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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schreeger as a production of the

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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with my Heart Radio. Yes, when that

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Speaker 1: music hits, I get very excited. I'm Peter Schreeger. I'm

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Speaker 1: the host of Good Morning Football in the NFL Network,

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Speaker 1: and I am also the host of the Season with

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Speaker 1: Peter Schreeger, just the podcast we do every Tuesday here

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Speaker 1: in New York City. My boy, my producer, my man,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Woon Kaufman. What is up, dude much? How you

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Speaker 1: don't welcome back from Germany. I'm back from Germany. Um?

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Speaker 1: Should I get right into it? Yeah? Yeah, I want

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Speaker 1: to hear about it. So if you're wondering why I

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Speaker 1: wasn't in Germany and I was recording last week's podcast

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Speaker 1: empty the bag right now and let everybody know. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I'm supposed to leave last Friday, got to the airport,

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Speaker 1: had my bags packed, had my passport. My passport expires January.

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Speaker 1: I'm good. I went to London a month ago. I

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Speaker 1: had a great week. No one said much like just yeah,

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Speaker 1: good luck. Here it's your ticket, go whatever. Get to

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Speaker 1: the Luftanza Airline ticket gate thing at Newark and the woman,

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Speaker 1: with very very little room for negotiation or desire to

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Speaker 1: have a conversation, um, is like, you cannot fly. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: what do you mean I can't fly? Here's my ticket? Um,

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Speaker 1: really important. I talked about football for a living. I

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Speaker 1: She says, Uh, No, your passport expires in less than

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Speaker 1: sitting with Jamie Ertole, who's my lovely co host uncle

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Speaker 1: Morning Football, and like it was almost like a scene

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Speaker 1: Someone needs to talk about it for five days on

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Speaker 1: We love what we do, UM, but it's a very

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Speaker 1: Monday night game in Mexico City coming up, and like

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Speaker 1: if I'm Cliff. I don't know, like, do I rush

423
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Speaker 1: Kyler back from my amstring injury or do I say,

424
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Speaker 1: let's see how this thing goes. Let's roll the dice. Now.

425
00:22:20,426 --> 00:22:22,946
Speaker 1: When I say it's a I've got a bias towards Cole,

426
00:22:23,026 --> 00:22:26,186
Speaker 1: it's because I've really really enjoyed his company. I've got

427
00:22:26,186 --> 00:22:28,026
Speaker 1: to know him really well over the years as a reporter.

428
00:22:28,146 --> 00:22:31,346
Speaker 1: He's always wonderful to us in the media. He's always

429
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Speaker 1: very gracious with his time. This past summer, I attended

430
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Speaker 1: Sean mcveigh's wedding out in l A name drop. They

431
00:22:38,626 --> 00:22:41,266
Speaker 1: would only PLoP that one right in here at our table,

432
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Speaker 1: my wife Eric and I, we're sitting next to Colt

433
00:22:43,626 --> 00:22:46,026
Speaker 1: McCoy and his wife, and we're sitting next to Kingsbury,

434
00:22:46,226 --> 00:22:49,186
Speaker 1: and it's Brandon Staley and his wife, and Kevin O'Connell

435
00:22:49,226 --> 00:22:52,866
Speaker 1: and his wife, and this gentleman, Chaz Gasner. Everyone google

436
00:22:52,946 --> 00:22:56,106
Speaker 1: Chaz Gasner, that dudes, the man. Chazz Gasner played for

437
00:22:56,186 --> 00:22:58,506
Speaker 1: Belichick in the Patriots and then was coached by Sean

438
00:22:58,586 --> 00:23:01,746
Speaker 1: McVeigh when Sean McVeigh was the h head. It was

439
00:23:01,786 --> 00:23:04,146
Speaker 1: one of the offensive coaches for the Florida Tuskers in

440
00:23:04,186 --> 00:23:07,066
Speaker 1: the UFL. Yep, we're going back that way. Anyway, We've

441
00:23:07,066 --> 00:23:10,146
Speaker 1: got this great table of great time. Coult McCoy and

442
00:23:10,186 --> 00:23:12,146
Speaker 1: my wife hit it off in a way that at

443
00:23:12,146 --> 00:23:13,466
Speaker 1: the end of it, I'm like, all right, chill out

444
00:23:13,466 --> 00:23:16,346
Speaker 1: with talking to Colt. I'm here, I'm your date, all right. Uh.

445
00:23:16,546 --> 00:23:20,906
Speaker 1: Just an awesome, awesome guy, his wife awesome. Another thing

446
00:23:20,906 --> 00:23:23,786
Speaker 1: that Aaron, you'll like about Colt, which I always appreciate.

447
00:23:24,346 --> 00:23:27,106
Speaker 1: Coulte McCoy, Uh, play for the Giants for one year,

448
00:23:27,226 --> 00:23:29,866
Speaker 1: won a huge game for them in Seattle, and people

449
00:23:29,906 --> 00:23:33,786
Speaker 1: love it. Coulte McCoy chose to live with his I

450
00:23:33,826 --> 00:23:37,426
Speaker 1: want to say, four kids and his wife in Manhattan

451
00:23:37,426 --> 00:23:39,986
Speaker 1: when he played for the New York Giants during COVID,

452
00:23:40,106 --> 00:23:41,746
Speaker 1: and I was like, why would you live in Manhattan.

453
00:23:41,746 --> 00:23:44,506
Speaker 1: You've got to drive an hour out and two hours

454
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Speaker 1: back from the facility. Why would you live in Manhattan?

455
00:23:47,186 --> 00:23:49,466
Speaker 1: And Coulte McCoy's whole thing was like, well, I knew

456
00:23:49,466 --> 00:23:50,866
Speaker 1: I wasn't living here the rest of my life. I

457
00:23:50,906 --> 00:23:53,346
Speaker 1: knew so once in a lifetime experience. I wanted my

458
00:23:53,426 --> 00:23:56,186
Speaker 1: daughters to experience living in New York City. So every

459
00:23:56,226 --> 00:23:58,346
Speaker 1: day they would go to the Central Park and they

460
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Speaker 1: can go in the rest of their life and say,

461
00:24:00,266 --> 00:24:02,026
Speaker 1: like I had to, I had that experience. Life's all

462
00:24:02,026 --> 00:24:06,026
Speaker 1: about the experiences. And uh, that's four minutes on Coulte McCoy.

463
00:24:06,186 --> 00:24:08,866
Speaker 1: But gosh, if you can't tell what a fan I

464
00:24:08,906 --> 00:24:11,306
Speaker 1: am of that guy and how happy I am for him.

465
00:24:11,346 --> 00:24:14,426
Speaker 1: And again, this is on Tuesday, and recording this, everyone

466
00:24:14,466 --> 00:24:17,026
Speaker 1: is assuming Kyler is back on Monday and performance are not.

467
00:24:17,426 --> 00:24:19,706
Speaker 1: Don't be shocked if I see McCoy under center in

468
00:24:19,746 --> 00:24:25,786
Speaker 1: Mexico City next Monday night. Now you're shoutout fourth down, Aaron,

469
00:24:25,906 --> 00:24:29,146
Speaker 1: take us home. Wow, I I love that called McCoy story.

470
00:24:29,386 --> 00:24:32,946
Speaker 1: You were right like them wanting to live in Manhattan. Um. So,

471
00:24:33,026 --> 00:24:37,146
Speaker 1: my fourth down is Christian Watson, who his parents are

472
00:24:37,146 --> 00:24:39,706
Speaker 1: in the news to his mom coming out, she talks

473
00:24:39,786 --> 00:24:42,306
Speaker 1: so much about him, she defends him on social media

474
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Speaker 1: all the time. And Christian Watson the rookie receiver for

475
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Speaker 1: Green Bay. First game, he has this big drop Rogers

476
00:24:49,826 --> 00:24:51,826
Speaker 1: throws in the ball. He doesn't get it. It's he's

477
00:24:51,866 --> 00:24:54,946
Speaker 1: wide open that that could be such a setback, and

478
00:24:55,026 --> 00:25:00,306
Speaker 1: instead this week he took over the game for them.

479
00:25:00,426 --> 00:25:03,066
Speaker 1: UM four receptions on eight targets, but he had a

480
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Speaker 1: hundred seven yards and he had three touchdowns, including a

481
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Speaker 1: thirty nine yard and a fifty eight yarder. And in

482
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Speaker 1: the fourth the Packers were down in the midst of

483
00:25:14,746 --> 00:25:19,146
Speaker 1: a five game losing streak. Watson was like the X

484
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Speaker 1: factor that helped force overtime and then they eventually win

485
00:25:22,626 --> 00:25:25,546
Speaker 1: the game. Um, we had to talk about Tom Brady

486
00:25:25,786 --> 00:25:30,106
Speaker 1: like feeling rejuvenated, kind of felt like Aaron Rodgers, Like

487
00:25:30,146 --> 00:25:34,746
Speaker 1: you see Rogers flexing, Rogers flexing, he like found his

488
00:25:34,826 --> 00:25:38,586
Speaker 1: new ride receiver maybe here, and and you know, earlier

489
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Speaker 1: in the year Romeo Dobbs. Dubbs was like the big

490
00:25:41,746 --> 00:25:45,946
Speaker 1: rookie for them. But Watson is a pretty incredible athlete.

491
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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something about that game, because he

492
00:25:49,426 --> 00:25:52,546
Speaker 1: dropped two balls early that he has the big touchdown

493
00:25:52,546 --> 00:25:54,946
Speaker 1: and then Rogers goes back to him again and he

494
00:25:55,066 --> 00:25:57,386
Speaker 1: drops it, and Greg Olsen's on the call and he's like, yeah,

495
00:25:57,386 --> 00:26:00,706
Speaker 1: he wasn't looking in the right direction, and it's like, alright, dude,

496
00:26:01,266 --> 00:26:04,346
Speaker 1: he had one. Yeah, Rogers has lost faith. And then

497
00:26:04,426 --> 00:26:06,146
Speaker 1: Rodgers goes to him twice in the clutch and he

498
00:26:06,266 --> 00:26:08,706
Speaker 1: makes the plays and he was so fired up. You're right.

499
00:26:08,946 --> 00:26:11,106
Speaker 1: We had him on Good Morning Football last year before

500
00:26:11,146 --> 00:26:13,266
Speaker 1: the draft. He's a tall drink of water. This dude

501
00:26:13,306 --> 00:26:16,586
Speaker 1: is like six five, skinny, play with Trey Lanson College.

502
00:26:16,586 --> 00:26:18,386
Speaker 1: So a lot of questions were, like, you know, we

503
00:26:18,506 --> 00:26:21,586
Speaker 1: thought Watson would go third, fourth round, he goes early, second,

504
00:26:22,306 --> 00:26:24,626
Speaker 1: and it wasn't going well the first few weeks. To

505
00:26:24,666 --> 00:26:27,026
Speaker 1: your point, and to see the emotion, to see it

506
00:26:27,106 --> 00:26:30,706
Speaker 1: like if Rogers finally trusts one of these young guys,

507
00:26:30,906 --> 00:26:32,986
Speaker 1: that might be all it takes for that offense to

508
00:26:33,066 --> 00:26:36,346
Speaker 1: change and gosh, what a win for them. Um, great

509
00:26:36,386 --> 00:26:38,786
Speaker 1: fourth down? Are we ready for our guest? I think

510
00:26:38,826 --> 00:26:40,826
Speaker 1: we are. Yeah, who do we have today? I am

511
00:26:40,866 --> 00:26:44,146
Speaker 1: so excited for this. He is the thirty seven year

512
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Speaker 1: old first year general manager of one of the most

513
00:26:48,706 --> 00:26:52,866
Speaker 1: historic franchises in all of football, the Chicago Bears. I'm

514
00:26:52,906 --> 00:27:02,186
Speaker 1: so fired up to bring on their GM, Mr Ryan Poles. Now,

515
00:27:02,266 --> 00:27:06,186
Speaker 1: he's a thirty seven year old first year general manager

516
00:27:06,186 --> 00:27:09,626
Speaker 1: in the NFL and he's having an outstanding first campaign

517
00:27:10,386 --> 00:27:12,986
Speaker 1: over there in Chicago as the general manager of one

518
00:27:12,986 --> 00:27:16,906
Speaker 1: of the most historic and legendary franchises in our fine league.

519
00:27:17,426 --> 00:27:19,906
Speaker 1: It's the Chicago Bears general manager and a man that

520
00:27:19,986 --> 00:27:21,706
Speaker 1: I've been wanting to get on the podcast since we

521
00:27:21,746 --> 00:27:25,946
Speaker 1: started this thing, Mr Ryan Poles. Ryan, what's up man?

522
00:27:26,146 --> 00:27:29,866
Speaker 1: What's going on? How you doing? I'm doing great. As

523
00:27:29,866 --> 00:27:33,106
Speaker 1: we're doing this, you are currently in your office at

524
00:27:33,146 --> 00:27:37,706
Speaker 1: like Hollis Hall. Uh, we're now eleven weeks into the season.

525
00:27:38,266 --> 00:27:40,546
Speaker 1: Does it Does it ever sink in that? Oh? My,

526
00:27:40,826 --> 00:27:44,586
Speaker 1: I am the general manager of the Bears. Yeah, it's

527
00:27:44,666 --> 00:27:47,426
Speaker 1: it's it's awesome. It's a dream come true with just

528
00:27:47,506 --> 00:27:50,306
Speaker 1: working for a franchise like this with you know, a

529
00:27:50,346 --> 00:27:52,906
Speaker 1: lot of history. It means a lot. It's all over

530
00:27:52,906 --> 00:27:55,026
Speaker 1: the walls, it's in the entrance like we talked about

531
00:27:55,026 --> 00:27:59,386
Speaker 1: back in the combine, So you're reminded often and uh,

532
00:27:59,466 --> 00:28:01,026
Speaker 1: you know you feel the way to that too, which

533
00:28:01,066 --> 00:28:04,186
Speaker 1: is which is good. I love it. I love the challenge. Yeah,

534
00:28:04,306 --> 00:28:07,106
Speaker 1: and I love the fact that you're in there and

535
00:28:07,146 --> 00:28:09,746
Speaker 1: it's it's a Tuesday and you're like, Okay, here's what

536
00:28:09,786 --> 00:28:12,786
Speaker 1: we got now, but we're building. We're building. When you

537
00:28:12,866 --> 00:28:17,106
Speaker 1: walked into those interviews, what was your selling point to saying, Hey,

538
00:28:17,146 --> 00:28:19,466
Speaker 1: i might be in my thirties, but I've been around

539
00:28:19,506 --> 00:28:23,186
Speaker 1: some really good builders. And I've got some really forward

540
00:28:23,226 --> 00:28:25,626
Speaker 1: thinking ideas I want to bring to this franchise. What

541
00:28:25,666 --> 00:28:27,826
Speaker 1: did you tell the McCaskey family, and really what was

542
00:28:27,866 --> 00:28:31,506
Speaker 1: your selling point saying, hey, take a shot on me. Yeah, listen,

543
00:28:31,546 --> 00:28:34,266
Speaker 1: I've been fortunate, right, I've been. I've worked from some

544
00:28:34,346 --> 00:28:38,426
Speaker 1: really good general managers and coaches, and I think the

545
00:28:38,506 --> 00:28:41,146
Speaker 1: key part was I've been through this journey from the

546
00:28:41,186 --> 00:28:43,866
Speaker 1: ground floor all the way to the top, um and

547
00:28:43,906 --> 00:28:46,746
Speaker 1: those challenges along the way, and each organization is gonna

548
00:28:46,746 --> 00:28:49,866
Speaker 1: be a little bit different. You can get different wrinkles, um,

549
00:28:49,906 --> 00:28:53,226
Speaker 1: but you've learned to adapt and adjust. You've learned what

550
00:28:53,906 --> 00:28:56,026
Speaker 1: really good football players look like and how they can

551
00:28:56,066 --> 00:28:58,826
Speaker 1: help your team. You've learned, you know, different schemes and

552
00:28:58,866 --> 00:29:01,786
Speaker 1: making sure that their scheme fits. You've had some really

553
00:29:01,786 --> 00:29:04,306
Speaker 1: good cultures. You know, some really good locker rooms, so

554
00:29:04,346 --> 00:29:06,386
Speaker 1: you know what kind of guys you need to add

555
00:29:06,466 --> 00:29:09,066
Speaker 1: to that room to be a championship level team. So

556
00:29:09,706 --> 00:29:10,986
Speaker 1: you know, I was up for the challenge, and I

557
00:29:11,026 --> 00:29:12,906
Speaker 1: think they knew that because I've been through it in

558
00:29:12,906 --> 00:29:15,106
Speaker 1: my past and I've been able to learn a lot

559
00:29:15,146 --> 00:29:17,266
Speaker 1: so I can apply this, you know, to this job

560
00:29:17,306 --> 00:29:20,706
Speaker 1: and get this organization backward belongs. Well, let's go through

561
00:29:20,746 --> 00:29:22,986
Speaker 1: the resume. I think everyone loves like, Okay, so how

562
00:29:22,986 --> 00:29:26,346
Speaker 1: do I become an NFL general manager? It doesn't happen overnight. Um,

563
00:29:26,426 --> 00:29:29,466
Speaker 1: let's go back to Boston College where who was your

564
00:29:29,506 --> 00:29:31,786
Speaker 1: quarterback when you played offensive line for the for the

565
00:29:31,986 --> 00:29:35,666
Speaker 1: Boston College. Yeah, Mattie Eyce, Matt Ryan. You were Matt

566
00:29:35,746 --> 00:29:39,306
Speaker 1: Ryan's offensive lineman in college you play. Did did you

567
00:29:39,346 --> 00:29:41,386
Speaker 1: have dreams of being a player or was it always hey,

568
00:29:41,386 --> 00:29:43,466
Speaker 1: I'm either go into coaching or being in the front

569
00:29:43,506 --> 00:29:45,826
Speaker 1: office back then? Yeah, No, it was it was definitely

570
00:29:45,826 --> 00:29:48,746
Speaker 1: being a player. That was the first and foremost. Um

571
00:29:48,906 --> 00:29:51,666
Speaker 1: had a pretty good career, you know. Unfortunately, I think

572
00:29:51,666 --> 00:29:54,346
Speaker 1: it was like late October my senior year, fifth year,

573
00:29:54,346 --> 00:29:57,066
Speaker 1: senior year, we go to Notre Dame and I ruptured

574
00:29:57,066 --> 00:30:00,466
Speaker 1: my achilles. So at that moment when I found out,

575
00:30:00,826 --> 00:30:02,666
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you know, this is gonna be a

576
00:30:02,666 --> 00:30:05,706
Speaker 1: tough journey. So, you know, I think it's it's just

577
00:30:05,746 --> 00:30:08,306
Speaker 1: how I've been ray is that I rehab that worked

578
00:30:08,346 --> 00:30:11,226
Speaker 1: my butt off to get back, which brought me to

579
00:30:11,386 --> 00:30:13,706
Speaker 1: Hollis Hall, you know, to have an opportunity to be

580
00:30:13,786 --> 00:30:17,306
Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent trying to make the team. Unfortunately,

581
00:30:17,746 --> 00:30:20,426
Speaker 1: you know that didn't work out. Wasn't talented enough, really

582
00:30:20,506 --> 00:30:23,266
Speaker 1: wasn't in the right shape. You're just coming off that injury.

583
00:30:23,626 --> 00:30:25,946
Speaker 1: But there's cut of years this since j Cutler years,

584
00:30:25,946 --> 00:30:27,866
Speaker 1: like who was like, what was the team? Then? Yeah

585
00:30:27,866 --> 00:30:32,786
Speaker 1: it was Jay and they were like rotating with Rex too, Okay, yeah,

586
00:30:32,826 --> 00:30:36,746
Speaker 1: Devin Hester just seeing him run around with old and crowds,

587
00:30:36,826 --> 00:30:39,906
Speaker 1: just how he held down the old line room and

588
00:30:40,306 --> 00:30:43,306
Speaker 1: Lance Briggs and and Ur Lockers. So there's some special

589
00:30:43,586 --> 00:30:46,666
Speaker 1: special guys on this team. So you don't make the

590
00:30:46,666 --> 00:30:49,746
Speaker 1: team and then what Yeah, So I was trying to

591
00:30:49,746 --> 00:30:51,546
Speaker 1: get my mind right. I had a buddy from BC

592
00:30:51,706 --> 00:30:53,786
Speaker 1: who was like, I know where you're at mentally. You

593
00:30:53,826 --> 00:30:57,066
Speaker 1: want to go to Alaska with me? So we jump

594
00:30:57,106 --> 00:31:01,426
Speaker 1: on a plane and go to Alaska. Really oh yeah, Anchorage,

595
00:31:01,466 --> 00:31:04,146
Speaker 1: but listen to this. We go to Anchorage, then we

596
00:31:04,226 --> 00:31:07,146
Speaker 1: go to Kodiak Island. Then we take a boat to

597
00:31:07,186 --> 00:31:10,626
Speaker 1: another island and we helped one of his dad's friends

598
00:31:10,666 --> 00:31:14,266
Speaker 1: shut down this camp fishing camp before the winter comes.

599
00:31:14,626 --> 00:31:18,306
Speaker 1: So really cool time. Something like if you get a

600
00:31:18,346 --> 00:31:20,106
Speaker 1: chance to do something like that, I've never heard just

601
00:31:20,146 --> 00:31:22,906
Speaker 1: piece and quiet like that in my entire life. So

602
00:31:22,946 --> 00:31:25,266
Speaker 1: we fished. It was good just to get some how.

603
00:31:26,146 --> 00:31:29,226
Speaker 1: I was about ten days, ten days of just serenity,

604
00:31:29,506 --> 00:31:33,906
Speaker 1: no football, no life like, no career. Just I mean,

605
00:31:33,906 --> 00:31:36,146
Speaker 1: first of all, I live in New York City. There's

606
00:31:36,146 --> 00:31:38,986
Speaker 1: no chance we're going to Anchor to Alaska unless my

607
00:31:39,026 --> 00:31:42,026
Speaker 1: career goes sideways and there's there's some job at local news.

608
00:31:42,066 --> 00:31:44,746
Speaker 1: But I would say that you get there and like

609
00:31:44,866 --> 00:31:46,266
Speaker 1: you had that piece of mind moment, you had, that

610
00:31:46,266 --> 00:31:49,946
Speaker 1: moment is in yeah, yeah, great moment collecting myself for

611
00:31:50,226 --> 00:31:52,946
Speaker 1: you know that next phase, um, and this was I

612
00:31:52,986 --> 00:31:55,386
Speaker 1: get back. I'm living with my wife Oupen at the

613
00:31:55,426 --> 00:31:57,906
Speaker 1: time of my girlfriend in Vermont. I get a call

614
00:31:58,186 --> 00:31:59,746
Speaker 1: from Boston College is, hey, do you want to come

615
00:31:59,746 --> 00:32:02,386
Speaker 1: and be a graduate assistant? And really that was the

616
00:32:02,426 --> 00:32:05,346
Speaker 1: first step that that set me up because you go

617
00:32:05,466 --> 00:32:07,986
Speaker 1: from playing ball and going to school. You've never had

618
00:32:08,026 --> 00:32:11,826
Speaker 1: that in office field before. So I don't I'm stabling

619
00:32:12,026 --> 00:32:15,826
Speaker 1: papers all messed up and like just so tighten that up.

620
00:32:15,866 --> 00:32:17,706
Speaker 1: Just the administrative thing, like how do you work in

621
00:32:17,706 --> 00:32:20,186
Speaker 1: the office with others? How do you you know, work

622
00:32:20,226 --> 00:32:22,146
Speaker 1: in the computers and things that you just don't get

623
00:32:22,146 --> 00:32:24,466
Speaker 1: a chance to when you're playing. So UM, I was

624
00:32:24,506 --> 00:32:26,546
Speaker 1: able to meet some really cool scouts that came through

625
00:32:26,626 --> 00:32:30,586
Speaker 1: Scott Prioli, John Dorsey. Uh, and that kicked off the

626
00:32:30,626 --> 00:32:33,666
Speaker 1: idea I want to get into scouting, so semi resume out,

627
00:32:33,706 --> 00:32:36,906
Speaker 1: had a bunch of interviews, and that brings me to

628
00:32:37,306 --> 00:32:40,346
Speaker 1: Kansas City, which was what thirteen fourteen years ago, and

629
00:32:40,346 --> 00:32:43,546
Speaker 1: that kind of started my journey in the scouting Yeah.

630
00:32:43,626 --> 00:32:46,226
Speaker 1: And well fast forward through those Kansas City years. So

631
00:32:46,266 --> 00:32:50,066
Speaker 1: many great NFL executives you mentioned p Reli of course,

632
00:32:50,106 --> 00:32:52,706
Speaker 1: but Dorsey and then you get to work you know,

633
00:32:52,826 --> 00:32:56,746
Speaker 1: alongside and and under Brett Veach and that front office

634
00:32:56,826 --> 00:32:59,106
Speaker 1: is often looked at as like the gold standard of

635
00:32:59,226 --> 00:33:01,946
Speaker 1: teaching you from the ground up and giving you other opportunities.

636
00:33:02,146 --> 00:33:05,066
Speaker 1: What were those opportunities within that chief's organization over the

637
00:33:05,106 --> 00:33:08,106
Speaker 1: course of fourteen years, different hats that you wore. Yeah,

638
00:33:08,186 --> 00:33:11,426
Speaker 1: and if my career was just you know, open puzzle

639
00:33:11,546 --> 00:33:15,626
Speaker 1: that still needed pieces dropped in, those three guys really

640
00:33:16,506 --> 00:33:19,706
Speaker 1: um gave me some really big parts to to build

641
00:33:19,706 --> 00:33:22,546
Speaker 1: who I am. And Scott with just the detail how

642
00:33:22,586 --> 00:33:27,026
Speaker 1: to run the office, how to lead UM with Dorsey

643
00:33:27,106 --> 00:33:31,466
Speaker 1: just an unbelievable. Like talent evaluator, how do you evaluate talent?

644
00:33:31,506 --> 00:33:34,426
Speaker 1: How do you run meetings? We run meetings just like

645
00:33:34,466 --> 00:33:36,026
Speaker 1: we did there, which goes all the way back to

646
00:33:36,146 --> 00:33:39,146
Speaker 1: Round Wolf, which I put probably should say too loud

647
00:33:39,186 --> 00:33:42,586
Speaker 1: around here with the Green Bay connection, but um, it's

648
00:33:42,626 --> 00:33:44,186
Speaker 1: it's a really good way to scout when you build

649
00:33:44,186 --> 00:33:46,746
Speaker 1: a draft board as well as free agency and then

650
00:33:46,786 --> 00:33:50,106
Speaker 1: reach like you know, each it's just his brains always going.

651
00:33:50,186 --> 00:33:53,266
Speaker 1: It's it's who doesn't stop. No, it's four steps down

652
00:33:53,346 --> 00:33:55,146
Speaker 1: the road because you have to be on your toes

653
00:33:55,186 --> 00:33:58,386
Speaker 1: and anticipate because whatever you think is gonna happen, it's

654
00:33:58,386 --> 00:34:00,426
Speaker 1: gonna change and you've got to be able to adapt

655
00:34:00,466 --> 00:34:02,866
Speaker 1: and adjust and kind of have those next plans put

656
00:34:02,906 --> 00:34:06,186
Speaker 1: to put in place. So really just to have those

657
00:34:06,186 --> 00:34:08,506
Speaker 1: three kind of build me up and build that foundation.

658
00:34:09,186 --> 00:34:11,626
Speaker 1: Who was a big, big part of me being here today.

659
00:34:11,906 --> 00:34:13,546
Speaker 1: You know, we had Joe Shane on a couple of

660
00:34:13,546 --> 00:34:16,826
Speaker 1: weeks ago and I said, when you were scouting Josh Allen,

661
00:34:16,866 --> 00:34:18,386
Speaker 1: what did you see? And he told a great story.

662
00:34:18,386 --> 00:34:21,026
Speaker 1: They played Nebraska and Allen threw four interceptions and Joe

663
00:34:21,066 --> 00:34:22,586
Speaker 1: gave him an a plus grade because he's like I

664
00:34:22,586 --> 00:34:24,306
Speaker 1: just said that, I've never seen in somewhere with a

665
00:34:24,306 --> 00:34:28,146
Speaker 1: cannon like that. So you're in Kansas City, it's sixteen,

666
00:34:28,346 --> 00:34:32,466
Speaker 1: it's seventeen, you get this thing that, Hey there's this

667
00:34:32,546 --> 00:34:36,746
Speaker 1: kid from Texas Tech. Um, what was your initial impressions

668
00:34:36,746 --> 00:34:39,066
Speaker 1: of Patrick Mahomes. What were the conversations had there in

669
00:34:39,146 --> 00:34:41,306
Speaker 1: Kansas City? And how did you guys keep that quiet?

670
00:34:41,346 --> 00:34:43,466
Speaker 1: Because I don't think anyone in the league knew that

671
00:34:43,466 --> 00:34:45,426
Speaker 1: you guys were hot on him. Yeah, no, you know,

672
00:34:45,466 --> 00:34:47,266
Speaker 1: And I give I give each a lot of credit

673
00:34:47,306 --> 00:34:50,786
Speaker 1: because he was excited about that guy for a long time. UM.

674
00:34:50,826 --> 00:34:53,106
Speaker 1: But I'll never forget sitting in the room and with

675
00:34:53,146 --> 00:34:55,866
Speaker 1: Coach Reid and breaking down that tape and all of

676
00:34:55,866 --> 00:34:59,866
Speaker 1: the guys that year. And although the stat sheet said

677
00:34:59,906 --> 00:35:02,626
Speaker 1: one thing with interceptions like Josh Allen, what you saw

678
00:35:02,826 --> 00:35:05,306
Speaker 1: was a guy out there just slinging it and making

679
00:35:05,346 --> 00:35:07,986
Speaker 1: it work with what he had. UM. And there was

680
00:35:08,026 --> 00:35:10,706
Speaker 1: a lot of There was accuracy, there was arms strength,

681
00:35:10,946 --> 00:35:12,826
Speaker 1: there was ability to add live and just make it

682
00:35:12,826 --> 00:35:15,546
Speaker 1: happen when it really wasn't there. UM. So to see

683
00:35:15,586 --> 00:35:17,946
Speaker 1: that from that moment and see a play out to

684
00:35:17,946 --> 00:35:21,386
Speaker 1: to who he is today, it's incredible, but that journey

685
00:35:21,466 --> 00:35:24,226
Speaker 1: was awesome to uh, to go through with those guys.

686
00:35:24,906 --> 00:35:27,386
Speaker 1: When Mahomes first got there, obviously, Alex Smith was the

687
00:35:27,466 --> 00:35:29,986
Speaker 1: quarterback and we've talked about it a lot on our

688
00:35:29,986 --> 00:35:31,866
Speaker 1: show Good Morning Football. So we had Paul Rudd on

689
00:35:31,866 --> 00:35:34,346
Speaker 1: earlier season. He was like, Alex Smith deserves so much

690
00:35:34,346 --> 00:35:36,786
Speaker 1: credit for just being secure enough and who Alex Smith

691
00:35:36,986 --> 00:35:40,386
Speaker 1: is and to be willing to show Patrick the rope.

692
00:35:40,946 --> 00:35:42,586
Speaker 1: But that first year, when he only played in that

693
00:35:42,626 --> 00:35:45,906
Speaker 1: final game against Denver, did you have an idea like, Oh,

694
00:35:46,026 --> 00:35:48,626
Speaker 1: this dude's gonna take the league by storm next season? Yeah,

695
00:35:48,786 --> 00:35:50,826
Speaker 1: you had an idea. I mean there was I have

696
00:35:50,946 --> 00:35:54,066
Speaker 1: clips still on my phone today from like a little

697
00:35:54,146 --> 00:35:57,346
Speaker 1: kid like at practice, like did he just do that?

698
00:35:57,706 --> 00:35:59,426
Speaker 1: And you're like you take a clip of it and

699
00:35:59,466 --> 00:36:01,506
Speaker 1: like send it to one of the scouts on the road, like, Bro,

700
00:36:01,706 --> 00:36:04,906
Speaker 1: this dude's a real deal. Um. So yeah, you you

701
00:36:05,026 --> 00:36:07,306
Speaker 1: had a sense of it. But are exactly right what

702
00:36:07,386 --> 00:36:11,226
Speaker 1: Alex brought to him? You know? I was thought they

703
00:36:11,266 --> 00:36:14,026
Speaker 1: were kind of opposites, Like what Pat didn't have in

704
00:36:14,146 --> 00:36:16,746
Speaker 1: his game, Alex was really good at and he had

705
00:36:16,786 --> 00:36:19,066
Speaker 1: to show him how to manage the game, when they

706
00:36:19,106 --> 00:36:22,306
Speaker 1: take chances. When not to take chances, Um, when it's

707
00:36:22,306 --> 00:36:24,666
Speaker 1: okay to check it down, you know, and play the

708
00:36:24,706 --> 00:36:26,426
Speaker 1: safer route so you can just continue to move the

709
00:36:26,506 --> 00:36:29,986
Speaker 1: chains and protect the ball. So um. And then obviously

710
00:36:30,026 --> 00:36:32,106
Speaker 1: being a pro, that's one thing. You know, we have

711
00:36:32,146 --> 00:36:36,066
Speaker 1: a really young team here and you're learning to be

712
00:36:36,066 --> 00:36:38,266
Speaker 1: a pros hard. You gotta take care of your body,

713
00:36:38,306 --> 00:36:39,826
Speaker 1: you gotta take care of your mind. You have to

714
00:36:39,826 --> 00:36:44,666
Speaker 1: eliminate distractions. Um, you gotta be a master of your craft,

715
00:36:44,946 --> 00:36:46,666
Speaker 1: you know, at this level if you want to be good.

716
00:36:46,746 --> 00:36:50,186
Speaker 1: So Um, Alex was definitely able to show Pat that,

717
00:36:50,306 --> 00:36:52,946
Speaker 1: which was really cool. It's cool. And then you get

718
00:36:52,986 --> 00:36:57,386
Speaker 1: an interview with Carolina last offseason. You prepared for that,

719
00:36:57,506 --> 00:37:00,826
Speaker 1: you don't get that job. Walking out of that situation,

720
00:37:01,266 --> 00:37:04,106
Speaker 1: did you feel like, Okay, the next interview, the next opportunity,

721
00:37:04,106 --> 00:37:07,626
Speaker 1: I'm gonna crush this night. Yeah. Yeah, clearly a confidence builder.

722
00:37:07,706 --> 00:37:10,426
Speaker 1: You walk into a situation that you don't You're unaware

723
00:37:10,466 --> 00:37:13,586
Speaker 1: of what it's gonna look like. Um, there's a little

724
00:37:13,586 --> 00:37:15,306
Speaker 1: you know, question like am I ready for this? Like

725
00:37:15,346 --> 00:37:17,666
Speaker 1: am I really ready for this? And you go through

726
00:37:17,706 --> 00:37:20,946
Speaker 1: the steps, you go online and do your your your

727
00:37:20,946 --> 00:37:25,106
Speaker 1: Skype or your zoom interview and like, damn right, I

728
00:37:25,106 --> 00:37:27,306
Speaker 1: can do this. And then in person, Yeah, you go

729
00:37:27,346 --> 00:37:29,426
Speaker 1: in person and share your philosophy and how you want

730
00:37:29,426 --> 00:37:32,306
Speaker 1: to do things and what you believe in. And again

731
00:37:32,346 --> 00:37:34,266
Speaker 1: you walk out the room like, if I don't get this,

732
00:37:34,626 --> 00:37:38,226
Speaker 1: the next opportunity, you know, I'm gonna be ready and

733
00:37:38,746 --> 00:37:41,146
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a really good job too. So definitely

734
00:37:41,226 --> 00:37:43,066
Speaker 1: was a great experience. Get my foot in the door

735
00:37:43,146 --> 00:37:46,106
Speaker 1: for that first interview. Um, gave me a ton of confidence,

736
00:37:46,186 --> 00:37:48,706
Speaker 1: gave me some directions. I think the big thing is

737
00:37:48,746 --> 00:37:51,026
Speaker 1: like where are my holes at? Like what do I

738
00:37:51,266 --> 00:37:53,946
Speaker 1: what was that not comfortable answering? All right? Now? How

739
00:37:53,946 --> 00:37:56,626
Speaker 1: do I go fill that? Right? How do I develop

740
00:37:56,706 --> 00:37:59,546
Speaker 1: myself in some spaces that I'm not good enough right now?

741
00:37:59,986 --> 00:38:01,386
Speaker 1: And you do that and you fill up on it,

742
00:38:01,426 --> 00:38:03,946
Speaker 1: and you educate yourself and you meet people that are

743
00:38:03,986 --> 00:38:05,826
Speaker 1: really good at it, and you just try to build

744
00:38:05,866 --> 00:38:07,986
Speaker 1: as a person. Then you know, that's something I tell

745
00:38:08,026 --> 00:38:11,586
Speaker 1: my staff here. I want them to continually develop their

746
00:38:11,626 --> 00:38:14,466
Speaker 1: weaknesses so as a group will get stronger and stronger.

747
00:38:14,746 --> 00:38:16,946
Speaker 1: You know, It's funny because a lot of times there's

748
00:38:16,986 --> 00:38:19,906
Speaker 1: a young coach and there's almost like a rolling of

749
00:38:19,906 --> 00:38:21,906
Speaker 1: the eyes. Like I remember when McVeigh was thirty, it

750
00:38:21,986 --> 00:38:23,546
Speaker 1: was almost like I would get text from thirty one

751
00:38:23,586 --> 00:38:25,306
Speaker 1: of their coaches being like, who is this hot shot?

752
00:38:25,626 --> 00:38:27,546
Speaker 1: Looking for him to fail? I'll think it's not the

753
00:38:27,586 --> 00:38:30,146
Speaker 1: same with you, Like I feel like maybe it's the

754
00:38:30,266 --> 00:38:32,626
Speaker 1: fifteen years or the ten thousand hours you've put in,

755
00:38:32,666 --> 00:38:36,466
Speaker 1: but you are universally respected and really well liked by

756
00:38:36,546 --> 00:38:39,186
Speaker 1: these other general managers. And one of the things I

757
00:38:39,186 --> 00:38:41,826
Speaker 1: think that was really respected was you came in with

758
00:38:41,906 --> 00:38:43,786
Speaker 1: Chicago and you guys had to hire a new head coach.

759
00:38:44,426 --> 00:38:46,426
Speaker 1: And tell me if I'm wrong here. You didn't have

760
00:38:46,546 --> 00:38:49,226
Speaker 1: much history with Mattieberflus. You didn't just hire a buddy.

761
00:38:49,386 --> 00:38:51,586
Speaker 1: You didn't just go the safe route. You guys had

762
00:38:51,626 --> 00:38:54,186
Speaker 1: a real search and you hired the head coach and

763
00:38:54,186 --> 00:38:56,226
Speaker 1: you thought was best for the Chicago Bears franchise, not

764
00:38:56,226 --> 00:38:58,786
Speaker 1: who's gonna make it most comfortable for you. Correct. I

765
00:38:58,786 --> 00:39:01,706
Speaker 1: think the other thing too, was I've learned quickly it's

766
00:39:02,546 --> 00:39:04,746
Speaker 1: you have to do this. You know, you gotta have

767
00:39:04,746 --> 00:39:07,306
Speaker 1: a criteria. It's for the head coach, if it's for

768
00:39:07,386 --> 00:39:10,586
Speaker 1: a player or even decision making, and you gotta believe

769
00:39:10,586 --> 00:39:12,146
Speaker 1: in that and you gotta act on it. You know,

770
00:39:12,186 --> 00:39:14,866
Speaker 1: a lot of times there the noise from the outside

771
00:39:14,906 --> 00:39:16,826
Speaker 1: is telling you to do one thing or the other

772
00:39:16,946 --> 00:39:20,266
Speaker 1: or what's popular. You gotta do what's right for the

773
00:39:20,306 --> 00:39:23,466
Speaker 1: football team and what's right and what matches the philosophy

774
00:39:23,506 --> 00:39:26,106
Speaker 1: that you think is gonna win, because at the end

775
00:39:26,146 --> 00:39:28,986
Speaker 1: of the day, you know, sometimes decisions look great the

776
00:39:29,066 --> 00:39:30,986
Speaker 1: day that you make them, but it's really how how

777
00:39:30,986 --> 00:39:32,866
Speaker 1: does the playout. That's how you're gonna be judged at

778
00:39:32,906 --> 00:39:36,626
Speaker 1: the end of the day. So um, I love my

779
00:39:36,666 --> 00:39:40,466
Speaker 1: interview with Matt. You know, the leadership. I talked about

780
00:39:40,466 --> 00:39:42,346
Speaker 1: it all the time because I have to the emotional

781
00:39:42,386 --> 00:39:45,906
Speaker 1: intelligence to be demanding but also love guys up to

782
00:39:45,986 --> 00:39:48,906
Speaker 1: let them know that you're demanding for a reason. What

783
00:39:48,946 --> 00:39:50,666
Speaker 1: does that mean? I think that's such an important thing,

784
00:39:50,786 --> 00:39:54,346
Speaker 1: especially in two in the way that we're mental health

785
00:39:54,346 --> 00:39:56,346
Speaker 1: plays a bigger role, I think in the conversation. And

786
00:39:56,466 --> 00:39:58,426
Speaker 1: we know when we grew up, coaches were not as

787
00:39:58,466 --> 00:40:00,826
Speaker 1: warm and fuzzy as these coaches. But Matt's not a

788
00:40:00,826 --> 00:40:02,706
Speaker 1: warm and fuzzy guy. But you also see that the

789
00:40:02,706 --> 00:40:05,986
Speaker 1: players love playing for him. Maybe the compassion is what

790
00:40:06,066 --> 00:40:07,906
Speaker 1: is what it's there and just say what does that

791
00:40:07,946 --> 00:40:11,866
Speaker 1: mean to you? And I think as we move along here,

792
00:40:12,706 --> 00:40:16,026
Speaker 1: the athletes coming in from college, they think a little

793
00:40:16,026 --> 00:40:18,186
Speaker 1: bit differently than what we thought. I just when I

794
00:40:18,266 --> 00:40:20,786
Speaker 1: was coaching you, you did what you were told to do.

795
00:40:20,866 --> 00:40:22,906
Speaker 1: You didn't ask why, But now you have to give

796
00:40:22,906 --> 00:40:25,586
Speaker 1: the why. You know, why are we doing what we're doing.

797
00:40:25,586 --> 00:40:27,986
Speaker 1: Why are we practicing so hard? Why are we practicing

798
00:40:28,066 --> 00:40:31,906
Speaker 1: lighter um? Why are we fanatical about, you know, punching

799
00:40:31,906 --> 00:40:33,706
Speaker 1: the ball out and things like that. Well, we're gonna

800
00:40:33,706 --> 00:40:37,186
Speaker 1: give statistics about turnovers and how they leave the win wins.

801
00:40:37,346 --> 00:40:40,666
Speaker 1: So he does a really nice job laying everything out,

802
00:40:40,706 --> 00:40:42,826
Speaker 1: but what we want to be, what our standards are,

803
00:40:42,946 --> 00:40:44,706
Speaker 1: and then the why behind it and how it's gonna

804
00:40:44,706 --> 00:40:47,986
Speaker 1: make us successful not only now but but down the road.

805
00:40:48,026 --> 00:40:50,786
Speaker 1: So his ability to tie that together is it's outstanding.

806
00:40:50,906 --> 00:40:53,946
Speaker 1: It's genuine. I love our team meetings, every team meeting

807
00:40:54,026 --> 00:40:55,786
Speaker 1: is I wish I could take all of them because

808
00:40:56,186 --> 00:40:58,346
Speaker 1: he's a special guy in front of the room and

809
00:40:58,386 --> 00:41:01,786
Speaker 1: it's authentic, it's real, it's not fluffy. You walk out

810
00:41:01,826 --> 00:41:04,786
Speaker 1: with direction. Everyone has a direction when they leave and

811
00:41:04,826 --> 00:41:07,506
Speaker 1: they feel good about it. It's funny because your team

812
00:41:07,546 --> 00:41:09,546
Speaker 1: is not necessarily the top of the standings. But I

813
00:41:09,586 --> 00:41:13,146
Speaker 1: think there's a universal, like good vibe around the Bears

814
00:41:13,266 --> 00:41:15,706
Speaker 1: right now, and that includes a very critical fan base

815
00:41:15,706 --> 00:41:18,866
Speaker 1: that has been through a lot of different tenures and

816
00:41:18,906 --> 00:41:21,666
Speaker 1: a lot of different down years. But like even the

817
00:41:21,746 --> 00:41:23,906
Speaker 1: loss to Detroit and we could go through all that

818
00:41:23,906 --> 00:41:26,026
Speaker 1: that that we're coming out of, it's like, yeah, we lost,

819
00:41:26,066 --> 00:41:28,626
Speaker 1: but gosh, that was there were some moments and I

820
00:41:28,666 --> 00:41:31,266
Speaker 1: think I would be doing the fans are great disservice

821
00:41:31,266 --> 00:41:34,386
Speaker 1: if I didn't just ask the leaps and bounds that

822
00:41:34,466 --> 00:41:36,986
Speaker 1: Justin Fields has taken over the last few weeks. I'd

823
00:41:36,986 --> 00:41:38,866
Speaker 1: say coming out of the bye week and that New

824
00:41:38,906 --> 00:41:41,666
Speaker 1: England game was really the kickstart. UM. I know you're

825
00:41:41,706 --> 00:41:44,106
Speaker 1: the general manager. You might not want to speak necessarily

826
00:41:44,106 --> 00:41:46,626
Speaker 1: too much in the weeds, but you gotta admit this

827
00:41:46,666 --> 00:41:49,346
Speaker 1: has been a sensation the last month of football. Yeah,

828
00:41:49,386 --> 00:41:52,106
Speaker 1: I think you got a compartmentalize and things like obviously,

829
00:41:53,266 --> 00:41:55,346
Speaker 1: like if you talk to me if this was yesterday,

830
00:41:55,386 --> 00:41:58,426
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been very like fun to talk to. UM.

831
00:41:58,626 --> 00:42:02,506
Speaker 1: We expect to win games. That's our standard. UM So

832
00:42:02,706 --> 00:42:06,186
Speaker 1: just kind of being Okay, we're losing. It is really

833
00:42:06,186 --> 00:42:08,986
Speaker 1: not gonna fly around here. But you do have to

834
00:42:09,026 --> 00:42:10,986
Speaker 1: take the time to look at the little victories that

835
00:42:11,026 --> 00:42:13,906
Speaker 1: you do have. UM, and Justin's one of them. Justin's

836
00:42:13,946 --> 00:42:17,506
Speaker 1: playing really, really well. I give credit to him buying in.

837
00:42:18,026 --> 00:42:20,826
Speaker 1: I mean that this dude works his butt off. He

838
00:42:20,946 --> 00:42:24,946
Speaker 1: puts time into it. So to get results, um, you know,

839
00:42:25,106 --> 00:42:29,266
Speaker 1: on individual performance and as an offense, UM means a

840
00:42:29,306 --> 00:42:32,306
Speaker 1: lot to me, to him, to our coaching staff. I

841
00:42:32,306 --> 00:42:34,026
Speaker 1: think a lot of credit needs to go to get

842
00:42:34,066 --> 00:42:36,986
Speaker 1: to as well. I mean, he adjusted, he adapted to

843
00:42:37,266 --> 00:42:40,746
Speaker 1: strengths and weaknesses, and he is able to put together

844
00:42:40,906 --> 00:42:43,546
Speaker 1: some really good performance by our you know, by our offense,

845
00:42:43,586 --> 00:42:46,586
Speaker 1: and we're continue to get better and we're learning about

846
00:42:46,626 --> 00:42:48,266
Speaker 1: what we have and the guys that we have. And

847
00:42:48,706 --> 00:42:50,826
Speaker 1: we have a young team, so it's exciting to see

848
00:42:50,826 --> 00:42:54,186
Speaker 1: the direction that we're going. Your first big decision during

849
00:42:54,186 --> 00:42:56,746
Speaker 1: the season, of course, was the ro Quan trade. It's

850
00:42:56,826 --> 00:42:58,866
Speaker 1: very well documented, You've spoken on it. It was one

851
00:42:58,906 --> 00:43:01,466
Speaker 1: of those deals where, from what I'm putting words in

852
00:43:01,466 --> 00:43:03,066
Speaker 1: your mouth, you love the player, but there was an

853
00:43:03,066 --> 00:43:05,386
Speaker 1: impast with with what was going to happen, so let's

854
00:43:05,386 --> 00:43:08,866
Speaker 1: get some picks in exchange. When you make that decision,

855
00:43:09,146 --> 00:43:10,546
Speaker 1: is that one of those where you say, I gotta

856
00:43:10,546 --> 00:43:12,506
Speaker 1: block out the noise with the fans like you were saying,

857
00:43:12,586 --> 00:43:14,346
Speaker 1: and just do what's best for this team, and I

858
00:43:14,426 --> 00:43:16,946
Speaker 1: wish the player the best moving forward. Yeah, And that's

859
00:43:17,026 --> 00:43:20,066
Speaker 1: that's the tough part about this this position is you

860
00:43:20,226 --> 00:43:25,666
Speaker 1: constantly have to balance today versus down the rope um

861
00:43:26,346 --> 00:43:28,786
Speaker 1: and a lot of times those decisions are gray. You know,

862
00:43:28,866 --> 00:43:32,586
Speaker 1: they're there, it's not black and white. It's not easy. So, um,

863
00:43:32,666 --> 00:43:34,306
Speaker 1: we really took a lot of time with that. We

864
00:43:34,386 --> 00:43:35,946
Speaker 1: just felt like it was in the best interest too

865
00:43:36,746 --> 00:43:40,226
Speaker 1: to do something now that could benefit our team moving forward. Um.

866
00:43:40,266 --> 00:43:43,666
Speaker 1: It is really really difficult, you know, to move a

867
00:43:43,706 --> 00:43:46,706
Speaker 1: guy that's a leader in your locker room. Um. But again,

868
00:43:46,706 --> 00:43:48,226
Speaker 1: that's why I have this job, as I gonna make

869
00:43:48,226 --> 00:43:51,026
Speaker 1: hard decisions that I hope we'll benefit our team for

870
00:43:51,026 --> 00:43:54,506
Speaker 1: a long time. So we did that and and you

871
00:43:54,546 --> 00:43:57,706
Speaker 1: know that helped us acquire Chase, you know, Claypool, who's

872
00:43:57,746 --> 00:44:01,186
Speaker 1: coming along as learning offense right now, and um, again

873
00:44:01,226 --> 00:44:03,986
Speaker 1: that should enhance our offense, enhance you know, our quarterback

874
00:44:04,026 --> 00:44:07,146
Speaker 1: and get our team better as we move along. You're

875
00:44:07,186 --> 00:44:09,746
Speaker 1: the youngest GM in the league. Um, A lot of

876
00:44:09,746 --> 00:44:13,506
Speaker 1: people look at you and say, hey, that's the path forward.

877
00:44:13,546 --> 00:44:15,186
Speaker 1: There there there is a place for me in the

878
00:44:15,266 --> 00:44:17,506
Speaker 1: NFL on that level, on that executive level. That's a

879
00:44:17,906 --> 00:44:19,946
Speaker 1: that's a that's a heavy burden for you to say, Hey,

880
00:44:19,986 --> 00:44:22,586
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, you know, start setting the path for a

881
00:44:22,586 --> 00:44:24,386
Speaker 1: lot of people who are younger than me and saying

882
00:44:24,466 --> 00:44:26,746
Speaker 1: this is this is possible. You can do this. You

883
00:44:26,786 --> 00:44:29,226
Speaker 1: can be an NFL general manager. If you've got an elevator,

884
00:44:29,306 --> 00:44:32,666
Speaker 1: say it at the combine with a twenty five year

885
00:44:32,666 --> 00:44:35,346
Speaker 1: old man or woman who looks at you and says, Ryan,

886
00:44:35,506 --> 00:44:37,786
Speaker 1: what would be your piece of advice if I want

887
00:44:37,786 --> 00:44:40,226
Speaker 1: to get into this profession and I want to someday

888
00:44:40,226 --> 00:44:42,586
Speaker 1: be where you're at, what would be your learning lesson

889
00:44:42,586 --> 00:44:44,546
Speaker 1: and what would be your you know, your elevator speech

890
00:44:44,546 --> 00:44:47,986
Speaker 1: for them? Yeah, I think it would be you gotta

891
00:44:48,026 --> 00:44:50,866
Speaker 1: send your foundation up um to me. If I didn't

892
00:44:50,866 --> 00:44:53,226
Speaker 1: have the experience I had as a graduate assistant at

893
00:44:53,266 --> 00:44:56,226
Speaker 1: at Boston College, I wouldn't be here today. If I

894
00:44:56,266 --> 00:44:59,266
Speaker 1: didn't have to grind and do hard things as a

895
00:44:59,266 --> 00:45:04,506
Speaker 1: scouting assistant. I mean running, get coffee, airport runs. I'm

896
00:45:04,546 --> 00:45:07,586
Speaker 1: learning how to multitask because you had It's crazy. I

897
00:45:07,586 --> 00:45:10,106
Speaker 1: think back to it, which is nuts because I I

898
00:45:10,146 --> 00:45:12,986
Speaker 1: had to hire my first scouting assistance and I had

899
00:45:13,026 --> 00:45:16,146
Speaker 1: this like flashback of when I was hired in Kansas City.

900
00:45:16,186 --> 00:45:19,346
Speaker 1: But you know, I want them to be able to multitask.

901
00:45:19,586 --> 00:45:21,266
Speaker 1: You know, you have a lot of things you have

902
00:45:21,346 --> 00:45:23,746
Speaker 1: to do, but you also have these responsibilities like airport

903
00:45:23,826 --> 00:45:27,426
Speaker 1: runs and waiting at a doctor's office for physical to end.

904
00:45:27,466 --> 00:45:29,746
Speaker 1: And you learned quickly, well, if I'm sitting at the

905
00:45:29,786 --> 00:45:32,226
Speaker 1: doctor's office, I probably bring my computer and I can

906
00:45:32,266 --> 00:45:35,706
Speaker 1: knock out, yeah, three tasks while I'm there. And you

907
00:45:35,786 --> 00:45:38,546
Speaker 1: learn a multitask and juggle different things and then you

908
00:45:38,626 --> 00:45:41,386
Speaker 1: fast forward to where I am today. It is I

909
00:45:41,386 --> 00:45:44,306
Speaker 1: mean it is you juggle, man, You juggle a lot

910
00:45:44,546 --> 00:45:47,626
Speaker 1: and um, but you gotta do it with detail. You

911
00:45:47,706 --> 00:45:50,026
Speaker 1: gotta do you know, I gotta be dependable to everyone

912
00:45:50,066 --> 00:45:52,266
Speaker 1: else so they can trust you and I can trust

913
00:45:52,266 --> 00:45:55,506
Speaker 1: everyone else. So UM, set that foundation up and don't

914
00:45:55,546 --> 00:45:58,746
Speaker 1: be afraid to do hard things that really gives you

915
00:45:58,786 --> 00:46:01,866
Speaker 1: those galluses so that you can withstand you can take

916
00:46:01,906 --> 00:46:05,946
Speaker 1: on more as you grew up and go through the ranks. So, um,

917
00:46:06,466 --> 00:46:09,586
Speaker 1: that's kind of the pitch I would give to set

918
00:46:09,626 --> 00:46:11,826
Speaker 1: that foundation for sure. I got a couple more of

919
00:46:11,826 --> 00:46:15,106
Speaker 1: them and let you go. Sunday, I'm watching the game

920
00:46:15,186 --> 00:46:19,346
Speaker 1: and there's an undrafted free agent at a Wisconsin Jack Sandborn,

921
00:46:19,586 --> 00:46:22,626
Speaker 1: a linebacker just all over the field, wearing fifty seven.

922
00:46:22,626 --> 00:46:25,186
Speaker 1: I'm looking up on my media guide, I'm like, where

923
00:46:25,186 --> 00:46:28,026
Speaker 1: did he go? Oh, Wisconsin? I remember that name. You

924
00:46:28,066 --> 00:46:30,866
Speaker 1: see a guy like that, an undrafted guy is do

925
00:46:30,906 --> 00:46:33,306
Speaker 1: you get more of a reward at a scene that

926
00:46:33,386 --> 00:46:35,746
Speaker 1: happened on the field or when it's the first round

927
00:46:35,746 --> 00:46:37,906
Speaker 1: pick having success or is it all equal to you?

928
00:46:37,946 --> 00:46:39,586
Speaker 1: At this point as a general manager, I feel like

929
00:46:39,586 --> 00:46:41,626
Speaker 1: there's gotta be some great pride in being like, yeah,

930
00:46:41,706 --> 00:46:43,626
Speaker 1: we got that guy to sign here, we liked him

931
00:46:43,626 --> 00:46:46,026
Speaker 1: out of college, and he's making making an impact as

932
00:46:46,026 --> 00:46:48,706
Speaker 1: a rookie. That's pretty cool to see. Yeah, I think,

933
00:46:49,226 --> 00:46:51,346
Speaker 1: you know, as undrafted free agent, to see those guys

934
00:46:51,386 --> 00:46:53,946
Speaker 1: kind of rise up and get opportunities and take advantage

935
00:46:53,986 --> 00:46:55,826
Speaker 1: of him is one of the more exciting things that

936
00:46:55,866 --> 00:46:59,226
Speaker 1: we could do as a general manager, because as you

937
00:46:59,226 --> 00:47:02,306
Speaker 1: go through the draft and you're evaluating, you're really honing

938
00:47:02,346 --> 00:47:04,626
Speaker 1: in on just a couple of traits. You know, I

939
00:47:04,666 --> 00:47:09,026
Speaker 1: knew Sandborne's variant. Thank you for player. UM. So you

940
00:47:09,146 --> 00:47:12,506
Speaker 1: you bring in your building and you watch him develop

941
00:47:12,586 --> 00:47:14,506
Speaker 1: and then he gets an opportunity. That's why, like over

942
00:47:14,506 --> 00:47:16,266
Speaker 1: the last few years, I've learned not to freak out

943
00:47:16,386 --> 00:47:21,026
Speaker 1: from you know, injuries or trades because sometimes behind the

944
00:47:21,066 --> 00:47:24,106
Speaker 1: door there's some really cool things that happened and guys developed.

945
00:47:24,706 --> 00:47:27,666
Speaker 1: UM and Jack's on his way, man, I mean that

946
00:47:27,786 --> 00:47:33,746
Speaker 1: last game he was everywhere. UM, two sacks, double digit tackles,

947
00:47:34,226 --> 00:47:36,386
Speaker 1: should have had an interception, should have had to pick.

948
00:47:36,426 --> 00:47:38,426
Speaker 1: We will talk about it. The league is very sensitive,

949
00:47:38,506 --> 00:47:42,666
Speaker 1: UM kidding area. UM. So I love seeing you know,

950
00:47:42,746 --> 00:47:45,066
Speaker 1: those things and those guys stand out. So I'm pumped

951
00:47:45,066 --> 00:47:48,626
Speaker 1: for him and the direction he's going. Alright, Historically you

952
00:47:48,626 --> 00:47:51,066
Speaker 1: mentioned my homes when you were on the road doing

953
00:47:51,106 --> 00:47:53,026
Speaker 1: the college things, like we talked about this we're talking

954
00:47:53,066 --> 00:47:55,906
Speaker 1: about with Shane and I always talked about with these gm. Um.

955
00:47:56,306 --> 00:47:59,266
Speaker 1: Sometimes there's that player that like your eyes linked up with,

956
00:47:59,386 --> 00:48:01,466
Speaker 1: and then the draft comes around and you're sitting in

957
00:48:01,826 --> 00:48:04,506
Speaker 1: John Dorrise's office or you're sitting in Brett Beach's office

958
00:48:04,506 --> 00:48:06,826
Speaker 1: and it's fourth fifth round talk and it's like, this

959
00:48:06,866 --> 00:48:08,946
Speaker 1: is my guy. I'm gonna bang the table. Was there

960
00:48:08,986 --> 00:48:11,826
Speaker 1: a bang the table guy for you in Kansas City

961
00:48:11,826 --> 00:48:14,066
Speaker 1: that you go back on You're like, hey, that was

962
00:48:14,146 --> 00:48:17,106
Speaker 1: my dude, And you know, whether he panned out or not,

963
00:48:17,266 --> 00:48:19,466
Speaker 1: there was a guy that you really were like, I'm

964
00:48:19,466 --> 00:48:22,786
Speaker 1: gonna be as biggest advocate in the room. UM. I

965
00:48:22,826 --> 00:48:25,586
Speaker 1: would say, it's hard to like put your finger out

966
00:48:25,586 --> 00:48:30,386
Speaker 1: like one player over the years. But I think one

967
00:48:30,386 --> 00:48:31,986
Speaker 1: of the things that I take a lot of problem

968
00:48:32,026 --> 00:48:36,546
Speaker 1: being a part of UM was going from losing the

969
00:48:36,546 --> 00:48:40,226
Speaker 1: Super Bowl against Tampa UM and PA getting pressured all

970
00:48:40,226 --> 00:48:42,746
Speaker 1: the time, and then sitting down as a group with

971
00:48:42,866 --> 00:48:46,626
Speaker 1: Beach and Borganzi and tell Us and Bradway and being like,

972
00:48:46,706 --> 00:48:50,546
Speaker 1: we can never let that happen again. And and then

973
00:48:50,586 --> 00:48:53,946
Speaker 1: going to work and coming away with Tray Smith, Creed Humphrey,

974
00:48:54,066 --> 00:48:59,146
Speaker 1: Joe Tuney, Orlando Brown, you know, and flipping that thing

975
00:48:59,306 --> 00:49:02,306
Speaker 1: quick in all those overnight like literally one offseason, you

976
00:49:02,306 --> 00:49:04,906
Speaker 1: guys went from the you know, this is the Achilles

977
00:49:04,986 --> 00:49:06,266
Speaker 1: hild the team to be in one of the strengths

978
00:49:06,306 --> 00:49:08,386
Speaker 1: of a team, right and I think we really leaned down,

979
00:49:08,426 --> 00:49:10,026
Speaker 1: like what do we stand for? Like what do you

980
00:49:10,066 --> 00:49:12,026
Speaker 1: want that group to look and feel? Like? Those dudes

981
00:49:12,066 --> 00:49:16,226
Speaker 1: are smart, tough, and dependable. Um So, really just taking

982
00:49:16,266 --> 00:49:20,346
Speaker 1: your values using free agency, trade and draft in the

983
00:49:20,346 --> 00:49:22,426
Speaker 1: beginning and the end and kind of putting that thing

984
00:49:22,466 --> 00:49:25,586
Speaker 1: together was a huge accomplishment that I thought was like

985
00:49:26,106 --> 00:49:28,186
Speaker 1: the bowl on the on the top for me leaving.

986
00:49:28,586 --> 00:49:31,146
Speaker 1: Not only that, I my last game was that Buffalo game,

987
00:49:31,266 --> 00:49:34,706
Speaker 1: but like, yeah, that that was really cool walking away

988
00:49:34,706 --> 00:49:39,346
Speaker 1: from at least being a part of that. You're beloved

989
00:49:39,346 --> 00:49:41,066
Speaker 1: in Kansas City. I mean I talked to all those

990
00:49:41,106 --> 00:49:43,946
Speaker 1: guys and it's still like, you know, and now Chicago

991
00:49:44,106 --> 00:49:46,906
Speaker 1: is starting to get to know why you are the

992
00:49:46,986 --> 00:49:49,346
Speaker 1: badass that you are and you make decisions and you

993
00:49:49,426 --> 00:49:51,186
Speaker 1: go for it and you go with your gut, but

994
00:49:51,226 --> 00:49:53,946
Speaker 1: you do it backed on research. As we wrap this,

995
00:49:54,026 --> 00:49:56,106
Speaker 1: if you have one message to Bears fans as we

996
00:49:56,146 --> 00:49:58,146
Speaker 1: head towards the final months of the season and then

997
00:49:58,146 --> 00:50:01,786
Speaker 1: of course your first official big off season where it's Hey,

998
00:50:01,866 --> 00:50:04,546
Speaker 1: I'm running point on everything and it's my guys in

999
00:50:04,586 --> 00:50:07,666
Speaker 1: those decisions of power, decision and all that. What would

1000
00:50:07,666 --> 00:50:09,386
Speaker 1: be your message to the fan base who is just

1001
00:50:09,506 --> 00:50:12,786
Speaker 1: thirsting for Bears football to be on top once again. Yeah, well,

1002
00:50:12,826 --> 00:50:14,786
Speaker 1: first I gotta just correct you a little bit. I'll

1003
00:50:14,826 --> 00:50:17,426
Speaker 1: say this. You know, the biggest part of me is

1004
00:50:17,466 --> 00:50:20,146
Speaker 1: it's not just about me. It's it's my crew. I

1005
00:50:20,146 --> 00:50:22,706
Speaker 1: got an unbelievable group of scout who's the crew, Let's

1006
00:50:22,706 --> 00:50:24,306
Speaker 1: shout him out? Who we got you? I don't even

1007
00:50:24,346 --> 00:50:25,986
Speaker 1: know you're I don't even know who you brought with me?

1008
00:50:26,146 --> 00:50:30,866
Speaker 1: And Cunningham who was it? The Giants? Right, Eagles with

1009
00:50:30,946 --> 00:50:37,146
Speaker 1: Philly in Baltimore. Um, Jeff King who's been here, he

1010
00:50:37,266 --> 00:50:42,626
Speaker 1: was a player, Love Jeff Trey Cozy, Carolina Panther, Jeff King, Yeah, yeah, okay,

1011
00:50:42,866 --> 00:50:46,266
Speaker 1: Tray cozil Um. Those are kind of my my top

1012
00:50:46,306 --> 00:50:49,146
Speaker 1: cabinet there. Matt Finstein who worked in the league. He

1013
00:50:49,186 --> 00:50:52,146
Speaker 1: house with Cap and at cliff Stein. So that's kind

1014
00:50:52,146 --> 00:50:54,386
Speaker 1: of my main cabinet, and a bunch of really good

1015
00:50:54,426 --> 00:50:57,346
Speaker 1: scouts under them as well. So it's not just about me,

1016
00:50:57,426 --> 00:50:59,466
Speaker 1: but in terms of this program getting to where it

1017
00:50:59,506 --> 00:51:03,026
Speaker 1: needs to go. Listen, there's a lot of really cool

1018
00:51:03,026 --> 00:51:06,346
Speaker 1: stuff going on. I'm we're all about winning here, So

1019
00:51:06,426 --> 00:51:09,266
Speaker 1: it stinks not having more wins and we've been close,

1020
00:51:09,386 --> 00:51:11,986
Speaker 1: but there's progress being made. We're bringing the right people

1021
00:51:12,066 --> 00:51:16,826
Speaker 1: or quarterbacks developing. Um. So I'm excited and just know

1022
00:51:16,946 --> 00:51:19,786
Speaker 1: that this group, like I said, our coaching staff, our

1023
00:51:19,826 --> 00:51:24,146
Speaker 1: front office were relentless in acquiring talent and development players.

1024
00:51:24,186 --> 00:51:27,386
Speaker 1: So it's gonna come together. I'm excited about it. You know,

1025
00:51:27,466 --> 00:51:30,626
Speaker 1: the future is right and we're gonna get this this

1026
00:51:30,746 --> 00:51:34,546
Speaker 1: place cranked up. So you know what I liked. I

1027
00:51:34,626 --> 00:51:38,106
Speaker 1: like seeing r Lacker involved. I like seeing Lance Briggs

1028
00:51:38,186 --> 00:51:39,826
Speaker 1: get it like a little bit of a I know

1029
00:51:39,986 --> 00:51:43,066
Speaker 1: Peanuts gonna be like that's my heir, and I know

1030
00:51:43,146 --> 00:51:44,946
Speaker 1: it's I know there was the eighty five Bears, and

1031
00:51:44,986 --> 00:51:46,946
Speaker 1: I almost always say this on Good Morning Football. I

1032
00:51:47,026 --> 00:51:50,786
Speaker 1: like Bears fans deserve like you know, because eighty five

1033
00:51:50,826 --> 00:51:53,186
Speaker 1: is a long time ago now, right, And I have

1034
00:51:53,346 --> 00:51:56,426
Speaker 1: a certain sentiment for that oh six super Bowl team.

1035
00:51:56,426 --> 00:51:58,466
Speaker 1: And I love Erlacker and Tillman they both worked with

1036
00:51:58,466 --> 00:52:00,186
Speaker 1: me at Fox and love those guys. And I actually

1037
00:52:00,186 --> 00:52:01,746
Speaker 1: got to know Cutty pretty well and he's a cool

1038
00:52:01,826 --> 00:52:06,786
Speaker 1: dude also. But like there's like a youthful exuber into

1039
00:52:06,786 --> 00:52:08,346
Speaker 1: this Bears team, and I think it starts with you

1040
00:52:08,386 --> 00:52:11,786
Speaker 1: and Matt obviously, but from the quarterback on down, Dude,

1041
00:52:11,786 --> 00:52:14,146
Speaker 1: I think the Bears are in good hands. And I

1042
00:52:14,186 --> 00:52:16,346
Speaker 1: can't thank you enough for joining us during the season

1043
00:52:16,346 --> 00:52:19,066
Speaker 1: and and doing our podcast to kind of give the

1044
00:52:19,066 --> 00:52:21,746
Speaker 1: the blueprint on how the Monsters of the Midway return

1045
00:52:22,066 --> 00:52:24,146
Speaker 1: to dominance in the NFC North. It feels like you

1046
00:52:24,226 --> 00:52:27,026
Speaker 1: was just yesterday. We're at Mikado Sushi. Huh do you

1047
00:52:27,066 --> 00:52:28,786
Speaker 1: want to do? We want to talk about it because

1048
00:52:29,106 --> 00:52:31,506
Speaker 1: this is where it all begins to get to the

1049
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Speaker 1: color episode. Okay, So at the combine I mentioned this.

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00:52:38,746 --> 00:52:40,786
Speaker 1: I got breakfast with Joe Shane a few years ago

1051
00:52:40,786 --> 00:52:43,426
Speaker 1: at Patache, which is like the breakfast spot. But we

1052
00:52:43,466 --> 00:52:44,946
Speaker 1: had a table and I don't know if we want

1053
00:52:44,946 --> 00:52:46,386
Speaker 1: to go the names, but each was there a bunch

1054
00:52:46,386 --> 00:52:48,226
Speaker 1: of the Chiefs guys, and you and I hit it off.

1055
00:52:48,266 --> 00:52:51,706
Speaker 1: And it was at a sushi restaurant in Indianapolis, Mikado,

1056
00:52:52,386 --> 00:52:55,506
Speaker 1: a landlocked city that I don't think has probably the

1057
00:52:55,586 --> 00:52:58,306
Speaker 1: best access to good sushi. Yet I was stuffing my

1058
00:52:58,386 --> 00:53:00,906
Speaker 1: face with that yellowtail. Bro. You were probably a little

1059
00:53:00,946 --> 00:53:04,306
Speaker 1: disgusted with how I went. I went to town Um,

1060
00:53:04,346 --> 00:53:05,906
Speaker 1: but you and I hit it off and I'm so

1061
00:53:05,946 --> 00:53:07,666
Speaker 1: proud of you. You're doing all this stuff now and

1062
00:53:08,386 --> 00:53:10,626
Speaker 1: Chicago isn't in any better hands and than having you

1063
00:53:10,706 --> 00:53:15,706
Speaker 1: at the grips, no problem. Awesome, Ryan Paul's the season

1064
00:53:15,746 --> 00:53:19,826
Speaker 1: with Peter Schreeger. Thank you for joining us. Bro. How

1065
00:53:19,826 --> 00:53:22,826
Speaker 1: good is Ryan Poles? Aaron? I mean that was that.

1066
00:53:22,946 --> 00:53:25,426
Speaker 1: Dude is the real deal. When you listen to him talk,

1067
00:53:25,506 --> 00:53:27,066
Speaker 1: do you not feel like the Chicago Bears are in

1068
00:53:27,106 --> 00:53:29,906
Speaker 1: great hands? It makes me more excited for them. Yeah,

1069
00:53:30,026 --> 00:53:32,746
Speaker 1: it's been great watching them and then just hearing him

1070
00:53:32,786 --> 00:53:34,746
Speaker 1: talk about the vibe with the whole team and the

1071
00:53:34,786 --> 00:53:37,226
Speaker 1: coaching staff. I love it. He's learned from some of

1072
00:53:37,226 --> 00:53:39,826
Speaker 1: the greats, um and he's been made smarter by some

1073
00:53:39,906 --> 00:53:42,066
Speaker 1: of the greats. And that's a great segue to our

1074
00:53:42,066 --> 00:53:44,226
Speaker 1: next segment. We do a segment on this podcast called

1075
00:53:44,266 --> 00:53:47,066
Speaker 1: make Me Smarter. I have amazing access to some of

1076
00:53:47,106 --> 00:53:49,426
Speaker 1: the smartest minds in football, and a lot of them

1077
00:53:49,466 --> 00:53:53,106
Speaker 1: work for the NFL Network research team. One of them

1078
00:53:53,186 --> 00:53:56,426
Speaker 1: is the great Taylor Kyle's I get Taylor's emails a lot,

1079
00:53:56,506 --> 00:53:58,586
Speaker 1: and I use a lot of that content on air,

1080
00:53:58,666 --> 00:54:01,266
Speaker 1: and it helps make me sounds smarter on television. But

1081
00:54:01,306 --> 00:54:04,066
Speaker 1: It also helps describe the game in a different way

1082
00:54:04,346 --> 00:54:08,346
Speaker 1: than just listing stats their historic perspective. There's insight and

1083
00:54:08,386 --> 00:54:11,106
Speaker 1: there's a lot of opinion as well. With no further ado.

1084
00:54:11,346 --> 00:54:15,026
Speaker 1: This week's guest on Make Me Smarter, Mr Taylor Kyle's Taylor,

1085
00:54:15,026 --> 00:54:17,586
Speaker 1: what's up man, I'm excited to be here. Peter, thank

1086
00:54:17,626 --> 00:54:19,946
Speaker 1: you so much for having me. Man, you are great

1087
00:54:20,066 --> 00:54:21,786
Speaker 1: at what you do and we've got to give you

1088
00:54:21,866 --> 00:54:25,626
Speaker 1: some love on the season with Peter Schrager. And I

1089
00:54:25,666 --> 00:54:28,506
Speaker 1: asked this to to you and to to Aaron when

1090
00:54:28,586 --> 00:54:31,986
Speaker 1: I started this week's prep, I'm like, all right, now

1091
00:54:32,026 --> 00:54:34,906
Speaker 1: there's there's unit. It seems more like unanimous that Justin

1092
00:54:34,986 --> 00:54:37,706
Speaker 1: Jefferson is that dude. He's the number one receiver. And

1093
00:54:37,706 --> 00:54:40,706
Speaker 1: then we go through all these historical things and it's like,

1094
00:54:41,066 --> 00:54:42,666
Speaker 1: all right, no one has done more in his first

1095
00:54:42,666 --> 00:54:45,306
Speaker 1: three years and this guy, no one has had, you know,

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00:54:45,306 --> 00:54:49,546
Speaker 1: a greater first two years. Make me smarter? Just how

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00:54:49,666 --> 00:54:54,666
Speaker 1: historically amazing is Justin Jefferson two and a half seasons

1098
00:54:54,706 --> 00:54:57,986
Speaker 1: into his NFL career. Alright, So if we're going by

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00:54:57,986 --> 00:55:00,066
Speaker 1: the numbers, all right, there's a lot of really big

1100
00:55:00,146 --> 00:55:02,466
Speaker 1: names that he's on list with. So you want to

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00:55:02,466 --> 00:55:05,386
Speaker 1: look at most receiving yards per game all time, you

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00:55:05,466 --> 00:55:10,146
Speaker 1: got Justin Jeffery Sen above Julio Calvin, Jamaar Chase another

1103
00:55:10,226 --> 00:55:13,546
Speaker 1: young stud obviously l s U teammate, and Antonio Brown.

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Speaker 1: Then you get most receiving yards in his first forty

1105
00:55:16,506 --> 00:55:19,546
Speaker 1: two games. Only person who's had more the great Odell

1106
00:55:19,546 --> 00:55:22,426
Speaker 1: Beckham Jr. And then Justin Jefferson is right behind him.

1107
00:55:22,506 --> 00:55:24,746
Speaker 1: And then most games with the hundred plus yards and

1108
00:55:24,786 --> 00:55:29,546
Speaker 1: a player's first three seasons since he got Justin Jefferson

1109
00:55:29,626 --> 00:55:33,386
Speaker 1: above Randy Moss oh b J again, and then there's

1110
00:55:33,426 --> 00:55:36,706
Speaker 1: four guys tied right behind them. So I mean he's, uh,

1111
00:55:36,866 --> 00:55:39,666
Speaker 1: he's doing pretty well, I'd say in his first few seasons. Yeah.

1112
00:55:39,786 --> 00:55:43,226
Speaker 1: And then Sunday's performance is like National TV. If you

1113
00:55:43,266 --> 00:55:46,266
Speaker 1: hadn't watched him do all this work on these vikings

1114
00:55:46,306 --> 00:55:48,466
Speaker 1: teams that weren't playoff squads the last two years, you're

1115
00:55:48,506 --> 00:55:50,746
Speaker 1: now seeing him do it on an eight in one

1116
00:55:50,826 --> 00:55:53,586
Speaker 1: squad putting up these numbers. What do you see personally

1117
00:55:53,626 --> 00:55:55,186
Speaker 1: as a student of the game, what do you see

1118
00:55:55,426 --> 00:55:57,306
Speaker 1: that makes him so special? And what are his skills?

1119
00:55:57,466 --> 00:56:00,066
Speaker 1: Because he's not he's not Calvin Johnson. He's not six

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00:56:00,066 --> 00:56:02,866
Speaker 1: ft six and he's not Randy Moss running a four

1121
00:56:02,906 --> 00:56:06,346
Speaker 1: to forty out there, right. So really, what it is

1122
00:56:06,506 --> 00:56:09,266
Speaker 1: is it's impossible to get this guy at the line

1123
00:56:09,306 --> 00:56:11,266
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. The only time you're really going to be

1124
00:56:11,346 --> 00:56:13,626
Speaker 1: competitive with Justin Jefferson is if you get your hands

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00:56:13,666 --> 00:56:15,786
Speaker 1: on him, because if you're an off coverage when he

1126
00:56:15,826 --> 00:56:17,666
Speaker 1: gets to the top of the route, he can shake you.

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00:56:18,066 --> 00:56:20,626
Speaker 1: He's really good at getting in defender's blind spots, which

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00:56:20,666 --> 00:56:23,146
Speaker 1: basically means they can't see him, uh, and he gets

1129
00:56:23,226 --> 00:56:25,026
Speaker 1: right behind him and he's able to break off routes.

1130
00:56:25,066 --> 00:56:28,266
Speaker 1: He's great at manipulating defenders. But one thing you saw

1131
00:56:28,306 --> 00:56:29,826
Speaker 1: a lot in the Bills game, and this is a

1132
00:56:29,866 --> 00:56:33,346
Speaker 1: tendency I've noticed, is in critical situation, so third down,

1133
00:56:33,786 --> 00:56:36,146
Speaker 1: you know, two minute drills, when you really need to play,

1134
00:56:36,546 --> 00:56:38,066
Speaker 1: what they'll do a lot of the times is they'll

1135
00:56:38,066 --> 00:56:41,346
Speaker 1: put him outside the numbers. Now usually he's inside, so

1136
00:56:41,386 --> 00:56:43,386
Speaker 1: you don't know if he's gonna break insider out, which

1137
00:56:43,386 --> 00:56:45,066
Speaker 1: is what makes him so dangerous because he's such a

1138
00:56:45,066 --> 00:56:48,146
Speaker 1: great route runner. But at the same time, he's also physical,

1139
00:56:48,586 --> 00:56:51,106
Speaker 1: and like you said, he's he's that guy. He's him,

1140
00:56:51,586 --> 00:56:53,946
Speaker 1: so what you really need as we saw making that

1141
00:56:54,026 --> 00:56:57,106
Speaker 1: crazy catch that, in my humble opinion, was even greater

1142
00:56:57,146 --> 00:57:00,626
Speaker 1: than the Odell a few years back. I agree fourth

1143
00:57:00,666 --> 00:57:04,146
Speaker 1: and eighteen the context matters. O'Dell's was on a worthless

1144
00:57:04,146 --> 00:57:06,266
Speaker 1: Sunday night game for a bad Giants team that got

1145
00:57:06,426 --> 00:57:10,226
Speaker 1: on out by the Cowboys. And then and then you got, uh,

1146
00:57:10,266 --> 00:57:12,346
Speaker 1: you got Justin Jefferson doing it on fourth and eighteen,

1147
00:57:12,386 --> 00:57:14,266
Speaker 1: and it got to have a situation. And what they

1148
00:57:14,266 --> 00:57:15,746
Speaker 1: did in a lot of those third downs they put

1149
00:57:15,826 --> 00:57:18,026
Speaker 1: him outside so they had true one on one matchups

1150
00:57:18,066 --> 00:57:20,706
Speaker 1: because the Bills since the Chiefs game, they went from

1151
00:57:20,706 --> 00:57:22,946
Speaker 1: being a zone heavy team where they just wanted everybody

1152
00:57:22,986 --> 00:57:25,586
Speaker 1: to throw underneath and they come up and rally and tackles,

1153
00:57:25,626 --> 00:57:28,066
Speaker 1: playing a lot more man. So the Vikings knew that,

1154
00:57:28,106 --> 00:57:30,426
Speaker 1: so they put Jefferson all the way outside, so we

1155
00:57:30,506 --> 00:57:32,706
Speaker 1: had that one on one matchup. Obviously, the Bills are

1156
00:57:32,706 --> 00:57:35,986
Speaker 1: struggling in their secondary with injuries, and they were just like, hey,

1157
00:57:36,306 --> 00:57:38,866
Speaker 1: win on go balls, win on you know, uh deep

1158
00:57:38,946 --> 00:57:41,226
Speaker 1: in cuts, and he was doing it. He was roasting

1159
00:57:41,266 --> 00:57:43,546
Speaker 1: those guys. And then sometimes they put him in the slot,

1160
00:57:43,586 --> 00:57:45,906
Speaker 1: have him run a corner route. And that's a scary

1161
00:57:45,906 --> 00:57:48,586
Speaker 1: thing about Jefferson is he can run all these routes

1162
00:57:48,626 --> 00:57:50,986
Speaker 1: down field and he can win. It doesn't matter if

1163
00:57:51,026 --> 00:57:53,706
Speaker 1: you're right on his hip, doesn't matter if you're trailing

1164
00:57:53,746 --> 00:57:56,706
Speaker 1: behind him. You make up. He's extremely competitive and he

1165
00:57:56,746 --> 00:57:58,866
Speaker 1: can catch anything on top of being able to separate

1166
00:57:58,906 --> 00:58:01,586
Speaker 1: from anybody. It was. It was an amazing performance, it

1167
00:58:01,666 --> 00:58:05,066
Speaker 1: really was. And you know, you go through that draft

1168
00:58:05,066 --> 00:58:07,746
Speaker 1: class of all those Vindory receivers that were taken and

1169
00:58:07,746 --> 00:58:10,226
Speaker 1: in the order that they were taken, and I thought,

1170
00:58:10,546 --> 00:58:13,706
Speaker 1: for you know, for the next decade we debate like

1171
00:58:14,346 --> 00:58:18,746
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb or Brandon aiyuk or, and it's like, hey,

1172
00:58:19,066 --> 00:58:21,106
Speaker 1: I'll due respect to Jerry Judy and the rest, Like

1173
00:58:21,866 --> 00:58:24,746
Speaker 1: it's justin Jefferson. Then it's a huge gap to even

1174
00:58:24,786 --> 00:58:27,546
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb as the next guy. Absolutely, And it's it's

1175
00:58:27,546 --> 00:58:30,346
Speaker 1: the big moments, you know, it's all right, he got

1176
00:58:30,386 --> 00:58:33,666
Speaker 1: all these great receivers. Of course, and obviously team matters

1177
00:58:33,746 --> 00:58:35,946
Speaker 1: being in position to actually be able to capitalize and

1178
00:58:35,986 --> 00:58:38,866
Speaker 1: make those plays. But I mean it's it's the Buffalo Bills.

1179
00:58:38,906 --> 00:58:41,826
Speaker 1: You've got the game of the year. Obviously, hindsight is

1180
00:58:42,906 --> 00:58:45,226
Speaker 1: but uh, it was a competitive game and in all

1181
00:58:45,306 --> 00:58:48,626
Speaker 1: the clutch moments, justin Jefferson making all these plays, and

1182
00:58:48,986 --> 00:58:51,826
Speaker 1: he's already putting together a resume obviously beyond the numbers.

1183
00:58:51,866 --> 00:58:53,346
Speaker 1: If you just look at the guy, it's hard to

1184
00:58:53,386 --> 00:58:56,346
Speaker 1: say that anybody, especially in that talented draft class, is

1185
00:58:56,346 --> 00:58:59,626
Speaker 1: really doing more than he is. Taylor, you made me smarter,

1186
00:58:59,786 --> 00:59:02,066
Speaker 1: You made us all smarter. Where can we find you

1187
00:59:02,106 --> 00:59:03,786
Speaker 1: on Twitter if we want to follow your stuff and

1188
00:59:03,786 --> 00:59:06,626
Speaker 1: get all your information? Yep? So I am at t

1189
00:59:07,026 --> 00:59:10,026
Speaker 1: K y l E S thirty nine on Twitter? Thirty

1190
00:59:10,106 --> 00:59:13,186
Speaker 1: nine because of Stephen Jackson. Thirty nine. Why what's thirty nine?

1191
00:59:13,746 --> 00:59:20,226
Speaker 1: Danny Woodhead? Actually Danny Woodhead fan? Let's go? Dron stated,

1192
00:59:20,266 --> 00:59:23,466
Speaker 1: Did I say it right? I don't even know I

1193
00:59:24,786 --> 00:59:27,466
Speaker 1: what made you a Woodhead fan? Because that guy was

1194
00:59:27,666 --> 00:59:30,746
Speaker 1: a jet, a charger and was a raven. It was

1195
00:59:30,786 --> 00:59:33,146
Speaker 1: just like the ultimate, Like we need six yards on

1196
00:59:33,186 --> 00:59:35,746
Speaker 1: a screen fast, he's getting a seven. Well, I mean

1197
00:59:35,786 --> 00:59:37,826
Speaker 1: he exploded once he left the jet, So I mean

1198
00:59:37,906 --> 00:59:40,186
Speaker 1: that kind of made it one of my favorites immediately.

1199
00:59:40,226 --> 00:59:42,666
Speaker 1: But actually did he would start really watching football until

1200
00:59:42,666 --> 00:59:45,186
Speaker 1: about and that was when wood Ed was having his

1201
00:59:45,266 --> 00:59:48,986
Speaker 1: breakout year. I remember just anytime I watched the Pats game,

1202
00:59:49,066 --> 00:59:51,026
Speaker 1: you got this guy who's the shortest one on the

1203
00:59:51,026 --> 00:59:54,546
Speaker 1: field making these crazy plays, just juiced up, so hard

1204
00:59:54,586 --> 00:59:57,306
Speaker 1: guy not to fall in love with. And yeah, I've

1205
00:59:57,346 --> 00:59:59,586
Speaker 1: been a Danny Woodhead fan ever since. I was sad

1206
00:59:59,626 --> 01:00:01,506
Speaker 1: to see him go, but I cheered for him even

1207
01:00:01,506 --> 01:00:03,266
Speaker 1: when he was on the Ravens and the Chargers. We

1208
01:00:03,266 --> 01:00:06,666
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta tag Danny Woodhead to this clip. That's incredible. Other,

1209
01:00:06,746 --> 01:00:09,186
Speaker 1: thank you, Bro, so good as always, and we'll bring

1210
01:00:09,226 --> 01:00:10,546
Speaker 1: you on next week or the week after that and

1211
01:00:10,546 --> 01:00:12,986
Speaker 1: we'll get a little smarter from you. Awesome brother, Thank

1212
01:00:12,986 --> 01:00:16,666
Speaker 1: you so much. Taylor was awesome and Justin Jefferson is too.

1213
01:00:16,706 --> 01:00:18,706
Speaker 1: And now to the final part of our podcast. One

1214
01:00:18,706 --> 01:00:21,466
Speaker 1: of the most popular things that we're doing to end

1215
01:00:21,506 --> 01:00:23,786
Speaker 1: each one of these podcast is I'm bringing on a

1216
01:00:23,866 --> 01:00:27,066
Speaker 1: friend of mine, either someone i've worked with professionally or

1217
01:00:27,186 --> 01:00:29,706
Speaker 1: someone I grew up with who's got a take and

1218
01:00:29,746 --> 01:00:32,226
Speaker 1: it's a take on anything. And so far we've talked

1219
01:00:32,226 --> 01:00:36,826
Speaker 1: about everything from Game of Thrones to to whether or

1220
01:00:36,866 --> 01:00:41,426
Speaker 1: not it's morally right to give up baseball. Back to

1221
01:00:41,546 --> 01:00:44,386
Speaker 1: Aaron Judge, who happens to be a five million dollar

1222
01:00:44,426 --> 01:00:47,346
Speaker 1: man and doesn't necessarily need the money anyway. Takes are

1223
01:00:47,346 --> 01:00:49,586
Speaker 1: what we're here for, and I'm bringing out one of

1224
01:00:49,586 --> 01:00:52,946
Speaker 1: my best friends from childhood, my buddy Deetro, who was

1225
01:00:53,306 --> 01:00:56,666
Speaker 1: made for this podcast because Detro texted me with a

1226
01:00:56,666 --> 01:00:59,466
Speaker 1: little preview of something and he had to take around

1227
01:00:59,466 --> 01:01:01,826
Speaker 1: it that it might be the best of something that

1228
01:01:01,866 --> 01:01:06,826
Speaker 1: we've ever seen. Deetro. Welcome to the season with Peter Srigger.

1229
01:01:06,866 --> 01:01:09,946
Speaker 1: How are we doing this morning? Peter? How are you, sir?

1230
01:01:10,026 --> 01:01:12,546
Speaker 1: It's great to see you, great great to hear from you.

1231
01:01:12,826 --> 01:01:14,906
Speaker 1: It's amazing to hear. And we've known each other more

1232
01:01:14,906 --> 01:01:17,986
Speaker 1: than thirty years. You're one of my dearest friends. We've

1233
01:01:18,026 --> 01:01:20,986
Speaker 1: grown up together. And when you come in with a take,

1234
01:01:21,106 --> 01:01:24,066
Speaker 1: you come in piping hot, and you come in well researched,

1235
01:01:24,146 --> 01:01:27,266
Speaker 1: and you very often come with a ton of knowledge.

1236
01:01:27,306 --> 01:01:30,346
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna see the floor to you, Detro, what's

1237
01:01:30,346 --> 01:01:33,466
Speaker 1: your piping hot take for this week? Here's what I

1238
01:01:33,546 --> 01:01:37,466
Speaker 1: want your listeners to understand that there are fifty two

1239
01:01:37,506 --> 01:01:40,706
Speaker 1: weeks in a year. Everybody knows that, and most of

1240
01:01:40,786 --> 01:01:44,906
Speaker 1: the time, when a great week happens, you tend to

1241
01:01:44,946 --> 01:01:48,026
Speaker 1: look back on that week and say, God, I wish

1242
01:01:48,026 --> 01:01:49,586
Speaker 1: I would have known that that was gonna be a

1243
01:01:49,626 --> 01:01:52,226
Speaker 1: great week. I would have engraced everything a little bit

1244
01:01:52,266 --> 01:01:54,626
Speaker 1: more and really sort of sunk my teeth into it

1245
01:01:54,666 --> 01:01:56,026
Speaker 1: a little bit more, because that turns out to be

1246
01:01:56,026 --> 01:01:58,906
Speaker 1: a great week. What I want everyone to know is

1247
01:01:58,946 --> 01:02:04,146
Speaker 1: that starting this Saturday, November nineteen, running through the following

1248
01:02:04,186 --> 01:02:10,666
Speaker 1: Sunday November, that is your absolute prime, pinnacle week of

1249
01:02:10,746 --> 01:02:13,426
Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty two. And I want everybody to

1250
01:02:13,546 --> 01:02:17,306
Speaker 1: be prepared for it now because you need to embrace

1251
01:02:17,346 --> 01:02:19,466
Speaker 1: it now. Don't look back on it and say I

1252
01:02:19,506 --> 01:02:21,306
Speaker 1: wish you What do you mean? What do you mean?

1253
01:02:21,346 --> 01:02:24,066
Speaker 1: Just a great week explained? Let me walk in through

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Speaker 1: this week. So, first of all, you go into this

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Speaker 1: weekend Saturday, you get a full slate of college football games. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit there and try to convince you

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01:02:31,946 --> 01:02:34,426
Speaker 1: that is the best slate of college football games. I

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Speaker 1: get you don't want to watch Alabama, Dustin pay don't

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Speaker 1: watch it. But you get a full Saturday of college

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Speaker 1: football and there aren't many of those left. So enjoy,

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Speaker 1: embrace it, have a fantastic Saturday. But then we go

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01:02:48,466 --> 01:02:52,786
Speaker 1: into this Sunday and you get your full NFL games

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Speaker 1: right there. And if you're starting off, there's a couple

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Speaker 1: of intriguing games on Sunday. You gonna want to You're

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01:02:58,346 --> 01:03:01,466
Speaker 1: gonna want to tune into. You got Bills hosting Browns.

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01:03:02,066 --> 01:03:04,746
Speaker 1: There was a twenty year spending between our lives, you

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01:03:04,826 --> 01:03:07,306
Speaker 1: know where Bills hosting Browns. I wouldn't watch a single

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01:03:07,346 --> 01:03:11,946
Speaker 1: snap of that game. But now, coming off that ridiculous

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01:03:11,946 --> 01:03:15,146
Speaker 1: Bills lost this past Sunday, you're gearing up for Bills

1270
01:03:15,146 --> 01:03:16,986
Speaker 1: Browns because you want to know are the Bills for real?

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01:03:17,026 --> 01:03:20,266
Speaker 1: Are they're gonna bounce back? Because are they this juggernaut

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01:03:20,306 --> 01:03:22,906
Speaker 1: sixteen and one team that they looked like, or are

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01:03:22,906 --> 01:03:24,986
Speaker 1: they gonna try to sort of, you know, back in

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01:03:25,026 --> 01:03:27,626
Speaker 1: its week into the playoffs, whatever it might be. You've

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01:03:27,666 --> 01:03:30,026
Speaker 1: got Jets going up to New England for a certain

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01:03:30,226 --> 01:03:33,226
Speaker 1: section of the country. That's a fantastic game to watch

1277
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Speaker 1: this Sunday. A lot of playoff amplications on that one.

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01:03:36,466 --> 01:03:38,546
Speaker 1: Me and myself, I'm a giant fan. I know you

1279
01:03:38,586 --> 01:03:41,146
Speaker 1: don't want to watch Giants, Lions don't watch it. I

1280
01:03:41,186 --> 01:03:44,186
Speaker 1: get it, But then you get you four thirty matchups

1281
01:03:44,746 --> 01:03:50,506
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna take you out to Minnesota Ultimate promo. Look,

1282
01:03:50,826 --> 01:03:52,706
Speaker 1: this is this is part of the week. You better

1283
01:03:52,706 --> 01:03:55,666
Speaker 1: get ready to embrace it because you've got Vikings Cowboys

1284
01:03:55,706 --> 01:03:58,706
Speaker 1: this Sunday. Somehow this game ends up on CBS. It

1285
01:03:58,826 --> 01:04:02,066
Speaker 1: used to be somewhere all in Madden or prostam. All right,

1286
01:04:02,306 --> 01:04:04,426
Speaker 1: I'll take Nance and Romo. It is what it is.

1287
01:04:04,666 --> 01:04:07,866
Speaker 1: But that game has enormous playoff complications stretching all the

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01:04:07,906 --> 01:04:10,346
Speaker 1: way to who's gonna be the number one seed coming

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Speaker 1: out of the NFC. So that's a fantastic game right there.

1290
01:04:13,946 --> 01:04:16,466
Speaker 1: That gets you through Saturday and Sunday and now you

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01:04:16,666 --> 01:04:20,826
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Week is starting. You get Monday. For those of

1292
01:04:20,906 --> 01:04:24,506
Speaker 1: you that work in office, everyone's starting to mentally check

1293
01:04:24,506 --> 01:04:28,666
Speaker 1: out right around. That's just how it goes. You're out

1294
01:04:28,666 --> 01:04:31,546
Speaker 1: of office, message starting to come back to you. Nobody's

1295
01:04:31,546 --> 01:04:34,346
Speaker 1: planning big conference calls and big meetings in the conference

1296
01:04:34,426 --> 01:04:38,346
Speaker 1: room Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday next week. So you're you're rolling,

1297
01:04:38,386 --> 01:04:42,026
Speaker 1: You're all free. But from a from a sports standpoint,

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01:04:42,506 --> 01:04:45,426
Speaker 1: Monday afternoon, writing is starting to mentally check out. You

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01:04:45,506 --> 01:04:48,146
Speaker 1: get the Men's World Cup, Men's World Cup, you get

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01:04:48,266 --> 01:04:51,506
Speaker 1: Usa playing Whales. I know Wales that may sound may

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01:04:51,546 --> 01:04:56,506
Speaker 1: not matchup. And you only get the World Cup every

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01:04:56,546 --> 01:04:59,106
Speaker 1: one four years, so it's not the most populous sport

1303
01:04:59,106 --> 01:05:02,106
Speaker 1: here in the Cup. But Men's World Cup you're in.

1304
01:05:02,466 --> 01:05:04,306
Speaker 1: And if you don't think Wales is a big deal,

1305
01:05:04,426 --> 01:05:06,346
Speaker 1: well the former Prince of Wales is now the King

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01:05:06,426 --> 01:05:11,226
Speaker 1: of England, so wills it pretty big? Then you're home

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01:05:11,306 --> 01:05:14,266
Speaker 1: through Tuesday and Wednesday next week, which if you again,

1308
01:05:14,306 --> 01:05:16,466
Speaker 1: if you're working for a company in an office setting,

1309
01:05:16,906 --> 01:05:20,186
Speaker 1: you you have zero meetings, zero conference balls. Everybody is

1310
01:05:20,266 --> 01:05:23,226
Speaker 1: on cruise control, heading out, heading out the office. Companies

1311
01:05:23,266 --> 01:05:26,186
Speaker 1: are closing early on Wednesday. If you're a teacher, you're

1312
01:05:26,186 --> 01:05:29,306
Speaker 1: not starting any new planned lessons on Tuesday or Wednesday

1313
01:05:29,346 --> 01:05:33,306
Speaker 1: next week. You're you're making macaroni necklaces in the classroom.

1314
01:05:33,546 --> 01:05:38,026
Speaker 1: You're putting the week on a knee, and that that

1315
01:05:38,026 --> 01:05:40,586
Speaker 1: that that's just how it goes on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday

1316
01:05:40,586 --> 01:05:44,066
Speaker 1: next week from a professional standpoint. But then you get

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01:05:44,106 --> 01:05:48,146
Speaker 1: to Thursday, then you actually get to Thanksgiving. I'm not

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01:05:48,146 --> 01:05:50,306
Speaker 1: gonna sit here and do some sort of buzz feed

1319
01:05:50,306 --> 01:05:52,986
Speaker 1: list of top ten side dishes anything like that. You

1320
01:05:53,026 --> 01:05:54,506
Speaker 1: don't need to hear that from me. I think we

1321
01:05:54,546 --> 01:05:58,666
Speaker 1: all generally agree the meal and the keating on Thursday

1322
01:05:58,706 --> 01:06:00,786
Speaker 1: are phenomenal to the top two day of the year

1323
01:06:00,826 --> 01:06:03,226
Speaker 1: to eat. We don't have to go down that road.

1324
01:06:03,546 --> 01:06:08,066
Speaker 1: But from a sports landscape, what are we have on Thanksgiving? First,

1325
01:06:09,466 --> 01:06:13,066
Speaker 1: you get your bills at Lions. That's an intriguing game.

1326
01:06:13,106 --> 01:06:16,586
Speaker 1: Obviously Bill spot it is to watch that one. But

1327
01:06:16,746 --> 01:06:19,986
Speaker 1: you know the Lions always show up and fight on Thanksgiving.

1328
01:06:20,066 --> 01:06:23,826
Speaker 1: What do we say? They're frisky and and they're extra

1329
01:06:23,866 --> 01:06:25,946
Speaker 1: frisky on Thanksgiving. It's one of those games where it's

1330
01:06:25,946 --> 01:06:28,066
Speaker 1: thirty five thirty one in the fourth quarter and I'm

1331
01:06:28,106 --> 01:06:30,706
Speaker 1: texting you, would you look at these Lions? Where where

1332
01:06:30,906 --> 01:06:34,146
Speaker 1: different Lions teams been all season long? They should be

1333
01:06:34,186 --> 01:06:36,506
Speaker 1: seven and three right now. That's kind of how that

1334
01:06:36,546 --> 01:06:39,426
Speaker 1: plays out. Then ready to getting ready to sit down

1335
01:06:39,426 --> 01:06:42,466
Speaker 1: to eat on Thanksgiving? Where we're going. We're going down

1336
01:06:42,506 --> 01:06:46,386
Speaker 1: to Dallas. You've got Cowboys, You've got Giants. That's an

1337
01:06:46,426 --> 01:06:50,026
Speaker 1: old fashioned NFC each NFC East slug fest. That's a

1338
01:06:50,026 --> 01:06:53,386
Speaker 1: fantastic game. That's a lot of fun. There's a few

1339
01:06:53,386 --> 01:06:55,866
Speaker 1: segments of of the NFL fan base out there either

1340
01:06:55,906 --> 01:06:58,226
Speaker 1: you're a diehard Cowboys fan. You're a pump for that game.

1341
01:06:58,426 --> 01:07:00,946
Speaker 1: You're a diehard Giant fan. You're a pump for that game,

1342
01:07:01,386 --> 01:07:04,706
Speaker 1: or your every other NFL fan out there that basically,

1343
01:07:04,746 --> 01:07:08,346
Speaker 1: let's just say you hate the Cowboys, you're pumped to

1344
01:07:08,386 --> 01:07:10,826
Speaker 1: watch that game. You know, that's the type of game

1345
01:07:10,866 --> 01:07:13,066
Speaker 1: that does a monster rating right there, Like it's a

1346
01:07:13,066 --> 01:07:17,546
Speaker 1: playoff game. Love that you get into Thursday night. Now

1347
01:07:17,546 --> 01:07:20,266
Speaker 1: the week is you know, you're still rolling tron in

1348
01:07:20,306 --> 01:07:22,506
Speaker 1: this week. You get it the Thursday night, you've crushed

1349
01:07:22,546 --> 01:07:27,906
Speaker 1: twenty calories. The fatigue it starts, You've watched seven hours

1350
01:07:27,906 --> 01:07:30,026
Speaker 1: of football. You get ready to sit down. What do

1351
01:07:30,106 --> 01:07:33,026
Speaker 1: you got? You got Tariko, you got NBC. You got

1352
01:07:33,026 --> 01:07:37,346
Speaker 1: the Vikings hosting the Patriots, which is another intriguing that's

1353
01:07:37,386 --> 01:07:39,386
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. You gotta if you're able to

1354
01:07:39,426 --> 01:07:41,626
Speaker 1: stay away to watch that whole game because you've been

1355
01:07:41,706 --> 01:07:44,626
Speaker 1: up all day eating and drinking and you're exhausted. That's

1356
01:07:44,666 --> 01:07:48,626
Speaker 1: a fun one big playoff implications. Then you go to

1357
01:07:48,626 --> 01:07:50,826
Speaker 1: sleep that night, you wake up Friday, all right, you

1358
01:07:50,866 --> 01:07:53,106
Speaker 1: may think Friday is a little slow. I'm gonna take

1359
01:07:53,106 --> 01:07:55,986
Speaker 1: it easy today, ease into the day, after Thanksgiving. I

1360
01:07:56,026 --> 01:07:58,786
Speaker 1: haven't checked my work email in three days. It's fine.

1361
01:07:59,106 --> 01:08:02,226
Speaker 1: And what do you have on Friday afternoon? At two o'clock?

1362
01:08:02,906 --> 01:08:08,026
Speaker 1: You get team USA playing England in the Men's World Cup.

1363
01:08:08,266 --> 01:08:11,506
Speaker 1: Gets set get ready. It's been two forty six years

1364
01:08:11,506 --> 01:08:16,226
Speaker 1: since we've declared independence. Here we go. That's a fan.

1365
01:08:16,786 --> 01:08:20,786
Speaker 1: You can't plan a better day after Thanksgiving than to

1366
01:08:20,906 --> 01:08:24,186
Speaker 1: settle in for USA England in the Men's World Cup.

1367
01:08:24,306 --> 01:08:28,066
Speaker 1: I couldn't name a single player on either team, and

1368
01:08:28,266 --> 01:08:31,986
Speaker 1: I'm incredibly excited for that game. Can't wait for that one.

1369
01:08:32,466 --> 01:08:36,146
Speaker 1: Give me a little you ninety seconds? Your take, guys

1370
01:08:36,186 --> 01:08:38,666
Speaker 1: for listeners detros the guy that will text me be like,

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01:08:38,706 --> 01:08:42,626
Speaker 1: have you seen blank on the History Channel? And so

1372
01:08:42,706 --> 01:08:46,386
Speaker 1: give me a little US England, Give me a little

1373
01:08:46,386 --> 01:08:49,306
Speaker 1: revolutionary war take ninety seconds? All right? Well, I mean, look,

1374
01:08:49,346 --> 01:08:51,626
Speaker 1: this game is not exactly being played in Yorktown. I

1375
01:08:51,706 --> 01:08:55,466
Speaker 1: get it. My my take on it is that no

1376
01:08:55,506 --> 01:08:59,106
Speaker 1: matter how much time passes from the eighteenth century when

1377
01:08:59,106 --> 01:09:02,386
Speaker 1: that all happened, there's always gonna be in USA England

1378
01:09:02,506 --> 01:09:07,426
Speaker 1: sort of first cousin the kind of battle and half hatred,

1379
01:09:07,546 --> 01:09:09,946
Speaker 1: half love and can't wait to play you and can't

1380
01:09:09,946 --> 01:09:12,306
Speaker 1: wait to beat you kind of thing that that that's

1381
01:09:12,306 --> 01:09:14,186
Speaker 1: just how it goes. So when they match up on

1382
01:09:14,186 --> 01:09:21,666
Speaker 1: an international stage, I'm in that game ends. That that

1383
01:09:21,706 --> 01:09:25,146
Speaker 1: game ends. You've had you leftover turkey sandwich. It's Friday,

1384
01:09:25,226 --> 01:09:29,786
Speaker 1: you're exhausted, your spouse has been crushing Amazon Prime. Everything

1385
01:09:29,866 --> 01:09:32,746
Speaker 1: is going crazy. Right now, you take it easy for

1386
01:09:32,746 --> 01:09:34,506
Speaker 1: the rest of that night. I'm sure there's a couple

1387
01:09:34,546 --> 01:09:36,386
Speaker 1: of other a little you know, there's there's some college

1388
01:09:36,426 --> 01:09:39,826
Speaker 1: football games that maybe you can tune into, a basketball

1389
01:09:39,866 --> 01:09:44,066
Speaker 1: tournament in Maui. There's always something like that. Always. But

1390
01:09:44,146 --> 01:09:47,266
Speaker 1: then the next day, now you got Saturday morning and

1391
01:09:47,306 --> 01:09:50,066
Speaker 1: you wake up and what do you have. First of all,

1392
01:09:50,466 --> 01:09:55,106
Speaker 1: you have at noon on FOPS Ohio State Michigan. Well,

1393
01:09:55,146 --> 01:09:56,666
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can handle all this sports.

1394
01:09:56,706 --> 01:09:59,586
Speaker 1: There's just so much sports. That's why I'm giving you

1395
01:09:59,626 --> 01:10:03,906
Speaker 1: a few days right now to prepare to mentally with

1396
01:10:04,146 --> 01:10:08,466
Speaker 1: the palette, because come sa Saturday at noon for Ohio

1397
01:10:08,546 --> 01:10:11,626
Speaker 1: State Michigan. You may think you've had enough sports, but

1398
01:10:11,746 --> 01:10:14,986
Speaker 1: you're getting two undefeated teams. This game is everything. This

1399
01:10:15,066 --> 01:10:17,906
Speaker 1: game is college football playoffs. I mean, you don't get

1400
01:10:17,906 --> 01:10:20,186
Speaker 1: a better matchup than that if you're looking to watch

1401
01:10:20,186 --> 01:10:25,306
Speaker 1: college football next Saturday, it just doesn't happen. That's what

1402
01:10:25,466 --> 01:10:27,906
Speaker 1: you get. You get The rest of the slate of

1403
01:10:27,906 --> 01:10:29,666
Speaker 1: college football is also great. I'm not gonna walk you

1404
01:10:29,706 --> 01:10:32,666
Speaker 1: through this game back game, but later on that night

1405
01:10:32,746 --> 01:10:34,986
Speaker 1: you do get noted Dame at usc which is always

1406
01:10:34,986 --> 01:10:37,386
Speaker 1: a fun one. That's always an intriguing one. Seven thirty

1407
01:10:37,466 --> 01:10:40,106
Speaker 1: that that that's always a fun game, regardless of if

1408
01:10:40,146 --> 01:10:42,266
Speaker 1: you're a fan or not. It's a fun college football

1409
01:10:42,306 --> 01:10:45,986
Speaker 1: game to be watching. And then we get it a Sunday,

1410
01:10:46,346 --> 01:10:50,986
Speaker 1: another football Sunday. You got another full slate of football Sunday.

1411
01:10:51,426 --> 01:10:55,706
Speaker 1: I feel like a glutton right now. You gotta keep going.

1412
01:10:55,946 --> 01:10:58,466
Speaker 1: You gotta keep going. The appetizers come out of Would

1413
01:10:58,466 --> 01:11:01,506
Speaker 1: you excuse me if I didn't watch football on Sunday

1414
01:11:01,546 --> 01:11:03,306
Speaker 1: next week? Thanks, I'm just like you know what, I'm

1415
01:11:03,306 --> 01:11:06,266
Speaker 1: football out. I did the soccer thing on Friday. I mean,

1416
01:11:06,506 --> 01:11:08,266
Speaker 1: you know how these husbands are gonna be explaining to

1417
01:11:08,266 --> 01:11:09,866
Speaker 1: their wives that like, oh no, no, no, I actually

1418
01:11:09,866 --> 01:11:12,906
Speaker 1: needed another nine hours today and I need another nine

1419
01:11:12,906 --> 01:11:16,066
Speaker 1: hours today. Get back on Amazon, Pride taed in there?

1420
01:11:16,266 --> 01:11:19,066
Speaker 1: Do you a holiday shopping? That's what has to do.

1421
01:11:19,186 --> 01:11:20,506
Speaker 1: If this is the time when they got to go

1422
01:11:20,546 --> 01:11:22,506
Speaker 1: out and buy all the Christmas presidents to do that,

1423
01:11:22,506 --> 01:11:26,066
Speaker 1: that's fine, But let's face facts. It's a football Sunday,

1424
01:11:26,186 --> 01:11:29,026
Speaker 1: and that's just how it works. If you gotta run

1425
01:11:29,026 --> 01:11:30,826
Speaker 1: some marans early in the morning, you run your errands,

1426
01:11:30,826 --> 01:11:33,186
Speaker 1: But come one o'clock the games are kicking off. You're

1427
01:11:33,186 --> 01:11:35,386
Speaker 1: not just gonna say, okay, well you know what, I'll

1428
01:11:35,386 --> 01:11:37,546
Speaker 1: give up football today. I'm not gonna watch it. You're

1429
01:11:37,546 --> 01:11:41,546
Speaker 1: gonna settle in from one o'clock through the night game

1430
01:11:41,626 --> 01:11:44,666
Speaker 1: and do an entire football Sunday. And by the time

1431
01:11:44,706 --> 01:11:48,306
Speaker 1: Sunday night comes rolling along and you have Steelers Colts

1432
01:11:48,346 --> 01:11:51,546
Speaker 1: that kick off, or excuse me, Sunday night at night

1433
01:11:51,666 --> 01:11:55,066
Speaker 1: is Packers Eagles, which is a incredibly intriguing game to

1434
01:11:55,146 --> 01:11:57,746
Speaker 1: finish off the week. Yeah, you're gonna be on your couch.

1435
01:11:57,986 --> 01:11:59,586
Speaker 1: You may take your phone out, look to see if

1436
01:11:59,586 --> 01:12:02,466
Speaker 1: a single work email has come in over the past

1437
01:12:02,466 --> 01:12:06,066
Speaker 1: six days, which it probably hasn't. And here we are,

1438
01:12:06,186 --> 01:12:10,266
Speaker 1: it's Monday night. You're settling in Packers Eagles, you're exhausted,

1439
01:12:10,306 --> 01:12:14,306
Speaker 1: you've gained ten pounds. But if you realize, oh my god,

1440
01:12:14,386 --> 01:12:17,706
Speaker 1: what an unbelievable week that just passed. I wish I

1441
01:12:17,706 --> 01:12:20,306
Speaker 1: would have embraced it a little bit more. That's why

1442
01:12:20,346 --> 01:12:23,106
Speaker 1: I'm telling you now, get ready to embrace it now.

1443
01:12:23,506 --> 01:12:26,866
Speaker 1: Because a week like this, with the NFL and college

1444
01:12:26,866 --> 01:12:30,346
Speaker 1: football and the men's World Cups wriggled in when you

1445
01:12:30,426 --> 01:12:35,106
Speaker 1: get to USA Games life from Qatar, that's it. Get

1446
01:12:35,146 --> 01:12:37,946
Speaker 1: ready and embrace it now because weeks like this don't

1447
01:12:37,986 --> 01:12:40,946
Speaker 1: come along very often. You're gonna look up in three months.

1448
01:12:40,946 --> 01:12:43,626
Speaker 1: It's gonna be that third week of February. It's gonna

1449
01:12:43,626 --> 01:12:48,026
Speaker 1: be a long, cold, dark, bleak week in February. There's

1450
01:12:48,026 --> 01:12:51,306
Speaker 1: no NFL, there's no college football. Baseball with the pitchers

1451
01:12:51,306 --> 01:12:54,026
Speaker 1: and catchers are barely showed up the training camp. You're

1452
01:12:54,026 --> 01:12:56,746
Speaker 1: gonna be miserable, and you're gonna say, jeez, I wish

1453
01:12:56,746 --> 01:12:58,906
Speaker 1: you would have embraced that week in November a little

1454
01:12:58,906 --> 01:13:00,786
Speaker 1: bit more. What an unbelievable week. I wish you would

1455
01:13:00,826 --> 01:13:03,666
Speaker 1: have known that it was gone now, you know God,

1456
01:13:03,706 --> 01:13:06,306
Speaker 1: thank you. I'm gonna finish up with this because are

1457
01:13:06,586 --> 01:13:08,226
Speaker 1: This podcast is three hours long and you're the best

1458
01:13:08,266 --> 01:13:11,306
Speaker 1: part of it. Um really quickly the listeners at home,

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Speaker 1: you hear how this man is a master of words.

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Speaker 1: He can talk, he's an incredible salesman. Um, just real quick,

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Speaker 1: let's go. You're you're a married man now, but let's

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Speaker 1: go back a few years, maybe a decade, the Wednesday

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Speaker 1: night before Thanksgiving? What's that mean to a single man?

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Speaker 1: Totally different ball game. Where you're at, where I'm at

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Speaker 1: right now in life, and where maybe ten fifteen years ago,

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01:13:33,426 --> 01:13:36,346
Speaker 1: the night before Thanksgiving it's night and day. But for

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Speaker 1: your single guys out there, let's say between the ages

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Speaker 1: of I don't know, three to thirty five Thanksgiving, this

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01:13:43,466 --> 01:13:46,426
Speaker 1: is it. Get ready, get your plans set, get to

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Speaker 1: the A T M Machine early. Make sure you have

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01:13:49,186 --> 01:13:53,026
Speaker 1: your credit card refreshed and ready to god, your credit

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01:13:53,026 --> 01:13:55,666
Speaker 1: cards are fresh. You gotta get ready to go. You

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01:13:55,746 --> 01:13:57,546
Speaker 1: bet in the show, but the bar you get, the climb,

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01:13:57,626 --> 01:14:00,386
Speaker 1: you try to buy a you gonna You're gonna buy

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Speaker 1: an old fashioned round of I don't even know what

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01:14:02,186 --> 01:14:07,426
Speaker 1: the park is drinking apple APW because they they give me,

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Speaker 1: give me, give me twelve yeager bombs, and they gave

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01:14:09,906 --> 01:14:11,906
Speaker 1: you a bill for a hundred and twenty dollars and

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01:14:11,906 --> 01:14:13,906
Speaker 1: your credit card can't afford that. You're gonna you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be laughed out of the room. So get ready to

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01:14:16,346 --> 01:14:18,986
Speaker 1: go get your hair cut on Wednesday morning, get your

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01:14:19,026 --> 01:14:22,866
Speaker 1: fresh out, reading rock, have your plans set, know what

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01:14:22,906 --> 01:14:26,706
Speaker 1: you're doing, because this is the night. This is what

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01:14:26,826 --> 01:14:29,706
Speaker 1: I just talked about, Peak week coming in right there. Well,

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Speaker 1: for a certain age group, this is peak night. This

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Speaker 1: is it. People say it's for amateurs, It's not for amateurs.

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Speaker 1: News Eves for amateurs, Thanksgiving Eves for professionals. Show Off.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was amazing. I love you, buddy,

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01:14:44,746 --> 01:14:47,266
Speaker 1: I love you. Thanks for having me on. I will

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Speaker 1: and and gosh. That's how we're gonna end the podcast.

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01:14:49,666 --> 01:14:54,706
Speaker 1: That was fantastic. Um, we went from being denied passports

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Speaker 1: at the airport to Ryan Pole's giving us a very

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01:14:57,746 --> 01:15:02,466
Speaker 1: studied take on why the Chicago Bears are in good hands,

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01:15:02,586 --> 01:15:05,066
Speaker 1: to lesson on Justin Jefferson, and then a lesson on

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01:15:05,306 --> 01:15:07,506
Speaker 1: why we should appreciate the following days if you're a

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01:15:07,546 --> 01:15:10,146
Speaker 1: sports fan, and then why you really got to get

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01:15:10,186 --> 01:15:12,666
Speaker 1: after it the Wednesday before Thanksgiving if you're a single man.

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Speaker 1: All this is what we do on the season with

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Speaker 1: Peter Schreeger. Guys, until next week. Aaron Jan Kaufman, the Best,

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Speaker 1: Jason English, the Best, I Heart NFL, Jack Run on

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Speaker 1: the on the one, twos were on Fire. Let's Go

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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schreeger is a production of the

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