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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, it's Sophia. Welcome to work in progress.

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Speaker 2: Friends.

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Speaker 1: I don't often get to record episodes in person anymore

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Speaker 1: because once the pandemic began, we all started doing this

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Speaker 1: on zoom. But today I am coming to you all

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Speaker 1: from my favorite place in the United States of America,

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Speaker 1: the White House, And we have so many exciting things

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Speaker 1: to talk about. Why we're here. No, for everyone who's

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Speaker 1: going to ask on social like aren't you used to it?

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Speaker 1: Buy now?

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Speaker 2: I will never get used to this. This is the

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Speaker 2: coolest thing ever.

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Speaker 1: But I'm sitting down with our incredible Press Secretary Koreane

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Speaker 1: Jean Pierre, and there's plenty for us to discuss about

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Speaker 1: what you do here. But what I really want to

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Speaker 1: tell the people at home is that, like me, you

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Speaker 1: are a wildly huge fan of the Olympics.

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Speaker 3: I loved the Olympics so much since I was a little, little,

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Speaker 3: little little Track and field is my thing, gymnastics, ice

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Speaker 3: skating in the winter Olympics, and I was a track

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Speaker 3: and field runner in high school, so I did the

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Speaker 3: fourger intimeter hurdle. So watching the Olympics was like my deal,

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Speaker 3: the ideal. I loved it, loved it so much.

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Speaker 1: I really, I really went into a depression when when

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Speaker 3: I think everybody is. I think the whole world did. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And it was a connector. It like connected. It was

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Speaker 3: like humanity sportsmanship. It was just beautiful to watch and

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Speaker 3: we needed it, Yeah, we did. It's a really nice

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Speaker 3: reminder that we all live in a global community and

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Speaker 3: we all actually can both compete within reason and root.

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Speaker 1: For each other.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 1: That's a nice person kind of ethos.

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Speaker 2: That's what's so special.

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Speaker 3: Every four years and I think I think the Winter

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Speaker 3: Olympics is every two years. I forget now and you

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Speaker 3: together in this amazing sportsmanship and they compete and I

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Speaker 3: don't know, it's just and everyone gets to root for

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Speaker 3: whoever they love, what country they represent, and it's a

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Speaker 3: beautiful thing. It's a there's something about it that's honorable.

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Speaker 3: It makes you feel very patriotic. Yeah, And it is

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Speaker 3: not about Republican Democrat if you're looking at the USA

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Speaker 3: It's lifting up these incredible young people who have trained

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Speaker 3: all of their lives to be exactly where they are.

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Speaker 3: The best of the best, and then when they embody

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Speaker 3: that themselves and they are embodying this amazing person that

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Speaker 3: and what they have to give up to get there. Oh,

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Speaker 3: the stories, the stories get me, the stories get made.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's hitting me in real time that you you're

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Speaker 1: talking about Olympians, but you could also be talking about

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Speaker 1: what you do. You could be talking about advocacy, being

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Speaker 3: You know, you.

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Speaker 1: Essentially have won the Gold Medal of journalists when you

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Speaker 1: become the White House Press Secretary, don't you.

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Speaker 3: Think, I mean, it is an honor and a privilege

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Speaker 3: on behalf of this president and the behalf of this country.

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Speaker 2: In many ways, when you think.

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Speaker 3: About how what we do in that briefing room every

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Speaker 3: exercising democracy, not just here in this country but globally.

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Speaker 3: It is being televised, right that briefing is being televised

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Speaker 3: around the world, and everyone wants to hear what the

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Speaker 3: is amazing being at that brief room. Can we can

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Speaker 3: you can? I nerd out first? I guess because we

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Speaker 2: Can we just talk about that?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: I've taken all the photos of everything in this room so.

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Speaker 3: That your listeners watchers know we are in room one eighty.

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Speaker 3: Room one eighty is literally one of my favorite rooms

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Speaker 2: So, the White House campus.

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Speaker 3: Is on eighteen acres of property, and there's the Eysenower

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Speaker 2: The White House is literally right there.

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Speaker 3: And Room one eighty used to be right now. White

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Speaker 3: House staff can book this room, but room one eighty

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Speaker 3: used to be the Vice President's office.

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Speaker 2: Presidents have used this room.

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Speaker 3: And we are sitting in the room where doctor Martin

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Speaker 3: this room back in February ninth, nineteen sixty five, ahead

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Speaker 3: And obviously Black Americans, African Americans in the South could

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Speaker 2: And obviously we all know our history here.

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Speaker 3: That's where John Lewis was a young twenty three year

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Speaker 3: and if you look around this room, all of that

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Speaker 3: You have Lyndon B. Johnson a quote I can't see

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Speaker 2: That's Vice President Humphree. I mean this is this room. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So I'm glad that we're in here because it speaks

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Speaker 2: Me being in the role that I'm in, which.

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Speaker 2: A White House Press secretary is supposed to be. Right.

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Speaker 3: You think about the Vice president, Vice President Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 3: And I think this speaks to who we are. This

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Speaker 3: And that has been just going back to your question,

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Speaker 3: not be here. It is always a joy and a privilege.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that was a very love it. I want

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Speaker 2: It's all connected. It is all who we are, it's

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Speaker 1: There are people who will rightfully criticize things about this

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Speaker 1: is yes, and we have work to do, certainly. But

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Speaker 1: the magic of the American experiment, American democracy founded on

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Speaker 1: these ideals of equity, equality, that this was a place

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Speaker 1: And I don't think it's an accident that you and

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Speaker 1: And we are sitting in this room, and I am

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Speaker 2: Because it gives you chills. Yes, it is profound. It

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Speaker 1: We just looked at, you know, the anniversary of suffrage,

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Speaker 1: So white women got the right to vote, but look

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Speaker 1: at how long it took us to get Roe v. Wade,

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Speaker 1: What we got instead were Jim Crow laws. In the South.

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Speaker 1: unbelievable to me, you know, learning from Stacy Abrams and

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Speaker 2: Which we have, that they don't have it. It doesn't exist.

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Speaker 3: And it sounds familiar, right I started off talking about

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Speaker 3: of the most impressive people that I've ever met. And

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Speaker 3: the first hero hero that I ever had was my

442
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Speaker 3: mom and that continues even now. I watch her sometimes

443
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Speaker 3: and I'm like, how do you continue to fight?

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Speaker 2: You're always fighting? Uh. And it is the most the.

445
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Speaker 3: Most the most honorable thing, the most beautiful thing that

446
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Speaker 3: I've ever witnessed. And so that's it's very much it's

447
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 3: like a third of who I am, Right, there are

448
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Speaker 3: many reasons not who I am, but a third of

449
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 3: how I got here, Yeah, right, which is that foundation,

450
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Speaker 3: how I grew up, what I saw as a kid,

451
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Speaker 3: my experiences. It's very much a big part of who

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Speaker 3: I am today. And I never forget that. I never

453
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Speaker 3: forget that, and I try to, you know, empower that

454
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Speaker 3: into my daughter and uh, and it's important for me

455
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Speaker 3: to do that too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I read you know, your your memoir is so beautiful.

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Speaker 2: At Home.

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Speaker 1: Green's book Moving Forward is amazing, and you you talk

459
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: so much about your journey and that book, and one

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Speaker 1: of the things that really stuck out to me, you said,

461
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Speaker 1: you've felt like a third parent, oh your household, which

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Speaker 1: I think is a very common experience for daughters of

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Speaker 1: immigrants and oldest daughters certainly. And I wonder how some

464
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Speaker 1: of those things that can certainly shape us in tough ways,

465
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Speaker 1: how do you see that sort of third parent role

466
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Speaker 1: now as the accomplished woman that you are. How do

467
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Speaker 1: you make space for the ways that it was difficult

468
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Speaker 1: but also likely made you this powerhouse of an adult.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, I had to become an adult at a

470
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Speaker 3: very young age. Because my parents were working six seven

471
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Speaker 3: days a week. I barely saw them, you know. I

472
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Speaker 3: remember there would be a time where I would go

473
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Speaker 3: to bed and I would try to wake up early

474
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Speaker 3: to see them, but they were already gone. And because

475
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Speaker 3: they were working twelve fifteen hour days, and I had

476
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Speaker 3: a younger brother, a younger sister, and I took care

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Speaker 3: of them.

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Speaker 2: You know, we had babysitters and neighbors.

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Speaker 3: Who watched watched over my siblings, but you know, I

480
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 3: played a role in making sure that they were okay.

481
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Speaker 3: They were being fed, they got ready and to go

482
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Speaker 3: to school, and I became an adult. You don't even

483
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Speaker 3: realize it at the time. At the time, you're just

484
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Speaker 3: doing your part for the family. You don't realize that

485
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Speaker 3: you're growing up very fast and you're missing out on

486
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Speaker 3: a lot of the fun, a lot of the kids

487
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Speaker 3: stuff that kids do, And so.

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Speaker 2: I didn't have that.

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Speaker 3: I think now that I have a kid, that part

490
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Speaker 3: of my childhood informs me as a mom. And what

491
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Speaker 3: I mean about that, mean about that is oh mean

492
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Speaker 3: by that is you know, I try to I'm very

493
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Speaker 3: very mindful and my kid having a childhood, I'm very

494
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Speaker 3: very mindful in what I share with her and what

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Speaker 3: she experiences. I'm very very mindful of how important it

496
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Speaker 3: is for her to hang out with her girlfriends or

497
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Speaker 3: hang out with her buddies and have those structures, time structure,

498
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Speaker 3: And it might sound minor, but because of my experience,

499
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 3: it plays a role into her experience and how I

500
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Speaker 3: mother her, would be a parent to her because just

501
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 3: obviously luckily for her two moms, but it is really

502
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Speaker 3: important to me and how I my part of the

503
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Speaker 3: co parenting, how I make sure that she has a

504
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Speaker 3: fulfilling childhood because I want her to have that.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like in certain ways because you missed

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Speaker 1: round one childhood play?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

508
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: That Now raising a daughter on your own, yeah, you

509
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: get to almost relive your childhood as her friends.

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Speaker 4: It's like, oh, yeah, now I get to do Oh

511
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Speaker 4: this is what this was like I was a kid, right,

512
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Speaker 4: I do get to have some fun and ride around,

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Speaker 4: like bike.

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Speaker 2: Riding and doing fun things and I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You know, you know, double dutch or whatever it is

516
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Speaker 3: doing the things that I wasn't able to do as

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Speaker 3: a kid, and you know, hide and go seek all

518
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Speaker 3: the fun things.

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Speaker 2: And like you become like.

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Speaker 3: This adult child with your kid rightly because you're having

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00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 3: fun with them and you're experiencing things that you wanted them,

522
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Speaker 3: you would have wanted to experience yourself for them.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And it's so interesting to me thinking about it

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Speaker 1: being in this stage. You know, we're so many of

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Speaker 1: the people in our lives, you know, have kids of

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Speaker 1: their own yea, or in relationships with people with kids.

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Speaker 1: We are also the generation that has the most access

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Speaker 1: to information that's right, mental health research. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't think our parents knew about reparenting your inner child.

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Speaker 1: But we do, and we I think it's so cool

531
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Speaker 1: that we get to be conscious of it when it's happening.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 3: And you just said something mental health. That is something

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00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 3: as a kid I couldn't when I was you know,

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Speaker 3: when I was sixteen years old coming out to my mom.

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Speaker 2: It was you know, it.

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Speaker 3: Didn't go well, right, and then you deal with all

538
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Speaker 3: the emotional baggage from that, and you don't talk about

539
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 3: going to therapy or we didn't talk talk about going

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Speaker 3: to therapy or dealing with your.

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Speaker 2: Own mental health.

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Speaker 3: And now today it is something that is so important,

543
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Speaker 3: that is so key and people just functioning and.

544
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Speaker 2: Dealing with loss.

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Speaker 3: You think about coming out of COVID and the pandemic

546
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Speaker 3: and what these kids had to deal with, and that

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Speaker 3: is one of the things that I'm you know, one

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Speaker 3: of the platforms that both the First Lady and the

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Speaker 3: President talk about is mental health. And when you hear

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Speaker 3: it at the top, right, when you hear it from

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Speaker 3: an administration, a White House administration, then.

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Speaker 2: It feels safe for all of us to talk about.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, it's it's so important because we didn't talk

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Speaker 3: about that growing up.

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00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: I didn't talk about that growing up, especially in immigrant household.

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Speaker 2: You don't talk about.

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Speaker 1: That stuff well because you're working so hard to assimilate

558
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Speaker 1: and be good exactly, and you know, not have a problem.

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Speaker 1: Don't look over here.

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00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and you don't want to stick out. I

561
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Speaker 2: don't want to stick out.

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Speaker 1: Back in just a minute after a few words from

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Speaker 1: our favorite sponsors, do you think hearing it from the

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Speaker 1: top down in the way that you're discussing, because I

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00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: feel very similarly, you know, in whether it's entertainment, you know,

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Speaker 1: my day job world, or my partner doing this advocacy

567
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Speaker 1: in sport. I believe, I know we all do. We

568
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Speaker 1: believe that vulnerability can really be a key to new

569
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Speaker 1: and healthier community.

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Speaker 4: Do you.

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Speaker 1: Think it was what you learned in those vulnerable spaces

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Speaker 1: or perhaps examples set by people you know like President

573
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Speaker 1: and doctor Biden? What inspired you to be so vulnerable

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Speaker 1: in your book? Because I'm asking this, you know, a

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Speaker 1: as an interviewer, but also as a person who is

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Speaker 1: considering how much I want to share of my own life,

577
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Speaker 1: because when you do these jobs and you are a

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00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: public figure, to be reduced to a fraction of yourself

579
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Speaker 1: is painful. But to share your deepest secrets with everyone

580
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: is so exposing, and you took my breath away in

581
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Speaker 1: really special ways because in the book you shared about

582
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Speaker 1: really difficult experiences, but they're common for a lot of women,

583
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Speaker 1: from you know, suicidal ideation or attempting to sexual abuse.

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Speaker 1: You you just put it out there. I am so

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Speaker 1: in awe and also wondering how you decided and knew

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Speaker 1: it was the right choice.

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Speaker 3: So I think for me, and it's a good question

588
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 3: because sometimes I'm like, wow, I really put it.

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00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: All out there the bookshelves.

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Speaker 3: So I believe it was a way of owning my story, right,

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Speaker 3: And I think of power, I think that's exactly right,

592
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 3: and it's too it's reclamation of power a thousand percent,

593
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 3: but also being a leader and leading and showing that

594
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Speaker 3: it's okay to be vulnerable, and also telling people I

595
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 3: see you too. If people see me, then I hopefully

596
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 3: they also feel like they're being seen, if that makes

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Speaker 3: sense at all. And so there were a couple of things.

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00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 3: It was certainly reclaiming myself my life by telling my truth,

599
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: but also sharing because I felt like at the time

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Speaker 3: I had a leadership role. People were looking towards me

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Speaker 3: and I was, you know, a leader for so many

602
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Speaker 3: people that I felt like it is important to put

603
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 3: that out there and I want people to heal, and

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Speaker 3: maybe by sharing my story, hopefully others will heal or

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Speaker 3: get on the path of healing.

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Speaker 2: And I think it matters for people.

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Speaker 3: Know, it goes back to what you were saying about

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Speaker 3: being the first and being the first of so many.

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Speaker 3: Representation matters, It really matters. And I think it's connected

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Speaker 3: to the book as well. It's like representation is so important.

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Speaker 3: And when people see you and you break that visual

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00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 3: whatever mindset of what a particular role is supposed to

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00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 3: look like, and you break that and you're and it

614
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: opens up to you and you're saying to yourself, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know what, I can do that role because look

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Speaker 3: at her, look at him, look at them, look at

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Speaker 3: that person, and you can break how that's visualized for people.

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Speaker 3: And I think if you tell your story, it also

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Speaker 3: you don't know what people are suffering from or dealing with.

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Speaker 3: And so if you're a public figure and you're out

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Speaker 3: there and people see you, because we were not all perfect,

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Speaker 3: people look at you and they're like, and you're a gorgeous,

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Speaker 3: beautiful woman, and people say, oh, she's so much perfect.

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Speaker 2: But you've had your trials relationship.

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Speaker 3: O kay, right, And I think if people know that,

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Speaker 3: then they're like, holy cow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right.

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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, Sophia has made it and she's

629
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 3: wonderful and she's a wonderful person, but she has a

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00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 3: story to tell and we all that helps me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I find to your point, the willingness to

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Speaker 1: share in that way when you said someone might see

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Speaker 1: that and begin to heal. I think so often, whether

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00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: you've been through trauma or abuse or whatever it might be,

635
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: you get convinced by the lie that something happened to you,

636
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: that maybe you deserved it. And when you realize how

637
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: universal these experiences are, we can start doing some of

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Speaker 1: what happens in an incredible building like this, and we

639
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: can look at the root causes of these systemic problems

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Speaker 1: and say, Okay, if we have a mental health crisis,

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00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: if we have a problem with violence against women, how

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00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: are we going to solve those problems? How can we all?

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Speaker 1: And to your point about representation, we've got to have

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Speaker 1: diversity of thought and experience in the room, because that's

645
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: how none of the problems get left in the corner

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00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: where someone didn't see them because someone didn't have them.

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Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people bark about the way

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Speaker 1: we talk about diversity and representation, and what I always

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Speaker 1: want to encourage them to realize is that the more

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Speaker 1: of us there are in a room, the better the

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Speaker 1: outcomes for everyone, including the people who used to be

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Speaker 1: the only ones in rooms.

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00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 3: Life exactly exactly. And it's very interesting too. I mean, look,

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Speaker 3: I talked about how diverse this administration is. I talked

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Speaker 3: about my role here. Obviously we've gone back and forth

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Speaker 3: about being the White House pre Secretary, but I honestly

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Speaker 3: don't think that I would be the White House pre

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Speaker 3: Secretary if it wasn't for President Biden, Doctor Biden. And

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Speaker 3: I say this because you have to have people who

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Speaker 3: believe in you as.

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Speaker 2: Well, who see you in the way that they see you.

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Speaker 3: And I think that matters. Representation matters, but you also

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Speaker 3: have to have those allies, those mentors, people who look

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Speaker 3: up and say, no, you should be exactly where you are,

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Speaker 3: or you should be even elevated even more. And I

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Speaker 3: don't think I would be in this position if it

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Speaker 3: wasn't for them. They wanted to make sure that their

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Speaker 3: White House pres secretary represented yes, and their voice.

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Speaker 2: But also you know, you know.

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Speaker 3: The country and meet the moment that we are in,

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Speaker 3: and I think that matters too, Right, It matters that

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Speaker 3: Lyndon Johnson LBJ signed the Voting Rights Act, signed the

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Speaker 3: Civil Rights Act. Right, it matters that, you know, doctor Martin,

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Speaker 3: Luther King and so many other civil rights icon they

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Speaker 3: came together to get that done. And it takes that,

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Speaker 3: It takes that effort to get that done. And so

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Speaker 3: you fast forward to today and all of the work

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Speaker 3: that where we still need to get done in the

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Speaker 3: historic work that we have gotten done, and it takes

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Speaker 3: all of us, all of us to come together and

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Speaker 3: make that happen.

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Speaker 1: So when you talk about the President and the First

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Speaker 1: Lady having that kind of faith in you, you know,

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Speaker 1: I want to give some of the folks at home

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Speaker 1: a little bit of the background of how this happens

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Speaker 1: because prior, you know, to being in the administration, you

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Speaker 1: were a senior advisor, You were a national spokeswoman for

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Speaker 1: move on dot org, which is an incredible, incredible advocacy group,

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Speaker 1: and then you became a senior advisor to the president's

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Speaker 1: campaign in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how and then I was I don't think many

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Speaker 2: people knew this.

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Speaker 3: I became for the last three months of the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty campaign, I was the chief of staff to the

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Speaker 3: running mate, which was oh wow.

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Speaker 2: Then Senator at Kamala Harris. So it's like full circling

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Speaker 2: in many ways.

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Speaker 3: And then when I came into the White House, I

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Speaker 3: went into the press shop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, so you have this wonderful history of advocacy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that.

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Speaker 1: I think we'll get into a bit about what you

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Speaker 1: learned at home and what you learned in your early career.

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Speaker 1: Can you tell folks at home how does one become

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Speaker 1: a press secretary?

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Speaker 2: What is your job?

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Speaker 1: We see you in the briefing but what happens here

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Speaker 1: all day? For the people that say, I think I

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Speaker 1: want to do that, but like they don't.

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Speaker 3: Really know what happens outside of the daily brief Oh

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Speaker 3: there's so much more that happens outside of the briefing room.

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Speaker 2: But I see the hum.

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Speaker 1: Around your office at the times.

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Speaker 2: I know, but I a lot that happens.

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Speaker 3: So in a regular day, I wake up pretty early

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Speaker 3: in the morning and I start taking in the news,

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Speaker 3: whether it is you know, the print, online, TV. I

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Speaker 3: just start kind of consuming what's out there, what's the

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Speaker 3: news of the day, What's happened, what are what are

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Speaker 3: the things that reporters care about, in particular, the White

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Speaker 3: House Press Corps cares about, because those are the reporters

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Speaker 3: that we deal with. I have twelve amazing people on

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Speaker 3: my team who are part of the White House Press Office,

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Speaker 3: and they all have their own kind of issues that

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Speaker 3: they manage that they're working on. They're constantly working on stories.

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Speaker 3: And I come into the office, I have meetings. I

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Speaker 3: have meetings all throughout the morning, and the first meeting

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Speaker 3: that I have starts at seven thirty am in the morning,

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Speaker 3: and so we do that, and then I spent about

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Speaker 3: four or five hours prepping for the briefing, and I

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Speaker 3: have people to your point, you know, zipping in and

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Speaker 3: out of my office coming through prepping me and getting

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Speaker 3: me ready for whatever news of the day issues that

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Speaker 3: reporters care about. And then I do a briefing that's

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Speaker 3: up to between thirty minutes to an hour. Sometimes I

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Speaker 3: have a guest, sometimes I don't, and so that takes

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Speaker 3: a big chunk of my day. But I also have

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Speaker 3: to prep the president sometimes, travel with the president, work

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Speaker 3: through work with other departments, across the admitting on particular

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Speaker 3: issues that they're dealing with U and so, and I'm

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Speaker 3: in a lot of meetings that I have to, senior level,

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Speaker 3: senior level meetings that I'm in because we have to

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Speaker 3: it's not just about the day, but it's about what

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Speaker 3: are we doing three months from now, two weeks from now,

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Speaker 3: next week, And so there's a lot of planning, a

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Speaker 3: lot of prepping, a lot of you know, there are

747
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Speaker 3: fires that you have to just get rid of takeout.

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Speaker 3: And so I always tell my team they are on

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Speaker 3: the front lines.

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Speaker 2: They are on the front lines of what.

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Speaker 3: Is happening in the world literally in the country and

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Speaker 3: certainly in the world with the incoming of questions and

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Speaker 3: things coming from.

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Speaker 2: Reporters, and so we are on the front lines.

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Speaker 3: I call them superheroes because they're pretty amazing and what

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Speaker 3: they're able to do. But also, you know, the person

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Speaker 3: that I that I have to that I have to

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Speaker 3: report to as the president directly, you know what's in

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Speaker 3: the news, what's going on, what's happening, and so it

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Speaker 3: is a it is a twenty four to seven job,

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Speaker 3: of course, and it is an I always say this

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Speaker 3: because it's very true. It is an honor and a

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Speaker 3: privilege to be in this job because I would never

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Speaker 3: thought that I would be doing this when I was

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Speaker 3: growing up.

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Speaker 2: Is going to your question here. I thought I was

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Speaker 2: going to be a doctor.

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Speaker 3: My parents, being immigrants, they wanted me to be a doctor,

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Speaker 3: a lawyer, engineer, those are the things, right that they thought.

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Speaker 2: I relate the joke in the heavy Italian needs. There

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Speaker 2: you go.

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Speaker 1: I would get that you can be a doctor or

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Speaker 1: a lawyer, or a lawyer or a doctor.

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Speaker 2: Love it, I love it.

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Speaker 1: I was like the grandparents.

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Speaker 2: I love it, I love.

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Speaker 3: It, and for them that was success. And I thought

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Speaker 3: that's what I was going to do.

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Speaker 2: And then I.

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Speaker 3: Decided coming out of college that I didn't want to

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Speaker 3: be a doctor.

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Speaker 2: That that wasn't my passion.

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Speaker 3: So what I tell young people that come up to

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Speaker 3: me and asked me about how I got to where

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Speaker 3: I got to the secret to my success? Whatever question

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Speaker 3: did I get? I always say to them, follow your passion,

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Speaker 3: Follow what you're passionate about. And sometimes you'll be in

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Speaker 3: a place where you're.

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Speaker 2: Like, well, am I going to pay my bill? How

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Speaker 2: am I going to get to New York?

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Speaker 3: How I'm going to get to LA How I'm going

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Speaker 3: to get to wherever you want to get to to

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Speaker 3: live those dreams or dc in this instance, and I

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Speaker 3: say to them, worry about it, obviously, but don't worry

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Speaker 3: about it at the same time.

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Speaker 2: Right, if you're passionate, you'll find a way.

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Speaker 3: You'll find a way to get through that and really

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Speaker 3: continue to build on that dream that you have for yourself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be back in just a minute. But here's

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Speaker 1: a word from our sponsors. Well, and something I think

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Speaker 1: is really amazing. And again I want to be very

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Speaker 1: respectful of what you're allowed to be not allowed to

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Speaker 1: say as a federal employee. But it is not lost

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Speaker 1: on me that you grew up in a home with

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Speaker 1: a mother who was a care worker. Yeah, and that

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Speaker 1: you currently work for a presidential administration that has done

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Speaker 1: more for care workers, the care economy, and people in

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Speaker 1: need of care than any administration in history. I mean

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Speaker 1: a couple of things I'll.

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Speaker 5: Just say because I don't know if you again, I

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Speaker 5: don't know if you're allowed to, but that would be

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Speaker 5: your miss go for it as a citizen journalist not

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Speaker 5: to But you know, our current administration, President Biden and

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Speaker 5: Vice President Harris have put these issues squarely into not.

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Speaker 1: Just an agenda on healthcare, but the economic agenda. They

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Speaker 1: have invested in the dignity of care workers, which includes

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Speaker 1: affordable childcare, paid family leave, paid medical leave, elder and

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Speaker 1: disability care, living wage jobs for care workers, which you

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Speaker 1: know to be so important for our friends at home.

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Speaker 1: In April of twenty twenty three, they signed one of

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Speaker 1: the most sweeping executive orders, actually the most in history,

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Speaker 1: over fifty directives made to make care more accessible and affordable,

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Speaker 1: which meant that another one hundred thousand American families have

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Speaker 1: more affordable childcare and more of the issues I listed

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Speaker 1: a moment ago. And I don't know if in your

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Speaker 1: conversations in this complex the care economy and care workers

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Speaker 1: come up a lot, or if it happens to be

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Speaker 1: a coincidental confluence of who you are and who they are.

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Speaker 1: But I guess I wonder again, not to get into

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Speaker 1: the politics of it, as we have an impending election,

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Speaker 1: but I wonder how your mom's caregiving experience, how it

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Speaker 1: shaped your relationship to your public service, but what it

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Speaker 1: feels like to work in an administration On a day

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Speaker 1: when those executive orders get signed.

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Speaker 2: It's mind blowing.

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Speaker 3: Truly, It truly is mind blowing because to your point,

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Speaker 3: I think many of us come into this life of

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Speaker 3: public service for many reasons and my guesses, and I

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Speaker 3: can only speak for myself, my experience as growing up

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Speaker 3: as a kid, as a young adult has certainly led

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Speaker 3: me to this space because I wanted to make people's

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Speaker 3: lives better because I saw what my parents were going through,

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Speaker 3: whether it was healthcare, whether it's just a minimum wage

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Speaker 3: that they could afford, buying a home, you know, buying

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Speaker 3: a car, paying student loans, helping us pay our student loans,

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Speaker 3: going through school, and I watched them really suffer. I

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Speaker 3: watched them go through a lot of heartache, and you know,

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Speaker 3: trying to just put us in the best schools that

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Speaker 3: they can. And I think I talk about this, I've

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Speaker 3: talked about this. I remember they sent us to Catholic

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Speaker 3: school and the reason we went to Catholic schools because

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Speaker 3: the public school system was not great where I grew up.

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Speaker 3: I went to public school for one year, and my

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Speaker 3: parents worked really hard to get me into public school.

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Speaker 3: And I remember there'd be times where I would be

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Speaker 3: sitting in the in the principal's office because they didn't.

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Speaker 2: Pay they couldn't pay that month, and I had to.

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Speaker 3: But they understood that I couldn't stay home because there

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Speaker 3: would be nobody home and my parents had to work.

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Speaker 3: So they allowed me to come to school, but I

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Speaker 3: had to sit in the principal's office until my parents

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Speaker 3: could pay the tuition. I mean, those are the story

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Speaker 3: is that not just my parents have, but many others have. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And so working in this administration, you think about elder care, childcare,

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Speaker 3: paid leave, the cancer moonshot. We just went to New

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Speaker 3: Orleans to announce a major initiative coming out of that.

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Speaker 2: You think about all.

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Speaker 3: Of these initiative that matter personally to me and to

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Speaker 3: so many others. But this is why I came into

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Speaker 3: this space. This is why I'm working for this administration.

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Speaker 3: I told the President recently he would be the only

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Speaker 3: person that I would ever do this job for because

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Speaker 3: I believe in the work that he wanted to get done.

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Speaker 2: And you think about.

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Speaker 3: The first four months, for example, of this administration. We

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Speaker 3: got something called the American Rescue Plan.

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Speaker 2: Ye got that done.

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Speaker 3: Only Democrats in Congress signed, voted for that. The President

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Speaker 3: was able to sign. No Republicans signed onto that. And

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Speaker 3: what that did was. You think about the economy. It

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Speaker 3: turned the economy back on its feet. Are the strongest

882
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Speaker 3: economy in the world, leading economy in the world. And

883
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 3: you think about that moment what was happening. There was COVID,

884
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 3: There was a pandemic, a once in a century pandemic

885
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 3: that was devastating the economy.

886
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: Schools were closed, businesses were closed.

887
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 3: And we needed to get things back up. That American

888
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 3: Rescue Plan put a few hundred bucks in people's pockets.

889
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 3: There was a child tax credit which helped, you know,

890
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Speaker 3: eliminate some of the poverty that we were seeing communities

891
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 3: like mine.

892
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: I mean in poverty reduction, a reduction in childhood poverty

893
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: of overs.

894
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 3: A couple of hundred bucks in people's pockets that matter.

895
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 3: Shoot everything right, so that you think about communities that

896
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Speaker 3: are overlooked, black and brown communities, poor communities. This is

897
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 3: a president that made sure that there was equity at

898
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 3: the center of that so that they were able to

899
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 3: get that vaccination, that they were able to.

900
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Speaker 2: Get what was needed to get them back on their feet.

901
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 3: Nineteen Now there's more than nineteen million applications for small

902
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 3: businesses because of the American Rescue Plan, because of the

903
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 3: president's economic policies and putting equity at the center of it. Yes,

904
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 3: so we turned that around, and that's why many of us.

905
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Speaker 2: I could speak speak for many of my colleagues.

906
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Speaker 3: That's why we're here because of that public service and

907
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 3: what we get to do, whether it's the economy, whether

908
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 3: it's these different policies that deal with childcare, elder care,

909
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 3: paid leave as you just mentioned. I mean we just

910
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 3: recently the President made a huge announcement with the Vice

911
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 3: President and the first ten drugs that Medicare is now

912
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 3: able to negotiate so that big farmer doesn't cheat us.

913
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 2: Yes, billions of dogs, six billion dollars.

914
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Speaker 1: That matters to cap insulin for people at thirty five dollars.

915
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 2: That matters, matters to people.

916
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Speaker 1: I read the testimony of a young delegate who went

917
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: to the convention for the first time this year, and

918
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: you know, he's a college kid and applied and he

919
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: was taught talking about how he and his mother both

920
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: have Type one diabetes and how what the Biden Harris

921
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: administration has done to ensure their access to the medicine

922
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Speaker 1: they need to stay alive. Is the reason he's gotten

923
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 1: politically active as a young person, and I just thought

924
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: that's it.

925
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 3: You know, polics is personal, right, Politics is politics personal?

926
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Speaker 1: Yes, And you know, when you talk about the economy,

927
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: one of the things that was so inspiring to me

928
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: to see the domino effect of the American rescue plan,

929
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: you know again, COVID global crisis, once in one hundred

930
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Speaker 1: years pandemic, the world shut down, and to see some

931
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Speaker 1: of our pure nations experiencing inflation at eighteen twenty one percent,

932
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: and President Biden and Vice President Harris brought ours down

933
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Speaker 1: so quickly that we actually began to stabilize the entire

934
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Speaker 1: global economy. We not only got our inflation to a

935
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Speaker 1: historic low without causing a recession, which again, for my

936
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: friends at home, google it, this is a real thing.

937
00:49:58,560 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: This is math.

938
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Speaker 1: It's the first time we've been able to do that

939
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Speaker 1: without causing a recession in history, and other countries' inflation

940
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: rates are coming down because of our economy.

941
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Speaker 2: Leadership matters, It matters so so much. Leadership, and it's the.

942
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Speaker 1: Sort of thing that excites me because now to see

943
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: that they've stabilized the economy in this once in a

944
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Speaker 1: hundred year crisis, and now they're going after the price

945
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: gouging of the big corporations. They're going after, you know,

946
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: creating fair prices for pharmaceutical companies. And the DOJ is

947
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: suing this crazy housing software that's been jacking up everybody's rent.

948
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Speaker 1: I am like, go off, mister president, Madam Vice President.

949
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Speaker 2: I love y'all. Like I can't speak to what the

950
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 2: DOJ does. Wow, you can.

951
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Speaker 6: But I am the civilian on this podcast and I

952
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 6: read about it yesterday and I'm very thrilled and like,

953
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 6: it is such an incredible thing to see action being

954
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Speaker 6: taken on behalf of people.

955
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 2: And again we need to talk about the student own.

956
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Speaker 1: I forgive this predatory, predatory death. It doesn't it doesn't

957
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: actually have to exist.

958
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to exist, and it thrills me.

959
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: To see all of this, and I, I guess I

960
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: just wonder, you know again, you represent so many intersections, yea,

961
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: as I know I do in my own right, and

962
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: I just I know how meaningful it is for me

963
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: as an advocate, you know, as a surrogate for this

964
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: campaign and others, as someone who comes here on my

965
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: free time, you know, spends my own money to be

966
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: here to speak, to show up and testify in front

967
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: of Congress because I believe in my duty as an

968
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: American to my fellow Americans. For you to be inside

969
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: of this administration like you actually work here. I'm clearly

970
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: the biggest fan of.

971
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 2: This place, but you and we appreciate you.

972
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: Is it the wildest thing to see this much sweeping,

973
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: incredible historic policy for the people while you work here.

974
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 3: So two things I want to say. Two things I

975
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 3: want to say. First of all, thank you for your

976
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 3: leadership and your advocacy. And it is amazing what you

977
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 3: do on your own time on the issues that you

978
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 3: believe in, and you use your voice, you use your platform.

979
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 2: It is not easy to do and I understand that.

980
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: I know I'm a pain in the ass, but I

981
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: can't know.

982
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 3: But it matters, like we need more Sophias, like we

983
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 3: really do. We need more people like you to be

984
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 3: out there using their platform to lift up.

985
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: The people who can't right, the people.

986
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 3: Who don't have the ability to lift themselves up on

987
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 3: issues that matter. And you know, I talk about equity.

988
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 3: I talk about making sure we don't leave different communities

989
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 3: that are historically left behind behind And this is I mean, look,

990
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 3: I start off saying why I decided to work for

991
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 3: the Biden Harris administration. Why I decided to work for

992
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 3: this particular president is because I believed in his leadership

993
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 3: and believed in what he wanted to do and knew

994
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 3: because of his experience because he was senator, because he

995
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 3: was Vice president, that he knew how to get this done.

996
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 2: And you're right.

997
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,240
Speaker 3: There has been a sweeping amount of legislation that people

998
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 3: had told us that we could not get done. Yeah,

999
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 3: from the American Rescue Plan to the bipartisan infrastructure legislation.

1000
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 3: And the last administration, infrastructure was a joke. Every two

1001
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 3: weeks it was infrastructure.

1002
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 2: It was a joke. And now we got it done

1003
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 2: any bipartisan way. Because of who.

1004
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 3: He is, he was able to reach across the aisle

1005
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 3: and get this done and it's no longer a joke.

1006
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 3: We got the Packed Act, which helps our veterans right

1007
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 3: and their families, Yes, and got that in a bipartisan way.

1008
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 3: We got the chips and science that we're talking about

1009
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 3: bringing manufacturers, manufacturer manufacturing back here to this country, which creates.

1010
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 2: Good paying job.

1011
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 3: I mean that matters things made in America. I mean,

1012
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 3: this is about investing in America, and it's so important

1013
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 3: We already talked about the health the health care side

1014
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 3: of things with the Inflation Reduction Act. Also the biggest,

1015
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 3: biggest climate climate change kind of legislation investment into beating

1016
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 3: climate change, dealing with climate what we're seeing right now.

1017
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 2: He got that done.

1018
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 3: And so you know it is you started off saying this,

1019
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 3: that this he's going to go down as one of

1020
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 3: the greatest presidents of our lifetime because of what he's

1021
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 3: been able to do in four years. Yes, in four years,

1022
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 3: and it's because of his experience. It's because he's been

1023
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 3: here in Washington, d C. For a long time, but

1024
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 3: also understood relationships and understood what mattered to people and

1025
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 3: who he is fundamentally at his core, how he grew

1026
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 3: up in Scranton, Pennsylvania, and in Delaware and knowing what

1027
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 3: it's like to sit around a kitchen table and having

1028
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 3: to make those difficult decisions. I know as a kid,

1029
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 3: you know who was as adults had to become adult

1030
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 3: as a young kid. You sit around the kitchen table

1031
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 3: and you're looking at the expenses, You're looking at your

1032
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 3: opening up that says past you on the envelope, and

1033
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 3: you're trying.

1034
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 2: To figure out Holy cow, how we're.

1035
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 3: Going to pay to make sure the lights stay on,

1036
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 3: you know, how to make sure that we have enough

1037
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 3: clothing or enough enough to make sure that my brother

1038
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 3: and my sister are able to You know, it's winter

1039
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 3: this year.

1040
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 2: You know we're going to get a big storm, right,

1041
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: winter is coming.

1042
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 3: How do make sure that they have a coat and

1043
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 3: boots so that they can go to school? I mean,

1044
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 3: this is the things food around the table, and so

1045
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 3: these are the hard, difficult decisions. So I get it,

1046
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 3: and I think that's why for me, just talking for

1047
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 3: myself personally, how I'm able to talk about these issues

1048
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 3: in a real way because I've experienced it, and I

1049
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 3: know this president has experienced it, and I know it's

1050
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 3: all coming from this administration. The Bien Harris administration is

1051
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 3: coming from a place where we understand what it is

1052
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 3: like when you don't have when you don't have the

1053
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 3: medication that you need, the life saving medication that you

1054
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 3: need to survive to just survive.

1055
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 2: And so it is.

1056
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 3: It's it has been quite remarkable being able to be

1057
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 3: at the front lines of what we've done at this

1058
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 3: administration and to be able to to lift up what

1059
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 3: we've been able to do it is.

1060
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 2: It has been quite remarkable.

1061
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I just imagine you almost feel so incredibly proud.

1062
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm so proud.

1063
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: You have such incredible you have an incredible ability to

1064
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: reflect on how change happens the nation. And you know,

1065
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 1: we are on the precipice of change with our president

1066
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: saying I've done my duty here and it's time to

1067
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 1: pass the torch. You know, we we are in this

1068
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: incredible season of you know, transformation and leadership. And to

1069
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: see him do that, not only for such a wonderful

1070
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 1: and tremendous vice president, but for a black woman, Yeah,

1071
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: a black South Asian woman. It's it's monumental to me

1072
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 1: as a woman.

1073
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 3: And it is, yeah, it is. It's emotional, it's incredible.

1074
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 3: But it's not surprising.

1075
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, right. If you think about.

1076
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 3: The last three and a half almost four years, if

1077
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 3: you think about his commitment, if you think about him

1078
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 3: saying he was going to be a transition type of president,

1079
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 3: if you think about him picking then Senator Kamala Harris

1080
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Speaker 3: to be his vice president, it is not surprising.

1081
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Speaker 2: It is not, and you know.

1082
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 4: It is.

1083
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 2: It is.

1084
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 3: It is rare that you meet someone who meets the

1085
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 3: moment and understand their place in this moment and is

1086
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 3: the embodiment of patriotism. Yeah, it's the definition of what

1087
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 3: patriotism is.

1088
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 2: And that is Joe Biden.

1089
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Speaker 1: I love that when you think about it, big moment

1090
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: for years, thanks for it, big all it's big. Yeah,

1091
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: and you think about the country and you think about

1092
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 1: the world. How do you come back into your own

1093
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: body in a moment like this and think from here

1094
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: out as you look at the next few months, in

1095
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: the next few years, what feels like you're work in progress?

1096
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 3: Wow, it's this is gonna probably sounds weird, But I

1097
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 3: think the next four or five months now wherever we are,

1098
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Speaker 3: it's probably gonna be the most important couple of months

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Speaker 3: that we have experienced, only because there is so much

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Speaker 3: more to get done. Only because now we know, right,

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Speaker 3: we have four months to get this done, four months

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Speaker 3: to get that done, and so we want to and

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Speaker 3: I believe, and I'm speaking for him here a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I think he wants to continue to keep that commitment.

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Speaker 3: So there's still, to your point, a lot of work

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Speaker 3: in progress. We still have to figure out how do

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00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 3: we lower costs for Americans. Sure, we still have to

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00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 3: figure out how do we beat these cooperations who are

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00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 3: trying to take advantage of of everyday people and there

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Speaker 3: are ways that we can do that. Right, there's still

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Speaker 3: a global leadership that we have work to be done there,

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Speaker 3: and I know that's something that is something that the

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Speaker 3: President has led on. So I think there's like a

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Speaker 3: anxiety and eagerness, you know, to be like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: we still have a lot.

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Speaker 2: More to get done.

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Speaker 3: And for me, yeah, just for you, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: for Green like working Pross, like what else in the

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Speaker 3: next couple of months.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be about work, could just be lfel.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listening to you rattle all this off, I'm like,

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00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: you're working. Progress needs to be a vacation at a cocktail.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know what you feeling.

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Speaker 3: And man, you know, look, I have this amazing little

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Speaker 3: human that I get to co parent with co parent,

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Speaker 3: and I want to do right by her, and that

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Speaker 3: is a major work in progress for me is how

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Speaker 3: do I continue to do that work? And so that

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Speaker 3: is big and that is something that I certainly will

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Speaker 3: I will be doing for the rest of my life.

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Speaker 3: Because you're a parent throughout your life obviously doesn't stop

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Speaker 3: at eighteen it continues I have I have a long

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Speaker 3: way to go before eighteen hits anyway, So that's really

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Speaker 3: important my family. More broadly, I think I'm still growing

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Speaker 3: and learning about myself and want to contell I feel

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Speaker 3: like I'm still very much a work in progress and

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Speaker 3: will continue to be in things that I want to

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Speaker 3: learn and grow into and be And it's to be

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Speaker 3: it's going to be exciting. You know.

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Speaker 2: I've been in the space for three and a.

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Speaker 3: Half years right, very much focused on the work. And

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Speaker 3: I always tell people in you're a White House pre secretary,

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01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 3: there's no prime there's no personal life, right that you

1144
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 3: I go to the grocery store and people see me

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01:00:57,880 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 3: as the last pre secretary. You don't see me as

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01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 3: career Jean Pierre. So it is going to be a

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01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 3: transition of Okay, how am I no longer the Whitales

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Speaker 3: pre secretary and now I'm Krue Jean Pierre again?

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Speaker 2: And what does that look like for me? And so

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Speaker 2: I think it's something that I have to think about.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to find out. Oh gosh, thank you,

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Speaker 2: thank you,