WEBVTT - It’s a Baguette with Timothy Gibbs... (S3 E17 "What Goes Around Comes Around") 

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<v Speaker 1>Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are you

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<v Speaker 2>a Charlotte?

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<v Speaker 3>Hi?

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody, welcome to Are You a Charlotte? Today we are

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<v Speaker 2>having a really interesting conversation with Timothy Gibbs. And he

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<v Speaker 2>played the detective who comes when Carrie gets robbed on

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<v Speaker 2>the street in episode three seventeen, What Goes Around Comes Around,

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<v Speaker 2>which was written by Darren Starr directed by Alan Colter,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's a fascinating guy. So please enjoy this conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with Timothy Gibbs.

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<v Speaker 4>How's it going?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, it's going great. How about you good?

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<v Speaker 4>It's pretty good. It's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in La and it seemed like the sky was

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<v Speaker 2>going to fall last night, but it didn't, So we're okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been I've been looking at it on the news.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm over here in South Carolina and so what where?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just outside of Charleston.

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<v Speaker 4>I love Charleston. I'm from Columbia.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh really?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you know a little town called Ellery? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean not well, but yes, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where we are. We have our store and we

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<v Speaker 3>have a couple of buildings here. Wow, on this little

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<v Speaker 3>street with the one stop light.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, how adorable.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's pretty great.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so sweet. Charleston is one of the absolute best cities.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can just like zoop over to Charleston.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we love it.

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<v Speaker 3>We're there a lot, and I mean that's where you

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<v Speaker 3>go for for culture or anything because we're we're really

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<v Speaker 3>this little community.

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<v Speaker 5>It's tiny.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we have now we're up to about six

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and sixty residents.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, how amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's pretty cool. And it's an hour.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an hour from Columbia and it's an hour from Carleston.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>My kids love Charleston and they love the beach so much.

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<v Speaker 2>And when we go to see Grandma and Columbia, they're.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, are we going to the beach? We have to

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<v Speaker 4>go to the beach, And sometimes we do. Sometimes we don't.

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<v Speaker 5>How did you get from South Carolina to How did

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<v Speaker 5>that happen?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, just drive? I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I loved South Carolina. I love so many

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<v Speaker 2>things about it. But at the same time, my parents

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<v Speaker 2>had always taken me to New York to see theater

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<v Speaker 2>every summer we would go, and to me, that was

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<v Speaker 2>about the best thing that there was, right, So I

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<v Speaker 2>was just like, I've got to get out of here

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<v Speaker 2>and get up there. I've got to get to New York.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to get to New York. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>ended up wanting to go to acting school, and I

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<v Speaker 2>went to Rutgers because they had an MFA BFA program

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<v Speaker 2>and you could kind of be there but also go

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<v Speaker 2>into the city to see to see shows.

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<v Speaker 4>You were close enough to the city.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad taught at USC, the South Carolina USC, so

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<v Speaker 2>he felt really strongly about college. So I went to

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<v Speaker 2>college at Rutgers, and then I moved right to the city.

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<v Speaker 2>I was an actress, waitress, you know, for a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I moved to LA and then I got

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<v Speaker 2>work that took me back to New York. So it

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<v Speaker 2>all worked out. But I do love the South and

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<v Speaker 2>I do miss it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it was I have lived every I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually I did it in reverse. So I was born

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<v Speaker 3>in Los Angeles, WO and raised there Wow. And my

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<v Speaker 3>father was an airline pilot. Cool, and back in those days,

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<v Speaker 3>they gave you They gave the the employee a thing

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<v Speaker 3>called a term pass for each family member and you

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<v Speaker 3>could kind of take it look like a little credit

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<v Speaker 3>card with your picture on it, and you just walk

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<v Speaker 3>up to the ticket counter and you'd say, oh, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to go here, and they'd put you on standby

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<v Speaker 3>and off you'd go.

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<v Speaker 4>Amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>It was great. And I ended up traveling all over

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<v Speaker 5>and I've lived.

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<v Speaker 3>All over, but I had never lived in the South.

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<v Speaker 3>So we've been here now, my wife and our two children.

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<v Speaker 3>We've been here now for going on five years.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it. I love it so much. That's a

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<v Speaker 4>cool story.

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<v Speaker 5>It's been great. It's been lovely.

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<v Speaker 3>We have an antique and fine arts store here and

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<v Speaker 3>and I build when I I sort of retired from

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<v Speaker 3>acting and I I started building farmhouse furniture and uh, whoa.

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<v Speaker 5>I was doing it as sort of a.

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<v Speaker 3>Hobby and it just kind of took off and that's, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>that's my primary business now.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, I love farmhouse furniture.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh cool.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I'm, you know, basically a Southern girl. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's all all, it's all good, it's all good. This

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<v Speaker 2>is very cool. I mean, I always love to catch

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<v Speaker 2>up with people who are on our show because people

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<v Speaker 2>are in such different places and doing such different things,

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<v Speaker 2>which is very very interesting, you know, because acting is

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<v Speaker 2>obviously not always like your your forever thing that you

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<v Speaker 2>want to stay in, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think you know you you know as well

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<v Speaker 3>as I do that the folks who can not only

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<v Speaker 3>build build a career bout one with notoriety in it,

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<v Speaker 3>and then maintain that over years and year, that's a

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<v Speaker 3>really really difficult and special thing to be able to do.

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<v Speaker 3>I always admire that the folks who have been able

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<v Speaker 3>to do that.

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<v Speaker 5>You're one of those.

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<v Speaker 4>People, barely Okay, well you know.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's but it's you know, I started when I

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<v Speaker 3>was very very young, and and and.

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<v Speaker 5>It all just sort of happened to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't really I was too young to make it happen,

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<v Speaker 3>so it had happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>And and I I've I've always had a good relationship

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<v Speaker 3>with with the work and with the industry.

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<v Speaker 5>I love it. I love the process.

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<v Speaker 3>But I reached a point really where, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>think it was having children and finding the relationship I

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<v Speaker 3>found because I had struggled in in the relationship area,

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<v Speaker 3>and mostly at my own doing, I hadn't really become

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<v Speaker 3>the person that I needed to be to maintain a

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<v Speaker 3>good quality relationship that was you know, good, good for

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<v Speaker 3>for both then and when I found that in my

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<v Speaker 3>wife and found the kids. I really wanted to just

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<v Speaker 3>plant myself, and we came back. We lived in Barcelona

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<v Speaker 3>for ten years. We started at our store in Barcelona,

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<v Speaker 3>and when then we moved it to the United States,

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<v Speaker 3>and it kind of took off here and it made

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<v Speaker 3>the decision for me, made it very easy.

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<v Speaker 4>That's super interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I do think also being born here is

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, is so rare, like you almost never

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<v Speaker 2>meet people who were born in Los Angeles, right, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Very rare.

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<v Speaker 2>And also I don't know how old you were when

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<v Speaker 2>you started acting, but I can only imagine how kind

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<v Speaker 2>of odd that is to be in it as a

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<v Speaker 2>young person.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I was eleven when it happened. I can

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<v Speaker 5>tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>I was playing Pop Warner Football, which was little league football.

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<v Speaker 3>And my coach was a commercial director and he with

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<v Speaker 3>great guys and coach coach Blaine, Colin Blaine, and he

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<v Speaker 3>went to my parents during the Actors strike of nineteen.

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<v Speaker 5>Seven, the Eighth Wow, and he said.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't hire a union actor during the strike, but

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<v Speaker 3>your son is perfect for this commercial I'm shooting.

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<v Speaker 5>And it was for gear Deli chocolate chip cookies.

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<v Speaker 4>Amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>So he goes, he goes to my dad.

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<v Speaker 3>And he goes and my dad was coaching another team

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<v Speaker 3>and he goes, will your son, do you think you

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<v Speaker 3>think Tim would would want to eat chocolate chip cookies

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<v Speaker 3>in a commercial for me? And my dad said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>given how he eats them at home, I would imagine yes,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, go ask him. So he asked me,

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<v Speaker 3>and of course I said yes. I ended up in

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<v Speaker 3>San Francisco shooting this commercial, and long story short.

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<v Speaker 5>That puts you into the union, right. You go through this,

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<v Speaker 5>it's like a catch twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't work if you're not in the union, but

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<v Speaker 3>you can't get in the union if you haven't worked,

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<v Speaker 3>And a strike offers that opportunity right to make that

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<v Speaker 3>magic trick work.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's what happened to me.

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<v Speaker 3>And the next thing I knew, I was auditioning for

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<v Speaker 3>Michael landon Wow or the spin off of Little House

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<v Speaker 3>in the Prairie, Cold Father Murphy. It was on NBC

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<v Speaker 3>for a few years, and I got that role and

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<v Speaker 3>it changed everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing. But yet you seem very grounded and whole. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>was there something that you did to get through being

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<v Speaker 2>a child actor that helped you.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I wasn't always grounded, and I wasn't always whole. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I've had First of all, i'm the youngest of five kids,

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<v Speaker 3>and they've all played a role in one way or

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<v Speaker 3>another of whole you know, grounding me at a different time,

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<v Speaker 3>certainly when I was a younger, when I was a

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<v Speaker 3>child actor and had more notoriety, and I sort of

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<v Speaker 3>went from one series to another at that time.

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<v Speaker 5>For a few years, I was too young to be

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<v Speaker 5>to struggle with.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of those social things that you struggle with when

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<v Speaker 3>you get older, and so I had that family around me.

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<v Speaker 5>It was so easy. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>My parents were really involved and they had us going

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<v Speaker 3>from one thing to another. They didn't take an eye

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<v Speaker 3>office too much. So a lot of that stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>happened to kids and child actors didn't happen to me.

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<v Speaker 5>I was very, very fortunate.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, oh gosh, good for them.

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<v Speaker 3>But later, you know, I've I've I had my own

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<v Speaker 3>fair share of struggles, and much of it was just

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<v Speaker 3>self imposed, getting wrapped up in you know, maybe too

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<v Speaker 3>much drinking or maybe drugs, stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I mean, there's so much of it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, and I definitely had my fair share of

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<v Speaker 3>years in there where I was putting more emphasis on

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<v Speaker 3>going out and getting into trouble than I was on

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<v Speaker 3>really anything else, And so that's not good. You're not

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<v Speaker 3>really forming great relationships in that. And it wasn't until

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<v Speaker 3>much later. I'm now almost sixty, but I've Patry and

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<v Speaker 3>I have been married now for almost fifteen years, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was when I met her that everything started to kind.

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<v Speaker 5>Of come U.

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<v Speaker 4>That's so nice.

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<v Speaker 5>It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>Help me put Sex.

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<v Speaker 2>And City in the middle of this, Like, where were

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<v Speaker 2>you in your career when you ended up being our

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly good looking detective.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what?

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<v Speaker 3>That was a big year for me. I was on

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<v Speaker 3>a daytime soap opera at the time, on One Life

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<v Speaker 3>to Live, and I think I had just come off

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<v Speaker 3>of just gotten an Emmy Daytime Emmy nomination, and that

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<v Speaker 3>was a big deal for me, of course, and then

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<v Speaker 3>I got this role.

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<v Speaker 5>I went in and an audition for Alan the.

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<v Speaker 3>Director, and he just makes a decision sort of on

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<v Speaker 3>the spot, very quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a great guy. We love it so much. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he's a super talented guy too.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I walked in there and kind of walked

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<v Speaker 3>out knowing that I was going to be on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>And the thing that I knew about it, even though

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<v Speaker 3>I think that was I think it was season.

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<v Speaker 2>Two, Season three, Season three, our best season as far

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<v Speaker 2>as I'm concerned.

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<v Speaker 3>Season three, and it was like already it was in

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the at the flashpoint of the zeitgeist, right,

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<v Speaker 3>it was just y. I remember I did that show

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<v Speaker 3>and then it aired, and it was it seemed like

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<v Speaker 3>all the other work I'd done before, where you'd get

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<v Speaker 3>stopped in the airport once every third trip.

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<v Speaker 5>Now you're you're on Sex in the City. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>matter whether you were a guest or or not.

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<v Speaker 3>People are gonna are going to recognize you and recognize

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<v Speaker 3>your work.

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<v Speaker 5>And that was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Good.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a lot of questions I didn't know the

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<v Speaker 3>answer to a lot of questions about you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, well you really only wereked with, well you were

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<v Speaker 2>with Sarah and Cynthia, but predominantly Cynthia.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think we ever met that.

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<v Speaker 5>I know, no, we didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't meet and and and if I'm totally honest,

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<v Speaker 3>I I wanted to meet you. I think I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to meet you more than than than any of.

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<v Speaker 4>Well why didn't we darn and I didn't.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't meet you. I remember talking to my buddy

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<v Speaker 5>Paul was like, what's what was it like? Did you

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<v Speaker 5>meet christ?

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<v Speaker 4>And I said, no, I wish I had met you too.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I must have been I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>in this episode, I'm off in Connecticut with the Kyle's family,

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<v Speaker 2>the Tree family, and I do know we went to Connecticut,

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<v Speaker 2>so I might have actually physically not even been around.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you know, you know how it is on sets.

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<v Speaker 3>You can it's possible for you to you know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>possible for you to inhabit two.

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<v Speaker 5>Roles that are well featured. You might not ever see

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<v Speaker 5>each other. It's true.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's a bummer.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a bummer because sometimes we would have read throughs

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<v Speaker 2>where everyone would be there. But I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>at this point in the season, because I think at

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<v Speaker 2>this point in the season, this is three seventeen, so

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<v Speaker 2>it was like back in the day where we used

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<v Speaker 2>to make so many episodes in a season, right. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we were hectic, you know, we'd gone to la

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<v Speaker 2>I think, and come back like we were.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we just lost our minds at this point

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<v Speaker 4>in this season.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, I remember it being very It felt

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<v Speaker 3>to me anyway, like kind of an efficient machine that

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<v Speaker 3>was moving very fast, much faster than I expected. Of course,

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<v Speaker 3>you know on daytime in soaps it moves so lightning fast.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh god, I was on a soap once. It was crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, it is crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're like, you know, on a busy show, your

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<v Speaker 3>thirty pages of dialogue a day, and.

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<v Speaker 5>So I went there. It was like a vacation. No,

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<v Speaker 5>it was a few lines here, a few lines there,

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<v Speaker 5>and it was great.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a pressing question for you, though, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>really curious about this. Is it my imagination or was

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<v Speaker 2>there a part of this that you filmed with Cynthia

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<v Speaker 2>where she throws up on you while you're having sex.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, it's true, right, yeah, yeah, I'm right.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is so crazy to me because you know

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<v Speaker 2>they cut it out.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh I know, they cut it out.

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<v Speaker 3>They cut it out, and they changed the ending so

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<v Speaker 3>that she wakes up with that massive hangover, stumbles down

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<v Speaker 3>her hallway and finds a note. She thinks it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be his phone number, and he's left through the

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<v Speaker 3>phone number to AA.

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<v Speaker 4>Is so sad. It is so sad.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you remember, like, because I remember there

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<v Speaker 2>was a lot of discussion.

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<v Speaker 4>There was soup.

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<v Speaker 2>They put soup like Campbell's soup in the thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>they put a tube and she had to throw up

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<v Speaker 2>on you while you're having sex.

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<v Speaker 3>You're one hundred percent right, wow, most. First of all,

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<v Speaker 3>let's talk sex scenes in Hollywood. It's not it's the most.

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<v Speaker 3>It's mortifying. It's you've got, you know, a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>people around doing the various things that need to be done,

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<v Speaker 3>from lighting to measuring your note. You're trying to get

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<v Speaker 3>the rolling around right and the kissing right and the hole.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>So with of course, Cynthia made it easy. She's a

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<v Speaker 3>total pro the way they had this thing structured. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in her bed, I got the pillows behind me,

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<v Speaker 3>she's straddling me, so i'm you know, they've got me

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<v Speaker 3>naked from the waist up and they've got her in

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<v Speaker 3>the pasty so she's got the bare back and they're

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<v Speaker 3>over her shoulder or no, no, for this particular shot,

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<v Speaker 3>they're like they're in a two shot on the side

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<v Speaker 3>and her profile is blocking the machine. Which is basically

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<v Speaker 3>like this massive like two inch or three inch cannon

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<v Speaker 3>that they've set up that's like air actuated, right, and

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<v Speaker 3>they filled it with with with with chunky soup.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, and they and then the way the scene was written.

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<v Speaker 3>Was she's sort of, you know, I got to go

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<v Speaker 3>through it, so sho, sort of She's writhing on top

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<v Speaker 3>of me, and we're we're you know, and and and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm holding her and and and she's getting seasick from

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<v Speaker 3>all the drinking that she did, right, and so for

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<v Speaker 3>whatever reason she felt inadequate, she drank herself through it.

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<v Speaker 3>She starts to get sick motion sickness, and she throws

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<v Speaker 3>up on me and they fire this They fire this

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<v Speaker 3>stuff out of the cannon and it's like projectile, like

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<v Speaker 3>horizontal across the screen, just right into my face and

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<v Speaker 3>in my mouth and in my own and in my chest,

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<v Speaker 3>and oh my god. I didn't have to do anything

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<v Speaker 3>because I don't need to react really beyond yeah. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just well, they looked at that, apparently, this is

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<v Speaker 3>what I heard. I heard they looked at it in post,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, and they were like, no, we can't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like Linda.

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<v Speaker 5>Blair on you know, on Mescal and we can't, we

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<v Speaker 5>can't do this.

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<v Speaker 3>We my god, this is going to be indelible. They're

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<v Speaker 3>only going to remember this, I'm imagining was their inner dialogue.

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<v Speaker 3>But for whatever reason, they just thought it was too

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<v Speaker 3>gruesome to be able to show it, and they changed it.

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<v Speaker 5>But a lot of people don't know that, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>in somewhere that footage exists.

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<v Speaker 2>I know see in my mind it was so vividly written,

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel like somehow I might have seen the

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<v Speaker 2>dailies because Cynthia used to love to watch her dailies

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<v Speaker 2>and it was really extreme, like I have a very

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<v Speaker 2>vivid image of it in my mind, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really I wasn't sure that they cut it out, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do remember conversation about it, and remember that the

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<v Speaker 2>conversation was that it went too far in the embarrassment

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<v Speaker 2>of Miranda, right.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that makes sense because they do love.

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<v Speaker 2>To embarrass us, like all of the characters get embarrassed

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<v Speaker 2>in different ways throughout the years.

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<v Speaker 4>But this was kind of maybe just like too.

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<v Speaker 3>Far, I think so, I think so, I think maybe

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<v Speaker 3>if they I don't know, if they had somehow not

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<v Speaker 3>shown the actual yeah, action of it all. Maybe it

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<v Speaker 3>would have worked, but hey, listen, I think they ended

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<v Speaker 3>up with a satisfactory ending.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So this is my Hyundai hot take, celebrating

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<v Speaker 2>iconic moments, bold moves, and unforgettable style, just like Hyundai.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that since we're talking about unforgettable style, I

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<v Speaker 2>cannot choose anything except for Sarah Jessica walking down the

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<v Speaker 2>street in the newspaper or print dere because it's so beautiful,

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<v Speaker 2>and not only is it so beautiful, it tells the

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<v Speaker 2>story so beautifully of you know, kind of where she's at.

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<v Speaker 2>It's got the city, it's got the long lens, the

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<v Speaker 2>way Allen Colter filmed her, the way that wind is

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<v Speaker 2>blowing her hair, because you know that that is not

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<v Speaker 2>a shot that we could have in any way affected

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<v Speaker 2>the wind. Right, he's probably a whole block away. There

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<v Speaker 2>are cars passing in front of her. I just think

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<v Speaker 2>it's so beautiful that I could watch it over and

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<v Speaker 2>over and over again. And the way that she's alone

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<v Speaker 2>and there's these cars passing which kind of obscure her,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of in the way that the character Carrie isn't

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<v Speaker 2>clear in her life about what she's doing and about

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<v Speaker 2>what she's done, and she's trying to come to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of terms with her own actions in terms of having

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<v Speaker 2>the affair with Big and what does it mean And

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<v Speaker 2>now that he's separated from his wife and he's alone somewhere,

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<v Speaker 2>but yet she's alone on the street. We're not with her,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, she's very much framed by strangers passing behind

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<v Speaker 2>her and cars passing in front of her. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>so incredibly beautiful that I could watch it over and

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<v Speaker 2>over again, and to me, it's crazy to think about

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<v Speaker 2>how that was one moment in just a TV show

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<v Speaker 2>at the time that was twenty five minutes long. It

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<v Speaker 2>blows my mind.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's one of.

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<v Speaker 2>The joys of getting to rewatch the show is that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just so impressed with everyone involved with our show,

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<v Speaker 2>the writers, the directors, our DP, our camera operators, like

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<v Speaker 2>everyone was just doing their best best work, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so proud of it. Hope that would be my Hyndai

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<v Speaker 2>hot take, presented by the all new Hyundai Palis Hybrid

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<v Speaker 2>making everyday epic. Well, you have a lot of dignity

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<v Speaker 2>your part. You have a lot of dignity. Like the

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<v Speaker 2>thing that I love about your part, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>unusual for a man who's kind of a guest star

0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:09.159
<v Speaker 2>type of guy. Right, you know, you come, you're the detective.

0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:12.760
<v Speaker 2>When Sarah gets Carrie gets held up in the street,

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<v Speaker 2>which is also really odd, a very odd scene, right,

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<v Speaker 2>like this guy pulls his gun out and she kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thinks it's a joke, which I kind of understand

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<v Speaker 2>because it's total daylight.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all very odd. And then you come.

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<v Speaker 2>You're very professional. You know, you're very good looking, but

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<v Speaker 2>you're very professional.

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<v Speaker 4>And then Miranda.

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<v Speaker 2>Shows up and the first thing you say to her

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<v Speaker 2>is something about like, oh maybe you should read me

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<v Speaker 2>my Miranda writes or come with me, right, a funny

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<v Speaker 2>little joke, like you're like you have an interesting combination

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<v Speaker 2>of like dignity, you know what I'm saying, because you're

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<v Speaker 2>the cop and you're not really like overdoing it, but

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<v Speaker 2>you're also kind of flirty and good looking and interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>So she's all like a flutter.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Carrie is like trying to get your attention

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<v Speaker 2>while you two were talking, She's like standing on her

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<v Speaker 2>toes and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you remember this? It's really funny.

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<v Speaker 3>I love the scene where she gets jacked for her

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<v Speaker 3>Manola bloonnos which was part of that. And I'll tell

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<v Speaker 3>you some of the things that I liked about this,

0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:11.760
<v Speaker 3>the way they that Alan also his direction. So when

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<v Speaker 3>we're in the restaurant, and I've had a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>comments about this, when we're in the restaurant, Alan told me,

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<v Speaker 3>you know your attention is on her, that all this

0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:24.520
<v Speaker 3>external attention this character is getting, you don't notice that

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<v Speaker 3>at all. And of course it makes complete sense that

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<v Speaker 3>he It goes to supporting the idea that he's entirely

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<v Speaker 3>enamored with her. And I love the way that read

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<v Speaker 3>when I watched it. When I watch it in the episode,

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<v Speaker 3>I love the way that that simple little thing, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not even the dialogue really, it's just the action that

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<v Speaker 3>that this guy is genuinely focused on her and not

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<v Speaker 3>on any of this external energy that he's getting. And

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<v Speaker 3>I liked the character for that. I think that's part

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<v Speaker 3>of where the dignity the character comes from. Yeah, there

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<v Speaker 3>was another thing that happened that that happens a lot

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<v Speaker 3>as a result, which is kind of anecdotal, but it's funny.

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<v Speaker 5>The comment, I'm not kidding.

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<v Speaker 3>The comment I would get the most of consistently from

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<v Speaker 3>people who knew me and didn't know me was.

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<v Speaker 5>You have really nice hands, and that was what they

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<v Speaker 5>would say.

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<v Speaker 3>And I came away from that, I mean, as an actor,

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<v Speaker 3>I came away thinking maybe I should be a hand mom.

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<v Speaker 5>Totally.

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<v Speaker 4>That's exactly what I thought.

0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:30.080
<v Speaker 5>That's what went through my head, which is not great

0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:33.280
<v Speaker 5>for an actor to think. It's not a great review

0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:33.639
<v Speaker 5>right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, it's a good review. That's a nice thing.

0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:41.600
<v Speaker 3>No, it was that experience was a great one. And

0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:44.800
<v Speaker 3>here you have an example of something that was a small,

0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:47.320
<v Speaker 3>little blip in terms of the time that it took.

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<v Speaker 3>But because it was such a popular program, and because

0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:56.520
<v Speaker 3>you guys had landed so solidly with the public, they

0:22:57.160 --> 0:22:58.040
<v Speaker 3>they come on.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean they.

0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:02.359
<v Speaker 3>Still devour that show. I still watch that show. I

0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:04.160
<v Speaker 3>love watching that shows.

0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:07.040
<v Speaker 5>It's not only a love letter to New York, which.

0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:09.240
<v Speaker 3>Is an aspect of it that I that is near

0:23:09.240 --> 0:23:13.120
<v Speaker 3>and dear to me. I can't not watch something that's

0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:16.760
<v Speaker 3>a love letter either to La or New York. But

0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:20.520
<v Speaker 3>it's also just the nature of what you talked about earlier,

0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:22.960
<v Speaker 3>how they made you guys very.

0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:25.440
<v Speaker 5>Human when they made fun of.

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<v Speaker 2>You, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the whole Yeah.

0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:33.439
<v Speaker 2>I mean, our writers obviously are you know, excellent and

0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:35.960
<v Speaker 2>the reason in our minds.

0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:36.240
<v Speaker 4>For the success.

0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:39.320
<v Speaker 2>We we're just lucky as actors, you know, to get

0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:42.000
<v Speaker 2>that job right. But I love like and that's what

0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:46.560
<v Speaker 2>I love about about There's a few a few guys,

0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:48.000
<v Speaker 2>and I'm trying to think now of other ones.

0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:49.600
<v Speaker 4>It's hard to even think of other ones.

0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:54.240
<v Speaker 2>Where you know, like Miranda because of her insecurity, because

0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:56.240
<v Speaker 2>she feels like you're better looking than she is, which

0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:59.840
<v Speaker 2>is so relatable and adorable. She messes up right, like

0:23:59.880 --> 0:24:02.119
<v Speaker 2>she messes up a good thing because you have all

0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:03.120
<v Speaker 2>the dignity.

0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:03.399
<v Speaker 4>You're a cop.

0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:06.440
<v Speaker 2>You're totally focused on her, even though the whole restaurant

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:08.640
<v Speaker 2>is looking at you, which is also kind of an

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:12.359
<v Speaker 2>interesting It's like a you know, you're like the really

0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 2>good looking girl but with a heart of gold, like

0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:18.159
<v Speaker 2>totally focused and professional and appropriate and all of the

0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:21.280
<v Speaker 2>things right. And it would have still been true if

0:24:21.320 --> 0:24:23.800
<v Speaker 2>they had kept in the throwing up part because you're

0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:26.960
<v Speaker 2>also like, you know, like what are you supposed to.

0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:27.240
<v Speaker 4>Do with that?

0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:27.520
<v Speaker 5>Right?

0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 2>But without it and writing the AA note also amazing,

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:33.879
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, Like I love the arc.

0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:37.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I do, I get it. He was a good

0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:41.960
<v Speaker 5>He was a good guy. And it's.

0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 3>Still when I watched the episode, I know, I'm kind

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:47.240
<v Speaker 3>of taking us off on a date.

0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:48.280
<v Speaker 4>You can go anyway.

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:50.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm probably going to get this. You can probably if

0:24:50.760 --> 0:24:52.280
<v Speaker 3>you haven't gotten to it before me, you're going to

0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:56.480
<v Speaker 3>get to it. I thought that the character who for

0:24:56.600 --> 0:25:01.240
<v Speaker 3>me stole that show was the actor who played Sam.

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:06.080
<v Speaker 4>It's so funny. I am a doctor, it's so funny.

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:07.880
<v Speaker 4>I know who is that guy?

0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know it.

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:14.400
<v Speaker 3>He was absolutely hysterical, and it really was. I mean

0:25:14.560 --> 0:25:17.199
<v Speaker 3>everything from the voice to the temperament and when he

0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:19.520
<v Speaker 3>starts to get like needy.

0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:20.040
<v Speaker 5>How funny.

0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:21.240
<v Speaker 4>That's so funny.

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:24.160
<v Speaker 5>The sex scenes were hilarious.

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Hilarious, hilarious, And a lot of that is Alan Coulter too,

0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:30.200
<v Speaker 2>as you said, like he the way that I think

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Ellen Colter makes actors feel very comfortable, right, which is

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:34.639
<v Speaker 2>really nice.

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:35.880
<v Speaker 4>And then he's also.

0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Really creative about the shots and how he does them.

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:42.240
<v Speaker 2>And I had one hundred percent forgotten that entire storyline.

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:45.240
<v Speaker 2>Like sometimes when I'm watching, I'm really watching for the

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:49.080
<v Speaker 2>first time because I don't remember anything really, and I

0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:52.119
<v Speaker 2>didn't remember that storyline, not for one tiny second. I

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:53.359
<v Speaker 2>was like, who is Sam Jones?

0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:56.280
<v Speaker 4>What is this? I didn't know? And then it's this kid.

0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know who that actor is. I don't

0:25:58.000 --> 0:25:59.840
<v Speaker 2>know why he has that accent.

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 5>What was going on?

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:04.159
<v Speaker 4>He's great.

0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:07.520
<v Speaker 2>And also it's so funny the way that the writing,

0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:10.760
<v Speaker 2>because so the basic gist for anyone who doesn't remember

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:14.720
<v Speaker 2>is that Sam is Samantha's at home in her new

0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:17.320
<v Speaker 2>loft and she's getting all these phone calls about this party,

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:20.440
<v Speaker 2>this big blowout that she's throwing, and all these guys

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:22.560
<v Speaker 2>are calling to say that they're coming, So that kind

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:24.240
<v Speaker 2>of piques her interest because she doesn't know what they're

0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:27.199
<v Speaker 2>talking about. And then she calls the guy that she

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:28.960
<v Speaker 2>says something to one of the guys calling her to

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 2>confirm going to the party.

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 4>She says, like, who, you know what party? And he

0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 4>tells them.

0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 2>Where and it's a it's it's it's like a downtown

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:44.040
<v Speaker 2>uh you know, it's by Washington Square Park, right, So

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:46.640
<v Speaker 2>she thinks it's very posh, because of course you would

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:48.439
<v Speaker 2>think an address down there would be very posh. Well,

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:51.919
<v Speaker 2>it's New York University, so it's it's like a fricking

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 2>house exactly it's in a dorm, which is so mortifying.

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 2>She makes carry go, I had not remembered any of this.

0:26:58.200 --> 0:26:59.200
<v Speaker 2>It's really funny.

0:26:59.400 --> 0:26:59.840
<v Speaker 4>They go in.

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:02.439
<v Speaker 2>Carrie's like, you know, don't tell anyone we did this.

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 2>So they go in and there's all these young people

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 2>and she goes up to the guy, who is sam

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Jones also, and he tells her he's a virgin, I believe,

0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:13.720
<v Speaker 2>which is also really funny, and you can see her

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:15.400
<v Speaker 2>eyes light up. But then she's like, no, no, we're

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 2>gonna leave, you know, which is the right thing to do,

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:22.199
<v Speaker 2>and then he pursues her or whatever. Right like, he

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 2>comes over. It's crazy, and they have like very athletic sex,

0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 2>very athletic and creatively filmed sex, and he's of course thrilled,

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:34.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, and she's of course like not really thrilled,

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:37.720
<v Speaker 2>though she does see more nowt but not like she's

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 2>not in her Samantha Jones way excited. But he is

0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:43.960
<v Speaker 2>very excited and tells her he loves her, and she's

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 2>like bye bye.

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah exactly, and then he just starts to evolve, right.

0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:50.479
<v Speaker 4>And you know, it's exact.

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 5>I found that.

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 3>Whole thing to be kind of poignant but also extremely

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:58.400
<v Speaker 3>funny and touching. That's the sort of that's the thing

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 3>that show did, is you you don't feel the needle

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 3>going in, but it did, from time to time touch

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 3>on something important or something. There's a lesson in there.

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 3>They're very often a lesson in there, hidden away, and

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:15.640
<v Speaker 3>all the laughs and all of that.

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 5>That's what made it so.

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 3>I think it was one of the things that obviously

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 3>it's your chemistry, you guys. They got so lucky when

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 3>they cast that show and they figured out because you know,

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:29.919
<v Speaker 3>at any given place that could have gone off the

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 3>rails or not worked from a chemistry point. That's true

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:36.879
<v Speaker 3>because there's a lot of there's a lot of you.

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of you there.

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:41.040
<v Speaker 4>You know, there are a lot of us there, right, and.

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 3>So it just it was magic that that chemistry and

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 3>everything worked out the way that it did.

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 2>It's true, it's true, and it was magic because none

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 2>of us read together, you know, now they would do

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 2>the chemistry.

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 5>Really yeah, I thought that that you. I would have

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 5>thought for sure that you read together.

0:28:57.520 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, no.

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 2>That's why it's also so just kind of odd. You know,

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 2>it's like Kismet or whatever. It's a strange thing.

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 5>So walk me through. What how did you? How did

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:11.640
<v Speaker 5>it work out for you? You get this? Obviously your

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 5>agent calls you, you get this audition?

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:15.959
<v Speaker 2>What not exactly like that because I already knew Darren

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Starr who actually wrote this episode?

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 4>Is that right? Am I correct?

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Darren Starr wrote this episode, which is interesting because

0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize. I know, it's a great episode, I

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 2>didn't realize he Darren has described himself in interviews as

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 2>being like a shark, like he has to keep moving,

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 2>so he likes to create shows and then move on

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 2>generally speaking. So I knew him because he cast me

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:40.120
<v Speaker 2>on Melrose, and right after Melrose he left, and I

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh no, my guy left because he was

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 2>the only guy who seemed to understand my character. So

0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 2>then they were like, we don't know what to do

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 2>with this character, and so they killed me off, which

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 2>was fine. I did I think thirty six episodes some

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 2>insane amount of episodes.

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 4>Of that show.

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 2>And then he had thought to himself that he was

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:00.160
<v Speaker 2>tired of regular network stuff and he wanted to go

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 2>to HBO, even though HBO wasn't really known for original programming,

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 2>So he options Candice Bushnell's book of the column Sex

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 2>and the City and he takes it to HBO and

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 2>he makes a deal at HBO and they're going to

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 2>make this pilot. And it was kind of, you know,

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 2>for all the actresses in LA it was like, what

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 2>like four women stomping around New York City and outfits

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 2>like they're in charge, like what Like it was unheard of,

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, and it still is kind of unheard of,

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 2>which is a sad commentary, I think on our business.

0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 2>But at the time, which was I think nineteen ninety seven,

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:38.239
<v Speaker 2>that's when we got cast in the pilot, it was,

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:40.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, like just I remember just thinking.

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 4>So the short version of the story.

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:45.479
<v Speaker 2>He sends me the script because they had wanted Sir

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Jessica to play Carry she was getting cold feet about

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 2>committing to a television show. So he sent me the

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 2>script with a little note that said, Kristen read this

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:56.080
<v Speaker 2>for the role of Carrie. And I was like, I

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 2>can't play this Carrie part ah, because I knew myself

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 2>and I was very Southern at that point inside, even

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 2>though I don't know people knew that or not or whatever,

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:08.240
<v Speaker 2>and I thought I was Charlotte because I related much

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 2>more to Charlotte. So I said, Darren, I can't play

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 2>this part. I've got to play this other, this one

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 2>over here, and he was like, okay, all right. So

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 2>then I went in.

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 4>To test.

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:21.080
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have to do anything but test because he

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 2>knew me. I go into test and they seemed very

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 2>unsure about everything, except for Sara Jusica because at that

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 2>point they had really like put all their eggs in

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 2>that basket.

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 4>They really wanted Sarah. They were talking to.

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Comedians about Samantha. They had asked Kim and Kim said no.

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 2>I think she said no twice. So they were kind

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 2>of in this thing between Sara Juskain and Kim, Sarajuska

0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:46.200
<v Speaker 2>and Kim. No one had ever met anyone except Cynthia

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 2>and Sarah knew each.

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 4>Other from Broadway and they had worked together before, but.

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 2>No one ever had anyone read together as these parts

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 2>or whatever.

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 3>At that surprises me, that's crazy.

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 2>So Cynthia was in New York, I was in LA.

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 2>They had tested Cynthia as well. She told the story

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 2>when she came on the podcast, and then they were

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 2>they for both of us.

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 4>They let it go.

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, when you test, you have like a set

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 2>period of time that they have to tell you. It's

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 2>like two weeks or something like this. They had gone

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 2>to the eleventh hour for her and not told her.

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 2>So her manager was calling them basically saying, you're going

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 2>to lose Cynthia. Because it was still pilot season. Remember

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 2>in the days of pilot season. Yep, she's her manager

0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 2>was calling them every hour saying, you're going to lose her.

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 4>You're gonna lose her. She's getting on a plane.

0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:41.479
<v Speaker 2>To go to LA to shoot a pilot and if

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:43.480
<v Speaker 2>you don't get her before then she's going to do

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 2>this other show. Because really she didn't want to go

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 2>do this other show in LA. She wanted to stay

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 2>in New York and do our show. So the manager

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 2>had to. Emily had to do her managerial thing right,

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:58.520
<v Speaker 2>and mine mine. I'm like dying, like so tortured by

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 2>having to wait, like every day I'm my lawyer. Every day,

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm calling my manager, every day I'm calling my agent, like.

0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:04.760
<v Speaker 4>Did they call you? Did they call you? What is happening?

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm just like out of my ever loving mind.

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 2>So on the final day, they still hadn't called, and

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 2>so I went to the movies in the daytime down

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 2>at Santa Monica AMC just to try.

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 4>To get through a couple of guys. I've been there, right,

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 4>it's so hard.

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 2>And I remember being in the parking lot. I had

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 2>my little clunky cell phone at the time, in the

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 2>beginning of the cell phones, and I called my manager.

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 4>Like, what did you hear anything? And he was like yeah.

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 2>They finally said yeah, but they seemed kind of on

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 2>the fence and I was like, ah.

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 4>Well, I'll just go do it. It'll be all right.

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 2>And I went and did it, and then they tried

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 2>to demote me to recurring. It's a long story, but

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 2>it all worked out. It all worked, It.

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 3>Worked out beautifully, and I so they answered they answered

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 3>their question of.

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 5>Whether or not you were Charlotte. Yes, And I think

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 5>you answered it really well.

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 4>Thank you. So wait, tell me a little bit you

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 4>you alluded to it.

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 2>But so tell me what it was like when the

0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 2>show aired and you'd be walking around. What do people

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:00.400
<v Speaker 2>say to you?

0:34:00.400 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 5>You know?

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 3>It was amazing. First of all, I had that year

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 3>was quite a year for me where two things happened

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:12.279
<v Speaker 3>that were unexpected. They were different jobs for me. Sex

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 3>and the City, of course was one of them, and

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.799
<v Speaker 3>then I did. I was called this is funny. I

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 3>was called well, okay, my agent in New York gets

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:24.760
<v Speaker 3>a submission from these fellows that come over from Europe

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:28.719
<v Speaker 3>and they're producing a new video game that's a sequel

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 3>to another one. It's called Max Pain. It was the

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 3>sequel to Max Pain. It was the game. But they said,

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 3>what we're doing is looking for an actor because we're

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:40.680
<v Speaker 3>going to actually capture not just the motion, but we're

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 3>going to capture his face and his movements through the

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 3>graphic novel and into the game. And it's like this

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 3>two and a half month experience, and we are looking

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 3>for someone who looks like this guy.

0:34:55.400 --> 0:35:01.280
<v Speaker 5>And they put they gave my picture to my agent. Yeah, swear,

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:03.360
<v Speaker 5>that's freaky totally.

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 3>My agent calls me because you're not going to believe this,

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:07.839
<v Speaker 3>But I was just given your picture and told to

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:09.400
<v Speaker 3>find a guy that looks like you.

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 5>And I said, you're kidding for what?

0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 3>And he explains the whole thing, and I go, well,

0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 3>here's the thing.

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 1>If I don't get this, I mean, if I don't

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 1>get this, then there's either something wrong with me or

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 1>I definitely have the right to be somehow pissed.

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:29.239
<v Speaker 5>So I go and meet them and it was a

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:30.239
<v Speaker 5>nice meeting. It was great.

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:32.400
<v Speaker 3>I ended up getting this thing, and it was so

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 3>interesting because the video game community, Yeah, is this ferocious,

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, infected in a good way, very involved. Like

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 3>if you think the soap opera, the daytime soap opera

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:51.000
<v Speaker 3>fans are rabid, no, no, no, the video game fans are.

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 3>You know, they're they're like comic book and they know

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:58.480
<v Speaker 3>everything that's that's supposed to happen and how every fiber

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:02.719
<v Speaker 3>is supposed to look. And so it was that was

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 3>something that even to this day, people are still you know,

0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 3>I still have connections to to people who are affected

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 3>by that fans of that game, and the same with

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:18.400
<v Speaker 3>with with Sex and the City. So this thing airs

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 3>and I start getting stopped on the street in New York.

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 3>I was still shooting the show The one uh one

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:29.320
<v Speaker 3>Life to Live, and I was getting stopped all.

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 5>The time when it was airing.

0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:34.880
<v Speaker 3>You know, just tell asking me if I was on

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:37.800
<v Speaker 3>the show, did you play Hey were you Stevens?

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 5>And that of course was you know in the in

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 5>in in in the.

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 3>Over the years in which I was an actor, I

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:53.840
<v Speaker 3>didn't quite have that kind of notoriety. Even on daytime

0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 3>where where it was somewhat popular, you don't really have

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 3>that kind of engagement with with the folks who watch.

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 5>So I was gratified by that.

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:04.839
<v Speaker 3>Actually, I thought it was fun to meet all those

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 3>people and you'd catch a quick story about who they

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 3>are or what share their thoughts on the show. But

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:15.279
<v Speaker 3>they would always ask me about you guys. They would

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:18.600
<v Speaker 3>have always ask me questions about all of you, you know,

0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:22.440
<v Speaker 3>as questions about Cynthia that I couldn't answer because they

0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:24.879
<v Speaker 3>think that we know each other better than we do.

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:28.719
<v Speaker 5>And so there was a lot of that, and a

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:32.400
<v Speaker 5>lot of the hands thing, you know, the hands interesting.

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:35.319
<v Speaker 3>That was so weird, And I know why because in

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 3>the restaurant scene, in those shots it's with the wine glasses.

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 5>It's basically, my hands are like a third character.

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 4>Interesting. I was not looking at that. I'm going to

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 4>have to look back at it. I like it. I

0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:52.680
<v Speaker 4>like it. Do you miss acting sometimes?

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:52.960
<v Speaker 3>I do?

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes I do? Yeah, sometimes I You know.

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:59.440
<v Speaker 3>The last thing I did was an independent series a

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:03.120
<v Speaker 3>few years back called Paper Empire. It hasn't really gone

0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 3>too far that that thing. It was a producer went

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:08.959
<v Speaker 3>and made it on his own dime and started trying

0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:12.239
<v Speaker 3>to sell it around town. You know how that can go. Yes,

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 3>but it's the the experience of being in front of

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:18.880
<v Speaker 3>the camera is the same, no matter what the sales

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:21.920
<v Speaker 3>experiences later for something. As the actor, you have the

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:25.279
<v Speaker 3>same the same sort of feelings. Yeah, it's always been.

0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:27.839
<v Speaker 3>It had always been a career that had been good

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:28.080
<v Speaker 3>to me.

0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:29.200
<v Speaker 5>And and.

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 3>I sometimes still even questioned the why did I did

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 3>I stop?

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 5>And and you.

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 3>Know those are that's it's an interesting I mean to

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:47.279
<v Speaker 3>be very honest with you. I think that it's a

0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 3>confluence of things. Really, I think it I had some

0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 3>insecurity that might have led to putting an arms distance

0:38:55.520 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 3>between the experience of incessantly auditioning and going you know,

0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 3>the nature of an act it is, you know, you

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:05.759
<v Speaker 3>know as well as I do that the nature of

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:09.680
<v Speaker 3>an actor is that you're you're you're out of work constantly,

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:12.479
<v Speaker 3>even when you're working, and when you're working, you're looking

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:13.760
<v Speaker 3>for the next thing, and you're.

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:14.399
<v Speaker 5>And so.

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:22.360
<v Speaker 3>I when I found an opportunity to be grounded, I

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:26.799
<v Speaker 3>found it. I was enamored by it. I felt like

0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 3>I had been hugged. And I don't mean to make

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:34.600
<v Speaker 3>it too heady or any of that. But I think

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 3>it was a combination of me meeting Patrie, my wife,

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:44.920
<v Speaker 3>and you know, I have and have had something that

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:48.440
<v Speaker 3>I think, perhaps unfortunately most people may never have, and

0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:55.280
<v Speaker 3>it is I have this extraordinary relationship that is enriched

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 3>me and made me so much better than I was.

0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:00.800
<v Speaker 4>And that's amazing.

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 3>It is, it is amazing, it is. It is nothing

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:08.720
<v Speaker 3>short of amazing. And I don't know why that happened.

0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:13.840
<v Speaker 3>And then I have these we have these two beautiful children,

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:17.839
<v Speaker 3>and I don't know, I just got I got this

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:20.400
<v Speaker 3>point where I said, now I have everything I need

0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:25.400
<v Speaker 3>sort of, and I can maybe stop swimming against the

0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 3>current to try to be something.

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:30.840
<v Speaker 2>More that makes sense to me. I think that's super smart.

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:33.000
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a smart way to go. I mean,

0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:34.400
<v Speaker 2>you'd already had a whole career.

0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:37.720
<v Speaker 3>You know, at times it feels smart. Sometimes it feels

0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:41.359
<v Speaker 3>like I gave up. Some days it feels, you know,

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:45.280
<v Speaker 3>like it was right. And it's just that's just something

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:47.680
<v Speaker 3>that it changes as you think things through and as

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 3>you're and also you know what all strikes you as

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 3>you go and you see like, for instance, you go

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 3>see something like and by no means in my comparing

0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 3>my my own abilities to the likes of these, I

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:01.919
<v Speaker 3>would mention, but you go, you go and see one

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 3>battle after another.

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:07.120
<v Speaker 5>And you know how they.

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:12.840
<v Speaker 3>Generally, you know the process of making it, and and

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 3>and as an actor who's done it for so long,

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 3>it's impossible for you not to opine for for for

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:23.480
<v Speaker 3>that opportunity or that feeling. And I don't think I

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:25.879
<v Speaker 3>don't think that ever leaves you, that you you would

0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 3>just simply not ever want to feel that again.

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 5>Right, I think that.

0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 3>It's not a struggle though, in the sense that when

0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:38.880
<v Speaker 3>I tell you that you know how I feel on

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:41.360
<v Speaker 3>my home front, it really that it really is true,

0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:44.240
<v Speaker 3>and that really sort of makes everything so much easier.

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:46.319
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, I think it's super fascinating.

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 2>I also feel like it's it is kind of it's

0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:52.920
<v Speaker 2>because you started at eleven, right, Like that is you

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:56.680
<v Speaker 2>already had the length of a career of like an

0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 2>incredible career.

0:41:57.640 --> 0:41:58.400
<v Speaker 4>Do you know what I'm saying?

0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I did, I did, I did, I had, I mean,

0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:06.239
<v Speaker 3>I god, I had. My career had been It's been

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:10.439
<v Speaker 3>an interesting one. I played, sure, I played Merlin Olsen's son,

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:16.160
<v Speaker 3>who was the famous linebacker for the Rams. Wow, I

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:20.640
<v Speaker 3>played OJ Simpson's adopted son.

0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:23.799
<v Speaker 5>What yes, what was that? Like?

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:25.800
<v Speaker 4>We have to stop right there for a second.

0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:28.319
<v Speaker 5>Oh what yeah? Yeah?

0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:28.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 4>What year was that?

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:36.800
<v Speaker 5>Okay? That was my That was nineteen seven.

0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:39.800
<v Speaker 3>It was either nineteen I'm gonna say it was nineteen

0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:43.520
<v Speaker 3>seventy nine or nineteen seventy nine.

0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 4>Okay much? And what was he like?

0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:50.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know that's the isn't that the thing with him?

0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:55.719
<v Speaker 3>That he was this very personable magnetic figure with a

0:42:55.760 --> 0:43:00.560
<v Speaker 3>big smile like Magic Johnson. But we all, you know,

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:05.400
<v Speaker 3>didn't realize that his heart was not like Magic Johnson's heart, right.

0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:10.600
<v Speaker 3>But I played a It was a sequel to one

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:13.320
<v Speaker 3>of his TV movies that was very successful called Goldie

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:14.960
<v Speaker 3>in the Boxer, And this was called Goldie in the

0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 3>Boxer goes to Hollywood and this this heavyweight fighter adopts

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:24.919
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of orphans who live behind the movie sets, wow,

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:28.319
<v Speaker 3>and and becomes kind of a father figure to them.

0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:32.880
<v Speaker 3>And I remember he signed a ball that I have

0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:36.600
<v Speaker 3>somewhere that to my family, to the Gibbs family, and

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:38.680
<v Speaker 3>it says peace oh J Simpson.

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 4>Oh, oh my god, oh my god.

0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:43:42.719 --> 0:43:47.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean crazy things that in other words, I've had

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:50.680
<v Speaker 3>a very interesting track and been able to work with

0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 3>some great people. I played Chad evertts Son and then

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:57.400
<v Speaker 3>Stephen Cannell series, so all of these different experiences, and

0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:00.160
<v Speaker 3>and of course in Barcelona, in Spain, I was shooting

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:05.280
<v Speaker 3>movies there, yeah, and that was quite quite fun.

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:10.719
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it's that this career, when practiced at a

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:14.600
<v Speaker 3>certain level, can take you all over and you meet

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:16.960
<v Speaker 3>all kinds of people, you shoot in all different kinds

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:20.920
<v Speaker 3>of lands, and you learn a lot and it's enriching

0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:23.480
<v Speaker 3>in so many ways. So I definitely feel like I

0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:25.359
<v Speaker 3>had that experience, which is.

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 2>So great, so great, and I think that is a

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:30.880
<v Speaker 2>beautiful thing that you found this this incredible relationship and

0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:33.480
<v Speaker 2>grounded family and you're building furniture.

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:34.840
<v Speaker 4>I think that sounds amazing.

0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:38.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's the most it's it's so it's so much fun.

0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 5>I'll show you in my store right now. Okay, so

0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:44.960
<v Speaker 5>this is one of the tables. We build this very old,

0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:47.640
<v Speaker 5>very old, primitive stuff.

0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:48.880
<v Speaker 4>It's so beautiful.

0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 5>And then we build these stools.

0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:57.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, so this is uh, this is my life.

0:44:56.960 --> 0:44:58.560
<v Speaker 4>Now, gorgeous.

0:44:58.719 --> 0:44:59.399
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's cool.

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:02.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna be on your website.

0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:04.680
<v Speaker 5>You got to check it out. You got to go

0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 5>check it out.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we could come by the next time we

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<v Speaker 2>go from Columbia to Charleston.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm telling you you could.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 5>We'd welcome you.

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<v Speaker 4>Amazing, amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>See, that's the kind of life I feel somewhat jealous for,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like you always feel jealous for the other thing,

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<v Speaker 2>right of course. Yeah, yes, like I mean it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>in the cards from here or whatever, but part of

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<v Speaker 2>me I can see the joy of like a grounded

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<v Speaker 2>experience in a tiny town.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that part of it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's interesting tiny towns, Southern towns, they have their secrets

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<v Speaker 3>and they have you know, our little town. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>tiny town, but it's South Carolina has a share of

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<v Speaker 3>corruption at the municipal level.

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<v Speaker 4>And you listen. I mean, I'm not even gonna get started,

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<v Speaker 4>but I know I.

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<v Speaker 5>Could tell you some serious stories.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's never boring down there.

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<v Speaker 3>We've had police chiefs arrested and all kinds of crazy stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh oh yeah, it's it's and this is.

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<v Speaker 3>A tiny little town, so it's uh yeah, I won't

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<v Speaker 3>go into names or anything, but it's been an education

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<v Speaker 3>across the board. But largely, uh, the the nature of it,

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<v Speaker 3>this quiet, sort of simple life.

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<v Speaker 5>It has its attractions, it has its.

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<v Speaker 3>Benefits, and there are moments where I'm grateful to have it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's you know, la, it's a roaring life, and

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<v Speaker 3>New York is even more, but this is more of

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<v Speaker 3>a whisper and it's nice.

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<v Speaker 4>That's very nice. Well, you're a joy. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 4>much for joining us. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>That's part of the fun thing about a pod because

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know everyone's story, and that's why I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do this, because I love to hear everybody's stories,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so I'm so grateful to you for reaching out

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<v Speaker 3>and giving me the opportunity. I've always felt like my

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<v Speaker 3>little stint on that show packed much more of a

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<v Speaker 3>punch than I expected. Yeah, and I'm grateful for that opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>And this gives me the opportunity to actually say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, that's so nice. That's the other thing that I

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<v Speaker 2>love so much. When you know, when you're around actors,

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<v Speaker 2>all of us I think, really, I mean, at least

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<v Speaker 2>most of us have a sense of how lucky we are,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, we're very I think you have to

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<v Speaker 2>be kind of open as a person and grateful and

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<v Speaker 2>the things that you know you have expressed. That's part

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<v Speaker 2>of why I wanted to talk to everybody too, because

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<v Speaker 2>I love to hear each personal version. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>weave all those things together, I do think it's really

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<v Speaker 2>like an interesting backdrop to what people see, right because

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<v Speaker 2>they only see the show the finished product, but like

0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 2>what everyone puts into it is is so interesting, individually interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why it works, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>So much, Timathy for joining us.

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<v Speaker 5>It was my pleasure, honestly, thank you for having me

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<v Speaker 5>my joy.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I know the South Carolina connection. We're gonna have

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<v Speaker 4>to find you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you'll have to come by and see the store.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd love to. I'd love to have a great day.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you have a great one. Bye bye.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks bye,