1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: Pete Mavaqua, Notre Dame athletic director. A couple of months ago, 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: I said, oh, I look forward to talking to you again. 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: I didn't know we would be talking about this. How 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: did we get here? Pete? 7 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 3: Dan, first of all, yeah, thanks, thanks for having me on. 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 3: It's good to see you. Yet yesterday, that's the question. 9 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 3: I don't know how we got here. That's kind of 10 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 3: what we have a problem with. I don't have a 11 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: good answer for you, you know, and a lot of conversations 12 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 3: here on campus the last twenty four hours, as you 13 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 3: can imagine, and you know, I want to make one 14 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 3: thing clear, Dan, we have no problems with the teams 15 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 3: that made it in. They're all great teams. You know, 16 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 3: Miami's a great team, Alabama's a great team, if Texas Vanderbilt, 17 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 3: we're a great team. What we're so confused by and 18 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 3: frustrated with is the process. You know, every step along 19 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 3: the way, since the first CFP rankings came out, we 20 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: were led to believe we were in as long as 21 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: we took care of business, and we certainly took care 22 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 3: of business with this ten game winning streak. Then you 23 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 3: think about that first ranking. You know, we and Miami 24 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: were both six and two. They had obviously already beat 25 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 3: us the first game of the year. They were eighteenth, 26 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: we were tenth. You know, the only thing that we 27 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 3: did since that point was win every game by over 28 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: an average of over thirty points. And you know, all 29 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: of a sudden, we're eleventh and on the outside looking in. 30 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 3: And you know, when we sit and talk, when I 31 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 3: talked to Marcus, when when we talked to our team, 32 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: we don't have any good answers for that. So we're 33 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 3: just we're just really frustrated that we had the rug 34 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 3: pulled out from underneath this. 35 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 2: Stan Were you able to lobby at all Sunday morning, 36 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: you know, or I had the decision been made that 37 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: you were not going to make the playoffs? 38 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know exactly when the decision was made. 39 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: You know, we you know, we made our case. We 40 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 3: stayed at our point of view. But again, if you're us, 41 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: we were told from day one of the rankings that 42 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 3: you know, we were in and we were ninth, and 43 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, you know, we go play 44 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 3: a game against Stanford. I felt like in the middle 45 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 3: of the night, you know, and we took care of business, 46 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 3: and Alabama has a really tough game against an Auburn 47 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 3: team that's having a tough year. And we wake up 48 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: on Tuesday and we fall below Alabama for the first time. 49 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: And it was all about the fierce conversation between Notre 50 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: Dame and Alabama, and I heard something to the effect 51 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 3: that Alabama went forward on fourth down, so that made 52 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 3: an impression, and just our heads were spinning, like, where's 53 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: the logic, where's the rationale? Why are we being kind 54 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 3: of punished and the only ones that seemed to be 55 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: moving in the wrong direction and yet winning and having 56 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: an unbelievably you know, dominant end to the season. It's 57 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: just we're confused, we're sad, and damn we're frustrated. 58 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: And I was told there's nothing that's secret in those meetings. 59 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 2: It eventually gets out. And I was told during last 60 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: week that it felt like where Alabama was ranked, that 61 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: Notre Dame, in the words of my source, you guys 62 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: were being set up for disappointment. So this is somebody 63 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: involved in this. And then all of a sudden, the 64 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: Miami situation, which if they ranked Miami ahead of you fine, 65 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: I don't have any problem with that. I just didn't 66 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: understand the rationale. And then I wondered, did the ACC 67 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: lobby at all? Did what role did the ACC play 68 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: in any of this? In your opinion? 69 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 3: Well, I would tell you I mean again, I have 70 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: tremendous respect for Miami, you know, the great team, great school, 71 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 3: their athletic director, Dan Radikovich is a good friend, and 72 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: all the teams in the ACC, great wonderful universities. We 73 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 3: have no gripes about any of the schools in the ACC. 74 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: But we were mystified by the actions of the conference 75 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 3: to attack you know, their biggest really business partner in 76 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: football and a member of their conference, and than twenty 77 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: four of our other sports. And I would tell you, Dan, 78 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be honest with you if I didn't say 79 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 3: that they have certainly done permanent damage to the relationship 80 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: between the conference and Notre Dame. 81 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: What do you mean, just we. 82 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: Didn't appreciate the fact that we were singled out repeatedly 83 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: and compared to Miami, not by Miami. Miami has every 84 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 3: right to do that, but it raised a lot of 85 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: eyebrows here that the conference was taking shots at us 86 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 3: and you know, that's just not something we chose to do. 87 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: We wouldn't choose to do that in the future. People 88 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 3: might disagree with us, but that's just not something that 89 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 3: we'd be comfortable with. And again, we have no problem 90 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: with any of these teams. These are all great teams. 91 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 3: And you look at those teams Miami, like I said, 92 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 3: great season, they beat us. You think about Alabama, and 93 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 3: nobody's had more success in college football over the last 94 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 3: decade than Alabama. But Dan, you know, I mean you 95 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 3: follow the sport so closely. Everybody was saying that we 96 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: were one of a handful of teams that could win 97 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: this whole thing. We have zero percent chance. Even Nick Saban, 98 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 3: you know, nobody knows more about college football maybe in 99 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 3: the history of the world than Nick Saban, you know, 100 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 3: and he said it yesterday, like, how is Notre Dame 101 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: not in this? I mean, everybody's just kind of confused 102 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 3: and perplexed, and we don't have good answers for the 103 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 3: kids on our team, for our student athletes. 104 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: Are you're going to reevaluate your relationship with the ACC 105 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 2: the overall relationship, I would just say it's been strained, irreparable. 106 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: Well, you never say, irreparable, but it's opened our eyes 107 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 3: and you know, we we it caught our attention. But 108 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: you know, we'll we'll, we'll move past this like we are, 109 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 3: you know, as you know, we're already focused on next season. 110 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: Uh. 111 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 3: You know, we made the decision not to play in 112 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: a bowl game, as I know you're you're well aware, 113 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: and a lot of a lot of people have asked 114 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: me about that, and you know, and Marcus, we watched 115 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 3: the Present Day Show, the selection show with the team 116 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: and then Marcus, like he always does, was wonderful, got 117 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 3: up and for somebody that always has great answers, he 118 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 3: was brutally honest with the team and said he didn't 119 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 3: have a lot of answers. Doesn't understand how this happened, 120 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: Why this happened, Why a team that thought it was 121 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 3: doing what it needed to do all of a sudden 122 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 3: kind of woke up on kind of the wrong side 123 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: of this. And then just as you're kind of dealing 124 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: with that, you start getting these calls from other bowls. 125 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: And you know that the role of a captain on 126 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: the Notre Dame football team is a role that the 127 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 3: program and Marcus takes very very seriously and he could 128 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 3: talked to all the captains, you know, I said, hey, 129 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 3: what are you guys thinking, What's what does the team thinking. 130 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 3: Let's talk about this, And you know, to a person, 131 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 3: the captains and some of the other you know, underclassmen 132 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: on the team said, listen, we are such a close 133 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: knit team. We've done so much this season. We overcame 134 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 3: those two opening losses, we rallied, we dominated in the 135 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 3: last ten games. We can't imagine taking the field not 136 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: as that team. And it's reality, Dan, You know that 137 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 3: certain players wouldn't participate in that game. You think about 138 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: somebody with the future that he has, like a Jeremiah Love, 139 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 3: a Jadarian Price, Eli Rarid, and you know Emil Wagner, 140 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 3: who's one of the most impressive people I've met in 141 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 3: my life. Hopefully after he's done playing football, I hope 142 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: he runs for president one day. It just wouldn't be 143 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 3: the same. And you know, made the decision that it 144 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 3: was time to start thinking about next season. Give these 145 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 3: these student athletes a break. They have exams coming up, 146 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 3: and then you know, really hopefully they'll they'll go home 147 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 3: and spend Christmas in the holidays with their family and friends. 148 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: Feels like a message being sent as well, Pete. 149 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 3: Well we're not happy, Dan, that's for sure. 150 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 2: Help me understand this though. So are you guaranteed a 151 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: playoff birds if you're twelve or higher next season? 152 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 5: Yeah? 153 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 3: I don't want to say too much about the memorandum 154 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: of understanding, but that's certainly been reported. That's out there, 155 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: and what you said is accurate. 156 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: So next year, if you're ranked in the top twelve, 157 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: you're automatically in the playoffs. Correct, Okay? And everybody agreed that, 158 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: like this was drawn up my Notre Dame and then 159 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: the college Football Playoff Committee said we'll sign off on that. 160 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: Well, it was part of the negotiations as we were 161 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: contemplating the various changes that go into the committee and 162 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 3: in preparation for the extension of the ESPN deal. 163 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: Are we looking at a sixteen team field next season? 164 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: Dan? I go back to what I said when you 165 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 3: were here on campus for the USC game. I firmly 166 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: believe that the right answer is sixteen teams with five 167 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 3: automatic qualifiers and eleven at large. And maybe there's no answers. 168 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: You know, think about this year, Dan, If seing we 169 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 3: were four teams, there wouldn't be any arguments. I mean, 170 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 3: those four teams, I think that's crystal clear. Those are 171 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 3: the right four teams. I don't think anybody would argue 172 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: so for twelve, fourteen, sixteen. I happened to think sixteen 173 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: is the answer. I think the majority of the vast, 174 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 3: overwhelming majority of the people in the college football management 175 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 3: committee room agree with me. I think anything beyond sixteen, 176 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: in my opinion, is a mistake because it would interfere 177 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: with the importance of the regular season. And all, by 178 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: the way, did we feel that this year, right? But 179 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: that's important? 180 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 5: Right? Yeah? 181 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 3: You know, we knew we had two tough games played. 182 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: You know, well, we certainly got better over the course 183 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 3: of the season, but we lost the two great teams 184 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 3: by a total of four points. We felt we had 185 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 3: zero wiggle room. We felt we did what we needed 186 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: to do. It turns out we didn't have a chance, right, 187 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 3: And that's what's so disappointing. But I think sixteen teams 188 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 3: with the five and eleven format is the way to go. 189 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: Dan Pete Mvauqua Notre Dame Athletic direct joining us. But 190 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: when is this voted on? When is this decided or 191 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: is it already decided? 192 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 3: Now, what's been a series of conversations for the better 193 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 3: part of a year or more. As you saw, it 194 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 3: was reported that we have a bit of an extension 195 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 3: from when we need to inform ESPN of what the 196 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: format will be. We'll meet as a group over the 197 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 3: National Championship weekend. I'm not sure if anything's going to 198 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: get resolved as it relates to format in that room 199 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 3: at that time, but these conversations are ongoing. If I 200 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: had to guess what happens next year, I think there's 201 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 3: a good chance we stay at twelve. I hope we 202 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: can keep pushing for sixteen. But Dan, I just don't 203 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 3: know how that's going to end. 204 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: College football is at a crossroads, it feels like, but 205 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 2: it does take something to make change. So maybe what 206 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: happened here with Notre Dame brings about change, so it 207 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: could be a catalyst. Do you see it that way? 208 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 3: Well, again, we're frustrated with the process, not the teams. 209 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 3: They're all great teams, and it's a bunch of teams. 210 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 3: B Yu has a great argument. Texas, Vanderbilt, Miami, Alabama, 211 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 3: Notre Dame. We all have great arguments. It's the process 212 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 3: that bothers us. 213 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: Why those ranking shows bother me, Pete, because. 214 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 3: Well they bothered me too, because you know, if we said, well, 215 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 3: if we had assembled as a team on Sunday and 216 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 3: rankings hadn't told us for the previous weeks, we're in, 217 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: we're in, we're in. Take care of business, take care 218 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 3: of business. And hey, you know what, Notre Dame, you're eleven, 219 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 3: and now you're going to get squeezed out because the 220 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 3: conference tie ins and Miami beat you, and hey, I 221 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 3: get it. But these ranking shows, as I said yesterday, 222 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: like what's the point why kind of send these signals 223 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 3: and get the hopes up of these of these teams, 224 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 3: these coaches, these kids on the team that believe they're 225 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: doing everything necessary. And then, like I said, it just 226 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: felt in that room a collective sense of the rug 227 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 3: being taken out from under us without any explanation at that. 228 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 3: I've heard Dan that has me feeling better about it. 229 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: Casual fan here's this and says it's sour grapes, Notre 230 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 2: Dame trying to be bigger than everybody more important. You 231 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: would say, what. 232 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 3: Well, listen, everybody kind of wants to do right by 233 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 3: their team. We felt like we did what we needed 234 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: to do this season to earn a spot in the 235 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: college football playoffs. We feel that we have one of 236 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 3: the very best teams in the country. I think the 237 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: majority of people who follow this sport so closely agreed. 238 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 3: Every indication we had from that first ranking suggested that 239 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: that committee agreed with us. We were always being compared 240 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 3: to Alabama. We couldn't possibly have ended the year any 241 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 3: better than we did. I get why people think it's 242 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 3: sour grapes, but you know it's disappointment. 243 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 5: Dan. 244 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 3: I mean this is we take this seriously, as do 245 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 3: other universities, and you know, the rankings can't just be 246 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 3: musical airs at some fifth grade birthday party. They have 247 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: to mean something, and to me, what happened to us 248 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 3: really kind of was alarming. 249 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 2: Just to get you on record, you're not anti pop tarts, right, 250 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: because you guys were reportedly going to the pop Tart 251 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: Bowl to play BYU Dan. 252 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 3: That the irony in that is I love pop tarts, 253 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 3: and I particularly love the brown sugar pop tarts. I 254 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 3: probably need too many of them now. I'm a huge 255 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 3: fan of pop tarts. That's nothing to do with pop darts, Okay. 256 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: I just want to make sure we got that on record. 257 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 2: I would say, great to talk to you again, but 258 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: thanks for We appreciate you coming on and giving your 259 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: side of the thing. If the people watching on TV 260 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: behind you, what are all those numbers behind you? 261 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 3: So these behind me, these are actual bench seats from 262 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 3: Notre Dame Stadium. So when we did the extension and 263 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 3: the renovation and created crossroads here, there were some of 264 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 3: the original seats left over, so we created a wall 265 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 3: here with some of the original bench seats in Notre 266 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 3: Dame Stadium. So this is the back of my office 267 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 3: that you're looking at. 268 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 2: How old are those seats? 269 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 3: Probably some of them different ages but on different panels, 270 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 3: but some of them are over a century old. 271 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: Thanks again, Pete, We appreciate your time now. 272 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on Dan and good to see 273 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 3: you and hope to see us soon. 274 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: That's Pete Levauqua. 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Fox Sports Radio on YouTube. 287 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: Subscribe, hit that thumbs up icon and comment away. Tony Garcia, 288 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: covering Michigan football for the Detroit Free Press, kind enough 289 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: to join us on a busy day. I know you're 290 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: at the courthouse there, Tony. What is Sharon Moore being 291 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: held on? What are the charges? 292 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 5: Yeah? 293 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: Good morning Dan. 294 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 4: As of now, there are no official charges to this 295 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 4: point that have been made publicly. So Shron Moore was 296 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 4: investigated for this assault investigation that is going on. 297 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 2: Things moved pretty quickly yesterday. 298 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 4: So Drummore was fired for a cause on Wednesday after 299 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 4: an investigation found credible evidence he had an inappropriate relationship 300 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 4: with a staffer. I'm told there had been an internal 301 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 4: investigation dating back a couple months, and then recently in 302 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks, they brought in an outside firm, 303 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 4: which corroborated things and moved that over to the athletic department. 304 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 4: Separately from that, multiple law enforcement agencies responded to a 305 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 4: call for mister Moore just outside inn Arbor around four 306 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:13,479 Speaker 4: pm yesterday, less than one hour before the firing was announced. 307 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 4: The investigation currently is into an alleged assault and mister 308 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 4: Moore has been detained by the Pittsfield Township Police and 309 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: he was transported to the WASHINGTONA County jail overnight where 310 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 4: he was held. That's where we are right now in 311 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 4: the fourteen A District Court here in Washington County. 312 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: How was he informed that he was fired? 313 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 4: Those details are not quite public. I've been told that 314 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 4: yesterday there was a team meeting. The athletic director came 315 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 4: in to the team facilities and informed the staff and 316 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 4: the players, but mister Moore was not there. 317 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: At that time. 318 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 4: So I sometime in the previous in the past forty 319 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 4: eight hours, is he is when he was told specifically, 320 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 4: but it's not clear where he was at all time. 321 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: And this has been swirling. I had gotten word at 322 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 2: the end of October. Now I don't know if that 323 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: lines up with anybody's timeline, but once again, I didn't know, 324 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 2: you know, if there was any fire to it. There 325 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 2: was certainly smoke, and I didn't know if it was 326 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 2: a smear campaign or just somebody putting something out on 327 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: social media. But I did get a heads up from 328 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 2: a source. But then it kind of went away. When 329 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 2: did it resurface where you knew that this was something 330 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 2: that was credible? Yeah? 331 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 4: Really in October, Like you just said, Dan, that is 332 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 4: when the week of the Michigan State game was the 333 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 4: final week of October. That is when the university started 334 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 4: investigating this, and there had been word and other reporters 335 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 4: had heard as well that there was not quite the 336 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 4: findings to move forward with this. And then something changed 337 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 4: in the last couple of weeks where a smoking gun 338 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 4: up sorts was found that much to me is not 339 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 4: yet clear whom it was, but things things evolved pretty 340 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 4: rapidly in the last ten or so days. 341 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 2: Were these recruits signees given any heads up that their 342 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 2: coach his job was in jeopardy. 343 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 4: It doesn't sound like it from what from what I've heard, 344 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 4: but I've also been told that this investigation and the 345 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 4: findings of this investigation was not held intentionally post signing 346 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 4: day because remember this in this day and age, in 347 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 4: this transfer portal era, once a head coach leaves, everybody 348 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 4: is free to enter the transfer portal market as they 349 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 4: see fit. So this would have they could be on 350 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 4: the on the move anyway, and they have they have 351 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 4: free reign to do so immediately. 352 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 2: And fifteen day window here for these new signees and 353 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: those players who are currently on the roster, that's right, 354 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 2: which will almost. 355 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 4: Overlap into when the portal opens again and in January. Right, so, 356 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 4: people players in the Michigan program most of the next 357 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 4: six weeks or so plus they're gonna they're gonna be 358 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 4: eligible for transfer. 359 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 2: And so we'll see. 360 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot of damage control going on 361 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 4: in and around behind the scenes right now. 362 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 2: Talking to Tony Garcia joining us from the courthouse. He 363 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: covers Michigan football and basketball for the Detroit Free Press. 364 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 2: Will Charon Moore appear in court this morning? That's our expectation. 365 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 4: We are here in the in the lobby at the 366 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 4: fourteen A Districts Court. We've been a colleague and I 367 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 4: have been walking around to different court rooms trying to 368 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 4: find it. But it seems as though there's some TV 369 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 4: monitors over to my lacked here. They may just arraign 370 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 4: him via zoom and display it on TV in court. 371 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 4: So I'm not sure if we're going to get to 372 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 4: be in person for anything. 373 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: The coaching search is underway, I'm sure give me a 374 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: short list here of you know, the true potential candidates. 375 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a couple that really come to the top 376 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 4: of mind for me. One of them is Jedfish at Washington, 377 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 4: he has had ties to the Big Ten, to Michigan specifically, 378 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 4: where he was a quarterbacks coach, wide receivers coach, passing 379 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 4: game coordinator under Jim Harbaugh in twenty fifteen sixteen, and 380 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 4: he's led a couple of nice successful programs in the 381 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 4: past five years. He turned to Arizona around he took 382 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 4: over after they went zero to five in the COVID 383 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 4: nineteen short and twenty twenty season. He won just one 384 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 4: game that first year, but by year three he was 385 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 4: ten and three. He beat Oklahoma in a bowl game, 386 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 4: and so he seems to know how I mean. And 387 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 4: that's a lot fewer resources than here in ann Arbor, 388 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 4: and then recently the past two years at Washington, nothing 389 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 4: to truly write home about. Six and seven two years ago, 390 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 4: and then eight and four this past season, but Camon 391 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 4: DeVore had left right for Alabama and that roster was 392 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 4: completely gutted. So I don't think anybody thought he was 393 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 4: going to make a bowl game that first year. And 394 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 4: he's done a great job this year as well, with 395 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 4: just even winning eight games with another roster I think 396 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 4: over under before the season was six and a half. 397 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 4: So he's exceeded expectations again. And then I just mentioned 398 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 4: the other name came on the boar. Sounds like things are. 399 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 4: I mean, there's been a lot going on in Alabama 400 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 4: and in Tuscal loose, and we know the fan base 401 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 4: is not exactly happy with the job. He's done nine 402 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 4: to four in his first season, missing college Football playoff, 403 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 4: just making it in there this season. I wonder if 404 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 4: he doesn't wait for someone in Tuscal lucid to make 405 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 4: a call in one year if he doesn't win a 406 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 4: national championship and he sees a program that has all 407 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 4: the resources, all the money, the infrastructure that you could 408 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 4: want as a winner. Obviously just won a national championship 409 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 4: two seasons ago. Those would be my top two names 410 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 4: on the list right now. 411 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, But does in Alabama have all those things that 412 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 2: you're telling me Michigan has. Oh, certainly they do. 413 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean it's a long shot, right and 414 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 4: I don't I don't think, but he has. 415 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: He has ties to this area as well. 416 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 4: So at Eastern Michigan, he was an offensive coordinator from 417 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 4: twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen, which is shut just up 418 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 4: the road in Ipsilani. And then he got his start, 419 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 4: or really i'd say he made a name for himself 420 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 4: in the Big Ten with Indiana with Michael ed Indiana 421 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 4: with Michael Pennix before he then took him to Washington 422 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 4: and led them to a national championship loss, ironically to Michigan. 423 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 2: All right, let me let me throw out a name 424 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: that probably would not be popular, but he's free right 425 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 2: now and he's got experience, and that would be Brian Kelly. 426 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 4: I knew where you were going to go with that, 427 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 4: and I tweeted out yesterday and maybe this is a 428 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 4: chance for cold takes exposed or something. It's not going 429 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 4: to be. It's it's not going to be Brian Kelly. Okay, 430 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 4: there are there is breath. There is brass that is 431 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 4: not that are not Brian Kelly fans, and now I 432 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 4: will leave it at that. 433 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: Great stuff. Good luck today. Thank you, Dan, appreciate having 434 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 2: me on. It's Tony Garcia. It covers Michigan football for 435 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 2: the Detroit Free Press at the Courthouse there. 436 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 437 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 438 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to listen. 439 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 2: Live Shaquille O'Neil the SHAQ Funhouse that'll be at the 440 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 2: Big Game in San Francisco, and you can get tickets 441 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 2: beginning today at ten am Pacific at shaqs Funhouse dot com. 442 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 2: Good to see you again. Did LSU ever try to 443 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 2: get you to play football when you were there? 444 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 5: No, they did not. I wanted to because you know, 445 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 5: you know the story. You know the story. I started 446 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 5: off as a football player. I was a tight end 447 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 5: and noseguard. I actually loved football because I love inflicting 448 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 5: pain on people. 449 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 2: Who was the coach there, Mike Archer was see the 450 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 2: coach when you were there? 451 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 5: I think it was yeah, yeah, Mike Archer. But they 452 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 5: have a player who actually taught me how to be 453 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 5: a superstar. His name was Tommy Hutson and you know 454 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 5: Tommy Hodson for Heisman. He didn't end up winning the 455 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 5: Heisman Trophy, but he was like a he was like 456 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 5: he was like everything on campus and I just saw 457 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 5: how nice he was to people and how respectful he 458 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 5: was and how much respect he got. So I know 459 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 5: he's watching the show. So Tommy Hudson, I love your brother. 460 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: Was his number fifteen? I don't remember fifteen or eighteen? 461 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 2: For some reason, I remember him. 462 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember. He's like a He's like a gorgeous 463 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 5: tom Brady. Tom Brady's hot. 464 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 2: Are you You're all in on Lane Kiffing? You feel 465 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 2: good about your head coach? Now? 466 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 5: Of course I do. Whoever you know they decided to pick. 467 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 5: You know, Lane Kiffin is a great one. He's gonna 468 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 5: be making a lot of money and I know he's 469 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 5: gonna be bringing in some heavy recruits. It's time for 470 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 5: LSU to get back on track, like the like the 471 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 5: I think it's The interim athletic director of Verge Olsbury 472 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 5: said she was all about winning championships. That's all we 473 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 5: wanted to do. 474 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 2: I'm curious nowadays, if you were at LSU, you'd be 475 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 2: a one and done. But you stayed three years. 476 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 5: I wouldn't be one of done. 477 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 2: You would not. 478 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 5: No, you know why, because with this nil stuff, I 479 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 5: would definitely be at the top of the list, right 480 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 5: and I would milk that. And if you're a top 481 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 5: in a al guy, I think you can make more 482 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 5: than what these rookies are making on that contract. But again, 483 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 5: college is all about education, so I would try to 484 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 5: get as much education when it comes to business as 485 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 5: I can. So let's just say I'm making eight, nine 486 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 5: to ten million dollars a year for ben Il deals. 487 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 5: I'm musa stay. That's thirty million right there. I'm gonna 488 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 5: have thirty million in the bank, and I'm gonna have 489 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 5: the knowledge of what to do with this thirty million. 490 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 5: I'm gonna have business acumen, and I'm gonna know everything 491 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 5: about the NBA, and I'm gonna be very fundamentally sound. 492 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 5: I would never be one and done. I would actually 493 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 5: take advantage of the educational system. Everybody always talks about money, 494 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 5: But if you're getting nil money, well, I go to 495 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,719 Speaker 5: the NBA and become a professional, and then you know, 496 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 5: get money, get less money. 497 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 2: Who knows, why haven't you bought a professional sports team yet? 498 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 5: I'm working on a brother what sport NBA? Okay, in 499 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 5: a perfect world, I would love to be part of 500 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 5: the Orlando Magic or the Miami Heat. In a perfect world. 501 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 2: What do you think that that would you would want 502 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 2: to be the sole owner or just buy into it? 503 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 3: Oh? 504 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 5: No, never the sole own, just you know, limited partner. No, 505 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 5: I would love to have that conversation. 506 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: A couple of random questions here the All Star format? 507 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 5: What do you think I haven't I haven't been paying 508 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 5: attention to it, Daniel, Eugene Patrick. 509 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 2: And okay, but if you have the World against the 510 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 2: United States. 511 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 5: I like it. I like it. I like it, and 512 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 5: I think they should add a big monetary reward at 513 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 5: the end. 514 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be fine with that. I just want I 515 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 2: want to know if the guys want to play, they 516 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 2: want to compete, and if they don't, then they should 517 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: not try to fool us. But I think the you know, 518 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 2: non Americans European players are going to be playing for 519 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 2: pride as well to say are bad? What the five 520 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: best players in the sport are from outside the United 521 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: States right now? 522 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 5: And I agree with you, And if I was in charge, 523 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 5: I wouldn't make it to where they would would definitely 524 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 5: have to compete. I put a two million prize at 525 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 5: the end. The loser gets nothing and a big old 526 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 5: trophy and big old rings and brag rights, saying that 527 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 5: the best in the world. You want the Americans the 528 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 5: best in the world of not prove it here doing 529 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 5: All Star Weekend. If I was in charge, I would 530 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 5: have this game cracking. 531 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: Give me the game plan against Joker. If you played 532 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 2: against him. 533 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 5: Every time he shot a three, run by him, posts 534 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 5: up in the lane, have with him and his whole 535 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 5: team complain about three seconds. I wasn't a pick and 536 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 5: roll the defender, so he would definitely get open up 537 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 5: the pick and roll because Jamal Murray coming off the 538 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 5: pick and roll, I would have to help defishing those 539 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 5: guys and they throw back to him. He will probably 540 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 5: get every shot he won. Now the question is is 541 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 5: he gonna guard me one on one or are they 542 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 5: gonna double down with Aaron Gordon. But every time he 543 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 5: shot a three, hopefully he missed, I'm just going run 544 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 5: right by him and now, and you know, my game 545 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 5: plan would be to win, to jump all and try 546 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 5: to get him two to two quick foules. But again, 547 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 5: I'm not a good pick and roll defender. So he'll 548 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 5: definitely get his shot. He'll definitely get his points. But 549 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 5: the question is, what are you gonna do with me 550 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 5: on the other end. 551 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: Well, the same thing with Wemby. What would be your 552 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: game plan with Wemby? 553 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 5: You have to back him under the rim and just 554 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 5: throw it down in his face. To jump books is 555 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 5: not It's similar to the Kim jump hooks and the 556 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 5: little jump hookes, a little cute sea food seat move 557 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 5: by the basket. It was not gonna work. You have 558 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 5: to dunk on him and try to, you know, intimidate him. 559 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 5: He is much lighter than I, so I know I 560 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 5: can get to my spot and turn with the elbows 561 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 5: up and get him off bounced a little bit, and 562 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 5: then try to quick dunc lem. But on the other end, 563 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 5: I probably have no answer for him because I'm not 564 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 5: known for defense, so I don't know why people always 565 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 5: try to make decail. I'm not known for stopping people. 566 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 5: And guess what, people are not known for stopping me either. 567 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 5: Games like that. When I played against great bigs, it 568 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 5: was all about that rhythm. So I remember early against 569 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 5: Dave Robinson always being foul trouble with the same day 570 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 5: with Patrick Ewan. So I would try to get those 571 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 5: guys in foul trouble, but it'll definitely be an exciting game. 572 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 2: Why do you only have one MVP? 573 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. 574 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 5: I have no idea. Like I I argue with Charles 575 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 5: all the time. What's the criteria? You know when you 576 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 5: say the most valuable player? I always thought it as 577 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 5: an individual as a single player, you know, is it 578 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 5: built on teams success? I don't like we needed we 579 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 5: need a national m v P NBA criteria on what 580 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 5: it takes to be m v P. So there's no 581 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 5: questions asked at the end like, oh, he should have 582 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 5: got he should have got it. Well, this guy meets 583 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 5: all the criteria, whatever the criteria is to become m VP. 584 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 2: Does the m v P ever come up in conversation 585 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 2: when you're around Steve Nash? 586 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 5: No, not at all. 587 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: Is that a good thing? 588 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 5: Listen? Listen? Steve was a funeral player, was a great player. 589 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 5: And you know in this and and in this thing 590 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 5: that we have, and you know you're part of this thing, 591 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 5: certain things happen. So they said, whoever they may be, 592 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 5: said that he was two time MVP. Oh for me, 593 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 5: I have to accept that lipid it, you know, I 594 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 5: you know, I joke about it every now and then. 595 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 5: But Steve was an MVP cover and he was a person. 596 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 5: Steve was. Steve was much watch TV. 597 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 2: We're talking to Shaquille O'Neill. It's the Shocked Funhouse presented 598 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 2: by Credit One Bank. So this is going to be 599 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 2: at the Super Bowl. This is going to be in 600 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: San Francisco's history cal Palace. So you got t pain, Tiesto, 601 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 2: disco lines and you DJ Diesel and. 602 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 5: That and my Miles on there. He's actually a great DJ. 603 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 5: This will be for the eighth year in the row, 604 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 5: the number one party at Super Bowl. Dan, you've been 605 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 5: at Super Bowl where people just standing around and talk 606 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 5: and drink cocktails with This is, like I said, presented 607 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 5: by Credit One Bank. We got a carnival rides, we 608 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 5: got uh we got food, we got refreshments, we got DJs. 609 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 5: It's gonna be a great time. And I started this 610 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 5: thing eight years ago and was very nervous about how 611 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 5: we was gonna go, and went very well, and then 612 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 5: we've been taking off since then. For the eighth year 613 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 5: in a row, I expected to be crowned the number 614 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 5: one party follow about ports illustrated. 615 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 2: Party, the shack delicious excel gummies. 616 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,719 Speaker 5: Yes, shacklicious excel gummies where people will be uh uh 617 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 5: instructed to bite my head off. 618 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 2: But these are just chocolate. These aren't like No, they're gummies? 619 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 2: Are there? Pot gummies? 620 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 5: Dummies? No, not pot gummies. 621 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 2: I didn't know. Those are the gummies that I have. 622 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 5: I am an athlete, sir, I do not I do 623 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 5: not partake in such activities. 624 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 2: You never gotten high? No, no, never tempted? 625 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 4: No. 626 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 5: The only thing I do is smoke hookah. 627 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 2: Did that give you a buzz? 628 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 4: No? 629 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 5: I just do it for the smoke. 630 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 2: What about cigars, yes, cigars too, Oh yeah, cigars. Cigars 631 00:32:54,960 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 2: are great. The Lebron situation now with Luca and then 632 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 2: you got Reeves and now Lebron kind of kind of 633 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 2: get integrated, reintegrated. Can he be a complimentary player? 634 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 5: Do you think? I mean? I don't want to be 635 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 5: the one that saying Lebron is a complimentary player. It's 636 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 5: just that I think Lebron knows and understands that at 637 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 5: some point this thing comes to it in and Lebron 638 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,959 Speaker 5: has always been a team guy first. So know, right 639 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 5: now he's integrated. Listen, Austin Reeves is playing lights out. 640 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 5: Luca is the leading scorer NBA, He's playing lights out. 641 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 5: I mean, little Lebron smart enough to know when that 642 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 5: these guys cook and you know, meet me. You know, 643 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 5: Lebron say I'll take over. So maybe I'm not gonna 644 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 5: be the guy saying Lebron, you need to be a 645 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 5: complimentary player. Lebron knows and understand how to win. He 646 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 5: knows and and understands how to run a team. And listen, Uh, 647 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 5: all the greats go to this point. You know, we 648 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 5: have great beginnings, we have great middles, and then at 649 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 5: some point it comes to it in Saturs day for 650 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 5: me is when there will be no more Lebron, no 651 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 5: more Durant, no more Steph Curry, no more Draymond. Like 652 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 5: that's gonna be a Saturday for me. And then I 653 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 5: have to, you know, reintegrate myself with all these young guys. 654 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 5: But you know, watching these guys and you know I'm 655 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 5: playing against these guys and you know, see what they 656 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 5: did after we after I left the game. Is when 657 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 5: those guys are going, I think I'd be a very 658 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 5: sadday for me. 659 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 2: Who will you miss more between Steph Lebron and KD. 660 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 5: I don't miss all of them. You know they're all great. 661 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 5: You know Hardens on that list, My my guy Westbrook's 662 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 5: on unless Draymond's on that list, the honest unless, like 663 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 5: it'll be it'll be sad for me because I enjoyed 664 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 5: watching them guys compete as youngsters and then turn it 665 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 5: into the great players, the Hall of famers that they are. 666 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 2: Uh, how's your free throw shooting? 667 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 5: Terrible? Only only hit them? Only hit them when I 668 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 5: need to hit them. 669 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 2: You know you tell me that, I know. 670 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 5: You told me that you No, I've heard you there, 671 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 5: that you were there in the finals. 672 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 2: I don't miss. I don't miss though. I mean people 673 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,959 Speaker 2: were surprised when you made their surprised when I missed. 674 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 2: That's the difference. 675 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 5: Okay, I hear you. 676 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 2: Are you challenging me, Daniel, I'll make eight ten blindfolded, 677 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 2: Daniel Fitzgerald Patrick? Yes? 678 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 5: Yeah? 679 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 2: Am I afraid of you at the line? No? 680 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 5: Okay? Yeah, Well next time, next time I'm in your city, 681 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 5: I'm gonna come by your studio. 682 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: I'm fair enough for you that. But you would have 683 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 2: been a three? Would you have been a three point 684 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 2: shooter or tried to be if you played now. 685 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 5: But I would have definitely been able to bring the 686 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 5: ball up, initiate the offense called offense, go coast to coast, 687 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 5: throw it down. I probably would have only shot the 688 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 5: three if we were up more than ten fifteen points. 689 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 5: This would get crowd to the name. But I'm not 690 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 5: going to shoot five or six threes. 691 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 2: Hell no, never, all right, I'm just curious if you 692 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 2: because big men always want to do what the little 693 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 2: guy does. 694 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know, dribble and dribble handoffs and you 695 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 5: know between the leg and crossover and step back. But 696 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 5: I'm not shooting no threes. 697 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 2: It is the party of all parties. If you're at 698 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 2: the Big Game Super Bowl weekend in San Francisco Shack's Funhouse, 699 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 2: You're going to have a t Paine tiesto, disco lines 700 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 2: and Shack himself DJ Diesel. Tickets on sale today ten 701 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 2: am Pacific. Go to Shacks. That's plural, Shacksfunhouse dot com. 702 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 2: Shack is aladocious. Thanks again, great to see you, buddy. 703 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 5: Daniel Oswaldpatrick. I appreciate you