WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys Break: Ups & Downs In Oakland 0:00:01.520 --> 0:00:06.720 This is the Talking Cowboys Break, streaming live on Dallas 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:11.840 Cowboys dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys Out Welcome 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:16.520 inside the SWBC Mortgage studio for a little Talking Cowboys 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:21.960 Break Rob Phillips joined by Nick Eatman, David Hellman, Mickey Spagnola, 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:26.200 Kent Garrison producing next door Inside the Garrison. Cowboys beat 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:33.839 the Raiders by eight paper thinnest. Hey saw what I 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:39.320 did there, Dave you Punster twenty to seventeen to stay 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:41.639 alive in the wild Card Race. One of the wildest 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:45.080 games you will ever see. Maybe I should start here 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:48.120 with a couple guys that have over the league for 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:50.280 a long time, cover the Cowboys a long day. You 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:52.680 ever seen one like that? No, that took the cake. 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:54.760 I was sitting next to Dave on the way back 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:56.680 and I was doing the math. That made me do 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:59.400 the math on how many games I think I've covered, 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.720 and we were right around four hundred. Mickey, I know 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:05.560 you're probably a lot more than that, probably another zero 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:10.160 on there, but zero. But I know a kid, but 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:13.640 I've never. I've never. I can't remember one. And even 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:16.200 if there had been some crazier games, not one with 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:19.120 the season on the line. Like do all these things. 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:24.200 The season is over and I don't remember one like that. No, Dave, 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:26.160 in the last five years, have you seen one like that? No, 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:29.160 that was Game one O two and that takes the cake. Man, 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:32.640 you were the one that said it. Yet, like all 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:35.880 that's all that stuff. I mean the width of an 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:40.480 index card between first down and turnover on downs. Not figuratively. 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:43.160 They literally took an index card out and used it. 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:46.480 Not we're not hypothesize. That's what I wrote. I've never 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:48.600 I've never said the word index card in any of 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:51.160 the columns I've ever written. It was his. It was 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:52.920 his note card, you know how they take it out 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:54.840 and they write their stuff down on it. Yeah, it 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:57.400 was your tweet today you brought back some science terms. 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.160 That's the only thing I've ever used an index card 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:05.240 for his like flash cards like mitochondria, uh DNA, you know, 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.240 like you flip it over and you got the definition 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.560 on the back for your biology quiz. Like that's what 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:12.520 I use. Index compressive that he had one at on demand, 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:14.680 like he already had one in his podcast. They carry 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:18.919 it with him. Yeah, they like they write down the timeout. Yeah, 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.720 and I'm something They got a nokate for after the game, 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:26.360 pull it out on the Raiders break this morning, they're 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:29.400 asking why are we folding it up? Then? Yeah, I 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:31.840 made it so it was kind of thick. Maybe he 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.920 wanted thicker, so it was a first doubt. Actually, I 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:36.960 think what Derek said when we were eating lunch. He 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:40.120 used it as a ruler to go from where the 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:45.000 stick was to visual mick, Yeah, he said, yeah, so 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:47.280 he was trying to line it up like parallel to 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:50.880 the ground. Did y'all read the the I wrote the 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:54.080 stories uncomfortable just to read it as I don't know 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:57.560 who asks the question, Tim Wait, how you say his name? 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:01.280 Gene's territory or it was know this he was in there, 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:04.320 but a bulldog kind of ruined a season, right the 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:07.400 des ref Yeah, this is I think Deaz even said 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:09.360 he was like, well, maybe this makes up for that, 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:11.800 and he stopped and he was like, nothing makes up 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.880 for that. But at least we got that right. Seens 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:18.000 territorious And I mean, you know, fourth and inches on 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:20.960 the goal line, like you do you go for the touchdown, 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:26.160 then your cornerback I'm like, who who? All four of 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:28.840 us thought that Anthony Brown blew that game? Right. He 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:30.600 said it after the gate, he said, I thought I 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.040 let my team down. I had a lapse, should have 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:36.080 had the pick. And then what was a fifty five 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:39.320 yard penalty on Jordan Lewis right after that, and that's interference. 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.840 You're set up in the Oakland red zone or that, 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:44.840 I mean the Dallas red zone, and I remember telling Derek, 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:47.400 you're looking at the clock. You're like, man, they might 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:49.680 have a chance. If there's eighteen seconds here, there's only 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:51.480 time to run two or three players. But they had 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:53.600 forty They had forty four seconds from the time they 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:57.160 got set up there until game over. I mean, I'm 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.120 just like, there's no way you're keeping them from at 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:02.840 least tying the game, if not winning. And then Jeff 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:06.280 Heath happens, you know, and Jeff Jeff Heath always happens. 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:09.640 Jeff he that's going, Mickey, that's a lion right there. 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:13.680 Jeff Heath always, you know. And I'm tweeting that out 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:17.040 later today. Jeff as Heath, well, everybody wants to cut him. 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:19.920 It's always all he does is make plays. The play 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:22.799 he made two plays in a row, like the second 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:25.159 down pass over the middle of the crabtree. He knocks 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.279 that ball down. That was a big play. Now, I 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:29.560 was also Hitchens got hurt. And then on third down, 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:33.040 of course he makes the hit, but he's, you know, 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:36.279 just just the irony I guess of him not picking 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:39.640 up the fumble earlier in the game, and then he's like, 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:41.920 don't worry about it. I'm gonna make I'm gonna save 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.800 the season here later. And he saved the season for now. 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:48.200 And he if he had his choice, he wouldn't have 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:51.719 talked afterwards. He doesn't like he hates that. It doesn't 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:53.279 matter of Sack. I thought he was gonna do it 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.039 with his hood on his he had to like a 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:59.000 hoodie switch, and he finally pulled it down. Well, there's 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.560 voice never goes up and down. I know I wasn't there, 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:05.520 but it was. His first two answers were, yeah, I 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:07.400 was just kind of any other play, you know. I 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.440 just chased him down. You're inflecting too much. Yeah, it 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.120 was like kind of any other player, you know. I 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:14.880 saw him running, you know, I thought I could get 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.320 the corner. Uh, you know, he reached out and I 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:19.839 just saw it. I pushed him and grabbed something real quick. 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:21.280 I saw I went through the end zone. Yeah, we 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.600 haven't even gotten there, haven't gotten there yet. Here we go. 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:27.400 There he is. See he's been with us now with 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.600 the team. Just I mean, okay, I speaking of Ezekiel Elliott. Yes, 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:37.040 I get it. I'll stop beating this horse in a minute. 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:41.640 But like we're an index card and a fumble through 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.040 the end zone away from like who cares? Like you're like, 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:45.919 do you even play him? What's the point? You know 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.640 what I mean? And now you're saying and you know, 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.240 the Cowboys still they got to win two games and 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:53.920 they need help, Like their odds of making the playoffs 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:57.279 still are not great, but all that crap had to 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:59.520 go right for them to even have it, for for 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.440 this Chris Masive game to even mean anything. And now 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:05.080 you got Zeke back, and it's just that's so this 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:09.040 season though, it's it's so yeah, can I piss off 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:12.120 a lot of our fans? Absolutely? You got to give 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:14.720 Jason Garrett some credit here, you have to. I don't 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:16.960 know that. If they don't want to, that's fine. But 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:20.280 you know the coaching Green Bay, their their team. Where 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.520 did they go four and four something like that? Three three? 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:24.640 I mean, kept kept a float there with Aaron Rodgers 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:26.920 was your best player. It didn't look good and there's 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.360 no doubt about it him oh and three start. But 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:31.680 they found a way to kind of keep grinding here 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:33.719 and and figuring out how how to win without some 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:37.159 key players, not just Zeke. So you know, I thought 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:39.640 they've they've done a nice job of just making it 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:42.039 relevant here at the end. Well, we could speak to 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:44.840 three plays in particular that he called or he had 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:50.880 ultimately signed off on the fake punt. Amazing. I mean, now, 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:52.960 was that a Chris Jones special? Was it? Was that 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.599 a look he got you talked to him. I think 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:59.240 they my guess, and he wouldn't tell no, and they 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:00.800 don't want to say, you don't want to say what 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.960 the key was, right, And I'm thinking, you know, the 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:08.320 guys upstairs probably head he punted before. That wasn't his 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:10.800 first punt, was it. I think so the third quarter, 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:13.960 because they did do that for you. No, they had 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.560 punted some because I know they went a long time 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:20.200 without punting. It seemed because you had an interception, touchdown, 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:24.240 field goal touchdown or something like that. Yeah, they they had. 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:26.560 I'm pretty sure they had pus. He punted at least 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.640 once in the first half. Okay, so maybe they saw 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:31.960 something upstairs and said, hey, beware if they line up 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:36.720 like this, fourth and eleven from your I know eleven, hey, 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.400 And we were sitting there, Nick goes, he only ran 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:41.440 twenty four yards and I said, yeah, you forgot the 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:46.840 ten ye standing behind the right scrimmage. He was running forever. Well, okay, 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:49.400 so whatever, that's a lot of nerve. Well there's that, 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:55.040 and then the next play, I believe they run a fleef. Hey, 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.040 how long you've been calling for that? In years? I 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.920 love it. I love the play. I would honestly, I've 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.600 said it a thousand times. I don't see why you 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:06.800 wouldn't run it almost once a game. I don't know why. 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:11.320 What would be the drawback there, especially if Zeke's on 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.360 the field exactly what Zeke on the field. It's different 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:16.320 because if that safety's thinking when he gets the boat, 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:18.640 we'll watch out, because he could pitch it back. That's 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.600 exactly what you want. Now, it doesn't have to be 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:23.560 a fifty yard bomb all the time. I don't think 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:25.200 he even threw it to the right guy. I think 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.520 the other guy streaking over the middle man and if Terrence, 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:32.920 I mean he stopped running, y'all see it looked at it. Yes, 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:36.680 he stopped running. Yeah, it's like he's slowed up. But 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:40.280 I love the call. I love the back to back, 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:43.719 like we got to do something here. The irony it 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:47.040 looked like quarters coverage, like it wasn't there at all. 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:49.000 If I need to see it again, if there was 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:50.880 a guy opened over the middle, I didn't see him, 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:54.199 but like Terrence, that was not there, and I mean 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:56.760 it didn't come back to bite him. You know in 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.400 college with the three guys or receiver passes like a 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.960 reverse pass, yeah, and they try to tell the receiver 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:04.000 like if it's not there, don't throw it. But they've 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.920 been practicing this play forever, right you No, they're gonna 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:08.720 throw it. Yeah. I still feel like that's the way 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:10.200 it is with when you do a flee flicker, like 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:13.080 I'm throwing it. I feel like that was um two 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:15.720 years ago. The McFadden passed to Hannah like it wasn't 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:17.600 there either, and he was like, well, we've been working 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.160 on this forever. I'm gonna chuck it. It was like 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.560 at the tail end of the twenty fifteen season, I mean, 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.560 they called to play, so might as well run it. Yeah, 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:26.600 and it's like, well, I can either run for no 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:28.600 gain or just try to throw this pass and it 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:32.240 didn't work out. But remember that play yep a once 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.320 a game that's your car because like I'm just thinking, 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.160 like how many times do you see that during an 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:39.240 NFL season? Real? Okay, don't that played that often? Right? 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:41.760 But this is why number this is why I would 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.199 do it. Number One, you have an offensive line that 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:46.199 that can hold up because you got a block, you 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:48.120 gotta turn and pitch and all that kind of stuff. 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:52.000 And two with Zeke, those safeties are always trying to 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.520 cheat it kind of cheat up forward a little bit, 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.080 so I don't I don't know. I mean maybe that 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:00.679 that's too too much. But how is team's gonna I'm 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:02.480 onto you guys. You guys would like to do the 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:05.880 flee flicker like okay, yeah, stay back. Yeah I might 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:09.200 not stay back there because we could be pitching it 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:12.400 back and then you don't do it twenty eight times 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:14.320 a game, and then you're safety just take oh man, 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:16.680 I gotta go. That might be all you need for 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:18.840 a four or five. I just don't see the drawbacks. 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:22.439 I've asked them some coaches before. Anyways, I love the call. 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:24.959 I love the aggressiveness there in those two plays. Yeah, 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.680 two in a row by the coaching staff. And then 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:33.240 we mentioned the index card play well before that. Actually, no, 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.280 that's the same play or going for fourth and one 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.320 on your own thirty nine And I looked at you 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:40.280 guys were on the Cowboys sideline. I was like, they 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.160 have to be lining up right now just to try 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.000 to draw off sides, and they ran the play. I 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.600 just I was surprised. I know they trust their offensive line, 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.080 but the game is tied. It's tied. You're not in 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:52.800 a desperate situation. Necessarily, you play to win the game. 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.079 I get it, but I mean, that's a gutsy call, man, 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.200 It's a hell of a gutsy call. But it should 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:02.240 always be the call, honestly. Thirty nine Yeah, not midfielding. No, 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.880 I can't stop the quarterback and they didn't stop it. 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.280 And it doesn't matter about the day part or not. 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:10.319 They're gonna throw Jason Garrett had his flag in his hand. 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:13.440 If that was gonna be that's uh. I've heard, and 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:14.840 I haven't had a good look at it. We were 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.800 on the sideline by that point. But I've heard from 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:20.000 so many Cowboys fans that are like, if you look 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:22.080 at the overhead, it's not even close. Kind of like 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.319 go back to Green Bay when Zeke reached the extra 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:27.160 half yard or whatever. If you say so. I mean, 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.079 if if Jason Garrett was willing to throw his flag 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.040 over it, that's great. But they got it. There were 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.920 multiple players that said it was a bad spot. That 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:38.040 was an extremely bad spot because when he hit the pile, 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.600 his head was further and then he reached the ball 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:45.839 over somebody's shoulder and at that point he was way 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.360 past that line, which is fine, which to your point, 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.200 all of the credit in the world that Jason Garrett. 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:54.000 I loved it, and then you get down on the 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:56.360 goal line and I'm just like, you gotta, you gotta 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:58.360 do it again. You have to, you gotta, And he 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.280 didn't and it worked out. But I wanted that one. 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.960 I wanted the one last aggressive. I think they should 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:05.840 have gone for it on fourth down, the one and 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:08.600 not just that. But if you want to nitpick Jason there, 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.560 Rod Smith has kind of become your hammer down there, right, 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.400 And they went to Alfred who who they trust, But 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:15.959 I didn't work out. You end up going with a 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.080 conservative call. Would you think of that, Mick. I thought 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.160 of going for it because the worst thing that could 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.199 happen is they got the ball to one yard line 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.120 and the odds of them going all the way. But 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:27.400 then you're saying, Okay, I'm going in zone for a touch, 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:30.880 I'm probably going yeah right, I'm probably going into overtime. 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:32.760 And I think the way that game was going, the 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:34.319 last thing you want to do is go over what 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.800 I think people are forgetting too that if the Raiders 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:40.360 get the ball at the one yard line and you 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.720 Cowboys have two timeouts, I don't think they're gonna be 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:46.400 like overly aggressive like because they're gonna try to I 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:49.160 mean where they wouldn't think so they might run Marshawn 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.120 a couple of times. Maybe you call time out, maybe 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:54.040 you don't. You might be getting a punt back around 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:57.760 midfield with about twenty five thirty seconds to go. I had. 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.400 I had the same feeling when they kicked that goal 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:03.080 that I had when Dak scored against Screen Bay, like 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.640 that it's this and I thought about that in my 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:07.880 head too. I didn't want to kick to Patterson And 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.720 I even said to you or I said, I what 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:14.880 if there's some fifty yard PI. Like I was already 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:18.800 thinking about that and that happened, which is weird because 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.200 when he was kicking that direction, he was getting the 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.079 ball deep in the end zone. Yeah he did, And 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.280 then that one landed right at the end line, I 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:29.120 mean the goal line. He just like hapif Will was 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.240 the other I saw what he was warming up going 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:33.640 to our right. They were coming up short, but to 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:35.720 the left. He was powering it through the end zone, 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:37.720 and then that one came up, and I'm sure they 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:39.719 weren't sitting there going, oh, let's kick it so we 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:42.040 can go down and tackle him inside the twenty five 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:45.760 after he's already returned one against you for a touchdown. 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.640 Goodness for the penalty. Right was barely getting checked on 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:52.800 at one point, though he did. They showed it on television. 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:56.760 He got hit from behind, tried to make the tackle 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:58.719 on the one of the retacks, right, Yeah, the one 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:00.560 that was fumbled. I think he got hit by one 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.200 of his own guys, as a matter of fact, if 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:05.440 I remember correctly, and something happened with his leg. I 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:07.240 don't know if it was a bruise or he got 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:10.560 his ankle caught, but yeah, I think that gets didn't 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.280 that called a game winning field goal? I believe that's 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.400 a game winning field Taylor was asking me about that 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:18.040 last night. I don't. I would call it a go 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:20.760 ahead like game winning to me implies that it was 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:22.560 like the last play of the game. But or you 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:24.920 like you know, but yeah, I mean it was. It was. 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:28.240 It was the deciding points, whatever you want to call it, 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:31.040 it was. You could have made that one from no, no, no, 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:34.000 I couldn't know. Jeff Heath might have been able to yes, 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:35.960 sor I was rolling that night. They should have thrown 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.400 him out there. Just let the goat do goat things. 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:42.080 Russell Wilson sacks seven times last night. What all right, 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:43.800 we'll talk about them lay well, yeah, we'll get to 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:47.400 big picture stuff for sure. Have they quit, we'll see. 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.400 There's either that or they're gonna be pissed off as 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.800 hell right now. That's im I know, because they're gonna 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.000 get home on Christmas morning at like one am. I 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.920 know that I know very well what happened to Seattle. 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.920 But write them off at your own peril, that's oh yeah, 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:04.520 I think we've learned. This is a week to week league, right, Yeah. 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:08.040 Cowboys lose three straight games by twenty or more points. 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:10.680 You think they're done, and then they rise up and 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:14.240 win three straight. Now they're eight and six, eight and six. 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.160 And look at the Raiders. Everybody wrote them off after 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:20.160 they got behind last week twenty what was the twenty 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:24.360 six to nothing before they even scored, and all they 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.920 were talking about was how embarrassing the effort was. And 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:31.600 then they give that effort. Yeah. I asked Jason Witton 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:34.600 about it last night. I was like, where where does 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:37.680 that rank for you? You know? And he like, though 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:41.920 he threw out oh six wildcard loss, the fumbled field goal, 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:47.600 the Dez catch game, and then the playoff game last January. 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.320 I mean, it's right up there in the top three 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:54.400 or four craziest at least craziest fourth quarters. That I 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.760 mean that, I think anybody you two struggle to come 0:15:57.800 --> 0:15:59.680 up with something. Any other can go. You can go 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:03.240 back to the regular season game in Buffalo when Romo 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:06.480 got intercepted five times and turns it on at the 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.200 end and they end up pulling the game out. But 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:11.640 I think you have to factor in the stakes like 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:14.080 with this. Oh yeah, because that was an October game, 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:17.160 regular season game. Yeah, this is technically a playoff game. 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:21.080 I mean in a way when the Detroit game the 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:26.200 week before in the twenty fourteen uh playoffs were I mean, 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.040 I'm just thinking of, like, really this controversial call. It's 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.560 like it's like there's like what every time I think 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:33.200 about I mean, I think back and I'm like, oh, 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:35.600 that game was wild. Like oh, like when Green Bay 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.080 came back on him here in twenty thirteen, that was wild, 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:41.480 but like it was all so much more normal, you 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:43.560 know what I mean, it was normal stuff. Yeah, it 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:46.240 would just plays, but it was just football. This is 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:49.680 this was something else between you know, the there there 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:52.320 what hey, there was a controversial catch call in this game? 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:55.120 Um what's his name for Moakland? I can't even remember? 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:58.200 Is the wide receiver? Uh yeah, forgive me for not 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:00.440 knowing his name off the top of my head. Was 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:04.720 it Roberts? Yes, Seth Seth Roberts. Thank you? That juggling, Yeah, 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:07.400 there was that. There was the index card the unlike 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:09.159 the challenge. It was the fumble out of the end 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:13.199 that you didn't kind of remember now every time you 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:17.040 see it on replay seven times really slow. But that's 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:19.600 not what the Cowboys coaches have. And it's like it 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:22.920 was third down that was a critical play. I didn't 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.760 mind the challenge. The ball was on the ground, it matter, 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.000 and they never got to see if his hand was 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.639 underneath the point of the ball when they showed him 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:33.800 over and over and over again. I didn't I didn't 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.520 hate the challenge, but at no point did I think 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:38.760 that they had a good chance of winning it. Really 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:42.120 after I saw it for the first time. But well, 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:47.280 well just it was crazy, bonkers bat s if you 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:50.680 will there, it is sat bleep crazy football game. Hey, 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:52.040 by the way, give us a call if you want 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:54.160 two one, four, eight seven two twenty one O two 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.240 chime in. Tell us if this is the craziest Cowboys 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.439 game you've ever seen. We're gonna take our first break. 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:02.800 We come back. We'll continue breaking down Cowboys twenty, Raiders seventeen, 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:05.680 and also look ahead big picture, what does this mean 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:07.959 for the playoff race? And Dave is raising him up 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.880 in the air bobblehead Zeke, the real Zeke is back 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.000 in the building today. We'll get to that next. 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