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Speaker 1: The is one Bill's Live presented by called Light of Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Friday coverage here at the NFL Combine in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, and please to be joined now

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Speaker 1: by Bill's reporter Maddie Glab to kick off the show

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Speaker 1: here on a Friday. Maddie has been feverishly working the

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Speaker 1: podiums and lecterns where players and coaches have been speaking

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Speaker 1: all week and trying to sift through a lot of

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Speaker 1: the drivel that doesn't matter to give us the nuggets

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Speaker 1: the do so, maybe maybe share with us the most

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Speaker 1: interesting nugget from today. We've got quarterbacks and receivers kind

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Speaker 1: of cycling through today. Correct. Yeah, I've been the eyes

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Speaker 1: and ears on the ground while you guys have been

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Speaker 1: doing the show. I've been talking to almost all the prospects.

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Speaker 1: There's three hundred nineteen here. I think I've talked to

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Speaker 1: about a hundred. Buy Now, I want to say we're

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Speaker 1: gonna hear from the running backs and the offensive lineman tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: our final group that's going to talk for this twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three NFL Scouting Combine. Heard from the wide receivers

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Speaker 1: and quarterbacks today and man oh Man When you ask

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Speaker 1: these guys about what it would be like to play

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Speaker 1: with Josh Allen alongside a receiver like Stefan Diggs, their

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Speaker 1: eyes light up. We heard guys say it's a it's

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Speaker 1: been a dream of mine to play with players like

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Stefan Diggs. And there's been some connections

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Speaker 1: to Stefan Diggs as well. Marilyn actually has seven players

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Speaker 1: at the Combine this year, which is incredible for a

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Speaker 1: program like Maryland. They have three wide receivers here this year,

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Speaker 1: and it's cool to see guys who have played together

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Speaker 1: that are now going through this process together. Two of

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Speaker 1: those wide receivers actually grew up around thirty minutes away

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Speaker 1: from Stefan Diggs and have kind of used Stefan Diggs

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Speaker 1: as as somebody to get some advice from in terms

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Speaker 1: of should I play at Maryland? Should I try to

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Speaker 1: go somewhere else? And Stefan Diggs expressed, you know how

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Speaker 1: awesome it was to play for his hometown team, and

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Speaker 1: that kind of impacted these two wide receivers for making

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Speaker 1: a decision to play at Maryland. They said it worked

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Speaker 1: out for Stefan Diggs. We believe it can work out

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Speaker 1: for us as well. So it's been really cool to

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Speaker 1: hear some of those nuggets from some of the wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: and then you hear from a wide receiver like Jordan Addison,

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Speaker 1: who has been a hot name in this draft class

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Speaker 1: and who knows if he'll be available for the Bills

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Speaker 1: at number twenty seven. He said he grew up in

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Speaker 1: a neighborhood very close to Stefan Diggs. They played in

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Speaker 1: the same youth league. He went to his high school

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Speaker 1: football games when he was a kid. He said he's

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Speaker 1: looked up to Stefan Diggs as he was growing up,

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Speaker 1: and he said, would mean so much to play alongside

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Speaker 1: somebody likes Stefan Diggs, who he really models his game after.

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Speaker 1: So there's just been nuggets here and there. And I've

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Speaker 1: said this the last couple of years that we've been

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Speaker 1: covering the NFL scouting Combine, or at least that I've

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Speaker 1: been a part of it with you guys. The first

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Speaker 1: year I was here, coming off of the twenty nineteen season,

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Speaker 1: it was you would ask prospects what do you know

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Speaker 1: about Buffalo and they wouldn't know too much. Now you

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Speaker 1: ask these guys about the Buffalo Bills, and like I said,

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Speaker 1: they have so much to say about this team, whether

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Speaker 1: it's on offense, whether it's on defense, the type of

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Speaker 1: offense that this team runs, Guys want to be a

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Speaker 1: part of it. Guys know it's high flying, Guys know

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Speaker 1: it it really it's adaptable in terms of coming out

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Speaker 1: of college football and coming into the NFL based on similarities.

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Speaker 1: And they like the defense. They like the defensive players

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Speaker 1: that we have in our scheme. So's it always gets

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Speaker 1: me smiling knowing that so many of these guys would

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Speaker 1: is looking to take that next step this season. Why

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Speaker 1: don't we move forward to the workouts from last night. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Nolan Smith almost lit the turf on fire with his

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Speaker 1: four three nine forty as a defensive end, that's insane.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about comps. He ran faster than se

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Speaker 1: and you know that's a guy that may not fit

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Speaker 1: great seeing him. The weird thing was half of them

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Speaker 1: Call me crazy. So then all this chatter about these

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Speaker 1: on film last night. That was pretty crazy. The three

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Speaker 1: It's all the other stuff that they're measuring or finding

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Speaker 1: And we know this team's ties to Iowa players, aj Abanessa,

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Speaker 1: And I got to listen in on Jack Campbell and

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Speaker 1: I was very impressed with what he had to say

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Speaker 1: to media. He had this incredible quote where he compared

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Speaker 1: playing linebacker to being a frog. Frogs have to exist

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Speaker 1: I have to be able to stop the run, rush

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Speaker 1: He also grew up in the same town as Ike Bucker.

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Speaker 1: amazing to be in Buffalo to play alongside with a

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Speaker 1: So there are so many ties to guys on this team.

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Speaker 1: and the Georgia kids. They have great things to say

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Speaker 1: So if the Bills need a linebacker, if Tremaine Edmonds

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Speaker 1: he might be somebody that's interesting that this coaching staff

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Speaker 1: since they drafted Tremaine Edmunds, a lot of things have changed,

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Speaker 1: but they traded up to get him, and they wanted

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Speaker 1: important to jump up in the first round and get him.

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Speaker 1: him to be, to Pro Bowl, high level athlete, and

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Speaker 1: he's now played so well he's gonna make too much

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Speaker 1: money for them to keep. The connection is if that

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Speaker 1: is still an important position for this coaching staff, do

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Speaker 1: That's why you know we were talking about that, Steve,

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Speaker 1: and I think you know the free agency process has

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Speaker 1: to play itself out, and there are there is a

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Speaker 1: very good list of free agent linebackers in addition to

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Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmunds where the supply could outweigh the demand and

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Speaker 1: maybe you can get a quote unquote free agent bargain

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Speaker 1: that takes care of that need. If in fact, you

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Speaker 1: can't get Edmunds back in the fold because he's too expensive,

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Speaker 1: the money gets ridiculous, and knowing Buffalo's cap situation, they

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Speaker 1: like Tremaine Edmunds. Maybe you get a player it's a

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Speaker 1: by Kalot of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the NFL Combine in Indianapolis. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you on a Friday here with our

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Speaker 1: combine coverage one Bills Live. Please to be joined out

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Speaker 1: by ESPN draft analyst and insider Matt Miller. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: swinging by, man. I know you got a busy week,

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Speaker 1: so I appreciate you giving us some time. I always

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Speaker 1: make time for the Buffalo Bills. Being from Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: I feel like this. I'm like the goodwill ambassador for

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Speaker 1: Kansas City to come on and be where you grew up.

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Speaker 1: I grew up south of there. Yeah, so Kansa Kansas

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Speaker 1: day yea. Yeah, so yeah, Southern Missouri for me, Southwest Missouri.

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Speaker 1: But we're not all bad in Kansas City, I promise.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I no, no, we get it. Yeah, it's totally.

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Speaker 1: It's all good. It's all the great rivalry and here

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Speaker 1: and it's love. It's going to remain a hot rivalry

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Speaker 1: for foreseeable future. Is good. Yeah, that's good. That's what

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Speaker 1: the NFL needs. You need your Brady Manning, you need

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Speaker 1: your Marino Elway, yeah you know, or Kelly Marino. Absolutely. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You got me all excited with your dream pick for

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Speaker 1: the Bills. I know you even stated you're not one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent sure he's gonna get down to twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: But I love me some Jordan Addison. Um, Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: I see him as a three level receiver and there

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Speaker 1: don't seem to be a whole lot of those kinds

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Speaker 1: of receivers in this draft class. Would you agree? I

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Speaker 1: would agree with that that there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: fast receivers in this class, but there are not, as

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Speaker 1: you mentioned, three level players. There are not route runners

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Speaker 1: like Jordan Addison. Now, realistically he will not be there

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Speaker 1: at twenty seven barring, you know, some shocking change. But

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Speaker 1: teams can trade picks. You can't get up with you

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Speaker 1: guys do then in the past, not always you know

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Speaker 1: the motive of the front office, but I think he would.

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Speaker 1: He would open the offense up to such a degree.

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Speaker 1: And you always have to be thinking about the way

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Speaker 1: the NFL is now with wide receivers. You always have

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Speaker 1: to be looking for that next guy because you never

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Speaker 1: know you're one. You're one locker room blow up away

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Speaker 1: from a guy trying to get out of town. Ye

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Speaker 1: look for cheap labor. Also that the Bills really this

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Speaker 1: draft as receivers, there's always and and we hear it

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Speaker 1: all the time the players come in here and they

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Speaker 1: almost talk teams out of drafting him. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: really what this is about. Absolutely, the interview process here

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Speaker 1: is as important as anything we'll see on the field,

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Speaker 1: right because and it is you're selling yourself to the

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Speaker 1: teams almost of Hey, this is why I'm trustworthy, this

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Speaker 1: is why I'm a hard worker, this is why I'm

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Speaker 1: a guy that you should build your team around. So

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Speaker 1: Jordan Addison checks all those boxes and again looking at

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Speaker 1: ways to open this offense up. How do you get

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Speaker 1: over the hump? How do you beat Cincinnati? How do

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Speaker 1: you beat Kansas City in the postseason? You know that,

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Speaker 1: short of finding a great offensive guard in the first round,

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Speaker 1: which I don't know that that player exists this year,

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Speaker 1: I think that's where you have to get creative and like, hey,

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Speaker 1: this is go score some points. I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of Bills fans and I don't know if other fans

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Speaker 1: around the league are like this, but Bills fans, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to say it's an obsession, but they talk

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Speaker 1: more about offensive lineman than most NFL fan bases, and

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Speaker 1: I think they desperately want one on the interior. There's

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Speaker 1: no secret from a sheer numbers perspective with four free

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Speaker 1: agents on the offensive line this off season, that they

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Speaker 1: have to replenish the numbers just because you got to

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Speaker 1: have bodies to line up. But I think there is

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Speaker 1: a healthy amount of the fan base that wants to

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Speaker 1: see the Bills address the offensive line early. I know

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Speaker 1: you mocked recently Cody Mock to the Bills at twenty seven. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what is the most appealing thing about him? Number one?

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Speaker 1: And then number two? Bills love position flex and this

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Speaker 1: kid comes to the Senior Bowl and says, Oh, you

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Speaker 1: want to line me up at center? Go ahead. I've

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Speaker 1: never played there, but yeah, sure, let's do it. Yeah

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Speaker 1: that's what I love. I mean, I think the first

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Speaker 1: line of my notes on his tape is he's an

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Speaker 1: ass kinger, So I hope I can say that that's yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he just did. He's a Muller, right, He's

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's just he's mean. He's aggressive, and sometimes

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Speaker 1: players are mean and aggressive and they're out of control.

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Speaker 1: He's not. It's a controlled violence really with his game.

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Speaker 1: And as you mentioned, he could play left tackle, he

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Speaker 1: could play guard. He played center in Mobile, so I

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Speaker 1: think he's a guard to me. He's put him into

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Speaker 1: side with the way that he can just boost the

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Speaker 1: run game to bring you playing offensive guards like being

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Speaker 1: in a fist fight in a foam booth, and he's

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Speaker 1: equipped for that. So okay, I think he is that

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Speaker 1: type of a tone setter a little bit. Now. His

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Speaker 1: stock has probably gone down a little bit since the

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Speaker 1: last mock draft we did right off the Senior Bowl

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Speaker 1: where everyone was excited about him. So I would throughout

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Speaker 1: the name Darnell right from Tennessee as a right tackle.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's played left tackle, he's played guard, but

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Speaker 1: right tackle. Last year we saw his stock go from

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Speaker 1: you know, early Day three to late round one. He

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Speaker 1: just really improved as a player. So I think he's

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Speaker 1: an ascending prospect that would definitely solve some of those problems.

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Speaker 1: Is he right tackle? I think right the NFL or guard.

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Speaker 1: I think right tackle. The link is there, the powers

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Speaker 1: definitely their feet feet of there, and I think the

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Speaker 1: hand power is there. And then the recency bias we

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Speaker 1: all have because you see that seat the season end

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Speaker 1: and it's in the recent past has been Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: This can't see that in RAMS as well. It's an

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Speaker 1: offensive league, it is, Yeah, I'm Mike McCarthy doesn't want

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Speaker 1: to believe it right right as an offensive league. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do think you you're always looking to especially in

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Speaker 1: the AFC. You have Cincinnati, you do have Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: You've got other teams that are up and coming. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean points. If you want to beat Buffalo, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna score forty two points if you try to win

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Speaker 1: that game. It feels like so I think we are

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Speaker 1: going to see you know, last year it was everyone

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Speaker 1: loaded up on wide receivers. You know, A J. Brown

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Speaker 1: gets traded, Tyree Hill gets traded, Davanta Adams gets traded.

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Speaker 1: This year, our correction could be, hey, offensive line is

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Speaker 1: where we gotta get better. And this draft class is

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Speaker 1: not incredibly deep on the interior. So I think we

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Speaker 1: could see teams overdraft a little bit late first round

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Speaker 1: those competitors or contenders. Excuse me to try to get

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Speaker 1: over that hump. The Bills need to replenish numbers at

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Speaker 1: the safety position as well. We're getting kind of mixed

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Speaker 1: opinions on the safety class, like not a lot of

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Speaker 1: great guys. I know some people are mixed on the branch.

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Speaker 1: Kid from Alabama, is he a slot corner or is

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Speaker 1: he a safety? Is he both? So if he's not

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Speaker 1: in the safety class, obviously hurts the safety class. I know,

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Speaker 1: the brown kid from Penn State is a popular guy

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Speaker 1: that a lot of people like. Beyond those two, though,

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Speaker 1: does it get thin in a hurry? It does. Antonio

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Speaker 1: Johnson from Texas A and M Yeah fits in that.

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Speaker 1: Not with with Branch who that's you made a great point.

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Speaker 1: Some people think he's a corner something, he's a safety something,

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Speaker 1: he's a nickel. It's a lot like Daxton Hill last

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Speaker 1: year coming out of Michigan, who has picked thirty one

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Speaker 1: in the draft. Branch will probably go earlier than that,

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Speaker 1: but it is it is a thin safety group. I

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Speaker 1: think you're looking at guys who I'm a big fan

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Speaker 1: of Christopher Smith from Georgia, but he's undersized. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: won eighty eight big. You know, it's like it's like

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Speaker 1: watching Bob Sanders out there all over again. So I'd

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Speaker 1: like Chris Smith is someone who probably going to be

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Speaker 1: a third round pick, maybe maybe round two. We'll see

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Speaker 1: how well he does here. But like I see a

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Speaker 1: starter there, and I think that's the beauty of the

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Speaker 1: safety position is you don't have to draft these guys

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Speaker 1: in the first round. You can find those day two,

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Speaker 1: so you can find maybe a guy that could be

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Speaker 1: starting caliber, maybe if not right away, maybe by the

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Speaker 1: back half of his rookie season, like in round three

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Speaker 1: and four, you can still you're probably gonna find start

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Speaker 1: if you're probably gonna be like a little bit traite deficient.

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Speaker 1: It might be a guy who runs a four or

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Speaker 1: five instead of a four four, or he might be

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Speaker 1: five to ten instead of six foot, but their play says, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm a starter in the NFL. At the top of

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Speaker 1: this draft is it always happens that the money position

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Speaker 1: the edge rushers, quarterbacks, corners, and left tackles. How's that

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Speaker 1: the quarterback group? Who where You've got four handful of

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Speaker 1: guys who may or may not be you know, the overdraft.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have one of your drafts. You've got the

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Speaker 1: Colts jumping up to get the Bears pick. All of

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Speaker 1: that's on the table for all of these teams because

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Speaker 1: everybody's gonna listen. Yeah, how do you think the money picks?

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Speaker 1: You know, the edge rushers and quarterbacks are going to

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Speaker 1: affect the top of the draft. Yeah, I mean they're

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Speaker 1: gonna go early. I mean, four quarterbacks in the top

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Speaker 1: ten feels like a lock at this point. Really yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think you know we're gonna see a handful

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Speaker 1: of pass rushers as well. Will Anderson's gonna go really early.

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Speaker 1: Tyree Wilson's gonna go very earlier. Cart Jalen Carter is

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Speaker 1: still gonna go very He's still gonna go, still gonna go.

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Speaker 1: Whatever you say. Yeah, at Lucas van Nesse from Iowa

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Speaker 1: continues to climb, He's gonna go early. So I think

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Speaker 1: it's you know, it's good news for Bills fans. You

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Speaker 1: don't need a quarterback. Yours is pretty good, so you

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Speaker 1: want more quarterbacks to go early, push down better position players.

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Speaker 1: But I think we will see a run on edge rushers.

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Speaker 1: We'll see a run on corners. So I think that

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Speaker 1: you know, by the time you get to twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: you know, your hope is somebody has slipped through the cracks.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Tremaine Edmonds is going to fit in

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Speaker 1: a price range where the Bills are going to be

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Speaker 1: able to retain him. I think the demand for his

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Speaker 1: services by thirty one other clubs is just going to

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Speaker 1: shoot his number through the roof, whether that's right, wrong,

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Speaker 1: or indifferent. So with that in mind, I'm like scanning

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Speaker 1: through these linebacker prospects and there are a handful that

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Speaker 1: are appealing to me. The thing that I keep coming

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Speaker 1: back to, though, is natural instincts, where they are an

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Speaker 1: anticipatory player, not a reactive player, and it seems like

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Speaker 1: they are becoming harder and harder to find they are,

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Speaker 1: especially at linebacker's it is you're at because in college,

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Speaker 1: so many of these guys are just fast, so they

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Speaker 1: don't have to have instincts because they can be a

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Speaker 1: half a second late reading the play, but they're so

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Speaker 1: fast they make up for it. So yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: struggle with that too. I think Drew Sanders from Arkansas,

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Speaker 1: if you're trying to replace Edmonds, is that player who

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Speaker 1: has been long right, six foot five, incredible length. He

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Speaker 1: was at Alabama, transferred to Arkansas, became a captain, became

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Speaker 1: a leader. Yet like you know, several sacks this year,

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Speaker 1: three force fumbles, a pick, led the team in tackles,

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Speaker 1: almost led the country and tackle So he has that production.

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Speaker 1: You know, he has the instincts, I think. So let

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Speaker 1: me ask you this about him specifically. First, what's the

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Speaker 1: range where people think he's coming off the board two?

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Speaker 1: Some people believe he might be a better fit as

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Speaker 1: like a three to four outside linebacker rusher because they

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Speaker 1: like his rushing ability almost more than sitting him in

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Speaker 1: a middle linebacker spot in a four to three. Is

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Speaker 1: there a general consensus on best fit for defensive scheme?

644
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: And where do you think he's coming off the board?

645
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: Where he comes off the board is probably early round two,

646
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Speaker 1: even though I mean his workouts last night were really impressive,

647
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: so you like like that, and we talked about it.

648
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: It's a weak class this year, so he could get

649
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 1: pushed up a little bit. I think you could definitely

650
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Speaker 1: play him on the outside and I think he would

651
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: be just fine. It would take some development would be

652
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: the key. So you know, almost in a sense like

653
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons where he came in he's a linebacker, but

654
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: you saw some rush potential and they started pushing him

655
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,959
Speaker 1: that direction. Drew probably doesn't have that upside, but but

656
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: it's a similar situation at least after you get by

657
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. How many guys are there in the top

658
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: of this draft through the first second, first or halfway

659
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Speaker 1: through the second or maybe further that you think are

660
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Speaker 1: day one guys in the NFL, Yeah, not many. Just

661
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: to be honest, it is a you know, a weaker

662
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Speaker 1: class when you when you talk about how many guys

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00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: are gonna be day one starters. I think it's more

664
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: developmental this year, you know. And it's it's surprising because

665
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: we do have a lot of fifth and sixth year

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Speaker 1: players because of the COVID year that people took for

667
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: because guys are standing college an extra year now because

668
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: of nil money. So those things that have affected this class.

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Speaker 1: I do think it. You know, a receiver at corner,

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00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: at tight end you can get starters in round two.

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00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: The other positions obviously running back you can get starters everywhere,

672
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: you know, but some of the other positions offensive guard,

673
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: offensive tackle are pretty weak in the second and third rounds.

674
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Speaker 1: And then I do think defensive tackle is way way

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00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: down this year. Tier for me, if you could the

676
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: receiver class at least with the first couple of tiers

677
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: only because Steve and I believe the value is going

678
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: to be there for interior old line in round one

679
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: for Buffalo at twenty seven, that might be more like

680
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: a sure thing than say the receiver class where there's

681
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: seems to be a lot of mixed opinions. So under

682
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: the let's go under the assumption that the Bills go

683
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Speaker 1: interior old line round one, and from what we've heard,

684
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Speaker 1: that first tier of receivers is down there at the

685
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Speaker 1: end of round one, early round two. Where is the

686
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: second tier probably late second, early third. I feel like

687
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: there's such a next round down yeah, I mean it's significant.

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00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: So well that's not bad because the Bills is picking

689
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: late round too, so that might work. And I think, Chris,

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00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: it's how many receivers go in the first round. You know,

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Speaker 1: if a player like Zay Flower slips around two, well

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Speaker 1: he's gonna go early round too. If he slips, Jalen

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Speaker 1: Higher from Tennessee Piece slips, it's going to be early

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Speaker 1: round two. So I think that's where that drop off comes,

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00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: you know, from maybe the first six receivers who will

696
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: be top forty picks. After that, it's like you're really

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00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: starting to reach for players. And then you get into

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00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: the late second round of guys like Cedric Tillman from

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00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: Tennessee or Rashi Rice from SMU Josh down from North Carolina.

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00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: You start to find some of those guys who maybe

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00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: they're short, maybe they're a little bit slow, but but

702
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: can still be good players. Okay, what about the much

703
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: ballyhood tight end class. I know, Dalton Kincaid is kind

704
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: of like everybody's top guy because he can give you

705
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: at least a little something in the blocking game, and

706
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: then he runs like a deer out there. We do

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00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: we think we're getting to a point where teams are

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00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: becoming more and more conscious, and I guess Mike Gisicki

709
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: is the perfect determined for this. Gasicki was franchised on

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00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: a team that didn't want to use him, yeah, because

711
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: he would be too much of a tell for the defense,

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00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: Like we're throwing here. We got a tight end on

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00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: the field, but he's not blocking. And you know, we

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00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: talked to Brandon being earlier this week, We've talked to

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Speaker 1: a couple other gms, and there seems to be a

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Speaker 1: genuine concern about Yeah, we love the pass catching traits

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00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: of the tight end, but when we put him on

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00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: the field, is he just like putting another receiver out

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00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: there and we're running ten personnel, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: So there's not a tight end in this class that

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Speaker 1: is a lead at everything. And they're hard to find anyway.

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Speaker 1: But is there a line to be drawn in the

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Speaker 1: tight end class where you say, I want a guy

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Speaker 1: that can at least give the threat of blocking in

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00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: twelve personnel and maybe bring that third lineback around the

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00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: field instead of that team saying you're throwing, we're sitting

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Speaker 1: in nickel. Yeah, no, there are those guys. Michael Mayer

728
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: from Notre Dame is that guy. He's your classic end line,

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00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 1: you know, good blocker, very good receiver of the middle.

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00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: If you want the disguise ability and your personal packages,

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Speaker 1: you draft Darnel Washington from Georgia who's six foot seven

732
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: seventy pounds and it's the best run blocks tackle and

733
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: he might be a better run blocker. But I mean,

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00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: but he's also you know, but he moves. Yeah, he

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00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 1: does this. You're not just drafting, you know. And he's

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Speaker 1: blocker only. So I think he is the player that

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00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: if you really want to get creative, and you guys

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00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: have a great tight end and Dawson Knox right, but

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00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: if you want to get creative, Darniel Washington's the guy

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00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: where you have the defense has no idea what you're

741
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: doing when you put him on the field. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: thanks very much, Matt. We appreciate you spending some time

743
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: with us. We know you've got a busy week here,

744
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: so thanks for carving out a little bit for us.

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00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: I feel smarter having talked to you, so thanks very much.

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00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: We'll look forward to more of your work on ESPN

747
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: dot com as we get closer and closer to the draft.

748
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: You got mocks coming up, I'm sure rocks coming up,

749
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: big boards coming up. It's that time of year, so

750
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: it's something new every day. I love it. Thanks Matt,

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00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 1: we appreciate it. We got to take a break here,

752
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 1: but plenty more coming your way with our combine coverage

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00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: here on One Bills Live, presented from by Kalid to Health.

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00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, we're back here at

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00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: the NFL cob Buy and having way too much fun

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00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, and unfortunately, our producer Jay Harris is the

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00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: butt of most of us. We drive today in a

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00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: big SUV that we rented, drove all the way from Buffalo,

759
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 1: and we're gonna park it in a parking parking. It's

760
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: a big suv. I will give you that. It's a

761
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:15,479
Speaker 1: land yard and I'm and no less than I ain't

762
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: no less than five times did he try to park

763
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: that thing in that slot and could not fit it in? Well,

764
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: And listen, there's only there's like a parking space, and

765
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: then there's like three empty. He's on the end and

766
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 1: there's like three empty beside him. So just to paint

767
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: the picture the parking garage as you would expect, as

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00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: you know, it's a recline, it's a ramp for every level,

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00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: and they are the angled parking spaces. And the mistake

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00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: that Jay made was he decided he wasn't going he

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00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: wasn't going to pull in, pull straight into the space.

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00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: He was going to back in, which automatically puts your

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00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: driving prowess at a distinct disadvantage because you're coming at

774
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: a forty five angle like this. To park in a

775
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: forty five angle space like that, and in a giant suv,

776
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: navigating that turn, even with a backup camera with guardrails

777
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: is a challenge. So I'm still I'm the only one

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00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 1: still in the vehicle with him at this point in time.

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00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: And then he tells after the first reverse situation, he says, Okay,

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00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: you guys can get out. I said with pleasure at

781
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: that point there are five onlookers witness. Why wasn't a heckler?

782
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: I was just bent over in laughter. I actually pulled

783
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: an abdominal muscle. I think I was cackling so hard

784
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't control myself by the third attempt,

785
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: because he kept backing up in the same exact place

786
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: where he was right. He changed anything. He pulled backwards.

787
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: It was right in the same spot. He could not

788
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: get the v it was parallel to the line. It

789
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 1: was not even close to being in that parking space.

790
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 1: And yet he got out like like he got outside.

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00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: I'm good, right, he kind of got yeah, he kind

792
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: of did the short strokes, got this, he goes and

793
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: I said, you want to look at what you just

794
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: did this? And the car is like sitting cockamami inside

795
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: the lines, tire over gets out of the car like

796
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: I can kill it, Like I killed that looking at it,

797
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: I'm no jay. So then he gets back in, get

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00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: back in there and do that again. And I said, oh,

799
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: he did it again and again times and again. I said,

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00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: why don't you just pull halfway up the ramp and

801
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: park across the middle so you can ruin everybody's day

802
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: not just hours. It was off. So after he finished,

803
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: abdominal muscles hurting, I run out of coffee. My coffee's empty. Yeah,

804
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: I can't even I don't even have anything to do.

805
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: While I'm watching this guy trying to park this, I'm like,

806
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: So after it's all done, I said, you know, Jay,

807
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: that was special. I'm reminded of the Austin Powers situation

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00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: and the golf cart the galls of an arena trying

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00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: to make a three point turning with that. That that's

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00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: kind of what it was, except he had a lot

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Speaker 1: more room. There were no wall behind. Oh my gosh, yeah,

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00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: I could not. He got out like he like, I

813
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: killed that. I'm looking at it was Jake, Look, Jay,

814
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: look look at the line. The line is going like

815
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: underneath the car at an angle. And it's not even

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00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: like he was scooted. He was in there straight and

817
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: it was a little too sorr at Ones. No, it was.

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00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: It was like a thirty degree angle and it was

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00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: halfway under the It could it could not have been

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00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: a worset parking job much when I started, much like

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Speaker 1: the uh, much like the grades that the NFLPA survey

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Speaker 1: revealed for the Washington Commanders that I was minus, Jay

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00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 1: got a G plus. I think we've harassed him enough.

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00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,479
Speaker 1: He's leaving. Uh, let's uh, let's let you know what's

825
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: coming up next, since we just filled eight minutes with that.

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Speaker 1: But man, was it worth it? We've got our good friend.

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Speaker 1: We could have we had to do it on a

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Speaker 1: fast forward to get it all. We couldn't. We couldn't

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Speaker 1: have done it. We couldn't have fit the entire process.

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Speaker 1: In this segment of radio. We think about it this way.

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Speaker 1: The guy's running here, only get two cracks at the

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00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: forty he had six shots to part um. But the

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00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: coming up an hour number two because we got to

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Speaker 1: get out of here. We're coming up an hour number two.

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Speaker 1: Are a Good Friend. Senior producer from NFL Films and

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Speaker 1: co host of the ESPN NFL Matchup Show, Greg co

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Speaker 1: Sell here in person for our number two Here on

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live presented by Collid to Health, It's Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio one Bills Live presented by a Health All Right. Combine.

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Speaker 1: Coverage continues here on one Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve

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00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: tasking with you live from the NFL Combine and what

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00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: better way to end the week as we do almost

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00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: every week during the regular season. Here in the Flesh,

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00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: not on Zoom, senior producer from NFL Films and co

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00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: host of ESPNS NFL Matchup Show. It is the one

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00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: and only Greg co Sell who's got reports everywhere. He's

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00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: typing them up, he's printing him out, he's bringing out

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Speaker 1: with him. He's got his cheat sheets here. And I

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Speaker 1: have to start with the receiver class, Greg, because the

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00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,959
Speaker 1: Bills probably are in the market for a number two.

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00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,479
Speaker 1: A number two receiver that's proven in the league may

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00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: cost too much, and the Bills find a number two

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00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: quality receiver that maybe if he's not ready week one,

854
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: might be ready by like week six, seven, eight to

855
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: really contribute to this offense. And I think that's something

856
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: that they do need. You know. I think that we

857
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: knows what Stefan Diggs is. You know, we've talked about him.

858
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: A great technician, he's clearly the number one with the Bills,

859
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: but they've struggled, I think, over these last couple of

860
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: years to really find that number two. At times it

861
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: looked like it might be Gabe Davis, but at other

862
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: times it hasn't really quite worked out. I think we'd

863
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: probably all agree that in an ideal world, he's probably

864
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: a three. So they're looking for that number two that

865
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: has ideally three level ability. That's what you really want,

866
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: because even though we've seen Diggs get vertical, Diggs is

867
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: not truly a vertical dimension. I mean, he can get vertical,

868
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: as we've discussed, because of his route running ability and

869
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 1: his ability to set up corners because he's really good

870
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: in and out of breaks. He's really good at getting

871
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: corners to turn and to get off their spot. But

872
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, he's not a true

873
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: vertical to mention, So they need a three level receiver

874
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 1: who can be a compliment but can be a factor.

875
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: And you drop some names, you know, yes I can,

876
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: And I think there's two that I would that I

877
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: particularly like based on because I've done a bunch of receivers,

878
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: I would say that Jordan Addison, who started at Pitt

879
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: and was phenomenal with Kenny Pickett and then played at

880
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: USC this past year. I would say he's one name

881
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: and the other name, and this is a receiver that

882
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: I ended up watching his twenty twenty targets, his twenty

883
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: twenty one targets, and his twenty twenty two targets because

884
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: I kept thinking he was going to come out, you know,

885
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 1: and he stayed, you know, and that's Zay Flowers. Now,

886
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: you know you're dealing with Zay Flowers. We do have

887
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 1: his height and weight because he was at the senior

888
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: ball and his size. I don't want to say it's

889
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: scare some, but you know, in an ideal world, you'd

890
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: probably like a receiver that's a little bigger because he

891
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: was five nine in a quarter on one eighty two Addison.

892
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: We don't have the confirmed Yeah, I guess they're doing

893
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: that maybe today or tomorrow here at the Combine, So

894
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: we don't have those confirmed numbers yet. He's he's certainly

895
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 1: not going to be two hundred pounds. He's another guy

896
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: that's a little smaller as one would be great, correct,

897
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: But I think both guys are somewhat technicians, relatively refined

898
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: for college receivers. They do give you a three level dimension.

899
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: Flowers is an explosive athlete, and you know, you can

900
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: use Flowers and Addison on you know, jet sweeps, tunnel screens,

901
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: bubble screens. They're good at those things as well. But

902
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: they are three level guys that can get vertical Okay. Now,

903
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: now the second problem bills pick at twenty seven, right,

904
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: either one of those guys going to be there, you

905
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: know what, I think one of them will be And

906
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: I can't sit here and say which one because receivers

907
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: tend to be in the eye of the beholder, you know.

908
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: People always stivers, you know, want to make lists of receivers.

909
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: I can't do that because I can't compare Za Flowers

910
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: at five nine in a corner one eighty two to

911
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: Quentin Johnston, you know, at six three and a quarter

912
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,959
Speaker 1: and two fifteen. I don't know how to compare those guys.

913
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: So I can't make a les. You don't have a

914
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: team to fit him into correct, right, So my guess

915
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 1: is one of these guys will be there at twenty seven. Now,

916
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how Brandon Being and Sean McDermott think

917
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: about these guys. I'm giving you, you know, obviously my evaluation.

918
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: So I got one right last year with James Cooks, right, so, hey,

919
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: who knows ten minutes after they picked him? No, No,

920
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: I told you I told you before, right right right,

921
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: right right. With respect to these two receivers not being big,

922
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: you know, not, the separation is a huge part has

923
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: to be a huge part of their game if they're

924
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: gonna be good ATFL level. So are you seeing enough

925
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: consistent separation either at the top of the route or

926
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: right off the snap if they're you know, if the

927
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 1: guy's in off coverage, you know, how are they getting

928
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: off press? Man? I mean, I realize there's not a

929
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: ton of pres man, it's usually not um So what

930
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: is your assessment of them in terms of consistent separation?

931
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: Because we're envisioning, like from from last year's offense for

932
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: the Bills, the biggest thing was that was missing, at

933
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: least in my opinion, was the easy button throws for

934
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: Josh correct And so can one of these guys bring

935
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: that to the Bills offense? And I think they can't.

936
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. And here's here's an individual. I'm

937
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: sure you know TJ houshman Zada. Sure. Now. TJ is

938
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: now a trainer of receivers and he is a big

939
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: believer in the two things you just talked about. He said,

940
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: the most important things are release and then at the

941
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: top of the route right, so you have to separate

942
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: and those two things are not necessarily a function of

943
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: pure speed. Or you know, which is why a lot

944
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: of these drills, you know, particularly running the forty. You know,

945
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: I used to sit with a coach you probably know,

946
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: Al Sanders, very good friend of mine, and he said,

947
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: I would love to actually see guys run of forty

948
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: in the position they would be, you know, leaving the

949
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage as opposed to an attract stance, because

950
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: that's what they do in football, right, right. But the

951
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 1: point I'm making is you just hit on two things

952
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: that are absolutely critical. And you can see my note

953
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 1: here about say, Flowers did not see many reps versus

954
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: press man. So the question is, but but you can

955
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: help that with formation, with motions, you know, to learn

956
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: technique right right, right, teach you can teach that. Yes,

957
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: So it's a little bit of a projection for Flowers

958
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: because you haven't seen enough of it, right, And I

959
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: think for most wide receivers in college football, particularly in

960
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: all these spread offenses, you don't see a lot of

961
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: press man. You just don't because first of all, there

962
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 1: aren't that many good corners, and college defenses don't play

963
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: a lot of that because the field is so big

964
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: that depending on the formation, there's not a lot of

965
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: help over the top. So you don't see a lot

966
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: of press man, right, So give me an idea about

967
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: a little bit further down the list. So if the Bills,

968
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,479
Speaker 1: you know, go into your offensive linemen in the first

969
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: round or whatever, and I haven't done a ton of

970
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: these guys, Yeah, you get down a little bit further

971
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: down the list. We've been told this receiver class lacks

972
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: Julio Jones. It does. Calvin had a great conversation with

973
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: a wide receiver coach the other night and we both

974
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: agree there's no alpha dog in this class. That which

975
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: means that you can get receivers down the line. And

976
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: then it depends Brownie, as you were saying before we

977
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: you know, we started doing this on the air that

978
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: you know, what are you looking for? You know what

979
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 1: kind of receiver do you want? I mean, there's a receiver.

980
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: And I have his notes too that I absolutely loved

981
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: Jonathan Mingo from all Miss Jonathan Mingo is six one

982
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: and this is because he was at the Senior Ball

983
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: six one and three eighth two twenty six. I really

984
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 1: thought he was one of the most intriguing receivers I watched.

985
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: I really liked him. You can line him up anywhere. Now.

986
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: He's totally different from Flowers and Addison. But I wouldn't

987
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: be surprised if at this size and he's going to

988
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 1: run tomorrow on Saturday, it would not surprise me if

989
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,479
Speaker 1: he runs under four or five. Yeah, I just see.

990
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: And the thing that I wrestle with is like, Okay,

991
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: we've got these nice guys Addison and Flowers, do they

992
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 1: are they too closely aligned with the kind of receiver

993
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 1: that Khalil Shakier is, who I think is going to

994
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: make a nice jump here in years because he finished

995
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: the season very strong. Yes, And so it's like, well,

996
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: are they locking themselves in? I mean, you hear best

997
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: player available all the time, But if there's a cluster

998
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: of receivers, do they lean more towards a size player

999
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: like a mingo who's six one and three eights two

1000
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: twenty six. I mean, that's that's a guy that's forty

1001
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: almost fifty pounds bigger than great. Do they need that?

1002
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: And it's a great point because, as you said, it's

1003
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: something popped into my head. What do we know about

1004
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. He's not shy about throwing the football, He's

1005
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: he's not a risk averse thrower. He's gonna throw it, okay,

1006
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: and he's got arm arrogance. That's that's a great phrase. Hell,

1007
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna steal that from you. I stole it. He'll

1008
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: go ahead, Okay, I'm gonna then steal it from whoever

1009
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: you stole it from. I love it so anyway, So

1010
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: sometimes when you have a quarterback like that, you want

1011
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: a bigger receiver who can be more physical and more

1012
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: competitive going up to get the football because Josh is

1013
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: going to throw it, yeah, and it's gonna be whether

1014
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: you get separation or not. Right, So you know, that's

1015
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: why receivers very often become in the eye of the

1016
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 1: beholder and how the team sees it. Brownie, you could

1017
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: well be right. I mean, I love Flowers, okay, I

1018
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 1: loved his tape, did him for three years. Really like Addison,

1019
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: good prospects, But maybe they're gonna look at a five

1020
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: nine and a quarter guy and say that's not what

1021
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 1: we want right now. We got three of them, yeah,

1022
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: because because if you recall and we don't know what

1023
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: you here is going to do this year. Although I

1024
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: think we'd agree based on what he did toward the

1025
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: end of the year, it looks like he's an upward

1026
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: trending player. Yeah, and probably they're slot, right. And if

1027
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,919
Speaker 1: you recall, I really liked him going into last year's

1028
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: dray so I thought he could be a really good

1029
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: pro and I think he will be the slot guy.

1030
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: Um and it seemed like Josh developed a little more

1031
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: confidence in him later in the years he did he

1032
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: was throwing him the football, So you know, they may

1033
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:56,959
Speaker 1: want to look at a guy like you know, again,

1034
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if they like him or not. I do,

1035
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: but the fact is he's all you know, he's over

1036
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: six one and he's two twenty six, and he is

1037
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: put together and he's super competitive. What are we thinking

1038
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: in terms of his versatility though as a receiver limited

1039
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: to no, no, no no. And I actually thought, you know,

1040
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: I hate making these comparisons because people listening are gonna think, Oh,

1041
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 1: I'm saying he's the exact guy, and I'm not. That's

1042
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: not what I'm saying. But I think the way his

1043
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,280
Speaker 1: body type is and the way he plays the game,

1044
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,959
Speaker 1: there's a little a J Brown and Deebo Samuel to him. Okay, Now, again,

1045
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: I don't want people to say I'm saying, hey, he's

1046
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: that guy. He's gonna step in and be Deebo Samuel

1047
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: day one. That's not my point, but he plays that way.

1048
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 1: He had great formation versatility. He lined up in many

1049
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: different spots. You could even line him up in the backfield.

1050
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: You know at times that if you want to do

1051
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: some of that stuff. So he's he's a guy that

1052
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: you don't have to throw it to him. You can

1053
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: hand it to him, and so you can do you

1054
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,919
Speaker 1: can do some stuff. Yes, he's an athlete. Yes, he's

1055
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: an athlete. All right, I love that. I'll sign up

1056
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: for that. UM is there anybody I don't know if

1057
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: you've gotten to tight ends yet, but this is a

1058
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: tight end class that's getting I've just done concavee, all right,

1059
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: So let's I did in May or last summer, not

1060
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: yet this year. So let's talk about the tight end

1061
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: class this way. Because I raised this point to Brandon

1062
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: being this week and knowing based on some of the

1063
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: people we've spoken with this week, there's a cluster of

1064
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: receivers at the end of round one, top of round two.

1065
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: They say the next tier may not come off the

1066
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: board till the bottom of round two early round three.

1067
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: That's a big gap. So, if you're a team that

1068
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: could use talent in the passing game and the receiver

1069
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: value doesn't line up, how do you feel about pivoting

1070
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: and going to a pass catching tight end to solve

1071
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: what you need in your passing game? If receiver value

1072
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: is terrible, where your picket? He would be my question,

1073
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: And this now is a philosophical question that Ken, Dorsey

1074
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: and Sean need to figure out. I've always liked Dawson Knox, okay,

1075
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: and I think you guys do too. I think he's

1076
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: a pretty athletic guy. I think he can work the

1077
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: intermediate levels. I think he can run the scene. You know,

1078
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: he's pretty athletic guy, absolutely to me. And again I'm

1079
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: not in the meetings. I'm not part of the process,

1080
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 1: so I don't know how it all gets played out.

1081
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: But I feel like there's more that can be done

1082
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: with Dawston Knox. Now, maybe you want another tight end

1083
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: as well, particularly one that can spread the formation, and

1084
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: Dalton Kaide is certainly that guy. Now, I really love

1085
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: Dalton Kinkaide's tape. I think ultimately what he is is

1086
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: he's really more of a split tight end. You know,

1087
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: obviously he had a block a little bit, you know,

1088
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 1: you can as he's detached. Yes, as long as guys

1089
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: want to, you can teach them blocking. I remember talking

1090
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 1: with a coach, you know, in Kansas City about Tony

1091
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 1: Gonzalez early in his career wasn't a blocker at all,

1092
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 1: but he wanted to. So, you know, so you become

1093
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: a good enough blocker. Yeah, at least you get yourself

1094
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: a chance. Right, Yeah, you know. But Daln Kinkaide to me,

1095
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: and again, I'm not comparing him to Travis Kelsey because

1096
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: Kelsey's going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer

1097
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: and arguably the best pass catching tight end we've seen.

1098
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: But kid can be used in that way. You know,

1099
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: you can split him out, he can be a boundary X.

1100
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you can use him in those kinds of ways. Yeah,

1101
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: I mean, because the classgo is pretty deep. You have

1102
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: your athletic freaks like Darnell Washington, and then you've got

1103
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: other guys that have great production like Mike Mayer Mayor.

1104
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: He might not be a high end athlete, but he's

1105
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: a do everything tight end. He comes on the field

1106
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,439
Speaker 1: in twelve personnel with another tight end. Right, that defense says, well,

1107
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: they might run the ball, but they may throw it too.

1108
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: Do I want to put the third linebacker on the

1109
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: field or do I want to stay in nick? Right,

1110
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: it gets into offensive philosophy again. Now with the run game,

1111
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: which we've talked about throughout the season. How do they

1112
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: see the run game now working as they go forward?

1113
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people are are pointing to

1114
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: what happened in the Super Bowl as an example, and

1115
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 1: you know, and then they point to the Bills. Look

1116
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: what happened in the second half. They were down ten

1117
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: and everybody probably assumed, Hey, it's a Patrick Mahomes game,

1118
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 1: He's just gonna come out and toss it all over

1119
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: the yard. And what did they do? They came out

1120
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: with maybe as as diverse a run game as the

1121
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: Chiefs had shown all the year, right, you know, And

1122
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: I mean that's a problem. And I think what happens

1123
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: is at the point where you get in these drafts,

1124
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: and like Brownie says, there there are times when your

1125
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: guy gets snatched. Yeah, and you gotta pivot, as you

1126
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: call it. Um, you're not gonna take an offensive player

1127
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: at all. You're gonna take a corner, You're gonna take

1128
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: a d line you're gonna take a forever linebacker. U.

1129
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: The Bills have a unique set of problems this year

1130
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: where they're they're gonna miss their their alpha dog linebacker.

1131
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: They're alpha dog safety who's been an All Pro. They've

1132
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: got some needs they've got to fill, and they're projecting

1133
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: this draft class in an offensive league against those needs.

1134
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,919
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a difficult book. I mean, I think

1135
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: the assumption is, and you guys would know better than

1136
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: I being in the building, but I think the assumption

1137
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: is that Edmonds is not going to be back, right.

1138
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: That's I think it's gonna get priced out. I think

1139
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be getting I think it's gonna get a

1140
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: huge number. Okay, And if that's the case, they need

1141
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: to fill that role. And you know, there is a

1142
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: player that I have watched and he actually worked out

1143
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: yesterday who I think, just character wise stylistically would be

1144
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: really good for the Bills, and that's Jack Campbell I

1145
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: really like from Iowa. Yeah. I mean he I was

1146
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: sitting in the dome yesterday in the front row and

1147
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: I even got it to go on the field and

1148
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: he's six five, legit, you know, maybe he's gonna be

1149
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: six four and whatever. But I mean he's a big man, yeah,

1150
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: and he stands up yeah. And he is really really

1151
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: good in the box. He's really smart. He actually tested

1152
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: better than I think a lot of people thought. I

1153
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: love his film, and you know, unless he tested poorly,

1154
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: that wasn't going to be an issue for me. But

1155
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: he actually I think of all the linebackers, he had

1156
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: the second best vertical jump. I mean, you know, things

1157
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: that people look at, you know, you know how that goes,

1158
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: whether that means something or not. You know, people do

1159
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: look at it, particularly scouts, because they say, well, hey,

1160
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: the guy's the biggest why can't you do something with Exactly,

1161
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: it's not me, it's you. Exactly. That's how my job

1162
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: shouldn't be on the line. So, you know, to see

1163
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: his point, Brown he maybe you know, because they're gonna

1164
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: need to fill that position, yeah, you know, I mean

1165
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: that's an important position in the defense, No it is.

1166
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: I was kind of thinking that they'll sign a free

1167
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: agent that's not as costly, maybe like an Al Singleton

1168
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: from Denver who's thirty years old, won't cost as much

1169
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: as the Tremaine Edmonds, and then backfill with a draft choice,

1170
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: probably not high in the draft because they've got other

1171
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: needs that they have to fill. I mean, we'll have

1172
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: to see what they do in free agency. Safety is

1173
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: another position, and the safety class is weak. So with

1174
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: that in mind, maybe I'm gonna throw a couple of

1175
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: free agent names at you. Tell me what do you think.

1176
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: I know, Adrian Amos did not have a great season

1177
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: last year, so right, he's a proven player. The safety

1178
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: class is pretty deep, by the way. In free agency. Yes,

1179
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: there's a lot of starting safeties yea free agency. So

1180
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: Adrian Amos was a guy I thought they could afford,

1181
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: you know, thirty years old, not super costly. Thornhill's an

1182
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: intriguing guy from the Chiefs, much younger. He's probably looking

1183
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: to make big money. I don't know where the money's

1184
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: gonna come in. But does anybody like really appeal to

1185
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: you that isn't going to break the bank. I'll tell

1186
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: you who I really like, because I know him well

1187
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: and I liked him going back three years before he

1188
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: came a full time staughter. I really like Marcus Epps, okay,

1189
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: and I think he's interchangeable. I think you're gonna need that.

1190
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: I think he can fit what the Bills want to do. Okay,

1191
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: and my senses with this safety class in free agency,

1192
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: which is pretty good that I'm not sure Apps is

1193
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: going to be at the top of the list money wise, Okay,

1194
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: but I really like Marcus Epps. Knowing what I know

1195
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: about the Bills and what I've seen them do in

1196
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:32,959
Speaker 1: the past, there's gonna be a name like these names

1197
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: we're talking about. We're Bills fans in the normal outside

1198
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: of the people. If we go down and look at

1199
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: the list, right, are gonna say who like they got

1200
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer. Those are the first two

1201
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: guys they sign. Who are they right? It's gonna be

1202
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: kind of those night turned into guys that are that.

1203
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: These guys feel like fit their system and they're gonna flourish.

1204
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: The other player, I really like Brownie, but he may

1205
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: be a little more of a true box guy. I

1206
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: think that's a strange. I think he can play on

1207
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: the back end, but I don't know if that's his

1208
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: straight I really like Donovan Wilson, Okay. I think his

1209
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: tape's really good. He's physical, He's a swagger guy. He

1210
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: brings a swagger to your your defense. Now, I think

1211
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: he can play on the back end. I just don't know,

1212
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: if you know, if that's where you'd want to play

1213
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: him a lot. Yeah, physical downhill player. Can he play

1214
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: in the back You know, he shows up on film,

1215
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: but he can he shows up on film all the time. Okay,

1216
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: how old is he? Because I don't even know what

1217
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: his age is, I don't know. I don't think he's

1218
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: played a long time. I can't imagine he's oh yeah,

1219
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. I'll listen

1220
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: to that because I think they're again. I think Payer

1221
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: is going to be priced out of their market as well.

1222
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: So I really don't expect ed man. It sounds like, Look,

1223
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: I know it always comes down to money, but Payer

1224
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: has been making a lot of comments you know about

1225
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: you know, taxes and where he wants to play and

1226
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: all that. So who knows, you know. But but I

1227
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: don't think they'll sign resigned him either. So I know

1228
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: you mentioned Jack Campbell. Drew Sanders is another line back

1229
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: I haven't done yet, but the Alabama transfer, went to Arkansas,

1230
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: became a team captain. Really let it up there. Um.

1231
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: The dichotomy there in terms of an opinion on him,

1232
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: is he flashes so much as a pass rusher right

1233
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: that I'm wondering if there are gonna I if the

1234
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: demand for him is going to be that much greater,

1235
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: because there might be some three four teams that see

1236
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: him as an outside linebacker, rush off the edge guy,

1237
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 1: which would be a new thing. Em mostly stacked. But yeah,

1238
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: but he did show he could rush the quarterback, right,

1239
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 1: and so then so my concern is that guy flies

1240
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: off the board because not only are four three teams

1241
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: interested in what he can do as a middle but

1242
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: now you got three four teams that might say, you

1243
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: know what we can work with that. Well, it's a

1244
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: money spot too, you got well, yeah, edge rushers, corners, qbs,

1245
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 1: you know those are money spots. Yeah yeah, and yeah,

1246
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: it's just like quarterbacks get pushed to the front of

1247
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: the draft, so do these edge so do these other

1248
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: money positions guys get overdrafted. And when he got a

1249
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 1: guy that's got that kind of ability and those kind

1250
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: of measurables, teams would take a chance on him. Yep, Greg,

1251
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: good to be with you. Thanks for making time for

1252
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: us and joining us on yet enough, it's right to

1253
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: be with you, guys. This person we'll catch up with

1254
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: you as we get closer and you've got more of

1255
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: these for us to work sheet off of by the

1256
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: time the draft comes off. Two. That's great. Yeah, yeah,

1257
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: back back in the back in the tunnel or the basics. Right,

1258
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: what do you you got to have like a nickname

1259
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: for your little office? Right? Did you call it the cave? Now?

1260
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure your wife's got a nickname for what she called.

1261
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: I don't call him anything. It's just, you know, I've

1262
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 1: got my setup because I don't work at home. You know,

1263
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: I lived nine minutes from the office. I probably work

1264
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: seventy hours a week, but I don't work at home,

1265
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, because I can go to the office. You know,

1266
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 1: even on weekends. It's nine minutes. You know, it's no

1267
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: big real you know, it's like going for a loaf

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Speaker 1: of bread. Yeah. So it's I just you know, that's

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Speaker 1: what I do. I've got my whole set up. I'm comfortable.

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Speaker 1: That's the way I do it. All right. Well, enjoy

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Speaker 1: your meeting with coaches and talking ball here this week,

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Speaker 1: and we know you're doing some of that, ye and

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Speaker 1: we'll catch up with you as we get closer to

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Speaker 1: the draft. That's great. Co Sale Senior, producer from NFL Films,

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Speaker 1: co host of the ESPN NFL Matchup Show, will take

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Speaker 1: a break here, be back with more from the end

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Speaker 1: Fell Combine and Indie on One Bills Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. It's live at the

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Speaker 1: NFL Combine in Indianapolis, our last day here on site.

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Speaker 1: We'll have full wrap up coverage on Monday when we're

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Speaker 1: back in studio in Orchard Park at One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you final half hour before

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Speaker 1: we get to the tweet sheets from the obl Fan

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Speaker 1: Friday mailbag. Sabers made a trade. Sabers made a trade.

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Speaker 1: That's right they have. Thanks for the alert, Steve. The

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Speaker 1: Sabers have traded this year's second round pick and next

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Speaker 1: year's fifth round pick to Minnesota for big left winger

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Speaker 1: Jordan Greenway, who goes six six, two hundred twenty six pounds.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty six years old. He's a native of Canton,

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Speaker 1: New York. This season, he's averaged about thirteen minutes a

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Speaker 1: game of ice time, two goals, five assists in forty

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Speaker 1: five games played. Interesting to see here, Marty and Duffer

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Speaker 1: targe about it tomorrow when you know where they're gonna sit,

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Speaker 1: not tomorrow, Tomorrow, Monday, where he's gonna be slotted, that

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Speaker 1: kind of thing, when we're gonna see him on the ice,

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. He's six six thirty, let's goal.

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Speaker 1: He's a big boy. So you are up to date there.

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Speaker 1: Now we pivot to the obil Fan Friday mail Bag,

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Speaker 1: which as always is brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems,

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Speaker 1: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Tiffany

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Speaker 1: starts us off with the following question. Steve coach McDermott said,

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Speaker 1: you constantly have to evolve each league year. Do you

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Speaker 1: believe the defense will have a more aggressive approach, especially

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Speaker 1: the way the defense performed in the past two playoff losses. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think it will be different. Whether we'll be able

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Speaker 1: to notice it, or whether it'll be you know, painfully

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Speaker 1: evident or you know, joyfully evident. It's gonna be different.

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Speaker 1: Somebody else is going to be calling the place. Leslie

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Speaker 1: Fraser's not going to be calling him, and that's what's

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Speaker 1: so you get a different feel for it. Certainly, Sean

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Speaker 1: mcdermot's hands are gonna be all over this defense and

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Speaker 1: al Holcom's hands are gonna be over it. You know.

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Speaker 1: Bob Babbage, who's gonna have the lead voice in the room,

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Speaker 1: will have a lot to say about it. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be different. Whether it's an aggressive or less aggressive,

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Speaker 1: or or just a different style altogether. It'll be interesting

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Speaker 1: to see how it stacks up, both with your casual

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Speaker 1: eye and with you know, the statistics. How do they

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Speaker 1: line up together? And it'll be fun to watch. We

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Speaker 1: have breaking news on the Bills front as well. The

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Speaker 1: Bills have resigned Ike Butcker to a one year contract.

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Speaker 1: He was set to become a free agent. You can

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Speaker 1: get all the details at one at Buffalo bills dot com,

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Speaker 1: so check that out. But it's a one year deal

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Speaker 1: for Ike Butcker to come back and resign. So the

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Speaker 1: Bills have begun their efforts to retool the offensive line

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Speaker 1: and at least get numbers back at that position. They

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Speaker 1: had four players set to become free agents, including Butker.

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Speaker 1: So Butker back for another year, and you know it's

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Speaker 1: a guy you can probably get back in an affordable

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Speaker 1: price tag. If you remember, he's coming off the achilles injury.

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Speaker 1: Missed more than half the season last year. Came back,

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Speaker 1: was worked back into the lineup, served mainly in a

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Speaker 1: backup capacity, but he is another player with guard and

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Speaker 1: center experience, so there's that it has begun. That's right.

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Speaker 1: But getting back to the question from Tiffany, I do

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Speaker 1: think they're going to be more aggressive because you know,

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Speaker 1: you think about coach Fraser taking a year off. We

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Speaker 1: still have yet to find out how his duties and

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Speaker 1: responsibilities as defensive coordinator are going to be divvied up

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Speaker 1: or handled by a singular person. We'll have to see

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Speaker 1: who that is who's calling the plays on game day.

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Speaker 1: So these are questions that they are working through right now.

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Speaker 1: Coach McDermott, I guess in due course, will let us

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Speaker 1: know what the plan is going forward. But it was

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Speaker 1: interesting that Ron Rivera was asked specifically about Sean McDermott

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Speaker 1: as a play caller after the Leslie Frasier news came

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Speaker 1: down earlier this week, and Ron Rivera very quickly and

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Speaker 1: succinctly said, Sean McDermott is an aggressive play caller. I

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Speaker 1: tend to think that the play calling on defense will

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Speaker 1: be more aggressive. And when we had coach McDermott sitting

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Speaker 1: here with us, Steve. You know, I relayed the stat

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Speaker 1: to him that he was probably all too aware of

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Speaker 1: third and four, third and five defensively against the past,

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Speaker 1: the Bills gave up a conversion rate of fifty nine percent.

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Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say that does not meet

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Speaker 1: coach McDermott's standard. And I know there was a lot

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Speaker 1: of fan criticism at the end of the season that

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Speaker 1: the Bills were too passive defensively. So no matter what

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Speaker 1: the decision is going into twenty twenty three, I certainly

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Speaker 1: whether you want to stamp them as an aggressive defense,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to do that, but

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Speaker 1: I think they it's safe to say they're going to

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Speaker 1: be more aggressive than they were last well, at least situationally, yes,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean I never go through the stretch

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Speaker 1: this year where you know, it was always third and

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Speaker 1: twelve or third and fourteen, and they gave up It

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Speaker 1: seems an inordinate amount of conversions on third and long

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Speaker 1: this year just because of the style of defense they

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Speaker 1: were playing, and man, it was frustrating, and I know

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Speaker 1: we heard it from fans throughout the seasons. Don't know

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Speaker 1: if that'll change or how hard yeah, or what will

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Speaker 1: look it will look like. But I think there is

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Speaker 1: going to be a big difference in how this defense

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Speaker 1: looks and feels to the fans. Whether it will stack

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Speaker 1: up statistically statistically with the way it has been over

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Speaker 1: the last five years because Leslie Fraser had him at

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Speaker 1: the top of every category statistically. We'll see, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they're willing to give a little bit of you know, analytics,

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Speaker 1: you know, domination to maybe playmaking a little bit more. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's a mix of scheme and personnel. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: next from Jack, what's been the buzz with wide receivers?

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Speaker 1: Seems like the meat might be days two guys who

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Speaker 1: are those in the know excited to see or who's

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Speaker 1: making a good impression very intrigued by Ohio states Smith

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Speaker 1: and Jigba. I think he could be there at twenty

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Speaker 1: seven or if they go elsewhere, Jalen Higlott, Jalen Hyatt

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Speaker 1: could be a nice round two guy. Yeah, it's hard

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Speaker 1: to say, Jack, because there they haven't worked out yet.

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Speaker 1: They're only meeting the media today. They will work out tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: So as far as workout numbers, will get more of

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Speaker 1: a sense tomorrow on those players. I think Smith and

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Speaker 1: Jigba has some stuff to prove here. First of all,

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Speaker 1: that he's healthy after playing only two games is past

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Speaker 1: season due to a foot injury. So after lighting it

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Speaker 1: up as one of the top three receivers the previous year,

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Speaker 1: when oh, by the way, he had Garrett Wilson and

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Speaker 1: Chris lave in the receiving corps with him, only plays

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Speaker 1: two games this year. Granted he still has Marvin Harrison

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Speaker 1: Junior with him, but then he gets hurt and he

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Speaker 1: misses the rest of the year. He's got to prove

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Speaker 1: that he's healthy. I think he's got to run well

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01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 1: because he is an undersized guy, and he has to

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Speaker 1: look supremely sharp in his route running because he is

1405
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 1: being tabbed as one of the best route runners in

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Speaker 1: the class. Show it and then from there, you know,

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01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: you hope your film holds up for you and do

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01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: well in the interviews. That's right. You gotta, I mean,

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01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: you gotta hit it out of the park and be

1410
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: the right guy and fit the right scheme. But you know,

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01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 1: some of these guys have whatever questions they have about him.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing that you got to know the player

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01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: himself and his representation should know what those questions are

1414
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: and have a plan for answering them in a positive way. Now,

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Speaker 1: when you get on the field, there ain't no hiding it.

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01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 1: You got you gotta do it. On interviews, they can

1417
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 1: coach him up. They can coach him up and say

1418
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 1: the right things and be the right things, have the

1419
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 1: right mindset going in to sit down and talk to him.

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01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 1: When they get on the field, there's no hiding what

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Speaker 1: you can and cannot do, and that's sometimes worth these guys,

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01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: that's the only place where they can't practice enough to

1423
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 1: get out of it. Jalen Hyatt has a great highlight reel,

1424
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: but he's largely a straight line athlete. Really only ran

1425
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Speaker 1: about three routes in college, the go, the deep post,

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Speaker 1: and the quick slant. Didn't really run anything else. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he's a guy that can help you

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the field, because we haven't seen

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Speaker 1: him do it, and he's kind of high cut. Those

1430
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Speaker 1: guys that are all legs have trouble dropping their weight

1431
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 1: and getting in and out of breaks. So can the

1432
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Speaker 1: guy even execute a double mood at the NFL level

1433
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Speaker 1: and get separation. I don't know. So I think there

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Speaker 1: are question marks on Hyatt from that perspective, and I

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Speaker 1: would agree with Jack. He's probably around two guy. Is

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Speaker 1: he appealing to the Bills? He certainly has size. Does

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Speaker 1: he have enough versatility to offer something different than say

1438
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:59,600
Speaker 1: a Gabe Davis. I don't know, and that's something for

1439
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Speaker 1: the Bill to have to decide. We heard Greg co

1440
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Speaker 1: Sell last segment talking about Jonathan Mingo from Ole Miss

1441
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 1: a player with size at six one and a half

1442
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: two twenty six, not going to have sudden explosiveness, but

1443
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 1: certainly has a wide catch radius. You would think that

1444
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 1: would mesh well with what Josh Allen does, as he's

1445
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 1: not afraid to give his receivers chances. Where does he

1446
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: fall He might not be until the top of round three,

1447
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 1: but that's to be determined later on down the line. Here,

1448
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Speaker 1: let's go to another question here in the mail bag.

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Speaker 1: This is from autumn. She said, if there was one player,

1450
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 1: and only one player that you would pick for the

1451
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:44,759
Speaker 1: Bills at any position as your dream player to add

1452
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 1: to the roster, who would it be and why? Oh,

1453
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Speaker 1: it'd probably be one of the left tackles at the

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Speaker 1: top of the draft. Roderick Jones from Georgia's probably from

1455
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Speaker 1: Georgia and he'd be high on my list. It's a

1456
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Speaker 1: guy that looks to me like a guy's gonna play

1457
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 1: left tackle in the National Football League for fifteen year

1458
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 1: or maybe as long as he wants to and walk

1459
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 1: off and have a shot and at the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the kind of physical physicality brings to

1461
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 1: the table's athleticism all that stuff. So yeah, then then

1462
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 1: you you're set to do whatever you want. You pull

1463
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: him in and you know, all of a sudden, even

1464
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 1: even Dion Dawkins, he shuffles down. I mean, Deon goes

1465
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 1: the right tackle and this guy comes in, plug him

1466
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Speaker 1: in or left tackle, and how about this. Think about

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01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 1: this for a second. Broderick Jones and left tackle, Dion

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Speaker 1: Dawkins and left left card Mitch Morris at center. Yeah,

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01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 1: run it left baby to do whatever you want. Then yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm all about it. But that's what I

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Speaker 1: would say too if I like that, because it's just you.

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Speaker 1: You ever say can't miss, uh, but you want guys

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Speaker 1: not only who know they're can't miss prospects, but who

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01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 1: play like they they have to prove it every day. Um,

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01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 1: you got some of those guys in this class, and

1476
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 1: it starts out up front. I'd be I don't know

1477
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: if i'd call my dream player, but he's pretty close.

1478
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:06,719
Speaker 1: Broderick Jones, the left tackle from Georgia, who I watched

1479
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 1: his junior tape and then his senior tape. There was

1480
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 1: a very encouraging progression from junior year to senior year.

1481
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 1: Junior year on the ground a lot senior year, not

1482
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 1: nearly as much, almost a rare occurrence in senior So

1483
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:23,719
Speaker 1: it kind of gives you the sense like he's putting

1484
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 1: it all together, and if he takes another step at

1485
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 1: the NFL level, you could be a really, really good player.

1486
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: The Unfortunately, I've kind of got a man crush on

1487
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 1: Drew Sanders, that middle linebacker from Arkansas. So if you

1488
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 1: can't get Edmonds back, that would be a dream player

1489
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 1: for me. I don't know where he's coming off the board.

1490
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 1: It might be in round two. Hard to say. So

1491
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 1: that's a guy because you know, if you if you

1492
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 1: lose the guy in the middle of your defense that

1493
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 1: calls the plays and has for the better part of

1494
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: the last five years, it's a big hole to phil.

1495
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 1: I know it's not necessarily a premium position like quarterback,

1496
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 1: pass rush, your wide receiver, corner or left tackle. But

1497
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 1: it's not far off, so you can get that guy.

1498
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: His film is great. He impressed me. Covers a ton

1499
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 1: of ground. He's just as long as Edmonds is. I'm

1500
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 1: really curious to watch him test. He was a five

1501
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,839
Speaker 1: star out of high school, couldn't get on the field

1502
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: at Alabama because he's playing behind some other five stars.

1503
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 1: Goes to Arkansas and just crushes it. He goes to

1504
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 1: Arkansas and really spreads his wing there. Captain on a transfer,

1505
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,600
Speaker 1: like new guy in the room, dropping in out of

1506
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 1: the sky, and they make him a captain. That that

1507
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 1: says a lot about the kind of guy he is,

1508
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 1: much like the Bills were enamored with Tremaine for the

1509
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:48,799
Speaker 1: same reason. You want a guy that when he speaks

1510
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 1: and calls a defense in the huddle, guys are like, Okay,

1511
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: let's go. He seems to be that kind of guy.

1512
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 1: It's it's an impressive resume he brought with him after

1513
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,640
Speaker 1: transferring away from Alabama to get on the field and

1514
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 1: playing so well at Arkansas that it says a lot.

1515
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 1: It's a little bit like that, and you know there's

1516
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 1: they're completely different guys, but Russ Wilson did the same

1517
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 1: thing when he came and went to Wisconsin. After playing

1518
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 1: baseball and all that, he emerged as the guy that

1519
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: they rallied around as well at Wisconsin. So it's that

1520
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:23,679
Speaker 1: kind of willingness to move and do something to get

1521
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 1: on the field and making it the right decision after

1522
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: the fact. So that's the mail bag in a nutshell,

1523
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 1: and some interesting comments, you know what. We're talking to

1524
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 1: Mattie earlier about some of the things that players were saying.

1525
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 1: The Kentucky quarterback Will Levis, who could go you know,

1526
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 1: somewhere in the first fifteen picks. Maybe he lasts a

1527
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 1: little bit longer, right, somebody asked him why he made

1528
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 1: the decision to throw at the combine. His direct quote,

1529
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 1: because I've got a cannon and I want to show

1530
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 1: it off. It's not lacking for confidence. He's got confidence

1531
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 1: Too's gonna show that off. That's cool. Um, some of

1532
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 1: that's hyperbole, but here's Yeah, it happens every year, and

1533
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say I kind of chuckle about it

1534
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 1: or whatever. But these young guys come in and they

1535
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 1: play at those Power of five schools, and they and

1536
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 1: it's it's nice. You got eighty thousand people watching in,

1537
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 1: you got big time TV watching in. You're on a

1538
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 1: big time bowl game and a lot of attention. When

1539
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 1: you step out of the tunnel in an NFL game,

1540
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 1: everybody on the you are unimpressive to everybody else on

1541
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 1: the field, Nobody else is looking at you like, remember

1542
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So if he says I

1543
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 1: got a cannon for an arm, so does every backup

1544
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. You know? So, Um, It's not

1545
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 1: about how far you can throw it, right, it's that

1546
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,759
Speaker 1: you can hit people. Yeah. It's just a different world

1547
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 1: up here. And I love these guys that come out

1548
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:54,600
Speaker 1: with confidence and because you know, either they have dominated

1549
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 1: wherever they've been well, and if you don't believe in yourself,

1550
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 1: what the heck are you doing? I got it? Um, Yeah,

1551
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 1: believing in yourself has nothing to do with the words

1552
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 1: that come out of your mouth. Okay, So I'm yeah.

1553
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 1: It always makes me like okay, you know, because I've

1554
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 1: seen so many you got it all figured out. Listen,

1555
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 1: we live in a Josh Allen, Pat Mahomes, Joe Burrow,

1556
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert Trevor Lawrence world. I don't know who Will

1557
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 1: Levis is. Maybe he belongs in that crew. Let's just

1558
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 1: say this. I'll believe it when I see it. Let's

1559
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 1: see it. So he's coming up to throwing. Good for him,

1560
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 1: you know. Some other quarterback news. This from ESPN Giants

1561
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:41,759
Speaker 1: reporter Jordan ran On. He said he's heard in recent

1562
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 1: days that there has been progress between Daniel Jones and

1563
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 1: the Giants on a new contract extension. He's not the

1564
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 1: first person to report that, but he does have this

1565
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 1: getting something done by Tuesday does not seem unreasonable based

1566
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 1: on the progress that has been made to this point.

1567
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 1: They have until Tuesday to put the tag on Daniel Jones.

1568
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 1: If along contract does not work, then, he says this Steve,

1569
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 1: it sounds as if there will be a four at

1570
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 1: the front of the annual salary, which would mean Daniel

1571
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: Jones is getting at least forty million per year on

1572
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 1: a contract extension, which would be a significant bump up

1573
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 1: from the franchise tag, which is thirty two million. How

1574
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 1: do you feel about paying Daniel Jones, who threw all

1575
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 1: of fifteen touchdown passes last season, forty million dollars a season. Well,

1576
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 1: I know that, I know Brian Dables got to have

1577
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 1: a lot of confidence in his ability to get the

1578
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 1: most out of him. He did it this last year.

1579
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 1: After one year. Now, maybe day Ball and his crew

1580
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 1: believe there's a lot more in the tank for Daniel Jones.

1581
01:20:55,720 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 1: If they believe that, I'm okay with it. Okay, if

1582
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: they're just doing it so that they don't have to

1583
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,759
Speaker 1: put up with a giant New York Giant fan base

1584
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 1: that is upset that Daniel Jones isn't under contract, or

1585
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 1: that you're gonna take a step back and try and

1586
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: find somebody else and you're gonna be in purgatory for

1587
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 1: all that time. If you're assigning him to that just

1588
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:24,639
Speaker 1: for that, I think that's a bad move. So yeah,

1589
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to pay what I've seen. I don't

1590
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 1: want to pay Daniel Jones forty million dollars a year.

1591
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 1: I get that the quarterback position is important and that

1592
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 1: the price is always going up and all that. Man,

1593
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 1: that is a tough pill to swallow, and it's because

1594
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 1: of the production. I'm not saying Daniel Jones. I'm sure

1595
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 1: he's a great team rad Yeah, yeah, I'm sure he's

1596
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 1: probably even a good leader. I'm fine but it's just

1597
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 1: hard for me to get past fifteen touchdown passes. He

1598
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 1: ran for seven. Okay, so it's a total of twenty

1599
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 1: two man alive. Like, look at his last three years.

1600
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 1: He's never had more than fifteen touchdown passes in any

1601
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:03,759
Speaker 1: one of those seasons. Even with Dable, the number couldn't

1602
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 1: spike now. And I understand it's an offense that ran

1603
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:10,719
Speaker 1: through se Kwon Barkley first yea. But forty million dollars

1604
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 1: a year for a guy that through fifteen touchdown passes

1605
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: Jacoby precent through fifteen touchdown passes, I know somebody's got

1606
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 1: to help me with that. The math does not and

1607
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 1: I work. You just don't want to. I don't want

1608
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 1: to see a team, you know. I just question the

1609
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 1: wisdom of putting yourself in a financial corner because of

1610
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 1: a guy who's not worth it. Right, all right, we

1611
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 1: gotta take a break here, Steve and I will close

1612
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 1: things up on our Combine coverage next here on one

1613
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,799
Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by a lot of health. It's Buffalo

1614
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 1: Bill's read all right. Here we are for our final

1615
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:50,639
Speaker 1: segment of live in person coverage at the NFL Combine

1616
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. Chris Brown Steve Tasker are ready to close

1617
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 1: up the week that was at the Combine. So Steve,

1618
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:00,799
Speaker 1: tell me the biggest takeaway in terms of knowledge gained

1619
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:04,680
Speaker 1: here in Indy. What do you got? I think the

1620
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 1: Bills are sitting actually right now, I think this will change,

1621
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 1: but right now the Bills needs match where they're gonna

1622
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 1: pick in this draft. They're gonna get some really good players.

1623
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna get some guys that are either

1624
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 1: wide out a corner or wide out, an interior offensive

1625
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 1: lineman or a safety even I mean a tackle offensive

1626
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 1: tackle lift. They so desire to get one, and they're

1627
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 1: gonna get a good one. Um So that that gives

1628
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 1: me some some comfort. Maybe in round one and two, right,

1629
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 1: I think out might line up. I think all six

1630
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 1: of the draft picks in this draft will probably have

1631
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 1: a chance to me to actually end up on the

1632
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 1: field this night. Like no practice squad guys think they're

1633
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 1: gonna be active roster guys with a chance this year.

1634
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:51,560
Speaker 1: The thing I took away, and this came from coach McDermott.

1635
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 1: He was talking about finding football players and he said,

1636
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 1: when you're looking for a football player, you want instincts,

1637
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 1: and he kind of harped on that and was trying

1638
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 1: to drive home a point I think more than I've

1639
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 1: heard from him in the past. And so I think

1640
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 1: they're going to be looking for prospects that can demonstrate

1641
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 1: instincts anticipatory skills, particularly on the defensive side of the ball.

1642
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 1: So if a guy like Tremaine Edmonds isn't back, you know,

1643
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 1: I think they're looking for an instinctive middle linebacker, kind

1644
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 1: of in the Luke Keekley mold that he had down

1645
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 1: in Carolina. Yeah, well, everybody's looking for Luke Keekley, but

1646
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 1: we got you know. We'll see, though. It's gonna be

1647
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:36,600
Speaker 1: interesting free agency on the horizon. We'll see how the

1648
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 1: draft turns out. Our thanks to our crew back at

1649
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 1: Network Control in Orchard Park. Thanks for connecting us and

1650
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 1: making us look good back here. Thanks to our crew

1651
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 1: here on hand, including Maddie Glad, Josh Pulman, James Acting,

1652
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 1: Jonathan Harkey, and our producer extraordinaire Jay Harris, who I'm

1653
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 1: frightened to say is got the first drive back home.

1654
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 1: We'll see him Monday.