1 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: Hello, I'm welcome to save our protection of I Heart 2 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: radio and stuff media. I'm Annies and I'm Lauren Vogelbaum. 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: And today we're talking about nachos because they're the best 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: they are. And it's that time again. We're trying to 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: break our trend of not being timely, of being post timely. Yeah, 6 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: we're like we're months behind, but this time, but this 7 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: time we're right on time, because uh, it's about to 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: be the super Bowl, the big Game, Lauren, we don't 9 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: want to be sued. You can say the name, I 10 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: don't think, as long as as long as you don't 11 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: advertise with it, like, hey, check out my super Bowl podcast. 12 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: There you go, but that just did it. That's okay, 13 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: we have to go down. I'm alright with that. Yes, 14 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: And uh, we actually are pretty good about doing this 15 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: super Bowl. I think because a lot of the foods 16 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: people have traditionally at Super Bowl parties are delicious. Well sure, yeah, 17 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: they're meant to be like these wonderful, kind of indulgent, 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: like like sort of silly things. Yeah, and as I've said, 19 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: I think in our chicken wing one of them. I 20 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: don't watch it, but I do eat the food because 21 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: that's the best. Yeah, yeah, I'll watch it if, like 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: I go to Super Bowl parties. Sometimes the game is 23 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: usually on such parties. I might see some of it. 24 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: I might watch some commercials. Right, if someone invites me, 25 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: I'll happily go because I know food and drink game 26 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: will be on par But if it's just me for 27 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: whatever reason, oh yeah, I just make my favorites and 28 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: probably watch some dorky movie I've seen a million times. Well, 29 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: that's great, it is. It's it's all you know. Everyone 30 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: has reasons to celebrate, that's true. And if not, we 31 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: make our own, and that's wonderful. Yes, it is. And 32 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: definitely the cravings are already strong. I told I'm making 33 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: nachos this weekend. For sure, this was a horrifying episode 34 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: for craving, especially looking at pictures of nachos. It is 35 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: impossible to not be hungry. Right, Oh that's scientifically proven 36 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Yeah, But um, we are 37 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 1: still managing to be vaguely not timely because international with 38 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: the International Day of the Nacho, yes specifically is October 39 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: twenty one, Yes, and national here in American National Nacho's 40 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: Day is November six. National Tortilla Chip Day is February, 41 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: so like we're leading up to that, we're sort of 42 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: in We're in the mix or in the mix, just 43 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: like nachos, a lot of topics. Nothing is off the 44 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: table with nachos. But I guess that means we should 45 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: get to our questions, we should we should nachos? What 46 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: are they? Well, a lot of things can be nachos, 47 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: and nachos can be a lot of things. But like baseline, 48 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: you're talking about fried corn, tortilla chips um as sometimes 49 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: called tostadas um and some kind of cheese product that 50 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: is in a liquid state, served warm, and the cheese 51 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: maybe in that liquid state because it's been melted or 52 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: because it's a cheese sauce, sometimes both on the same 53 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: pile of nachos. Anyway, Yeah, cheddar flavored cheese products are traditional. Um. 54 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: Nachos are ostensibly supposed to be eaten with one's hands, 55 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: using the chips to scoop up the cheese um. And 56 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: the chips are crispy and crunchy and salty, and the 57 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: cheese is rich and gooey, and I'm taking a bite 58 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: of something with those contrasts and texture is just pretty 59 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: much just brain heaven exactly. That's exactly correct. Uh. But 60 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: although that description may convey like the heart of nachos, 61 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: it does not convey the nacho soul. The soul is 62 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: in the other possible to coppings and flavorings. Um. Spice 63 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: from hallapenos or or other peppers is traditional, but anything 64 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: goes from there. Um. Again, like these things are ostensibly 65 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: supposed to be finger food, and the chips are supposed 66 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: to be the delivery mechanism of all of the toppings. 67 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: And I have opinions about nachos that you're forced to 68 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: eat with a fork. I've never seen such nachos. Well, 69 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: just they get so soggy. Sometimes they can get way 70 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: down with the stuff and so eventually you just have 71 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: to fork it. You have to fork it. You know. 72 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: That is a key because you don't want the chips 73 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: to get saggy so they can't hold up the toppings 74 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: right right. And also a saggy chip, yes, sad. The 75 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: crunch is part of the experience, definitely. So those other 76 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: toppings Mexican or Mexican e things are common black beans 77 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: or pinto beans, corn, chopped tomatoes, onions, cilantro, avocado, some 78 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: kind of fresh salsa or like people tagaio or guacamally 79 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: pulled chicken, drizzles of hot sauce and cranma um. Also 80 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: stuff that I mean Americans put on tacos, uh, like 81 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: a like like shredded lettuce and ground beef and sour cream. 82 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: But then then there's a whole other world out there. 83 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: What about what about barbecue tacos with like whatever version 84 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: of smoked meat and barbecue sauce you favor in your area? 85 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: What what about buffalo chicken tacos with like chop celery 86 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: and blue cheese crumbles and chopped buffalo chicken fingers and 87 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: ranch dressing? Uh? What about what about other proteins like 88 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: bacon or fried chicken chunks or chili or sausage of 89 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: varian kinds or duck com feet or steak or shrimp 90 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,679 Speaker 1: or crawfish or crab dip or scrambled eggs. What about 91 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: olives or saute and mushrooms or caramelized onions or hash 92 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: browns or kim cheep or pickled anything, or any kind 93 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: of other cheese you can think of? What about all 94 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: those things? I mean, what if you switched up the 95 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: chips plantain chips Wanton chips, Pieda chips, non chips, potatoes, 96 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: its French fries, onion rings. I've seen a lot of 97 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: spicy tuna sushi inspired nachos with like wanton chips and 98 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: like spicy tuna, like chop spicy tuna on top. We 99 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: might have gotten pok nachos. Yeah, that's definitely a thing 100 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: that happened in Hawaii. I think at m W maybe maybe. Anyway, Um, 101 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward personally to finding some like spicy Indian 102 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: non nachos in person in the future. I've seen some 103 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: pictures of like Tica massala nachos and I want them. Yeah, 104 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: um and Okay, Like I probably could have just made 105 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: up all of his toppings like with my brain, um, 106 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: and they would likely all be true. But every single 107 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: one of the ingredients that I just lifted off shows 108 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: up in a Delish dot com slide show about the 109 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: best nachos from every state. So these are real examples 110 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: of nachos toppings that are really out there for sure. Yes, yes, 111 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: I have seen that slide show, not even for this episode. 112 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: I was looking for a recipe for nachos and I 113 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: did find it, so thank you Delis dot com. Well, 114 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: there you go. Also dessert nachos, dessert nachos, moores nachos, 115 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: waffle cone ice cream, Sunday nachos. I've said too much. Basically, 116 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: if you want to make it a nacho, ok. Yeah. 117 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: In the parlance of our times, uh, nachos has has 118 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: come to mean stuff that you put on top of 119 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: crunchy stuff. Yes, yes, but not like in a salad way. Yeah. Yeah, 120 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: more specific than that, like a junk food or a 121 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: snack food. M well, speaking of patrician you know, fried 122 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: chips aren't really great for you. And and I I 123 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: hate to remind you, but the serving size of any 124 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: given cheese is an ounce, a single ounce. Oh lord, 125 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: so yeah not. Nachos are intended to be kind of 126 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: like a goofy indulgence, um, enjoying as a treat, you know, 127 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: have a nice time. Yeah, and they're generally shared all 128 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: the time. Not all the time, oh no, generally yeah. Yeah, 129 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, anything anything in moderation, including moderation. As Julia 130 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: Child has said, exactly, we do have some interesting numbers. 131 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: We do nacho numbers. Yes. According to one survey, the 132 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: Super Bowl is the second largest day for eating in 133 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: the United States. Period. Yes, behind Thanksgiving, Yeah, okay, so 134 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: thanks okay, Thanksgiving, super Bowl. I would guess Christmas, but 135 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. Alright, the average American will eat three 136 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: times there daily allotted Glorie allowance on the day of 137 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Yep, not surprised, just impressed me to 138 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: an estimated eight point to million pounds of tortilla chips 139 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: make up some of that feasting. And it's a good 140 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: guess a lot of those chips are slother than cheese topics. 141 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: Whatever your heart desires. Yeah. Um. As of nachos were 142 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: the third most popular professional stadium concession seller overall, beating 143 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: out hot dogs but falling falling in line after popcorn 144 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: and soda. Yeah, popcorn. And you know, you know. There's 145 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: a Guinness World record for the largest plate of nacho, 146 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: of course, and it went to a university in Kansas 147 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: and twelve. It weighed four thousand, six d eighty nine 148 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: pounds and two thousand, two hundred of those pounds nacho cheese. Yes. 149 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: Servings were a dollar each and the proceeds went to charity. 150 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: H Guinness did not confirm it, but another plate of 151 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: nachos broke that record in sen with a five thousand 152 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: in twin two pound display uh made with chips made 153 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: from cricket flower. Okay, like it was a stunt for 154 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: Earth Day by Chirp Chips, a company that's trying to 155 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: get more Americans to UH turn to insects as the 156 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: excellent and inexpensive and earth friendly protein that they are. Wow. 157 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: That is impressive as well. There there's there's a bunch 158 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: of nacho related websites that like review nachos and discuss nachos. 159 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: What one of them is called nacho nomics, which the 160 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: author defines as the branch of knowledge concerned with the production, consumption, 161 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: and distribution of nachos choomics and a couple of years ago, 162 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: for National Nacho Day, Bustle put together a list of 163 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: quotes about nachos from celebrities, mostly from interviews. Yeah, um 164 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: and okay so. Neil Patrick Harris has said that in 165 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: his twenties he mostly ate burritos and nachos, with the 166 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: occasional burger making an appearance. Once, when presented with a 167 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: complicated math equation, UM, someone asked Robert Pattinson what n 168 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: stood for in the equation yeah, and he replied, nachos. 169 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: I wish. I guess in some equations it could be. 170 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: It could. I don't think that was it probably not. 171 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: Eva Longoria once said, nachos are usually my go to 172 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: if I'm courtside in an NBA game, I always always 173 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,599 Speaker 1: get my picture taken with my mouth wide open and 174 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: a tortilla chip sticking out of it. And Conan O'Brien said, 175 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: we've all invested emotionally in nachos. That is a truer 176 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: statement I have not heard, right. Oh and apparently no less. 177 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: The John Updike once said, life is a nacho. It 178 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: can be yummy, crunchy, or squishy, yucky. It just depends 179 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 1: on how long it takes for you to start eating 180 00:11:54,840 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: it beautiful. It really makes you think. It does about nachos. 181 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: It does. I'm generally thinking about nachos, and we do 182 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: have some history of of nachos. We do. But first 183 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: we've got a quick break for a word from our sponsor, 184 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: and we're back. Thank you sponsored, Yes, thank you. Nachos 185 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: are actually surprisingly newish, according to the work of Adriana 186 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: p Or from the Oxford English Dictionary, and she did 187 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: this whole piece on getting to the bottom of nacho's 188 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: history and it was a delight. It was super upbeat, 189 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: like a food mystery where everything was wonderful. It all 190 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: worked out what I know. I highly recommend searching it out. 191 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: It was really adorable, really fun read. According to her research, 192 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: prior to the nineteen forties, the word nacho had two 193 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: recorded meanings, a text mex slang which was a combination 194 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: of naturally of course nacho. The second meaning was key 195 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: into ours discovery of Nacho's origin story, and we'll get 196 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: into it in a second. I want to give away 197 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: the surprise. She traced nachos to three to a small 198 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: Mexican town called padres Negress. This town was close to 199 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: a US military base and Fort Duncan, Texas. The story 200 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: goes at about a dozen American military wives went shopping 201 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: an Eagle pass. Their husbands were stationed at the base. 202 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: When they decided to stop for dinner, everything was closed, 203 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: so the chef or depending on the version, major d 204 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: at the Victory Club and padres Negrass Ignacio Anaya decided 205 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: to do them a solid. He went back into the 206 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: kitchen to see what was leftover, what he still had, 207 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: coming up with tortilla shredded cheddar cheese, and jalapeno slices. 208 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: So he fried up slices of tortilla, topped them with 209 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: the cheese and halapino, and then baked them. Then he 210 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: served them up, calling them not shows a specialists. His 211 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: nickname was Nacho, and that's actually how Or got to 212 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: the bottom of this nacho history mystery. She had been 213 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: enquiring about the origin of nachos at the Hispanic division 214 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: of the Library of Congress, but to no avail. However, 215 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: a Hispanic female staff member who overheard her conversation tracked 216 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: her down and told her that where she was from, 217 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: Nacho was a common shortening of ignacio, the second meaning 218 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: from the Oxford English Dictionariy. It just like opened all 219 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: these pathways for her, she called it, like the big 220 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: moment in the case. Yes, other versions of this story 221 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: do swap out the women for exhausted soldiers who were 222 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: looking for some comfort food to remind them of home. 223 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: But yes, this is this is the accepted story right 224 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: and soon after, Ignacio's original recipe appeared in a nineteen 225 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: four Eagle Past Church cookbook. It had been previously mentioned 226 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: in A Taste of Texas in Mine with quote Pedro 227 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: left Sometime later he returned carrying a large dish of 228 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: Nacho's especialists. These, Nacho said, Pedro will help El Capitan. 229 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: He will soon forget his troubles for nachos. Make one 230 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: romantic u um. Yeah, and gosh, as we've said, the 231 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: dude's name was not Pedro, it was Ignatio. But you know. 232 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: The perfect Nacho's recipe in that book called for one 233 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: package Mexican tortillas, a small hunk of American cheese, a 234 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: bottle or can of pickled peppers, preferably halpinos. Cut tortillas 235 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: into triangle pieces, place in a pan, and put into 236 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: medium hot oven to toast. Removed from the oven when 237 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: barely crisp, but a small piece of cheese on each 238 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: piece of tortilla. Replace in the oven until the cheese 239 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: is melted. Removed from the oven, and garnish each piece 240 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: with a small slice of pickled pepper, and serve. That 241 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: reminds me there are some places that do that kind 242 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: of very like one in Yeah, yeah, I guess anyway 243 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: you want to your nachos absolutely less messy for sure, definitely. 244 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: A year before that, an ad placed by the Latin 245 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: Quarter Mexican restaurant in San Antonio. Light red nachos parentheses 246 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: Mexican orders five. Since here's a real dainty, golden fried 247 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: tortillas strips deliciously spiced, topped with mellow melted cheese and 248 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: garnished with chili jalapeno bits. Here's a real dainty, A 249 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: real dainty. Meanwhile, UM mass produced fried corn tortilla chips UM, 250 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: again called tostadas in Mexico, had men in development since 251 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: the early nineteen hundreds, aligning with the first mass produced 252 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: corn massa UM. The first American to make him might 253 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: have been San Antonio's Jose Martinez and his mass Massa company, 254 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: then called Tomalina Milling Company UM. They began frying up 255 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: corn chips from leftover dough for sale as early as 256 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: the nineteen teens, and similar products could also be found 257 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: in southern California around that same time. Tortilla ships really 258 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: caught on, though, UM, when another company made a similar 259 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: move to prevent product loss UM in the late nineteen forties, 260 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Rebecca Webb Coranza of the l'sar Pope Tortilla 261 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: Factory fried up some misshape and tortillas and started selling them. 262 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: They became popular enough that the factory switched its focus 263 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: to just chips. Wow. So yes, tortilla chips were on 264 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: the scene. They were on the scene. Meanwhile, back to nachos. Meanwhile, 265 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: in Carmen Rocha, a recent transplant to Los Angeles from 266 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: San Diego, was hired as a server at Elcholo, Mexican restaurant. 267 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: Since San Diego was only a couple of hours drive 268 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: away from Padres Negress, she was quite familiar with nachos, 269 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: and she suggested them for the menu at Elcholo. A 270 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: few decades later, thanks in part to roaches, nachos, El 271 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: Tolo was an l A hot spot. Like Jack Nicholson 272 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: was a regular there, and he told the l a 273 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: times after her death in two thousand eight, Carmen was 274 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: one herful to me and to everybody. It's a community loss. Yeah. 275 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: And while nacho's were definitely a popular item, it wasn't 276 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: until a man named Frank Liberto, sometimes called the father 277 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: of Nachos, got the idea to sell them at Arlington 278 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: Stadium in nineteen seventy six, then home to the Texas Rangers, 279 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: that they really soared in popularity. Liberto's family was Sicilian 280 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: and Frank inherited the family business from his father, Rico Loberto, 281 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: their business of selling snacks at events and movie theaters. 282 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: According to the Rico's product website, they were the first 283 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: American owned concession based business and they got their start 284 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: selling peanuts at the circus. Yeah. He did have to 285 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: tweak the nacho recipe a bit though, because real cheese 286 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: caused a bit of a problem when it came to 287 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: shelf life and also required access to an oven or 288 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: boiler to melt. So instead he went with a sort 289 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: of fast foodified version of cheese that did not need 290 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: to be refrigerated. He never wanted his customers to wait 291 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: longer than one minute. That was one thing for him, Okay. 292 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: In the words of John Chetwynd, author of How the 293 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: Hot Dog Found It spun quote, the Bartza devised a 294 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: fast food form of an as masterpiece that was part 295 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,479 Speaker 1: cheese and part secret ingredients. The new sauce didn't need 296 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: to be heated, and when it came to shelf life, 297 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: it could likely survive a nuclear blast. And by the way, 298 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: the FDA does not classify this as cheese. Nope, nope. 299 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: To be called cheese a product has to be at 300 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: least fifty one cheese. Um, this is not uh Rico's 301 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: is a is a sauce with cheddar cheese five on 302 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: the ingredients list after cheese, whey water, modified cornstarch, and 303 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: vegetable oil, meaning it contains more of those things than 304 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: it does the cheddar cheese right right, right right. Despite that, 305 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: people loved it. It It was an instant home run, out 306 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: selling every other stadium food at Arlington Stadium. In nineteen 307 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: to years later, nachos made the jump over to nearby 308 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Stadium. This was when the Dallas Cowboys was 309 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: America's team and they frequently played host to Monday Night football. 310 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: The BeRTOS Son says that during a lull in the game, 311 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: one of the announcers praised the deliciousness of this new 312 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: snack called nachos. Okay, yeah, So according to the Rico's website, Um, 313 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: this this announcer, Howard Cosell, who I'm not very familiar 314 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: with bball, especially from the nineteen seventies, but was like 315 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: a big deal kind of announcer. Dude. Um just loved 316 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: this snack and loved that the name kind of sounded funny, 317 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: And so that night when him and his broadcast team 318 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: we're going through the game analysis, they just started using 319 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: the word nacho all over the place. Uh like like 320 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: apparently like whenever there was like something good that happened, 321 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: they would be like, that was natcho, man, or like 322 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: what a nacho run that was, or like hey, that's 323 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: nachos all the way. Um, so I guess it was 324 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: just a thing and I love that. Yeah, And of 325 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: course people were watching. He kept bringing them up, and 326 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: so it was a big thing in Nacho's timeline. This event. 327 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: It was large, It was large. The rate was one 328 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: sale of nachos for every two and a half patrons 329 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: that first year and nineteen seventy six that amount say 330 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand dollars, and for a reference, popcorn sold 331 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: about eighty five thou dollars in that same Yeah, oh 332 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: my gosh. These early stadium nachos typically were topped with alpinos, 333 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: and perhaps the sauce contained lapino juice as well, which 334 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: helped boost beverage sales too, because if it was something 335 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,959 Speaker 1: kind of spicy, going to go in for the drink, 336 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: both in stadiums and theaters. And yeah, yeah, two things. Um, 337 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: First of all, I'm not sure exactly when it hit 338 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: the mark it, but um, but one of Rico's products 339 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: is a condensed cheese sauce that vendors can mix with 340 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: with either water or salsa or pepper juice for serving, 341 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: and frequently it is halpenia pepper juice. Yeah. Um. And 342 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: also yes, movie theaters, because soon after their debut in stadiums, 343 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: animators for Disney put together shorts advertising Rico's nachos for 344 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: purchase at theater concession stands. Um. These shorts would run 345 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: like during intermission, which, gosh, is a is a thing 346 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: that I miss? I do too. What a movie did 347 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: I go to recently? I had intermission? I thought, this 348 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: is the best thing. I think. The only one I've 349 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: ever been to, except for maybe when I was a tiny, 350 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: tiny child, was when that recent Quentin Tarantino Hateful It 351 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: came out. Yeah. I think mine was two thousand one 352 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 1: space out of two years ago. I think it had 353 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: an intermission. Gosh, I love an intermission anyway, Yeah yeah, yeah. 354 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: So so so this is this animated short it had. It 355 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: had these animated characters, Rico, Nacho and pepe Um. Rico 356 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: is the is the mask out for Ricos, and he's 357 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: got this like dollop of cheese for a head. Uh, 358 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: Nacho's head is a chip and Peppe's head is a 359 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: is a helpeneous slice. And yeah, history was made. Rico's 360 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: website calls it unforgettable. I can see that. I'm already 361 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: imagining having nightmares about this. That's just how my mind works, though. 362 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: You know, when I think of these types of nachos, 363 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: you know, I think of um. I loved skating and 364 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: rollerblading as a like roller at rink, skating rinks. That's 365 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: my primary association, which with this particular type of nachos. 366 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I exclusively eight now and later's at 367 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: at roller rinks. Later. What is that? It's a type 368 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: of candy. It's um, it's sort of like a it's 369 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: sort of like a more It's like a less chewy starburst. Oh, 370 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: less chewy star gets stuck in your teeth. And that 371 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: was why it's now and later. I guess, m hmm. 372 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: Future sleothing on that one, but for now. Anaga died 373 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy five, but his son, Ignacio Anaya Jr. 374 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: Took up the nacho mantel. He briefly tried securing ownership 375 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: of nachos for his father, but lawyers informed him it 376 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: was too late. Nacho was in the public main. Yeah, 377 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: a bronze plaque was put up in pa Dress and 378 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: Negress in his memory. Yes. In three, a twenty nine 379 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: year old man was arrested for trying to buy trade 380 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: secrets into Rico's pumpable nacho cheese sauce recipe. M M indeed, Yeah, 381 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: that that recipe, that recipe is some serious stuff because 382 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: I mean, as as anyone who has tried to make 383 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: nachos at home is aware, if you just grate some 384 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: cheese onto some chips, like any old cheese and like 385 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: put them under the broiler and the microwave, like, your 386 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: results are going to be varied because probably what's going 387 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: to happen is that as the cheese heats up, the 388 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: red rather than like like melting into like a beautiful gooey, 389 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: uh gooey sauce, like the oil is going to separate 390 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: out from the milk solids, leaving you with like this 391 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: weird like kind of tough, stringy stuff and then this 392 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: puddle of oil bad times. Don't want it? Um, you 393 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: can you can solve this by the way, with science, 394 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: Oh yes, so um. So by adding an emulsifier, for example, 395 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: and recommended by no less than the American Chemistry Society. Um, 396 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: you can add an emulsifier like sodium citrate um, which 397 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: is a specialty good. It's sometimes also um added into 398 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: sodas in order to make them kind of tart. I 399 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: think that we talked about it in our in our 400 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: Soda Fountain episode. UM. But yeah, yeah, it's it's a 401 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: type of assault that you use a very tiny amount 402 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: of and basically it just gets in there and makes 403 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: the milk solids and the milk fats plain ice. UM. 404 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: So if you melt them together with some cheese, maybe 405 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: some other ingredients check the like beer or something like that. 406 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: Check the internet for recipes they abound, um, then it 407 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: will help stabilize the whole mass there, therefore preventing that 408 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: gloopity separation thing from happening. Cool. You can also just 409 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: buy like American cheese, which is already done that emulsified 410 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: at the factory level. Yeah. Because I remember the first 411 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: time I made nacha as it was a disaster because 412 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: I didn't really think about it. It seems so simple, exactly. 413 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get my favorite types of cheese and 414 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: I'll melt it on top. Nope, no, no, no, no, 415 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: that was sad. Have you ever had to pick up 416 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: just a whole mass of soggy chips that have melted 417 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: together and throw it away? Oh yeah, it's sad. Oh 418 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: yeah I have. It's a really depressing experience. It's like 419 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: the smallest and yet still upsetting version of like I 420 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: don't know, like a like a horror movie like Slither 421 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: or something like that, where just all the bodies formed 422 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: together and you're like, you just have to throw this 423 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: whole mess out now, yeah, and you're you feel around 424 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: for maybe there's one chip that's salvageable, and it's not. 425 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: It's not because the steam from the resulting mess has 426 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: just made everything zoggy. You don't want it, No, no, 427 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: we want your nacho adventures to be successful and delicious. Yeah, yeah, totally. 428 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: Look up. There are any number of sodium citrate related 429 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: recipes on the internet. It's not too late, It isn't 430 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: depending on when you listen to this. It's never too 431 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: late to make a good plate of nacho. That's true. 432 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: That's true. Even if you've had one disaster, you can recover. 433 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: You can, and it's worth it. It is, yes, and 434 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: that's about what we have to say on nachos. It is. 435 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: We do have a little bit more for you, but 436 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: first we've got one more quick break for a word 437 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you, sponsored, Yes, 438 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: thank you, and we're back with listener listener mail. I 439 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: want to read some listener mail. Not many match a man, 440 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: notcha man. I thought it was clear what was gonna happen. 441 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: That's you know, I've never I've never mad about a surprise. 442 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: That's good. That's very good in this line of work. 443 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: The listener male jingle, okay, just seen wrote I just 444 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: listened to your episode on flax lenin and want to 445 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: add a little fun fact. I'm not sure how popular 446 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: the fairy tale Rumpel still Skin, published by the brothers 447 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: Grim is outside of Germany, so let me summarize just 448 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: in case it's fairly popular. For the record, but we 449 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: are always so in to some summarizations of fairy tales 450 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: or whatever virgin of fairy tales you want to send us. 451 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: We're a big fairy tale people. Yes, A miller boasted 452 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: the king about his daughter and says that she can 453 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: spend straw into gold. In his greed, the king takes 454 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: the girl, locks her up in a room filled the 455 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: straw for two nights in a row, and tells her 456 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: to spin it into gold overnight or he will kill her. 457 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: Of course, she can't do it and starts crying. When 458 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: a little imp appears, it offers to spin the straw 459 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: into gold in exchange for her necklace and ring, respectively. 460 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: On the third night, the king offers to marry the 461 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: girl if she succeeds, or she will die. The imp appears, 462 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: but since the girl has nothing left to pay him with, 463 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: he demands her firstborn child. Gold is spun, the wedding happens, 464 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: a child is born. The imp returns, claiming his payment, 465 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: but the queen strikes a deal if in three nights 466 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: she can guess his name, he will leave her alone. 467 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: During the first two nights she is unsuccessful. Then late 468 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: on the third day, a servant finds a little cottage 469 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: with a fire burning in front of it, around which 470 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: a little man is dancing and singing, Tonight, tonight, my 471 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: plans I make tomorrow tomorrow the baby I take. The 472 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: queen will never win the game for rumpel steal Skin 473 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: is my name. On the final night, the Queen reveals 474 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: the name, and rumpel steal Skin, enraged, tears himself into 475 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: We have all been there, man, she goes. Now you're 476 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: probably wondering what this has to do with flax. Well, 477 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: Lennon is a very durable material. If taken care of properly, 478 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: it even gets more beautiful with age. After years and 479 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: years of washing and wearing, the fibers will get super 480 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: smooth and sheen will appear, making the naturally sort of 481 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: straw colored fabric look like you guessed it gold. This 482 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: phenomenon maybe what the whole folks tale is based on. 483 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: I've never heard that about me either, and I completely 484 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: forgot about that whole aspect of it, of turning your 485 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: hair into gold. Yeah. Yeah, yes, it was a very 486 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: It was a nice reminder. Thanks for sending Yeah absolutely. 487 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: Um Adam wrote, greetings, new fan of the show. I'm 488 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: a cooking coach and personal cook, and one of my 489 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: specialties is using and combining things from the cupboards. When 490 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: I heard you say no snacks on hand, I thought, 491 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: wait what? And then you've recently had a sponsor for 492 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: one of the very things that I'll bet will help 493 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: you out the next time you have peckish guests, take 494 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: some of your beloved peanut butter. Mix with a sweetener 495 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: like honey, powdered sugar, chocolate chips, and a thickener like 496 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: a rolled oats, crushed cereal, coconut flour, or flax seed meal. 497 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: Then add textures and flavors like your flax seeds, dried fruits, 498 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: other nuts, shreaded coconut, et cetera. Chop, crush and toast 499 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: the flax seeds to make them more digestible. Bonus points 500 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: for combining multiple savor episodes. If you use Graham cracker 501 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: crumbs in your peanut butter bites, mix, roll into bite 502 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: sized bits. Chill if you can wait and serve to 503 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: doubting but soon to be celebratory guests. Also, sixty seconds 504 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: and a food processor can turn a can of beans 505 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: into a hummicstip to with crackers, cheese, veggies, bread, etcetera. 506 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:09,959 Speaker 1: Thank you for helping me maintain my friends. I actually 507 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: have them coming over this weekend, so this is much appreciated. 508 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely well always, I mean, oh my gosh, anything with 509 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: peanut butter through a variety of sponsorships and trips. I 510 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: think I will never have to buy peanut butter again, 511 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: and that's a wonderful thing. I'm very excited about it. 512 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: But I'm very happy to get more peanuts but recipes. 513 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: I gave away so many I shouldn't really eat peanuts. 514 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: And I gave away so many jars of peanut butter 515 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: and still donated like like eight jars to my local 516 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: theater and that has people anyway. Yeah, so many jars 517 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: of peanut butter. So many, And if any any listeners 518 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: want to send in some recipes, always welcome, not just 519 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: for peanut butter, always welcome. Thanks to both of them 520 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: for writing in. If you would like to write to us, 521 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: you can. Our email is hello at savor pod dot com. 522 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: We're also on social media. You can find us on Facebook, Twitter, 523 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: and Instagram, where our handle is at savor pod and 524 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: we do hope to hear from you. Savor is production 525 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio and Stuff Media. For more podcasts 526 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: my Heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, 527 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Thanks as 528 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: always to our super producers Dylan Fagan and Andrew Howard. 529 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: Thanks to you for listening, and I hope that lots 530 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: more good things are coming your way.