Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wok F Daily with
Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Home Bunker. Folks,
Speaker 1: this week as we close out for the holiday, provided
Speaker 1: us with a preview of twenty twenty four, and you know,
Speaker 1: to quote the twice in Peach ninety one counts four
Speaker 1: times indicted former president and insurrectionist Donald Trump, This shit
Speaker 1: is going to be wild. This week, the Colorado Supreme
Speaker 1: Court removed Donald Trump from the ballot because of the
Speaker 1: Fourteenth Amendment, Section three, that says that in off of
Speaker 1: the United States that has participated in an insurrection can
Speaker 1: no longer hold federal office, and by virtue of not
Speaker 1: being able to hold office, the Colorado Supreme Court has said,
Speaker 1: then there's no need for you to be on a ballot.
Speaker 1: In a two hundred page decision that has sent us
Speaker 1: all spinning, particularly those constitutional attorneys, analysts and so on
Speaker 1: and so forth, what I will say, as somebody who
Speaker 1: is not an attorney but knows enough, is the Constitution
Speaker 1: is very clear right. And what we have learned from
Speaker 1: these conservatives on the bench is that if nothing else,
Speaker 1: they are strict constitutionalists so long as it advances their
Speaker 1: own needs, greed, and desire. So when I look at this,
Speaker 1: you you don't need a degree from Harvard or Yale
Speaker 1: or anyway to look at this and say so. It's
Speaker 1: been found now twice, even in the dissenters on the Court,
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump absolutely participated in an insurrection and not
Speaker 1: even participated in led an insurrection, and that because of
Speaker 1: that fact, he cannot hold federal office. Now caveat. That
Speaker 1: does not mean that he can't run for office. It
Speaker 1: means that he can't hold it. The Constitution and the
Speaker 1: founding fathers were doing the good good work of looking
Speaker 1: into their crystal ball and trying to prevent anyone that
Speaker 1: did not have the best interests of these United States
Speaker 1: and uphold the Constitution at their core. Then you couldn't
Speaker 1: hold office if you break the tenants of the Constitution
Speaker 1: and try and inside a civil war. How does that
Speaker 1: not make you ineligible to hold office. So this case
Speaker 1: is now going to be kicked up to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: The Court is staying the decision until January fourth, because
Speaker 1: January fifth is the day that I gather that those
Speaker 1: that are going to be on the ballot will be
Speaker 1: on the ballot, will be placed on the ballot. The
Speaker 1: Secretary of State has said in Colorado that they will
Speaker 1: follow whatever the law is. So if there is no
Speaker 1: hearing from the Supreme Court before then, then Donald Trump
Speaker 1: is not going to appear on the ballot. This then
Speaker 1: opens the door for other states. But the reality is
Speaker 1: is that the Supreme Court is going to hear two
Speaker 1: very important cases involving Donald Trump at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the year. This Colorado decision where they're going to decide
Speaker 1: whether or not they're going to just disregard the Constitution
Speaker 1: and go in even deeper in the bag for their
Speaker 1: daddy and their billionaire sugar daddies with this decision, the
Speaker 1: second one being Jack Smith saying you need to decide
Speaker 1: once and for all whether or not Donald Trump can
Speaker 1: be prosecuted because he is and was a former US president.
Speaker 1: So what is the deal? Because I don't want to
Speaker 1: do this back and forth shit. So the Constitution is
Speaker 1: in play, as is the total authority of the President
Speaker 1: of the United States to commit illegal acts and be
Speaker 1: held accountable for them. With these two decisions, the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court will put the final nail in the coffin of
Speaker 1: our democracy because if they decide that a president, when
Speaker 1: in office and outside of office, is in fact above
Speaker 1: the law.
Speaker 2: They have just.
Speaker 1: Opened the door, put out all green lights on the
Speaker 1: path to hell, and green lighted authoritarianism and fascism in
Speaker 1: this country, which means that they will be out of
Speaker 1: a fucking job. So we're in a wild place, folks,
Speaker 1: And we have not even turned the page into twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four yet, But this just signals to me, get
Speaker 1: as much rest hydration, you know, stretching, alignment, grounding that
Speaker 1: you can, because this year coming is fit to be wild.
Speaker 1: Coming up next my conversation as we close out the
Speaker 1: year with our friend Mary Trump to give us her
Speaker 1: thoughts on twenty twenty three and what she is anticipating
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. Folks, It's been such a long time,
Speaker 1: and I'm so happy to welcome back Mary Trump to
Speaker 1: WOKF Daily. I would love to say, I mean, Mary,
Speaker 1: it is great to see you. It is great too,
Speaker 1: you know, have the opportunity to be in conversation, and
Speaker 1: I'd love to say, like, I wish we had nothing
Speaker 1: to talk about. I wish we had nothing to review.
Speaker 1: But as this year is coming to a close and
Speaker 1: as we are looking ahead I'm not feeling good about
Speaker 1: where things are, and that is an understatement. And marry.
Speaker 1: Every time I post a video on TikTok and put
Speaker 1: it up on Instagram about why we need to not
Speaker 1: vote for a person but vote for democracy, my comment
Speaker 1: section is becoming ever so filled with people that are
Speaker 1: basically telling me to shut the fuck up. So what
Speaker 1: are you feeling and sensing about this country? As this
Speaker 1: year comes to in close and we're looking at again.
Speaker 1: I can't say it enough, the most consequential election of
Speaker 1: our life, of our lifetime.
Speaker 2: If you guys want fascism, don't vote, vote third party
Speaker 2: or vote for Donald Trump. Stop having temper tantrums. Seriously,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to If that sounds not just, it probably does,
Speaker 2: it probably is, but we cannot listen. I know it
Speaker 2: absolutely sucks having to choose the lesser of two evils,
Speaker 2: but I think that's overstating it quite honestly. We need
Speaker 2: to put everything into context we look at. We need
Speaker 2: to look at the hand Biden was dealt when he
Speaker 2: came into office. We conveniently forget about the horror show
Speaker 2: we were experiencing between the economic collapse, COVID, the Big Lie,
Speaker 2: the January sixth, insurrection, treason, an entire party just turning
Speaker 2: its back on democracy. Things are worse now than they
Speaker 2: were then. And that's not because of Joe Biden. Okay,
Speaker 2: I get it. I don't agree with a lot of
Speaker 2: the things he does. I don't agree with a lot
Speaker 2: of things he says. But who is Donald Trump going
Speaker 2: to handle the situation between Israel and Hamas better? Is
Speaker 2: Donald Trump going to make your life better while while
Speaker 2: Joe Biden is doing the hard work and making the
Speaker 2: wrong calls. Yes, I agree on occasion he is making
Speaker 2: the wrong calls. You got to look at the economy.
Speaker 2: You have to look at the jobs that have been created.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump is selling NFTs to his rooms. He brings
Speaker 2: nothing to the table in terms of making this country better,
Speaker 2: making this country safer for all people, making this country
Speaker 2: a stronger democracy, making it possible for more people to vote.
Speaker 2: We cannot indulge ourselves the way many of us did
Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen. We can't do it because not only
Speaker 2: will twenty twenty four be the most important of our
Speaker 2: election of our lifetime, it will be the last one
Speaker 2: of our lifetime. If we don't just suck it up
Speaker 2: and look at the bigger picture. Okay, we'll have a
Speaker 2: different candidate in twenty twenty eight who hopefully will check
Speaker 2: off more boxes for more people. But let's face it,
Speaker 2: you know, he Biden is still probably in many ways,
Speaker 2: the best president in my lifetime. Okay. I had massive
Speaker 2: disagreements with Bill Clinton. I had a lot of disagreements
Speaker 2: with President by President Obama, although understanding that there was
Speaker 2: context there too. You know, the Republicans had big majorities,
Speaker 2: and he his hands were tied in a lot of cases.
Speaker 2: But nobody's perfect. And again, like you said at the
Speaker 2: very beginning, Daniel, we cannot vote for a person. That's
Speaker 2: what got us. George W. Bush, who'd you rather have
Speaker 2: a beer with? I don't give a shit. I'm never
Speaker 2: gonna have a beer with either one of these people.
Speaker 2: I want to. I want the guy in the Oval
Speaker 2: office whose party believes in democracy, believes in fighting climate change,
Speaker 2: believes in getting the best most pro democratic people in
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court, believes in voting rights, and on and
Speaker 2: on and on. You know, listen, sorry, I'm raveling, but no, please,
Speaker 2: it's just so frustrating. And yes, part of it's frustrating
Speaker 2: is because Joe whya needs to stop talking sometimes, Yes,
Speaker 2: and he's creating complications that we don't need for sure,
Speaker 2: But you know, it's not his fault that October seventh
Speaker 2: happened last I checked. It's it's a very complex situation.
Speaker 2: There's a lot there are a lot of reasons that
Speaker 2: many people aren't talking about it because everybody wants it
Speaker 2: to be black and white, and it's not. It's a
Speaker 2: I this is a thousand year long or a millennia long,
Speaker 2: complicated problem that is way above my pay grade. I
Speaker 2: you know, I don't understand enough, but I do think
Speaker 2: that we should be able to say, you know, what
Speaker 2: happened on October seventh was where crimes against humanity and
Speaker 2: something to be done, and yes, let's protect it is
Speaker 2: in Palestadians, and let's pursue a two state solution. And
Speaker 2: by the way, a huge part of the problem is
Speaker 2: Benjamin at Yaho. But he is not Israel. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: just like Donald Trump hopefully wasn't America. But if he
Speaker 2: gets in office again, yep, this country will be painted
Speaker 2: with that broadbrush and will deserve it, you know.
Speaker 1: And you bring up so many valuable points, and they're
Speaker 1: the ones that I agree wholeheartedly on Biden is not
Speaker 1: doing us any favors. Biden, however, because our memory is
Speaker 1: so short, right, and our memory is so short one,
Speaker 1: because we just continue to experience layered crises and trauma
Speaker 1: that don't allow us sometimes the luxury of reflection because
Speaker 1: we're so busy reacting and doing right. Reflection, re quiet
Speaker 1: is a slowdown to look around and say, is my
Speaker 1: life better right now than it was four years prior?
Speaker 1: And you know, arguably right. I got off the phone
Speaker 1: with my mother today and she was going to the
Speaker 1: grocery store and she's just like Jesus Christ, I cannot
Speaker 1: leave this store without dropping two hundred dollars. And what
Speaker 1: is in my cart is less than what was in
Speaker 1: my cart, you know, a year ago. And I think
Speaker 1: that without context as to why these things are happening,
Speaker 1: as you know, a friend of mine said the other day,
Speaker 1: Rashad Robinson from Color of Change. He said, without the context,
Speaker 1: this administration creates gaps for Donald Trump and Republicans to
Speaker 1: fill in with their made up stories as to why
Speaker 1: prices are high and people can't afford things. Meanwhile, they
Speaker 1: have created the corporate greed that has allowed for these
Speaker 1: types of issues to soar shareholders and CEO wages to soar,
Speaker 1: while the middle class and lower class is not received
Speaker 1: a pay raise in thirty years right and can't keep
Speaker 1: pace with inflation.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, there was a poll that came out, I
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe a week ago, and I don't remember
Speaker 2: precisely what the question was, but it was, you know,
Speaker 2: is crime a problem? Huge people? Percentage of people said yes.
Speaker 2: Is the economy better? Huge percentage of people said no. Now,
Speaker 2: the truth of the matter is that, statistically speaking, it's
Speaker 2: the reverse. Crime is down, wages are up, prices are down,
Speaker 2: et cetera. But and that is not you know, the
Speaker 2: news isn't the poll number. The news is the fact
Speaker 2: that the media isn't educating people. That's the easiest job.
Speaker 2: Like if you are mistaken about those things, whose fault
Speaker 2: is that it's the fault of the people who are
Speaker 2: supposed to be telling you the truth of what's going on. Now,
Speaker 2: it happens to be the case that most people vote
Speaker 2: on the economy, and the economy is blamed on whoever's
Speaker 2: in charge, or whoever's in charge is given the credit
Speaker 2: for the economy if it's going well, But as you said,
Speaker 2: that leaves out some very essential things that are beyond
Speaker 2: the control of whoever's in the Oval office. For example,
Speaker 2: gas prices. If Saudi Arabia is cutting production because they
Speaker 2: want to hurt Democrats and help Republicans, there's literally nothing
Speaker 2: Joe Biden could do about it except release reserves in
Speaker 2: this country. And sometimes that works and sometimes that doesn't.
Speaker 2: If prices have gone up, and yet let's say, let's
Speaker 2: say let's stick with gas prices, let me say it
Speaker 2: wasn't Saudi Arabia. Gas prices are up not because Saudi
Speaker 2: Arabia's limiting production, not because of anything Joe Biden has done,
Speaker 2: but because the oil companies made tens of billions of
Speaker 2: dollars in profits and they're price gouging. Okay, if prices
Speaker 2: have gone up, it might be because of inflation. Well, inflation
Speaker 2: has been a global phenomenon that is out of anybody's control.
Speaker 2: Again for reasons that are way above my pay rate.
Speaker 2: I don't understand any other shit. However, America's inflation rate
Speaker 2: was lower than almost every single country's in the world,
Speaker 2: So you know, to say the well, the economy's bad,
Speaker 2: so it's all Biden's fault again, that is just a
Speaker 2: failure in messaging. And there's only so much an administration
Speaker 2: can do like that. You know, these are facts that
Speaker 2: need to be presented to the American people by the
Speaker 2: people whose job it is to present those facts.
Speaker 1: And that's to me consistently, the problem with this administration,
Speaker 1: but with Democrats as a whole, is that the messaging
Speaker 1: and the narrative is never scripted in a way to
Speaker 1: give people context and to treat the American people frankly
Speaker 1: like the fucking adults that they are right, which is,
Speaker 1: let me explain to you how these things work right,
Speaker 1: And that is the that was, I should say, the
Speaker 1: job of the media. But we know that the media
Speaker 1: hasn't done their job of educating the public for quite
Speaker 1: some time quite you know, actually the opposite, because they
Speaker 1: found more money, uh in using Donald Trump as entertainment
Speaker 1: for their for their advertisers than they did in trying
Speaker 1: at all to save our democracy. I want to switch
Speaker 1: gears for a moment, not off of not off of
Speaker 1: this upcoming election, but just in terms of there are
Speaker 1: a lot of people that put stock and wait behind
Speaker 1: all of these impending trials. There are many, there are
Speaker 1: lots of people that are just like, well, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna you know, put my you know, cross my fingers
Speaker 1: and my eyes and my toes and my legs and
Speaker 1: all of these things, and just hope that, you know,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is convicted on something. But everything that we
Speaker 1: see is showing us that time is actually not on
Speaker 1: our side. How are you feeling about these cases right now?
Speaker 1: Because there are many and the way that the judges
Speaker 1: in these cases have been treating Donald Trump's attempts at
Speaker 1: tampering a jury pool, endangering the lives of the judges
Speaker 1: and the clerks and so on.
Speaker 3: Oh boy, uh and uh, I'm gonna take a sip
Speaker 3: of water, yeah, because you just yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: Great radio and there's a pause for somebody to take
Speaker 2: a drink and it's only water. But because it's it's
Speaker 2: already two fifteen, and I'm still only drinking water despite
Speaker 2: the horrors. Uh okay, oh boy, it is. Listen. The
Speaker 2: bottom line is he needs to be defeated resoundingly. I
Speaker 2: don't think anything's gonna happen between now and November to
Speaker 2: take him off the board. It'll be the nominee. I
Speaker 2: hope I'm wrong, you know, I hope. I hope something intervenes,
Speaker 2: but it's certainly not going to be another Republican Nope.
Speaker 2: We've gotten that message light and clear. U. As for
Speaker 2: the cases, I think that our best hope is that
Speaker 2: at least one of them, and I think the best
Speaker 2: chance is the January sixth case that Jack Jack Smith
Speaker 2: is running will happen before the election, will be conclud
Speaker 2: before the election, you know, the New York case. That's
Speaker 2: the civil case that's happening in New York right now.
Speaker 2: I think the result of that matters only in so
Speaker 2: far as it will damage Donald personally, and that counts
Speaker 2: and financially. Financially, yeah, financially, but mostly psychologically. I think
Speaker 2: that is important. All of that having been said, however,
Speaker 2: it is beyond infuriating, and that he's gotten away, he
Speaker 2: continues to get away with such horrific, dangerous behavior. I
Speaker 2: don't get it. I I the only way I can
Speaker 2: understand it is that that these judges are protecting the
Speaker 2: case from an inevitable appeal, you know, not giving him
Speaker 2: any him or his lawyers any ammunition to appeal the
Speaker 2: case based on their behavior. But that's just not good enough,
Speaker 2: because he should be saying stioned more than other people
Speaker 2: because he has a platform, he has a megaphone to
Speaker 2: call other people to do his bidding. We know for
Speaker 2: a fact that people are making horrific, specific death threats
Speaker 2: against officers of the court and their families. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: know this. We know that Donald is not just slinging mud,
Speaker 2: but he's lying about these people. And those lies get
Speaker 2: amplified in a way that we can possibly, you know, calculate.
Speaker 2: So I listen, you know better than and than most that, uh,
Speaker 2: there's never been justice in America, just like j America
Speaker 2: has never been a true democracy. We know that we
Speaker 2: have to face it. This is just another in a
Speaker 2: very very long life kind of examples of our two
Speaker 2: tier justice system that favors white people, rich people, and
Speaker 2: especially rich white people. So you know, and that's that's
Speaker 2: that's pretty clear, you know, just like we need to
Speaker 2: go into this next election if we give a shit
Speaker 2: about democracy that we're not voting to save American democracy.
Speaker 2: We're voting to have the opportunity to create it. The
Speaker 2: status part that part, yes, the status quo is unacceptable.
Speaker 2: And if we keep having to fight our rear flank,
Speaker 2: you know, trying to snatch democracy from the jaws of autocracy,
Speaker 2: or winning by such narrow margins that we can't do
Speaker 2: anything except remain in stasis. That'll never happen, and we'll
Speaker 2: we'll keep having this conversation every four years unless and
Speaker 2: until somebody like Donald Trump gets into office, in which
Speaker 2: case there's no conversation to be had. Yeah, and we'll
Speaker 2: have to leave the country. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I mean I continue to say this to people
Speaker 1: like and I mean in it a very serious way.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's interesting because in twenty sixteen, I
Speaker 1: remember people saying, well, if Trump wins, I'm going to
Speaker 1: I'm moving to Canada, right. I think that until then
Speaker 1: we thought, okay, well if that happens. We don't think
Speaker 1: it's going to happen, but if it does, you know again,
Speaker 1: we thought that our democracy was a lot stronger than
Speaker 1: we realized. Okay, twenty twenty comes, and you know it
Speaker 1: is people in the middle of a pandemic realizing that
Speaker 1: you know, they've lost family members, friends, colleagues, and this
Speaker 1: man is telling them to inject bleach and this is
Speaker 1: just crazy town, right, and so we can't continue on
Speaker 1: this path. And now here we are and we're thinking
Speaker 1: that well, you know, he has all of these lawsuits.
Speaker 1: MAGO will go once he does. And what it has
Speaker 1: done is spread like the cancer that it is, It's
Speaker 1: gotten incredibly worse. I mean watching you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you make yourself watch these Republican debates. I
Speaker 1: know that I can only stomach the clips, to be honest,
Speaker 1: And I'm watching this stage show and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: these are a bunch of buffoons and dangerous buffoons, right
Speaker 1: because on like Trump, Nikki Haley knows how government works,
Speaker 1: but she's still saying some absolutely heinous things.
Speaker 2: Don't say gay didn't go far enough, didn't go far enough.
Speaker 2: I likes Nicky for being honest about what a fucking
Speaker 2: creepy were.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, and you're standing up on
Speaker 1: a stage attacking trans youth, right like the monster that
Speaker 1: you are. And so when we look at Texas too,
Speaker 1: and we see what just happened recently with a pregnant
Speaker 1: woman being forced now by the Texas Supreme Court to
Speaker 1: flee the state where she will then most likely return
Speaker 1: and be prosecuted, right because they're going to make an
Speaker 1: example because the pain and the cruelty, the infertility, the
Speaker 1: possible death is not enough. Now we need to turn
Speaker 1: you into a full fledged criminal to make an example
Speaker 1: of you. I just is it enough?
Speaker 2: Mary?
Speaker 1: I guess is the question? Like you know, I have
Speaker 1: succumb I think to the polls too early on. I
Speaker 1: have succumbed to the comment section when I tell people
Speaker 1: don't read the comments, but I have because I use
Speaker 1: it as a focus group. So my spirits right now
Speaker 1: as we head into this season are not high. Do
Speaker 1: you think there's enough time, I guess for the realization
Speaker 1: to hit people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do, because look, it's going to go by
Speaker 2: very quickly, but eleven months is a long time, first
Speaker 2: of all. Secondly, polls are not predictive. They're illustrative of
Speaker 2: this particular moment, so they're useless. Comments sections are based
Speaker 2: on frustrations in the moment, and it's unhealthy. Listen, I
Speaker 2: have my fair share of self loathing, but there's so
Speaker 2: much I'm not going to subject myself to. One of
Speaker 2: that is watching a Republican quote unquote debate, and another
Speaker 2: is just reading comments because sometimes, yeah, it might seem
Speaker 2: that the vast majority of the comments are negative, but
Speaker 2: it's because, like you know, one out of fifty might be,
Speaker 2: but the negatives ones are the ones that stick out
Speaker 2: and sting. And I just I right now, I don't
Speaker 2: have patience because it's exhausting and we can't we can't
Speaker 2: start another fight that quite honestly is irrelevant to what's
Speaker 2: going on right now, and is irrelevant to the fight
Speaker 2: we're going to be having in Novembers or you know,
Speaker 2: in the months living up to November. So listen, I again,
Speaker 2: I understand why some people might think that Cornell West
Speaker 2: Will will do everything that they want him to do,
Speaker 2: as if being president exists in a vacuum and you
Speaker 2: don't have to negotiate with other people in your own party,
Speaker 2: let alone the other party. Maybe it's Mary Anne Williamson
Speaker 2: for you. Okay, I have two questions though about those
Speaker 2: two people, because Dean Philip, if you're for Dean Phillips,
Speaker 2: there's nothing I could do for you anyway. So for
Speaker 2: third party candidates and an allegedly little Jill Stein throwing,
Speaker 2: what have they done in the last four years or
Speaker 2: eight years to grow a movement that would make them
Speaker 2: viable candidates? Nothing, as far as I'm aware. But leaving
Speaker 2: all that aside, let's say that any one of those
Speaker 2: people will do everything they want them to do. They
Speaker 2: will be our liberal, progressive champion and solve all of
Speaker 2: our problems. Guess what, guys, One that would never happen,
Speaker 2: and two, they are not going to be the Democratic
Speaker 2: nominee in twenty twenty four. That's just reality. So you know.
Speaker 1: You have.
Speaker 2: Two choices here, an imperfect but real opportunity to set
Speaker 2: the Democratic Party up for real change and power in
Speaker 2: the next decades, or fascism in which the two people
Speaker 2: you're listening to right now are going to be on
Speaker 2: a list. Yeah. So we just need to be real.
Speaker 2: And I've said this before. It is so shitty to
Speaker 2: feel all the time like the person you're voting for
Speaker 2: isn't really the person you want. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 2: there with with Joe Biden. I'm really not because nobody
Speaker 2: gets it right. And if you compare his record to
Speaker 2: Donald Trump's, yep, let alone other Democrats, but Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: like that's what you want, Well then I okay, but
Speaker 2: I will Uh. I don't think you're gonna like it.
Speaker 2: Let's put it that way, like even people on his
Speaker 2: side of things, their lives are going to be appreciably
Speaker 2: worse if he gets back in, because he doesn't care
Speaker 2: about them either.
Speaker 1: And I think that that's what people have to understand,
Speaker 1: is that as bad as things may feel, and they do,
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to argue people out of your
Speaker 1: feelings because they're valid, but as bad as things now,
Speaker 1: they can always get worse. And what we have to
Speaker 1: understand is that if in fact Donald Trump becomes president again,
Speaker 1: there is no recourse, There is no redo, there is
Speaker 1: no another bite at the apple, there is no Okay,
Speaker 1: let's go get them next time in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1: There will be no twenty twenty eight, right, there will
Speaker 1: be no election. And in the same way that even
Speaker 1: if there is an election, it'll look like Iran's elections,
Speaker 1: it'll look like Hungary's elections, it'll look like Turkey's elections.
Speaker 1: They have elections, it'll look like Russia's elections, right, which
Speaker 1: is in name only. And so I think that people
Speaker 1: need to wrap their minds around. And I'm going to
Speaker 1: give folks their time to then to be angry, to
Speaker 1: do the most. But you know, come August, come September
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four, we all better be riding the
Speaker 1: same train.
Speaker 2: Yeah, along those lens. I just want to say one
Speaker 2: other thing. A huge part of the reason things feel
Speaker 2: so techble right now, it's because of all the damage
Speaker 2: Donald Trump has done to this country since twenty fifteen.
Speaker 2: It's unrelenting, it's unceasing, it's exhausting, it's demoralizing. Think of
Speaker 2: the harm he's caused. Think of the death, the devastation,
Speaker 2: the economic hardships, the racism, the anti semitism, the anti
Speaker 2: immigrant hatred, the elevation of the worst people among us,
Speaker 2: like Stephen Miller, who, by the way, will be in
Speaker 2: the cabinet and will have enormous amounts of power to
Speaker 2: enact his brand of fascism. It's because we've been dealing
Speaker 2: with this for so long. So when it feels like
Speaker 2: when our side fumbles, you know it's the end of
Speaker 2: the world. But again, context is everything. It's like when
Speaker 2: you know, I had a not a great day yesterday
Speaker 2: and some of those little little things, you know, but
Speaker 2: it's like, why am Why am I so bothered? I
Speaker 2: mean some of it wasn't so little either, but still
Speaker 2: my reaction was felt over the top, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: because I've been stressed out of my mind since November ninth,
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, and it hasn't stopped. Yeah, so give yourself
Speaker 2: a break, everybody, like, give yourself an opportunity to recognize
Speaker 2: just what you've had to deal with. And I apologize
Speaker 2: for having said temper tantrum earlier because it's not We're
Speaker 2: not having temper tantrums. We are feeling our legitimate feelings.
Speaker 2: Is very very very difficult, trying times, and it's easy
Speaker 2: to feel angry and isolated. But whatever the case, we
Speaker 2: are going to have to pull together. And you know, sometimes, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're gonna say things that pissed people, piss each other off,
Speaker 2: and sometimes we're gonna say the wrong thing and apologize
Speaker 2: like adults do. But we're going to have to pull
Speaker 2: together and move on.
Speaker 1: My friend Mary Trump, thank you so much for making
Speaker 1: the time for wok F and we will get through.
Speaker 1: We will get through over these next eleven months, and
Speaker 1: we will do so together. So we appreciate you well.
Speaker 2: Thanks Danielle. It's great to be here, and thanks for
Speaker 2: everything you do because we need it.
Speaker 1: That is it for me today, dear friends on woke
Speaker 1: a F as always power to the people and to
Speaker 1: all the people. Power get woke and stay woke as
Speaker 1: fuck