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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: That's right. It's a Buck and Fits takeover of the

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Speaker 2: Jason smithship with Mike Carmen hanging out with you on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio all night long. We have show controversy.

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Speaker 2: If you listen to this show every single Saturday, you know,

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Speaker 2: Buck and I are slightly different people, but we've been

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Speaker 2: friends for a long time. Despite our friendship and our

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Speaker 2: just ability to always be ourselves, I'm a little I'm

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Speaker 2: a little dumbfounded by what's happening right now. Bo producer Stort. Now,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna need your opinion on this because let's peak

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Speaker 2: behind the curtain. Currently, Buck Rising is sitting in Nashville, Tennessee,

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Speaker 2: a city I lived in for over twenty years. But

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Speaker 2: I am sitting in Connecticut, where I've lived for the

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Speaker 2: majority of almost whatever seven eight years. Right, So we're

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Speaker 2: in different cities. So when we do radio, and this

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Speaker 2: is no big thing. Everybody's used to this now most

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Speaker 2: people aren't in the same city ever since COVID, that's

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Speaker 2: become the norm. So in order for us to be

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Speaker 2: able to communicate well while we do the show, we

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Speaker 2: always FaceTime. So we're on a FaceTime on a laptop

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Speaker 2: while we're on air. So Buck leaves during the last

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Speaker 2: commercial break to feed his cats. That's right, his cats,

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Speaker 2: which is already in and of itself a thing.

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Speaker 1: I got one here, Leo.

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Speaker 2: I mean, okay, now he's lifting his cats up that

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Speaker 2: it's fine, but sits back down to get involved in

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Speaker 2: the second hour of the show, not only with a

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Speaker 2: cat in hand, and not only wearing hipster sunglasses, but

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Speaker 2: now he is added the hipster sunglasses.

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Speaker 3: They're blue light glasses. I almost said a bad word

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Speaker 3: at you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well I deserved it. But he has sat down, Bo.

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Speaker 2: This is where I need your expertise on this, because

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Speaker 2: I don't know. He has sat down in what looks

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Speaker 2: like a very fuzzy bathrobe with a crest on it

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Speaker 2: of some sort. Is it your initials on the crest?

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Speaker 1: Buck? Like?

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Speaker 2: What do we okay, we're wearing a customized bathrobe while

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Speaker 2: we're on radio?

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Speaker 1: Is this? Bo? Is this norm? Like?

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Speaker 2: Do your other hosts show up for hour number two

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Speaker 2: in a bathrobe? Like there Will Ferrell and Wedding Craft.

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Speaker 4: I mean, what do you think me, Alex and Steve

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Speaker 4: de Seger are wearing right now?

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Speaker 1: Man? Yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right. You thought they

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Speaker 1: were against me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're the last people in the building here. There's

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Speaker 4: there's no rules right now.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny because I actually unlike unlike Buck Rising,

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Speaker 2: who has flat out refused Buck Rising, Indiana grad refusing

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Speaker 2: to go to the Rose Bowl because he just doesn't

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Speaker 2: feel like it. And when was pointed out that the

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports studios are in l A, I will I

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Speaker 2: will remind everybody, like I've been out in l A

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Speaker 2: doing Yahoo shows before, and I have I have made sure,

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Speaker 2: even if it was two in the morning, I have

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Speaker 2: made sure to come in and hang out in studio

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Speaker 2: with with the show staff. I think it's important, Like

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Speaker 2: everybody gets a chance to Barros.

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Speaker 3: Nobody wants to see you like that, get out of here.

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Speaker 3: Yea there in the morning and bothering people. When we

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Speaker 3: were doing the Fellows, I was in there two in

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Speaker 3: the more.

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Speaker 2: Right, nobody's wearing bathrooms bo I mean I'm not. I'm

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Speaker 2: just saying I didn't see it. Like it's got a

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Speaker 2: who even owns a bathroom?

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Speaker 3: It's with on it, my initials all right, want you

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Speaker 3: just sit down and take a lesson for a couple

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Speaker 3: of minutes, okay, cause I'm gonna tell you how I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna do radio if you and I are gonna do

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Speaker 3: radio in any former fashion for the foreseeable future, after

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Speaker 3: the hours of nine pm Central time. Okay, I'm in

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Speaker 3: my home at nine pm or I guess ten pm

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Speaker 3: Central time as it is right now ten oh four.

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Speaker 3: If you're hanging out with us across the country on

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. If I'm in my home past ten pm,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have my bathrobe on.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Now I'm not just wearing a bathrobe.

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Speaker 3: I've got I've got my pajamas on under my bathrobe

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Speaker 3: at this point in time.

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Speaker 1: And yes, I'm wearing blue.

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Speaker 3: Light glasses because I want to go to bed after

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Speaker 3: this at a reasonable hour. And if I sit there

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Speaker 3: just melt my brain for four hours, this isn't gonna

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Speaker 3: be good for anybody involved. So if I would like

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Speaker 3: to be refreshed, and I would like to be comfortable

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Speaker 3: because I'm gonna wear my bathrobe. But it's not It's

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Speaker 3: not a custom monogram bathrobe. It is a bathrobe with

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Speaker 3: a monogram on it from the Congress Hall Hotel in

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Speaker 3: New Jersey, where I was so impressed with the bathrobes

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Speaker 3: bought one. Okay, that's all you need to know, Jason Fitzen.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do radio my bathroobe, no matter what I am.

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Speaker 2: I am doing radio right now with some weird combination

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Speaker 2: of the dude from Big Lebowski and Will Ferrell from

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Speaker 2: Wedding Crashers. And I don't know how to feel about

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Speaker 2: any of this bo Have you ever gone into it?

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Speaker 2: Have you ever gone to a hotel and actually bought

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Speaker 2: the bathrobe? Like I mean, I'm so flumoxed by this.

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Speaker 2: Like I look at general rule. I stayed in a

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Speaker 2: lot of hotels, never touched bathrooms, like you go one

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Speaker 2: I know several guys that toured with that were just

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Speaker 2: I'm not touching anything. I don't have to touch bo

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Speaker 2: are you a gift store bathroom? Hotel guy?

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Speaker 4: Last hotel I stayed at was at Disneyland, so they

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Speaker 4: got enough of my money, so I can cannot say

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Speaker 4: that I would have bought a bathroom or whatever. Do

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Speaker 2: I mean, but that's it, man. I bet you the

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Speaker 2: Disney ones are nice. Though those are probably plushed, they

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Speaker 3: Am I gonna sound ignorant if because I've never I

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Speaker 3: mean I've never as an adult been to Disney World

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Speaker 3: like I've been as somebody has taken me as a

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Speaker 3: paying for that. Is Disney expensive?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god?

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Speaker 4: Yes, incredibly can It's incredibly so. The only the only

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Speaker 4: never go. But it's even at this point if you

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Speaker 2: So one of the perks when I worked at ESPN,

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Speaker 2: they're an ABC Disney company, so you get free park

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Speaker 2: like it is its own.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Just you know, just I would tell you avoid it,

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Speaker 3: Like my nightmare. I mean, I wouldn't go. I don't

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Speaker 3: I'm sure people do that, and I don't want to

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Speaker 3: disparage them. If that's what you're doing, what you want

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Speaker 3: to do with your favor, with your free time, that's

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Speaker 3: that's fine by me. But I just I can't think

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Speaker 2: I have a lot of friends that are adults that

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Speaker 2: like to go to that like to go to Epcot

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Speaker 2: when you're boogie enough that you sit around and do

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Speaker 2: radio in a comfy robe though. I don't think you.

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Speaker 1: Get my crown. I'll go get my crown too. We

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Speaker 3: I'll do the whole thing, all right, I don't this

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Speaker 2: Look, do you really want to you really want to

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Speaker 2: try and convince America that you don't usually do things

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Speaker 2: like you're on camera for hours to day. Is that

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Speaker 2: put on a crown. I did this, but bo I

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Speaker 2: did this to the entire show. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: I did this. I did this. We there.

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Speaker 3: Certainly there's some terrible radio because you're just describing something

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if it makes you feel any better,

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Speaker 4: this is really the same exact thing that would be

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Speaker 2: So now the joke's on on Buck though, because I

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Speaker 2: literally just took a picture of him laughing and I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to post it on social media in a

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Speaker 2: Not that he'll ever care. See, that's the thing. This

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Speaker 2: is more content for him. We love, this is this

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Speaker 2: is what?

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Speaker 1: Who are we supposed to talk about it here?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I was so I was so dumbfounded

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Speaker 2: when you sat down on what looks like a very fuzzy,

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Speaker 2: fuzzy comfy robe and like, I just I'm a redneck.

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Speaker 2: They gotten, Uh, we should talk about something related to sports.

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, probably I was going to talk

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Speaker 2: about the meltdown of the Steelers. Do you want to

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Speaker 2: talk about the meltdown and the Steelers?

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Speaker 5: That?

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Speaker 2: Look, I will say over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Because one of the weirdest anomalies. And I believe this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And the AFC North is pathetic and the AFC

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Speaker 1: Listen, I don't think they're pathetic. Do you just see

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Speaker 3: Like, I'm not putting anything that can do that, not

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Speaker 2: Look if the Ravens had been that week in and

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Speaker 2: of the loser of the Steelers versus the Ravens matchup,

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Speaker 1: To get over by the way the games lost. Thing

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Speaker 3: What was that Saturday when we were on the air

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much. Yes, they have lost the

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Speaker 2: You can wake up one day and have Bill Callahan

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Speaker 1: But that's not the.

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Speaker 3: Way that I want their organ That's not the way

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Speaker 1: That guy's got to go. He's lost the threat.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't know how to coach anymore, he doesn't know

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Speaker 3: It's nonsense. Mike Tomlin has held so much, so many

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Speaker 3: And right now he's doing it with a forty two

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Speaker 3: year old quarterback that has some level of limitations, and

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Speaker 3: he's doing it without his star receiver. And yeah, they

441
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Speaker 3: slipped up against the Pittsburgh or excuse me, against the

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Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns over the weekend, and now the division is

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Speaker 3: up for grabs at the end. But this is the

444
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Speaker 3: way that the AFC North always feels, whether they're good

445
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Speaker 3: and they're the best division in football, or whether they're

446
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Speaker 3: one of the worst, as they are this year. Firing

447
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Speaker 3: or getting anywhere close to the idea of firing Mike

448
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Speaker 3: Tomlin and John Harball would be some of the most

449
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Speaker 3: short sighted nonsense you'd ever seen an NFL organization consider,

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Speaker 3: And I don't even think it's a thought for them.

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Speaker 2: And I think so much of the Steelers. Look, I

452
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Speaker 2: guess just comes down to quarterbacks, right, because there's this

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Speaker 2: spot for me where look Roethlisberger about out in January

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty two. Okay, so if you look at

455
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Speaker 2: January twenty twenty two is when Roethlisberger retired according to AI,

456
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Speaker 2: so we're talking about after the twenty one season. I

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Speaker 2: just looked it back up. So if you look at

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, that year the Steelers drafted Kenny Pickett, right,

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Speaker 2: he was the first quarterback selected that year. There wasn't

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Speaker 2: a quarterback worth a damn that year. So the following year,

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Speaker 2: there wasn't a quarterback that was going to be available

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Speaker 2: to them anyway. There wasn't a quarterback that they were

463
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Speaker 2: anywhere in range of drafting. In twenty twenty four, there

464
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Speaker 2: wasn't a quarterback that was going to be available to

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Speaker 2: them at all in range of drafting. And frankly, as

466
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Speaker 2: has been well covered, Caleb, Jayden, Drake, the three Stars

467
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Speaker 2: in that there was nothing anybody could do to move

468
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Speaker 2: up to those top three. They were going to be there.

469
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Speaker 2: So really weirdly, this entire Pittsburgh Steelers conversation of underperforming

470
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Speaker 2: comes down to the quarterback. For me, they don't have

471
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Speaker 2: a permanent answer at the quarterbacks position. So this all

472
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Speaker 2: comes down to Jackson Dart. And I mean that because

473
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Speaker 2: Jackson Dart is the only quarterback that has been available

474
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Speaker 2: for the Pittsburgh Steelers to draft over the course of

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Speaker 2: the last three years that they passed on that may

476
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Speaker 2: look like he's okay. So I guess if you're a

477
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Speaker 2: Steelers fan and you look at it and say, well,

478
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Speaker 2: Jackson Dart, Tyler Shuck last year were available, they should

479
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Speaker 2: have drafted one of those guys, all right, does that

480
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Speaker 2: change the fortunes of the entire organization? Like, because what

481
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Speaker 2: I hear guys on first Take tell me all the

482
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Speaker 2: time is to get you know, Tomlin needs go get

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Speaker 2: a quarterback, Go get a quarterback. Well, how instead of

484
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Speaker 2: telling me go get a quarterback, tell me specifically what

485
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Speaker 2: quarterback was available to them that they missed on or

486
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Speaker 2: what quarterback was traded for that they could have traded

487
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Speaker 2: equal equity for. Like we sit here with this straw

488
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Speaker 2: man argument about quarterbacks without acknowledging that it's not like

489
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Speaker 2: a quarterback is just there to be selected all the time.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you know what organization does that for all the

491
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Speaker 1: good it's done him?

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Speaker 3: Think about this, FITZI, And I'll give you one guess,

493
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Speaker 3: because I don't want to spend too much time spinner

494
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Speaker 3: of wheels here, and I know we have a sports

495
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Speaker 3: update to get to, But think about the one organization

496
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Speaker 3: that just goes and gets a quarterback. It seems, almost

497
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Speaker 3: on an annual basis to try and duct tape their

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Speaker 3: way through an NFL regular season.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you a hint, and it's an AFC team.

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Speaker 2: The Colts.

501
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Speaker 3: It's the Colts for all the good the Colts have

502
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Speaker 3: done with Matt Ryan and Nick Falls and listen COVID

503
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Speaker 3: Philip Rivers and even this Philip Rivers at forty four

504
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 3: years old, like, you could do a lot worse. I

505
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Speaker 3: get what you're saying, But Anthony Richards and Daniel Jones,

506
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Speaker 3: I mean, the list goes on and on and on

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Speaker 3: and on. Chris Ballard has one playoff win as the

508
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Speaker 3: general manager of the Indianapolis Colts, and I think nine

509
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Speaker 3: seasons that he's been there. Going and getting a quarterback

510
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Speaker 3: just for the sake of going and getting a quarterback

511
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Speaker 3: is not a solution. It's not a plan, it's not

512
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Speaker 3: a strategy, it's not go indicative of long term success.

513
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Speaker 3: What Mike Tomlin brings is an adult in the room

514
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Speaker 3: stability that allows you to navigate so many different complicated

515
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Speaker 3: situations while still being highly competitive. Even if you're not

516
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Speaker 3: winning the championship year in and year out. At least

517
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Speaker 3: he's giving you an opportunity to be in the dance.

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Speaker 3: I just I get why Steelers fans won't accept it

519
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Speaker 3: as an argument. I like that Steelers fans won't accept

520
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Speaker 3: it as an argument because I like a fan base

521
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Speaker 3: with high standard, But it is. At the end of

522
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Speaker 3: the day, you have to be realistic about everything else

523
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Speaker 3: that's out there, and it's not nearly as good.

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Speaker 2: What if the Steelers have the coaching equivalent of Roethlisberger

525
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Speaker 2: and they're about to get hit by it. I'll explain

526
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Speaker 2: what I mean, but first Steve Desager has to give

527
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Speaker 2: us the update. What's going on the scoreboard right now?

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Speaker 7: Steve, it's including the Alamo Bowl going on and USC

529
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Speaker 7: starts the fourth quarter with the lead against TCU twenty

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Speaker 7: one fourteen. Illinois edge Tennessee thirty to twenty eight on

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Speaker 7: a short field goal final play to win the Music

532
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Speaker 7: City Bowl. Today in Shreveport, Louisiana, Tech took the Independence

533
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Speaker 7: Bowl over Coastal Carolina twenty three to fourteen. Plenty more

534
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Speaker 7: games tomorrow and Miami will play number two Ohio State

535
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Speaker 7: on New Year's Eve at the Cotton Bowl quarterfinal. Texas

536
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Speaker 7: Tech quarterback Baron Morton has practiced fully this month. He's

537
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Speaker 7: out of a walking boot. He'd injured his leg two

538
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Speaker 7: and a half months ago. Texas Tech faces Oregon in

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Speaker 7: the Orange Bowl quarterfinal on New Year's Day. Alabama sophomore

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Speaker 7: wide receiver Ryan Williams does plan to return to the

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Speaker 7: team next season. He turns nineteen in February. Northwestern's new

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Speaker 7: offensive coordinator is Chip Kelly, and the new defensive coordinator

543
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Speaker 7: at Boston College is Ted Rufe. The Dallas Cowboys cut

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Speaker 7: veteran defensive back Trayvon Diggs. He's battled knee injuries the

545
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Speaker 7: past two years. Patriots wide receiver Stefan Diggs faces a

546
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Speaker 7: felony strangulation charge after an incident earlier this month. He's

547
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Speaker 7: also charged with misdemeanor assault. The Steelers are optimistic the

548
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Speaker 7: pass rusher TJ. Watt can play in Sunday Nights Finale.

549
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Speaker 7: Pittsburgh tight end Darnell Washington had surgery on his broken arm.

550
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Speaker 7: Tampa Bay quarterback Baker Mayfield was limited at practice shoulder

551
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Speaker 7: and knee injuries. The problem missing forty nine Ers practice today,

552
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Speaker 7: where Christian McCay, Affrey, Kyle Uschek, and Trent Williams each

553
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Speaker 7: due to injuries. Drew Brees and Eli Manning are among

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Speaker 7: the fifteen Hall of Fame finalists. Also on the list

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Speaker 7: Frank Gore, Larry Fitzgerald, Adam Vinatieri, also Jason Witton, Reggie,

556
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Speaker 7: Wayne Luke, Keikley and others are finalists in the NBA

557
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Speaker 7: just four games. Tonight, Philadelphia in overtime one at Memphis

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Speaker 7: one thirty nine, one thirty six despite forty points from

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Speaker 7: John Morant thirty point thirty four points each and victory

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Speaker 7: for Joel Embiid and Tyrese Maxiwalls, who had twelve assists

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Speaker 7: no turnovers. Boston is now twenty and twelve after a

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Speaker 7: victory at you to one twenty nine, one to nineteen

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Speaker 7: Keyante George of the Jazz thirty seven points. Currently two

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Speaker 7: games going on in LA. Pistons lead the Lakers mid

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Speaker 7: second quarter fifty one forty two. Detroit still shooting sixty

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Speaker 7: eight percent from the floor late first quarter at the

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Speaker 7: Clippers Arena clips twenty eight eighteen over a Sacramento team.

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Speaker 7: It is eight and twenty four this year. Denver Nuggets

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Speaker 7: starred Nicola Jokic will miss at least a month with

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Speaker 7: a hyper extended knee, and men's basketball number twelve. North

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Speaker 7: Carolina won its conference opener against Florida State seventy nine

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Speaker 7: to sixty six final second seventh rank. Gonzaga holding on

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Speaker 7: at San Diego ninety eight to ninety three, thirteenth rank

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Speaker 7: Nebraska was only up three at the half, but then

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Speaker 7: put away New Hampshire eighty six fifty five sixteenth raight

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Speaker 7: Louisville when it's acc opener at Cal ninety to seventy.

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Speaker 7: In the NHL, Montreal at overtime winner at Florida three two.

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Speaker 2: Hear me out. I think a lot of fans look

589
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Speaker 2: at organizations like the Packers that just find a quarterback

590
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Speaker 2: every single time, and everything is always coming up roses

591
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 2: and it's going to be great, right, And that's just

592
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Speaker 2: what you presume is going to happen. You're just going

593
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Speaker 2: to find another quarterback, and that's the way the Steelers

594
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: have been with the head coach for a long time

595
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Speaker 2: because they've replaced a Hall of Famer with the Hall

596
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 2: of Famer with the Hall of Famer. So the concept

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00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 2: is we're always just going to be able to find

598
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: another coach. But I mean, we got to go back.

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Speaker 2: And this is where Steelers fans talk about the fact

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Speaker 2: that they only won one super Bowl with Big Ben

601
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Speaker 2: and how is it possible that with those stars they

602
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: only won one super Bowl without acknowledging that, Like you

603
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 2: were up against Brady and Belichick, Like, you know, your

604
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Speaker 2: your moment was just a little overshadowed by a moment

605
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: that was just better. Sometimes there's a better dynastic team

606
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: out there, even.

607
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Speaker 1: If you were raining sprinkled in between.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. So like, you know, Big Ben went

609
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Speaker 2: out and had this amazing career. At the same time,

610
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Speaker 2: it's like we're going to always have to couch the

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Speaker 2: conversation of greatness with Lamar and Josh Allen and Joe

612
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Speaker 2: Burrow and all those guys and what they do against

613
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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, Like sometimes it's just different. So my concern

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Speaker 2: that I don't think Steelers fans are acknowledging is that

615
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Speaker 2: just like they found out, it's almost impossible in the

616
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Speaker 2: modern NFL to just find another quarterback. I mean, think

617
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: about it. The Steelers. The Steelers fan base was certain

618
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Speaker 2: when Kenny Pickett was drafted Pittsburgh kid, same thing, It's

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Speaker 2: all gonna be fine. Look at this, we found our guy.

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Speaker 2: This is what every fanbase does. And what if they

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Speaker 2: get Rothlessburger at the head coach position, like you get

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Speaker 2: rid of Tomlin and you suddenly find out, Wow, it's

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Speaker 2: not that easy to replace a Tomlin. And this is

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Speaker 2: where everybody will say, well, we just need to suck

625
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Speaker 2: for a minute, and if we suck, then we'll get

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Speaker 2: a quarterback and everything will be okay. And I keep

627
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Speaker 2: screaming at the top of my lungs, like history doesn't

628
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Speaker 2: show that anything helps you rebound quickly when you are

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Speaker 2: that bad. So I think everyone's sort of lost perspective

630
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Speaker 2: on what happens if you don't have that next coach

631
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Speaker 2: in waiting to come and is a Mike Tomlin. And

632
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Speaker 2: in the modern NFL, man more new hires are wrong

633
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: than right. It's you. You just covered Brian Callahan, who

634
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Speaker 2: lasted a year with the Titans, a year with the Titans,

635
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Speaker 2: and you got it. In that situation, you had a

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Speaker 2: coach that people seem to like the hire of with

637
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Speaker 2: the first pick overall in the draft, and what did

638
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Speaker 2: the Titans have to show for it? Nothing? Nothing. And

639
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Speaker 2: so like I think Steelers fans don't realize that, just

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Speaker 2: like Roethlisberger was impossible to replace, maybe Tomlin is too.

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Speaker 1: Oh. It's one of those things where.

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Speaker 3: I think that there is just such a lot of

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Speaker 3: bad coaching relative to the guys who are actually capable

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Speaker 3: of doing the job. So let's just say, let's take

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Speaker 3: this year's cycle, for example, and we don't know where

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm assuming.

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Speaker 1: That the Raiders are going to be a job that's

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Speaker 1: open fitsy.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, I think, I think. I think

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Speaker 2: Pete Carroll's gone. Everything I've heard from people in the no,

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Speaker 2: Pee Carroll's gone.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see what ends up happening in Vegas. But

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Speaker 3: right now, let's just assume that there's three jobs that

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Speaker 3: are available to be had if everybody else decides. Now,

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Speaker 3: Zach Taylor, you can stay, and Mike McDaniel you can stay.

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Speaker 3: And no, I don't know, Jonathan Gannon, maybe you go,

657
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Speaker 3: Maybe you stay. Whatever Arizona. Maybe if the Steelers decide, okay,

658
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Speaker 3: let's move.

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Speaker 1: On from Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 3: Are Steelers fans going to be so much more excited

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Speaker 3: about the idea of hiring I don't know who's the

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Speaker 3: best candidate to be hired right now? Is it Matt Naggy,

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs offensive coordinator who doesn't call plays? Is it

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Speaker 3: Robert Salah, the failed coach of the New York Jets,

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Speaker 3: who's yeah? I mean maybe you say, well, you had

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Speaker 3: Zach Wilson and Petulan Aaron Rodgers. Okay, what's he going

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Speaker 3: to do in Pittsburgh without a corner pack?

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Speaker 1: And in a.

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Speaker 3: Similar situation, is it Clint Kobiak, who as a Seahawks

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Speaker 3: offensive coordinator may end up being you know what, like

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Speaker 3: that's just Brian had two point zero to me in

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Speaker 3: the sense of not that he'd be a flame out

673
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Speaker 3: as a as an NFL head coach. I have no idea,

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Speaker 3: But it's an offensive minded guy whose family has been

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Speaker 3: in football their entire existence, who he himself is a

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Speaker 3: football lifer.

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Speaker 1: And yes, maybe he.

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Speaker 3: Is going to be good at doing the kind of

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Speaker 3: things that his dad did, for example, right because Gary

680
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Speaker 3: Kubiak was a good NFL head coach for a period

681
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Speaker 3: of time in multiple different places, but it doesn't guarantee

682
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Speaker 3: that Clint will be able to handle all the different

683
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Speaker 3: ins and outs of what that job is, especially if

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Speaker 3: he wants to call plays on top of it. In

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Speaker 3: year one, if the Steelers fire Mike Tomlin, who the

686
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Speaker 3: hell are you going to hire? And not even just generally,

687
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Speaker 3: but this year specifically, how much better can you really do?

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Speaker 2: There is also this element of how desira I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: Steelers fans, I'm not picking on you, it sounds like

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Speaker 2: I am if you are one of those jobs that

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Speaker 2: you just mentioned, how desirable is the job knowing that

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Speaker 2: you have no clear path to a quarterback? I just

693
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: we come back to the oversimplification last year that Ben

694
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Speaker 2: Johnson looked around the entire landscape of the NFL and

695
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Speaker 2: everybody wanted to talk to Ben Johnson. And what did

696
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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson do? He picked a job with a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Glory be to God that suddenly worked out. Mike Vrabel

698
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Speaker 2: is getting all sorts of love from being Coach of

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Speaker 2: the Year, but look, I mean, at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, he also took a job that had a

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Speaker 2: quarterback that was easy to believe in, that was young,

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Speaker 2: that was there. Liam Cohen is doing a really good

703
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Speaker 2: job in Jacksonville. And I don't know that Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 2: is truly elite, but I do know that there are

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Speaker 2: a lot of people around the league that love him,

706
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Speaker 2: think he's a very good quarterback. Harbaugh has had success

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Speaker 2: with the Chargers. What do you know had a quarterback?

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Speaker 2: If you are Robert Salah, if you are Clint Koobiak,

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Speaker 2: if you are anybody that's had a job before. By

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Speaker 2: the way, like we'll go with the solas of this,

711
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: the second time head coaches, you rarely get a third shot.

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Speaker 2: Why the hell would you take a job that has

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Speaker 2: a forty two year old quarterback that you have no

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Speaker 2: idea what the future path is to getting that position handled.

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Speaker 2: I don't care about the legacy and the brand of

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Speaker 2: the Steelers. I don't care about the stability of the organization.

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Speaker 2: If I'm a coach and I can pick all of

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Speaker 2: my jobs, why am I picking the one that doesn't

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Speaker 2: have a quarterback. I just I don't think that people

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Speaker 2: put enough weight into what that means for people that

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Speaker 2: are looking at the job.

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Speaker 3: It's almost a crazy thing to say, but I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's not true. Would the Steelers

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Speaker 3: be the worst spot for a coach if it was

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Speaker 3: to come up, I mean no, it would be the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: The Raiders are with all due respect to your beloved

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Speaker 3: Las Vegas Raiders, FITZI, I mean, I don't even know

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Speaker 3: where to start there, other than pray to God that

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Speaker 3: you don't play yourself out of the number one overall

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Speaker 3: draft pick, and Fernando Mendoza, here we go.

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Speaker 2: I hear you, and you are right that the Raiders

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Speaker 2: are not particularly desirable for a lot of reasons. They

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Speaker 2: do have the second most cap space at one hundred

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Speaker 2: and ten million dollars, will have the first pick in

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Speaker 2: the draft. So if you love it, like, if the

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Speaker 2: Raiders don't get the first pick in the draft, they

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Speaker 2: are the least desirable job. If they get the first

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Speaker 2: pick in the draft and somebody loves one of these quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: then suddenly it looks much different. I want to keep

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Speaker 2: going here because I think your point about who's available

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Speaker 2: is important. Because also history shows you that the hiring

742
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Speaker 2: cycles are mostly bad. I'll tell you why when we

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Speaker 2: come back, Buck Rising, Jason Fitz Buckingfits hanging out with

744
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 2: you on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 6: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

747
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Speaker 6: pm Pacific.

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Speaker 2: So Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: So bucking Fits takeover. Though he's Buck Rising, I'm Jason Fitz.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Everybody wants their coach fired. And I

751
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 2: do mean everybody, Like I know Bills fans that want

752
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 2: their coaches fired. I know Colts fans that want Shane

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Speaker 2: Steike and fired. I know Steelers fans and we've been

754
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: talking about Ravens fans want their coach fired. Like you

755
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: just go up and down the list. Everybody that's not

756
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 2: winning the Super Bowl is at some level it feels

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00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 2: like convinced that their coach needs to go. And that's

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00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: the problem. So I did this little exercise, buck all right.

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Speaker 2: I took a look at some of the rankings because

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Speaker 2: I love it when we rank, and we're gonna do

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Speaker 2: this this year. It's the most asinine thing that we do.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, draft grades might be the most ASONI

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Speaker 2: because who knows, but ranking the head coaching hires in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two just a few short years ago.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: If you look at the ranking of the coaching hires,

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Speaker 2: Number one was Mike McDaniel, who, by the way, hasn't

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Speaker 2: won anything at a level that would prevent him from

769
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Speaker 2: being fired if the line in the sand for the

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Speaker 2: Steelers remains where it is and is on the hot seat.

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Speaker 2: Number two Kevin O'Connell. I think we can agree he's

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Speaker 2: done a good job. Number three was Brian Dable, already fired,

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Speaker 2: then Doug Peterson already fired, Todd Bowles hot seat, Josh

774
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Speaker 2: McDaniel's already fired, Matt Eberflus already fired, Dennis Allen already fired,

775
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Speaker 2: Lovey Smith already fired, and Nathaniel Hackett already fired. Maybe

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Speaker 2: you're saying twenty two was just a weird year. Well,

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Speaker 2: how about the rankings of the twenty three head coaching hires,

778
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Speaker 2: where I tell you Shane Steichen was number one. He's

779
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 2: done a pretty good job considering theation. Tamiko Ryan's number two,

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Speaker 2: He's done a very good job. Frank Reich already fired,

781
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Speaker 2: Jonathan Gannon likely to be fired after that.

782
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Speaker 1: He didn't even make it through his first season there.

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Speaker 2: One hundred Sean Payton also done a very good job,

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Speaker 2: So that's not bad.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's let's just get.

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Speaker 2: One morning here here, tie breaking year every head coach

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Speaker 2: hired in twenty twenty four, Dan Quinn. Let's see how

788
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: that goes. You could argue, hot seat, Brian Callahan already fired,

789
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Speaker 2: Jrod Mayo, already fired, Raheem Morris, hot seat, Antonio Pierce

790
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: already fired. Harbaugh done a very good job with the Chargers,

791
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: of course, Mike McDonald's done a good job with the Seahawks,

792
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: and Dave Canal is doing a good job with the Panthers.

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Speaker 2: You look across the board, most of these guys get

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Speaker 2: canned within like two years. They get canned. It's wild, like,

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Speaker 2: That's why to me, when you look at coaches that

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00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 2: have been there for six years, eight years, ten years,

797
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 2: eighteen years, that means something to me because once you

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Speaker 2: start the revolving door, you never know where it ends.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I mean, I'm witnessing it in real time.

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Speaker 3: With Tennessee, this is this may be the most important

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Speaker 3: decision that they make since the Titans moved from Houston

802
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: and became the Titans formerly the Houston Oilers. This head

803
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,959
Speaker 3: coaching higher because of all the implications around it, because

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00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: of cam Ward's future, because of the direction that the

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00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 3: franchises has taken from perpetual I mean there are perpetual

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00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 3: playoff contenders. Certainly, they were the best. They were one

807
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Speaker 3: of the best four AFC teams for a period of

808
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Speaker 3: time under Mike Vrabel and John Robinson and Ryan Tanneill

809
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Speaker 3: and Dereck Henry, like all these different things. And then

810
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Speaker 3: their owner makes a bunch of bad decisions and craters

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Speaker 3: them in a way that they just simply can't get

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Speaker 3: out from under. And the only I mean one of

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Speaker 3: the more egregious things, FITZI that I have seen of

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Speaker 3: late is this idea. And we may have talked about

815
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 3: this before on the National Show. I can't remember, but

816
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 3: it's it's worth bringing back here now the idea that

817
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 3: and I'll just take it to the to the team

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Speaker 3: that I cover here in Nashville, the Titans. They screwed

819
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 3: this thing up royally from the jump in twenty twenty

820
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Speaker 3: five when they fired Ran karth On the general manager

821
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Speaker 3: and brought back Brian Callahan as the head coach and

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Speaker 3: then brought in Mike Borganzi as a general manager to

823
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Speaker 3: kind of go through this wait and see type of

824
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Speaker 3: process with Brian Callahan, despite having the number one overall

825
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Speaker 3: pike at quarterback, which is the reason that you got

826
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Speaker 3: Mike Morganzi to take the job in the first place.

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Speaker 3: You just set cam Ward back because all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: through six games, you're like this, this Callahan guy, Man,

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's getting the job done.

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Speaker 1: He just lost to the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: Nobody loses to the Raiders, but the Tennessee Titans lost

832
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Speaker 3: head to head in Las Vegas to the Raiders after

833
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 3: getting their only win of the season to that point

834
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 3: a fluke in Arizona. They set cam Ward back by

835
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Speaker 3: keeping that coach and then not really being in on

836
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 3: that coach so much so that they were comfortable firing

837
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Speaker 3: him six games into the season.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, they were right.

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Speaker 3: Mike McCoy is a better head coach than Brian Callahan is,

840
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Speaker 3: which is crazy. They have the ability to creator these

841
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Speaker 3: things so quickly with some of these decisions, and I

842
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Speaker 3: just don't know how they can't see that well.

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Speaker 2: And that's I mean, the Bears were on the verge

844
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 2: of trying to creator Caleb. It wasn't that long ago

845
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 2: that nobody was really sure if Caleb Williams was going

846
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Speaker 2: to live up to the hype of Caleb Williams. And

847
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Speaker 2: then what do you know, You get Ben Johnson. The

848
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Speaker 2: problem is, in this hiring cycle, there isn't somebody as

849
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Speaker 2: sure as Ben Johnson, so suddenly all of this looks chaotic.

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Speaker 2: We'll keep breaking this down, plus what to expect from

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Speaker 2: a week full of college football coming next on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio.