WEBVTT - Make America A Democracy For Once 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:14.520 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wok F Daily with 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:20.040 Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Home Bunker. Folks, 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:25.800 this week as we close out for the holiday, provided 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:32.839 us with a preview of twenty twenty four, and you know, 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:38.800 to quote the twice in Peach ninety one counts four 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:45.120 times indicted former president and insurrectionist Donald Trump, This shit 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:48.959 is going to be wild. This week, the Colorado Supreme 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:56.120 Court removed Donald Trump from the ballot because of the 0:00:56.160 --> 0:01:00.520 Fourteenth Amendment, Section three, that says that in off of 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:05.280 the United States that has participated in an insurrection can 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:10.679 no longer hold federal office, and by virtue of not 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:15.440 being able to hold office, the Colorado Supreme Court has said, 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.600 then there's no need for you to be on a ballot. 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:25.080 In a two hundred page decision that has sent us 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:32.720 all spinning, particularly those constitutional attorneys, analysts and so on 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:35.600 and so forth, what I will say, as somebody who 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:42.360 is not an attorney but knows enough, is the Constitution 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:46.839 is very clear right. And what we have learned from 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:50.440 these conservatives on the bench is that if nothing else, 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:54.840 they are strict constitutionalists so long as it advances their 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:59.320 own needs, greed, and desire. So when I look at this, 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:02.040 you you don't need a degree from Harvard or Yale 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:06.280 or anyway to look at this and say so. It's 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:10.600 been found now twice, even in the dissenters on the Court, 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:17.200 that Donald Trump absolutely participated in an insurrection and not 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:22.960 even participated in led an insurrection, and that because of 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:27.920 that fact, he cannot hold federal office. Now caveat. That 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:30.840 does not mean that he can't run for office. It 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:34.840 means that he can't hold it. The Constitution and the 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:38.600 founding fathers were doing the good good work of looking 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:43.240 into their crystal ball and trying to prevent anyone that 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:47.680 did not have the best interests of these United States 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:52.120 and uphold the Constitution at their core. Then you couldn't 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:56.480 hold office if you break the tenants of the Constitution 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:00.600 and try and inside a civil war. How does that 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:09.280 not make you ineligible to hold office. So this case 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.800 is now going to be kicked up to the Supreme Court. 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:18.120 The Court is staying the decision until January fourth, because 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:26.040 January fifth is the day that I gather that those 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:27.960 that are going to be on the ballot will be 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:32.400 on the ballot, will be placed on the ballot. The 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:35.480 Secretary of State has said in Colorado that they will 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:40.320 follow whatever the law is. So if there is no 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:44.240 hearing from the Supreme Court before then, then Donald Trump 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:47.960 is not going to appear on the ballot. This then 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:52.520 opens the door for other states. But the reality is 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:56.640 is that the Supreme Court is going to hear two 0:03:56.960 --> 0:04:00.520 very important cases involving Donald Trump at the beginning of 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:06.000 the year. This Colorado decision where they're going to decide 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:09.760 whether or not they're going to just disregard the Constitution 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:17.680 and go in even deeper in the bag for their 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:25.279 daddy and their billionaire sugar daddies with this decision, the 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:31.039 second one being Jack Smith saying you need to decide 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:33.160 once and for all whether or not Donald Trump can 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:37.840 be prosecuted because he is and was a former US president. 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:40.680 So what is the deal? Because I don't want to 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:48.080 do this back and forth shit. So the Constitution is 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:55.760 in play, as is the total authority of the President 0:04:55.800 --> 0:05:00.919 of the United States to commit illegal acts and be 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:06.320 held accountable for them. With these two decisions, the Supreme 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:12.120 Court will put the final nail in the coffin of 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:19.320 our democracy because if they decide that a president, when 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:22.200 in office and outside of office, is in fact above 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:22.719 the law. 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:24.160 They have just. 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:30.599 Opened the door, put out all green lights on the 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:37.800 path to hell, and green lighted authoritarianism and fascism in 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.760 this country, which means that they will be out of 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:46.479 a fucking job. So we're in a wild place, folks, 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:50.039 And we have not even turned the page into twenty 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:55.719 twenty four yet, But this just signals to me, get 0:05:55.760 --> 0:06:01.920 as much rest hydration, you know, stretching, alignment, grounding that 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:06.239 you can, because this year coming is fit to be wild. 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:10.400 Coming up next my conversation as we close out the 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:15.320 year with our friend Mary Trump to give us her 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:19.440 thoughts on twenty twenty three and what she is anticipating 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:26.159 in twenty twenty four. Folks, It's been such a long time, 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:30.360 and I'm so happy to welcome back Mary Trump to 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:34.039 WOKF Daily. I would love to say, I mean, Mary, 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.440 it is great to see you. It is great too, 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.800 you know, have the opportunity to be in conversation, and 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.760 I'd love to say, like, I wish we had nothing 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:46.360 to talk about. I wish we had nothing to review. 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:53.600 But as this year is coming to a close and 0:06:54.000 --> 0:07:00.760 as we are looking ahead I'm not feeling good about 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:04.960 where things are, and that is an understatement. And marry. 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:09.360 Every time I post a video on TikTok and put 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.760 it up on Instagram about why we need to not 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:16.200 vote for a person but vote for democracy, my comment 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.840 section is becoming ever so filled with people that are 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:23.680 basically telling me to shut the fuck up. So what 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:30.480 are you feeling and sensing about this country? As this 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:35.000 year comes to in close and we're looking at again. 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:39.640 I can't say it enough, the most consequential election of 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:41.560 our life, of our lifetime. 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:49.680 If you guys want fascism, don't vote, vote third party 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:54.280 or vote for Donald Trump. Stop having temper tantrums. Seriously, 0:07:54.520 --> 0:08:01.559 I'm sorry to If that sounds not just, it probably does, 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:07.360 it probably is, but we cannot listen. I know it 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:15.600 absolutely sucks having to choose the lesser of two evils, 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:19.200 but I think that's overstating it quite honestly. We need 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:21.320 to put everything into context we look at. We need 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.680 to look at the hand Biden was dealt when he 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:28.000 came into office. We conveniently forget about the horror show 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:35.040 we were experiencing between the economic collapse, COVID, the Big Lie, 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:40.560 the January sixth, insurrection, treason, an entire party just turning 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.760 its back on democracy. Things are worse now than they 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:47.320 were then. And that's not because of Joe Biden. Okay, 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.520 I get it. I don't agree with a lot of 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:53.120 the things he does. I don't agree with a lot 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:56.920 of things he says. But who is Donald Trump going 0:08:56.960 --> 0:09:00.960 to handle the situation between Israel and Hamas better? Is 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:04.080 Donald Trump going to make your life better while while 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:06.920 Joe Biden is doing the hard work and making the 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:09.560 wrong calls. Yes, I agree on occasion he is making 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:11.320 the wrong calls. You got to look at the economy. 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.760 You have to look at the jobs that have been created. 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:20.360 Donald Trump is selling NFTs to his rooms. He brings 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:24.280 nothing to the table in terms of making this country better, 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:27.560 making this country safer for all people, making this country 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:31.520 a stronger democracy, making it possible for more people to vote. 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:36.439 We cannot indulge ourselves the way many of us did 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:40.720 in twenty sixteen. We can't do it because not only 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:43.200 will twenty twenty four be the most important of our 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:47.160 election of our lifetime, it will be the last one 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:51.760 of our lifetime. If we don't just suck it up 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.120 and look at the bigger picture. Okay, we'll have a 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:59.600 different candidate in twenty twenty eight who hopefully will check 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.760 off more boxes for more people. But let's face it, 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:06.959 you know, he Biden is still probably in many ways, 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:12.440 the best president in my lifetime. Okay. I had massive 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:18.880 disagreements with Bill Clinton. I had a lot of disagreements 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:23.760 with President by President Obama, although understanding that there was 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:27.800 context there too. You know, the Republicans had big majorities, 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:31.000 and he his hands were tied in a lot of cases. 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.880 But nobody's perfect. And again, like you said at the 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.760 very beginning, Daniel, we cannot vote for a person. That's 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:40.200 what got us. George W. Bush, who'd you rather have 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:42.080 a beer with? I don't give a shit. I'm never 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.240 gonna have a beer with either one of these people. 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:46.480 I want to. I want the guy in the Oval 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:51.160 office whose party believes in democracy, believes in fighting climate change, 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.079 believes in getting the best most pro democratic people in 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:57.200 the Supreme Court, believes in voting rights, and on and 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:02.480 on and on. You know, listen, sorry, I'm raveling, but no, please, 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:06.240 it's just so frustrating. And yes, part of it's frustrating 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:09.600 is because Joe whya needs to stop talking sometimes, Yes, 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:15.840 and he's creating complications that we don't need for sure, 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:20.680 But you know, it's not his fault that October seventh 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:25.840 happened last I checked. It's it's a very complex situation. 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.400 There's a lot there are a lot of reasons that 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:34.000 many people aren't talking about it because everybody wants it 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:37.800 to be black and white, and it's not. It's a 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:43.319 I this is a thousand year long or a millennia long, 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:48.520 complicated problem that is way above my pay grade. I 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.040 you know, I don't understand enough, but I do think 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:54.680 that we should be able to say, you know, what 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:59.440 happened on October seventh was where crimes against humanity and 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:03.080 something to be done, and yes, let's protect it is 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:07.520 in Palestadians, and let's pursue a two state solution. And 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:09.600 by the way, a huge part of the problem is 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:13.840 Benjamin at Yaho. But he is not Israel. Yeah, he 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:18.520 just like Donald Trump hopefully wasn't America. But if he 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:22.640 gets in office again, yep, this country will be painted 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.600 with that broadbrush and will deserve it, you know. 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:29.240 And you bring up so many valuable points, and they're 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:33.720 the ones that I agree wholeheartedly on Biden is not 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:38.880 doing us any favors. Biden, however, because our memory is 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:41.960 so short, right, and our memory is so short one, 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:48.560 because we just continue to experience layered crises and trauma 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:54.640 that don't allow us sometimes the luxury of reflection because 0:12:54.679 --> 0:13:00.000 we're so busy reacting and doing right. Reflection, re quiet 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:05.080 is a slowdown to look around and say, is my 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:09.720 life better right now than it was four years prior? 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:14.160 And you know, arguably right. I got off the phone 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:17.760 with my mother today and she was going to the 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:20.960 grocery store and she's just like Jesus Christ, I cannot 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:25.120 leave this store without dropping two hundred dollars. And what 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:27.280 is in my cart is less than what was in 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:31.640 my cart, you know, a year ago. And I think 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:35.720 that without context as to why these things are happening, 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:39.040 as you know, a friend of mine said the other day, 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:43.439 Rashad Robinson from Color of Change. He said, without the context, 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:49.920 this administration creates gaps for Donald Trump and Republicans to 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.880 fill in with their made up stories as to why 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:57.720 prices are high and people can't afford things. Meanwhile, they 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:04.440 have created the corporate greed that has allowed for these 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:10.400 types of issues to soar shareholders and CEO wages to soar, 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.560 while the middle class and lower class is not received 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:16.600 a pay raise in thirty years right and can't keep 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:18.679 pace with inflation. 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:25.120 Well, listen, there was a poll that came out, I 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:28.320 don't know, maybe a week ago, and I don't remember 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:33.880 precisely what the question was, but it was, you know, 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:38.640 is crime a problem? Huge people? Percentage of people said yes. 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:43.120 Is the economy better? Huge percentage of people said no. Now, 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:46.440 the truth of the matter is that, statistically speaking, it's 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:51.400 the reverse. Crime is down, wages are up, prices are down, 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:55.040 et cetera. But and that is not you know, the 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.800 news isn't the poll number. The news is the fact 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:01.360 that the media isn't educating people. That's the easiest job. 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:05.080 Like if you are mistaken about those things, whose fault 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.080 is that it's the fault of the people who are 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:09.600 supposed to be telling you the truth of what's going on. Now, 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:14.120 it happens to be the case that most people vote 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:18.240 on the economy, and the economy is blamed on whoever's 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:20.600 in charge, or whoever's in charge is given the credit 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:24.680 for the economy if it's going well, But as you said, 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:29.520 that leaves out some very essential things that are beyond 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:32.640 the control of whoever's in the Oval office. For example, 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:38.040 gas prices. If Saudi Arabia is cutting production because they 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.960 want to hurt Democrats and help Republicans, there's literally nothing 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:44.520 Joe Biden could do about it except release reserves in 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:48.080 this country. And sometimes that works and sometimes that doesn't. 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:53.440 If prices have gone up, and yet let's say, let's 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:57.160 say let's stick with gas prices, let me say it 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:02.320 wasn't Saudi Arabia. Gas prices are up not because Saudi 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:05.640 Arabia's limiting production, not because of anything Joe Biden has done, 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:11.680 but because the oil companies made tens of billions of 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:16.800 dollars in profits and they're price gouging. Okay, if prices 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:20.840 have gone up, it might be because of inflation. Well, inflation 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:25.200 has been a global phenomenon that is out of anybody's control. 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:27.880 Again for reasons that are way above my pay rate. 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:33.160 I don't understand any other shit. However, America's inflation rate 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:37.000 was lower than almost every single country's in the world, 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:41.680 So you know, to say the well, the economy's bad, 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:44.600 so it's all Biden's fault again, that is just a 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:49.280 failure in messaging. And there's only so much an administration 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.120 can do like that. You know, these are facts that 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.760 need to be presented to the American people by the 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:57.080 people whose job it is to present those facts. 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:02.080 And that's to me consistently, the problem with this administration, 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:06.240 but with Democrats as a whole, is that the messaging 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:09.520 and the narrative is never scripted in a way to 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.880 give people context and to treat the American people frankly 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.600 like the fucking adults that they are right, which is, 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.760 let me explain to you how these things work right, 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:21.520 And that is the that was, I should say, the 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:23.639 job of the media. But we know that the media 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:27.359 hasn't done their job of educating the public for quite 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:31.520 some time quite you know, actually the opposite, because they 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:36.080 found more money, uh in using Donald Trump as entertainment 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:41.600 for their for their advertisers than they did in trying 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:50.920 at all to save our democracy. I want to switch 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:54.639 gears for a moment, not off of not off of 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:58.800 this upcoming election, but just in terms of there are 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:02.920 a lot of people that put stock and wait behind 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:07.280 all of these impending trials. There are many, there are 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:10.119 lots of people that are just like, well, I'm just 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:14.680 gonna you know, put my you know, cross my fingers 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:16.720 and my eyes and my toes and my legs and 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:19.840 all of these things, and just hope that, you know, 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:23.520 Donald Trump is convicted on something. But everything that we 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.800 see is showing us that time is actually not on 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:31.320 our side. How are you feeling about these cases right now? 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:34.560 Because there are many and the way that the judges 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:40.200 in these cases have been treating Donald Trump's attempts at 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:44.560 tampering a jury pool, endangering the lives of the judges 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:45.919 and the clerks and so on. 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:54.120 Oh boy, uh and uh, I'm gonna take a sip 0:18:54.160 --> 0:19:00.960 of water, yeah, because you just yeah, it's. 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.800 Great radio and there's a pause for somebody to take 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:10.560 a drink and it's only water. But because it's it's 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:14.200 already two fifteen, and I'm still only drinking water despite 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:21.200 the horrors. Uh okay, oh boy, it is. Listen. The 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:26.760 bottom line is he needs to be defeated resoundingly. I 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:30.879 don't think anything's gonna happen between now and November to 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:34.639 take him off the board. It'll be the nominee. I 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:38.440 hope I'm wrong, you know, I hope. I hope something intervenes, 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:42.879 but it's certainly not going to be another Republican Nope. 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:47.000 We've gotten that message light and clear. U. As for 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:51.720 the cases, I think that our best hope is that 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:54.119 at least one of them, and I think the best 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:57.000 chance is the January sixth case that Jack Jack Smith 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:59.960 is running will happen before the election, will be conclud 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:04.520 before the election, you know, the New York case. That's 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:09.120 the civil case that's happening in New York right now. 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:14.359 I think the result of that matters only in so 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:19.480 far as it will damage Donald personally, and that counts 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:25.520 and financially. Financially, yeah, financially, but mostly psychologically. I think 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:29.520 that is important. All of that having been said, however, 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:39.879 it is beyond infuriating, and that he's gotten away, he 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:45.119 continues to get away with such horrific, dangerous behavior. I 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:48.360 don't get it. I I the only way I can 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:53.280 understand it is that that these judges are protecting the 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:57.280 case from an inevitable appeal, you know, not giving him 0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:01.919 any him or his lawyers any ammunition to appeal the 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:05.960 case based on their behavior. But that's just not good enough, 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:09.800 because he should be saying stioned more than other people 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:13.960 because he has a platform, he has a megaphone to 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:18.159 call other people to do his bidding. We know for 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:22.359 a fact that people are making horrific, specific death threats 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:25.840 against officers of the court and their families. Yeah, we 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:29.760 know this. We know that Donald is not just slinging mud, 0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:34.440 but he's lying about these people. And those lies get 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:40.200 amplified in a way that we can possibly, you know, calculate. 0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:49.080 So I listen, you know better than and than most that, uh, 0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:52.920 there's never been justice in America, just like j America 0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:55.520 has never been a true democracy. We know that we 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:58.760 have to face it. This is just another in a 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:01.680 very very long life kind of examples of our two 0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:07.119 tier justice system that favors white people, rich people, and 0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:14.159 especially rich white people. So you know, and that's that's 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:17.439 that's pretty clear, you know, just like we need to 0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:20.920 go into this next election if we give a shit 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:28.560 about democracy that we're not voting to save American democracy. 0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:32.760 We're voting to have the opportunity to create it. The 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:38.320 status part that part, yes, the status quo is unacceptable. 0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:41.040 And if we keep having to fight our rear flank, 0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:45.320 you know, trying to snatch democracy from the jaws of autocracy, 0:22:46.080 --> 0:22:49.320 or winning by such narrow margins that we can't do 0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:55.160 anything except remain in stasis. That'll never happen, and we'll 0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:59.399 we'll keep having this conversation every four years unless and 0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:03.119 until somebody like Donald Trump gets into office, in which 0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:06.359 case there's no conversation to be had. Yeah, and we'll 0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:08.560 have to leave the country. Yeah. 0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:10.960 And I mean I continue to say this to people 0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:13.520 like and I mean in it a very serious way. 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:16.040 And you know, it's interesting because in twenty sixteen, I 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:18.720 remember people saying, well, if Trump wins, I'm going to 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:22.200 I'm moving to Canada, right. I think that until then 0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:25.879 we thought, okay, well if that happens. We don't think 0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:28.960 it's going to happen, but if it does, you know again, 0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:32.080 we thought that our democracy was a lot stronger than 0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:36.760 we realized. Okay, twenty twenty comes, and you know it 0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:40.520 is people in the middle of a pandemic realizing that 0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:44.159 you know, they've lost family members, friends, colleagues, and this 0:23:44.240 --> 0:23:46.639 man is telling them to inject bleach and this is 0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:50.840 just crazy town, right, and so we can't continue on 0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:53.960 this path. And now here we are and we're thinking 0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:57.240 that well, you know, he has all of these lawsuits. 0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:00.800 MAGO will go once he does. And what it has 0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:03.640 done is spread like the cancer that it is, It's 0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:08.120 gotten incredibly worse. I mean watching you know, I don't 0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:12.919 know if you make yourself watch these Republican debates. I 0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:15.440 know that I can only stomach the clips, to be honest, 0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:19.159 And I'm watching this stage show and I'm just like, 0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:24.280 these are a bunch of buffoons and dangerous buffoons, right 0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:30.040 because on like Trump, Nikki Haley knows how government works, 0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:34.080 but she's still saying some absolutely heinous things. 0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:37.720 Don't say gay didn't go far enough, didn't go far enough. 0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:41.560 I likes Nicky for being honest about what a fucking 0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:42.760 creepy were. 0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:44.760 And I was just like, and you're standing up on 0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:49.679 a stage attacking trans youth, right like the monster that 0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:53.200 you are. And so when we look at Texas too, 0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:59.560 and we see what just happened recently with a pregnant 0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:06.280 woman being forced now by the Texas Supreme Court to 0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:09.920 flee the state where she will then most likely return 0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:13.320 and be prosecuted, right because they're going to make an 0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:16.800 example because the pain and the cruelty, the infertility, the 0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:19.640 possible death is not enough. Now we need to turn 0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:24.720 you into a full fledged criminal to make an example 0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:28.480 of you. I just is it enough? 0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:29.119 Mary? 0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:32.720 I guess is the question? Like you know, I have 0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:37.199 succumb I think to the polls too early on. I 0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:40.480 have succumbed to the comment section when I tell people 0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:43.080 don't read the comments, but I have because I use 0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:46.800 it as a focus group. So my spirits right now 0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:54.400 as we head into this season are not high. Do 0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:59.359 you think there's enough time, I guess for the realization 0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:01.399 to hit people. 0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:06.359 Yeah, I do, because look, it's going to go by 0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:10.000 very quickly, but eleven months is a long time, first 0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:17.240 of all. Secondly, polls are not predictive. They're illustrative of 0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:26.000 this particular moment, so they're useless. Comments sections are based 0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:30.600 on frustrations in the moment, and it's unhealthy. Listen, I 0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:34.639 have my fair share of self loathing, but there's so 0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:36.800 much I'm not going to subject myself to. One of 0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:40.280 that is watching a Republican quote unquote debate, and another 0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:44.919 is just reading comments because sometimes, yeah, it might seem 0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:47.359 that the vast majority of the comments are negative, but 0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:50.679 it's because, like you know, one out of fifty might be, 0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:53.080 but the negatives ones are the ones that stick out 0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:58.080 and sting. And I just I right now, I don't 0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:06.679 have patience because it's exhausting and we can't we can't 0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:09.920 start another fight that quite honestly is irrelevant to what's 0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:12.880 going on right now, and is irrelevant to the fight 0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:14.840 we're going to be having in Novembers or you know, 0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:18.600 in the months living up to November. So listen, I again, 0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:24.160 I understand why some people might think that Cornell West 0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:27.480 Will will do everything that they want him to do, 0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:29.960 as if being president exists in a vacuum and you 0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:32.920 don't have to negotiate with other people in your own party, 0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:36.159 let alone the other party. Maybe it's Mary Anne Williamson 0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:39.320 for you. Okay, I have two questions though about those 0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:42.000 two people, because Dean Philip, if you're for Dean Phillips, 0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:47.359 there's nothing I could do for you anyway. So for 0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:52.160 third party candidates and an allegedly little Jill Stein throwing, 0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:55.400 what have they done in the last four years or 0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:58.720 eight years to grow a movement that would make them 0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:02.439 viable candidates? Nothing, as far as I'm aware. But leaving 0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:04.800 all that aside, let's say that any one of those 0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:07.439 people will do everything they want them to do. They 0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:11.000 will be our liberal, progressive champion and solve all of 0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:14.280 our problems. Guess what, guys, One that would never happen, 0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:18.520 and two, they are not going to be the Democratic 0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:25.280 nominee in twenty twenty four. That's just reality. So you know. 0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:27.760 You have. 0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:38.000