shot, my understanding is he became the

0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 3>tallest player to play in a PGA Tour event ever.

0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 3>So that's Mackenzie's two years older brother who also played

0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:16.880
<v Speaker 3>at Wisconsin.

0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:19.880
<v Speaker 4>Might I add, wow, Yeah.

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:22.960
<v Speaker 1>That's impressive. So the sick goes out there always have

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:24.920
<v Speaker 1>one question, what's the winning score going to.

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:30.160
<v Speaker 3>Be, Oh, my gosh, you know, great question. I think

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 3>so much depends on mother nature over the next few days.

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:36.960
<v Speaker 3>And I think, to your point earlier about this being

0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:40.719
<v Speaker 3>a kind of almost spiritually important event for the game,

0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 3>and for the women's game in particular, nothing's going to

0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:47.440
<v Speaker 3>change that it already is because it's happening. The only

0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:49.399
<v Speaker 3>thing that could put a damper on it at this point,

0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:51.799
<v Speaker 3>I think, is if we get real visibility issues, fog

0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 3>delays and that sort of a bit of wonkiness in

0:44:56.440 --> 0:44:59.320
<v Speaker 3>that sense where the golf course simply doesn't present itself

0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:01.080
<v Speaker 3>in front of them, in front of the golfers the

0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 3>right way. But let's say that we don't get that

0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:09.160
<v Speaker 3>much moisture in the air, and the thing dries out

0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:17.520
<v Speaker 3>a little bit and firms up six six under. There

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:20.480
<v Speaker 3>are birdies out there, right, I mean, Pebble has holes

0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:23.440
<v Speaker 3>that are gettable. It's it has a few holes that

0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:25.360
<v Speaker 3>are going to play long for some of these ladies,

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 3>and it has some holes that are going to play

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:29.719
<v Speaker 3>short for the entire field. And if you hit it

0:45:29.719 --> 0:45:32.759
<v Speaker 3>in the short grass, you can make birdies out there.

0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:34.720
<v Speaker 4>But the bogies and doubles.

0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:39.440
<v Speaker 3>Are that far away from the short grass, and uh,

0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:42.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, you obviously have the cliffs in play on

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:43.800
<v Speaker 3>a number of holes.

0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:45.680
<v Speaker 4>But even even if you always keep.

0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:48.920
<v Speaker 3>It on on one form or another of green grass,

0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:51.200
<v Speaker 3>it's if you're in the wrong green grass, it's going

0:45:51.280 --> 0:45:54.120
<v Speaker 3>to play really, really tough. I think somebody's you know,

0:45:54.200 --> 0:45:56.720
<v Speaker 3>more than one player is going to finish in red numbers.

0:45:56.719 --> 0:45:58.720
<v Speaker 3>There are just too many birdies out there for people

0:45:58.719 --> 0:46:01.359
<v Speaker 3>who are playing really good golf and hitting it, hitting

0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:01.719
<v Speaker 3>it in.

0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:07.840
<v Speaker 5>Play talk talk me through eighteen. You know, in terms

0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:10.400
<v Speaker 5>of how you know you're teen off middle of the

0:46:10.560 --> 0:46:12.879
<v Speaker 5>tee box pro.

0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:14.479
<v Speaker 4>Pretty far back, pretty far back.

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:18.279
<v Speaker 3>Actually the practice team markers have been not quite in

0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 3>the back back, but maybe a dozen steps short of that,

0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 3>and and off on the left slightly so okay, kind

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:28.240
<v Speaker 3>of on that little baby peninsula in the tea box.

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:31.200
<v Speaker 5>And how how far is she hitting in? What what

0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:33.279
<v Speaker 5>does she have in and where does she play to

0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:35.000
<v Speaker 5>or what does she even consider it?

0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:40.280
<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah, we've we've we've laid up both days second shots.

0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:42.800
<v Speaker 3>We've been right around the tree. There's been a headwind

0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 3>and moist, heavy air. So anytime you get that plus

0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:49.759
<v Speaker 3>a little wind into you it's just not going to

0:46:49.840 --> 0:46:50.520
<v Speaker 3>fly as far.

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:55.719
<v Speaker 4>But we've I think we hit well.

0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:57.400
<v Speaker 3>We hit in the right ferry bunker today, so we

0:46:57.440 --> 0:46:59.719
<v Speaker 3>had four and out of that really good, good low

0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:03.240
<v Speaker 3>flo four iron and then and then uh fifty degree

0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:07.719
<v Speaker 3>wedge onto the green. I don't so I think two

0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:12.319
<v Speaker 3>and six will be reachable for a for a substantial

0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:13.240
<v Speaker 3>chunk of the field.

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:14.160
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:18.799
<v Speaker 3>Fourteen just flat out isn't and eighteen I don't think

0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:22.520
<v Speaker 3>will be for very many. I just don't see that happening.

0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:25.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm by no means am I saying nobody's going for it.

0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:27.440
<v Speaker 3>Some will have a chance and we'll go for it

0:47:27.480 --> 0:47:29.680
<v Speaker 3>and we'll probably reach it. But I think that's a

0:47:29.719 --> 0:47:31.200
<v Speaker 3>it's a small minority of the field.

0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:34.120
<v Speaker 1>And two is a part five. Is interesting because that's

0:47:34.160 --> 0:47:38.160
<v Speaker 1>how everyday players face it for the US Open, that

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:39.480
<v Speaker 1>they've converted into a part four.

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:41.560
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, and the and the guys play it as

0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 3>a part five for the AT and T. But we're

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 3>we're we're all the way at the back of that

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:50.759
<v Speaker 3>tea box. So it's you got to you gotta put

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:52.960
<v Speaker 3>a pretty good strike on that T shot to go

0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:55.319
<v Speaker 3>for that one. But but that will happen, and some

0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:57.120
<v Speaker 3>in the field will certainly be able to get there,

0:47:57.160 --> 0:48:00.880
<v Speaker 3>but uh, for a non trivial part of the field,

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:02.440
<v Speaker 3>it's going to be kind of auto lay up.

0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:06.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm so happy for you, keV. I'm so happy for

0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:11.440
<v Speaker 5>Mackenzie that the serendipitous situation in which she was looking

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:14.279
<v Speaker 5>for someone like you and got you as a guy

0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:17.680
<v Speaker 5>who has had you on my bag on countless occasions

0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:20.719
<v Speaker 5>and a lot of rounds at Pebble. She's she's very

0:48:20.840 --> 0:48:23.759
<v Speaker 5>lucky to have you. But you're also really I'm just

0:48:23.880 --> 0:48:26.520
<v Speaker 5>really happy that you got this opportunity and that you're

0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:29.640
<v Speaker 5>inside the ropes and all of the all of your

0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:33.960
<v Speaker 5>hard work and the walks and all the Jabbroni amateurs

0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:36.279
<v Speaker 5>you've had to caddy for over the years, has has

0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:39.160
<v Speaker 5>lent itself to this opportunity to play, to carry a

0:48:39.239 --> 0:48:43.920
<v Speaker 5>bag of real a real professional and watcher, navigate this,

0:48:43.920 --> 0:48:47.959
<v Speaker 5>this golf course, this this cathedral, the citadel, as you said, Alan,

0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:51.800
<v Speaker 5>and then under these circumstances just really cool. I'm I'm

0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:54.320
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to be captivating. I was already going to

0:48:54.360 --> 0:48:56.920
<v Speaker 5>be really excited about what was going to transpire, and

0:48:56.960 --> 0:48:58.880
<v Speaker 5>then to have you as a subplot to all of

0:48:58.920 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 5>this is really cool.

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:02.640
<v Speaker 3>I appreciate you, Maddie, thank you for that. I will say,

0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:05.279
<v Speaker 3>you know, this is the first time I've carried a

0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:09.960
<v Speaker 3>real tour bag, a legit tailor made staff bag, and

0:49:10.320 --> 0:49:12.160
<v Speaker 3>I just want to say, for the listeners at home,

0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:16.120
<v Speaker 3>those things are heavy. Okay, they are heavy, Like I'm

0:49:16.160 --> 0:49:18.960
<v Speaker 3>in reasonably good shade. I pack a couple of bags

0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:21.520
<v Speaker 3>around those golf courses a few dozen times a year.

0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:23.879
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm a little creaky.

0:49:23.520 --> 0:49:26.520
<v Speaker 3>Tonight after two days of that bag, and it's it's

0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:29.920
<v Speaker 3>like the diameter and the bulk and and yet and

0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:32.920
<v Speaker 3>yet I am light on my feet because there's so

0:49:33.040 --> 0:49:37.120
<v Speaker 3>much energy behind this and we're having a great time together.

0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:39.000
<v Speaker 3>And I love the fact that our mom and dad

0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:41.319
<v Speaker 3>are here and super supportive of her. They've walked every

0:49:41.360 --> 0:49:43.800
<v Speaker 3>step of the way with us both days. And brother

0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:47.600
<v Speaker 3>flew in today, so he's going to be here. And

0:49:47.640 --> 0:49:49.239
<v Speaker 3>it's it's a it's a joy to be a part

0:49:49.280 --> 0:49:51.760
<v Speaker 3>of it, and a great event for Pebble, the community,

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:53.920
<v Speaker 3>the game of golf and the and the women's game

0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:54.600
<v Speaker 3>in particular.

0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:55.560
<v Speaker 4>So I appreciate you.

0:49:55.520 --> 0:50:00.640
<v Speaker 3>Guys shedding some extra light on what's happened at Pebble

0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:02.520
<v Speaker 3>Beach this week and can't wait to see how it

0:50:02.520 --> 0:50:03.040
<v Speaker 3>plays out.

0:50:04.360 --> 0:50:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's that's well said. That that's a great ending point.

0:50:07.120 --> 0:50:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I will say we we thought about having Mackenzie on

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:11.600
<v Speaker 1>this podcast. We want to put any extra pressure on her.

0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:13.719
<v Speaker 1>We'll see how the week goes. If if she has

0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:15.560
<v Speaker 1>a nice week, we're going to try and get her

0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:17.200
<v Speaker 1>on Sunday. You need to talk about it, so that

0:50:17.200 --> 0:50:20.440
<v Speaker 1>would be that would be fun as well. But I

0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:23.640
<v Speaker 1>second everything that that Matt said, and it is a

0:50:23.680 --> 0:50:25.880
<v Speaker 1>special thing that we all get to share in. And

0:50:26.520 --> 0:50:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I think the listeners will pick up on your passion

0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:33.319
<v Speaker 1>for this, Kevin, and also your knowledge, and so we'll

0:50:33.400 --> 0:50:35.680
<v Speaker 1>check in with you as the week goes on. I'm

0:50:35.719 --> 0:50:39.160
<v Speaker 1>going to be I'll be out there because of kids'

0:50:39.160 --> 0:50:41.040
<v Speaker 1>schedules and everything else. The one time I could take

0:50:41.040 --> 0:50:43.440
<v Speaker 1>all my kidds on a little family adventures early part

0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:45.640
<v Speaker 1>of this week, but I'll be I'll be out at

0:50:45.719 --> 0:50:47.440
<v Speaker 1>the I'll be out there and write a big game

0:50:47.480 --> 0:50:49.839
<v Speaker 1>story Sunday night and be there on for the third

0:50:49.920 --> 0:50:53.319
<v Speaker 1>round as well. And it's going to be I think

0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:55.200
<v Speaker 1>it's just gonna be a great celebration like you said,

0:50:55.280 --> 0:50:58.520
<v Speaker 1>and I actually don't mind the fog. I think I

0:50:58.560 --> 0:51:00.960
<v Speaker 1>think the courses are more beautiful, dear when it's foggy,

0:51:01.040 --> 0:51:04.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, with the cypress trees, and.

0:51:04.320 --> 0:51:07.880
<v Speaker 3>It's great, exactly great, great playing conditions with a little overcast.

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:11.640
<v Speaker 3>It really is kind of less exposure that everything looks

0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:16.319
<v Speaker 3>really clear with a with a high gray sky. The

0:51:16.400 --> 0:51:19.160
<v Speaker 3>problem yesterday was we couldn't see where we were hitting it.

0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:21.319
<v Speaker 3>So as long as we stopped short of that, we're

0:51:21.320 --> 0:51:23.719
<v Speaker 3>going to be absolutely good to go all week long.

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, good stuff. All right, Well, this is another fire

0:51:27.600 --> 0:51:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Drill podcast. That was Matt Janella, Kevin Price is Alan Shipnik.

0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:33.799
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for listening. We'll be back in your ear

0:51:33.880 --> 0:51:37.960
<v Speaker 1>soon and from Pebble Beach signing off. That's the end

0:51:38.000 --> 0:51:38.640
<v Speaker 1>of this podcast.

0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:39.080
<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:47.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm bed big lad the wind nay fortune with my

0:51:47.520 --> 0:51:48.080
<v Speaker 2>ship game.

0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:48.520
<v Speaker 3>Man.

0:51:49.760 --> 0:51:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I ran the table, never thought I could fall, Then.

0:51:53.040 --> 0:51:56.360
<v Speaker 2>The wind and hit me. Lack of can in the ball.

0:51:58.320 --> 0:52:03.600
<v Speaker 5>And now catch agelists losing the street. Every road I

0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:05.720
<v Speaker 5>take is a dead end street.

0:52:07.840 --> 0:52:11.399
<v Speaker 2>I got thoughts in my head, can't get them out,

0:52:12.160 --> 0:52:15.160
<v Speaker 2>trying not to think what I'm thinking about.

0:52:15.440 --> 0:52:16.839
<v Speaker 1>I got thoughts in.

0:52:16.880 --> 0:52:21.200
<v Speaker 2>My head can't get them out. Trying not to think

0:52:21.400 --> 0:52:22.840
<v Speaker 2>what I'm thinking about,