1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:01,520 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Ted Cruz Weekend Review, Ben Ferguson 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 2: with you, and these are the stories that you may 4 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: have missed that we talked about this past week. First up, 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: the largest funder of the terrorist organization Al Shabab apparently 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: is the American taxpayer. 7 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: How did this happen? We'll explain it in just a moment. 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: Also, whiteness is apparently a pandemic so dangerous that one 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: university says it's a major study point that we have 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: to talk about. And finally, Texas designates the Muslim Brotherhood 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 2: a terrorist organization and the President follows suit. It's the 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 2: Weekend Review and it starts right now. There is a 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: story that broke that is should make every American angry, 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: and that is this story of the largest funder of 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: Al Shabab turns out to be an Al Shabab is 16 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: a tarist organization, a smalling terarist organation, is actually the 17 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 2: Minnesota taxpayers. Now that may just seem like a weird 18 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: headline to people, but what we're witnessing is tax hours 19 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: funneling directly to the Islamic terrorist organization. And it's been 20 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: going on at numbers that were clearly warning signs when 21 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: Joe Biden was president in the amount of funds that 22 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: were leaving Minnesota, and no one seemed about an eye 23 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: or no one seemed to care that this was happening. 24 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: Break it down for everybody that doesn't know anything about this. 25 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: Well, this is a story that's really at the intersection 26 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: of two issues that matter enormously. Number one is waste, 27 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 3: fraud and abuse in government, and we see that at 28 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 3: the federal government, we see that at the state level, 29 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 3: particularly in big blue states. But secondly, the rise of 30 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: radical Islam in America, and it's dangerous, it is threatening 31 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: our liberty, and it is spreading. It's spreading often with 32 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: the enthusiastic cheerleading of Democrat elected officials. This story is 33 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 3: right at the intersection of both of them. And so 34 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: the City Journal reported I'm just going to read a 35 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: portion of this article because it really is. It's a 36 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 3: stunning report, and it begins the largest funder of al 37 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 3: Schebab is the Minnesota taxpayer. How some of the state's 38 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: welfare funds ended up in the hands of a terror group. 39 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: Minnesota is drowning and fraud. Billions in taxpayer dollars have 40 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 3: been stolen during the administration of Governor Tim Waltz alone. 41 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 3: Of course, Tim Waltz was Kamala Harris's nominee to BVP. 42 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 3: Democrat state officials overseeing one of the most generous welfare 43 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: regimes in the country are asleep at the switch, and 44 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 3: the media, duty bound by progressive pietes, refused to connect 45 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: the dots. In many cases, the fraud has allegedly been 46 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 3: perpetrated by members of the Minnesota sizeable Somali community. Federal 47 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: counter terrorism support sources confirm that millions of dollars millions 48 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: in stolen funds had been sent back to Somalia, where 49 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 3: they ultimately landed in the hands of the terror group 50 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: Al Schebab. One confidential source put it quote, the largest 51 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: funder of Al Shabab is the Minnesota taxpayer. Our investigation 52 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 3: shows what happens when a tribal mindset meets a bleeding 53 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 3: heart bureaucracy, When imported clan loyalties collide with a political 54 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 3: class too timid to offend, and when accusations of racism 55 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 3: are cynically deployed to shield criminal behavior. The predictable result 56 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 3: is graft, with taxpayers left to foot the bill. If 57 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 3: you were designed to design a welfare program to facilitate fraud, 58 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: it would probably look a lot like Minnesota's Medicaid Housing 59 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 3: Stabilization Services program. The HHS program, the first of its 60 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: kind in the country, was launched with a noble goal 61 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 3: to help seniors, addicts that disabled in the mentally ill 62 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: secure housing. It was designed with quote low barriers to 63 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: entry and quote minimal requirements for reimbursement. Nonetheless, before the 64 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: program went live in twenty twenty, officials pegged its annual 65 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 3: estimated price tag at two point six million dollars. Cost 66 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: quickly spiraled out of control. In twenty twenty one, the 67 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: program and paid out more than twenty one million dollars. 68 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: By the way, it was projected to be two point 69 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: six million. In the following year, annual cost shot up 70 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: to forty two million, then seventy four million, then one 71 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 3: hundred and four million. On August first, Minnesota's Department of 72 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: Human Services moved to scrap the HHS program, noting that 73 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: payment to seventy seven housing stabilization providers had terminated this 74 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 3: year due to credible allegations of fraud. Joe Thompson, then 75 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: the acting US Attorney for the District of Minnesota, when 76 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 3: even further saying the vast majority, let me repeat that 77 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: the vast majority of the HHS program was fraudulent. On 78 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 3: September eighteenth, Thompson announced criminal indictments for HHS fraud against 79 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 3: Maktar Hassan Aiden, Mustafa daib Byli, Khalid Ahmed daib Ab 80 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: de Fita, Mohammed Mohammad, Christopher Adisoli Falad. By the way, Ben, 81 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 3: you try to go through those names, yeah, I'm. 82 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: Going to pass on that. Great job. I give you 83 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: a B plus on that. 84 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 3: Okay, six of whom, according to the US Attorney's Office, 85 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: are members of Minnesota Somali community. Thompson made clear that 86 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 3: this is the first round of charges for HSS fraud 87 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 3: that his office will be prosecuting most of these cases. 88 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 3: Unlike a lot of medicare fraud, medicaid fraud nationally aren't 89 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 3: just over billing, Thompson said a press conference announcing the indicements. 90 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: These are often just purely fictitious companies solely created to 91 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 3: defraud the system. And that's unique in the extent to 92 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: which we have that here in Minnesota. Thompson said. Many 93 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 3: of the firms enrolled in the program operated out of 94 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: dilapidated storefronts or run down office buildings. The perpetrators often 95 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: targeted people recently released from rehab signed them up for 96 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 3: Medicaid services they had no intention of providing. He noted 97 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 3: many of the owners of companies engaged in HHS fraud 98 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: had other companies through which they built other Medicaid programs, 99 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: such as the EIDBI Autism Program, the Adult Rehabilitative Mental 100 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 3: Health Services Program, the Integrated Community Services Program, the Community 101 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 3: Access for Disability Inclusion Program PCA Services, and other Medicaid 102 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 3: waivered services. What we see are schemes stacked upon schemes, 103 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 3: draining resources meant for those most in needs. It feels 104 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: never ending. I have spent my career as a fraud prosecutor, 105 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: and the depth of the fraud in Minnesota takes my 106 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 3: breath away. 107 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: You read that and you just think about how much 108 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: money this is that not only was stolen from the taxpayers, 109 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 2: and they go into how much it kept growing and 110 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: growing and growing these programs, but it's obvious that people 111 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: knew there was fraud. Then you find out it's going 112 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 2: to a terrorist organization, and so we're funding the terrorist organization. 113 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: How the hell do people not go to jail for this? 114 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 3: Well, they are a number of people are being prosecuted. 115 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 3: But you know what is striking is not just was 116 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 3: their massive fraud, but the massive fraud God was funding terrorism. 117 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: Here's what the City Journal continues saying. Perhaps the most 118 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 3: surprising aspect of the Somali fraud story is the scale, 119 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: with total costs running into the billions of taxpayer dollars, 120 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: that raises the question what happened to all that money? 121 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: The Somali fraud rings have sent huge sums and remittances 122 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 3: or money transfers from Minnesota to Somalia, according to reports, 123 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: and estimated forty percent of households in Somalia get remittances 124 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: from abroad. In twenty twenty three alone, the Somali diaspora 125 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: sent back one point seven billion dollars, more than the 126 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: Somali government's budget for that year. Our investigation reveals for 127 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: the first time that some of this money has been 128 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 3: directed to an even more troubling destination, the al Qaeda 129 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: linked Islamic terror group Al Shabab. According to multiple law 130 00:07:54,560 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: enforcement sources, Minnesota's Somali community has sent untold millions through 131 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: a network of jualas informal clan based money traders that 132 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: have wound up in the coffers of al Shabab. According 133 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: to Glenn Kerns, a retired Seattle Police Department detective who 134 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: spent fourteen years on a federal Joint terrorism task force, 135 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 3: the Somalis ran a sophisticated money network spanning from Seattle 136 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 3: to Minneapolis, and we're routing significant amounts of cash on 137 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 3: commercial flights from the Seattle airport to the Huala networks 138 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: in Somalia. One of these networks, Kerns discovered, sent twenty 139 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 3: million dollars abroad in a single year. So this is 140 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 3: money that's coming from the Minnesota taxpayers. It is going 141 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 3: through the Somalia Somali community in Minnesota back to Somalia 142 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 3: on the order of magnitude of one point seven billion 143 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 3: dollars a year, and millions of those dollars were flowing 144 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 3: directly to Al Shabab, an al Qaeda linked major terrorist organization. 145 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 3: That this is tragic, it is shocking. And and by 146 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 3: the way, I'm curious, have you seen it on CNN, No, NBCCBS. 147 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: Nope, none of them, none of them touching it. 148 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 3: MSNBC, no, Washington Post, New York Times, Nope, you would 149 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 3: think that would be news. 150 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: I also look at. 151 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: The amount of money and how quickly it grew. That's 152 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 2: something else that I do think is interesting. Here is 153 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: how I mean you want to talk about warning signs center, 154 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: there was clear warning signs, like very very clear warning 155 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 2: signs that this was happening, and and yet no one 156 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: in government seemed to stop, pause or ask a question. 157 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 2: That part, also to me is just like is it 158 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 2: always unlimited funds? 159 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: Is that how it's now? In government? And whatever? 160 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 2: You start just keep making it grow and double and 161 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 2: triple in size year after year after year, and spending 162 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: and and no one's like, hold on a second, this 163 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: doesn't add up this many kids with autism that doesn't 164 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: seem normal. Well, how much it went doubled from last 165 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 2: year the year before the year before that. I mean, 166 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 2: there's a clear line here of like red flags that 167 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: no one seemed to care about. 168 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 3: Well, and it's worth remembering Tim Waltz is not someone 169 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,599 Speaker 3: at the fringe of the Democrat Party. Tim Waltz is 170 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 3: who Kamala Harris thought should be Vice President of the 171 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 3: United States. Presumably Kamala thought that she should he should 172 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: succeed her and become the president of the United States. 173 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 3: And Tim Waltz like many Democrats, but what but Waltz's 174 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: is worse than many of them. Just look the other way, 175 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 3: just turned a blind eye. And one combination. It's a 176 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 3: combination of a number of factors. One piece of it 177 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 3: is just the left wing view that the more money 178 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 3: you're giving away in welfare the better. And so it 179 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 3: doesn't matter how much it grows. If you're giving a 180 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 3: million dollars this year, they wanted to be two million, 181 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: then four, then six, then eight and twelve. They want 182 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: it to grow without any any consideration about number one, 183 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 3: bankrupting the state and the taxpayers, but number two about 184 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: the impact of spending all that money trapping people independency. 185 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: But a second component of it, it's not just dependency. 186 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 3: Dependency assumes someone's actually getting well for payments. It is 187 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: also bleatant fraud. And there is unfortunately a network of 188 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: corruption where many of those engage in fraud are also 189 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 3: writing checks to elect Democrats. And if you look at 190 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: the Somali community in Minnesota, it is a major voting 191 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 3: network that votes for Democrats in Minnesota, and so at 192 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 3: the end of the day, the Democrats, when it comes 193 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 3: to buying votes, shoveling this cash into this maw of fraud, 194 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: even though the taxpayers were being robbed and the money 195 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: was going to a radical Islamic terrorist organization. If you're 196 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 3: a Democrat, it made political sense on some level because 197 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 3: you got money and you got votes. And it is 198 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 3: astonishing that there's not do you know of a single 199 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 3: Democrat denouncing this. No, I mean that's a striking thing. 200 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 2: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, 201 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 2: you can go back and listen to the full podcast 202 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two center. 203 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: Finally on the show, let's deal with a major problem. 204 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 1: It's huge. 205 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: A university is now warning of a quote unquote whiteness pandemic. 206 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: Not a problem, but a pandemic, a whiteness pandemic. This 207 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: is coming from the University of Minnesota. I'll let you 208 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: take it from there. 209 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to say this is going to piss 210 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 3: you off. Are you white? 211 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: Then? 212 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 3: Apparently you are an evil, noxious scourge on America. You 213 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 3: are a pandemic, You are a virus, you are a disease, 214 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: and woke leftists are going to re educate the whiteness 215 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 3: right out of you. Like I wish I were making 216 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: this up. Like when I say these words, you sound 217 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 3: like a lunatic. You sound like you're wearing like a 218 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: tinfoil hat, and you believe in conspiracy theories. But I 219 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 3: want to read to you from a website from the 220 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 3: University of Minnesota, by the way, the state website. This 221 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 3: is all right. Here's what the website says. Quote. What 222 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 3: is the whiteness pandemic? Racism is an epidemic that can 223 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 3: also be considered a pandemic given its large cross national 224 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 3: proportion and spread. However, there is another pandemic lurking behind 225 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 3: and driving the racist pandemic, the whiteness pandemic. Whiteness refers 226 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 3: to culture, not biology. The centuries old culture of whiteness 227 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: features color blindness, in other words, not being a racist. 228 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 3: That is the whiteness pandemic. Passivity, and white fragility were 229 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 3: all covert expressions of racism common in the United States. 230 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 3: Naming the whiteness pandemic shifts our gaze from the victims 231 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: and effects of racism onto the systems that perpetrate and 232 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: perpetuate racism. Starting with the family system. In other words, 233 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 3: families are racist. If you believe in families, if you 234 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 3: believe in a mom and dad raising kids, loving kids. 235 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 3: That is, the family system is part of the whiteness pandemic. 236 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 3: At birth, young children growing up in white families begin 237 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 3: to be socialized into the culture of whiteness, making the 238 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 3: family system one of the most powerful systems involved in 239 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: systemic racism. That this is open. We hate families is 240 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: what the University of Minnesota is saying. And okay, what's 241 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 3: the next section? Quote? How do we halt and reverse 242 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 3: the whiteness pandemic? If you were born and raised in 243 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 3: the United States, you have grown up in the whiteness pandemic, 244 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 3: and you can play a role in halting or reversing 245 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 3: this pandemic, especially if you are white, because of the 246 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: power and privilege you hold in this racialized society. If 247 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 3: you were socialized into the culture of whiteness during your childhood, 248 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 3: it is not your fault, but as an adult, it 249 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 3: is now your responsibility to self reflect, to re edge 250 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 3: kate yourself and act. If you are a white adult, 251 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: anti racist action involves an ongoing process of self reflection 252 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 3: in order to develop a healthy, positive white identity while 253 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: encouraging courageous anti racist parenting slash caregiving. What utter and 254 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 3: complete garbage, what racist leftist communist drek. And this is 255 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: the University of Minnesota. By the way, Look, there are 256 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 3: like great people in Minnesota, They're great people in every state, 257 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 3: and yet these people are racist radicals. And this is 258 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: what they're indoctrinating our children with. 259 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 2: Not only the indoctrinary children, but this is where a 260 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: lot of our dollars are tax hours go, which is 261 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: the other frustrating part that this is what they're indoctrinating 262 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 2: them with. 263 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 3: Undoubtedly. And by the way, our podcast on Monday, so 264 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 3: we do this podcast three days a week, Monday, Wednesday, 265 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 3: and Friday. Our podcast on Monday talked about what is 266 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: the number one funder of Al Chebab, the Radical Islamics 267 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 3: terrorist group, And the answer, terrifyingly enough, is the taxpayers 268 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 3: of the state of Minnesota. So in Minnesota has a 269 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 3: huge Somali community. Somalis have invaded the state of Minnesota's 270 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: how you elect Ilhan Omar who actively is anti American 271 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 3: racist radical, embraces and supports radical Islamic terrorists, and the 272 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 3: Somali community sends billions every year back to Somalia, and 273 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 3: millions of that money sent back ends up directly in 274 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 3: the pockets in the coffers of al Shabab, and it 275 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 3: is the Minnesota state taxpayers. So we detailed this on Monday, 276 00:16:54,560 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 3: how welfare fraud, fraudulent collection of welfare payments, an entire 277 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 3: welfare system set up seemingly on the face of it 278 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 3: to encourage fraud, to facilitate fraud, is resulting in Minnesota 279 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 3: taxpayers sending millions of dollars to radical Islamic terrorists. This 280 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 3: is the same ideology, like what do you do if 281 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 3: you happen to be a white kid at the University 282 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 3: of Minnesota. You show up and be told by the way, 283 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: you're just you know, you're seventeen, eighteen year old kid. 284 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 3: You show up as a freshman, and if you're white, 285 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 3: you're told you're a pandemic, you're a virus. And the 286 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 3: only answer is re educate yourself because who you are, 287 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 3: who America is. And understand this screed against quote anti 288 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 3: whiteness is also a screed against America. That these Marxists 289 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 3: hate the United States of America, They hate the Constitution, 290 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 3: they hate our freedoms. And this garbage that is anti racism, 291 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 3: this garbage that is DEI, this garbage that says we 292 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 3: must institutionalize, by the way, the fix for the anti 293 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 3: for the whiteness pandemic is to discriminate against anyone who 294 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 3: is white, is to institutionalize racism. And that is grotesque, 295 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 3: it is wrong. It is contrary to the fourteenth Amendment 296 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 3: of the Constitution, which protects provides the equal protection of 297 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 3: the law to all people are regardless of race. It 298 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 3: is contrary to the founding notions of this country. The 299 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 3: Declaration said, we hold these truths to be self evident, 300 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 3: that all men are created equal, not some, not just 301 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 3: white people, not just black people, not anyone. All men 302 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 3: and all women are created equal, That they are endowed 303 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 3: by their creator with certain unvailable rights, that among them 304 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: are life liberty in the pursuit of happiness. That's what 305 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 3: this country was built on. And these Marxists who have 306 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 3: taken over our institutions hate that notion, and this kind 307 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 3: of garbage is being spewed to our children and being 308 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 3: used to brainwash our children at a massive rate. 309 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: I tell this all the time to parents when they 310 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 2: ask be careful where you send your kids to college, 311 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: because they could be indoctrinated to literally hate this country. 312 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: This is another exam. 313 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 3: And to hate you exactly, to hate their mom and dada. 314 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 3: But by the way, what I just read the family system, 315 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: they are attacking families. They're telling your kids family is evil. 316 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 3: That's what Marxists believe. 317 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: As before. 318 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 2: If you want to hear the rest of this conversation 319 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 2: on this topic, you can go back and dow the 320 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: podcast from earlier this week to hear the entire thing. 321 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 2: I want to get back to the big story number 322 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: three of the week. 323 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: You may have missed. 324 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: This is something that you've been talking about for a while. Yea, 325 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: designating the Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist organization and Texas 326 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 2: is now taking a big step. I think this is 327 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 2: going to be a great example for the rest of 328 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: the country and talk about how big of a victory 329 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 2: this is in Texas leading the way. 330 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 3: Well, it's a big victory. Let me tell you about 331 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 3: what Texas did and I'm going to take it more 332 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 3: broadly into the national fight over designating the Muslim Brotherhood. 333 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 3: So Texas this week declared care and the Muslim Brotherhood 334 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 3: is terrorist groups preventing land purchases. Let me read from 335 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 3: Fox News. Texas Governor Greg Abbott designated the Council on 336 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 3: American Islamic Relations CARE and the Muslim Brotherhood as foreign 337 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 3: terrorist and transnational criminal organizations Tuesday, preventing both groups from 338 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 3: obtaining land in the Lone Star state. Abbot said the 339 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 3: statement that he made the move as quote, the Muslim 340 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 3: Brotherhood and CARE have long made their goals clear to 341 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 3: forcibly impose Sharia law and establish Islam's mastership of the world. 342 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 3: The actions taken by the Muslim Brotherhood and CARE to 343 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 3: support terrorism across the globe and subvert our laws through violence, intimidation, 344 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 3: and harassment are unacceptable. Today I designated the Muslim Brotherhood 345 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 3: in CARE as foreign terrorist organizations and transnational criminal organizations. 346 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 3: These radical extremists are not welcome in our state and 347 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 3: are now prohibited from acquiring any real property interest in Texas. 348 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 3: A proclamation signed by Abbot claims that CARE quote is 349 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 3: an Islamist organization that, according to the FBI, was founded 350 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 3: as a front group for HAMAS and its support network 351 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: in the United States. It added that quote CARE and 352 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 3: its members have repeatedly employed, affiliated with and supported individuals 353 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 3: promoting terrorism related activities, including Gasan Elashi, a founding member 354 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 3: of the Texas Branch for Care and treasurer of the 355 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 3: Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development charity quote, who 356 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 3: was sentenced to a total of sixty five years in 357 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 3: prison for financing terrorism in two thousand and nine. The 358 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 3: proclamation also states that Hamas was quote formed in nineteen 359 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 3: eighty seven as the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, 360 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 3: and that activities of the Muslim Brotherhood branches have similarly 361 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 3: been eliminated or prohibited by the governments of Austria, by 362 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 3: b K, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab 363 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 3: Emirates in light of the Muslim Brotherhood encouraging terrorism or 364 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 3: attempting to destabilize these countries. Look, this is real leadership 365 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 3: from the State of Texas. It is what the federal 366 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 3: government should be doing. The Muslim Brotherhood, I believe, is 367 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 3: unquestionably a terrorist organization, and we have yet to designate them, 368 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 3: as Governor Abbott noted, many other countries on Earth have, 369 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 3: and I believe the United States during the Trump administration 370 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 3: we're going to do this. I've introduced legislation literally for 371 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 3: ten years to make this happen at a federal level. 372 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: So what has been the hold up there? For people 373 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: that are new to this subject we talked about before. 374 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: Maybe they missed an episode. How the hell is it 375 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 2: so hard to get the Muslim Brotherhood to be declared 376 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: to terrorist organization through the US government? 377 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: What is the hold up? Yeah? You mentioned this is 378 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: like a decades long fight. 379 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 3: Now, so for five consecutive congresses, I've introduced legislation designate 380 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 3: the Muslim Brotherhood. The hold up, We got very close 381 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 3: during the first Trump administration. I thought we were going 382 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 3: to get it done during the first Trump administration. The 383 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 3: resistance was from the deep state at the State Department, 384 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 3: the career bureaucrats there. And I'll tell you the old 385 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 3: versions of the legislation. The way I wrote it, it 386 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 3: was top down. What does that mean? It directed the 387 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 3: State Department to designate the Global Muslim Brotherhood, which is 388 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 3: the big umbrella organization's a terrorist organization. Here's the argument 389 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 3: the career employees a State made. They said, look, there 390 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 3: are lots of different affiliates of the Muslim Brotherhood. We 391 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: cannot definitively prove that every one of the affiliates meets 392 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 3: the statutory criteria for being a terrorist organization. That's how 393 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 3: they stopped it from happening in Trump one. So in 394 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 3: Trump two, I rewrote the legislation and instead of being 395 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 3: bottom down or top down, I rewrote it to be 396 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 3: bottom up. And so what the legislation currently says is 397 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 3: it says that the State Department should designate every one 398 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 3: of the Muslim Brotherhood affiliates for which the evidence is 399 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 3: clear and unequivocal as terrorist organizations. For example, Hamas Hamas 400 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine. It is indisputable that Hamas 401 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 3: is a terrorist organization. They carried out October seventh, murdered 402 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 3: twelve hundred Israelis, raped and murdered women and little girls. 403 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 3: Hamas is unquestionably a terrorist organization. That's true of multiple 404 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 3: Muslim Brotherhood affiliates. What my new legislation said is designate 405 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: those affiliates, and then it directs the State Department to 406 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 3: designate the Global Muslim Brotherhood because it gives money to 407 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 3: those affiliates, and so designate the umbrella Organization for material 408 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 3: support of for giving money to unquestionable terrorist organizations. Now 409 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 3: part of the reason I think we're going to get 410 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 3: this done is that chain of reasoning. There's not a 411 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 3: step in that reasoning that is assailable. The deep state 412 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 3: can't fight that. 413 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, but at. 414 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 3: The end of the day, let me tell you this 415 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 3: is not going to be a fight. I think that 416 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 3: is won legislatively. So I've introduced the legislation. I tried 417 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 3: very very hard in this Congress to get a Democrat 418 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 3: to support me. I will tell you I talked to 419 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,959 Speaker 3: numerous Democrats. They said no, they said no. Look, the 420 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 3: Democrat Party is very afraid, unfortunately, of disturbing the pro 421 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 3: Hamas wing of their party in the House. The companion 422 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 3: legislation of my legislation has four Democrats on board, so 423 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 3: we do have some Democrat support. I was able to 424 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 3: get one Democrat, so John Fetterman is supporting me. So 425 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: the legislation is Cruz Fetterman. It is bipartisan. 426 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 2: By the way, can we just pause there and just 427 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: talk about how cool that is. 428 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: The more that. 429 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 2: We have interacted, that you've interacted with John, the more 430 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 2: respect I really do have for him as a Democrat, 431 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 2: the way he stood up to his party on the shutdown. Look, 432 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 2: there are some places where you don't win races. I 433 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 2: never thought I would say I am thankful for John 434 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 2: Fetterman and his leadership in the Senate when he. 435 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: Was first elected. 436 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 2: I got to tell you, he may be the biggest 437 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 2: surprise in the last decade for me of a true 438 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 2: Democrat statesman that is willing to come to the table 439 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: on saane issues like the government shutdown or like this. 440 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 2: And I think when this happens, we as conservatives should 441 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: take that moment and say job well done to Senator Fetterman. 442 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 2: I'm really impressed because there's a lot of issues. 443 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: He says. 444 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 2: Politics are a side. I don't care the heat I'm 445 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 2: going to get from my party for this. I'm gonna 446 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 2: do the right thing. We used to have a lot 447 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 2: more of that in politics. 448 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it used to be much more commonplace. When I 449 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 3: showed up in the Senate thirteen years ago, there was 450 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 3: such a thing as moderate Democrats. They largely don't exist. Actually, 451 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 3: someone before that was Kirson Cinema. Kierson Cinema was elected 452 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 3: from Arizona. When she came in, there was not a 453 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 3: whole lot of reason to believe she would be a moderate. 454 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 3: And I will say, Kirsten, I really like Kirsten, she 455 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 3: stood up to her party. She demonstrated real courage, and 456 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 3: you know what happened. The Democrats chased her out of 457 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 3: the party. Both Cinema and Joe Manchin, who were the 458 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 3: only two Democrats who said no to eliminating the filibuster, 459 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: the Democrats chased both of them out of the party. 460 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 3: They said, we don't want any dissent. You must obey 461 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 3: the dictates to the radical left. Well, John Fetterman got elected, 462 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 3: and listen, you and I both did not support him 463 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 3: when he was running for the Senate. To begin with, 464 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 3: he was a Democrat and his prior record as Lieutenant 465 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 3: governor of Pennsylvania gave little reason to think that he 466 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 3: would be anything other than a left wing Democrat. That's 467 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 3: certainly what I anticipated. He has astonished me. I like 468 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 3: John personally. He obviously during the campaign suffered a stroke. 469 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 3: He had had serious medical issues. It was very difficult. 470 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 3: His mind could not process the spoken words. So when 471 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 3: he was newly elected, you would talk to him, but 472 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 3: he would carry around an iPad that translated the words 473 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 3: that are being said into texts, and he would have 474 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 3: to read the iPad because it was just one of 475 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 3: the consequences of the stroke that when you talk to him, 476 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 3: his brain was operating, but the input of the oral 477 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 3: spoken word did not make it through. I will say 478 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 3: his health has improved significantly. He's now able to have 479 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 3: a conversation and engage. So the aftermath of the stroke 480 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 3: thankfully has gotten better. But Fetterman has shown real courage 481 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 3: and standing up to his party on the shutdown. He 482 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 3: stood up to Schumer and said this shutdown is stupid. 483 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 3: We need to end the shutdown. And on Israel, the 484 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 3: level of courage he has shown by saying the Prohamas 485 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 3: wing of our party is wrong. It is terrible, and 486 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 3: I John Fetterman, are proud to stand with Israel. It's 487 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 3: been heroic. And I got to say he's been demonized 488 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 3: by his own party, the Democrats. 489 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: They treat him terribly. 490 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 3: The Republicans of the Senate treated much better than the 491 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 3: Democrats do. 492 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: Well and not only demonize him. This goes back to 493 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: his civility. 494 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 2: He had a fall this past week and Democrats were 495 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 2: cheering his fall before we even knew like his health. Now, 496 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: he put up a picture of himself. I was glad 497 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: to see he's gonna be okay. But like, it just 498 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 2: tells you about how much if you don't get in 499 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 2: line with the Democratic Party. It didn't matter if you 500 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: names Fetterman or Schumer at this point or Nancy Pelosi like, 501 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: it is off with your heads and Democratic Party as 502 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: a leadership perspective from them, they are done with you 503 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 2: if you are not going to extreme left on every issue. 504 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 3: So Bennett's worse than that. When Fetterman newly arrived in 505 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 3: the Senate, the Democrats all assumed he would just be 506 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,719 Speaker 3: a left wing reliable vote, and so you had all 507 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 3: the Democrats putting out statement, He's fine, his health is 508 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 3: not a problem. And as I said, the stroke had 509 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 3: very real and limiting effects on him. I mean it 510 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 3: was significant, but every Democrat defended him. And then as 511 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 3: his health started to get better, Yep, he was willing 512 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 3: to buck the Democrats. And if you disagree with the 513 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 3: Democrat party line on even one issue, but especially on 514 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 3: an issue like the current Democrat party's embrace of Hamas 515 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 3: and their anti Israel animis, they turned on him viciously. 516 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 3: And I got to tell you there have been dozens 517 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 3: of articles written with quotes from Democrat senators, Democrat staffers 518 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 3: just doing everything they could to shive him, to say, 519 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 3: to to actually attack his mental capability and say, oh, 520 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 3: he's not able to do the job. The irony is 521 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 3: they attacked him once he had improved significantly, was recovering. 522 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 3: But yet, in their view, the unforgivable sin was daring 523 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 3: to deviate from what every other Democrat was saying. And 524 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 3: I view Fetterment as the exception that proves the rule. 525 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 3: That being said, this legislation to designates the Muslim Brotherhood 526 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 3: at the national level at Cruz Fetterment to pass, we 527 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 3: would need sixty Senators. That would mean we would need 528 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 3: at least seven Democrats. I have no indication that seven 529 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 3: Democrats are likely to support this. I'm going to try. 530 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 3: I'm going to keep pressing it. We'll see, we'll put 531 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 3: it for a vote. I would love to have that 532 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 3: bipartisan support, but as of now, I've not been able 533 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 3: to get any other Democrats urging it. 534 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 2: I mean, when you were in for Senate, you know, 535 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: several years ago, did you ever think you would govern 536 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 2: in a body work with a group people. You can't 537 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 2: even get agreement on a designating a terrorist organization a 538 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: terrorist organization? 539 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 3: Oh look, partisan politics has always been part of Washington. 540 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 3: That being said, it's gotten much much worse. And actually 541 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 3: President Trump. When President Trump got elected in twenty sixteen, 542 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 3: it broke the heads of the Democrats. Their minds are melted. 543 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 3: They just hate him, and so there's much less middle ground. 544 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,959 Speaker 3: But anyway, my strategy on the Muslim Brotherhood legislation is 545 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 3: not necessarily to pass it through Congress. So though I'd 546 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 3: love to, I'm going to continue trying to pass it 547 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 3: through Congress, but it is instead to build the public 548 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 3: case for this so that the Trump administration does so unilaterally. 549 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 3: They have the authority to do so. There's noiceput it. 550 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 3: As I said in Trump One, we almost got it done, 551 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 3: and I believe that President Trump will do so. I 552 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 3: think he'll do so probably in the next year. I 553 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 3: was in the White House just a couple of weeks ago. 554 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 3: I talked with the President directly about designating the Muslim Brotherhood. 555 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 3: I have met with Seb Gorka, who is the senior 556 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 3: official in the National Security Council who's handling this issue. 557 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 3: As I've talked with Seb about it, I believe the 558 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 3: Trump administration will do it this time. I think the 559 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 3: fact that we redesigned it to be bottom up is 560 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 3: going to make it much harder for the deep state 561 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 3: to oppose it. And I want to commend Greg Abbott 562 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 3: in the state of Texas because Texas is designating the 563 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: Muslim Brotherhood and Care as well, really helps for building 564 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 3: the momentum. The whole purpose of the legislative push is 565 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 3: to build the momentum to pride the air cover for 566 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 3: the Trump administration to do so, and I think that's 567 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 3: going to happen all right. 568 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 2: I also want to bring up CARE, and this is 569 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: another aspect of this legislation in Texas. Make it clear 570 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 2: it's not just the Muslim Brotherhood, it's also Care. This 571 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 2: one's a little bit more of a complicated organization. Break 572 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 2: that down why they're also getting on the list. 573 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not actually that complicated. I mean Care is 574 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 3: a domestic organization. They had previously been implicated in supporting Moss, 575 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 3: supporting other terrorist organization. Let me read a story from 576 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 3: the New York Post. It's entitled Muslim group Care cutting 577 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 3: one thousand dollars checks for anti Israel agitators who have 578 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 3: been disciplined by colleges. And here's what The New York 579 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 3: Post reported anti Israel agitators who spread disruption at US 580 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 3: colleges and were punished by authorities were awarded checks for 581 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 3: one thousand dollars by a Muslim nonprofit. The Post has 582 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 3: learned the money was given to students who faced penalties 583 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 3: for leading pro Palestinian protests before and after the Hamas 584 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 3: attack on Israel on October seventh, twenty twenty three. According 585 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 3: to a bombshell report by the Network, Intagent Research Institute 586 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 3: and the Intelligent Advocacy Network, the cash was awarded from 587 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 3: a Quote Champions of Justice fund set up by a 588 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 3: California chapter of the Council on American Islamic Relations CARE 589 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 3: as an institutional endorsement. The report claims in California, the 590 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 3: largest arm of the CARE web of nonprofits affiliates in 591 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 3: San Francis on Los Angeles raised more than one hundred 592 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 3: thousand dollars in donations for the campus radicals, while the 593 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 3: main group solicited sixty four thousand dollars in red donations. 594 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 3: Record show the money was then offered as interest free 595 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 3: loans and grants of one thousand dollars to students who 596 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 3: lost scholarships, housing or other support because of their advocacy. 597 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 3: According to carer's website, this is you have care. Literally, 598 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 3: you want to know why you had anti Semitic protests 599 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 3: on college campuses. I've been saying from the beginning, follow 600 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 3: the money. There's learning money behind me. 601 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 1: Follow the money. 602 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 3: The tents all matched, and it's because this is being 603 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 3: funded and this is being funded by Islamist this is 604 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 3: being funded by communists, this is being funded by foreign nations, 605 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 3: this is being funded by left wing billionaire donors who 606 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 3: frankly want to undermine America. And so Texas designating care 607 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 3: as well, that's a big step forward. 608 00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 2: Also, as always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Sentner, 609 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to deal 610 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 2: with my podcast and you can listen to my podcasts 611 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 2: every other day you're not listening to Verdict or each 612 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 2: day when you listen to Verdict. Afterwards, I'd love to 613 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 2: have you as a listener to again the Ben Ferguson 614 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 2: podcasts and we will see you back here on Monday morning.