1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back to The Clay Travis and 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. I'm Buck Sexton, I mean man, Clay 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: Travis right here with me. We are breaking it all down, 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: explaining the world, what's going on in the country, what's 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: going on here in Nashville. Even thrown in some barbecue 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: chat and people are calling in they want to fire up, Clay, 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: they want to throw down. We got Carolinians who are saying, 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: how you talk Texas barbecue on this show. Look, you 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: you come from the sports world, Clay. You know, I 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,959 Speaker 1: just I just love I love all the barbecues out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 12 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: the battle over barbecue would be intense. And that's one 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: of the fun things about the sports world in general 14 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: is everybody is so passionate about their particular tribe, their 15 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: regional team that they root for, and barbecue is the 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: same way. Whatever part of the country you're in. If 17 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: you're listening to us right now in Kansas City, you're like, 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: we're the barbecue experts. Memphis feels like they are, Nashville 19 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: feels like they got a little claim all over North Carolina. 20 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: They feel like that. And I'm and Avid Texas. Obviously, 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: there's there's all these different pockets that feel like they 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: are the barbecue capital of the mayor. And these these 23 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: regional rivalries are fun. Obviously, I'm a New Yorker. So 24 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: the New York and New Jersey jokes back and forth, 25 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: by the way, like like brothers that are constantly putting 26 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: each other in headlocks. That's how New York and New 27 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: Jersey are about all this stuff. They see some of 28 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: that with the barbecue across the South and then out 29 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: into Texas. But we got a couple of breaking stories. 30 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: I just want to put on your radar right now. 31 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: I want to put it on your radar because we're 32 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: gonna come back to it. One is there there is 33 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: an infrastructure agreement, all right, Joe Biden's already endorsed it. 34 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: You've got ten senators just a bipartisan agreement here, so 35 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: we'll see if this actually all gets done. But under 36 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: the framework, according to political here, the bipartisan package, led 37 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: by Senators Cinema Democrat Arizona of course and Portman, Republican 38 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: of Ohio, would include more than five hundred and fifty 39 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: billion dollars in new spending on roads, bridges, and other 40 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: traditional infrastructure. I'm also gonna want to see what else 41 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: they plan on spending on. And then there's just another 42 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: story about an apartment building in South Beach in Miami 43 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: that collapse. We do not have much in the way 44 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: of details. We know are there are dozens of people 45 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: that are unaccounted for right now. Thoughts and prayers go 46 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: out to all the folks down there in Miami and 47 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: in Florida and Clay I know I said this in 48 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: the break My brothers, my two brothers both moved to Florida, 49 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: actually both moved to Miami and they were not far 50 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: away from this, so we were Obviously it gets on 51 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: everyon's radar. Are very concerning with something like this. No 52 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: one knows, no one's any idea what happened. We saw 53 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: the photos and it's not it is and the video 54 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: of the building. Again, there are I think reports of 55 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: over fifty people that are missing and it looks atrocious. 56 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: So what caused it, What the total damage is going 57 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: to be in terms of lives lost, We don't know, 58 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: But we just want to make sure you guys are 59 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: aware that that story is out there and if any 60 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: details continue to emerge throughout the course of this program. 61 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 1: We will certainly keep you updated on that. And there's 62 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: another story where we have some breaking news for you here, 63 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: and it has to do with well, someone who's been 64 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: known as America's mayor, someone who I know personally and 65 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: have known of since I was a little kid, and 66 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: am friendly as well with his son who is running 67 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: for governor in the state of New York. Rudy Giuliani. Folks, 68 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: you know he was the president when it was President Trump, 69 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: the former president's lawyer, especially on issues relating to the 70 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: ridiculous Russia collusion probe and then the election disputes. He 71 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: has had his legal license suspended by a New York court. Now, 72 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: the reason for the suspension is why I think this 73 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: should be on everyone's radar, why this is an important story. 74 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani has had an appeals court in New York 75 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: suspend his law license because the court claims that he 76 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: made false statements to try to get courts to overturn 77 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's loss in the presidential race. Now, now I 78 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: want to I want to get the Clay's perspective as 79 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: a practicing or as a lawyer, A licensed lawyer and 80 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,799 Speaker 1: someone who has practiced law on this in a moment. 81 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: But I also just want to put out there as 82 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: a preface to all this, the entire meeting, the Democrat 83 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: Party lied for four years about the President working with 84 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: Russia to steal the twenty sixteen election with no consequence. Really, 85 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: I mean, no one went to prison. The only people 86 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: went to prison were those caught up in the process 87 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: crimes of the deep state, people like Roger Stone, with 88 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: dozens of armed FBI official showing up or I don't 89 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: know if it was local police along with them to 90 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: arrest him. CNN got tipped off, of course, pretended they 91 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: didn't and there was no problem with the rush, a collusion, 92 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: lies and people losing law licenses, people facing consequences. To me, Clay, 93 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: it looks like this shows once again the bare knuckled 94 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: use of power that Democrats will engage in when they 95 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: can just send a message to everybody. You represent the 96 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: wrong client, you say the wrong things, We'll pull your license. 97 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: So this is, as I like to say sometimes when 98 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: we talk about legal issues on the show, this is 99 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: me putting my lawyer had on This is terrifying. The 100 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: reports are and I think we have. Andrew Giuliani will 101 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: play audio for you here in a little bit explaining 102 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: I haven't read. Let me just be clear, I haven't 103 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: read the decision that led to his law license being suspended, 104 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: but I understand the motivation behind it. And this is 105 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: me speaking as a warrior. I have represented people accused 106 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: and convicted of murder. I have represented people accused and 107 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: convicted of domestic assault. I have represented people used and 108 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: convicted of the most heinous crimes that you can describe 109 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: in our country. And that's my job. That's what a 110 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: warrior does. Warriors are advocates, not just for people who 111 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: are always on the right side of the law. And 112 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: so the idea that you would decide, first of all, 113 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: that Rudy Giuliani's opinions and also lead representation of the 114 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: then president of the United States is unacceptable is downright terrifying, 115 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: because the end result of this is you are saying, effectively, 116 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: some people who are making legal arguments don't deserve the 117 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: right to have an attorney. And you are also saying 118 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: that the attorney is responsible for the arguments he is 119 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: sometimes making on behalf of his or her client. This 120 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: is a big leap Buck, and this is political motivated. 121 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt out. But it's also 122 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: scary because the essence of being a lawyer is sometimes 123 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: being willing to defend to the utmost of your ability 124 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: people who you may or may not agree with. This 125 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: is what the Aco you Buck used to stand for. 126 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: We're going to defend the rights of Nazis to march 127 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: in Skokie, Illinois. Think about historically, even before we were 128 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: a country, John Adams defended the British soldiers at the 129 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: Boston massacre. He defended the people that we were going 130 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: to go to war with. Because defending people who may 131 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: have done heinous acts you might disagree with to the 132 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: utmost of your ability is what many of us as 133 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: lawyers signed up for. So this is, I believe, a 134 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: terrifying extension of what we have already seen from big 135 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: tech deciding to shut down Trump's Facebook page, his Twitter page, 136 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: all of these different apparatus by which he can reach 137 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: his audience. And now you're saying, advocates for the president 138 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: of the United States are not allowed to make arguments 139 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: because we don't like those arguments, and we're going to 140 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: strip your ability to be a lawyer because of it. 141 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,679 Speaker 1: It's flat out wrong. Just dude, go on the record. 142 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: I know Andrew Giuliani and he's a friend, and he 143 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: says a son of Rudy Giuliani wh's running. He's running 144 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: for governor. Andrew is in New York State as a Republican. 145 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: He spoke earlier today about this, and we wanted to 146 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: hear what his defense is for his dad under the situation. Clifford, recently, 147 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: a few minutes ago, my father's law license was suspended 148 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: by the New York State First Appellate Division of the 149 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. Now, the five judges that ruled on it, 150 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:59,479 Speaker 1: Judge Rolando Acosta, Judge Diane Renwick, Judge Sally Manzurt Daniels, 151 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: Judge Judith Gishy, and Judge Barbara Kaepernick. All five of 152 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: them are Democrats, three of which were appointed by Andrew Cuomo. 153 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: Five to nothing, ultimately Democrats with zero Republicans on there. Again, 154 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: this is just unbelievable to see just how politicize all 155 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: of this has become. I am infuriated by all of 156 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: this and any American that believes in an independent justice system. 157 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: This is going after one of President Trump's closest allies. 158 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: That's exactly what this is. And any American that doesn't 159 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: believe that they are just biased, this is unacceptable and 160 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: I stand by my father. He did everything ultimately by 161 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: the book, and the fact that there would be this 162 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: politicization in our justice department is discussing. It is a 163 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: cancer that needs to be cut out, and it needs 164 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: to be cut out right now. The politicization of courts 165 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: of prosecutors is one of the most terrifying things that 166 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: can happen in a free society. No one can ruin 167 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: your life faster in America than a power mad prosecutor 168 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: or a judge who decides to make an example of 169 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: you for political reasons. There's very little recourse against this, 170 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: especially on the prosecutorial side. The weaponization of deep state 171 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: elements within our government is something that should send a 172 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: chill down every American's spine. The usage of these apparatuses 173 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: of censorship and just politically punitive measures is something that 174 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: should concern everyone, and Clay I believe this is also 175 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: something you have to put in the context of sending 176 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: a message to everybody. You rightly point out that the 177 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: social media companies, remember they also shut down the lab 178 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: leak theory from Wuhan couldn't say that I got dinged 179 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: for that. I got dinged for a whole bunch of 180 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: things about COVID, all of which I was right, and 181 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: Facebook and Google and the rest were wrong. They've also 182 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: taken this position on elections. This is a new thing 183 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: in America where you have these mechanisms of politically motivated 184 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: censorship and payback in this way, operating so brazenly that 185 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: they would go after Rudy Giuliani for as as you 186 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: point out, making essentially making a case on behalf of 187 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: a client. And this sends a message to everybody. This 188 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: sends a message to you that if you stand with Maga, 189 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: if you stand with Trump, we'll get you later. We'll 190 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: come and burn down your village, even after everyone else 191 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: has passed through. It's a terrifying and chilling decision that 192 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: they have made that what you advocate represents your ability 193 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: to advocate going forward on a variety of different levels. 194 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: This isn't about the legal system. This is about trying 195 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: to shut up Andrew Giuliani and Rudy Giuliani, Andrew Gilianti's 196 00:11:55,400 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: dad who's now running for the governor. I just This 197 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 1: is going to be, I think, a major story going forward, 198 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: and I don't know how it can be justified based 199 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: on all of the evidence of Rudy Giuliani's representation that 200 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: I have seen so far. And again, the end result 201 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: here is there are certain people or certain legal arguments 202 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: that would not be allowed to be made if this 203 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: is the precedent that the State of New York is 204 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: going to apply for lawyers. I also note that this 205 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: isn't the first time we've seen something highly irregular when 206 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: it comes to going after someone in Trump's circle. Cyrus Vance, 207 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: who's a district attorney in New York, capes on pushing 208 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: and pushing this investigation of the Trump organization. And remember 209 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: they seize Michael Cohen's they went into a Trump lawyers 210 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: records and they seize stuff. There's no prosecution that resulted 211 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: from all this. These are police state tactics that are 212 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: still being used against Trump people and those in his orbit. Yeah, 213 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: there's no doubt, Buck, and we will continue to discuss 214 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: this and give you updates on that latest infrastructure build 215 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: going forward. 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Welcome back, Ed Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. 247 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: We are discussing Rudy Giuliani having his law license suspended. 248 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: Five Democratic appointed judges have all simultaneously agreed that because 249 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani, they say, advocated arguments they do not approve 250 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: of as it pertains to the twenty twenty election, that 251 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: he should have his law license suspended. We are going 252 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: to phone calls here and we got several different people 253 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: who want to weigh in. And Mark in Kansas has 254 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: got a question here about the Rudy Giuliani issue. I 255 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: put my lawyer hat on, as I say sometimes when 256 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: we discussed legal related issues. Mark and Kansas, what you 257 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: got for me? Yeah? Hi, guys, how are you doing? Excellent, 258 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: appreciate you listening. Listen. My question is is there a 259 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: disciplinary arm of the judiciary branch of our government? In 260 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: other words, you know Article three, Section one says that 261 00:15:53,520 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: judges shall hold their offices during good behavior. When when 262 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: a judge misbehaves, what happens to judges the process? Yeah, 263 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: it's good. It's a good question. Every state has a 264 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: different ethical board and a different ramification impeachment process and 265 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: all these different things for judges who have run a 266 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: foul of the law. It's important to note, and again 267 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm not an expert on what is entailed in suspended 268 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: law licenses in New York, but this is a lower 269 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: level judicial decision, and I would imagine that Rudy Giuliani 270 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: would have the ability to appeal the suspension of his 271 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: law license, and also all of the details surrounding that suspension, 272 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: How long is it, what will be what will be 273 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: the impact going forward, remain to be determined. It's a 274 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: smart question. Effectively, what Mark and Kansas is asking is 275 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: who judges the judges, And obviously appellate courts are a 276 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: big part of judging judges in a normal context, but 277 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: in general, every different state has its own body that 278 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: reviews judicial ethics and judicial complaints, and at the federal 279 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: level it's it's the House of Representatives. If you go back, 280 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: you can see stretching back for a couple of hundred years, 281 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: there have been a number of district court judges who 282 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: were removed, usually for the number one reason is bribery. 283 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: If you go back historically, you know, guys taking a 284 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: little on the side. Judges don't make that much money. 285 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: But the House of Representatives can impeach and has impeached 286 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: judges in the past. Mark, thanks so much. I'm excited 287 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: about this one because this is my first fellow Buck 288 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: to call us here on the show. We got Buck 289 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: in Chattanooga, Tennessee. You're speaking of Buck and of course Clay. 290 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: What's up? Hey? This is great To be honest, I 291 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: love the show. I have to listen to our Heart 292 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: radio because we don't have an affiliate here. We do 293 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: have the world's fastest Internet. But don't tell anybody you know, 294 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: like Brosch would do. But keep talking up Middle Tennessee. 295 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: I want everyone to move to Nashville and moved to 296 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: Middle Tennessee. It just don't come to Chattanooga. Because you know, 297 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: we want to keep it the same. Right here, we're 298 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: just a traffic jam on the weekends trying for people 299 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: trying to get to Atlanta or National or Nxville. I 300 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: appreciate that call, Buck, I actually know the that is 301 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: Na Tue. Chattooga is an awesome town. My mom is 302 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: from Chattanooga, Tennessee. I spent a ton of time Buck 303 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: the Buck in the studio here, also the Buck in Chattanooga, 304 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: spending growing up down in Chattanooga. Great little town, and 305 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: we will hopefully not be driving too many people to 306 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: move to that city because they are a lot of 307 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: places in Tennessee right now, Buck nervous about all the 308 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: new people who are coming in. Do you want to 309 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: get into the throwdown on cr key soon between MSNBC 310 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: and mister Chris Roots do it? Let's do it. I 311 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: think we should come back and jump into it because 312 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: it was quite a throwdown. Plus we might revisit some 313 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: of Biden statements from yesterday on guns and a whole 314 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: lot more. Clanbuck dot com is the website. 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Or call eight hundred seven nine two 351 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: thirty two sixty nine for these great radio specials. What 352 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: you got for me? Oh my gosh. I mentioned this 353 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: earlier on Jen Saki Saki Bomb the White House Press Secretary. 354 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: She and and uh Doucy over at Fox News. He's 355 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: got a great gig, by the way, because he gets 356 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: to be the guy. There's a there's a few people 357 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: who ask real questions. He gets to be one of 358 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: the only guys or gals in the West Wingham House 359 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: not state sponsored media, not state sponsored media. See, he's 360 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: got a great gig and he's very I like the 361 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: way he does it too, because he's very he's very calm, 362 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: he's very chill. There's no man explaining that anyone can 363 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: accuse him off. He's just he's just asking real questions. 364 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: And and here's a moment where you get Jen Saki, 365 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 1: as we've been talking about, they're trying to come up 366 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 1: with the Democrats want some way to explain defund the 367 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: police as either not their problem or not the big 368 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: problem here is Saki and Doucey guys like on the beat. 369 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: But there are reports to big cities are having very 370 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: difficult time recruiting officers right now, and there are many 371 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: other reports that is all time low and police department. 372 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: So why is the president thing there's low morale with 373 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: police officers. I don't think we're the right entity to 374 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: give an assessment of that. I'd certainly look to the 375 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: police departments to give that assessment. You know, the police 376 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 1: departments are all very clear on this assessment. And Saki 377 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: actually went on to even say that it's Republicans play 378 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: who are defunding the police by voting against the American 379 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: Jobs Plan. I mean that is dishonest jiu jitsu of 380 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: the kind that is truly mind blowing. And we've talked 381 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: about this a lot. It's not only, by the way, 382 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: the fact that it's hard to hire new police because 383 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: of the environment that's been created by defund the police. 384 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: Buck you talked about this yesterday. Resignations, the number of 385 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: people who were taking early retirement. We're not only dealing 386 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: with a crisis in terms of hiring new cops. Cops 387 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: who have been on the beat for a long time, 388 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: are very well experienced are leaving, which the day then 389 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: becomes you're going to get an even more inexperienced police 390 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: force at the time when they are the least respected 391 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: that they have ever been. Let's actually take some calls 392 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: on this issue. We've got people lighting up the lines 393 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: here and also on the deep state attack on I 394 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: guess it's not even really it's just the state. I 395 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: should even change this because the deep state is now 396 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: in charge with the Biden administrations calling the shot. So 397 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: those who felt like they were the hashtag resistance when 398 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: Trump was president now they're just getting senior appointee rolls, 399 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: and they're actually using the mechanism of the state to 400 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: suppress people. But Matt in Mississippi's got some thoughts on 401 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: the attack on Rudy Giuliani. Hey, good afternoon, gentlemen. How 402 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: are you today. We're good, Matt, thanks so much, well, great, Greg. Right, Listen, 403 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: the concern I have is that this is a shot 404 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: across the bow for every conservative attorney out there who 405 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: would dare to stand up for what is right. The 406 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: problem is is that right now you've got and that 407 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: not so much in Mississippi, and not some Tennessee where 408 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: I've also practiced, but in various locations across the country, 409 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: you've got so much of a liberal onslaught in the 410 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: courts and in the bar associations that if you stand 411 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: up for what is right, you're going to face the 412 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: possible loss of your law license. This isn't about Rudy 413 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 1: Giuliani anymore. It's about every lawyer who wants to do 414 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: what's right, and that I concern everybody. Yeah, I agree 415 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: with you, Matt, You're also a lawyer. It sounds like 416 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: in Mississippi, this to me is an attack upon the 417 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: very essence of the profession itself, in terms of what 418 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: arguments you can advance and which clients you can take on. 419 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: It seems to be the very antithesis of what the 420 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: law should represent. There's a good article, I don't know 421 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: if you read it, Matt, about the ACLU and how 422 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: they have moved from a robust defense of the First 423 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: Amendment to now saying, oh, if people have opinions that 424 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: make some of our lawyers uncomfortable, maybe we shouldn't be 425 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: defending them, when, in essence, when I was in law school, 426 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: and I'm betting when you were in law school, Matt, 427 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: the ACLU stood for a lawyer's obligation to defend all speech, 428 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: even if sometimes that speech might make some people uncomfortable. 429 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. And the fact is it's set. You know. 430 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: It just stawned on me today when it comes to 431 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: these types of issues, right and wrong has now become 432 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: has now been reduced to what side of the political 433 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: al you're on. It doesn't matter what you stand up for. 434 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter for what you're advocating for for your client. 435 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter the fact that you know you have 436 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: a duty, you have an ethical duty as an attorney 437 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: to stand up and present your client side to the court. 438 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: But that doesn't matter anymore if you are standing up 439 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: for what's wrong in the eyes of the elite. And 440 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: that has got to stop because if it doesn't stop, 441 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: then we're going to see the end of our law 442 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: profession and we're going to send the end of our 443 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: justice system. Well, man, we've already seen the end of 444 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: our journalist profession, in my opinion, which is something Clay 445 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: and I are going to be talking about. Maybe the 446 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: left has designs on the legal profession too. And I 447 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: have friends who have just graduated in recent years from 448 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: well relatively recent years, from law school and the leftist 449 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: indoctrination that goes on there is something that is if 450 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: we talk about in an undergrad context, we should be 451 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: talking about it in graduate schools now too, because it's 452 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: all over the place. The Bill in Palm City, Florida. Bill, 453 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 1: you're on the CLAYT. Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Hey, 454 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: thanks guys. You guys are doing a great job. We 455 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: appreciate you. Thank you so much. I was calling about 456 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: Giuliani today getting this law license snag by five leftist 457 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: Democrat judges in New York. And this is like the 458 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: day before he's ready to celebrate fifty two years of 459 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: being a licensed attorney in New York. That is petty. 460 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: That is stone cold petty. Five liberal judges in New 461 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: York just jump the shark. People are kind of and 462 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: for this. Juliani's going to appeal this. This is so 463 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: mean and petty. You've got to be stone cold to 464 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: do that fifty two years, one day before an anniversary 465 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: like that cold man. Just I think the big challenge 466 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: here is the very essence of a guy that I 467 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: think even his most hated adversaries would have to acknowledge 468 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: that Rudy Giuliani is an incredibly talented advocate and has 469 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: been historically in the practice of law, and so the 470 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: idea that this is anything other than a political attack 471 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: against him for making decisions. And we've seen this at 472 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: big law firms. Buck, some of these big law firms 473 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: have started to kind of adopt the same thing that 474 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: the Aco you did, which is, if you are going 475 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: to advocate for a side that makes some of the 476 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: partners uncomfortable, then we don't want you associated with our 477 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: law firm. And again, this is the antithesis of everything 478 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 1: that being a lawyer should represent. I remember in the 479 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: Special Council era in the former White House under Trump, 480 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: and I was very supportive of the Trump administration openly, 481 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: and I was always trying to talk to people in 482 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: the administration and sources there about how are they dealing 483 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: with this clay. It was difficult for people to get 484 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: It was difficult for the White House to get appropriate 485 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: counsel sometimes because people didn't want to take the heat. 486 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: You can imagine what it was like for some of 487 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: the lower level staffers who were ensnared in that Muller 488 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: Special Council prop which was just pure political payback for 489 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: Trump winning the twenty sixteen election, and we all know it. 490 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: There were people who were who didn't have a lot 491 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: of resources and a lot of money to pay for 492 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: lawyers and stuff, and there were lawyers that didn't. I 493 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: heard this from people trying to deal with being brought 494 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: into the Muller ensnarement mechanism. They had a hard time 495 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: getting certain people to represent them because lawyers feel like 496 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: they're now in the crosshairs of the cancel left too. 497 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: That's one hundred percent righte Buck. There are a lot 498 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: of big law firms out there that historically have been 499 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: very comfortable in their pro bono work, not charging the 500 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: thousand dollars an hour rates, big corporate law firms representing 501 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: politicians in a variety of different capacities. And what you 502 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: saw I've never seen before, which was these law firms 503 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: putting pressure on partners, guys who are making millions of 504 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: dollars a year as practicing attorneys, saying you can't represent 505 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: this client and still be at this law firm. You're 506 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: seeing this all throughout society, my friends, all over the place, 507 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: and that's why Clay and I are here fighting back 508 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: against the madness. We have more for you. Speaking of madness, 509 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: claim might let me play a joy behar of the View. 510 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: If you want the worst will be fun, the worst 511 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: political analysis you could get, you should turn on some 512 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: of the voices on the View. We'll get to that 513 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: in a moment. And then also critical race theory. In 514 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: the third hour today we have a throwdown with one 515 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: of the biggest voices against critical race theory and an 516 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: MSNBC host that's coming up right at the top of 517 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: the third hour the show. And I just want to 518 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: tell you all that I love my family, dog. 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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck 545 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 546 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,719 Speaker 1: As we roll through the final segment of the second hour. 547 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: I want to let you know if you're missing any 548 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: of the show at all, and I hope you're not, 549 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: but if you are, you can go to Clay and 550 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: Buck dot com check out all of our segments. Encourage 551 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: you to go sign up for the podcast. I haven't 552 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: checked to day Buck. We were one of the five 553 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: biggest in the world of news, one of the twentiest 554 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: biggest podcasts in the country. A ton of you have 555 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: been going out there. If you sign up, you can 556 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: search out my name Clay Travis, you can search out 557 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton. Give us a five star review and try 558 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: to be as witty and entertaining as possible. Will eventually 559 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: go in start reading some of those on the air 560 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: to thank you for those five star reviews which impact 561 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: things in the podcast universe. I promise some of you. 562 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: Joy Behar from the view and her thoughts on the 563 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: top of political story and disarmed police. Let's let's just 564 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: bring into our our a little castle of freedom here 565 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: for a second. Let's bring the voice of Joy Behar 566 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: into the mix, so I have my tune. You have 567 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: any concerns on your part about going outside now, I 568 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: do have concerns about going into situations where there are 569 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: mobs of people, and I will not go there. I mean, 570 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: I just had to turn down a family member's wedding 571 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: because they're invite two hundred and fifty people. I can't, 572 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: I can't, I can't do that. On the other hand, 573 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: I'm following the science and I've been double vacxed, and 574 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: every doctor on television, on this show and others tells 575 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: you that if you have got a double vaccine, you're 576 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: pretty good with the variant that you're not going to 577 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: get it. And so what more do people have to hear? 578 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: We'll never live the house if we're going to continuously 579 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: be afraid to go out. I love this Clay because 580 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: she's like, I'm vaccinated, but I'm not going to go 581 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: to the big event with all the people. But get 582 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: your vaccine, but don't go to your big event otherwise 583 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: you sit like me here with Clay, who you know, 584 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: he drinks his Mountain dew and he man explains it. 585 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: He likes the sports. That show pays a lot of 586 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: people a lot of money to not even be able 587 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: to make sense for a minute and a half. Her 588 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: logic in that perspective is you just eloquently destroyed. She 589 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: couldn't even maintain the same argument for a minute and 590 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: a half. She's not willing to go to a wedding 591 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: with two hundred and fifty people, but she's been double 592 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: vaccinated and she thinks it's time, based on all the science, 593 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: for people to get back to their normal wife. She's 594 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: not even doing that herself. Are people so dumb who 595 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: watched that show that they can't follow the train of 596 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: thought for ninety seconds? I just feel like Clay came 597 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 1: in yesterday with cold pizza and no mask, and it 598 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 1: was so upsetting to me. I'd love to go on 599 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: one of these shows sometime. They haven't really let me 600 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: on these shows since I got kicked off CNN for 601 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: saying that I was a big proponent of the First 602 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: Amendment and boobs. I'm sure they'd be terrified to have 603 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: me on the viewer. This is gonna go viral again 604 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: now how you've said it on this show. For people 605 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: who don't know, it was about four years ago. I 606 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: went on CNN to talk about the importance of the 607 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: First Amendment and on my shows at OutKick for a 608 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 1: long time, Buck, I've been saying I'm a First Amendment 609 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: ab salutist. But when you say something like that, it 610 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: goes over people's head because it's a cliche. And so 611 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: the way that I expanded it was I said, hey, 612 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 1: the only two things that have never let me down 613 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: in my life in America is the First Amendment in 614 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: boobs boobs, as it was spelled out on CNN. And 615 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: I said that, and the host, Brooke Baldwin at CNN 616 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: was aghast. She fell onto her feigning couch, she grabbed 617 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: her heart. It was like I had killed her, and 618 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: she immediately demanded that I apologize. You guys can go 619 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: look out, look up, this clip if you haven't seen 620 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: it an ironically, Buck, It's gone viral on TikTok and 621 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: on Instagram because all my kids, my thirteen year old 622 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: came in and the whole seventh grade class at his 623 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: school this past fall was suddenly seeing it for the 624 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: first time, and they loved it. But there's so much 625 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: artificiality out there that when I did not apologize for 626 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: what I had said, then they lost their mind. She 627 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 1: lost her mind on the program CNN and has banned me. 628 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: Are you still banned? I'm not allowed to go on CNN. 629 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 1: I've had friends who were banned from certain totalitarian countries 630 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: after their travel, and they're writing about them. I was 631 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: always jealous of that. You are officigitimately banned. I feel 632 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: like I'm soft banned now from CNN, but I've never 633 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,479 Speaker 1: gotten the actual Fatuan. They told me that I would 634 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: never be allowed on CNN again after that segment, and 635 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: I'm also banned simultaneously at ESPN, which is also kind 636 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: of crazy. Why because I speak the truth? Buck Ah, 637 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: there we go. It's a badge of honor. See, this 638 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: is the way, this bunch of honor in many different ways. 639 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 1: Who banned you tells you a little bit more about things. 640 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't love to go on the view. I 641 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: don't think they'd have me on because I'm banned. C 642 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: should should have us both on Simultaneouslius. That would be 643 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 1: at and I bet we could maintain the same argument 644 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,439 Speaker 1: for ninety seconds at least. Yeah, i Q level would 645 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: go up a little bit with missus Bayhall President, I 646 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: can assure you, but we're gonna come back in a 647 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: moment here and actually have a have a real, real 648 00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: deep dive into critical race theory. Rufa versus Joy Reid 649 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: on MSNBC, one of the biggest voices against CRT against 650 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: a major host at MSNBC. We break it down for 651 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: you on the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Come Up. 652 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: You're listening to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the 653 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 1: EIB Network.