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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody. Monday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off

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Speaker 2: right now. Got a lot to talk about, generally what

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Speaker 2: happens on Monday right the avalanche of news from over

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Speaker 2: the weekend. We will make sense of it all for you.

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Speaker 2: We will dive into the latest. We'll take some of

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Speaker 2: your calls as well. Lines are open eight eight A

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Speaker 2: two and up at Clayanbuck dot com. We're gonna put

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Speaker 2: a poll up with regard to the Iowa caucuses, which

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Speaker 2: are seven days away. It feels like it took forever,

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Speaker 2: but now it is here. Voting is imminent. It will

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Speaker 2: be upon us shortly. In this primary we shall discuss

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Speaker 2: all that. We've also got the Secretary of Defense disappearing

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Speaker 2: to the hospital and even to the ICU. This is

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Speaker 2: Lloyd Austin of the Obama regime disappearing for a few days.

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Speaker 2: People are saying what's going on there? Plus Democrats continuing

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Speaker 2: to have real problems at the border based on the polling,

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Speaker 2: the American people are waking up to what a disaster

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Speaker 2: the US Mexico border actually is. Nancy Pelosi, aoc others

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Speaker 2: we have time, we may even get into the latest

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Speaker 2: Clay on the plagiarism wars billionaire Bill Ackman, female four

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Speaker 2: hundred meter distance runner. This came up over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: not us, but this happened somewhere else. It went viral.

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Speaker 2: We will discuss whether we think we could get up

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a little But Clay the

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Speaker 2: official opening of everything we're going to be hearing from

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden and the well from the campaign, really the

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Speaker 2: Biden campaign going forward, which is that January sixth was

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Speaker 2: the worst thing ever. This was the guy who's supposed

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Speaker 2: Here he is bragging about j six protesters being sentenced

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Speaker 4: One desperate act available to the violence of January sixth.

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Speaker 4: He says that day, more than one two hundred people

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Speaker 4: to date, they have been sentenced to more than eight

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Speaker 4: hundred and forty years in prison. What's Trump done? Instead

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Speaker 4: of calling them criminals, He's called these extra these insurrectionist patriots.

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Speaker 4: He promised to pardon them if he returns to office.

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Speaker 2: Clay, the centerpiece of Biden's campaign is it's all over

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Speaker 1: I think this has landed so flat already, Buck, and

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Speaker 2: And this is all he's.

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Speaker 1: Got, Buck is jan six threats to democracy and abortion.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned that CBS poll, it's seventy five percent of

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Speaker 2: But this is important, though, I think Clay. It resonated

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Speaker 1: So it's hard to argue that you are a pro

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Speaker 1: other words, I think that Democrats may well have overreached

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Speaker 1: There should be consequences for riots. But there's a difference

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Speaker 2: Well, it would be like saying, no one can vote

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Speaker 2: I probably should just stop the sentence there. But voting

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Speaker 2: I mean viciously. It is like a DC goulag. Beyond that, Clay,

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Speaker 1: But at some point reasonable people say, Okay, that went

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Speaker 2: And you know, we've been saying what we think the

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Speaker 5: He needs to ramp up the attacks he did yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Clay to your point about about Charleston. Uh there, you know,

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Speaker 1: Which happened before Trump even announced, I believe for his

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we shall discuss some of this here coming

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Speaker 3: They're here to shed light on the truth every day.

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Speaker 3: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 2: So I'm here with Clay and we're just having a

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Speaker 2: speaking of Carrie, we have a review for you, Clay

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Speaker 2: later in the show on the Barbie movie, which I

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Speaker 2: seen the Barbie movie. I'm gonna hold that.

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Speaker 1: One because people are You're just going to movie theaters

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Speaker 2: It's on HBO. Oh no, no, no, I thought you

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Speaker 2: And I just went like, were you complaining about movie

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Speaker 1: That's always been by the way, the movies work right,

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Speaker 2: I can pretty much tell well, I can definitely tell

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Speaker 2: Here is Liz Cheney on well, not only is she

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Speaker 2: So can I just be clear? So quote, look in

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Speaker 2: This is called being a Democrat. And it's fascinating because

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Speaker 2: He's not as bad as I thought every time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, I did watch the extended version

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Speaker 2: They extended version? Very is this is a this is

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Speaker 2: The nerds were like, buck, don't say this stuff out loud.

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Speaker 2: Keep just keep this quiet.

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Speaker 1: Keep this deers a lot and then a lot of

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Speaker 2: Pretty awesome because there's a lot of medieval hand to

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Speaker 2: that tells everybody immediately you are hashtag resistance, you are

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Speaker 2: it's effectively a bumper sticker that you pay thirty dollars for.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that Mary? Was it Mary Trump who

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what the it's not even a biography,

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Speaker 2: Of a book is on hers. Impossible. It's very hard

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So the only thing I can think is that

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Speaker 2: Now, I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just people who hate Trump, and I

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Speaker 1: they raise those millions of dollars from Democrats, what's the

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Project and all these people, it's not just Trump like,

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Speaker 1: they're never this is the pack.

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Speaker 2: It always it always turns into, you know, a strange

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Speaker 2: newfound respect for this former Republican who hates Trump from

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Speaker 2: the New York Times and MSNBC, and eventually they just

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Speaker 2: become Democrats. I mean, this is the phenomenon that you

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Speaker 2: see playing out over and over again. And you see

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Speaker 2: it by the fact that they have to feed more

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Speaker 2: to the audience than just their anti Trump hatred. So

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Speaker 2: they start pulling other Republicans and they're like, oh, I

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Speaker 2: hate vivp too, and I hate the sentis and you

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Speaker 2: know they go down the list, So that's not a surprise.

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Speaker 2: We mentioned this. I did just want to play it.

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Speaker 2: And this is MSNBC's Jonathan cape Hart talking about January

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Speaker 2: sixth and emoting this is cut six. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: try to get through this. Oh my thank you for

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Speaker 2: what you did three years ago. Today, please tell me

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on this third anniversary.

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Speaker 1: We are still in the midst of the same fight

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Speaker 1: that began.

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Speaker 2: On January sixth. The other thing about all this play

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Speaker 2: and we have Liz Cheney talking about the medieval hand

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Speaker 2: to hand combat, and you have Jonathan k Part crying

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Speaker 2: as he talks. I don't he wasn't there, but crying

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Speaker 2: as even talks about this thing because it's so emotionally

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Speaker 2: painful for him. Where were all these individuals when there

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Speaker 2: were marauding gangs destroying everything on my every storefront on

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Speaker 2: my street and looting them, all of them Biden voters,

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Speaker 2: all in the name of the Racial Equality and Social

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Speaker 2: Justice Movement of BLM, which is just a Democrat mobiliza entity,

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Speaker 2: that's all it is. Like, where are all these people

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Speaker 2: when they were punching police officers and gathering outside of

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Speaker 2: the White House when Donald Trump was president and they

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Speaker 2: tried to burn down an ancient and historical church right

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Speaker 2: next to the White House. Where were they? I'm just

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Speaker 2: wondering where these people are so upset.

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Speaker 1: Here is the prediction. You can flag this one. If

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump wins in November of twenty twenty four, right

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Speaker 1: ten months or so from now, everything that happens after

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Speaker 1: that election is going to make January sixth look like

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Speaker 1: a picnic. I mean it is going to be buildings burning,

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Speaker 1: oral votes for Donald Trump. It's just a prediction.

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Speaker 2: Flag it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe nobody will show up at all.

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Speaker 1: Maybe there won't be a single building that burns, maybe

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Speaker 1: there won't be a single riot. I would be stunned.

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Speaker 1: If Trump wins, there will be I think massive riots

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Speaker 1: all over the country, and everybody who's been trying to

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Speaker 1: talk about January sixth as a unique threat to America

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Speaker 1: will be thrust once again buck into this question.

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Speaker 2: I think it'll be way harder for them.

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Speaker 1: I do because they overlook the six months of burning

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Speaker 1: America that we had in twenty twenty because it's convenient

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Speaker 1: to them and people have short memories. But after the

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Speaker 1: way they have built up January sixth, I've said this before.

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Speaker 1: I think if Trump had narrowly won in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: I think Democrats would have stormed the Capitol. Do you

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Speaker 1: think they would have just set back and said, oh,

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Speaker 1: Trump's the duly elected president again. No, I think they

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Speaker 1: would have been out of their minds. There was at

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Speaker 1: least as much, if not more, anti democratic sentiment in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen when Trump won. I think in twenty four

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Speaker 1: it will be just as bad, if not far worse

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Speaker 1: than twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us as we sit here

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Speaker 1: one week until the actual first votes are going to

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Speaker 1: be cast in Iowa. We'll take some of your calls

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Speaker 1: by the way, next couple of hours eight hundred and

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 2: But Buck, I put up a poll question.

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Speaker 1: I want to get the last of it because I

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Speaker 1: only allowed it for an hour online.

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Speaker 2: UH.

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Speaker 1: And the final results are in over twenty one thousand

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Speaker 1: people voted and Trump is your winner.

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Speaker 2: But what's interesting about this is what is the what

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Speaker 2: is the battle.

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Speaker 1: Ground going to look like for the ultimate one on

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Speaker 1: one versus Trump contender. We know that Viveke is not

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Speaker 1: going to It would be the upset of the century

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Speaker 1: for Theveke to end up UH as the winner. And

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Speaker 1: so Vivek's out, Chris Christie is out. We know that

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Speaker 1: we're really in a battle between Nicky Haley and Ron

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Speaker 1: DeSantis to see who could be the alternative to UH

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Speaker 1: to Donald Trump and get into that one v one matchup.

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Speaker 1: So DeSantis has put all his eggs in the basket

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Speaker 1: at Iowa. What does it have to look like? In

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Speaker 1: your mind for DeSantis to be able to claim victory

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Speaker 1: in Iowa one week from today. To me, if and

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Speaker 1: I'll give you my answer, and then I'm curious how

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Speaker 1: you would assess this. To me, if DeSantis can be

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Speaker 1: buck around ten points behind Trump and if Trump doesn't

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Speaker 1: get over fifty percent of the vote, that would allow DeSantis,

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Speaker 1: if he finishes second, to have some measure of success.

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Speaker 1: Nicky Haley, I think needs to find a way because

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Speaker 1: she's put all of her eggs in the New Hampshire basket.

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Speaker 1: But the way I look at it, and tell me

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Speaker 1: if you disagree, it seems to me like we're headed

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Speaker 1: for DeSantis coming in second in Iowa and then Nicky

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Speaker 1: Haley coming in second in New Hampshire and will have

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Speaker 1: a split. And I don't know whether either of them

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Speaker 1: then drop out. And I think Chris Christy will drop

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Speaker 1: out and endorse Nicki Haley. That would be my expectation.

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Speaker 1: Vevek has already told us on this show that if

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Speaker 1: he ever drops out, he would endorse Trump. We know

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Speaker 1: that that is a Trump related component. So how would

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Speaker 1: you see this shaking out? To me, it feels like

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Speaker 1: even if we get into a one v one, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna take too long potentially, and does the alternative have

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Speaker 1: the juice to ever beat Trump? Nicky Haley's argument is, Oh,

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Speaker 1: when I get to South Carolina, I will I don't

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Speaker 1: know that I buy that.

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Speaker 2: What do you think? So? You know, it's all about

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Speaker 2: momentum change. That's the hope of anybody who's campaigning here

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Speaker 2: other than Donald Trump. Right. Trump has more than just

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Speaker 2: the momentum. He has built a sense of, by the

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Speaker 2: poll numbers, inevitability to be the Republican nominee. And I

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Speaker 2: think it's very unlikely that you're going to see that

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Speaker 2: change in one night or because of one contest, But

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Speaker 2: that would be the hope, is that you go from

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Speaker 2: Trump is invincible and therefore inevitable as the nominee to

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Speaker 2: maybe Ron DeSantis or maybe Nicky Haley can close this

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Speaker 2: gap and continue to close it as they go forward.

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Speaker 2: That would be the hope. I know. We had some

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Speaker 2: callers who were asking the last hour explain the Iowa

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Speaker 2: caucuses a few things. It's technically caucuses, right, because each

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Speaker 2: one little meeting is a caucus, correct, So you who

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Speaker 2: people say Iowa caucus, that's shorthand not technically correct. Caucuses.

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Speaker 2: You got over sixteen hundred precincts. People gather together and

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Speaker 2: it's at like churches and meeting halls. It's kind of

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Speaker 2: like a neighborhood political sit down, and they all start.

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Speaker 2: There's like a a pledge of allegiance, I think, a prayer.

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Speaker 2: They appoint someone to be the head of that particular caucus.

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Speaker 2: They then have a secretary who will tabulate the votes

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Speaker 2: and they start voting. And then once they've gone through

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Speaker 2: see who wins the most precincts, and that's then how

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Speaker 1: But what I would say is it's not like you

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Speaker 1: right ideal situation, it's not very crowded. You go in,

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Speaker 1: you can vote all day. The caucus is set for

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Speaker 1: a specific time. You show up and basically you make

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Speaker 1: caucus leader. Then people inside of that room vote, they

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Speaker 1: which is different than this traditional way you would show

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Speaker 2: I know the Republicans have some differences from the way

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Speaker 2: Democrats do this. And this is all run not by

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Speaker 2: it's not paid for by taxpayer dollars, so it's not

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Speaker 2: like official election you know people are running. It's run

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Speaker 2: by the by the parties respectively. And yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: I think there's some things that people are already pointing

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Speaker 2: to Clay like it's going to be it's supposed to be,

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Speaker 2: even by Iowa's standards from the dle January very cold.

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Speaker 2: How much the ten day forecast is gonna be accurate,

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Speaker 2: but it's supposed to be like below zero, below zero

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Speaker 2: fahrenheit or below zero uh.

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Speaker 1: And so for everybody out there, big Celsias fans and

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Speaker 1: the Clay and buck off.

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Speaker 2: You know, we have some European listeners. We got some.

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Speaker 1: I'm laughing about it because I just came back from

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Speaker 1: from Australia where everything is in is in Celsia.

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Speaker 2: Your Canadian brothers and sisters use fahrenheit or Celsia. So

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Speaker 2: they are they part of team Fahrenheit. They better be.

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Speaker 2: It's a great question.

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Speaker 1: Is the really funny Nate Bargatsi skit that was on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Night founding how we're gonna use weird lengths compared to

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Speaker 2: or weird memoments compared to everybody else. Yeah, so look,

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Speaker 2: you know that's just some of the mechanics of how

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Speaker 2: this is going to work. I think the GOP version

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Speaker 2: of this tends to be faster and more straightforward than Democrats.

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Speaker 2: But correct me if I'm wrong on that. When anyone

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Speaker 2: out there and uh, look, this isn't gonna be a

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Speaker 2: game changer in and of itself. It would just be

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Speaker 2: like I said, that change in the perception. But I

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Speaker 2: mean Donald, the fact that we have gone from hearing

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Speaker 2: that this is where Ron DeSantis, for example, is going

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Speaker 2: to win, to this is where and I mean from

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Speaker 2: DeSantis you know, people that have endorsed him and DeSantis

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Speaker 2: influencers campaign people, to this is where Ron shows you

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Speaker 2: that he's the strong number two and can close that gap.

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Speaker 2: Means that something very different or something has happened in

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Speaker 2: recent months. Uh, and they're going for a lower the

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Speaker 2: bar has been lowered relative to Trump for other candidates

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Speaker 2: to feel like they got some kind of a victory

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Speaker 2: out of this I don't think right now, let n't

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Speaker 2: know the way that you could say that Ron would

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Speaker 2: win or maybe Nikki. I don't think they Hale is

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Speaker 2: gonna win, but I don't know, would just be the

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Speaker 2: ground game is so strong. Kim Reynolds, the governor of Iowa,

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Speaker 2: came out long ago in favor of Ron De Santis.

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Speaker 2: She's a popular governor in that state. That will probably help.

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Speaker 2: I think endorsements are usually more for reporters to have

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Speaker 2: something to say then for actual moving the needle in

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Speaker 2: a lot of places. But I think you'll see Ron

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Speaker 2: De Santis come in second place, and then there will

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Speaker 2: be a whole discussion about is it a good enough

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Speaker 2: second place that it changes the belief that Trump has

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Speaker 2: already been effectively so far ahead that it can't change.

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Speaker 2: You know that that's it. I don't really see much

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Speaker 2: else of a discussion. I don't think the Veke lasts

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Speaker 2: very long before he decides that he's going to endorse Trump.

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Speaker 2: I think he's gotten more than what anybody could have

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Speaker 2: imagined out of this, you know situation. You see that

699
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Speaker 2: mediaite was reporting I don't know, I don't know. They

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Speaker 2: were probably barring someone else's reporting that Viveke was planning

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Speaker 2: to do a podcast with a daily with a Daily Wire,

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Speaker 2: and then that didn't happen, and then all of a

703
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Speaker 2: sudden it was just I'm gonna run for president. So

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Speaker 2: he's done remarkably well. He's done really well.

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Speaker 1: And to your point, I think it being sub zero

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Speaker 1: and the fact that you're gonna have to commit a

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Speaker 1: decent amount of time means that really what you're testing

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Speaker 1: in Iowa is the strength of your commitment to the

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Speaker 1: candidate that you support, because there's lots of people out

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Speaker 1: there that will give twenty minutes of time to show

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Speaker 1: up to vote in a primary. If you're gonna commit

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Speaker 1: several hours of your time on a cold night a

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Speaker 1: week from today in Iowa where it may well be

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Speaker 1: sub zero, you're gonna get in your car, your truck,

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Speaker 1: your suv, whatever you got. You're gonna make the effort

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Speaker 1: to drive to your caucus site. You're gonna be willing

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Speaker 1: to argue for or against your particular candidate. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: line up in front of everybody. And it's a little

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Speaker 1: bit different.

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 1: I believe in that everybody knows who you're voting for

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Speaker 1: right when you go into a typical voting booth, you

723
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Speaker 1: come out, nobody really knows who you vote for. You

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Speaker 1: get the little eye voted sticker. You can tell people,

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Speaker 1: but people don't know if you're being honest, and so

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Speaker 1: you it's it's not just you standing inside of a

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Speaker 1: voting booth, it's you making it known to your fellow

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Speaker 1: citizens in your community who you've decided to support. I

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Speaker 1: think to your point, they have also simplified the reporting

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Speaker 1: mechanisms because in twenty sixteen, I don't think we found

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Speaker 1: out who won the twenty sixteen caucuses till almost after

732
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Speaker 1: the vote had already happened in New Hampshire. Ted Cruz

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Speaker 1: ended up winning in Iowa, but he didn't get the

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Speaker 1: traditional correct me if I'm wrong. You guys out there

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Speaker 1: in the audience can do this as well. But my

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Speaker 1: recollection of that is that Ted Cruz didn't get the

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Speaker 1: typical election night victory speech because they didn't know. It

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Speaker 1: took him so long to figure out what the actual

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Speaker 1: tallies were, and they now streamlined it because everybody was

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Speaker 1: so frustrated. I think it wasn't only on the Republican side,

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Speaker 1: also the Democrat side. It was just kind of a

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Speaker 1: total cluster, and so I hope that they've got its

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Speaker 1: streamlined to the point where we will know who actually

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Speaker 1: is going to be the victor in Iowa and how

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Speaker 1: much their margin is by the time most of us

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Speaker 1: go to bed on Monday night, a week from today,

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Speaker 1: as we get to see what the actual outcome of

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Speaker 1: the very first votes that are being cast.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so one one, this is what I was I

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Speaker 2: was trying to remember. There is no longer the walking

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Speaker 2: around and forming of candidate preference groups that caucuses. That

752
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Speaker 2: was the way they did it for a long time.

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Speaker 2: I remember that. Yes, Now now they have changed it.

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Speaker 2: Both parties have changed it so that you you know,

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Speaker 2: you you just sort of go in and it's just voting.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's speeches, the stuff we talked about, but

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Speaker 2: you're voting. You're not forming these other candidate preference groups. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they have simplified it to a large extent

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Speaker 1: compared to what happened in the past.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they've changed it for this for this caucuses.

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Speaker 2: That was the switch that I was trying to trying

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Speaker 2: to address. So I don't know how much that's really

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Speaker 2: going to change very much. I think it means it'll

764
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Speaker 2: go a little bit faster, but you know, you got

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Speaker 2: to show up. I think there's no I don't think

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Speaker 2: there's any absentee or mail in anything. I think I

767
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Speaker 2: think you have to be in person. You have to

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Speaker 2: be in person. Yeah, and so this is why, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's it's interesting. Why is Iowa first? It represents less

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Speaker 2: than two percent of the overall delegates, delegates that will

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Speaker 2: be you know, assigned at the end of this whole

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Speaker 2: election process tradition. That's really it. You know, It's like

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Speaker 2: when I when I people ask why are Republicans? Because

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Speaker 2: I hate this? Have you ever talked to you about

775
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Speaker 2: this before? I hate that Republicans are red and Democrats

776
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 2: are blue. We should be blue and they should be

777
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Speaker 2: read because they're communists. This just is what happened because

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Speaker 2: of the way that the you know, CBS, NBC, ABC,

779
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Speaker 2: back in the seventies, they decided to represent the parties

780
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Speaker 2: with these colors. I think initially also one of them

781
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Speaker 2: was even like yellow, so they changed it around a

782
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Speaker 2: little bit. But this this really stuck with blue and red,

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Speaker 2: and it just bothers me because the commune should be read,

784
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Speaker 2: there should be truth in advertising, and instead we're red.

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Speaker 2: It's all meant to confuse. It's like when they call

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Speaker 2: themselves liberals and they're really authoritarians. I get fired off

787
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Speaker 2: about this as well. You should, and we'll play you

788
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Speaker 2: some more cuts. By the way of Joe Biden's going

789
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Speaker 2: to Charleston, to me, this is even more despicable than

790
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Speaker 2: the Valley Forge speech. To combine the two.

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Speaker 1: Just let you know how nasty of a campaign Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden is planning to run. Because you go to a

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Speaker 1: place nine years after a shooting happened there and look,

794
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Speaker 1: I wish there were no mass shootings in America. But

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Speaker 1: the idea that you're trying to sell and will play

796
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Speaker 1: some of this cut from James Clyburn, who is in

797
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Speaker 1: South Carolina, that somehow Trump is responsible for the deaths

798
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Speaker 1: of those individuals at the Black Church in Charleston is

799
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Speaker 1: beyond the pale. And then you combine it with the

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Speaker 1: Valley Forge speech. It's just a particularly nasty way to

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Speaker 1: decide to effectively launch your campaign in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: And I think all of you need to be prepared.

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Speaker 1: This is not going to be some standing on a

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Speaker 1: hill bright version of American life. This is going to

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Speaker 1: be one of the nastiest election campaigns that any of

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Speaker 1: us have ever experienced.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and also to your point about Biden and where

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Speaker 2: he's giving his speech, it ignores the recent polling that

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Speaker 2: shows that young black men are increasing in their support

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Speaker 2: for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as I would argue, that's one reason he's there

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Speaker 1: is because he's going to try to convince black people

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Speaker 1: that if they vote for Trump, they're all going to

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Speaker 1: get murdered because Trump's an awful racist, white supremacist. That's

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Speaker 1: what he's trying to sell with this speech.

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Speaker 2: All right, third hour of Clan Bock. Get's going right now,

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Speaker 2: And we had some breaking news to talk to you

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Speaker 2: about here the last well kind of from yesterday, I suppose,

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Speaker 2: but breaking and that we haven't talked about it here

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Speaker 2: on the show. And that is that Speaker Johnson has

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Speaker 2: gotten a top line spending deal, so there will not

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Speaker 2: be a government shut down. As of last week, there

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Speaker 2: was discussion that on the border issue, which we are

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Speaker 2: about to dive into, there's so much distance between the

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Speaker 2: two sides that perhaps there would be a partial government shutdown.

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Speaker 2: I don't really want to get too deep into the

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Speaker 2: Speaker of the House conversation because I know there are

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Speaker 2: going to be people that feel very invested that Mike

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Speaker 2: Johnson is great, and there's some people maybe that are

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Speaker 2: having second thoughts. I would just point out that we

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Speaker 2: hear on this show told you a lot of the

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Speaker 2: speaker stuff that has gone on in the Republican Party

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Speaker 2: in the last year has been much more about the

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Speaker 2: personalities involved than changes in policy. And that's evidence by

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Speaker 2: the fact that there have been no changes in policy

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Speaker 2: and that the same outcomes happen when we have McCarthy

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Speaker 2: in we had Johnson in. Now maybe that will change,

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Speaker 2: but so far it hasn't changed. So I think that

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Speaker 2: sometimes we get a little caught up in that everyone's like, well,

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Speaker 2: this guy's a rhino and that guy's not. Well, just

867
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 2: wait till that guy becomes leadership in the house, and

868
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 2: maybe people will be feeling all differently. I don't want

869
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: to get into the speaker thing though right now, Clay,

870
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: because I think it's more important to focus on although

871
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 2: maybe we'll come back to it. We'll certainly come back

872
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 2: to it later in the week. I believe the border

873
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 2: crisis as it stands right now, we've got I'm trying.

874
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 2: I'm going from memory. I think Clay, when you were

875
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 2: out they had the numbers, it was basically seven hundred thousand.

876
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 2: In stretching back to September, I think it was seven

877
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: to eight hundred thousand. I mean, you're at a point

878
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: now where there's over ten thousand migrants a day coming

879
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 2: into the US. I agree with people that don't like

880
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: the term migrant, and this has been a very deliberate,

881
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: deliberate decision. We can't say legal alien anymore, we can't

882
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: say a legal immigrant. We weren't going to say undocumented.

883
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: So now they've settled on migrant. The problem is they

884
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: are in a process. They're in a process, and until

885
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 2: that changes, nothing else changes. Here's Nancy Pelosi Clay saying,

886
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 2: the way to solve this is to honor our asylum responsibilities,

887
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 2: to cut one.

888
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 7: So we have to handle this with care. We must

889
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,919
Speaker 7: secure our border, that's for sure, there's no question about that.

890
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 7: But we also must honor our responsibilities in terms of

891
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 7: asylum and the rest, and the President has that in

892
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 7: his proposal. And what they say is, oh, it won't

893
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 7: make a difference. No, it will make a difference. Let's

894
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 7: get the job done, let's do it soon.

895
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: Now she's lying. I mean, it won't make a difference

896
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 2: if you believe that we want to stop people from

897
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 2: illegally coming into the country. This is where it gets

898
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 2: very complicated. Clay people agree. I talk about that CBS

899
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 2: poll the border seventy five percent basically say it's a crisis.

900
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 2: But then we get into who do they blame for

901
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 2: the crisis? What do I think should be done about

902
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: the crisis? Biden's president, so there's some blame for him there.

903
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 2: The fundamental problem here is that what Democrats want to

904
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 2: do is have a more orderly invasion of illegality, whereas

905
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: there at least some Republicans who want the illegals to

906
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 2: stop coming into the country.

907
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and look what they're gonna do. This is my prediction.

908
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: I think they're going to try to muddy the waters

909
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: here because of all the issues that are out there

910
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: right now, Biden is weakest on the border, and even

911
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: traditional Democrat voters and even Democrat supporters of Biden, the

912
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: mayors of New York City, Chicago, I saw with the

913
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: mayor of Denver now has got too many migrants there.

914
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: They just can't handle it.

915
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: And I do think we need to give credit to

916
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: Texas Governor Greg Abbott his decision to begin busting all

917
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: of these illegals to the places where they want to go. Remember,

918
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 1: New York City is a sanctuary city, Washington, d C.

919
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: Sanctuary city, Chicago, Boston, all of these different cities Denver

920
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: that are now being flooded with illegal immigrants. All of

921
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: them supposedly wanted to have open borders and they wanted

922
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: to be places of refuge for all of these people

923
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: illegally coming into the country until suddenly they had to

924
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 1: be responsible for it themselves. And Greg Abbott's game plan here,

925
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: and I think it was brilliant. I think it's been

926
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: brilliantly executed. Is it's easy to pretend there isn't a

927
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: crisis if you aren't on the border yourself. All of

928
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: you listening to us right now in Texas and in Arizona,

929
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: if you're anywhere near the border, you are constantly overrun.

930
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 1: This is a never ending crisis for you. But for

931
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: many parts of the country, you can just pretend this

932
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: isn't happening because it isn't crisis level in your community.

933
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: And what Greg Abbott did was he said, Okay, I'm

934
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: going to give you a small picture of what we

935
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 1: deal with in Texas on a daily basis. Camember Buck,

936
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: this is only a pinprick of the number of people

937
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 1: that are coming illegally, that are being put on buses

938
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: and going to New York City, Chicago, Denver, these other cities,

939
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: and it's breaking their ability in those cities to even

940
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: handle this at all. It's not like a million people

941
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: are getting on these buses. What was the number this year?

942
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: Over three million illegals I think came in in twenty

943
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: twenty three. And all it takes is fifty or sixty

944
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: thousand to break New York City. And this is what

945
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: is going on now. I give credit to Greg Gabbott.

946
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: It is completely altered the dynamics and the discussion surrounding this.

947
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: But what I think they're going to do, and I'm

948
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: curious if you would sign on with this as well.

949
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 2: Is one.

950
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: They're going to say, well, we're making offers and Republicans

951
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: won't actually sign on to the fixes that we want,

952
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: so they're actually to blame, right.

953
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: Blame shifting is going to be number one.

954
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: Number two is and I'm curious whether this is going

955
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: to end up happening. They're going to try to get

956
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: something passed that Joe Biden can sign and say, oh,

957
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 1: I've solved the issue at the border now to try

958
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: to get this blame off of his plate. Those are

959
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: the two things that I think are going to happen.

960
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: Republicans are to blame, which maybe some people will buy into.

961
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 2: I don't think very many, but they'll try it.

962
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: And two, they'll try some bill that doesn't actually address

963
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: this at all. Because remember, they want this, this is

964
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: the this is the issue that they have in general.

965
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: They want open borders effective.

966
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 2: This is why the this is what the language that's

967
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 2: used is so important. When they say secure the border,

968
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: I mean think of America like it's a party and

969
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 2: border patrol is they're the bouncers to the party. And

970
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 2: you know there's fire code that can't let too many

971
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: people in Republicans, or at least the ones who are

972
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 2: serious about this issue. Trump desantists and others as well

973
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: who are running for president. Republicans are saying, hey, there

974
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 2: are too many people inside. People are sneaking in without paying.

975
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: We need to stop this. Democrats are saying, we just

976
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 2: need more bouncers to let more people in who haven't paid.

977
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 2: That's what's going on. So when they say, oh, we

978
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 2: want to send more security to the party, what they

979
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 2: mean is we want to make it easier. They want

980
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 2: to streamline the illegal entries into the country. They want

981
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 2: to make sure that they're able to be sort of

982
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 2: entered into the system. And understand when Nancy Pelosi says,

983
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 2: we have a we have responsibilities in terms of asylum.

984
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 2: Part of that responsibility is if you don't get asylum

985
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 2: under law, you are supposed to be deported. You're supposed

986
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 2: to be sent home to the country. Because asylum is

987
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 2: the same thing as refugee status. It's just asylum as

988
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 2: when you're already in the country. Right, so it used

989
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: to be if you were sailing past New York Harbor

990
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: and you're supposed to go somewhere else. He said, no,

991
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 2: I need asylum you jump off, You're like, I need

992
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: asylum here in America. If you're a refugee, it means

993
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 2: you're applying to do the same kind of process but

994
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 2: from another country. Right. The issue now is you never

995
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: get sent away, So it's just a giant open door

996
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: to come into America and skip the whole immigration line.

997
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 2: I mean, the whole thing is a scam.

998
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: Not only that, your first appearance now in front of

999
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: a judge to consider your asylum claim. I'm sure you

1000
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: saw this, buck. I think I saw this while I

1001
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: was in Australia. Some of these guys are getting after

1002
00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 1: two thousand and thirty appearance notices. Now, think about how

1003
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: wild that is. Seven years of living in the United States.

1004
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: We know you even have to appear before judge. There's

1005
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: no chance that they're not going to say they've been

1006
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 1: in the community for seven years. It's heartless and cruel

1007
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,280
Speaker 1: for us to not let them say.

1008
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 2: So. The whole thing and probably they might have had

1009
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 2: a kid, but we're talking about the whole thing is

1010
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 2: falling apart. But it's not falling apart because oh, we

1011
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 2: don't have laws to address this. It's not falling apart

1012
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 2: because there's some grand bargain that could be struck that

1013
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: would make everything better. It's the refusal of our political elites,

1014
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 2: Democrats across the board, but even some Republicans get in

1015
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 2: on this one too, Even some of the donor class

1016
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 2: Republicans or they're big fans of the cheap labor let's

1017
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 2: be honest, they don't want it to stop fundamentally, and

1018
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 2: everything else that people are hearing this is to your

1019
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: point about how they're going to blame the Republicans. Everything

1020
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 2: else is just a lie. It's just a distraction.

1021
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think you crystallize this early last year,

1022
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: and I've heard other people pick up on it. Democrats

1023
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: are far more concerned about the Ukrainian border than they

1024
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: are the United States border, and that is a really

1025
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: compelling distillation of two distinct issues that it's very hard

1026
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: to argue against.

1027
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 2: I think that cuts through the noise. When you hear Joe.

1028
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: Biden talking about how we need to spend one hundred

1029
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: billion dollars to protect Ukraine's border. How much money This

1030
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: is a good question. How much money do you think

1031
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: it would take to actually shut down our southern border

1032
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: and not allow anybody else in. I feel like one

1033
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: hundred billion dollars probably would do it. Oh a lot

1034
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: of US A lot, yes, but I mean one hundred

1035
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: billion for sure. And if you ask the American public

1036
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: right now, would you rather give one hundred billion to

1037
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: secure the border of Ukraine to the best of their

1038
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: ability or one hundred billion to the United States to

1039
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: secure our southern border. That's a seventy thirty issue. I

1040
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: think in terms of American voters at least maybe seventy

1041
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: five to twenty five, maybe even eighty twenty.

1042
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 2: I think that people are recognizing this scam here. They're

1043
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 2: starting to understand the way that this works and what

1044
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 2: the what the real end state goal from the Democrats is,

1045
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 2: which is the continuation of this And I always want

1046
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 2: to say, I mean, right now, play people across the country.

1047
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 2: I mean, let's just sort of bring this home for

1048
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 2: a second. I mean, all immigration stuff is here at home.

1049
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 2: But for for people listening, they can afford half the

1050
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 2: house they could three years ago. That's just a fact

1051
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 2: by based on mortgage rates. Yes, they're paying more for food,

1052
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 2: gas in logic. I mean, the inflation number CPI is

1053
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 2: a joke. Everybody. We know that, right because CPI measures

1054
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 2: the increase in the cost except for food and energy. Well,

1055
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: for most people, what are the things you know, gasing

1056
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 2: your car and food you know on the dinner table,

1057
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 2: those are the things that you have to deal with

1058
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 2: the most frequently and hurt your budget the most, right

1059
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: because that's money you have to spend. It's not really discretionary.

1060
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 2: So all that's going on, and you got higher and

1061
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 2: higher defaults on car loans, people running up more and

1062
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 2: more credit card debt. They can't afford what they were

1063
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 2: And when I say used to, I'm not talking about oh,

1064
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 2: three years ago. Can't afford what they could three years

1065
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 2: ago in terms of a house to live in. And

1066
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 2: they're going to be eight million illegals in the country

1067
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 2: this year getting free housing, free medical care, free everything

1068
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 2: courtesy of the taxpayer. I mean, if it's not a problem,

1069
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 2: why is New York City screaming about this and saying

1070
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 2: we can't handle this anymore? People are seeing in and

1071
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 2: understanding it in a way that they hadn't before, that

1072
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 2: the lawlessness has costs, economic costs, social costs.

1073
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: It's real to them, and not only that buck as

1074
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: we go to break here think about this, they're also

1075
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: note what New York City and Chicago's of the world

1076
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: are saying they're demanding a federal bailout.

1077
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: They want you and me and every single person.

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Speaker 1: Out there paying taxes to actually pay for their open

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Speaker 2: They want you who lives.

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Speaker 1: Nowhere near New York City or Chicago to bear the

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Speaker 2: And they'll push for amnesty as soon as they have

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Speaker 2: a Democrat safely ensconced in for Biden Harris News, I

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Speaker 2: And for those who are going to say, oh, but

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