Speaker 1: Episode five oh six, How to Save money on a
Speaker 1: kitchen remodel with Delancy Carson.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Frugal Friends Podcast. My name is Jen,
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Speaker 1: don't we, Jill. We love renovating.
Speaker 3: We apparently love doing We love it.
Speaker 1: We've never stopped renovating in the last three or four years,
Speaker 1: just always renovating. So what we do over haul renovations,
Speaker 1: and not everybody can do an overhaul renovation. So Delancey
Speaker 1: actually helps women just hey, ditch the fear of power
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Speaker 1: in their homes, so transforming outdated spaces to things that
Speaker 1: they love with out blowing the budget. So we have
Speaker 1: loved hearing from her and seeing her on Instagram. At
Speaker 1: Delancey Diy she has renovated about five different kitchens affordably.
Speaker 1: So we we're talking about where to go, go in
Speaker 1: on where you can save, and the best tips for
Speaker 1: doing the most with the least. So without further ado,
Speaker 1: let's get into it.
Speaker 3: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Delancy, Welcome to the Frugal Friends podcast. We're so excited
Speaker 1: to have you here.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me on. I am
Speaker 4: so frugal and so this is right up by Ali.
Speaker 3: We've noticed, Yeah, you do some really amazing renovations for
Speaker 3: low cost and a lot of times when people do
Speaker 3: that for low costs, you can see it you can
Speaker 3: really sell. But yours look really great. So I'm excited
Speaker 3: to hear what you have to say.
Speaker 4: I love frugal, but like high impact, so that is
Speaker 4: what all of my renovations are. They're like, how can
Speaker 4: I spend the least amount of money and make this
Speaker 4: look the most different awesome?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And we like to say we're frugal not cheap.
Speaker 1: So absolutely we like to save money, but we bougie,
Speaker 1: so we like to look good and we like our
Speaker 1: things to look good and be good quality. Yeah all right,
Speaker 1: So our first question is what do people waste the
Speaker 1: most money on? And where should you not? So I
Speaker 1: guess it's two questions. What do people waste the most
Speaker 1: money on? And then what are those things?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: What are the things that are not a waste? What
Speaker 1: should they not skimp on?
Speaker 4: This is such a good question. So I actually think
Speaker 4: that the thing that people waste money on is they
Speaker 4: don't start like a DIY project with the end in mind.
Speaker 4: So sometimes we get so distracted by the little things
Speaker 4: that we forget to take into account the whole picture.
Speaker 4: So like, if you're making over your kitchen, you need
Speaker 4: to have a vision of what is this all going
Speaker 4: to look like together? Because if you don't, if you
Speaker 4: just start with like ooh, I would like green cabinets
Speaker 4: and ooh, I would like a fun backsplash. If you
Speaker 4: don't have a vision of them all together, you might
Speaker 4: get to the end of the project and be like,
Speaker 4: oh man, I spend all this money, but now I'm
Speaker 4: looking at this backsplash and I hate how it looks
Speaker 4: with the cabinets. So I think one way to avoid
Speaker 4: all that is at the beginning before your project, take
Speaker 4: a look at all all the things you want to change. Okay,
Speaker 4: do I want to update cabints? Do I want to
Speaker 4: add a backsplash? Do I want to change the countertops
Speaker 4: or work with what I have? Do I want to
Speaker 4: change the cabinet knobs? And then put it all together
Speaker 4: in a mood board. Making yourself a mood board is
Speaker 4: going to save you so much time and hassle, and
Speaker 4: it's going to guarantee that you actually like the finished
Speaker 4: product when you're done. So you can make a mood
Speaker 4: board online with like Canva or PowerPoint. You just bring in,
Speaker 4: you literally bring in let's see what green cabinets look
Speaker 4: like with gold knobs, and what look like with this backsplash,
Speaker 4: and then you can kind of see, oh, actually, the
Speaker 4: green and the backsplash. Those don't go together. What if
Speaker 4: I change it out for a marble backsplash? And so
Speaker 4: I think people waste money by doing renovations and then
Speaker 4: getting to the end and being likeugh, you know, if
Speaker 4: I just spent like three hundred more dollars, I could
Speaker 4: have had a backsplash I actually like, instead of being
Speaker 4: stuck with this one for the next ten years.
Speaker 3: I think part of that issue comes from I hear
Speaker 3: so many people say, oh, I can ever picture something
Speaker 3: at the end, you know, Like my husband and I
Speaker 3: have done renovations on literally every place we've ever owned,
Speaker 3: and that's one of the number one comments that we
Speaker 3: get is, man, how did you guys imagine this from
Speaker 3: the beginning? I just can't see it, Like when I'm
Speaker 3: in my space, I can't see something different. And so
Speaker 3: I love what you're describing about a mood board, but
Speaker 3: I'm also curious how you feel about if you've seen
Speaker 3: it be helpful for yourself or others to even utilize
Speaker 3: like AI tools of like uploading pictures of your space
Speaker 3: and being able to like put that color cabinet over
Speaker 3: top to like help the people who visually they don't
Speaker 3: totally know they typically just kind of make decisions as
Speaker 3: they're going.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And in fact, that's such a good point too.
Speaker 4: You're talking about your husband, because I think mood boards
Speaker 4: are the exact way to explain your project ahead of
Speaker 4: time to your husband who cannot read your mind. And
Speaker 4: so I find that AI doesn't help a ton. I
Speaker 4: think my best advice is usually to go to Pinterest
Speaker 4: and to look for keywords that you like classic kitchen,
Speaker 4: timeless kitchen, Nancy Meyer's kitchen, and then you're going to
Speaker 4: save all of those things to a board, right, And
Speaker 4: then you go through and you look at your pens,
Speaker 4: and then you have to think for yourself, what do
Speaker 4: these have in common? What common themes am I seeing
Speaker 4: throughout here? I'm actually seeing that all of these cabinets
Speaker 4: are creamy. Okay, if I like creamy cabinets, That's what
Speaker 4: I'm drawn to in each of these things. What pairs
Speaker 4: well with creamy cabinets? Maybe I want to do a
Speaker 4: island that's a wood tone? Okay, do any of these pictures?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Actually, look, a lot of these islands have a wood tone.
Speaker 4: Is it a dark wood tone or a light wood tone?
Speaker 4: And you can kind of see Pinterest is so good
Speaker 4: about showing you things that go together well. And so
Speaker 4: once you can kind of start seeing the common thread
Speaker 4: through all of the things that your eye is drawn to,
Speaker 4: then you can kind of bring them into a mood board. So,
Speaker 4: for example, Canva, you can like remove the background, so
Speaker 4: you can take a picture from Pinterest with cream cabinets,
Speaker 4: remove everything except the cream cabinets, and then stick it
Speaker 4: on your mood board. And then you can go find
Speaker 4: a backsplash you like, stick it on there, remove everything
Speaker 4: else from that picture, and then you can kind of
Speaker 4: see the finished what the finished look will look like.
Speaker 4: And it also helps so much when you try to
Speaker 4: tell your husband, so I want to build this like
Speaker 4: rock on the side of the refrigerator and it's going
Speaker 4: to hold cutting boards, and he's like, what on earth
Speaker 4: are you talking about? But then you can show him
Speaker 4: the mood board and be like, do you see how
Speaker 4: this person had it? Theirs is white, but I'm going
Speaker 4: to do mine in green because it's going to match
Speaker 4: the cabinets kind of thing. So I think I think
Speaker 4: just really utilizing Pinterest and then utilizing making your own
Speaker 4: mood board is really the way to visualize what the
Speaker 4: project will be before you start.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's such a good tip. And I
Speaker 1: think where AI could be useful is that once you've
Speaker 1: found that mood board and you're trying to find a
Speaker 1: similar thing or even identical, uploading that and being like,
Speaker 1: hey find this where I can buy this online?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think also AI would is great for like
Speaker 4: adding a couple more things. It's not really good at
Speaker 4: like generating the whole project. But I think if you
Speaker 4: could say, hey, I want cream cabinets, and I want
Speaker 4: a colored backsplash, and I want a wood tone island.
Speaker 4: What else am I missing? Then AI could totally be like,
Speaker 4: you know what you need? You need a statement island
Speaker 4: lights over your island. And you'd be like, oh, I
Speaker 4: do need island lights. You're right, I wonder what color
Speaker 4: I should do? And then it would kind of lead
Speaker 4: you on your next tangent. So I think if you
Speaker 4: could feed in or you could also say to AI, hey,
Speaker 4: I have a living room and it's dark blue, my
Speaker 4: laundry room is like a cream What color would a
Speaker 4: kitchen go with this? So I think the more that
Speaker 4: you can feed AI, the more the better it will
Speaker 4: give you a.
Speaker 1: Response yes, okay, and then what is that thing people
Speaker 1: shouldn't be skimping on.
Speaker 4: Oh man, see I I okay, see. So I've done
Speaker 4: a couple of bathroom remodels as well, and a couple
Speaker 4: of regrets I have is so bathrooms sometimes you have
Speaker 4: to take it to the studs, right, If you're going
Speaker 4: to be taking something to the studs, I do think
Speaker 4: it's worth to splurge on things that you will love.
Speaker 4: I wish I had added that radiant heating under the
Speaker 4: floor of our bathroom because our bathroom is like on
Speaker 4: the side of the house and it gets the coldest.
Speaker 4: So I should have spent the extra I don't know,
Speaker 4: five hundred one thousand dollars to add radiant floor heating.
Speaker 4: So I think things like that, if you're going to
Speaker 4: be destroying a space anyways, is it worth the extra
Speaker 4: ten percent to make it a space you truly truly love.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So it sounds like it's going to be individualized
Speaker 3: for each person on like what's the luxury item that
Speaker 3: you really think is going to like elevate the way
Speaker 3: you're going to use the space?
Speaker 4: And yes, And I think figuring out what that luxury
Speaker 4: item is to you a lot For me, A lot
Speaker 4: of it is functionality, like I don't want cold feet,
Speaker 4: but like so I'll skimp in other areas to be
Speaker 4: able to splurge on. So, if you want marble countertops,
Speaker 4: great lovely marble countertops, are there ways that you can
Speaker 4: save if you don't care about what the backsplash is
Speaker 4: pure marble or if it's ceramic, you could save in
Speaker 4: other ways and then splurge on the items that you
Speaker 4: truly do love.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it sounds a lot like how we
Speaker 3: approach meal planning and creating our spending plan. Like we're
Speaker 3: not going to know. We're not going to get to
Speaker 3: where we're going if we don't know where we want
Speaker 3: to go. So having some of these ideas ahead of time,
Speaker 3: creating the mood board, knowing having a really good vision.
Speaker 3: Not to say that there's not going to be curveballs
Speaker 3: that happen in the process, but it can certainly help
Speaker 3: when you've got the end goal in mind and for
Speaker 3: you when it comes to kitchen remodels specifically, curious what
Speaker 3: your perspective is on the places where you can get
Speaker 3: the most bang for the least buck.
Speaker 4: Yes, I've done five budget kitchen remodels in the past
Speaker 4: four years because I love making over kitchens because it
Speaker 4: does have such an impact because we are in our
Speaker 4: kitchens all day every day, and we see it all
Speaker 4: day every day, and the functionality of a kitchen is
Speaker 4: so important. So the biggest bangs for your buck, I
Speaker 4: love the power of painting. I think painting does not
Speaker 4: get enough credit because simply changing the color of your
Speaker 4: cabinets or changing the color of your walls can have
Speaker 4: such a huge impact on how you feel about a space.
Speaker 4: And so I definitely think if you are staring at
Speaker 4: your wood cabinets and you have hated those wood cabinets
Speaker 4: since you moved in, you need to paint them. Like
Speaker 4: paint is such a quick, easy win that makes such
Speaker 4: a difference, and it also it'll probably snowball. So once
Speaker 4: you paint your kitchen cabinets, then you're gonna be looking
Speaker 4: at and you'll be like, you know what, that backsplash
Speaker 4: has got to go. It's time for a new one.
Speaker 4: And because then you get to like make it your
Speaker 4: own in kind of stages. So painting is definitely the
Speaker 4: biggest But I also think that not enough people get
Speaker 4: scratch and dent appliances. We saved hundreds and hundreds by
Speaker 4: when we moved into our house, it was a nineteen
Speaker 4: eighties house that had never had original appliances, so they
Speaker 4: were all all dead. So we had to get a
Speaker 4: fridge and a stove and a dishwasher and washing machines.
Speaker 4: So we went to the scratch and dent place. Because
Speaker 4: I had little kids, I knew they were going to
Speaker 4: scratch them soon anyways, so I was like, great, So
Speaker 4: we went to the scratching dent place for the refrigerator
Speaker 4: and for the stove and such, and so I was
Speaker 4: able to get the fancier refrigerator right like the French
Speaker 4: door with the water on the front, but at a
Speaker 4: less price because it had some scratches on the side
Speaker 4: that you can't even see. The stove handle that pulls,
Speaker 4: you know, the oven open. It had a debt in
Speaker 4: the middle that you can't see when you hang a
Speaker 4: towel on this, you know, like when you hang a
Speaker 4: little handtwel on it, you can't see it. So anyways,
Speaker 4: I would totally advise, like, you can go to a
Speaker 4: scratch in dent place and they have the nice name
Speaker 4: brand stuff that might just have a scratch on the
Speaker 4: side that you won't even see, so that's my advice.
Speaker 3: I agree, that's where we got all of our appliances
Speaker 3: from and saved a ton of money, especially if you
Speaker 3: need kind of all new appliances as well. And even
Speaker 3: as you're mentioning with the pool for the oven, those
Speaker 3: are the types of things that are easily replaceable. You
Speaker 3: can search for parts and you know, maybe get those
Speaker 3: brand new. But if it allows you to save one
Speaker 3: thousand dollars on the appliance itself, then worth it.
Speaker 4: That is so true. Actually looked up how much it
Speaker 4: was cost to replace the poll and it was like
Speaker 4: fifty dollars And I didn't care fifty dollars worth, but
Speaker 4: I could, like, if I want to in the future,
Speaker 4: I can go buy the fifty dollars handle and replace it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to know all about painting cabinets because
Speaker 1: I've heard horror stories of people painting cabinets and the
Speaker 1: paint chips, it peels. Cabinets are so utilized in a
Speaker 1: space they need to be durable. So what do we do?
Speaker 1: What do we look for and what do we not do?
Speaker 1: How do we paint cabinets?
Speaker 4: Well, I say, do not chalk paint them. That was
Speaker 4: a huge trend for a while people just slap in
Speaker 4: chalk paint on stuff. I think it works if you
Speaker 4: have kind of more rustic feel. So if you have
Speaker 4: like a rustic kind of farmhouse and you like the
Speaker 4: chippy look, go for it absolutely. But if you want
Speaker 4: a modern repainted kitchen, I do not advise chalk paint.
Speaker 4: But all of these cab paint companies have developed really
Speaker 4: good cabinet paints now. Benjamin Moore Advance is the one
Speaker 4: I usually use. Bayer also has a cabinet and trim
Speaker 4: paint that's great. Here's the thing. Cabinets require more steps
Speaker 4: than just painting the wall, and so it will take
Speaker 4: you longer, but it's going to be worth it. So
Speaker 4: I tell all of my people who ask about painting cabinets,
Speaker 4: I say, you're going to have to do some prep.
Speaker 4: But the prep is what makes the finished product look amazing.
Speaker 4: So I do advise scuff sanding, which is like just
Speaker 4: getting the sanding block and running it over the surface.
Speaker 4: I advise priming with an oil based primer because all
Speaker 4: of these cabinets, you don't even know if they're solid wood.
Speaker 4: Some of them are like pine, and the pine tannins
Speaker 4: can sink through finish culvers of paint, and you don't
Speaker 4: want that happening, so you have to prime with an
Speaker 4: oil based primer, and then you do two coats of
Speaker 4: either Benjamin Moore Advance or the bare cabinet and trim paint,
Speaker 4: and then you don't have to top coat it because
Speaker 4: both of those have a built in top coat. So
Speaker 4: you do have to do a couple more steps to prep,
Speaker 4: but it's not terrible once you once you get started,
Speaker 4: and then you're going to have a beautiful pain in
Speaker 4: the kitchen that's going to last for years and years
Speaker 4: and years, and you're going to enjoy it for years
Speaker 4: and years and years.
Speaker 3: I will add taking all of the doors off and
Speaker 3: obviously the cabinet the drawer fronts off and labeling them before,
Speaker 3: like having a way of labeling them, because I also
Speaker 3: have alreadydone tons of kitchens and painted cabinets and every
Speaker 3: single one of them, and that was one of the
Speaker 3: things I learned the hard way on one of the
Speaker 3: first three models is that not every cabinet is the same,
Speaker 3: and the way the yeah and the ways that sometimes
Speaker 3: it's like chiseled out for the hardware is very specific
Speaker 3: and it needs to go back into that place. So
Speaker 3: if you're pulling them down, which I would recommend, like
Speaker 3: do it the right way, don't get paint all over
Speaker 3: the hardware. And then having if you do have a
Speaker 3: place to be able to lay out all of the cabinets,
Speaker 3: that can really help. If it's in like a dust
Speaker 3: free area even better. So those of my friends in
Speaker 3: the north who have basements, perfect place to be able
Speaker 3: to paint all of these cabinets. But labeling it this
Speaker 3: is my extra tip.
Speaker 1: And before you paint if you're doing different cabinet like poles,
Speaker 1: which is why the board is so important. Yeah, before
Speaker 1: you get started. Then if you're going from like one
Speaker 1: to two or from two to one, like screw wood filler,
Speaker 1: like before you paint, so that you don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about that. Yeah, that is a big thing I've used.
Speaker 3: I'd be curious what tool you use, delancey, but like
Speaker 3: a foam roller too, I found to be really helpful
Speaker 3: with painting cabinet so that you get that really sleek,
Speaker 3: kind of brushless finish on it. So sometimes the tools
Speaker 3: you use make a difference as well.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what kind of so true do you use?
Speaker 1: I like to.
Speaker 4: I like to roll the cabinet bases. Actually, you have
Speaker 4: found a quarter inch soft nap works better than a
Speaker 4: pham roller for me with the kind of paints that
Speaker 4: I usually use. So I like the quarter inch soft
Speaker 4: naps to roll, and obviously the brush for like the
Speaker 4: tiny corner, and then the cabinet doors since you're gonna
Speaker 4: take them off anyways, I actually advise spraying them. There's
Speaker 4: like a sixty dollars sprayer on Amazon that's worth its
Speaker 4: weight in gold. I bought it four years ago and
Speaker 4: then my sister stole it and I bought the exact
Speaker 4: same one again because it's just a really good sprayer.
Speaker 4: So I would advise spend the sixty dollars and then
Speaker 4: you can spray all the cabinet doors. Uh. And that's
Speaker 4: going to give you a really brushless look.
Speaker 1: Oh, especially if you have any of those like fancy
Speaker 1: whatever on the wood cabinets. They're all like, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what it's called, but you can't see
Speaker 1: me because I'm doing this weight with my hands.
Speaker 3: But that's like phil agree or whatever.
Speaker 1: They free.
Speaker 4: You're like, yeah, just super fancy, yeah exactly, Like you
Speaker 4: could probably get away with just rolling it. But yeah,
Speaker 4: some of especially the ones from the eighties and nineties,
Speaker 4: they were a little bit more elaborate, So those it's
Speaker 4: so much easier to spray.
Speaker 3: I did also, and this was maybe a bit of
Speaker 3: a regret now painted already painted cabinets, so I stripped
Speaker 3: the paint oho of the cabin To talk about prep work.
Speaker 3: If you've already got painted cabinets and they weren't painted well,
Speaker 3: I mean, and you don't want to spend the money
Speaker 3: on paying somebody like it is worth it, but goodness,
Speaker 3: that took a lot of time. But that is something
Speaker 3: to think about too, Like if the cabinets were painted previously,
Speaker 3: and it's a little bit shoddy work, that's a consideration,
Speaker 3: I think, and whether or not you're going to repaint
Speaker 3: them or you're going to strip them. So I think
Speaker 3: we're primarily talking about painting when they've not been painted before.
Speaker 4: Right, if they were like original, of course you could
Speaker 4: also if you had that kind of thing where like
Speaker 4: someone did a terrible job last time. There's also you
Speaker 4: could also just get new doors. If your frames are
Speaker 4: still secure and strong and like they're going great, you
Speaker 4: can just buy new doors. You can go to home
Speaker 4: depot online and like just put in your measurements. I
Speaker 4: think it's maybe eighty ninety dollars a door, which I
Speaker 4: mean adds up obviously if you have a huge kitchen,
Speaker 4: but it would give you a whole new look, and
Speaker 4: that would be a great way to go from. Like
Speaker 4: if your other doors were very fancy and you wanted
Speaker 4: a more shaker look, that would be a super quick win.
Speaker 4: And then I think those you can get them painted
Speaker 4: or they can come primed and then you can paint
Speaker 4: them to the color you want.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that middle of the road option for people. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's not a full gut, but is absolutely a visual upgrade.
Speaker 4: And I think that's where people get stuck so often
Speaker 4: is we see these shows on TV where people gut
Speaker 4: their kitchen and then they spend one hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 4: to rebuild it. But that's not most people's life. Most
Speaker 4: people don't want to live through a renovation like that.
Speaker 4: They don't want to kitch like cook in the dining
Speaker 4: room for the next four months of their life. Like,
Speaker 4: I think, we want, what can I do that's that
Speaker 4: middle of the ground, What can I do to prove
Speaker 4: the space that I'm living in right now that I
Speaker 4: can still live through that's not going to be too
Speaker 4: much chaos, but that I'll love in the end. That
Speaker 4: maybe is not going to be one hundred thousand dollars worth,
Speaker 4: but that still is adding value to your home.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it is really appealing too to be
Speaker 3: able to say I can do this myself. Because when
Speaker 3: we can cut the labor costs, I mean that's a
Speaker 3: good majority of what a lot of these renovations cost.
Speaker 3: So when we can find the types of things we
Speaker 3: can do that we are capable of doing, then even better.
Speaker 3: So speaking of some of those things, I'd be curious
Speaker 3: what you've seen that people can actually diy where they
Speaker 3: wouldn't have thought that they could. We've kind of talked
Speaker 3: about cabinets. Is there anything else that you've seen you
Speaker 3: actually really could make a big difference in your kitchen
Speaker 3: with these things that your average person can absolutely implement on.
Speaker 4: I like encouraging women to learn how to tile, So
Speaker 4: tiling is one of my favorite ways to data space.
Speaker 4: I have tile in my launchy room and my kitchen
Speaker 4: and obviously bathrooms, but also in my dining room as
Speaker 4: an accent wall. I love the power of tile, and
Speaker 4: people think it's hard until I show them the videos
Speaker 4: of my three year old daughter tiling, and then they're like, oh, huh, okay,
Speaker 4: maybe if your three year old can tile, then I
Speaker 4: could learn how to do this. And so I think
Speaker 4: learning how to tile is such a fun skill because
Speaker 4: it's one of those that not everybody knows, like, oh,
Speaker 4: most people are like, oh, I'm sure I could paint
Speaker 4: a wall, so I could probably figure out how to
Speaker 4: paint cabinets, But learning to tile is such a fun
Speaker 4: skill that, like, people come over to my house and
Speaker 4: my kids can say, oh, yeah, I tiled that are
Speaker 4: a pantry, Like it's just such an interesting thing. So
Speaker 4: and I think people think that tiling is scary as
Speaker 4: you have to use a wet saw, but it's actually
Speaker 4: one of the safest tools because you can touch the
Speaker 4: blade with your hand and it doesn't cut you, and
Speaker 4: because it's a wet saw and it just grinds the tile.
Speaker 4: And so I think learning skills like that are so
Speaker 4: fun and can add such an impact to a space
Speaker 4: and you get to have the fun like I learned
Speaker 4: a new skill that how many people on the planet
Speaker 4: know how to tile? A backsplash I do.
Speaker 1: Now you know, where do you find your tile like
Speaker 1: affordably and how do you go about like deciding backsplas.
Speaker 4: That's a good point because tiles can range from a
Speaker 4: dollar a square foot to fifty dollars a square foot, right,
Speaker 4: so you could you could you could go either way.
Speaker 4: I usually I love Florida Core, I love home Depot
Speaker 4: for tile, I like the tile shop all of those.
Speaker 4: I do prefer to see my tile in person, so
Speaker 4: I have not had great luck of just like seeing
Speaker 4: one online. I like to see it in person. So
Speaker 4: if you have a store near you, the tile shop,
Speaker 4: Floridacre or home Depot, I like to go to those
Speaker 4: and see what options they have, and then you can
Speaker 4: also you could do your mood board in person. Right
Speaker 4: if you have your paint chip of what color your
Speaker 4: cabinets are going to be, and you have your tile
Speaker 4: of what you're thinking about, and then you go lay
Speaker 4: it on in a piece of granite that's kind of
Speaker 4: close to your countertops, then you can kind of make
Speaker 4: your mood board in person.
Speaker 1: Fun fact, we got our backsplash on Facebook Marketplace. We
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot. We had like just one portion
Speaker 1: of the wall for the backsplash. Not a lot, so
Speaker 1: we could have gone with something you know, new, wouldn't
Speaker 1: have been that expensive, but because it was so little,
Speaker 1: like people will sell leftovers from their jobs and it's
Speaker 1: not a high quantity, but I think we got two
Speaker 1: or three boxes and that's all we needed. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a fun like textured Like if you're far away
Speaker 1: from it, it just looks like an oversized white subway tile,
Speaker 1: but when you get close to it, you can see
Speaker 1: each different tile has a different texture. And that was
Speaker 1: what I was looking for, Like I wanted textured tile,
Speaker 1: like not crazy color, but I wanted like a really
Speaker 1: unique like texture.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: There's also a lot of places that will have like
Speaker 3: renovation stores like Restore. Yeah, like recarch community. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: your Humanity has a place called Restore usually most most
Speaker 3: states are going to have that. So even being able
Speaker 3: to go and and check there first is kind of
Speaker 3: the thing. It's not as if every time you're going
Speaker 3: to find something that it fits into your mood board
Speaker 3: or is the right quantity of things, But it's it's
Speaker 3: surprising what can be found at places like that, even
Speaker 3: sometimes sinks and faucets and different lighting fixtures, so we.
Speaker 1: We love all of the hat And again I'll go
Speaker 1: back to your point on the mood board. It's make
Speaker 1: sure you're buying in alignment with that and not just
Speaker 1: because you can get it secondhand or a deal, because
Speaker 1: that's how you waste money. You get a de something,
Speaker 1: you get something on sale or secondhand, and.
Speaker 4: Then you have to work around it whether you love
Speaker 4: it or.
Speaker 1: Not, and then you don't know or you just have
Speaker 1: that stuff and you buy the new stuff anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you've wasted the money on the sale stuff.
Speaker 3: Speaking of wasted money, I'm curious what you've seen are
Speaker 3: some of the common mistakes people make that end up
Speaker 3: costing them more in the long run, Like maybe things
Speaker 3: that they thought would have been a good idea but
Speaker 3: actually aren't. Like where are we seeing some of the
Speaker 3: poor decision making with kitchen renos.
Speaker 4: The good news is is that I haven't found many
Speaker 4: people who've regretted their kitchen renouts, like I haven't found
Speaker 4: many people who've done it themselves. I've talked to a
Speaker 4: lot of people who have hired out a kitchen reno,
Speaker 4: and they regret different aspects. But the people that I
Speaker 4: talk to the millions of women that have done their
Speaker 4: own kitchen reno, they don't regret pieces of it because
Speaker 4: I think when you're do at yourself, you're kind of
Speaker 4: also on a different timeline. You're not bound by these
Speaker 4: contractors and like, I need a tile picked by tomorrow,
Speaker 4: so you get to maybe take it slower or just
Speaker 4: put more time into thinking about each step. And then
Speaker 4: I think when you get to the end, you are
Speaker 4: so proud that you did it yourself that it kind
Speaker 4: of covers over any little regrets. I mean, there are
Speaker 4: some things like my first tiling jobs were not as
Speaker 4: good as my most recent tiling jobs, but that's that's life,
Speaker 4: you know, Like, of course, the first time you do something,
Speaker 4: it's not going to be perfect, but I think it's
Speaker 4: still a good enough upgrade that your brain doesn't dwell.
Speaker 4: It's kind of like childbirth. You don't remember the terrible parts.
Speaker 4: You just remember the like fabulous, sweet baby you're now holding.
Speaker 4: And so I think sometimes we scare ourselves of like, oh,
Speaker 4: I can't start this because I'll get in and it'll
Speaker 4: be terrible and what if I mess it up? But ever,
Speaker 4: everything is figure outable, and once you get in there,
Speaker 4: you will find a solution to it. It might take
Speaker 4: a little bit longer, or you might have to go
Speaker 4: back to the go back to home depot for the
Speaker 4: sixth time, but it's all figure outable, And so I
Speaker 4: haven't talked to many people who regret things or say, oh, man,
Speaker 4: that reno was a complete waste of money, because there's
Speaker 4: always something to learn or to skill to grow, and
Speaker 4: it all just I think each step makes your house better,
Speaker 4: it makes you better.
Speaker 3: I think that that's the biggest barrier for people is
Speaker 3: kind of assuming like oh, I don't know how to
Speaker 3: do that. It's like, well, no one knew how to
Speaker 3: do that before they learned, Like you're saying, right, everything
Speaker 3: is learnable and skills are buildable now whether or not
Speaker 3: you have the time to want to learn or build
Speaker 3: that skill. But if you want a kitchen reno for inexpensive,
Speaker 3: like it is possible to learn how to change how
Speaker 3: to sink it is, the paint cabinets and install your
Speaker 3: own new backsplash, maybe even do some under cabinet lighting.
Speaker 1: And it's all on YouTube.
Speaker 4: It's literally all on YouTube everything you could ever want
Speaker 4: to know by people who are electricians, by people who
Speaker 4: are plumbers, right. Gone are the days where you had
Speaker 4: to have an apprentice to learn how to, you know,
Speaker 4: learn how to be a tiler. You can go and
Speaker 4: learn on YouTube. But the thing is so YouTube has
Speaker 4: access to all of the tutorials you could ever want,
Speaker 4: so you can you can bring in information all day long,
Speaker 4: but the thing that makes you better is doing it
Speaker 4: so you could. You can get stuck sometimes in the
Speaker 4: watching stage of watching other people make over their kitchen cabinets,
Speaker 4: and I'm just going to watch them. Well, maybe this
Speaker 4: tutorial will tell me how to do it. Well, maybe
Speaker 4: this tutorial has even better tips. But the thing that
Speaker 4: will actually get your cabinets painted is you grabbing a
Speaker 4: paintbrush and starting, and then you working through any things
Speaker 4: you come up with. Okay, well now I'm painting and
Speaker 4: it looks like this paint is chipping? What am I
Speaker 4: doing wrong? And then troubleshooting from there. That a type
Speaker 4: of approach is so much better than I'm just going
Speaker 4: to take in information for months and months and months
Speaker 4: and months instead of starting, because once you start, then
Speaker 4: you can problem solve as you go, instead of thinking
Speaker 4: I need every bit of information before I even start.
Speaker 4: That's not real life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. That's the biggest mistake people make
Speaker 3: is just not starting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's putting it off.
Speaker 3: There's one other category of a kitchen runner that we've
Speaker 3: not covered yet, and that is countertops, and this is
Speaker 3: it can be an expensive one. What would you say
Speaker 3: for somebody who's like, Okay, I think I can tackle
Speaker 3: all of these things, but what I really hate is
Speaker 3: my countertops. What can be done?
Speaker 1: Eighties lambin It chipping countertops.
Speaker 4: Yes, oh my goodness. All of my houses have had
Speaker 4: eighties lamin and kitchen auto tops. So I think you
Speaker 4: get to decide. This is one of those like personal
Speaker 4: decision things. I am fine with lamb At countertops. So
Speaker 4: when I redid my kitchen, I got new lambin At
Speaker 4: countertops because I had little kids and who were gonna
Speaker 4: spill red kool aid, and I am not a marble
Speaker 4: kind of person, like my kids would ruin it right away.
Speaker 4: I didn't want the upkeep like, I just didn't, so
Speaker 4: I got new laminate countertops. That the trick is is
Speaker 4: not to get the included backsplash. The trick is to
Speaker 4: just get the flat part and then you do a
Speaker 4: tile backsplash so it looks like marble or quartz or whatever,
Speaker 4: and people who've comment and be like, oh, you got me,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, it's just laminate and it cost three
Speaker 4: hundred dollars. But if you wanted to splurge on counters
Speaker 4: I would hire those out. I would do all the
Speaker 4: stuff you can do yourself. Painting the cabinets. If they're
Speaker 4: like a good strong quality and they just need a
Speaker 4: fresh en up, you paint them. You add the knobs,
Speaker 4: and you add under cabinet lightings, and then you splurge
Speaker 4: on getting If you want Courtz countertops, go get Kurtz countertops.
Speaker 4: But I would get those professionally done because they're going
Speaker 4: to come in and they're going to measure and they're
Speaker 4: going to cut out for the sink and all that
Speaker 4: kind of stuff. So I would that would be one
Speaker 4: of the things that I would splurge on. If it
Speaker 4: mattered to me that I had really nice countertops, I
Speaker 4: would splurge on hiring that out.
Speaker 3: We've also had success on getting remnants from places like
Speaker 3: we've hired out countertops, but there's been times where the
Speaker 3: amount of countertop we need is not that large, and
Speaker 3: so we're able to shop their remnants. Section so this
Speaker 3: would be leftovers from other jobs that were done for
Speaker 3: a fraction of the cost. Again, you're not guaranteed that
Speaker 3: it's got to be all possible that they would have
Speaker 3: the piece that you need.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, how do you feel about butcher block?
Speaker 4: I love butcher block. I have butcher block in my pantry.
Speaker 4: It's not like I don't know if I would cut
Speaker 4: on it, like I wouldn't use it as butcher block.
Speaker 4: I think it, you know, because it's what right. So
Speaker 4: like and have my children spilt kool aid on my
Speaker 4: butcher block countertop in the pantry? Yes, yes they have.
Speaker 4: But the nice thing about butcher block is you just
Speaker 4: sand it off and then reseal it. You seal it
Speaker 4: with like a butcher block oil. So I think it's
Speaker 4: a great option. A lot of people get stressed out
Speaker 4: and they're like, no, don't do it. It's just go
Speaker 4: for it. If you want butcher block countertops, go for it, Like,
Speaker 4: seal them with some oil, and like, will you ever
Speaker 4: have to reseal them? Yeah, you'll probably have to reseal
Speaker 4: them once a year. Is that the end of the world? No, Like,
Speaker 4: I think people overthink things so much and they get
Speaker 4: it so much in their head of like, oh, this
Speaker 4: is the only way to do it when there's a
Speaker 4: zillion different ways to make over your kitchen to a
Speaker 4: kitchen that you love, and there's I think butcher block
Speaker 4: is a great, budget friendly option that looks great because
Speaker 4: it's real wood.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think so often we are renovating with resale
Speaker 1: in mind, and to an extent, that is a good
Speaker 1: thing if you are living in your house to resell it,
Speaker 1: Like we just renovated a house to resell it, so
Speaker 1: we renovated it for resale. If you are in your
Speaker 1: forever home, then you don't have to think about the
Speaker 1: next buyers. You just think about you, baby girl.
Speaker 4: And I really think that even because like, yeah, why
Speaker 4: are you designing for some potential future buyer who you
Speaker 4: have no idea what this person wants. So I think,
Speaker 4: if you're going to be in your home for the
Speaker 4: next three years, you do it how you want it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought of one more thing, and this is the
Speaker 1: last thing. I promise, flooring. If somebody wants to change
Speaker 1: out the flooring in their kitchen, what's your go to
Speaker 1: and what.
Speaker 4: Do you mean my going is always? My go to
Speaker 4: is always Lambin at floors or not lamin like LVP
Speaker 4: Luxury vinyl plank, just because they're easy to install, beginner friendly.
Speaker 4: They can go over a subfloor, they can go over tile,
Speaker 4: they can go over if you have like a sixties
Speaker 4: kitchen with that linoleum, it can go over linoleum. I
Speaker 4: think that it's such an EA install. You can do
Speaker 4: it in a day, and it makes a huge impact,
Speaker 4: and it wipes up so easily, and they're all waterproof,
Speaker 4: so and if you ever had to rip it out,
Speaker 4: you rip it out in a day and replace it
Speaker 4: with something else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we use. Do you have a preference
Speaker 1: on your LVP or like a thickness or a brand
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 4: I do say, don't get the cheapest, Like you don't
Speaker 4: have to get the most expensive that's like ten dollars
Speaker 4: a square foot, but like, don't get the one dollar,
Speaker 4: get get the middle of the road.
Speaker 1: I think we went with the ten millimeter thickness and
Speaker 1: we did the three milimeter padding underneath. So those are
Speaker 1: like they're nice. I would say those those are.
Speaker 4: If you're on a slab, you do have to have
Speaker 4: like the underlayment. Yeah, we're on waterproofing something. Yeah, so
Speaker 4: you do need to make sure and that's one of
Speaker 4: those things that like, yes, that's the kind of thing
Speaker 4: that you want to make sure you're doing the steps
Speaker 4: in the right order. So that is great. Where like
Speaker 4: you need to go to YouTube, you need to watch
Speaker 4: somebody install luxury vinyl plank on a slab, so you
Speaker 4: know the steps to take so you don't have to
Speaker 4: rip up your stuff and then put down the underlayment.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, I have one more question too. How much
Speaker 3: do you think so if someone's like, Okay, I'm feeling inspired,
Speaker 3: I might be able to do my own kitchen myself,
Speaker 3: what should they anticipate as far as tool costs because
Speaker 3: your average person might not have all of the things
Speaker 3: to be able.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's rental tools, yes, but like, yeah, total costs,
Speaker 1: that's a good one.
Speaker 4: Tools you will need, I mean yeah, it depends on
Speaker 4: how like if you're just painting your cabinets by the
Speaker 4: sixty dollars spray er and a couple of rollers, right,
Speaker 4: if you're building something to add to it, like you will,
Speaker 4: or if you're if you have to cut down lambin
Speaker 4: at countertops yourself, you will need some tools. But it's
Speaker 4: not going to be terrible. I mean five hundred dollars
Speaker 4: maybe of tools. It's not like you need some giant
Speaker 4: woodworking shop. You probably you probably need less than five
Speaker 4: a drill of mitrosol, a circuit saw, a brad nailor,
Speaker 4: and a sander. Like if you had those five you'd
Speaker 4: be fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And those there are things that you could always
Speaker 1: find used on Facebook marketplace. You always resell them if
Speaker 1: you need to buy them new. And it's just good
Speaker 1: to have a power drill always. Man, you never you
Speaker 1: never have to get carpal tunnel in your wrist again.
Speaker 3: But for some of these things, like the wet saw,
Speaker 3: you could also rent from like home depot or see
Speaker 3: if you can borrow it from a friend or there
Speaker 3: are also tool libraries, yes, in different cities.
Speaker 4: Cities have them, yes.
Speaker 3: Yes, in Saint Pete we have one. You can rent
Speaker 3: out tools.
Speaker 1: Oh that's amazing, they're so Surely there is surely a
Speaker 1: dude somewhere that you can rent all borrow all these
Speaker 1: tools because he bought them all and he usual and
Speaker 1: he's he.
Speaker 3: Might be able to rent the dude too, you know, dune.
Speaker 1: But you could definitely borrow his tools because he has
Speaker 1: them because they are his trophies. And I know this
Speaker 1: because I live with this. Dude.
Speaker 3: Do you know what's my trophy? And I will live
Speaker 3: with every single day?
Speaker 1: With the week your resell the of the week.
Speaker 5: That's right, it's time for the best minute of your
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Speaker 5: is Williams. Maybe you've paid off your mortgage. Maybe your
Speaker 5: car died and you're happy to not have to pay
Speaker 5: that bill anymore. That bills Buffalo bills, Bill Clinton, this
Speaker 5: is the bill of the week.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I just heard an echo in my headphones.
Speaker 1: What a treat, all right, Delancey. Every week we invite
Speaker 1: our listeners and our guests to share with us their
Speaker 1: bill for the week, and we look forward to hearing you.
Speaker 4: Oh man. Okay, so my bill of the week has
Speaker 4: to be shout out to the Bill who is on
Speaker 4: my Facebook group, who likes to every time I post something,
Speaker 4: he likes to tell me all the things I did wrong,
Speaker 4: and he likes to be the guy that's like, actually
Speaker 4: it's not a crow bar. It's actually called a pride bar.
Speaker 4: But shout out to Bill, because for every one Bill,
Speaker 4: I have ten katies who are like ignore him. He's
Speaker 4: being ridiculous. This is what I needed to see. So
Speaker 4: shut up, Bill, because this is amazing.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, he is in there purely demand's blain.
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. Facebook is a cesspool of man's blaining.
Speaker 3: I mean, anytime that you're getting into something traditionally may
Speaker 3: you're gonna have them want to come and tell you
Speaker 3: how you're doing it.
Speaker 1: He has all of his trophies, his tools around that
Speaker 1: he probably doesn't use, but they are trophies.
Speaker 4: And he's too proud that he knows how to do it.
Speaker 4: But the fact that now women are learning how to
Speaker 4: do it it makes him feel less special.
Speaker 1: And I don't because you're using the tools more than
Speaker 1: he is.
Speaker 4: And but I'm not doing it for you, Bill, I'm
Speaker 4: doing it for Katie.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Usually when we get a person named Bill, Bill is
Speaker 3: usually the salt of the earth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this time around, Bill, he's the salt in myle.
Speaker 3: You gotta just calm down. You need to calm down, Bill,
Speaker 3: And hats off to you Delancy for still doing it
Speaker 3: because you know that it's just going to bring a
Speaker 3: ton of haters.
Speaker 1: Or just for not blocking him.
Speaker 3: How he hime out of the group It's true.
Speaker 4: I only block them if they get super rude. But
Speaker 4: the thing is this that, like I think sadly women
Speaker 4: are just used to it, Like we realize that when
Speaker 4: we put something out there that there will be haters.
Speaker 4: But the good news is that, like there's so many
Speaker 4: women who are loving it that it way makes up
Speaker 4: for all the haters.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so true. All right, well that's fun. Glad you're
Speaker 3: doing it for Katie. If you all listening and have
Speaker 3: a bill that you want to submit, if it has
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Speaker 1: All right. It's that time of the episode where we
Speaker 1: all answer a very vulnerable question and we always have
Speaker 1: our guests go first.
Speaker 3: Oh, all right, super vulnerable.
Speaker 1: Okay, what's a small appliance or gadget you use in
Speaker 1: your kitchen that you think is very under rated that people.
Speaker 4: Are like, uh, why do you have that?
Speaker 3: What a waste, and if it feels too vulnerable to answer,
Speaker 3: we can you can ask us to move on to
Speaker 3: the next question. So there's no other question, this is it?
Speaker 4: I okay, So I'm a mom, so like, obviously I
Speaker 4: have to say an air frier. But you know what
Speaker 4: I was thinking, is actually my most used random part
Speaker 4: of my kitchen. I got the stove that has the
Speaker 4: flat top surface griddle in the middle, and I use
Speaker 4: that every single day. I because you don't have to
Speaker 4: get out a pan so grilled cheese. You just throw
Speaker 4: the bread on that little griddle and then like you
Speaker 4: wash it like at night or something, but like you
Speaker 4: don't have to wash it every time. So that little
Speaker 4: griddle in the middle of my stove is my favorite,
Speaker 4: is my favorite upgrade of my whole kitchen.
Speaker 1: I love that answer, sir. I love that answer.
Speaker 3: That is I think a helpful one too, for anybody
Speaker 3: potentially shopping for a range of what what kind do
Speaker 3: I even want? How will it serve me to kind
Speaker 3: of think about the types of things you enjoy cooking
Speaker 3: And if.
Speaker 1: You have a stove and you don't want to get
Speaker 1: another one with a griddle, they make griddles that you
Speaker 1: can put over your burners. It turns it into a griddle.
Speaker 4: Four burners like you don't you don't mean all four
Speaker 4: burners going at the same time, like never except on
Speaker 4: like Thanksgiving, So like yeah, like leave on is a griddle?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, all right for me? It's an electric can opener.
Speaker 3: Wow, I know crazy, I know I did.
Speaker 1: So Travis got this at a thrift store or somewhere
Speaker 1: and I was like, what a waste, like get a
Speaker 1: regular can opener like a rail man.
Speaker 3: And so we have used this.
Speaker 1: I mean I do. I primarily cook, and I use
Speaker 1: this all the time. And now when I do have
Speaker 1: to use a regular can opener, I'm like, oh, carble tunnel.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I never thought that I've had like arthritis or
Speaker 3: carporal tunnel until I open a can manually. It like
Speaker 3: morphs your hands and ways you're not.
Speaker 1: We have to hands.
Speaker 3: Cannot you do it.
Speaker 1: Electric can openers. We've become fragile women.
Speaker 3: It's so funny. I was laughing at this, But now
Speaker 3: to think the last time I opened a can, I
Speaker 3: was like.
Speaker 1: Why does this hurt so hot? Like I'm putting, I've
Speaker 1: got the stance and I'm over it, and it's had
Speaker 1: like an entire body movement to open a can.
Speaker 3: Wow, you're convincing me it is underrated.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, it's just a little, you know, a
Speaker 1: little electrically pleasing. Man.
Speaker 3: I love that. Okay for me, I'm gonna go with
Speaker 3: some old school, ancient ancient pieces here mortar and pestle.
Speaker 1: Where are you from the eighteen hundred?
Speaker 3: Yes, no, I'm from fourteenth ninety two. I think it's nice.
Speaker 3: First of all, out on it is partiful. I love
Speaker 3: a good mortar and pestle out. Also, it is good
Speaker 3: to like grind up herbs and spices. I don't I
Speaker 3: don't always cook with fresh herbs, but one on new
Speaker 3: mortar and pestle, and it really does elevate the dish. Garlic,
Speaker 3: and I also use well which one is the mortar,
Speaker 3: which is the pestle? The hand thing?
Speaker 1: I think that's the pestle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will tenderize my chicken with that.
Speaker 5: That.
Speaker 3: Wow, I mean I cover the chicken right. So I'm
Speaker 3: not like going raw chicken to fresh herbs when raw
Speaker 3: with it, But I can, like it's really heavy and
Speaker 3: I can bang out that chicken. So multipurpose, you know.
Speaker 3: I love form and function, and I get both.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. That is Delancey. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: coming on the show. Thank you for just like responding
Speaker 1: to my email even though you thought it was spam.
Speaker 4: I did think it was spam.
Speaker 1: Hello here, So true. I have for seven years been
Speaker 1: reaching out to guests because we very very rarely will
Speaker 1: take a guest submission. I always like to go out
Speaker 1: and find guests. But there it's hit or miss on
Speaker 1: whether I get a response because there's a lot of
Speaker 1: spam out there. So where can our listeners find the
Speaker 1: real you? Where are your socials and where can they
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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you go to more dot delancydiy dot com,
Speaker 4: you can find all about and I'm Delancy DIY on
Speaker 4: all of the socials.
Speaker 3: Perfect cool, and we'll link to that in the show notes.
Speaker 3: Thanks so much for being here with us.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 3: I am so grateful that we did not talk about
Speaker 3: painting your countertops.
Speaker 1: I we were over them.
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Speaker 3: the conversation might go. We have the ability to edit,
Speaker 3: but it didn't go there because Delancey Delancy gives the goods.
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Speaker 1: Rugal Friends is produced by Eric Sirianni.
Speaker 3: Okay Jen. Yes, what is a power tool or no
Speaker 3: even maybe just like a skill, a reno skill that
Speaker 3: you built throughout your renovations that like surprised you, that
Speaker 3: like you didn't think you would would ever do or
Speaker 3: never even knew that it would be a thing you
Speaker 3: were doing.
Speaker 1: I mean, laying flooring, putting up tile using power tools.
Speaker 3: I am not.
Speaker 1: Handy. I'm not DIY girl. I don't like DIY.
Speaker 3: I do not do that.
Speaker 1: I don't enjoy it. So I was forced into so
Speaker 1: much of this and yeah, there's skills I don't want
Speaker 1: to have that I do now not really have, but
Speaker 1: I did do them. Travis did so much. I helped
Speaker 1: him carry fencing yesterday and that was miserable. I hated that.
Speaker 1: How about you, Jill?
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, I mean, yeah, all of it. I suppose
Speaker 3: I am. I'm the I'm the cock girl. You are you?
Speaker 3: I am cock queen.
Speaker 1: I never cocked. I didn't, I didn't do any cocking.
Speaker 4: Yeah. All of the.
Speaker 3: Finish work is my responsibility, and it's a skill that
Speaker 3: I've built. Now over years, I mean, Eric and I
Speaker 3: have renovated every place we've ever lived. I actually was
Speaker 3: surprised to realize I've actually renovated as I think a
Speaker 3: few more kitchens than Delancey has.
Speaker 1: I know, you were like, why are you bringing in
Speaker 1: a renovation expert. I'm a renovation expert.
Speaker 3: I was like, you are not this kind of no, no, no,
Speaker 3: I am not, and I yeah, I don't have the
Speaker 3: platform that she has. I've not like recorded all of
Speaker 3: the renovations that we've ever done, but yeah, we've done
Speaker 3: a lot, and through that time, I've built like the
Speaker 3: finishing skills. Eric hates painting, absolutely hates it. Turns out
Speaker 3: I'm good at it, so I do get to a
Speaker 3: point where I feel so done with it. I wouldn't
Speaker 3: say that, like I love it, but I don't hate
Speaker 3: it to the same degree that he does.
Speaker 1: There are some areas in our house that I just
Speaker 1: didn't finish painting, and I know where they are and
Speaker 1: I can see them. Leave it for the next person
Speaker 1: to solve that, and that's the next families problem. Not nine.
Speaker 3: But I used a hammer drill, I think for the
Speaker 3: first time. This is a new thing for me, a
Speaker 3: new tool this past weekend. Wow, And that was both amazing,
Speaker 3: both one of my favorite experiences and exhausting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Travis bought this big. It's the size of a
Speaker 1: trash can drill. The thickness is like the size of
Speaker 1: my head. And he bought it for doing the fence.
Speaker 1: And I actually held on to that baby, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I could I could do damage with this, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to, so please let me put
Speaker 1: it down. And uh, yeah, that was one of those
Speaker 1: things he bought and he's planning to He didn't actually
Speaker 1: use it a lot, so he might return it, but
Speaker 1: he I was planning to sell it. Okay, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want any of the renovation skills, and you.
Speaker 3: Know I don't have marketing. I don't want marketing skills
Speaker 3: and I do have it, and you're forcing it on me.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but it's so more people like get the message.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be good for you.