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Speaker 2: Is that? Woo whoo?

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Speaker 1: And no Dan and tie.

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Speaker 3: It is Rivalry Week, Baby robody week is here, Dan Rubinstein.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even going to give it a nickname like

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Speaker 1: I do for most Saturdays, because there's no topping Rivalry Week.

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Speaker 1: It's basic, it's simple, it's to the point, and it's

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Speaker 1: lethal in its messaging. So come on, ty it's Rivalry Week.

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Speaker 1: I am so I hilde Brand.

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Speaker 2: He is Dan Rubinstein, not in his normal abode. We

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Speaker 1: By the way, I'm in some southern California. Excuse me.

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Speaker 1: I'm in the San Fernando Valley, just north of la

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Speaker 1: in my middle brother's childhood bedroom, speaking into a work

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Speaker 1: iPad that ungs to my wife, don't tell anybody, and

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Speaker 1: I promise nothing from a creative or informational standpoint, Well,

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Speaker 1: welcome in one at all.

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Speaker 2: I am tyee is Dan. This is part one of

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Speaker 2: what will be a two part Rivalry week extravaganza. We

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Speaker 2: are going to talk through a couple of the matchups

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Speaker 2: today the three Biggies, at least from our vantage point.

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Speaker 2: On Friday, of course, there are many exciting games on Friday.

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Speaker 2: We'll give you a bit of a rundown as to

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Speaker 2: what is ahead. We've got, as I said, three big previews.

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Speaker 2: We're also going to go through some of the latest

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Speaker 2: coaching carousel news. We're going to give you the results

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Speaker 2: of that football or Top twelve polls so that you

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Speaker 2: can be ready in advance for whatever the new set

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Speaker 2: of polling looks like. When the College Football Playoff releases

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Speaker 2: theirs on Tuesday evening. It is a pleasure to be

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Speaker 2: back with you, Dan, even though you are on the

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Speaker 2: other side of the good old USA is returning to

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Speaker 2: our roots. We do it a couple times a year

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Speaker 2: where you're out there. I am still over here, and

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Speaker 2: it's easy to forget. This is how we started this

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Speaker 1: I regret everything, ty When I see the number that

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Speaker 1: gets me eleven megabits per second upload, I should be

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Speaker 1: back home, Tye. And I have a good amount of

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Speaker 1: probably not as much anxiety as a lot of these

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Speaker 1: Why don't we dive in? Dan, the coaching So.

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Speaker 2: The roar is because we've got more coaching news. It

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Speaker 2: is the reason for the season. The latest one is

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Speaker 2: that Justin Wilcox has officially been relieved of command at Cal.

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Speaker 2: You can add another one to the list. They fired

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Speaker 2: him with one game remaining in his ninth season, if

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Speaker 2: you can believe that out at Cal. Some of the

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Speaker 2: early names that have popped up alongside this opening Tosh Lupoi,

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Speaker 2: currently the defensive coordinator at Oregon, Ryan Grubb, currently the

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Speaker 2: now is the head coached out at San Diego State.

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Speaker 2: Jason Eck, I know you're a big ech head, currently

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Speaker 2: this is relatively fresh news. Dan. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: And now we've seen them in the portal have some success.

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Speaker 2: So I get the logic behind it. You know, they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's calculus on a number of different levels here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, this is still the ACC. But the

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Speaker 2: Well in the coaching talent has I think gotten better

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Speaker 2: And then to round out your top twelve, we had Oklahoma,

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Speaker 2: So very small differences. There wasn't a whole lot of

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Speaker 2: other teams on this board, I think they're better than

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Speaker 2: Texas Tech. I think they could beat Ole miss. I

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Speaker 2: definitely think they would beat Oklahoma. I'm not so sure

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Speaker 2: about Alabama, but I feel like Alabama is one dimensional

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Speaker 2: enough on offense that Notre Dame would be able to

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Speaker 2: take them. And I feel really good about their chances

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Speaker 2: if push came to shove against the school like BYU

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Speaker 2: or against Miami if they would play again. I know

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Speaker 2: Miami won the first game, but this is a different

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame team now, as I've said time and again,

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Speaker 2: so I understand people are gonna hear this and they're

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Speaker 2: gonna say, well, of course you're putting Notre Dame that high.

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Speaker 2: You're a Notre Dame fan. That is fair criticism. Okay, huh.

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Speaker 2: But if I am going one by one by one

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Speaker 2: by one who I think can beat whom, I feel

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Speaker 2: like I would put Notre Dame right there with Oregon

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Speaker 2: five and six.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think the case for Notre Dame and I

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Speaker 1: don't care if Notre Dame is in this playoff or not.

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Speaker 1: I know you, you're a longtime fan. I don't think

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Speaker 1: the case for Notre Dame is all that complicated. I

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Speaker 1: know teams from you know, the SEC or ACC. You

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Speaker 1: need that boogeyman in the Big ten or out West

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Speaker 1: or you know, somebody to say, here is our enemy.

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Speaker 1: We need an enemy. We need to you know, zero

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Speaker 1: in on somebody and get them in the crosshairs and

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Speaker 1: prove why they don't belong in this conversation whatsoever. I

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Speaker 1: get it with Notre Dame. Why you'd be upset because

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Speaker 1: of the games they lost early on Those were the

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Speaker 1: games against the two best teams on their schedule. Sure,

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Speaker 1: I think we agree, Yeah, right, so they have absolutely

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Speaker 1: they have the opportunity. They lost by a combine four points.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: And I'm willing to say we should count head to

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Speaker 1: head Notre Dame Miami. We should. But it was in August.

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Speaker 1: It can't be like it happened last week. Like, you

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Speaker 1: have to weigh these things differently, as seasons change and

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Speaker 1: schemes change and the roster usage changes. You have to

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Speaker 1: do that in both good and bad ways. And so

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Speaker 1: I just don't think a win in late August means

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Speaker 1: the exact same as a win in early November. Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame scheduled. I think pretty well what they could control,

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Speaker 1: which is basically all of this other than you know,

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Speaker 1: get a rotation of ACC teams. It's ten Power Conference

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Speaker 1: quote unquote Power Conference teams, and then the two other teams,

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Speaker 1: one of which was in the playoff last year and

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Speaker 1: the other one is still in contention for the American

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Speaker 1: If I have all that correct, They did not book

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Speaker 1: a neutral site game. They did not book an FCS opponent.

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Speaker 1: So the way that they've handled business, I believe their

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Speaker 1: strength of record is in the top ten. So it's

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Speaker 1: how you play against who you play. They have not

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Speaker 1: won a single game by single digits. I just think

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Speaker 1: you got to you gotta look at the context of

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Speaker 1: this and that Notre Dame is playing on an extremely

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Speaker 1: high level. They just throttled a pit team who in

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Speaker 1: turn throttled on offense, a team that we had penciled

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Speaker 1: in for playing for the ACC. I don't think transitive

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Speaker 1: stuff is worth a ton, but stuff that's happened recently,

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Speaker 1: I think it's worth a conversation. So the case for

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame is a top ten, top eight, top nine,

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Speaker 1: having them ahead of Alabama, it's okay with me. Like

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Speaker 1: these are two Like if you want to be upset

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Speaker 1: about it, I would look inward first at what Miami

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Speaker 1: could control it, what Alabama could control. Right, Alabama needed

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Speaker 1: a miracle to beat South Carolina. Notre Dame hasn't needed

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Speaker 1: any miracles against average or below average teams, have they?

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Speaker 1: Maybe I missed one, No, but no, I just I

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Speaker 1: think you got to look at the full the full plate,

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Speaker 1: not just like a matchup, and I don't think the

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Speaker 1: case for Notre Dame is all that difficult.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and for what it's worth, I hate framing this

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Speaker 2: as a Notre Dame versus Miami conversation. I know it's

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Speaker 2: going to go there. Yeah, of course, But there are

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Speaker 2: a bunch of other teams now, at least per the

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Speaker 2: latest run of the College Football Playoff rankings, that are

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Speaker 2: also standing in the way of Miami. I don't necessarily

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Speaker 2: agree with that, but I understand where we're at. So

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Speaker 2: if you're a Miami fan right now, what you're rooting

511
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Speaker 2: for is a big one over pit, a rank pit,

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Speaker 2: which could give you a little bit of a boost.

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Speaker 2: I think you're hoping that a school like BYU obviously

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Speaker 2: would help if they lost this week. But even if

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Speaker 2: they didn't lose this week and they ended up losing

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Speaker 2: a week from now against Texas Tech, should they play

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Speaker 2: a rematch in the Big twelve championship game, you'd obviously

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Speaker 2: like to get BYU out of there. If you're Miami,

519
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Speaker 2: clearly you got to beat a rank pit and hope

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Speaker 2: you get a little bit of a boost there to

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Speaker 2: maybe jump the likes of Utah, who's also in front

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Speaker 2: of you. I do think there is possibility here for

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Speaker 2: Miami to still work their way back into this thing. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Auburn beating Alabama in rivalry be a pretty big deal.

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Speaker 2: But Oklahoma loses to LSU, that'd be a pretty big deal.

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Speaker 2: So there are options here. If you're a Miami fan.

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Speaker 2: The problem is something that you have said time and again.

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Speaker 2: It's a parlay. It's a parlay. You need a couple

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Speaker 2: things to happen, not just one. So they still have

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Speaker 2: a much better chance as an at large than they

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Speaker 2: do as a conference champion. They could definitely find their

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Speaker 2: way into this thing, and we've seen crazy results on

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Speaker 2: rivalry week, so it would not at all surprise me

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Speaker 2: if we saw that again. But they need a parlay.

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Speaker 2: They need to beat Pitt. They need a few teams

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Speaker 2: in front of them to lose either this week or

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Speaker 2: next and hope that the strength of a win over

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Speaker 2: the Pitt Panthers can carry them into the field. Right now,

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Speaker 2: the way that this is setting up, you got to

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Speaker 2: be inside the top ten. You got to be inside

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Speaker 2: the top ten because two of the twelve are going

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Speaker 2: to come from outside the top twelve. The winner of

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Speaker 2: the ACC whoever wins and gets the represent that one

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Speaker 2: spot is the representative as the G six. So that's

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Speaker 2: the lay of the land for the Miami Hurricanes. They're

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Speaker 2: very much on the outside looking in. Stuff gets weird

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Speaker 2: here in rivalry week and conference championship week, then maybe

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Speaker 2: it's a different conversation. But in terms of what they

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Speaker 2: can control, they've got a big one on Saturday against

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Speaker 2: pitt They got to start by winning that one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The interesting thing too is I read our friend

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Speaker 1: Bill Connolly at ESPN talking about this that you know

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Speaker 1: a lot of people love chaos. The chaos might not

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Speaker 1: come from like a ton of upsets rivalry week. Now,

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Speaker 1: a ton of upsets actually make clarify things in a

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Speaker 1: much easier way for the committee. It's probably a mix

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Speaker 1: of like a couple upsets and then everybody else taking

558
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Speaker 1: care of business is what throws this into like a

559
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Speaker 1: true mess because like we haven't even mentioned like Michigan

560
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Speaker 1: has an opportunity to win the Big ten and swipe

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Speaker 1: a playoff spot. Like there are a number of different

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Speaker 1: scenarios in which this thing gets real weird, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of it just comes from chalk and that's what

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Speaker 1: makes this weekend super interesting. Well, and I'll talk through

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Speaker 1: some of that.

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Speaker 2: I have some of that jotted down here as we

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Speaker 2: get into previews, because more to the point, chaos is fun.

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Speaker 2: But I do think there is some more subtle chaos

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Speaker 2: that could go down in Rivalry week that could really

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Speaker 2: change the way that we're looking at the postseason and

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Speaker 2: a lot of what's to come here over the next

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Speaker 2: six weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, can't wait right in Sali verbot gmail

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Speaker 1: dot com.

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Speaker 2: Let us know your thoughts on the ballots, let us

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Speaker 2: know your thoughts on my ballot, on Dan's comments, We

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Speaker 2: welcome it all, even if you don't agree. Just kind

578
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Speaker 2: of be nice, don't be a dick. Yeah, and we'll

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Speaker 2: accept it proudly. Leave a comment wherever you are out there,

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Speaker 2: be it on YouTube or Spotify or any of the

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Speaker 2: apps that allow you to do so.

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Speaker 1: We'd love to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: We do read all of that stuff, even if we

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Speaker 2: don't respond, because we just like to keep our finger

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Speaker 2: on the pulse, so we'd encourage you to keep on

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Speaker 2: doing that. The only other bit of housekeeping here before

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Speaker 2: we jump into three big previews.

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Speaker 1: Yes, run the board.

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Speaker 2: It is not the last week of Run the Board

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Speaker 2: our pick them game, but it is arguably the biggest week.

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Speaker 2: Rivalry week is always kind of the biggest week for

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Speaker 2: Run the Board. So we are going to do something

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Speaker 2: that we have never done before in terms of prizing. Okay,

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Speaker 2: this game is only available to people who sign up

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Speaker 2: and pledge on Patreon as either a certified or a

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Speaker 2: premium verballer. So we're gonna do the normal thing that

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Speaker 2: we've been doing. Once a month we give away a

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Speaker 2: big five hundred dollars gift card to something. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: do that again, big gift in its own right, Right,

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Speaker 2: it's a big gift.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 2: In addition, though, Dan, we are going to give away

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Speaker 2: something that we have never given away before.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, this pony. Tell me it's a pony tie.

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Speaker 2: I would love to give away a pony. I don't

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Speaker 2: know what the shipping would cost, right. This is something

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Speaker 2: within the verballer hood that I would say is a

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Speaker 2: little bit more tangible and perhaps a little bit more valuable. Also,

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Speaker 2: it was your idea, would you care to explain?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're offering a golden ticket you get to tour

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Speaker 1: Ties House. It's sort of you treat it like a

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Speaker 1: B and B. Now we're offering a golden ticket, a

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Speaker 1: soliverbal golden ticket to if you are able to win

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Speaker 1: this week of Run the BA. You get the what

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Speaker 1: it's five hundred dollars visa card, yep, five hundred bucks

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Speaker 1: ahead of the holidays. You can do a lot with that.

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Speaker 1: And then you also get to just skip the line

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Speaker 1: and get a seat, obtain a seat on the Solid

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Speaker 1: Verbal Board and help to make decisions for the solid

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Speaker 1: verbal verballerhood and solid verbal universe at large. And this

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Speaker 1: is zoom calls. This is you know you have some

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Speaker 1: thoughts about Ty, you can tell him to his digital face.

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Speaker 1: You get to wheeld power in a way that you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't otherwise unless you were able to finish in the

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Speaker 1: top five of Run the Board in the season long competition.

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Speaker 1: A golden ticket to appear on the Solid Verbal Board.

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Speaker 1: I believe we send plaques. I believe Ty will write

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Speaker 1: you letters of recommendation for a new job. We have

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Speaker 1: anything you need.

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Speaker 2: We had somebody once put it on as that's God's

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Speaker 2: honest truth.

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Speaker 1: So if somebody is not poking around to see what

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Speaker 1: an appearance on the Soliverable Board actually consists of you

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Speaker 1: can do that in earnest and by the word stand.

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Speaker 2: I haven't even broched this subject with you yet, but

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Speaker 2: we're all friends here.

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Speaker 1: Let's just bring it up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, people on the existing board, we've been promising this

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Speaker 2: for a while. There will be an email in your

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Speaker 2: inbox before the end of this week scheduling our season

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Speaker 2: end board meeting in Aruba.

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Speaker 1: Right, is that what you said?

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Speaker 2: You can go to Aruba if you want. I don't

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Speaker 2: got the budget for Ruba right now, and we don't

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Speaker 2: have the budget for Aruba for the entire board. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: wherever you are, current board can be part of that conversation.

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Speaker 2: I would be willing to entertain making the Golden Ticket

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Speaker 2: part of that conversation as well. Oh, just to establish

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Speaker 2: a little bit of continuity when the board turns over

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Speaker 2: at the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. Oh that's interesting. Are there any sort

652
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Speaker 1: of corrupt ideas that you might have that like you

653
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Speaker 1: could sort of do like a an no show job

654
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Speaker 1: offer or sort of a no bid contract situation for

655
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Speaker 1: a board member. I don't know what that entails exactly, No,

656
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Speaker 1: but either I'm willing to look the other way if

657
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Speaker 1: you come up with any ideas for board corruption.

658
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Speaker 2: All right, well, if we want to go full sec

659
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Speaker 2: with this thing, we can do it. Yeah, of course

660
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: you and I could talk about it, maybe offline, but

661
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 2: this is what the stakes are for. Run the board again.

662
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Speaker 2: If you go to solid verbal dot com, you can

663
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Speaker 2: find a link to our patreon. You can also go

664
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Speaker 2: to for bawlers dot com. You can just go to

665
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Speaker 2: Patreon dot com slash solid Verbal. Whichever you are l

666
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Speaker 2: you prefer, we'll get you over there. Sign up as

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Speaker 2: a certified as a premium for baller. I think they're

668
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: going to activate the game a little bit later on today.

669
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Speaker 2: It's twelve games against the points spread. We're going to

670
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 2: talk through all of these games in some way, shape

671
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: or form, starting with the games on Saturday. So the

672
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: games that we're going to preview today are all on Friday.

673
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 2: We want to give you an extra day, you have

674
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Speaker 2: Black Friday to get those picks in as well, starting

675
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 2: on Saturday, running all throughout the day. That's when the

676
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 2: twelve games are that you're gonna have to pick.

677
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Speaker 3: Yes, correct, Dan Rubinstein speaking of previews, damn time out

678
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 3: of the week, we got three games, maybe we got

679
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 3: three games? Yes, sir, before we do previews on a

680
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 3: week like this, an important disclaimer to the verbulerhood. I

681
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 3: want you to remind the fine folks out there what

682
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 3: we do on Rivalry Week.

683
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: You stretch your shoulder, you stretch your lats, you stretch

684
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: your traps, you do some squats, maybe loosen the wrist

685
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: up a little bit, and you gotta throw those records out.

686
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 4: Hydrow them out the window, get them out of here,

687
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 4: activate those glutes, whatever needs to happen so that you

688
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 4: are launching those records with hef and reckless abandon My

689
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 4: problem with picking games.

690
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 2: On Rivalry Week is always that I'm a bit of

691
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 2: a romantic m you know, and I think a lot

692
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: of the people that listen to this show are probably

693
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: in the same boat. We love college football for the pageantry,

694
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 2: for the chaos sometimes when we get it, and Rivalry

695
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 2: Week is sort of a collection of both things, you know.

696
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 2: It's where they both meet and merge, and it makes

697
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 2: this week as special as it can be. I don't

698
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: know if we're going to see the upsets this week.

699
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 2: I've got a bunch of scenarios jotted down here that

700
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 2: I think could have a real impact on the playoffs

701
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: could have a real impact on just how we view

702
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: teams moving forward, both through bowl season and into the offseason.

703
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: I had a bunch of stuff written down here, not

704
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: just for this part one, but for what we're going

705
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 2: to record and put out tomorrow as well.

706
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Speaker 1: But I'm excited.

707
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 2: I'm going to try not to be too much of

708
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: a romantic but it's just so hard when you've got

709
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: games like these.

710
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 1: It's so hard.

711
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 2: Let's start high noon on ABC. It is Ole Miss

712
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: minus seven on the road against Mississippi State Dan. They

713
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: call this one the Egg Ball. They play for the

714
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: Golden Egg Trophy. Of note here, the main storyline surrounding

715
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: this game is not the game. It is what's going

716
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: to happen after the game. Okay, So, if you have

717
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: not been following the Lane Kiffins saga, which maybe we

718
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: could have talked about in the very beginning, but I

719
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: saved it until now. The athletic director at Ole Miss,

720
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 2: Keith Carter, expects that there will be an announcement about

721
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffen's future with Ole Miss on Saturday, November the

722
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 2: twenty ninth. Hmm, I wonder what that means. My sense

723
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: is that he's gone Otherwise they just would have came

724
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: out and said, hey, he's coming back. They don't need

725
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: all the fanfare for that. But this is Lane Kiffin,

726
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 2: So who the ell knows he is? Currently, as you know,

727
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: the top target for pretty much every opening but namely

728
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: both LSU and Florida. Will he won't he? That's the

729
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: first thing. The second is, I think what we're going

730
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 2: to get after this game is some clarity, more to

731
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Speaker 2: your point earlier about how Ole Miss even fits into

732
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: the playoff. Assuming they're a playoff team, they've got like

733
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: an eighty one percent chance of getting in. They can

734
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,959
Speaker 2: still technically get into the SEC title game. They would

735
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 2: need to win this one. They would need for Texas

736
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 2: to beat Texas A and M. They would need for

737
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 2: Auburn to knockoff Alabama. So if they hit that parlay,

738
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: then we could be talking about Old Miss in the

739
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 2: SEC title game, or they could just win the egg Ball.

740
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 2: They could lock in a home game in the first

741
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 2: round of the playoffs, which I think is the better option,

742
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 2: but multiple ways. Now, again, eighty one percent chance for

743
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: Ole Miss to get in. Here on that point though,

744
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: one final statement, then I'm gonna kick it over to

745
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Speaker 2: you please. I want to mention this again because I

746
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: don't think I have been clear enough as I go

747
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 2: through my little playoff chaos scenarios. Having a first round

748
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 2: by is a perk. Yes, mould agree on that that's

749
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 2: a perk. That's the intention, Yeah, the intention is it's

750
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 2: a perk. I would also add that teams on buy

751
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: in the first round of the college football Playoff are

752
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: currently on a four game losing streak. It didn't go

753
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: well last year. I think the value in this tournament,

754
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 2: maybe if you're a better maybe if you're just a

755
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 2: fan of a team, is on being the number five

756
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 2: or the number six seed, and I want people to

757
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 2: commit that to memory. If you're the number five, if

758
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: you're the number six seed, you a get your buy

759
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 2: a week early because you're not playing in a conference

760
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 2: championship game in all likelihood, especially if you're old Miss b.

761
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: You lock in the playoff game against a team outside

762
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: of the top twelve, and that's important here. You're likely

763
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: playing the ACC champion that could be the twentieth best

764
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 2: team in the country, or you're playing somebody like Tulane,

765
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 2: both of whom I think you'd feel pretty good about.

766
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 2: And you get that game right home. And on top

767
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: of it, if you win that game, you're likely getting

768
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: the loser of the Big Ten championship or a school

769
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: like a Texas Tech. In my estimation, right Indiana, if

770
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 2: you're all missed, you might like your chances against Indiana.

771
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 2: I haven't had a chance to preview that one, but

772
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: I still think it's better than playing Ohio State. You

773
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: get a guy at a school like an Indiana. You

774
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 2: might get a school like a Texas Tech who you

775
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 2: also feel like you match up well against. I think

776
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 2: that is a decidedly better draw than having to play

777
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: Ohio State or Texas A and M the next round

778
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 2: of this thing. I could also be wrong, but this

779
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 2: is the way I've been looking at it now for

780
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 2: a few weeks running, and it feels like with each

781
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 2: passing week that becomes a little bit more true.

782
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 1: And we should say, by the way, I don't want

783
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: to make this whole show about playoff and playoff possibilities

784
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: and looking backwards looking forwards, that the way the top

785
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: four is determined has changed. So last year's zero to

786
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: four record includes teams that were not ranked in the

787
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: top four. Boise State this season, yeah, I mean Boise State.

788
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 2: Arizona State. Both of those teams were in the top

789
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: four in last year's bracket, and neither of them in

790
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: the current iteration would have be in the playoff, but

791
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: they certainly would not be getting a first round by.

792
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: Right, and so yes, and it was Georgia winning the

793
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: SEC Oregon taking on Ohio State after Ohio State had

794
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 1: one of the weirdest losses ever and everybody knew Ohio

795
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: State was one of the best teams in the country.

796
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: So maybe last year was just a weird unicorn year.

797
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: But I think I hear what you're saying, and I

798
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: think just because of the timing of it all and

799
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: the amount of time off, I still agree with you.

800
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: But it is a nothing sample size, just one year.

801
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: But I'm still with you, and you know, we also

802
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: have and we'll get to this momentarily, Like we have

803
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: a Georgia team who's already done with their SEC schedule

804
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 1: and so they don't really have any calculus in terms

805
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: of like what they do this week affecting their chance

806
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: or not getting not getting a chance to play for

807
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: the SEC Championship game, which also kind of seems like

808
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: a long shot. I think for Georgia to play in

809
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: the SEC Championship game. Weirdly enough, as they seem like

810
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: one of the best teams in the country right now.

811
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, the calculus is going to change immensely. I

812
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: think the big thing is you just don't want that

813
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: second loss. You don't want to be lumped in with

814
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: a lot more teams now in a decision making process,

815
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: if you're Georgia, if you're Old miss whoever, I think

816
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: that's where we are. Yeah.

817
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 2: And by the way, speaking of stakes, not to overlook

818
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: Mississippi State, but if Mississippi State wins this game, they're

819
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 2: going to a bowl. It's huge, which would be a

820
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 2: very big deal.

821
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: Again, the over under was three and a half.

822
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 2: I've said it till I'm bull in the face here.

823
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: But they're one of the better better stories in college

824
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: football this season because of the success that they've had.

825
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: They've been dangerous, they have been fun to watch, they

826
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 2: have been legitimately dangerous. Absolutely, there are stakes on both

827
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: sides of this one, Dan, where do you come down

828
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: on this matchup?

829
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: It's a weird one to previ because you don't know

830
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: what is going on at Ole Miss right that even

831
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: something could come out the morning of something could leak

832
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: and then the ole Miss team finds out that Lane

833
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: Kiffin's going to take your pick of whatever school. I mean,

834
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: there are job openings that we might not even know

835
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: about at time of recording that Lane Kiffen knows about

836
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: and might be interested in. So that's something too to consider.

837
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:22,959
Speaker 1: The game is on the road, right, it's Ole Miss

838
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: in Starkville, that's correct, So it's going to be a

839
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: huge wave of negative emotion surrounding Lane Kiffen and his

840
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: future behind the ole Miss sideline. This game is already

841
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: a game that's fraught with a ton of emotion and vitriol.

842
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: I like Ole Miss here. I don't know if I

843
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: like the points. I feel like this is going to

844
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: be I mean, this game is always like feels like

845
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: a strange game. As soon as a team seems like

846
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: the obvious better team contender team to win by fourteen

847
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: to twenty four points whatever, then it's a three point game.

848
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: No.

849
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: There just seems to be that kind of weirdness, especially

850
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: when that team that favorite is on the road. I'm

851
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: going to take the points here. I think both of

852
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: these teams will be able to run and I in

853
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: those types of scenarios when you're able to control some

854
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: of the game on the ground, you're controlling clock, you're

855
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 1: keeping defenses on the field, and then fourth quarters become

856
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: wild cards. And so in that situation, I think I

857
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: like Ole Miss to win close, but I'm happy to

858
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: take the points. And look you, my creto of taking

859
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: a good defense at home as a dog. Mississippi State

860
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: does not have a good defense. They're just a lot

861
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: more competent than they've been. So I'm gonna ta Mississippi

862
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: State to cover this game, to pop some big plays

863
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: against this Ole Miss defense, be it on the ground,

864
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: be it through the air, whatever. I just think we

865
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: have a back and forth game in front of us.

866
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: I think the college football guys are going to say

867
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: egg Bowl and Lane Kiffin's job future is in doubt.

868
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: We're not giving you a routine game. There's just zero chance.

869
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: I believe in the higher powers of this sport, and

870
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way we get like, oh, yep,

871
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: ole Miss won twenty eight fourteen and they just look

872
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: like the better team. I just don't see that as

873
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: anything that's going to be in the cards.

874
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 2: Yet. Normally I'd say, oh, Miss is like fourteen to

875
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: seventeen points better than Mississippi State, right, But my hesitation

876
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: is the distractions because of lane, because of the fact

877
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: that this is in Starkville. This is just the fourth

878
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 2: count of four road games this season for Old Miss,

879
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 2: and each of the previous three were one score affairs.

880
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: And Mississippi State has been very good against the.

881
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 2: Points bread seventy three percent against the point spread something

882
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 2: like that. So Vegas has had a hard time getting

883
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 2: a fix on the Bulldogs this year. Based on the

884
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 2: numbers that I've got in front of me, this is

885
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 2: a question of whether Mississippi State can stop the run

886
00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: or stop Trinidad Chambliss from killing them using the run.

887
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 2: I think this looks like a very big game for

888
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: one of those two guys, probably not both, but Trinidad

889
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: Chambliss Kawan Lacy, one of those two guys is gonna

890
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: eat in this game. And that's why I like All

891
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: Miss to win and cover this point spread because to

892
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 2: your point rivalry. Game on the road, I like having

893
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: that good matchup on the ground that can dictate the tempo.

894
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 2: I think that's a big advantage for Ole Miss here.

895
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 2: If they do need to pass, they're also very good

896
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: at passing too. Let's be real about Trinidad. Chambless has

897
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 2: been outstanding. There's a good matchup there as well, in

898
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: that Mississippi State likes to sit in his zone about

899
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: sixty percent of the time all miss as a passing offense,

900
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: fourth best passing team nationally against the own coverage, so

901
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 2: that tends to work to their advantage as well. I

902
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 2: just I like to lean on the teams that have

903
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: what I think is a definitive advantage on the ground

904
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: in a rivalry spot, because hey, hostel setting on the road,

905
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: it's easy to make opposing quarterback ghosts, right. I would

906
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 2: much prefer having a school on on my sheet here

907
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: that is better on the ground and has a good

908
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 2: matchup on the ground. So I'm fair. I'm very mixed

909
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 2: on this one. I am not at all confident. I

910
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 2: think all miss wins. I think they barely cover I've

911
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 2: got it at thirty three twenty five. But I agree

912
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: with everything you said. It probably will be weird. We

913
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 2: will see a fair amount of weirdness here, especially because

914
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: of the off field stuff that will probably bleed over

915
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: into this game to some extent. Thirty three twenty five,

916
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 2: I think Old Miss gets the dub.

917
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 1: Now here's here's the question. It's either a yes no answer.

918
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 1: Does something get leaked before the game kicks off? Yes,

919
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: I say yes as well.

920
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. It's too big not to It affects

921
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 2: too many things. One hundred percent.

922
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: All right, we agree on mat but not on the

923
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: actual pick.

924
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 2: Here three point thirty ABC. It is Georgia minus thirteen

925
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 2: points squaring off against Georgia Tech. They're playing this game

926
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 2: in Atlantai believe Mercedes Benz Stadium, so technically neutral site,

927
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 2: but Georgia Tech obviously based in Atlanta. There will be

928
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: a healthy supply of Georgia fans there. I am sure.

929
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 2: Last year Georgia won this game forty four to forty

930
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 2: four to forty two. Excuse me, in a casual, eight

931
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 2: overtime thriller. You know how it goes Other than Michigan

932
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 2: beating Ohio State. This was one of the big stories

933
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: of Rivalry Week a year ago. Forty four to forty two.

934
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 2: Hell of a game on a Friday night. I remember

935
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 2: you and I were tweeting about it, talking about it

936
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: was a lot of fun. This year, Georgia will get

937
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 2: into the SEC title game. If Texas beats Texas A

938
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: and M or if Auburn wins the Iron Bowl, or

939
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 2: they could just win this game and not get in

940
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 2: and grab the fourth or fifth seed, which I think

941
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: works to their advantage. Meanwhile, if you're Georgia Tech, you

942
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 2: need to win, and you need to hit an absolute

943
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 2: acc chaos parlay of col beating SMU Pitt beating Miami,

944
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: in Virginia Tech beating Virginia if you even want to sniff.

945
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 1: A conference championship, right, that's what two interim wins at

946
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech and Cal.

947
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, you need a lot to break the point

948
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: of this game, though, is not the playoffs. The point

949
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 2: of this game is not the rankings. The point of

950
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: this game is clean old fashioned hate. And I think

951
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: this one is a big time danger zone for Georgia

952
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:38,439
Speaker 2: right now. I think this is danger territory. Okay, bear

953
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 2: in mind Tech could absolutely affect seating by knocking off

954
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 2: the dogs. I mean, you want to beat your hated

955
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 2: rival always, always. But if we're being realistic here, this

956
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: is what they are playing for. They are playing to

957
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 2: make life difficult for Georgia more difficult for Georgia, and

958
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 2: I say beware the team with nothing to lose always

959
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 2: be where that team. I think Tech is gonna empty

960
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 2: the clip, make sure they bring their extra batteries for

961
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 2: Haines King, because he's gonna be out there with reckless

962
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 2: abandon I think we are gonna get one hundred and

963
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: ten percent full maximum effort from Georgia Tech to try

964
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 2: and pull an upset here. And that scares me because

965
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 2: Georgia is probably in the playoff one way or another. Right,

966
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 2: So I'm worried about this game, and the points spread

967
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: to me is giving me some schemes, because again, that

968
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 2: feels like a lot of potatoes against a team that

969
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 2: can score in Georgia Tech. What do you think.

970
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: I don't like how Georgia Tech's defense is played. You're

971
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: gonna talk about emptying the clip. You're gonna talk about

972
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: like throwing everything in the kitchen sink at Georgia. Of

973
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: course they are, of course they are. It's Georgia Tech, Georgia.

974
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: They do that every year, and sometimes they just have nothing.

975
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: There's nothing in the sink. And the thing I worry

976
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: about here is Georgia gets to play against the Georgia

977
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: Tech defense, and Georgia's really well coached, and this game

978
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: is not going to be in a hostile place like

979
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: it would have been if it were at Bobby Dodd,

980
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: and I worry about this Georgia Tech team. Now you

981
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: can say this was a look ahead spot last week

982
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 1: against Pitt, Buddy, if you go down twenty eight, nothing

983
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: to pit immediately, all due respect to Pitt, There's more

984
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: going on than just looking ahead with your defense. There's

985
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: more slop inside than perhaps we figured, and we saw

986
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 1: it what against NC State a few weeks ago. I'm

987
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: real worried about Georgia Tech in this one. I'm real

988
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 1: worried that maybe Georgia and this was a different Georgia

989
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: especially offense last year for a couple different reasons, that

990
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: Georgia is going to be taking this game not more seriously,

991
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: but they'll have a little bit more of that laser

992
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: focus like they would for a huge game, because there

993
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 1: are stakes in a way that there weren't necessarily last

994
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: season because Georgia Tech last year was good. But I

995
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: don't think Georgia went into this game with that kind

996
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: of steely focus. I think the Georgia Tech defense is

997
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,720
Speaker 1: the worst thing in this game, and it's not particularly

998
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: close we'll see the health wise where Georgia is on

999
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: their own defense with CJ. Allen. But even still, I

1000
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: think they've been playing well enough that this game is

1001
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: meaningful enough that I mean easier said than done. You

1002
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: gotta stop Haynes king on the ground and through the air.

1003
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: But I'm just not there with Georgia Tech in this

1004
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: moment because their defense, by not playing well, is potentially

1005
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: going to leave their offense with no choice but to

1006
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 1: once again score that many points, but in regulation this year.

1007
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: And I just think that's a tall ask. What's the

1008
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: latest number thirteen?

1009
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 2: Let me let me give you a counterpoint, please, So

1010
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 2: on the Georgia side, Georgia has played three offenses inside

1011
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 2: the top twenty sp plus offense. Okay, they gave up

1012
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 2: forty one on the road against Tennessee.

1013
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 1: Long time ago, but yes, long time ago.

1014
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: They lost at home against Alabama, and they beat Ole

1015
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 2: Miss at home a couple weeks back, but they gave

1016
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 2: up like thirty five points.

1017
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: Right, I like them. They helped Bama scoreless. They helped

1018
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: Bama scarless in the second half of Tech game, right

1019
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: they did.

1020
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 2: I like this Georgia defense. I do, But let's not

1021
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 2: pretend that they're the eighty five Bears. This is not

1022
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 2: a brick wall. They are ninety fifth in pressure rate,

1023
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 2: they are very mortal against the pass, and this still

1024
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 2: is a very good Georgia Tech offense. Say what you

1025
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: will about the defense, and I do not disagree. They've

1026
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: been a mess.

1027
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: But offensively they're very good and they can score. That's true.

1028
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 2: So when I'm looking at this point spread here, and

1029
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 2: when I'm talking about danger zone territory for Georgia, I'm

1030
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 2: not even so much saying it in terms of like, yeah,

1031
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: I think Georgia Tech can win. I don't know if

1032
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: they can win. Can they cover thirteen points based on

1033
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: what we've seen from the Georgia defense against better offenses.

1034
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: I think that answer is yes, and I think this

1035
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 2: will be fun. I think they will pull out all

1036
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 2: the stops to try and keep this one close. I've

1037
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 2: got it at forty one to thirty one Georgia, but

1038
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 2: I think Tech cover.

1039
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, my mind went to thirty seven to twenty

1040
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: eight in Tech covering, but even that might even be

1041
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: a backdoor situation. I think george is just gonna be

1042
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: too good in too many phases, like if you have

1043
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: a pathetic defense at times, it's hard to feel good

1044
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: about you winning a game against a team of George's caliber.

1045
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: And I think Georgiea's offense has gotten better over the

1046
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: course of the season, like this is a good Texas

1047
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: team or it's a good Texas front. It hasn't been

1048
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,439
Speaker 1: a great Texas pass defense obviously this season. They've dealt

1049
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: with some injuries and that came about out of hand. Yeah,

1050
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: I think Georgia Tech covers. I think they'll still be

1051
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 1: able to move the ball some. But again, George has

1052
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: been playing the runs so well. Yeah that if you

1053
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: could make Georgia Tech one dimensional and make Haynes king

1054
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: you and this is not easy. This is easier said

1055
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: than none. Haines King beat you through the air as

1056
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 1: a as a mote, like you're in a great place.

1057
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: So I think George is gonna take away bread and

1058
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: butter too often. But yeah, I think Georgia Tech will

1059
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: still be able to score some. But yeah, I think

1060
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,280
Speaker 1: this is Georgia by nine to eleven.

1061
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 2: I mean, what you're describing is not unlike what I

1062
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 2: described last week when Georgia Tech played Pitt Right, and

1063
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 2: my whole thesis for that game, is that Pitt's good

1064
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 2: enough to take away enough of the ground assault to

1065
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 2: make Georgia Tech a little bit more one dimensional, and

1066
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 2: to obviously score when they have the football. I think

1067
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: that was at least partially right, and I think Georgia

1068
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 2: can do a lot of the same stuff. But I

1069
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 2: just think I think the stakes in this one are

1070
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 2: dramatically different than what we saw we could go, even

1071
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 2: though the ACC and the rights to get into the

1072
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 2: ACC title game more very much on the line. I

1073
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 2: think when you play a rival, right this, a national

1074
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 2: power like this, a school that has been in the

1075
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 2: running nearly every year for the last decade in Georgia.

1076
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech is very much still in this mode of

1077
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 2: trying to prove itself like it belongs on that stage.

1078
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 2: And we got a great game from them a year ago.

1079
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 2: They could have won that game in eight overtimes. I

1080
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 2: think we're going to get another good effort from Brent Key.

1081
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 2: Any Brent Key squad plays hard, What's.

1082
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,959
Speaker 1: What's true, There's gonna be a lot of that Key

1083
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: sauce tye.

1084
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 2: I just I can feel it come in. I think

1085
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 2: this is going to be a fun game. By the way,

1086
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 2: did we decide if we're doing the watch along for

1087
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 2: this game or for some other game on Friday? Are

1088
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 2: we still going to do that? Uh?

1089
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: What time is the Texas text A and M game?

1090
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 2: That's a late game at seven thirty.

1091
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: Seven thirty eastern. Yeah, I'm just doing bedtime calculations here.

1092
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one's at three thirty. The A and M game,

1093
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 2: which we're going to talk about next, is at seven

1094
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 2: thirty eastern time.

1095
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think we should do one of these. Yeah,

1096
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: all right, stay tune that out. We'll do that out.

1097
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: We'll do one these two.

1098
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, seven point thirty on ABC.

1099
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 2: Texas A and M Texas Longhorns. Texas A and M

1100
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 2: favored by two and a half points. They called this

1101
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 2: one the lone Star Showdown. The rivalry is back now

1102
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 2: in Austin for the first time since twenty ten. Been

1103
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 2: a minute since they played this one at DKR. It

1104
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 2: is essentially winning in for Texas A and M. They're

1105
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 2: already a lock. I think for the college football playoff.

1106
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 2: It is really a question at this point of are

1107
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 2: they going to make the SEC title game? And furthermore,

1108
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 2: what is the seeding when they get to the playoff.

1109
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,959
Speaker 2: They can also get in and if they lose, if

1110
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 2: Bama and Old Miss loose, so they've got multiple ways in,

1111
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 2: but the most obvious would be to just win this

1112
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 2: game move on to Atlanta. I don't get this line

1113
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 2: at all. Two and a half favor of Texas A

1114
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 2: and M on the road, right. I saw that, and

1115
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 2: I had to resist every impulse to make this my

1116
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 2: lock of the week because I know that's almost an

1117
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 2: instant jinx. But did you feel similarly when you saw

1118
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 2: two and a half and only two and a half.

1119
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: Yes, though it's really difficult to sort of gauge what

1120
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: Texas is or isn't, and that's Texas's fault, to be clear.

1121
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: They can score points against not so good defenses and

1122
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: then they score a single offensive touchdown against the good

1123
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: defenses they play. And I think Texas A and M

1124
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: has a good defense and you can get them on

1125
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: the ground. Texas isn't a team who gets teams on

1126
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: the ground, good teams especially, and so it's hard to

1127
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: get a read on why you should like Texas, especially

1128
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: since Texas's arguable best defensive player, Anthony Hill, is coming

1129
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: back from injury and Miss I think last week, and

1130
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: they he's been beat up for a couple of weeks now.

1131
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: Arch Manning has not been particularly good against good defenses.

1132
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: Texa A and M is a good defense, They're well coached.

1133
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: Texas A and M gets better over the course of games.

1134
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: So the only reason not to like Texas A and

1135
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: M here really is the reason why Texas A and

1136
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: M has struggled at times this year, and those are

1137
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: passing game and first half mistakes from Marcel Reid. We

1138
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: sought against LSU recently, we sought against South Carolina recently.

1139
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: Those teams were not able to do anything in the

1140
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: second halves of those games. As Marcel Reid improved and

1141
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: Colin Klin made adjustments for this offense. Because I don't

1142
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: really worry about the defense too much. I think just

1143
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: that Mike Alco team is going to figure things out.

1144
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: They've done it both seasons he's been there. I like

1145
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: A and M here, and I like A and M

1146
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:55,479
Speaker 1: in sort of a really reticent way because the game

1147
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: is in Austin, and when you have a big game,

1148
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: a big rivalry emotion spot at home with a team

1149
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: that's capable of being good on both sides of the ball,

1150
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: they're like the best of arch Manning throws maybe the

1151
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: most beautiful or one of the five most beautiful deep

1152
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: balls in this sport. I just you got to be

1153
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: able to depend on something against a top five team.

1154
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: You're like, we're playing a top five team, and this

1155
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: is what we're rallying behind to beat them. This is

1156
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: the aspect of what we do well that we know

1157
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 1: we can depend on against anybody. Take your pick. I

1158
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,479
Speaker 1: guess on what that is for Texas because they don't

1159
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: know either, No, they don't. And so I'm going A

1160
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: and M here to win by a touchdown. I think

1161
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: this could be a fun back and forth. I think

1162
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: we might see a couple of explosion plays from Texas,

1163
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: but drive to drive what sustains the Texas offense? You

1164
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: know what sustains the back half of this beat up

1165
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: defense for Texas against A and M. I think it's

1166
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: a mystery to everybody. And so I'm going A and

1167
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: M here to win this game twenty seven to twenty

1168
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: something like that, twenty four to seventeens, somewhat low scoring,

1169
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: maybe a quick start and then low scoring. But I

1170
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: have A and M by a touchdown on the road. Yeah.

1171
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 2: I just think if you're picking Texas. Here you're betting

1172
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 2: on a hero game for March Manning.

1173
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: And you're betting on something new that hasn't happened.

1174
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I think it's going to take a

1175
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 2: hero game from March if they're going to pull this upset.

1176
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 2: And the biggest issue I see is this is a

1177
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 2: Texas A and M defense that generates a ton of

1178
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 2: pressure up front. They are first in the nation in

1179
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 2: sacks per dropback. So we often see teams that get

1180
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 2: a lot of pressure but can't convert that into sacks.

1181
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 2: That is not the case with Texas A and M.

1182
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 2: They're one of the best havoc defenses. They get a

1183
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 2: lot of plays for loss. This is very much a

1184
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 2: playmaking defense and that has been a problem for Texas

1185
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 2: protecting arch Manning. I read the stat off a week

1186
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 2: or two ago. I'm not even sure where it's at now,

1187
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 2: but to the point stands. Arch Manning has been one

1188
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 2: of the most pressured quarterbacks in all the power for so.

1189
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, some of.

1190
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 2: It may be Arch isn't as good as people hoped,

1191
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 2: but I think a lot of it is that he's

1192
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 2: constantly got guys in his face, and Texas A and

1193
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 2: M is going to try to force that issue. That

1194
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 2: is what this defense is all about. The numbers are

1195
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 2: very good against the pass. I think that is doing

1196
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 2: in no small part to the fact that they're just

1197
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 2: very good at get into the passer. So that to

1198
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 2: me is a real problem for the Longhorns in this game,

1199
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 2: because it's something they've struggled with all season long. Even

1200
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 2: though to their credit, I feel like they have improved,

1201
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 2: Arch has improved. We have definitely seen some growth on

1202
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 2: the Texas side. But I just not enough in this

1203
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 2: capacity to make me feel good about this matchup here

1204
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 2: two and a half points. I did think about making

1205
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 2: this a lock. I still might come back and make

1206
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 2: it a lock when we do our part two. I've

1207
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 2: got it at something like thirty one to twenty Texas

1208
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 2: A and M. I think they went on the road

1209
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 2: and I get you know a lot of emotion. Good

1210
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 2: defense at home, right these Is it a good defense? Well,

1211
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 2: I don't know this moment. It's a better defense, but

1212
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:09,919
Speaker 2: I think it's an open question as to how good

1213
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 2: that Texas defense is. Yep, So I'm on thirty one twenty.

1214
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 2: I like A and M to win this one, to

1215
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 2: go undefeated into the College Football playoff after the SEC Championship.

1216
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 2: We'll see how they do in that game. But this

1217
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 2: is where I'm at.

1218
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, the only thing that gives me a little bit

1219
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: of pauseitive and I just don't know if Texas falls

1220
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: under this is Texas A and M schedule is one

1221
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: that like they've just played a lot of teams nowhere

1222
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: near the top of the end.

1223
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 2: I know you're not wrong, man, I was looking at

1224
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 2: that too, and that that was one of the things

1225
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 2: that caused me to pump the brakes a little bit

1226
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 2: on right, being too overly aggressive on Texas A and M.

1227
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: And so Texas not that they are this hugely successful

1228
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: team relative to expectations, relative to why don't they have

1229
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: something that they do excellently well every week? They're different.

1230
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: They're different than playing against MISSOO or South Carolina or

1231
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: you know a week LSU this season. They just they

1232
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: just are. And that's what gives me a little bit

1233
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: of pause. That this game is in Austin, there is

1234
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: you know, Texas is motivated on like three different levels here,

1235
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: right that like there's the arch factor that all can

1236
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: be forgiven. If he scores thirty five points in a

1237
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: fourteen point win for Texas against A and M at home.

1238
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 1: With some of his struggles this season, with some of

1239
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: Sark's frustrations with some of the frustration with the offensive

1240
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: line and the running game, the past defense and overcoming

1241
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 1: injuries and depth concerns on the secondary, that Texas is

1242
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: just going to lay everything out there. They're not focused

1243
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: on anything else. They need help to get to the playoff, right, So.

1244
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's virtually impossible for Texas to get

1245
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: into the playoff.

1246
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: Right, They need a crazy amount of help to get

1247
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: into any sort of large conversation speaking of So yeah, right,

1248
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: So Texas is just this is the entire season from physical, emotional,

1249
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: spiritual place, and they're at home and they have game changers.

1250
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 1: Now that units aren't game changing units, but like they've

1251
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: got speed on the outside, they've got talent on defense, obviously,

1252
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: especially in the front of that defense. They're healthier at

1253
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 1: safety than they were earlier in the season. Like, there's

1254
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: a lot still going for Texas to do something that

1255
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 1: they haven't been able to do, which has put everything

1256
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: together against a really good team. But again, you're banking

1257
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: on the mysterious, if that's what you feel, and I

1258
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 1: just I can in this moment, So yeah, I'm going

1259
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: A and M here to cover we.

1260
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 2: Agree, all right, some of other games here, We're not

1261
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 2: going to do a preview of these. We will preview

1262
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 2: some on tomorrow's episode, but just to give you the

1263
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 2: lay of the land. Other games taking place this weekend

1264
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 2: on Rivalry week, you probably know a bunch of these already.

1265
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 2: We got the Heroes game between Iowa and Nebraska early

1266
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 2: in the day on Friday. Also on Friday, we've got

1267
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 2: the ram Falcon Trophy, one of my personal favorites, between

1268
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 2: Air Force and Colorado State. You got the old Oaken

1269
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 2: Bucket between Indiana and Purdue, and of course, later on

1270
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 2: nine pm on Fox, you've got Arizona on the road

1271
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 2: at Arizona State for the Territorial Cup in a game

1272
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 2: that should be fun as hell.

1273
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: I am really looking forward to the territory and could

1274
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 1: have could have real Big twelve championship stakes.

1275
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 2: It absolutely could. It absolutely could. We'll talk a little

1276
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,959
Speaker 2: bit more about what that looks like tomorrow, but for sure,

1277
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 2: Arizona State kind of on the outside looking in at

1278
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 2: this point. But if we have the weird parlay situation

1279
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 2: in the big twelve, which it is the Big twelve

1280
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 2: if you could ever rule it out, ASU could be

1281
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 2: there potentially, but they need to win first against Arizona.

1282
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 2: Then as we moved to Saturday, again, no shortage of

1283
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 2: Big Slash interesting games. The game is probably where it

1284
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 2: starts and ends high noon on Fox. Number one. Ohio

1285
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 2: State on the road against Michigan right now at time

1286
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 2: of recording an eleven and a half point favorite. Again,

1287
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 2: Ohio stayed on a four game losing streak. We've got

1288
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 2: Miami against Pitt. Miami is on the road about a

1289
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 2: touchdown favorite against the Pitt Panthers. We've got Kentucky and

1290
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 2: Louisville playing for the Governor's Cup. And we've got Clemson

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01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 2: South Carolina. South Carolina favored by a battlefield goal in

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01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 2: the Paul Metow Bowl. Those ones are all early in

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01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 2: the middle of the day. We got a whole bunch

1294
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 2: of other games. Dan, We've got the Battle on the Bayou,

1295
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 2: one of my other favorite rivalry names between Uel Monroe

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01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 2: and Louisiana. We've got Oregon Washington. I don't know if

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01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 2: there's an official name for that. I saw Cascade Clash.

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01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 2: I don't hear them throwing that one around a whole lot.

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01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's some kind of rivalry. And Oregon only

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01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 2: favored by six and a half points, which is interesting.

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01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, usually earlier in the season, but it's come to

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01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 1: rivalry week with the end of Oregon Oregon State as

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01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: the year ender, and obviously a huge amount of emotion

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01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: in this one and huge amount of stakes in this

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01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: one as well.

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01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 2: Enormous, absolutely enormous. LSU on the road at Oklahoma. Oklahoma

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01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 2: needs a win here to clinch a spot in the

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01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 2: College Football Playoff. They're a ten point favorite. We got

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01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 2: Vandy and I had a c Tennessee favorite by about

1310
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 2: a field goal. That one is a big deal. Misszoo

1311
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 2: on the road at Arkansas and the battle Line rivalry

1312
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 2: always a fun matchup, and of course they're playing for

1313
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 2: Paul Bunions as Paul Bunions ax wis consin Minnesota. Wisconsin's

1314
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 2: come on last couple weeks looking a little bit better

1315
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 2: about a field goal underdog going on the road to Minneapolis,

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01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 2: UCLA and UCLA, UCLA and USC excuse me, I'm playing

1317
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 2: for the victory Bell and Florida Florida State in the

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01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:35,480
Speaker 2: Sunshine Showdown. And then the closed things out a hodgepodge

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01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:39,440
Speaker 2: of other games, the Commonwealth Cup between Virginia Tech and Virginia,

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01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 2: the Iron Bowl between Alabama and Auburn, the Land of

1321
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 2: Lincoln Trophy being played at seven point thirty on Fox

1322
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 2: between Northwestern and Illinois, the Battle for the Fremont Cannon

1323
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 2: another one of my personal favorites between UNLV and Nevada. Nice,

1324
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 2: and then in the late late late window. I can't

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01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 2: believe they did this to me. But No Dame a

1326
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 2: thirty three point favorite on the road against Stanford, Fresno

1327
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 2: a field goal favorite against San Jose State for the

1328
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 2: Valley Trophy, and Wyoming against Hawaii Hawaii favored by ten

1329
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 2: and a half points. Is it the Penny Olo Trophy?

1330
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 2: I believe that is how you say it. I am

1331
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 2: not sure, but one of the lesser known trophies in

1332
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 2: college football that I'll talk a little bit more about tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, cam, Like, Look, if we just gave you Friday,

1334
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 1: this is my QVC pitch. If we just gave you Friday,

1335
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: you'd say to yourself, what a weekend?

1336
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 2: Oh games totally.

1337
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: And what are we doing? We're throwing in Saturday for

1338
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: the same price we're throwing in a ridiculous amount of

1339
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 1: college football. So all my message to you, tie and

1340
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: message to everybody, you gotta pace yourself. Yeah, don't go

1341
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 1: hog wild with the leftovers on Friday as the game start.

1342
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 1: Have some just don't go crazy, because maybe catch a

1343
01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 1: workout Friday morning, Maybe catch a workout Saturday morning, catch

1344
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: a power nap because you're staying up late to watch

1345
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: the solid verbal at midnight Eastern time Saturday night. Reviewing

1346
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,600
Speaker 1: all of this ahead of the committee's announcement on Sunday, Well,

1347
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:11,600
Speaker 1: I guess that would be the following week. Excuse me,

1348
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,600
Speaker 1: but you got to pace yourself because yes we have

1349
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: the following week, Yes we have conference championship week, and

1350
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 1: yes there's gonna be a late night show after that one.

1351
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: So this next weak ish is going to be enormous.

1352
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 2: Squats, do some crunches. It's a test of your metal

1353
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 2: as a fan, is what it is.

1354
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 1: I agree.

1355
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 2: What I would suggest is not illegal, but somewhat diabolical.

1356
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,600
Speaker 1: Greenies. Is that what they call in baseball.

1357
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 2: I'm not going there with this, Okay, but I'm not

1358
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 2: not going there with this. Ido Oh what I would

1359
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 2: suggest because the day after Thanksgiving. Look, I don't care.

1360
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 2: I don't care if you're hosting. I don't care if

1361
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 2: you're out going to a family member's house. Whatever. It

1362
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 2: takes a little bit, at least for me in my

1363
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 2: old age these days sort of wake up to boot

1364
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 2: up a lot of times. I meat and stuff I

1365
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 2: don't normally eat, not always feeling tip top shape. Right,

1366
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 2: So pretty good chance on Friday you're gonna be around

1367
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 2: to watch the early slate of games, and there are

1368
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 2: a bunch of good ones. But what I would suggest

1369
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 2: is maybe mid afternoonish gets like four o'clock window. That's

1370
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 2: when I want you to load up your significant other

1371
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 2: on as much turkey as humanly possible.

1372
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: Settle Oh, I see where you're going.

1373
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 2: I want I want you to induce a good along

1374
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 2: a very peaceful slumber.

1375
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:44,919
Speaker 1: What if they also like college football?

1376
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 2: That will get well? Then I can't you know? Then

1377
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,600
Speaker 2: then then you should be drinking like liquid IV or

1378
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 2: something to keep yourself awake up. Yes, correct, not a

1379
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 2: sponsor could be, but I want you if you are

1380
01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 2: in a situation or the other pe people in the

1381
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 2: household don't really want to watch college football all day

1382
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:08,600
Speaker 2: for two days running mm hmm. Nice helping of turkey leftovers.

1383
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1384
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 2: Get that nap going middle of the day, middle of

1385
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 2: the afternoon, I guess, get that nap going. By the

1386
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 2: time they wake up the Lake games, maybe wol have

1387
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 2: already started or about to start, and they won't feel

1388
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 2: like wanting to go and do anything because after you

1389
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 2: wake up from mid afternoon nap A lot of times

1390
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 2: Dog City, Yeah, yeah, you're just you're just not in

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01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 2: the mood for that.

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01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: I agree.

1393
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 2: I think that's the move to break up the day.

1394
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 2: If you find yourself in a situation where you don't

1395
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 2: know if you're gonna be able to watch the games,

1396
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 2: but you want to, well, diabolical but totally legal. Yeah,

1397
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 2: it's throwing it out there.

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01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 1: And remember to stretch, remember to hydrate. You don't want

1399
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 1: to pull a hammy. Jumping up and down on your

1400
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: couch right you're pacing nervously. You don't want to go

1401
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: down with a hammy would be the worst possible moment. No,

1402
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 1: I think I think we all have this together hundred percent.

1403
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 2: So look, those are our picks for Friday, and that's

1404
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 2: what you have to look forward to on Friday. As

1405
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 2: I said, a couple times. Now we've got a part

1406
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 2: two gott to preview all the other games.

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01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: It's gonna drop tomorrow.

1408
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 2: We're like diverting a little bit from our normal Tuesday

1409
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 2: Thursday release schedule because no one downloads anything on Thanksgiving,

1410
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 2: so you will get an episode on Tuesday and Wednesday

1411
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 2: before the holidays start. And then, as you said, yes,

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01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 2: we will have our midnight live stream recapping all that

1413
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 2: occurred in rivalry week. You can either tune into that

1414
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 2: one live on YouTube at midnight, or you can listen

1415
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 2: to the recap bright and early on Sunday morning.

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Speaker 1: Correct a lot of options.

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01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 2: Dan Rubinstein, We're going to do this again tomorrow. The

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01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 2: video again will look a little bit different, but hopefully

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01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 2: the fine people got what they needed to go about

1420
01:13:54,680 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 2: into the college football world confidently and feel prepared for Friday. Sir,

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01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 2: for that guy all the way over there, my good

1422
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:04,600
Speaker 2: friend Dan Rubenstein, for myself, Tie Hilding Band, Thank you

1423
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 2: for downloading. If you're listening for supporting, check us out

1424
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 2: at our Ballers dot com. In the meantime, you know

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01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 2: the drill, stay silent, Peace,