WEBVTT - I WANT POLLING ON A PRESIDENTIAL RECALL VOTE - 4.7.25

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<v Speaker 1>Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. As

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street prepares for its worst stock market crash since

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<v Speaker 1>nearly Thursday. I want to see polling numbers on a

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<v Speaker 1>presidential recall vote. I know there is no such thing

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<v Speaker 1>as a presidential recall vote, but what the hell? The

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans are always making up laws these days, inside the

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court and out, demanding to have their way because

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<v Speaker 1>they say the public wants it, trying to scam the

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<v Speaker 1>Constitution for a third term, claiming the nation voted for Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>and if Trump wants national suicide, then the nation has

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<v Speaker 1>already pre approved national suicide. If they can do this crap,

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<v Speaker 1>so can we. Because I want Republican congressmen and senators

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<v Speaker 1>and state and city and village officials to understand right

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<v Speaker 1>now that if we put it to a vote tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and nearly all of them would be out on

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<v Speaker 1>their asses out of office by Wednesday. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to wait for the midterms and for this involuntary harakiri

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<v Speaker 1>to be complete, for the pressure to begin to mount

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<v Speaker 1>on Trump's prostitutes, who continue to insist the Emperor does

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<v Speaker 1>too have clothes and that the insane worm dictator is

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<v Speaker 1>actually a rational human being, and what someone called economic

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<v Speaker 1>Munchausen by proxy, in which you make a nation sick

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<v Speaker 1>in order to claim to be healing a sick nation,

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<v Speaker 1>is somehow survivable. I don't want to wait. I want

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Johnson and Steve Scalise and the House congressman with

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<v Speaker 1>the stronger instincts towards self preservation to understand and today

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<v Speaker 1>that in a parliamentary system, their public careers would already

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<v Speaker 1>be dead, That they are shackled to a corpse in

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<v Speaker 1>the White House, that there is no master plan, that

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<v Speaker 1>the country knows Trump is not playing some long game,

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<v Speaker 1>that the country suddenly understands, there is no Trump derangement syndrome,

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<v Speaker 1>only Trump is deranged syndrome. That the country knows. This

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<v Speaker 1>is an unmitigated, irredeemable by partisan national disaster, and Trump

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<v Speaker 1>caused it deliberately. And their only chance is for them,

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<v Speaker 1>the Republicans, to use the powers they have right now,

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<v Speaker 1>to extract him from office, or at minimum new to

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<v Speaker 1>him where he stands and pull all his powers from him,

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<v Speaker 1>or they, the Republicans, will perish from the earth. I

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<v Speaker 1>want them to know that in five months it's gone

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<v Speaker 1>from their futures, depending on enslaving themselves to Trump, to

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<v Speaker 1>their futures, depending on them removing him from office immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>Them the GOP, the MAGA cult, not Trump but his assholes.

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<v Speaker 1>They are the Roman senators, and metaphorically he is Julius

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<v Speaker 1>Caesar figuratively speaking, obviously, I want to see polling on

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<v Speaker 1>a presidential recall vote. I want one of these moribund, terrified,

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<v Speaker 1>formerly journalistic media outlets to ask voters of every possible

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<v Speaker 1>flavor if the election were rerun today, would you vote

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<v Speaker 1>for Trump or a Democrat? Or would you vote for

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<v Speaker 1>Trump or another Republican? Or would you vote for Trump

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<v Speaker 1>or a fairly intelligent farm animal. I want the poster

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<v Speaker 1>to ask, would you support a special emergency recall vote

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<v Speaker 1>to potentially reverse the outcome of the twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>presidential election. I want them to ask, would you describe

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<v Speaker 1>the current financial panic and the upcoming tsunami of inflation

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<v Speaker 1>and unemployment as a national emergency? I want them to ask,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think Donald Trump has taken leave of his senses?

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<v Speaker 1>I want them to ask, do you think Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is mentally fit to run this country? I want them

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<v Speaker 1>to ask, do you think Donald Trump is acting to

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<v Speaker 1>destroy the United States on behalf of a foreign country.

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<v Speaker 1>I want them to ask, do you think it is

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<v Speaker 1>necessary to act once and only once outside the constitution?

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<v Speaker 1>If necessary to save the United States of America from

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump? I want them to ask, if the midterm

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<v Speaker 1>elections for the Senate and the House, where tomorrow would

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<v Speaker 1>you vote Republican or Democrat. Let's see where we really

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<v Speaker 1>stand right now, because we're not going to have a

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<v Speaker 1>presidential recall vote. We're not going to rerun the election.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to just this once act outside the constitution.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not Republicans, but the Republicans without whose support Trump

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<v Speaker 1>could not remain in office past noon need to see

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<v Speaker 1>these numbers, need to see that they're elected offices, and

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<v Speaker 1>their hopes for reelection, and their hopes for higher office,

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<v Speaker 1>and their hopes for post governmental money are flying out

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<v Speaker 1>to the effing window because Trump wants to make America

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen ninety four again. Because Trump doesn't know what he's doing,

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<v Speaker 1>because Trump's mind is shattered beyond repair, shattered beyond rational thought.

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<v Speaker 1>They need to see Trump has summoned doomsday, and the

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<v Speaker 1>sooner they stick him with the bill for it, the

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<v Speaker 1>better chance they have of surviving it, because this is

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<v Speaker 1>neither as hopeless nor as complicated as it looks. A

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<v Speaker 1>quarter of Republicans in the House and Sented are full

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<v Speaker 1>kool aid drinkers. A quarter have doubts. The other half no,

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<v Speaker 1>damn well, he's nuts. They've always known he's nuts. They've

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<v Speaker 1>just enjoyed the power and the money and the popularity

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<v Speaker 1>too much to ever dream of letting it go unless

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<v Speaker 1>the choice became he goes or they go. In which

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<v Speaker 1>case he goes, they could force him to resign, more

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<v Speaker 1>likely to simply flee the country, to leave office and

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<v Speaker 1>avoid prison, avoid prison, flee the country, then resign. They

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<v Speaker 1>could force him to resign by making it clear that

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<v Speaker 1>after his travesty of a mockery of a sham, of

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<v Speaker 1>a mockery of two mockeries of a sham, there are

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<v Speaker 1>now enough Republican votes to impeach him in the House

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<v Speaker 1>and convict him in the Senate. They could force him

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<v Speaker 1>out by simply introducing the measure to impeach themselves. Because

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<v Speaker 1>there are two truths about American politics. Everything seems permanent

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<v Speaker 1>and isn't, and the other one is, and it's true

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<v Speaker 1>in this century. It was true last century. It's true

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<v Speaker 1>the century before that. It's that there are always lots

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<v Speaker 1>of politicians who will risk themselves for their leader, as

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<v Speaker 1>long as he demands, they do so one at a time,

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<v Speaker 1>or as long as the nation's business demands, they do

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<v Speaker 1>so one at a time. But there is no group

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<v Speaker 1>of politicians who will collectively risk themselves for their leader.

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<v Speaker 1>When the choices are, they go down with him, or

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<v Speaker 1>he goes down all by himself.

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<v Speaker 2>It is always, always, always.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes down by himself. Damn shame. He had a

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<v Speaker 1>great run. Where are we going to lunch? You don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe me? Ask Richard Nixon. The Democrats didn't finish Richard Nixon.

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<v Speaker 1>Republican Senate and House leadership finished Richard Nixon. Hell, ask

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<v Speaker 1>Abraham Lincoln. Two months before the eighteen sixty four presidential election,

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<v Speaker 1>the referendum on the future of the Civil War, Republican

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<v Speaker 1>leaders were trying to figure out how to remove Lincoln

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<v Speaker 1>from the ballot to two months because he was clearly

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<v Speaker 1>going to lose to McClellan in the election, and McClellan

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<v Speaker 1>was going to surrender days before Sherman took Atlanta. This

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<v Speaker 1>was seven months before Robert E. Lee surrendered the South,

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<v Speaker 1>seven months before. They were going to win the war,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were going to kick Lincoln to the curb. Oh, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we got it, We got Atlanta. Okay, never mind, not

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<v Speaker 1>enough examples. Try other places. The British Conservatives were the

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<v Speaker 1>ones who knifed Margaret Thatcher, not the Liberals christ They

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<v Speaker 1>knifed David Cameron, then Teresa May, then Boris Johnson, then

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<v Speaker 1>Liz trust All while they were Prime Minister. In the

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<v Speaker 1>last fifteen years, Trump has an iron grip on MAGA,

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<v Speaker 1>on the Republican Party, on the House majority, on the

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<v Speaker 1>Senate majority, on the nation U untill eight maybe ten

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans in the House decide Trump is going to destroy

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<v Speaker 1>them personally, and they get together and they go, let's

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<v Speaker 1>not get destroyed personally until fourteen count them, fourteen Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>in the Senate decide Trump is going to destroy them personally.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's iron grip is at its largest exactly twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>self interested, amorl disloyal Republicans wide twenty four and trust

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<v Speaker 1>me at least twenty four. House and Senate Republicans have

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<v Speaker 1>always hated Trump's guts and right now at least twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four House and Senate Republicans, probably closer to two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and four of them hate Trump's guts. So I want

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<v Speaker 1>to see polling numbers on a presidential recall vote? Am

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<v Speaker 1>I expecting to see polding numbers on a presidential recall

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<v Speaker 1>vote commissioned by ABC, by cowering CNN, by MSNVC more

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<v Speaker 1>unlikely still commissioned by some aspect of the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not. I mean, who listens to me? I

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<v Speaker 1>am right with surprising frequency, but who listens to me?

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<v Speaker 1>On the other hand, I have been pounding for weeks

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of a shadow Democratic Cabinet and a weekly

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<v Speaker 1>news conference every Sunday morning at eight am, which steals

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<v Speaker 1>the agenda for the Sunday morning news shows for all

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<v Speaker 1>of local television news all day Sunday, which steals the

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<v Speaker 1>news agenda for almost all of media for at least

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<v Speaker 1>part of Monday. And what did we get? The new

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<v Speaker 1>DNC chair Ken Martin announced the People's Cabinet to provide

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<v Speaker 1>stuff with which to hit the trumpests in the groin.

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<v Speaker 1>It still sounds a little diffuse to me. He's going

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<v Speaker 1>to have experts and random press conferences and data and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that you at home? Can you I want prominent,

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<v Speaker 1>popular young Democrats in front of microphones outdoors every Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>raising hell but the people's cabinet. It's a start, do

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Ken Martin? I mean, tell him about polling

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<v Speaker 1>on a presidential recall vote and the impact symbolic at

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<v Speaker 1>least that a large number like seventy percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>public wanting a new vote or or forty seven percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the public wanting a new vote might have on

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<v Speaker 1>current events, namely our twenty four Republicans. I mean, for months,

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<v Speaker 1>I have been putting out apbs on Barack Obama, and

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<v Speaker 1>what happened? He emerged. He did a Q and A

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<v Speaker 1>at Hamilton College and not only spewed facts, spilled teas

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<v Speaker 1>of infinite variety, but he underscored why he is an essential,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the essential messenger right now, even if it still

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem clear to him that he needs to get

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<v Speaker 1>out there at minimum every two weeks and he has

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<v Speaker 1>to stop avoiding calling Trump out by name. But this

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<v Speaker 1>message delivered this way is quietly, concisely, magnetically, brilliantly in inspirational.

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<v Speaker 1>Just sit for two minutes and listen.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine if I had done any of this. Let me just,

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<v Speaker 3>I just, I just want to be clear about this.

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<v Speaker 2>It may imagine that imagine if I.

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<v Speaker 3>Had pulled Fox News's credentials from the White House Press Court.

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<v Speaker 3>You're laughing, but no, that this is what's happening. It

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<v Speaker 3>may imagine if I had said to law firms that

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<v Speaker 3>were representing parties that were upset with policies my administration

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<v Speaker 3>had initiated that you will not be allowed into government buildings.

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<v Speaker 3>We will punish you economically for decent from the Affordable

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<v Speaker 3>caret or the Around Deal. We will ferret out students

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<v Speaker 3>who protest against my policies. It's unimaginable that the same

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<v Speaker 3>parties that are silent now would have tolerated behavior like

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<v Speaker 3>that for me or a whole bunch of my predecessors.

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<v Speaker 3>So and I say this. I say this not on

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<v Speaker 3>a partisan basis. This has to do with something more ruscious,

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<v Speaker 3>which is who are we as a country and what

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<v Speaker 3>values do we stand for?

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<v Speaker 1>Now you know why he got elected twice. Additionally, very

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<v Speaker 1>matter of factly, President Obama noted that the divide in

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party stick to the kitchen table issues, no,

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<v Speaker 1>stick to the democracy issues. They're the same issue. It's

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<v Speaker 1>one thing without democracy. Trump sets tariffs, and tariffs set

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<v Speaker 1>the prices of what's at your kitchen table. The cost

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<v Speaker 1>of everything is going up under fascism. Again, Obama remains

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<v Speaker 1>the best political speaker in this country. Clinton was once better,

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<v Speaker 1>but age has and I mean this literally hurt his

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<v Speaker 1>instrument and as an unavoidable aside for which I apologize.

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<v Speaker 1>Barack Obama's first political proto speech was also in New

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<v Speaker 1>York State at my high school, the one Will Bunch

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<v Speaker 1>and Chris Berman and I went to years earlier, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety one, at the behest of the history teacher

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<v Speaker 1>who told me on graduation day the sportscasting thing was nice,

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<v Speaker 1>but someday I would wind up in politics, covering it

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<v Speaker 1>or running in it. I was sixteen. I laughed at him.

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<v Speaker 1>His name was Walter Schneller, and Walter was right about

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<v Speaker 1>me and more importantly about Obama. As he put him

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<v Speaker 1>on the train in Tarrytown, New York, he said, have

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<v Speaker 1>you considered running for office? Now? Back to the point,

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<v Speaker 1>put all these ideas together, the shadow cabinet, the Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>morning news agenda, setting press conference, and having the speaker

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<v Speaker 1>at it be at least once in a while Barack

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<v Speaker 1>Obama armed with polling on a presidential recall vote and

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<v Speaker 1>large protests like this past weekend, at least every other weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Give Ken Martin my email or just a link to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. Christ Why is this such elabyrinth? Wouldn't it

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<v Speaker 1>have been nice to have had Obama doing news conference

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday morning instead of an event at Hamilton College yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>morning Sunday morning, and forced Trump's parade of idiots on

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<v Speaker 1>the Sunday shows to try to follow that, to have

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<v Speaker 1>the headlines now not be about disproving these awful, imbecilic

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<v Speaker 1>liars and their awful, imbecilic lies, but how awful and

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<v Speaker 1>imbecilic they sounded compared to Obama. Also that president will

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<v Speaker 1>recall vote. Dato. That's a stunner, isn't it? Steve Cornecki. Ordinarily,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you were Trump, you would keep radio silence

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<v Speaker 1>after a week in which you imposed tariffs based on

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<v Speaker 1>a formula that you dreamt up. That is basically the

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<v Speaker 1>ratio of our trade deficit with each country and that

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<v Speaker 1>country's total exports to this country, divided by two. In

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<v Speaker 1>Layman's terms, this is the equivalent of how much of

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<v Speaker 1>your money you have lost to one guy when you

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<v Speaker 1>play poker and he's better than you, are, divided by

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<v Speaker 1>how much money he actually won from you, divided by

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<v Speaker 1>two oh, and then you announce that number is the

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<v Speaker 1>cheated by winning. Ordinarily, after a week like that, you

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<v Speaker 1>keep radio silence after not only making up an unbelievably

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<v Speaker 1>bullshit excuse for how Jeffrey Goldberg of the Atlanta got

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<v Speaker 1>added to the illegal signal chat about bombing Yemen. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just read this explanation the way Hugo Lowell scooped it

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<v Speaker 1>in The Guardian. Hugo's got it right, but I still

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<v Speaker 1>think they just made it up. Are you ready you

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<v Speaker 1>have a drink nearby, because if you don't need alcohol

0:20:03.835 --> 0:20:05.395
<v Speaker 1>after this, at least you I want a drink so

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<v Speaker 1>you can do a spit take quote. According to three

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<v Speaker 1>people briefed on the internal investigation, Goldberg had emailed the

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<v Speaker 1>campaign about a story that criticized Trump for his attitude

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<v Speaker 1>towards wounded service members. To push back against the story,

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<v Speaker 1>the campaign enlisted the help of Mike Waltz, their national

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<v Speaker 1>security surrogate. Goldberg's email was forwarded to then Trump's spokesperson

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Hughes, who then copied and pasted the content of

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<v Speaker 1>the email, including the signature block with Goldberg's phone number,

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<v Speaker 1>into a text message that he sent to Waltz so

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<v Speaker 1>that he could be briefed on the forthcoming story. Waltz

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<v Speaker 1>did not ultimately call Goldberg, the people said, but in

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<v Speaker 1>an extraordinary twist, inadvertently ended up saving Goldberg's number in

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<v Speaker 1>his iPhone under the contact card for Hughes, now the

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<v Speaker 1>spokesperson for the National Security COUNCILOT. It took them thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>days to make that up. And you don't think they're

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<v Speaker 1>vulnerable to pressure from twenty four Republicans who would become

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<v Speaker 1>convinced that their careers depend on Trump leaving the White House.

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<v Speaker 1>Day seven, you got anything.

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<v Speaker 2>No on anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Day nine, well, I may have something, something about something

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<v Speaker 1>about cutting and pasting. I'll put a team on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirteen days to make that up. The entire Cuban missile

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<v Speaker 1>crisis took thirteen days. We nearly blew up the world,

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<v Speaker 1>then steered it all back from the edge of doomsday

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<v Speaker 1>in thirteen days. And that's how long it took them

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<v Speaker 1>to make that bullshit up. Ordinarily, after that, you'd keep

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<v Speaker 1>radio silence, You keep all of your people off TV.

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<v Speaker 1>You deny there was an attorney general. Sorry, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have one. No, I went out with that dodge stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Ordinarily you'd keep radio silence. After you crashed the stock

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<v Speaker 1>market and the economy and then reposted a video saying

0:22:16.795 --> 0:22:22.675
<v Speaker 1>you crashed the stock market intentionally, leaving Janine Piro to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really care about my four oh one K

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<v Speaker 1>today you know why I believe in this man, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course in wine, and you left Benny Johnson to

0:22:35.475 --> 0:22:39.715
<v Speaker 1>say losing money needs nothing digital ones and zeros. In

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<v Speaker 1>the end, you won't miss any of it. Losing your

0:22:42.155 --> 0:22:44.395
<v Speaker 1>country costs you everything. You'll never get that back. Your

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<v Speaker 1>kids will be slaved to foreign powers who hate us.

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<v Speaker 1>Without America First policies, we become slaves. Fight this after

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<v Speaker 1>promising Trump would make all his suckers rich, and Benny

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to worry about money. There's always Russia. This

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<v Speaker 1>reminds me of the famous line from the late great

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<v Speaker 1>comic genius Ernie Cooe. The money means nothing. The money

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<v Speaker 1>is nothing. Therefore the money means nothing. Ordinarily, after a

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<v Speaker 1>week like that, you'd shut the f up and shut

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<v Speaker 1>your cabinet, the f up, and not parade your dumbest

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<v Speaker 1>people in front of even the milk toast cowering Sunday shows,

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<v Speaker 1>not trumpy. I really can't decide who was dumbest. On Fox,

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<v Speaker 1>Pam Bondy, who is actually the Attorney General? When she's

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<v Speaker 1>so legally illiterate, she makes Alena Habba sound like Oliver

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<v Speaker 1>fing Wendell Holmes interviewer, do you believe there's a method

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<v Speaker 1>by which Trump could seek a third term? Bondy? I

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<v Speaker 1>wish we could have him for twenty years as our president,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe ninety eight, but I think he's going to be finished,

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<v Speaker 1>probably after this term. Interviewer, Probably, Bondy, we'd have to

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<v Speaker 1>look at the constitution. You do that, Pam, go look

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<v Speaker 1>for of the Constitution, and while you're at it, look

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<v Speaker 1>for a copy of your law degree, because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe that exists either, at least you don't have one.

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<v Speaker 1>On CNN, the Agriculture Secretary Brook Rollins interviewer, you're imposing

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<v Speaker 1>a ten percent charge on the Herd and MacDonald Islands.

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<v Speaker 1>They have zero human inhabitants. Why are you putting tariffs

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<v Speaker 1>on islands that are entirely populated by Penguins. Brook Rollins,

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, Jake, whatever, listen. The people that are leading

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<v Speaker 1>this are serious, intentional, patriotic, the smartest people I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>worked with. When the nineteen ninety two Cotton Bowl, Queen

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<v Speaker 1>brook Rollins tells you that these are the most serious, intentional, patriotic,

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<v Speaker 1>smartest people she's ever worked with, you do realize, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>she's including the likes of Lou Holtz and George W. Bush.

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<v Speaker 1>Since we're invoking the sweeping stupidity of college football. Theres

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<v Speaker 1>coach Tommy Tubberville, still a senator on Fox. Tommy also

0:25:10.795 --> 0:25:16.435
<v Speaker 1>believes in brownies and elves. Tubberville quote, we have entire

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<v Speaker 1>men's teams crosses country now that are turning trans. Women's

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<v Speaker 1>teams are turning trans. That's gonna be a situation where

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna pick up speed because these woke globalists are

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<v Speaker 1>pushing these kids. Tommy actually does very well, considering he

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<v Speaker 1>was born without a brain. There are, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>an estimated nine transgendered athletes in American college sports. Nine.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course you remember when my eye doctor, Rene

0:25:51.555 --> 0:25:54.195
<v Speaker 1>Richards transitioned and played in the US Open starting in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy seven, and won twenty seven consecutive US women's titles,

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<v Speaker 1>and she destroyed the sport of women's tennis. And nobody

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<v Speaker 1>ever heard of, say Chris Evert or Martinez Averertalova, and

0:26:03.355 --> 0:26:05.435
<v Speaker 1>they don't play women's tennis any more. Oh right, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember any of that because it didn't happen, because

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<v Speaker 1>there are nine transgendered college athletes in this country in

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<v Speaker 1>high school. The only data we have is from Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>where they say they have won. They might have a

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<v Speaker 1>second whole teams is women is changing into what would

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<v Speaker 1>the other one be? Man? Man could be changing into

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<v Speaker 1>the third gender? Tubberville on NBC. Scott besson the Secretary

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<v Speaker 1>of Treasury and if ever there was actually a reason

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<v Speaker 1>to go check if the gold is still at Fort Knox,

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Bessant, is it? Interviewer? The markets lost more than

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<v Speaker 1>six trillion dollars in value? Was this disruption always part

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<v Speaker 1>of the plan? Bessent. We had record volume on Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>and everything is working very smoothly, So the American people

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<v Speaker 1>can take great comfort in that record volume. Oh and

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<v Speaker 1>the machine didn't break great like the day of the

0:27:10.475 --> 0:27:15.435
<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty nine crash. Well, it's every moment of it

0:27:15.475 --> 0:27:18.355
<v Speaker 1>as a disaster. But look, the machine is just ticking

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<v Speaker 1>out like nobody's business, those humming machines. Besson actually gets

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<v Speaker 1>two entries. He was also asked Trump promised he was

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<v Speaker 1>going to improve the economy starting on day one. What

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<v Speaker 1>is your message to Americans who want to retire right

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<v Speaker 1>now and have just seen their lifetime savings drop significantly?

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<v Speaker 1>Bessen't Most Americans who have put away for years in

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<v Speaker 1>their savings account don't look at the day to day

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<v Speaker 1>fluctuations of what's happening. My heroes, Bob Elliott and Ray

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<v Speaker 1>Goulding did a sketch that I heard first when I

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<v Speaker 1>was fourteen fifteen years old, about a paper clip factory

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere in Ohio, of all places. Their news reporter Wallybloo

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<v Speaker 1>played by Bob, is interviewing the owner of the place,

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<v Speaker 1>the handmade paper clip factory. Literally, they were handmade paper clips,

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<v Speaker 1>cut and bent into shape by hand. Ray, as the

0:28:11.515 --> 0:28:15.675
<v Speaker 1>owner explains, how's that possible, Blue asks they must cost

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<v Speaker 1>a fortune handmade. No, the owner says, they're ten cents

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<v Speaker 1>a box. Fob Akron, we just signed a ninety nine

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<v Speaker 1>year sweetheart deal with our union. We pay our employees

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<v Speaker 1>eight cents a week. Blue screams eight cents a week?

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<v Speaker 1>How do your people live on eight cents a week?

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<v Speaker 1>And the owner says, mister Blue, we don't pry into

0:28:39.315 --> 0:28:45.755
<v Speaker 1>the private lies of our employees. We don't pry into

0:28:45.755 --> 0:28:49.955
<v Speaker 1>the private lives of our employees. People don't have any

0:28:49.995 --> 0:28:52.915
<v Speaker 1>money in their checking account and savings account. They don't

0:28:52.955 --> 0:28:55.515
<v Speaker 1>know that. They don't look day to day fluctuations in

0:28:55.555 --> 0:29:03.395
<v Speaker 1>their account. To that point, possibly the dumbest person in

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<v Speaker 1>any cabinet ever, excluding Trump himself obviously on CBS, Commerce

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<v Speaker 1>Secretary Howard Lutnik, or as he has been unfortunately renamed

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<v Speaker 1>Howard nut Lick Lutnick, you realize tillions of dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>factories are going to be built in America. That's huge, GDP.

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<v Speaker 1>The factories being built in America are huge, interviewer. That

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<v Speaker 1>takes years. And you said that robots are going to

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<v Speaker 1>fill those jobs. So those aren't union worker jobs, Lutnick,

0:29:34.995 --> 0:29:37.635
<v Speaker 1>it's automated factories. The key is who is going to

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<v Speaker 1>build and operate the factories, interviewer, You said robots, Lutnik,

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<v Speaker 1>the army of millions and millions of human beings screwing

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<v Speaker 1>in little screws to make iPhones. That kind of thing

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<v Speaker 1>is going to come to America unquote oh child labor,

0:30:05.515 --> 0:30:09.715
<v Speaker 1>which they are moving to make legal in Florida, where

0:30:09.755 --> 0:30:12.475
<v Speaker 1>they can screw in little screws to make iPhones better

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<v Speaker 1>if you have little hands screwing in little screws ten

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<v Speaker 1>cents of box. Fob Ackron, the Bob and Ray sketch

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<v Speaker 1>had another punchline. When pressed on the living conditions of

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<v Speaker 1>his staff, the head of the handmade paper clip factory

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<v Speaker 1>explained that it was his understanding that most of his

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<v Speaker 1>employees wore old newspapers wrapped around their feet instead of shoes,

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<v Speaker 1>and that they lived in caves on the outskirts of town.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty four Republicans I want pulling on a presidential we

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<v Speaker 1>call vote. Also of interest on this whole new episode,

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<v Speaker 1>the entire history of who was the first person an

0:31:04.915 --> 0:31:10.075
<v Speaker 1>ever to be photographed giving the cameraman the finger now

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<v Speaker 1>must be rewritten after discoveries from this weekend past and no,

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<v Speaker 1>sorry sports fans, Alexander Ovechkin did not set the all

0:31:24.395 --> 0:31:26.915
<v Speaker 1>time record for most goals scored in Big League hockey,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will answer an additional question from politics. The

0:31:30.275 --> 0:31:38.755
<v Speaker 1>question is Chuck Todd, Why that's next? This Discountdown? This

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<v Speaker 1>is Countdown with Keith Oldwoman still ahead in this all

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<v Speaker 1>new edition of Countdown now has more goals than Gretzky.

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<v Speaker 1>But contrary to what you've heard, that does not mean

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<v Speaker 1>Ovechkin now has the record for the most goals scored.

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<v Speaker 1>I will explain and the history of the flipped finger

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<v Speaker 1>has been entirely rewritten. And I received a question about

0:32:26.555 --> 0:32:29.075
<v Speaker 1>Chuck Todd, and I want to answer it at length.

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<v Speaker 1>The question is basically, why first believe it or not?

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<v Speaker 1>There's still more new idiots to talk about. The roundup

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<v Speaker 1>of the misgrants, morons and Dunning Kruger effects specimens who

0:32:40.835 --> 0:32:46.155
<v Speaker 1>constitute the latest other worst persons in the world. Here

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<v Speaker 1>are the nominees the Bronze Worse Baseball's Pittsburgh Pirates. The

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<v Speaker 1>new season is upon us, and the little murders therein

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<v Speaker 1>are becoming visible, such as the Pirates ballpark, at which

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<v Speaker 1>they have understandably positioned as a shrine to the late

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<v Speaker 1>superstar Roverto Clemente, whose death during a humanitarian mission to

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<v Speaker 1>an earthquake in Icaragua is now fifty two years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>The Pirates have dozens of tributes to Clemente, including a

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<v Speaker 1>statue there's a bridge to the ballpark named after him,

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<v Speaker 1>but none were as prominent, at least to the television

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<v Speaker 1>audience for the games, than the official logo showing Clemente's

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<v Speaker 1>retired uniform number twenty one that rests high up on

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<v Speaker 1>the wall in the right field corner, just next to

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<v Speaker 1>the foul pole. If the ball was hit to right field,

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<v Speaker 1>you at home saw the Clemente logo, Well, it did

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<v Speaker 1>rest high up on that wall in the right field corner.

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<v Speaker 1>A fan noticed Saturday and posted a photo of that

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<v Speaker 1>corner at the Pirates ballpark, and the Clemente uniform number

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<v Speaker 1>plaque is gone, replaced by a very large advertisement for Celtze.

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<v Speaker 1>This was retweeted by Roberto Clemente Junior, who added one

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<v Speaker 1>word wow. The Pirates have confirmed that the Clemente tribute

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<v Speaker 1>had been taken down and the Seltzer ad put up

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<v Speaker 1>in its place, but they said the plaque had only

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<v Speaker 1>been temporary. It was only supposed to be there for

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<v Speaker 1>a short period of time before being taken down the

0:34:20.835 --> 0:34:25.195
<v Speaker 1>last three years, when evidently they couldn't sell the ad

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<v Speaker 1>space I guess. The pirates proceeded to list every tribute

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<v Speaker 1>to Clemente they did not take down and replace with

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<v Speaker 1>an ad for Celtza, which, of course only underscored the

0:34:36.355 --> 0:34:39.555
<v Speaker 1>fact that, yes, they did take the most universally visible

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<v Speaker 1>tribute to Roberto Clemente down so they could sell the

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<v Speaker 1>space for an ad for a giant can of celtza. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they never told the Clemente family in advance. They found

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<v Speaker 1>out on Twitter runner up worser a MAGA influencer named

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<v Speaker 1>Blair White, as in Blair White Project, another one apparently

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<v Speaker 1>functioning without thumbs, with which she could google herself or

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<v Speaker 1>google something before humiliating herself in public, but won't. Musician

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<v Speaker 1>and author Michael Jalet observed the obvious foreign influence behind

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's self destructive tariffs. He tweeted, Russia isn't on Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>tariff list and repeated that sentence six times. That's the tweet.

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<v Speaker 1>White retweeted Jalat and added, we don't import anything from Russia,

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<v Speaker 1>repeating that sentence four times and then adding quote you're

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<v Speaker 1>a retard unquote. Ms White was quickly community noted because,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the Trump Office of the US Trade Representative

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump US Trade Representative's office. US exports to Russia

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<v Speaker 1>last year totaled five hundred and twenty six million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>US imports from Russia, which she says there is none,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact total two and a half billion dollars. Slight

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<v Speaker 1>difference in the number here he says none. Trump says

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half billion dollars. The punchline from the

0:36:09.435 --> 0:36:12.555
<v Speaker 1>woman who dropped an R bomb on somebody who was

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<v Speaker 1>right when she was wrong. She's transgender, she's maga transgender.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do I think they're going to make her life

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<v Speaker 1>more complicated? And that she should be nicer to those

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<v Speaker 1>of us who won't because that doesn't make a difference

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<v Speaker 1>to us. She is a moron, but the winner worst

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<v Speaker 1>why he's making the rare two segment appearance. Scott besn't

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<v Speaker 1>the Treasury secretary the maga guy who looks like he's

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<v Speaker 1>been hitting the face with a shovel. Basically he has

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<v Speaker 1>a flat face. He's the one happily responding to the

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<v Speaker 1>crisis by insisting this is the ideal time to cut

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<v Speaker 1>taxes on the rich. He wasn't supposed to say that

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<v Speaker 1>out loud. That's the whole point of this that's the

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<v Speaker 1>whole plan. That's the whole idea. They get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>taxes for the rich. That's why Trump wants it to

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<v Speaker 1>be the eighteen nineties again, and we're in any track.

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<v Speaker 1>Taxes made money, kept, all the damn money. That's all

0:37:06.315 --> 0:37:07.955
<v Speaker 1>he wants. That's all he wants before he dies. He

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<v Speaker 1>wants all the damn money. Politico reports that hours after,

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<v Speaker 1>Secretary Bessont added to his series of ridiculous statements by

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<v Speaker 1>insisting that the correct American response to tariff disaster twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five and terifflation was to quote by American. Seen in

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Besson's driveway and scene parked there from months, according

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<v Speaker 1>to neighbor, was a range Rover, which is manufactured mostly

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<v Speaker 1>in Britain by a company based in India. Treasury Secretary

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<v Speaker 1>Scott when I say buy American, I mean you should

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<v Speaker 1>buy American, not that I have to buy American. Two

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<v Speaker 1>Day's other worst person.

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<v Speaker 2>In the world.

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<v Speaker 4>This is Sports Senate. Wait check that not anymore. This

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<v Speaker 4>is Countdown with Keith Ulberman.

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<v Speaker 1>Still ahead on this all new edition of Countdown. The

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<v Speaker 1>answer to the question Chuck Todd first from the Sports

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<v Speaker 1>Balls Central Center newsdesk tonight Dateline, Washington on the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>first anniversary of the day the Washington Capitals won the

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<v Speaker 1>lottery for the first pick and the amateur draft in

0:38:51.755 --> 0:38:56.275
<v Speaker 1>which they selected him. Alexander Ovechkin broke Wayne Gretzky's goal

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<v Speaker 1>total of eight hundred and ninety four, scoring his eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and ninety fifth and a loss in which that

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<v Speaker 1>was the only goal for Washington and Gretzky, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>threw himself off another cliff. And oh, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Ovechkin did not set the record for most goals scored

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<v Speaker 1>in a big league career in hockey, no matter how

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<v Speaker 1>hard the National Hockey League and its partners are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to sell you on this idea so you will buy merchandise.

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<v Speaker 1>Gretzky first. When Ovechkin tied the mark Friday night in Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>Wayne Gretzky was there and he was shown on television

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<v Speaker 1>in a suite standing next to Popeye himself, Trump fixer,

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theorist, all around nut job FBI director in this

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<v Speaker 1>cheap horror film We're All in Cash Patel. The tying

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<v Speaker 1>of the eight hundred and ninety four total now became

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<v Speaker 1>Gretzky tied to Ovechkin, whose social media still shows imposing

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<v Speaker 1>with Putin, for whom he has campaigned, and Gretzky now

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<v Speaker 1>tied to Cash Patel. That's Gretzky, who three months ago

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<v Speaker 1>was still one of Canada's all time icons and now

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<v Speaker 1>flatley after his buddy Trump decided he's going to attack

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<v Speaker 1>Canada one way or the other. Gretzky is hated in Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>He attended Trump's victory party and inauguration event. He's been

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<v Speaker 1>wearing the hat, He's been playing the golf, he's been

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<v Speaker 1>distributing the kool aid. The depth of the heartbroken sense

0:40:21.315 --> 0:40:24.755
<v Speaker 1>of betrayal in Canada was already pretty much maxed out.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Canada had to watch as Gretzky's record was tied

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<v Speaker 1>while Gretzky was standing next to one of Trump's biggest hoares.

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<v Speaker 1>As Trump continues to threaten Canada with annexation, financial collapse,

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<v Speaker 1>and ultimately inevitably invasion. Patel added to this by tweeting

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<v Speaker 1>photos of himself with Gretzky and Ovechkin and the Washington

0:40:46.835 --> 0:40:50.195
<v Speaker 1>Capitol's team. Somehow they didn't get Putin in the photo.

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<v Speaker 1>Somehow they left Marshall Petan out of that shot anyway. Later,

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<v Speaker 1>one of Gretzky's most accomplished teammates, Hall of Famer Kevin Lowe,

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<v Speaker 1>posted about all this on Facebook, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>read it because it starts as if klow is going

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<v Speaker 1>to end up crying leave Wayner alone into a pillow.

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<v Speaker 1>But then it takes quite a turn. Kevin Lowe, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been heartbroken, disillusioned, frustrated, furious, even from the moment the

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<v Speaker 1>witch hunt towards Wayne Gretzky's name began. I've known Wayne

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<v Speaker 1>for forty five years. We lived together, we grew up together.

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<v Speaker 1>We put our asses on the line to help Canada

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<v Speaker 1>win its first Olympic hockey gold medal in fifty years.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say few people qualify to know Wayne as well

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<v Speaker 1>as I do. His character and loyalty to Canada have

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<v Speaker 1>always been and will always remain impeccable. One thing I

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<v Speaker 1>know for certain, Wayne may be the least political person alive,

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<v Speaker 1>and as you so astutely presented, shame on anyone who's

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<v Speaker 1>attempted to entrap him in Trump's maniacal orbit. Well, Sir,

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Lowe, you have unsuspected depth, and I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>about the term witch hunt. Gretzky brought this on himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody stitched the maga to his hair while he was

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<v Speaker 1>out cold. But Lowe leaves an intriguing question there. Shame

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<v Speaker 1>on anyone Who's attempted to entrap him in Trump's maniacal orbit.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone well, who would that be, who could have influence

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<v Speaker 1>sufficient over Gretzky to entrap him to in essence, sell

0:42:25.395 --> 0:42:29.155
<v Speaker 1>out his country that he loves so very well. Another

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<v Speaker 1>social media post may have our answer. This is from

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<v Speaker 1>right after the election. Congratulations mister President Donald J. Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Red heart, blue heart, American flag. You did it. You

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<v Speaker 1>deserved it, you earned every bit of it. The world

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<v Speaker 1>is a better place to have you as our leader.

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<v Speaker 1>Proud capital, p to be an American. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>being such a great friend. May God keep watching over you.

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<v Speaker 1>Red heart prayers, red heart love, our family to yours.

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<v Speaker 1>Space Explanation point Janet Jones Gretzky on Earth? Could any

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<v Speaker 1>of this be salvaged?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>What can be inferred as the least political person alive

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<v Speaker 1>being entrapped in Trump's maniacal orbit as missus Gretzky destroying

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<v Speaker 1>mister Gretzky, How can we pull out of this nosedive. Well, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>how about this. Wayne Gretzky does not hold the record

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<v Speaker 1>for the most goals scored, not anymore. Matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>he never did. And matter of fact, Alexandrovtchkin also does

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<v Speaker 1>not hold the record for the most goals scored. Ovechkin

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<v Speaker 1>has eight hundred and ninety five goals in the National

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<v Speaker 1>Hockey League, but for nearly all of the nineteen seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>the National Hockey League did not have a monopoly on

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<v Speaker 1>that sport. In the US and Canada, there was the

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<v Speaker 1>World Hockey Association, in which nineteen future Hockey Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>famers worked and played, including Mark Messier, Bobby Hall, Jacques Plantch,

0:44:01.475 --> 0:44:05.235
<v Speaker 1>Bernie Parrott, Frank Mahablich. And this was only seven worth

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<v Speaker 1>of hockey. They had two national television contracts. The National

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<v Speaker 1>Hockey League also does not recognize World Hockey Association statistics,

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<v Speaker 1>which is arrogant, egotistical, nonsense, and utterly inconsistent. The National

0:44:20.475 --> 0:44:23.755
<v Speaker 1>Hockey League recognized the stats from its earlier rival leagues

0:44:23.795 --> 0:44:28.035
<v Speaker 1>like the Pacific Coast Association, the Western Canada League. NHL

0:44:28.155 --> 0:44:33.555
<v Speaker 1>champions played PCCHA and WCHL champions for the Stanley Cup.

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<v Speaker 1>Lost three times in the Stanley Cup. To them, the

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<v Speaker 1>NHL recognizes Stanley Cups won by teams that never played

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<v Speaker 1>in the NHL recognizes the Stanley Cups its teams won

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<v Speaker 1>against those teams that never played in the NHL. But

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason, to this day, the WHA still angers

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<v Speaker 1>some NHL owners and old timers, especially people even older

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<v Speaker 1>than me, and so they decided the WHA never happened,

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<v Speaker 1>which is even stranger considering that in nineteen seventy nine,

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<v Speaker 1>the NHL, although they would not use the word merge,

0:45:14.075 --> 0:45:18.515
<v Speaker 1>absorbed four of the teams from the WHA, and whatever

0:45:18.555 --> 0:45:21.115
<v Speaker 1>anybody thought of the quality of play in the WHA,

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<v Speaker 1>four WHA franchises immediately joined the National Hockey League, and

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<v Speaker 1>in fact all four franchises are still in the National

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<v Speaker 1>Hockey League. The Quebec NORDIQ now the Colorado Avalanche, the

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<v Speaker 1>Winnipeg Jets, who moved to Phoenix and have been succeeded

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<v Speaker 1>by a new Winnipeg Jets franchise, the Hartford Whalers of

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<v Speaker 1>late lamented memory now the Carolina Hurricanes, and the Edmonton Oilers.

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<v Speaker 1>Those four x WHA franchises have won nine of the

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<v Speaker 1>forty four Stanley Cups since since the NHL took them

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<v Speaker 1>in took the WHA over. That's several times the average

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<v Speaker 1>number of Cups won by any four NHL franchises. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>and by the way, those Edmonton Oilers, they came into

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<v Speaker 1>the NHL with a player on their roster named Wayne Gretzky.

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<v Speaker 1>His goals for the NHL Edmonton Oilers they count towards

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<v Speaker 1>his total, but his forty six goals for the WHA

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<v Speaker 1>Edmonton Oilers the same team and the WHA Indianapolis Racers

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason, those goals do not count. In point

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<v Speaker 1>of fact, while Ovechkin has eight hundred and ninety five

0:46:27.195 --> 0:46:31.275
<v Speaker 1>career goals right now, Wayne Gretzky actually has nine hundred

0:46:31.315 --> 0:46:35.635
<v Speaker 1>and forty career goals. Well, where does that put us?

0:46:35.755 --> 0:46:37.995
<v Speaker 1>What good does that do us? Now we're back in

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<v Speaker 1>the situation where Gretzky's in the spotlight and everybody hates Wayne. Well,

0:46:43.075 --> 0:46:46.155
<v Speaker 1>neither of them has the most career goals. Gordy Howe

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<v Speaker 1>scored eight hundred and one goals in the National Hockey

0:46:48.915 --> 0:46:51.395
<v Speaker 1>League and one hundred and seventy four more in the WHA.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be carry on nine hundred and seventy five.

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<v Speaker 1>Gretzky is irrelevant to this discussion, and Ovechkin is still

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<v Speaker 1>eighty short of Gordy Howe's all time goals scored record,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is probably the best solution here for putin

0:47:12.235 --> 0:47:17.395
<v Speaker 1>for a Vechkin, for Gretzki, for Missus Gretzky for Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>The all time leading goal scorer is Gordie Howe. He

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<v Speaker 1>put the biscuit in the basket. Period dateline, Kingston, New York,

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<v Speaker 1>flipping the bird history has been discovered in a sale

0:47:36.955 --> 0:47:40.715
<v Speaker 1>of sports memorabilia there by Love of the Game auctions.

0:47:41.435 --> 0:47:44.155
<v Speaker 1>For decades, it's been acknowledged that Baseball Hall of Famer

0:47:44.235 --> 0:47:48.235
<v Speaker 1>Charles old Hoss Radbourne, the pitcher who won sixty of

0:47:48.315 --> 0:47:51.035
<v Speaker 1>his team's eighty four victories as they won the Pennant

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<v Speaker 1>and the first World Series in eighteen eighty four. Yes,

0:47:54.435 --> 0:47:57.355
<v Speaker 1>his wins above. Replacement that year was nineteen point two.

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<v Speaker 1>Old Hass was the first American probably the first human

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<v Speaker 1>to appear in a photograph giving the finger. It's plain

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<v Speaker 1>as day. He posed with his Boston teammates with the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Giants at the Polo Grounds on opening Day

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<v Speaker 1>in the year eighteen eighty six, about what fifty blocks

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<v Speaker 1>north of my home. And there it is top row,

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<v Speaker 1>far left, left hand, middle finger cradled on the left

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder of the teammate in the row ahead of him,

0:48:29.795 --> 0:48:36.355
<v Speaker 1>Tom Porman. We believe it is the finger high eternity.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Charlie, turns out, though, that is not the first

0:48:42.835 --> 0:48:45.675
<v Speaker 1>photo of anybody giving the one fingered salute to the photographer,

0:48:45.675 --> 0:48:50.355
<v Speaker 1>certainly not in sports auctioned Saturday Night, the eighteen eighty

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<v Speaker 1>two team photo of the Providence Grays, then a major

0:48:54.355 --> 0:48:57.315
<v Speaker 1>league team in the National League. There hea is Charlie

0:48:57.355 --> 0:49:01.115
<v Speaker 1>Old Hoss Radbourne again back row, second from the left,

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<v Speaker 1>his right hand at his belt and kind of kind

0:49:04.955 --> 0:49:08.355
<v Speaker 1>of hiding it sort of behind teammate George Wright and

0:49:08.435 --> 0:49:11.715
<v Speaker 1>pointed sort of sideways at team manager Harry Wright, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in profile, Radbourne is again giving the finger, only

0:49:17.155 --> 0:49:22.515
<v Speaker 1>with the other hand. He was ambedextrous baseball and obscene gesture.

0:49:22.595 --> 0:49:28.715
<v Speaker 1>History is thus rewritten. The finger dates it is believed

0:49:28.715 --> 0:49:32.955
<v Speaker 1>to ancient rome. The photographed finger now moves back four

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<v Speaker 1>years in time, at least from eighteen eighty six to

0:49:36.795 --> 0:49:41.435
<v Speaker 1>eighteen eighty two. The price of this priceless photo seventy

0:49:41.475 --> 0:49:44.915
<v Speaker 1>two hundred dollars the year he started forty one of

0:49:44.915 --> 0:49:47.795
<v Speaker 1>his team's last fifty one games and won thirty five

0:49:47.835 --> 0:49:51.155
<v Speaker 1>of them, plus both that were won in the World Series.

0:49:51.155 --> 0:49:55.115
<v Speaker 1>When they won the first World Series. Charles Oldhaus give

0:49:55.155 --> 0:49:59.195
<v Speaker 1>him the finger. Radbourne apparently reportedly made a maximum of

0:50:01.395 --> 0:50:06.355
<v Speaker 1>five thousand dollars. Photo of him is worth seventy two

0:50:06.435 --> 0:50:23.915
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars, which is why he's giving the finger. Finally,

0:50:23.955 --> 0:50:26.515
<v Speaker 1>on this all new edition of Countdown, things I promised

0:50:26.515 --> 0:50:28.955
<v Speaker 1>not to tell and has promised back to a topic

0:50:28.995 --> 0:50:31.515
<v Speaker 1>we addressed last week. I brought this up when news

0:50:31.555 --> 0:50:34.395
<v Speaker 1>came out that the former host of Meet the Press,

0:50:35.195 --> 0:50:40.675
<v Speaker 1>Chuck Todd, was bargaining with a bank and financiers to

0:50:40.955 --> 0:50:44.955
<v Speaker 1>spend up to two billion dollars to buy some sort

0:50:44.995 --> 0:50:49.355
<v Speaker 1>of media company, and I was thinking, who in the

0:50:49.515 --> 0:50:53.995
<v Speaker 1>hell would trust Chuck Todd with two dollars, let alone

0:50:54.115 --> 0:50:59.955
<v Speaker 1>two billion dollars. I've known him for nearly twenty years.

0:51:00.075 --> 0:51:03.195
<v Speaker 1>We were in fantasy sports leagues for half that time,

0:51:03.435 --> 0:51:06.355
<v Speaker 1>and we worked together at NBC News for the other

0:51:06.395 --> 0:51:10.395
<v Speaker 1>half of that time, and he was one of those

0:51:10.435 --> 0:51:13.715
<v Speaker 1>people who sort of descended in terms of how impressive

0:51:13.755 --> 0:51:16.035
<v Speaker 1>he was the more you got to know him, I'm

0:51:16.075 --> 0:51:18.915
<v Speaker 1>sure he would say the same thing about me. In

0:51:18.955 --> 0:51:22.395
<v Speaker 1>any event, I don't do an ask me anything or

0:51:22.435 --> 0:51:25.435
<v Speaker 1>any of that stuff. I don't solicit questions from the audience.

0:51:25.715 --> 0:51:27.795
<v Speaker 1>I don't ask you to tell me what you want

0:51:27.835 --> 0:51:32.115
<v Speaker 1>me to talk about, because well, if I needed you

0:51:32.435 --> 0:51:36.355
<v Speaker 1>to produce material for me, I would probably pay you

0:51:36.435 --> 0:51:39.435
<v Speaker 1>for it, or at least I should so. I feel

0:51:39.475 --> 0:51:43.235
<v Speaker 1>that my part of this equation is I come up

0:51:43.275 --> 0:51:46.955
<v Speaker 1>with the ideas, and you listen, and you listen to

0:51:46.995 --> 0:51:50.715
<v Speaker 1>the commercials, and the people who buy the commercials indirectly

0:51:50.755 --> 0:51:54.355
<v Speaker 1>pay me. I think that's fair. I don't have to

0:51:54.395 --> 0:51:57.915
<v Speaker 1>mention that you can usually skip through the commercials. In

0:51:57.995 --> 0:52:02.315
<v Speaker 1>any event, I don't do these amas. But occasionally a

0:52:02.355 --> 0:52:05.155
<v Speaker 1>friend or just a listener will get a question true

0:52:05.235 --> 0:52:07.275
<v Speaker 1>to me, and it occurs to me that I have

0:52:07.475 --> 0:52:11.715
<v Speaker 1>left out something extraordinarily interesting or apparently interesting to the

0:52:11.755 --> 0:52:15.195
<v Speaker 1>person at least who asked the question. Such a case

0:52:15.435 --> 0:52:19.875
<v Speaker 1>occurred last week when a friend asked about Chuck Todd,

0:52:20.195 --> 0:52:22.555
<v Speaker 1>not about Chuck Todd and the two billion dollars, not

0:52:22.635 --> 0:52:26.635
<v Speaker 1>about Chuck Todd, and putting the words in Alexandria Acasio

0:52:26.715 --> 0:52:31.075
<v Speaker 1>Cortes's mouth about the concentration camps. She said concentration camps.

0:52:31.235 --> 0:52:34.595
<v Speaker 1>He said Nazi concentration camps, quoting her when she never

0:52:34.595 --> 0:52:37.795
<v Speaker 1>said Nazi. And could not be convinced that there was

0:52:37.835 --> 0:52:41.675
<v Speaker 1>a difference or that he had done anything wrong. Not that,

0:52:41.715 --> 0:52:43.955
<v Speaker 1>and not the two billion dollars, and not what happened

0:52:43.955 --> 0:52:47.555
<v Speaker 1>to him at Meet the Press, and not the bad Combover. Well, no,

0:52:47.595 --> 0:52:49.795
<v Speaker 1>but nobody asked about the bad Combover, and I hadn't

0:52:49.835 --> 0:52:53.395
<v Speaker 1>mentioned the bad comb over till just now, So sorry.

0:52:53.755 --> 0:52:56.635
<v Speaker 1>This was something else and far more elemental. And it's

0:52:56.675 --> 0:53:00.115
<v Speaker 1>the kind of thing I just never think of, because

0:53:00.235 --> 0:53:03.275
<v Speaker 1>the number of times this question could have been asked

0:53:03.315 --> 0:53:06.075
<v Speaker 1>about somebody I worked with, it was probably by now

0:53:06.155 --> 0:53:08.675
<v Speaker 1>in the thousands. I'm sure it's been asked about me

0:53:08.795 --> 0:53:11.955
<v Speaker 1>many times. I've read it about myself. In fact, the

0:53:12.075 --> 0:53:16.235
<v Speaker 1>question was very simple, How in the hell did Chuck

0:53:16.315 --> 0:53:20.035
<v Speaker 1>Todd ever get into the position of being the host

0:53:20.195 --> 0:53:24.235
<v Speaker 1>of Meet the Press or anywhere else in which he

0:53:24.275 --> 0:53:28.075
<v Speaker 1>could have failed so spectacularly, and to be in a

0:53:28.115 --> 0:53:31.675
<v Speaker 1>position where he's so disconnected from reality that he would

0:53:31.715 --> 0:53:34.275
<v Speaker 1>think he could walk into a bank or some sort

0:53:34.315 --> 0:53:41.515
<v Speaker 1>of I don't know corporate investment fund or Trump's using

0:53:41.715 --> 0:53:44.715
<v Speaker 1>taxpayer money for no good reason. I don't know where

0:53:44.715 --> 0:53:46.595
<v Speaker 1>he thought he was going to get two billion dollars

0:53:46.675 --> 0:53:48.595
<v Speaker 1>or where he thinks he's going to get two billion dollars.

0:53:48.715 --> 0:53:51.395
<v Speaker 1>But the point was I was focused on the back

0:53:51.475 --> 0:53:54.715
<v Speaker 1>end of it. And my questioner asked that elemental one

0:53:54.755 --> 0:53:57.395
<v Speaker 1>that I didn't think about, and I thank him for

0:53:57.475 --> 0:54:02.995
<v Speaker 1>asking it. How did Chuck even get that far to

0:54:03.195 --> 0:54:09.075
<v Speaker 1>fail that bad? Well, sir, here's what I know between

0:54:09.155 --> 0:54:12.675
<v Speaker 1>what Tim Russert told me and what others told me

0:54:12.715 --> 0:54:17.195
<v Speaker 1>that Tim Russeer told them people whose confidence or in

0:54:17.355 --> 0:54:21.715
<v Speaker 1>whose confidence Tim was to a greater degree than he

0:54:21.875 --> 0:54:23.715
<v Speaker 1>was with me. We were friends, and he told me

0:54:23.795 --> 0:54:26.115
<v Speaker 1>lots of great stuff, But I'm sure he didn't tell

0:54:26.115 --> 0:54:28.075
<v Speaker 1>me everything, and he told other people things that he

0:54:28.115 --> 0:54:31.035
<v Speaker 1>I know he didn't tell me, and other things that

0:54:31.075 --> 0:54:33.395
<v Speaker 1>I've pieced together over the years, and other things that

0:54:33.435 --> 0:54:35.395
<v Speaker 1>people who didn't like Chuck just as much as I

0:54:35.395 --> 0:54:39.715
<v Speaker 1>didn't like Chuck told me. Here's what happened. There are,

0:54:39.915 --> 0:54:45.315
<v Speaker 1>as always in these situations, circumstances beyond anybody's control. That

0:54:45.355 --> 0:54:49.075
<v Speaker 1>played a huge factor. Tim Russeer told me once that

0:54:49.195 --> 0:54:52.155
<v Speaker 1>years and years ago, at the height of his earliest

0:54:52.195 --> 0:54:55.195
<v Speaker 1>success at NBC. And remember he was the host of

0:54:55.235 --> 0:55:00.235
<v Speaker 1>Meet the Press and the bureau chief of NBC News

0:55:00.275 --> 0:55:04.155
<v Speaker 1>in Washington. He ran the NBC News operation in Washington.

0:55:04.315 --> 0:55:06.875
<v Speaker 1>He did, I don't think put together the schedule for

0:55:06.955 --> 0:55:09.515
<v Speaker 1>the assignment editors, but I'm sure at some point he

0:55:09.595 --> 0:55:12.795
<v Speaker 1>was involved in those, maybe once a year. He did

0:55:12.875 --> 0:55:16.755
<v Speaker 1>bureaucratic work and then got on the phone and traded

0:55:16.835 --> 0:55:20.075
<v Speaker 1>horses with Republicans and Democrats, and met people for drinks

0:55:20.075 --> 0:55:22.235
<v Speaker 1>and tried to arrange guests, and then had to prep

0:55:22.555 --> 0:55:24.955
<v Speaker 1>to trip up the great and the not so great

0:55:24.995 --> 0:55:27.155
<v Speaker 1>on Meet the Press. And he did that job. No

0:55:27.195 --> 0:55:29.795
<v Speaker 1>matter what the criticisms might have been of him, he

0:55:29.835 --> 0:55:33.235
<v Speaker 1>did that job with surprising alacrity in a time in

0:55:33.275 --> 0:55:35.955
<v Speaker 1>which it began to vanish from the other networks, and

0:55:35.995 --> 0:55:39.395
<v Speaker 1>has not been seen since he died. He was also

0:55:39.475 --> 0:55:43.355
<v Speaker 1>a wonderful and engaging human being, and his death was

0:55:43.395 --> 0:55:47.755
<v Speaker 1>one of the great sadnesses of my life, truly, and

0:55:47.875 --> 0:55:50.315
<v Speaker 1>I responded to it the way I could, which was

0:55:50.355 --> 0:55:52.635
<v Speaker 1>to go on the air and relieve everybody else of

0:55:52.675 --> 0:55:56.835
<v Speaker 1>the responsibility of anchoring that night, And I do remember,

0:55:56.915 --> 0:56:00.075
<v Speaker 1>and we'll always remember that the guy who stayed up

0:56:00.115 --> 0:56:01.915
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the night in Paris and went

0:56:01.955 --> 0:56:04.355
<v Speaker 1>to a street corner in Paris, France where he was

0:56:04.395 --> 0:56:08.715
<v Speaker 1>on vacation to join us four or five different times,

0:56:08.755 --> 0:56:12.475
<v Speaker 1>as late as I believe four am local time Paris

0:56:12.475 --> 0:56:16.515
<v Speaker 1>that night, was Bob Schieffer, who was the host of

0:56:16.595 --> 0:56:19.715
<v Speaker 1>the CBS equivalent to meet the Press face the nation.

0:56:20.475 --> 0:56:24.635
<v Speaker 1>They were very close friends, and his respect for his

0:56:24.835 --> 0:56:29.595
<v Speaker 1>friend and colleague and adversary his competitor, Tim Russert strikes

0:56:29.635 --> 0:56:34.395
<v Speaker 1>me to this day in any event, at the beginning

0:56:34.555 --> 0:56:37.035
<v Speaker 1>when I first knew Tim in the fall of nineteen

0:56:37.115 --> 0:56:40.075
<v Speaker 1>ninety seven and the Lewinsky story broke at the beginning

0:56:40.075 --> 0:56:43.195
<v Speaker 1>of nineteen ninety eight, I got to know Tim in

0:56:43.315 --> 0:56:45.795
<v Speaker 1>bursts where I'd spend an hour with him and he

0:56:45.835 --> 0:56:48.835
<v Speaker 1>would tell me three days worth of information and days

0:56:48.915 --> 0:56:50.915
<v Speaker 1>later I'd be process it. Wait a minute, Russer told

0:56:50.955 --> 0:56:52.835
<v Speaker 1>me this, I forgot all about that. I have to

0:56:52.875 --> 0:56:57.795
<v Speaker 1>start taking notes. Russer told me that that long term

0:56:57.835 --> 0:57:00.235
<v Speaker 1>he had plans to He wasn't sure which he would

0:57:00.235 --> 0:57:02.475
<v Speaker 1>get rid of first, but at some point he could

0:57:02.555 --> 0:57:06.555
<v Speaker 1>not envision doing both. Meet the press and running the

0:57:06.675 --> 0:57:09.475
<v Speaker 1>NBC News bureau, and more than likely he would give

0:57:09.515 --> 0:57:12.755
<v Speaker 1>up the bureaucratic job first because frankly, it didn't pay

0:57:12.755 --> 0:57:15.035
<v Speaker 1>as well and it was not nearly as much fun,

0:57:15.395 --> 0:57:17.995
<v Speaker 1>although it did allow him to influence so many things

0:57:17.995 --> 0:57:22.435
<v Speaker 1>at NBC News. Without that influence, NBC News slowly and

0:57:22.475 --> 0:57:26.035
<v Speaker 1>then with greater rapidity went to hell in a handbasket,

0:57:26.075 --> 0:57:28.555
<v Speaker 1>into the condition that you see it in now. But

0:57:28.675 --> 0:57:31.035
<v Speaker 1>Russert said that he was looking and was always on

0:57:31.075 --> 0:57:34.235
<v Speaker 1>the lookout for somebody with that attention to detail who

0:57:34.395 --> 0:57:39.235
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed dealing with details like the assignment editors' schedules that

0:57:39.475 --> 0:57:42.075
<v Speaker 1>he had had once and then finally had to farm

0:57:42.075 --> 0:57:46.035
<v Speaker 1>out as his on air responsibilities got more and more important.

0:57:46.355 --> 0:57:49.475
<v Speaker 1>But being the NBC News bureau chief in Washington was

0:57:49.515 --> 0:57:52.355
<v Speaker 1>a pretty damn good job to begin with, let alone

0:57:52.435 --> 0:57:55.195
<v Speaker 1>also hosting Meet the Press, So he thought he could

0:57:55.195 --> 0:57:58.635
<v Speaker 1>probably find somebody just right, just nuts enough, was the

0:57:58.675 --> 0:58:01.875
<v Speaker 1>way he put it, and yet talented enough and responsible

0:58:01.955 --> 0:58:05.715
<v Speaker 1>enough to do the job. So I left NBC News

0:58:05.915 --> 0:58:09.475
<v Speaker 1>and MSNBC late in nineteen ninety eight and never finished

0:58:09.515 --> 0:58:12.435
<v Speaker 1>that conversation with him. But I came back with his

0:58:12.475 --> 0:58:14.995
<v Speaker 1>Blessing in two thousand and three, and he quickly got

0:58:14.995 --> 0:58:18.755
<v Speaker 1>involved again in my show on MSNBC whenever he could,

0:58:18.995 --> 0:58:21.795
<v Speaker 1>and stayed late and talked baseball with me in the

0:58:21.835 --> 0:58:24.555
<v Speaker 1>middle of the night after election nights in the primary

0:58:24.595 --> 0:58:26.715
<v Speaker 1>season of two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight,

0:58:26.795 --> 0:58:30.035
<v Speaker 1>just before his passing, and he told me, and had

0:58:30.075 --> 0:58:33.195
<v Speaker 1>told me, I guess in two thousand and three or four,

0:58:33.955 --> 0:58:36.555
<v Speaker 1>that they had found a guy who was kind of

0:58:36.755 --> 0:58:41.435
<v Speaker 1>number obsessed, a fellow who worked for a news outlet,

0:58:41.595 --> 0:58:44.395
<v Speaker 1>a small news outlet called I believe he was with

0:58:44.515 --> 0:58:46.955
<v Speaker 1>Hotline and then The Hill, or it might have been

0:58:46.955 --> 0:58:49.275
<v Speaker 1>the other way around. But this guy who was a

0:58:49.315 --> 0:58:52.835
<v Speaker 1>pretty good guest. He had a kind of funky Fu

0:58:52.915 --> 0:58:55.835
<v Speaker 1>Manchuw mustache going for him and thinning hair. But his

0:58:55.915 --> 0:58:58.595
<v Speaker 1>name was Chuck Todd, and he was pretty good on

0:58:58.635 --> 0:59:00.715
<v Speaker 1>the air. And would I try him out on Countdown?

0:59:00.835 --> 0:59:03.395
<v Speaker 1>They were putting him on Hardball with Chris Matthews a lot.

0:59:03.555 --> 0:59:06.835
<v Speaker 1>Would I try him out and report back to Tim

0:59:06.955 --> 0:59:09.195
<v Speaker 1>what I thought of him, both in terms of his

0:59:09.355 --> 0:59:12.915
<v Speaker 1>capability on the air and if I had that sense

0:59:13.035 --> 0:59:15.555
<v Speaker 1>of whether or not he might make a good executive

0:59:15.755 --> 0:59:18.155
<v Speaker 1>being somebody who had a lot of opinions on what

0:59:18.235 --> 0:59:21.235
<v Speaker 1>made a good executive and what made a bad executive,

0:59:22.115 --> 0:59:24.715
<v Speaker 1>And he said, should we hire him full time? Don't

0:59:24.715 --> 0:59:26.835
<v Speaker 1>give me the answer right away, just thinking about it.

0:59:26.875 --> 0:59:29.875
<v Speaker 1>In the next couple of years. At some point he

0:59:29.955 --> 0:59:31.675
<v Speaker 1>called me back and he said, it's time for me

0:59:31.715 --> 0:59:34.835
<v Speaker 1>to make a decision. What's your vote? And I said yes,

0:59:35.555 --> 0:59:38.475
<v Speaker 1>I said, I think he was at his maximum position.

0:59:38.595 --> 0:59:41.515
<v Speaker 1>I think that he might learn a little bit more television,

0:59:41.795 --> 0:59:44.795
<v Speaker 1>that he might be a good guest, and maybe he

0:59:44.835 --> 0:59:48.435
<v Speaker 1>could be a contributor doing things like exit polls or

0:59:48.635 --> 0:59:51.795
<v Speaker 1>number crunching on election nights, very much the role that

0:59:51.835 --> 0:59:56.475
<v Speaker 1>Steve Kornacki later assumed at NBC News and MSNBC after

0:59:56.635 --> 1:00:00.395
<v Speaker 1>By the way, I started him on television at Court TV,

1:00:00.595 --> 1:00:03.755
<v Speaker 1>excuse me, at Current TV and never got any credit

1:00:03.755 --> 1:00:06.275
<v Speaker 1>from that from him because he's a little strange guy,

1:00:06.315 --> 1:00:08.715
<v Speaker 1>and apparently he forgot that he was on the air

1:00:08.755 --> 1:00:11.795
<v Speaker 1>with us at Current TV, and I was negotiating with

1:00:11.915 --> 1:00:14.155
<v Speaker 1>him to join us full time when one day he

1:00:14.195 --> 1:00:16.275
<v Speaker 1>did not show up for work and it turned out

1:00:16.275 --> 1:00:18.995
<v Speaker 1>he'd signed a deal with MSNBC and never told us

1:00:18.995 --> 1:00:21.275
<v Speaker 1>he was even negotiating it, and did not call to

1:00:21.315 --> 1:00:23.395
<v Speaker 1>say I will not be there tonight because I've signed

1:00:23.395 --> 1:00:27.035
<v Speaker 1>a deal with MSNBC. Quizzed on this later, he did

1:00:27.075 --> 1:00:29.795
<v Speaker 1>not understand why this was a problem, as I said,

1:00:29.875 --> 1:00:34.515
<v Speaker 1>a very very strange guy. The more positive aspects of

1:00:34.515 --> 1:00:37.075
<v Speaker 1>this were the sort of thing I thought Chuck Todd

1:00:37.155 --> 1:00:39.435
<v Speaker 1>might be good at. And Tim said, I'm glad to

1:00:39.475 --> 1:00:41.955
<v Speaker 1>hear you say that. I've tried and tried, and I

1:00:42.115 --> 1:00:45.235
<v Speaker 1>just don't see him being a kind of host. I mean,

1:00:45.275 --> 1:00:47.915
<v Speaker 1>he might be able to host a daytime show on MSNBC.

1:00:48.315 --> 1:00:50.875
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we could do something politically that could get him involved.

1:00:50.915 --> 1:00:53.275
<v Speaker 1>That's what he wants to do. I think he's better

1:00:53.315 --> 1:00:55.835
<v Speaker 1>suited for what you're talking about. Three or four minutes

1:00:55.875 --> 1:00:58.515
<v Speaker 1>at a stretch and I said, okay, he said, what

1:00:58.515 --> 1:01:00.795
<v Speaker 1>do you think of him as an executive? I'm thinking

1:01:00.835 --> 1:01:04.155
<v Speaker 1>maybe he could be political director of NBC News, or

1:01:04.155 --> 1:01:06.395
<v Speaker 1>he could be something in which we make him kind

1:01:06.435 --> 1:01:09.235
<v Speaker 1>of a bureaucratic figure who then has that cachet on

1:01:09.315 --> 1:01:12.555
<v Speaker 1>the air of being the political director of NBC News,

1:01:12.555 --> 1:01:14.995
<v Speaker 1>who only's on the air, say a total of seventeen

1:01:14.995 --> 1:01:17.515
<v Speaker 1>minutes a month. I said, I think that might be

1:01:17.555 --> 1:01:20.475
<v Speaker 1>a good thing. He does seem to be very detail oriented,

1:01:20.515 --> 1:01:23.315
<v Speaker 1>a little too detail oriented. Sometimes we have to steer

1:01:23.355 --> 1:01:25.515
<v Speaker 1>him out of the weeds when he's on as a

1:01:25.515 --> 1:01:29.275
<v Speaker 1>guest to talk about the substantial things. The bigger pictures

1:01:29.315 --> 1:01:32.915
<v Speaker 1>back them off a little bit from the topicality of

1:01:32.955 --> 1:01:35.355
<v Speaker 1>the moment to what it means and why we're having

1:01:35.435 --> 1:01:38.155
<v Speaker 1>him on as a guest. So that's where we left it,

1:01:38.195 --> 1:01:43.075
<v Speaker 1>and that's where Tim Russert died. Originally, Russert had talked

1:01:43.115 --> 1:01:45.875
<v Speaker 1>about as a possible successor as the host of Meet

1:01:45.915 --> 1:01:50.235
<v Speaker 1>the Press, the NBC News chief White House correspondent in

1:01:50.275 --> 1:01:54.395
<v Speaker 1>the late nineties, David Bloom. To lead towards this, they

1:01:54.435 --> 1:01:57.195
<v Speaker 1>had moved David Bloom to New York as the weekend

1:01:57.235 --> 1:02:00.395
<v Speaker 1>host of Today, and then David Bloom in two thousand

1:02:00.395 --> 1:02:03.715
<v Speaker 1>and two went to Iraq in late two thousand and

1:02:03.795 --> 1:02:06.115
<v Speaker 1>two the beginning of two thousand and three, obviously with

1:02:06.155 --> 1:02:08.875
<v Speaker 1>the conflict and the war there and our invasion of

1:02:08.875 --> 1:02:12.355
<v Speaker 1>it under mister Bush, and David Bloom died there. He

1:02:12.475 --> 1:02:15.995
<v Speaker 1>died there of deep vein thrombosis because he was riding

1:02:16.035 --> 1:02:19.875
<v Speaker 1>around in this extraordinary then for the time, live tank.

1:02:20.275 --> 1:02:23.035
<v Speaker 1>He could broadcast live from this tank, and it was

1:02:23.075 --> 1:02:25.915
<v Speaker 1>a great thing for television. Unfortunately it meant that for

1:02:26.035 --> 1:02:29.075
<v Speaker 1>several weeks he slept in a tank in a curled

1:02:29.115 --> 1:02:31.795
<v Speaker 1>position with his knees bent, and as he got sicker

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<v Speaker 1>and sicker and didn't know that it was a problem,

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<v Speaker 1>he was turning greener and greener, and those of us

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<v Speaker 1>who saw him on the air said, what's wrong with him? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's just the feeds a little off color, and went, well,

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<v Speaker 1>everything else looks right, why does he look greenish bronze?

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<v Speaker 1>The next day he was dead. It was a tragedy

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<v Speaker 1>of unbelievable proportions. So David Bloom was gone, and then

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<v Speaker 1>there was no apparent successor lined up in Washington. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the people at NBC News who might actually

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<v Speaker 1>have been good successors for Tim Russard if he had

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<v Speaker 1>to pick somebody, moved off into different branches of the company.

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<v Speaker 1>Noura O'Donnell was one. Noura O'Donnell was considered for a

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<v Speaker 1>period of time as a possible successor to Russert on

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<v Speaker 1>that show, and then she eventually moved on to CBS

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<v Speaker 1>after Tim's death, and that didn't happen at NBC, but

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<v Speaker 1>the only person that they'd ever really sort of talked about,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe as a guest host, as a replacement if something

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<v Speaker 1>happened where Tim wanted to retire. Apart from the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that Tom Brokaw might make a good fill in, there

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<v Speaker 1>was this idea about David Gregory. And then came the

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<v Speaker 1>tragedy of the summer of two thousand and eight and

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<v Speaker 1>the death of Tom Brokaw rather of Tim Russard, and

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<v Speaker 1>the immediate replacement of him by Tom Brokaw on an

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<v Speaker 1>interim basis, while they tried to get David Gregory up

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<v Speaker 1>to speed to be the host to Meet the Press.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think David Gregory did a bad job as

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<v Speaker 1>the host of Meet the Press. Apparently I was in

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<v Speaker 1>a minority of this, but he was very, very tense.

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<v Speaker 1>The job weighed on him heavily, and he was very

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to work with by all the accounts I heard of.

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<v Speaker 1>And Rachel Maddow once played me the voicemail that David

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<v Speaker 1>Gregory left her after she had to cancel for family

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<v Speaker 1>reasons a trip to Washington to be on Meet the Press,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was two minutes of perhaps non stop scatological terms.

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<v Speaker 1>How dare you and then just words I won't even

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<v Speaker 1>repeat here, and then she said and that was only

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<v Speaker 1>the first message. He called right back and there was

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<v Speaker 1>another two minutes of it. So that's that's what she

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<v Speaker 1>played me. David, I don't think could handle the pressure

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<v Speaker 1>of it. David had already flailed out in his role

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<v Speaker 1>as the original replacement for Don iMOS when they fired

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<v Speaker 1>Imus and canceled that show. And because David didn't do that,

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<v Speaker 1>we got Joe Scarborough in the Mornings on MSNBC. And

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<v Speaker 1>because David didn't do Meet the Press, well, although that

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<v Speaker 1>lasted longer than he did on the Mornings, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>they gave him three or four weeks on the Morning

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<v Speaker 1>on MSNBC and then when next and we got Scarborough.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Meat the Press thing went on for several years.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I wasn't at NBC News, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>connected to it. I do know that by about twenty

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen or so, they made that change. I do know

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<v Speaker 1>that Chuck Todd then took me out to dinner one time.

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<v Speaker 1>This was transparently designed to get me to convince Katie

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<v Speaker 1>Turr to accept a lesser assignment than she wanted. After

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty sixteen presidential campaign, and Chuck had turned completely

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<v Speaker 1>condescending and completely above himself and completely out of his depth.

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<v Speaker 1>And he had such a conviction that he and he

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<v Speaker 1>alone knew what to do next. It was extraordinary. Any

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<v Speaker 1>level of charm and maybe I don't have this right

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<v Speaker 1>had been gone for a long time. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was because Russert died. Because Russert was Chuck's rabbi.

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<v Speaker 1>He was, in fact the man who was guiding Chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Still had hopes that Chuck might make an anchor, which

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't. But the origins of all of that are

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<v Speaker 1>as I told you. The reason that Chuck Todd got

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<v Speaker 1>into the position that he got into was Tim Russert

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<v Speaker 1>was looking for somebody to succeed him as bureau chief

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<v Speaker 1>of NBC News in Washington. Couldn't find anybody he thought

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<v Speaker 1>of that would be good. He was thinking of looking

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<v Speaker 1>for somebody eventually to take over Meet the Press, and

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really find anybody that he thought of, But he

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<v Speaker 1>certainly thought that David Gregory would be a good choice

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<v Speaker 1>and Chuck Todd would not. He took a poll of

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<v Speaker 1>all the people at NBC News and MSNBC who he

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<v Speaker 1>trusted as to whether or not he should hire Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>Todd for any capacity, and I guess we all voted yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I apologize for that. What can I tell you

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<v Speaker 1>in any event? I keep saying in any event, But

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<v Speaker 1>that's the key operative word. Chuck Todd wound up in

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<v Speaker 1>a position to be the host of Meet the Press

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<v Speaker 1>because David Bloom died and Tim Russert died and David

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<v Speaker 1>Gregory did not succeed. When you are, in essence, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth choice, or the fourth reasonable choice, or the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth consensus choice. Sometimes that's just not good enough. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what happened to Chuck. And I hope they ask

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<v Speaker 1>him those questions before they give him the two billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done all the damage I can do here. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>Breaking Bad and Airplane. Everything else was as ever, pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much my fault. Let's countdown for today, just three and

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<v Speaker 1>eighty five days until the scheduled end of his lame

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<v Speaker 1>doc lame brained term, unless Musk removes him sooner or

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<v Speaker 1>the actuarial tables due. The next scheduled countdown is Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>As always boldens as the news warrants, remember impeach Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>It will not work well now. It will, however, win

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats the mid terms, and I want polling on

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<v Speaker 1>a presidential recall vote. Let's put as they said in

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<v Speaker 1>the original British version of House of Cards, let's put

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of stick about until next time. I'm Keith Olberman.

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