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Speaker 1: and Scotty Scheffler. I was lucky enough a couple of

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Speaker 1: his son Scotty. Scotty's a good buddy of mine. He's

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Speaker 1: an absolute stick. I could take him anywhere and he

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Speaker 1: can shoot Paul or better. He's one of the easily

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Speaker 1: the best golfers I know in his game travels. His dad,

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Speaker 1: absolute golf addict, worked in the banking business for a

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Speaker 1: a lot of people in banking all over America. A

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Speaker 1: lot of those people in banking play golf. And they

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Speaker 1: asked me, They're like, hey, I think we can get

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Speaker 1: us on Los Angeles Country Club. Do you want to

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Speaker 1: I was like, how about this, I'll get the Niners

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Speaker 1: They ended up winning on a last second pick again,

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Speaker 1: crazy ass comeback by Jimmy Garoppolo Kyle Shanahan, and we

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Speaker 1: play LACC and honestly, I had never really heard about

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Speaker 1: the property. Going this place is fucking amazing. Some of

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Speaker 1: have it the Goldman Sachs rented it out this week

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Speaker 1: Hues gone now and it's sold. But just the buzz

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Speaker 1: So it's I'm very excited to watch this thing play out.

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Speaker 1: into good headspace. Sometimes when Keopka, I would say historically,

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Speaker 1: If he had been doing even just playing like he

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Speaker 1: He'd be like with bones. Did something happen Tiger Woods

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Speaker 1: beat him up?

426
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Speaker 2: No?

427
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Speaker 1: So I when I'm gonna put some cash on him,

428
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Speaker 1: for sure, it's just too good a value. Okay, soble,

429
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Speaker 1: how are the Hollywood Hills.

430
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Speaker 2: This place is unbelievable. I know you've been here before.

431
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,640
Speaker 2: I had never been here. The way it was described

432
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Speaker 2: to me before getting here was as if they took

433
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Speaker 2: Central Park in New York City and put a World

434
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Speaker 2: championship golf venue in the middle of it. And I'm like, yeah, okay, whatever.

435
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:54,880
Speaker 2: And then I got here and I'm like, yeah, that's

436
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 2: exactly what it is. I mean, we are not I

437
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 2: think people will hear, oh, they're in La so it's

438
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 2: so cal but you know, it's big place, and you know,

439
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 2: they have some places where you could see a golf course,

440
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 2: but this is in the middle of the city. I

441
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 2: mean we are like in the foothills of Beverly Hills,

442
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 2: Hollywood down the street. I mean there's stuff going on

443
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 2: when you This is not like out in the burbs somewhere.

444
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 2: We are like right in the middle of it. And

445
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 2: the golf course. Man, it is pure. You and I

446
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,679
Speaker 2: were talking before we hit the record button, but it

447
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 2: is rustic. It is fun looking. A lot of times

448
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 2: you get to a major championship and you're like, yeah,

449
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 2: it looks pristine, but it also looks a little artificial.

450
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 2: This place. It looks like It's been here since the

451
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Speaker 2: beginning of time, Like when Earth started there was a

452
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 2: golf course right on this property. It's an unbelievable piece

453
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Speaker 2: of property. And I can't wait for this thing gets started.

454
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Speaker 2: I think it's be really really fun week.

455
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Speaker 1: Tell me if you like this comp it's probably the

456
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 1: it's you know, this course is much more famous, but

457
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: it's the West Coast version, a little bit of Augusta.

458
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Speaker 1: You know, you feel honored being on the property, easier

459
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Speaker 1: to get on and play. It has the California It's

460
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Speaker 1: a little looser. Are rules on the West Coast. We're

461
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: not as We're not as tight. We don't have the

462
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: old school Southern no phones shirt Tuck's. It's a little looser,

463
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: but you feeld on the on the course and on

464
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 1: the property like, yeah, this is not everyone gets to

465
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: come here now. The difference is, you know, I think

466
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Speaker 1: it was pretty shocking. I mean, they've had NCAA events,

467
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: they've had the Walker Cup, but it's they don't have

468
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: many professional events and you're out there right now. It's

469
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Speaker 1: not exactly fan friendly like some properties in terms of

470
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Speaker 1: all the crevices of the course right.

471
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Speaker 2: Right now, it's hard to walk around here. I mean,

472
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Speaker 2: if you're an older person, you got an injury, you're

473
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Speaker 2: trying to walk around, You're not gonna have a fun

474
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Speaker 2: time trying to follow your favorite group of this golf course.

475
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Speaker 2: I don't know that. I I don't know that I'm

476
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Speaker 2: making the Augusta comparisons. Maybe just just the clubhouse and

477
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Speaker 2: like the back patio with the tables set up there

478
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Speaker 2: has a gustafs what I'm saying, it kind.

479
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: Of comes out of nowhere. You just you don't know

480
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Speaker 1: what's there. I'm not saying the course copy the hills

481
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Speaker 1: and stuff.

482
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean course cop I I still even the

483
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Speaker 2: feel of it. I'll give you West Coast shinnecock, which

484
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 2: someone else mentioned to me earlier today, and I'm like, yeah,

485
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 2: that it's definitely got a lot of shinny feel to it.

486
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 2: Just being in LA.

487
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Speaker 1: What's your vibes from walking around there, talking to players,

488
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: talking to caddies, talking to coaches. What's the feel out there?

489
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Speaker 1: It's you know, it feels like the merger is well

490
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Speaker 1: behind us and people focused on the golf at hand,

491
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Speaker 1: or is that still a topic. Merger might be strong,

492
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Speaker 1: But whatever the hell that thing was last week, whatever

493
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Speaker 1: it was no.

494
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Speaker 2: People are still definitely talking about it. It's cooled off

495
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 2: a little bit for a major championship because look, it's

496
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 2: it's a major. Guys are out here trying to win

497
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 2: a US Open that are only four of these a year,

498
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 2: and so while they'll be asked about it in the

499
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Speaker 2: I think in the pre tournament interviews the players are doing,

500
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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of talk about what's going

501
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Speaker 2: on and what the future of golf might look like.

502
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Speaker 2: But I think once we get to Thursday, it's all

503
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Speaker 2: about this golf course, and so I think players kind

504
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 2: of understand, like, hey, you can you can miss it

505
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 2: a little bit here and still be okay. A lot

506
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Speaker 2: of it's gonna come down to luck, quite frankly, and

507
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 2: with the peach. With the USGA has done this week

508
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 2: is essentially they're going to move tea box around. I

509
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 2: think social media, it's gone viral the two hundred and

510
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 2: ninety yard part three eleventh doll and everyone's like, oh

511
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 2: my god, they might play two ten one day, might

512
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: play two fifty. They're going to move around tea boxes.

513
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 2: They are going to essentially, and this is something they

514
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 2: try to do every year at the US Open. But

515
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Speaker 2: I think they're going to do an even better job

516
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Speaker 2: of it this year. They want players to to have

517
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Speaker 2: to think about exactly what they're gonna do on every

518
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: single shot. You know, Jordan Spieth and Michael Greller on

519
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 2: every single shot there, they're thinking about, like, well, you

520
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: want to do this while I'm trying to do that well,

521
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 2: and they're talking their way through a shot. That's gonna

522
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Speaker 2: be all one hundred and fifty six players this week.

523
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: Every single guy is going to be trying to figure

524
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 2: out when they get to their ball. They don't want

525
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 2: a player just grab a nine iron saying I'm just

526
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: gonna hit nine here because standard stock shot. I don't

527
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 2: think there is a standard stock shot here. You're going

528
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,479
Speaker 2: to have to work the ball because of that. The

529
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Speaker 2: players that I'm looking at are the creative players, the

530
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 2: most artistic players. I think those are the guys who

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Speaker 2: are gonna thrive this week. And we can make our

532
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 2: own lists of creative artistic players. I did on my

533
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Speaker 2: radio show yesterday on Sirius XMPGA Tour Radio. Gary Williams

534
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: was filling in, he was my co host. We had

535
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: in our top five creative players. We had four of

536
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 2: the five same names, so it's not really a mystery

537
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 2: as to who those players are. If indeed this golf

538
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 2: course plays to those most creative players.

539
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Speaker 1: So who's your pick?

540
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 2: Cam Smith? I've got instead of a one and a two,

541
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Speaker 2: I've got a one A and a one B this week.

542
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 2: Cameron Smith's my one. A. First of all, I love

543
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 2: the number. He's twenty eight to one, thirty to one

544
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: in some books. I think that other than Brooks Kopka,

545
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 2: who of course won the PGA Championship last month, most

546
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 2: of the live players there are still a little under he

547
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: valued the marketplace. Cameron Smith at twenty eight to one,

548
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: I think is a really good number. Obviously, he can

549
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 2: win a major championship. We saw it at the Open

550
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: last year. His short game's fantastic, and for my money,

551
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 2: he's the best putter in the world and probably the

552
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 2: best clutch putter, the best putter when you're playing in

553
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: a major championship. I watched him at Oakill a couple

554
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: of rounds and he was not just pouring in putts.

555
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: He was like putting it in the middle of the cup.

556
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: I mean things going in a thimble. And then one

557
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: B for me is the other most artistic, most creative

558
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: player that we have in the game right now, no

559
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 2: surprise Jordan Spieth. And we've seen Jordan trending in the

560
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: right direction for a while now. I don't think that

561
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 2: his lack of distance, even though he's really not sure,

562
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 2: he has a reputation of like, Wow, not DJ, He's

563
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: not Rory. He's a lot longer he was. He actually

564
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 2: averaged better driving distance last year than Tony Fenow. I

565
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 2: mean that's saying a lot for Jordan Speith. So the

566
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: fact that he's going to turn and you'll see it

567
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 2: this week, he's going to turn double bow. He's into

568
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: pars where you're looking at it like he can't get

569
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: out of this. That's jail right there, and all of

570
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: a sudden he'll somehow get up and down. That's what's

571
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: going to win you this golf tournament, keeping the momentum going,

572
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 2: keeping the bogies off the card. And I think those

573
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: two guys are my favorites to do that.

574
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Speaker 1: I would say the heavy favorite Scottie Scheffler, depending on

575
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: where you look, you can find him, Like you know

576
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: six seven to one is a very artistic player. When

577
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: he went, you know, toe to toe with Cam two

578
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: years ago and won the Masters and chipped it in.

579
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: Was that whole three. But his putting has been atrocious

580
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: because he's been the best teed Green player, and really

581
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: a short game is it might not be Cam Smith

582
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: Jordan's speed in their peak, but it's it's light years

583
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: better than most guys on tour out there is the

584
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: question mark just his putting. I'm sure he's not that

585
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: he has played here before. I think you wrote that

586
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: or some of the tweet Walker Cup. Yeah, yeah, so

587
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: he's seen these greens. Clearly, it's a lot different for

588
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: a US Open. How nervous I mean, at that number

589
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: seems pretty crazy, but he's in every fucking tournament he

590
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: plays in.

591
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: Look, I've gotten number three on my list and I

592
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: feel like I'm being too negative about Scotty Scheffler. That's

593
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: how good he is te de Green right now. But yeah,

594
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: the putter scares me. Look, if you're gonna win a

595
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: US Open at some point, you've got a whole a

596
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: bunch of eight, ten twelve foot putts, and I'm just

597
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: not very confident that Scottie Scheffler is confident in himself

598
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: to go do that. So I just don't know that

599
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: Scotty Scheffler can get that done on the Greens, but yeah,

600
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: te de Green, he's better than anybody right now. That

601
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: performance of the memorial Tea to Green was unbelievable. Same

602
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 2: thing really at Colonial the week before, so hitting it

603
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: really well right now. I just if I'm spending my

604
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 2: money this week on the board, I'm not taking a

605
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: guy who's seven to one that's having trouble with the

606
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: flatstick right now and at this kind of event.

607
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: To me, you look Kepka, you know, ten eleven to one.

608
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: If he was on the PGA tour and just playing

609
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: with these other guys, it feels like he would be

610
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: a to one. You know, you get a couple, you know,

611
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: like you said, a lot of these live guys gets dinged.

612
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: But the difference is this guy has proven this year.

613
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he had a disaster at the Masters and

614
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: in the last group disaster for him. He said today that,

615
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: you know, and I don't think it's hyperbole. I do

616
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: think he believes it. And how could he not that

617
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: he thinks ten majors for himself is in play, you know,

618
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: at thirty three years old, seems extreme, But unlike the

619
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: guys you listed Cam Speeth and even Scotty. He's more

620
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: boring as a player the way he wins. It's not

621
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: as crazy because he's not screwing up and having to

622
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: make miraculous shots. But I have a hard time. I'm

623
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: not going to bet him, but if you tell me like,

624
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: I expect him to be in the mix, so maybe

625
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: I should. I haven't decided yet. I'm out up for sure,

626
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: but being out there, do you think he's vaulted himself

627
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: back into the previous seventeen eighteen The guy that we

628
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: talked about in nineteen and twenty is like every major

629
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: the way people talk about.

630
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: So few things here. First of all, Golf Channel did

631
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: a segment I believe it was last night where they

632
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: talked about the big three, which was Scottie Scheffler, John Rahm,

633
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: and not Rory McElroy but instead Brooks Kepka, whom he's

634
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: playing with for the first two rounds. I thought that

635
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: was very very interesting, very telling for this week. Secondly, look,

636
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: we can sit here for a week before every major

637
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: championship go well, it should play to these kind of players,

638
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: and you know the metric I'm looking at is this one,

639
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: And you know, who's a pretty good long shot. It's

640
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: this guy. And honestly, we could do these pods in

641
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: ten seconds and the entire analysis might be, well, Kepka's

642
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: playing and he's ridiculous at major championships, so he's gonna win. Boom,

643
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: end of story game. Oh that might be all the

644
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: analysis we need. It's like, take all the money that

645
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: you're putting on a couple of other outrights and a

646
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: couple of long shots, and some prop plays and a

647
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: first round leader and everything you do, and just take

648
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: it all and put it on Keopka, and Kepka might

649
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 2: win and you have a good chance instead of getting

650
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: eleven times their money back on that bet. So I again,

651
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: I certainly I don't want to fade them. It's a

652
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: tough number to play, you know, especially not having seen

653
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: him play this golf course before. But would it surprise

654
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 2: me if Brooks Koepkaz the winner comes Sunday, not even

655
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: in the least.

656
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: One long shot, you know, just seeing a guy close

657
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: to ninety to one. Now he's never won a tournament

658
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: on the pg dour But is tagala short game? I

659
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: saw you Patrick Reid, which actually has a much longer

660
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: resume of winning big. But both those guys in eighty

661
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: to ninety that are really good around the green Tagala

662
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: is a southern California guy. You know, those two names

663
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: long shot and anyone else kind of even to me,

664
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: a long shot in a major can start around fifty

665
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: to one.

666
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: So when it comes to long shots, if we're talking outrights,

667
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: what I always like to point out is that there

668
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: are long shots who can think could be a nice

669
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 2: top ten and top twenty play and a nice plus

670
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: money number. When it comes to a long shot outright,

671
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: I want someone with win equity. Remember, if you come

672
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: in second or you come in one hundred and fifty six,

673
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 2: your outright ticket is not going to cash. And so

674
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: I want someone with a high ceiling. Yeah, exactly, I'm

675
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: with you, dude. Hey, look I've only bet Grillo, Hoveland

676
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: and Taylor in the last three weeks. I'm doing just fine.

677
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: Don't worry about it. But that said, some of the

678
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: guys with bigger numbers next to their names that had

679
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: that win equity that we've seen them do it before.

680
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: Patrick Reid at eighty to one, I think is a

681
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: great number out there. He has a certain you know,

682
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 2: he is a great player around the greens, and I

683
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: think that's what's gonna take this week. Now. I look

684
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: at Seawoo, Kim Sea Wu was a guy that like

685
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: he'd show up every once in a while win, and

686
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: then we wouldn't see him for a year or two.

687
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: And when we wouldn't se him, he played really badly.

688
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: The floor was bottomless all of a sudden. Sea Wou

689
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: eighteen of twenty one, made cuts this year top seven,

690
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: and three of his last six he's won in California.

691
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: He's played well on link seats style of golf courses,

692
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: fast firm golf course. I think Seawoo's a really interesting player.

693
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: Further down the board.

694
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, when was I betting on a memorial? Was that

695
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: when he was in the mix? I googled. I think

696
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: he's made close to five million dollars this year. Like Sea,

697
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: Who's Sea's Sea? Who's playing well? Yeah, you know we're

698
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: talking a lot of outrights. Some names I got for

699
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: top ten. I mean two Euros that have just played

700
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: really well, they played well lately. Hadden in Fleetwood, I

701
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: mean Fleetwood has success in majors. Hadden feels like he's trending.

702
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: Ricky Fowlers and other guy who's having a really good season.

703
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: Any guys that you like in that top ten range.

704
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I really like Fleetwood. Again, I can't bet

705
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: him at the outright number. He's over one hundred and

706
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 2: nineteen now on the PGA Tour after the playoff loss

707
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 2: last week. But he's obviously a really good player. He's

708
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 2: a shorter number than Justin Thomas in most books right now.

709
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 2: I can't bring myself to do that. Justin Thomas, I

710
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 2: think when he's playing well, and he hasn't played well

711
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: this year. When he's playing well, he's a top five

712
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: player in the world, maybe a top three player in

713
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: the world. I can't bring myself in good conscience to

714
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: play Tommy Fleetwood at a shorter number than Justin Thomas.

715
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: That's said Hatton. Look, I was on Hatton last week.

716
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 2: He's been playing lights out for about really four or

717
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: five months now. That said, I look at Hatton and

718
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: I go, he's obviously guy that you know, what makes

719
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: him entertaining is also what makes him a guy that

720
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: I sometimes don't like to back just because he's combustible.

721
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: I mean, look, this is a golf course that's going

722
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: to get you frustrated. Do you want to bet Tyroll

723
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: Hotton on a golf course where it might take one

724
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: bad balance on the second hole and you know, he

725
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: goes into a bad spot and makes bogey and all

726
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 2: of a sudden, it's like the world is ending on

727
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 2: it for Hatton. So as much as I like his game,

728
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 2: I just don't know that I want to back him

729
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: at a US Open. Love Ricky Fowler this week. I

730
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 2: probably have him too low in my ranking, but I

731
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: do think he can post top ten. Nothing to end

732
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 2: that I have in top ten. Ryan Fox on a

733
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: Lynxy Gull, of course, hits a long way watch out

734
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: for that name. I you know, I'm just kind of

735
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: it's like the one guy that you know, the name

736
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: kind of just jumped off the page for me. He's

737
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: got nine top thirties in his last ten starts. So

738
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: even if you don't like the top ten play, I

739
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: think you get him top thirty at a plus money number.

740
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 2: He's a really good player. He's playing really well right

741
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: now and this should be his style of golf.

742
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of you know they teach you a number

743
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: one thing in finance, bi lo cell high. If I

744
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: would have told you before this year for the last

745
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: five years, you get Justin Thomas around forty to one

746
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: in a major and just be an auto bet. I mean,

747
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: is it you're out there? Is it injury? Because you

748
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: would say in theory, this would be a course, good

749
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: short game, good around the green. He's a pretty you know,

750
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: he just got a lot of different shots in the bag.

751
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: But clearly he's had a terrible season for his standards.

752
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: He feels off. I don't know, but you could argue

753
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: just that number alone. If he does catch lightning in

754
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: a bottle. You talked about Patrick Reid win equity, won

755
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: a lot of big tournaments. If he is in the mix,

756
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: he's not afraid of the moment, that might just be

757
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: an auto bed, just based on the value. Again, if

758
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: he's injured, then it's a stay away. But something's up.

759
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure. I haven't heard about an injury.

760
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 2: But if you get him at forty five fifty to one, yeah,

761
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: it's probably an auto play. Quite frankly, it's just a

762
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: big enough number that you look at and you go,

763
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 2: how bad would I feel if Justin Thomas goes out

764
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: and wins this golf tournament? And I was sitting there

765
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 2: thinking about him at fifty to one and said, no, thanks,

766
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pass because he's not playing well. You're gonna

767
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 2: be kicking yourself come Sunday evening if it does cash.

768
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 2: So you know I wouldn't I wouldn't empty the mortgage

769
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 2: out on that one. But I do think that JT

770
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: is a decent play. Tony Fenow is a guy that

771
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 2: six months ago, if you had asked me about the

772
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: US Open, I just thought he fit the profile. Look

773
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: at the guys that have won the US Open over

774
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 2: the last six, seven eight years. It's been Koepka, dj

775
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: De'shambeau Woodland, John Rabb last year. Fits looks like he's

776
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: twelve years old, but he's gained a lot of distance,

777
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 2: he's hitting it far, he's got swing speed. Those are

778
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: the types of players that win US Opens. Now, this

779
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 2: is a different US Open setup. I don't think it's

780
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: gonna take a guy. It doesn't mean those guys can't win,

781
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: but I don't think it has to be a guy

782
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: like that. If it was, though, Tony Finaw was going

783
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: to be my guy. If we were going back to

784
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: a a Beth Page type setup, I thought Tony Fenow

785
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: would have been the guy. I just don't see him

786
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: on this setup. But I still like him a lot

787
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 2: and he's still pretty big number thirty five, forty to one.

788
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: Okay, you know, a week ago we were reacting to

789
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: the breaking news, which we weren't even sure what it was,

790
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: but it was two guys on CNBC that happened to

791
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: be Jay Monahan and the dude that runs Live Slash

792
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: the Piff talking a week later, now being out there

793
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: for a couple of days, textan all week long last week,

794
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: what is what's the vibe? Like? Do people feel like

795
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: they know anymore? Or is it still a lot of

796
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: the players that came out of that meeting going Jayden

797
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: really have that many answers.

798
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: Still way more questions than answers. And I think, you know,

799
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 2: I've had players from both sides, both PG tour and

800
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 2: Live who are asking me what I know and what

801
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: I think, and I'm like, I don't know. I was

802
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 2: gonna ask you the same thing. I don't think anyone

803
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: knows right now. I mean, even the mixed signals we're

804
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 2: getting from the people who made the deal. J Monahan

805
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: has repeatedly said over the last week, Hey, I don't

806
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: know why we're calling this a merger. It's not a merger.

807
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 2: And it was pointed out well, the press release that

808
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: you sent out said PG Sewer, DP World Tour and

809
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 2: Public Investment Fund have merged commercial operations. I don't know,

810
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: are bad. Sounded like a merger to me. So I

811
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 2: still think there's a lot to be answered. I still

812
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 2: think there's a lot to be figured out. But I

813
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: guess is if Jay Monahan was sitting right here next

814
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 2: to me and I was asking him some of these questions,

815
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 2: I don't think he has the answers yet. I don't

816
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 2: think anybody has a lot of the answers yet. As

817
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 2: far as some of the things that could stop this. Look,

818
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 2: you know me, I watch other people play Golfer a living,

819
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 2: because that's like to do. I mean, we get into

820
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: anti trust lawsuits and and you know, a Department of

821
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 2: Justice and subpoenas and Senate hearings and I don't know.

822
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 2: I literally had dinner with a buddy of mine the

823
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 2: other night who's an attorney, and I go, so, what's

824
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: an anti trust lawsuit? He's like, all right, let me

825
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: break it down for you. And so we started explaining

826
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 2: some things. I'm very quickly starting to you know, get

827
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 2: my bearings here and understand what a lot of what

828
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: this is about. But all that said, we are nowhere

829
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 2: close to finding a conclusion to what all this means.

830
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I've been asked many times over the past week,

831
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 2: so is Live done? Like they're done next year? It's like,

832
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, who do you talk to?

833
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: You know?

834
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: Dustin Johnson had a comment today saying, yeah, no, everyone

835
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: I have talked to it Live. They're going forward, They're

836
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 2: starting to put together the twenty twenty four schedule. That

837
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: none of that would surprise me that, you know, the

838
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 2: folks that are running Live are putting together a schedule

839
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 2: for next year, and the folks that own Live are

840
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 2: looking into pushing everything together and not having a league

841
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: next year. That and the two may not have spoken,

842
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: even though they in theory work together, So they don't know,

843
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: The players don't know, and I certainly can only speculate.

844
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 2: I don't have any answers about a whole lot of

845
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: this right now.

846
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: Well, if you're speculating, I mean, I think it's fair

847
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: to say that most of us assume, even a week later,

848
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: with the lack of information, it's like it doesn't make

849
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: that much sense to keep live around somehow integrate the two.

850
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: But then there have also been rumors like, you know,

851
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour is going to have either a fine

852
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: system or way to make these guys their way back. Well,

853
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: it's like, you guys just went into the business with

854
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: the people they're in business with. How can you possibly

855
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: do this the complications of this. Clearly they had to

856
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: break the news right because they were worried about getting out.

857
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: Is that fair to say? Is that what you've heard?

858
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's totally fair. I also think that

859
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: the litigation you and I have talked about this, the

860
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: pending litigation which was going to go into a discovery phase,

861
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 2: when the PJ Tour said yeah, there's some stuff that

862
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 2: we don't really want to get out, and then Public

863
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 2: Investment Fund sauny Arabia says, you know what, actually we

864
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 2: have a skeleton or two in the closet as well.

865
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 2: We might not want that going public either. Who knows

866
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 2: what that could be. But they said, you know, let's

867
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: start talking and start putting something together. And yes, that's

868
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: why this was announced before it started going public, before

869
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 2: there were any rumors and speculation about it. But unlike

870
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: most deals where they a deal is made, a press

871
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: release is sent out, and here's to the t everything

872
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 2: that we know. This was like, send it out and

873
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: we'll figure out everything later. And now they're trying to

874
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: figure everything out sort of in real.

875
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: Time as we sit here from what you know, talking

876
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: to players, talking to agents, talking to whoever. Jmonhand's status

877
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: in the player circle, is it fair to say that

878
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: it's not a lot of people I'm talking about the

879
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: PGA the players. M.

880
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's that's very fair to say. As for

881
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: his job, and you know, I've asked a lot over

882
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: the last week. Is Jay going to keep his his role?

883
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 2: And well, the players can't really vote him out first

884
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 2: of all. Secondly, Jay was already named by the board

885
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 2: of the to be determined named company that is going

886
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 2: to have the PGA Tour, DP World and Public Investment

887
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: Fund under their umbrella. He's already been named by the

888
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: board as the CEO. So even if he's not quote

889
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 2: unquote PGA Tour Commissioner, he is going to have a

890
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: hand in this. Oh. By the way, if you want

891
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: to know how you become named by the board, well

892
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: you start the board and then you start the board

893
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: with people who want you to do this job, and

894
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: then those people vote for you, and that's how you

895
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: get this job. A lot of weird stuff. I'm learning

896
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: a whole lot about business and about money. But in

897
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: case you were wondering, John, money makes the world go round,

898
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: and so this is all about the Benjamins and pg Tour.

899
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 2: They were hurting. I don't know if they were quite hemorrhaging,

900
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: as I've heard from some people, but they were hurting.

901
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 2: They were putting up a lot of this money for

902
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 2: the designated events. This is not coming out of the

903
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: sponsor's pockets. They couldn't ask for that, so they were

904
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 2: taking it out of the reserves, putting it up for

905
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: these events, and then you don't have anything coming back in,

906
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: Like how are you going to replace that money? So

907
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: they were hurting. If this is a chance to double, triple,

908
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 2: quadruple the PGA tours valuation. Look, there have been a

909
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 2: lot of instances in the past where a business says,

910
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: that's our rival, we'll never go into business with them,

911
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden they go, well, unless

912
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: we can all make a whole lot of money, that

913
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: would be cool. And so money talks. That's talking once

914
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: again right here.

915
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: For sure, Well, camp Smith, you just be the hottest

916
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: gambler in the history of gambling if he wins it.

917
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: But I'm going to have a couple of shackles on

918
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: camp Smith for sure. You and I have been talking

919
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: about him, I think since the last major when he showed.

920
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: It's like, Dad, this is gonna be a good fit,

921
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 1: and so will the Open. I mean, he's he's he's

922
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: going to be a factor.

923
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 2: It's why he was a big loss.

924
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: When when they signed him. Enjoy the week. Are you

925
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: out there all week interviewing people for serious all week?

926
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I'm doing. I've got let's see this afternoon,

927
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be talking to Scheffler, Can't Land, Homer, three

928
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 2: guys that we could very well see in the mix

929
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 2: come Sunday afternoon. And then yeah, I'll be hanging out

930
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 2: with what they call the flash area, the interview area,

931
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: interviewing players as they finish Thursday through Sunday, doing all

932
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: the interviews for the US Open radio broadcast.

933
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: Well, enjoy it. We will listen to you on Sirius

934
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 1: when we're in the car driving to pick up our lunch.

935
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: To not miss much of the golf tournament. So we

936
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Have a good time, and tell Leo, tell Spielberg,

937
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 1: you know, tell j Low and a flack.

938
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: We all say hello, Lionel. Ritchie's house is like right

939
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 2: over here. It's not how big that thing, by the way,

940
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 2: not small? I mean I think it's I don't something.

941
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: It's it's a ridiculous number of square feet. It was

942
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 2: like seventy thousand square feet like something like the dumbest

943
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 2: number I've ever heard square feet like, and he's not

944
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: there this week, he's like on tour. It's like the

945
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 2: biggest thing that's ever happened in his backyard. Can you

946
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: imagine this is in your backyard? You're like, I go

947
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: over and do the thing in England?

948
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: Sorry, what when I played there and pointed it out,

949
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: or maybe it was at the end of the round

950
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: we were having beers with the member. He thought he

951
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: gets seventy five eighty million dollars And this is two

952
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: years two and a half years ago the price.

953
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: Of the house.

954
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: So you know, Lionel probably got in early, you know,

955
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: maybe a ten to fifteen million dollar purchase. People called

956
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: him crazy. I would say it's a pretty good investment whatever,

957
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: whatever he purchased that bad boy for dancing on the ceiling,

958
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: I mean, put out, put out an album like that,

959
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you know here, you're living in,

960
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: living like a king baby. Okay, see us, sylv Thanks Buddy,

961
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: the volume