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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Everybody, third hour play and Buck kicks

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Speaker 2: off right now. We are joined by doctor Carol Swain.

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Speaker 2: She's a senior fellow at the Institute for Faith and Culture,

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Speaker 2: also the author of the book The Adversity of Diversity,

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Speaker 2: which was released this past summer. Doctor Swain honored to

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Speaker 2: have you on the program.

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Speaker 3: Meetcham, I'm quite excited. Thank you for all the good

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Speaker 3: work you did.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with well, why your name has certainly been

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Speaker 2: in the news cycle for the last week or so.

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Speaker 2: The president of Harvard still the president as we speak here.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to change anytime soon, doctor Gay.

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Speaker 2: There are allegations from a friend of the show, Chris

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Speaker 2: Ruffo here and others that she plagiarized some of your work.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you first about that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: what do you think of those allegations and what do

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Speaker 2: you think of all the fact that doctor Gay seems

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Speaker 2: to be held to a different standard than other university presidents,

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Speaker 2: like University of Pennsylvania's who have already resigned.

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Speaker 3: But she is a documented serial pleasurist that that cannot

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Speaker 3: be denied, and Harvard University can't decide. You know laterally

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Speaker 3: that they're going to change the definition of pleasurism just

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Speaker 3: to protect its first ever black president.

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Speaker 5: So that is certainly the case.

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Speaker 3: And she lifted two passages from my prize winning book

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Speaker 3: Black Faces, Black Interests the representation of African Americans in Congress,

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Speaker 3: But her home to me, I contend go quar beyond

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Speaker 3: that because she did her early research in the area

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Speaker 3: where I was the noted scholar who produced the path

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Speaker 3: breaking work. She built on my work, and she did

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Speaker 3: not give me proper ignowledgment or attribution. As a scholar,

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Speaker 3: if you were working in an area where there is

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Speaker 3: a leading professor to acknowledge that work, either to a

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Speaker 3: permit to refute it or to expand it. She would

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Speaker 3: have a citation in her bibliography, But anyone reading Claudine

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Speaker 3: Gay's work would not know that about the work that

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Speaker 3: I was the lead scholar on that was considered pathbreaking.

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Speaker 5: So that's one issue. The other issue is to.

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Speaker 3: Get early tenure at Princeton. The requirements back in the

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Speaker 3: nineteen nineties was that you had to have a path

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Speaker 3: breaking book, not a series of mediocre articles. And my

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Speaker 3: book won three national prizes, was cited by many law

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Speaker 3: courts as well as the Supreme Court. I had three

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court citations. That was the path breaking work that

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Speaker 3: she should have acknowledged in her career.

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Speaker 4: It not really, doctor Swain. I appreciate you coming on.

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Speaker 1: This is Clay and I first want to say glad

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Speaker 1: that you have been at Vanderbilt University in the law

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Speaker 1: school and the undergrad I went to the law school.

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Speaker 1: I think you've done fantastic work there. My understanding is

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Speaker 1: you're a mom, a grandma, and a great grandma. So

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Speaker 1: I want to look at it from this perspective. When

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Speaker 1: you see what Harvard is saying to defend their president

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Speaker 1: right now, Claudine Gay, not only as a scholar, obviously

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Speaker 1: because you have achieved a tremendous amount in your career,

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Speaker 1: but as a mom, grandma and great grandma. What do

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Speaker 1: you think when the NAACP says it's racist to question

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Speaker 1: doctor Gay in any way about her scholarship.

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Speaker 3: I've been black all in my life and all of

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Speaker 3: my life. Whenever a black person was challenged on the left,

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Speaker 3: the reaction from the elites always racist, and so you

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Speaker 3: can't challenge one of their fellow elite blacks without hearing

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Speaker 3: the charge that it has to be racist. It always

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Speaker 3: has to be racist. If you're white, you have to

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Speaker 3: be a white supremacist. I would say that the people

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Speaker 5: Understand the issue.

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Speaker 3: And one of the nuances of the issue, as it

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Speaker 3: pertains to me, is that in her published work that

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Speaker 3: we now know that parts of it was pleasurized, she

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Speaker 3: in my opinion, cheated me out of citations. Because in academia,

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Speaker 3: your statue depends on how many citations you get. And

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Speaker 3: if there's someone working in an area where you did

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Speaker 3: pathbreaking work and they're not adequately citing your work or

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Speaker 3: acknowledging it, it hurts you over time.

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Speaker 5: And so I'm a person I.

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Speaker 3: Took early retirement from Vanderbilt in twenty seventeen largely because

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Speaker 3: of woke environment.

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Speaker 5: And when I look at.

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Speaker 3: Her, who is quote a distinguished professor, She won a

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Speaker 3: her dissertation, and now we know she is a seria pleasurist.

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Speaker 3: I believe that people like her who have had the

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Speaker 3: most elite education. She went to Phillips Exeter Academy for

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Speaker 3: her high school, then she went to Harvard University and

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Speaker 3: was tenured at Stanford Day. She education that America has

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Speaker 3: breaking work. I would say her work is mediocre at best.

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Speaker 3: It should not have wanted tenure at.

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Speaker 2: Stanford, Doctor Swain, You, no doubt have, I'm sure, thought

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Speaker 2: about what the future holds here in the environment where

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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court has weighed in most recently on affirmative

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Speaker 2: ice action in college admissions and deemed it unconstitutional. I

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Speaker 2: wanted to know if you think that, given all your

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Speaker 2: time in academia, that we are at a turning point

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Speaker 2: for both college admissions and also for the hiring of

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Speaker 2: professors when it comes to relying on diversity as a

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Speaker 2: primary really a game changing indicator of who they're going

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Speaker 2: to take or is this just going to be a

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Speaker 2: long series of lawsuits over many, many years to get

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Speaker 2: these schools to start changing how they admit students and

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Speaker 2: how they hire and tenure professors.

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Speaker 5: Well, well, certainly, I believe at a turning point.

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Speaker 3: And that's the one reason why this book, The Adversity

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Speaker 3: of diversity is important because it points out that CRT

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Speaker 3: and DER programs violate the Constitution and our civil rights

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Speaker 3: laws in the same way as race based the firm divection.

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Speaker 3: And I also contend that we can have diversity without discrimination.

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Speaker 3: All we have to do is go back to the

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Speaker 3: original intent of the Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four,

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Speaker 3: enforced the ego protection clause of the Constitution that does

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Speaker 3: not prohibit outreach to persons, but that outreach needs to

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Speaker 3: be done to qualified individuals of all races, and so

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Speaker 3: it should be the death deal for DEI programs left.

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Speaker 3: They have already declared that they're going to resist in

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Speaker 3: the same way as people resisted on the left and

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Speaker 3: on the right the nineteen fifty four Brown Versus Board

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Speaker 3: of Education school desegregation ruling.

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Speaker 5: It meant for me as a child, I did not.

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Speaker 3: Attend integrated schools until the late nineteen sixties because of

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Speaker 3: the massive resistance. Progressives have declared that they're going to

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Speaker 3: continue doing what they've always done, and I have been

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Speaker 3: encouraging white Americans, Asian Asian Americans, men, Christians, various groups

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Speaker 3: who are protected by the civil rights laws to exercise

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Speaker 3: and defend their rights by filing lawsuits.

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Speaker 5: And I know that lawsuits.

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Speaker 3: Are being one by white Americans and by men who

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Speaker 3: have been discriminated against because they are male, because you know,

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Speaker 3: they have a female boss or female bosses that have

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Speaker 3: accused them of being you know, toxic because they're male,

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Speaker 5: People, we have to promote.

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Speaker 3: You know, someone asked you cannot take advantage of this

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Speaker 3: scholarship or this promotion opportunity because of your race. That

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Speaker 3: is blatantly against the law. More Americans need to know

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Speaker 3: their rights, and one of the things I've tried to

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Speaker 3: do with my research is to make them aware. And

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Speaker 3: so even before the adversity of diversity, I published a book,

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Speaker 3: A Black Eye for America had critical race theory is

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Speaker 5: Both of those theories are.

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Speaker 3: Deeply rooted in neomoxism, and the end goal of neomoxism

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Speaker 3: is to bring down America, to usher in globalism, to

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Speaker 3: get rid of First world countries.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Swain, do you think if Claudine Gay the president

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Speaker 1: of Harvard or fired that it would be an improvement?

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Speaker 1: Do you think it would send an important message or

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Speaker 1: is all of this toxicity with which I think it's

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Speaker 1: fair to say she is a standard bearer for, is

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Speaker 1: it so deeply embedded in these universities now that it

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Speaker 1: doesn't really change anything because the next person up will

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Speaker 1: basically be a clone of doctor Gay in many ways

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Speaker 1: as well, and that they'll bring leave the same things.

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Speaker 1: What should happen in your mind here?

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Speaker 5: Ability?

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Speaker 3: And if Harvard University wants to be considered a world

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Speaker 3: class university again, they have to do something about doctor

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Speaker 3: Gay because doctor Gay is an embarrassment to education in America,

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Speaker 3: not just in higher education, but also K through twelve.

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Speaker 3: And my hope is that we are at a turning point.

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Speaker 3: And at universities, they're losing students because students are not

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Speaker 3: seeing a college education as a good investment. And I

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Speaker 3: have met parents and grandparents who are given that children

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Speaker 3: an option of taking that college money that was saved

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Speaker 3: up and starting businesses rather than going to a four

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Speaker 5: So they're losing students, they're losing respect.

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Speaker 3: They're at a point where they could actually do the

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Speaker 3: right thing, and all they have to do is to

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Speaker 3: bring back the original intent of higher education to exposed

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Speaker 3: students to a marketplace of ideas, to create an environment

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Speaker 3: wrestle with new ideas. That's how critical thinking takes place.

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Speaker 3: It cannot take place in indoctrination centers. And I would

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Speaker 3: also contend that it hurts racial and ethnic minorities the most,

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Speaker 3: for that person, I don't think so. And I said

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Speaker 3: in another interview, I cannot let this go.

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Speaker 5: I can't let it.

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Speaker 3: Go because the future of American education is at stake

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Speaker 3: and what is happening is harming everyone. And I intend

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Speaker 3: to stay on Doctor Gaye's not doctor gay because I

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Speaker 3: don't know about whether she earned her doctor, but President

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Speaker 3: Gay's case just like quite on.

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Speaker 1: Rice, I'm just your son, Doctor Swain. You're fantastic. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on with us and sharing your story,

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Speaker 1: and good luck with all those grandkids and great grandkids.

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Speaker 1: As Christmas gets closer, I'm sure you're super busy, as

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Speaker 1: many of us are with all of that, and we

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Speaker 1: appreciate you giving us that time.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: That is doctor Carol Swain. I encourage you guys to

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Speaker 1: check her out. She's active on social media and she

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Speaker 1: is a truth teller in a world where often truth

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Speaker 6: I think we've we've had individual conversations with everyone so

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Speaker 4: Quite a hostage video there, you know, really it actually

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Speaker 2: It was not an email mistake. We all understand. You know,

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Speaker 4: It's weird. Do you think this happens with like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the other one that stood out to me buck

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Speaker 1: Associated was he said he would prosecute Donald Trump if

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Speaker 1: he were a United States attorney, which I don't know

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Speaker 1: that he said that regular.

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Speaker 4: I know that to me is crazy. That's great.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean I was gonna ask this question, and

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Speaker 2: we again, we ran out of time, and I encourage

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Speaker 2: You can listen to the podcast on de Man. We'll

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Speaker 2: have it up probably by the time you're even listening to.

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Speaker 4: Us live here.

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Speaker 2: But I was gonna ask him, well, would you would

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Speaker 2: you if you you know, he's obviously not the prosecutor, right,

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Speaker 2: I was gonna ask him, would you pardon Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: if you became president, which one is not going to.

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Speaker 4: Happen, right, He's not going to become president, but whatever.

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Speaker 2: But I can't even ask that question because clearly, if

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Speaker 2: he would prosecute Donald Trump. He's not going to pardon

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump, right, So wow, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I think the key there is and this is

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Speaker 1: where I think he's on the bidding of the enemy Clay.

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Speaker 1: It's very sorry to inter up, but it's very frustrating.

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Speaker 1: You know, he used to be a Republican, but to

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Speaker 1: make that decision, regardless of what you think about Trump,

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Speaker 1: to set the precedent of trying to put the chief

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Speaker 1: political rival of the sitting president of the United States

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Speaker 1: in prison for the rest of his life. For anybody

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Speaker 1: who studies the law, whether you're a Democrat, Republican, or

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Speaker 1: an independent, I just think it's an incredibly irrational decision

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Speaker 1: that is going to lead to more instability in our country.

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Speaker 1: And don't think that Trump is going to be the

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Speaker 1: last that is used as an example here. They're trying

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Speaker 1: to set the precedent that they can do this.

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Speaker 2: I also like to remind people because I feel like

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Speaker 2: this doesn't get talked about much. Donald Trump, by his

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Speaker 2: own public admission, in twenty sixteen, decided to leave the

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Speaker 2: Hillary email situation alone. And because she broke the law,

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Speaker 2: and I know plenty of federal prosecutors I personally know

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Speaker 2: federal prosecutors who have told me I would have charged

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Speaker 2: that case.

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Speaker 4: They wouldn't have locked.

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Speaker 2: Her up for twenty years or whatever, but they would

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Speaker 2: have made her take a plea deal, admit guilt, you know,

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Speaker 2: be unable to hold the clearance.

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Speaker 4: Again, you know, I don't know, maybe thirty days or something.

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Speaker 2: And they send people to jail for a lot for

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Speaker 2: some things with classified information. Point being though, there should

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Speaker 2: have been some admission of wrongdoing and guilt made because

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Speaker 2: she definitely was under the recklessness component in that statute,

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Speaker 2: if there is such a thing as recklessness. And Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump made the decision for all of the Oh Trump

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Speaker 2: is hitler, and you know, yeah, and he's kind of

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Speaker 2: a brass knuckles guy. He said it's best for the

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Speaker 2: country to leave this alone. He could he could have

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Speaker 2: sent his attorney general after Hillary. I know that we

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Speaker 2: were told that never happens. It happens, folks, look at

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Speaker 2: this administration. He could have done that, nobody would have known.

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Speaker 2: But he didn't do it because it wasn't in the

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Speaker 2: interest of the country to prosecute his chief political rival.

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden is doing that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, there are people who were upset with

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Speaker 1: Trump because he was actually too generous. Some people thought

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Speaker 1: too Hillary, after all the lock her up chance, But

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Speaker 1: I think he was right on the president of Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's let the elections decide who the president is. And

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Speaker 1: you can't try and put your chief political adversary in prison.

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Speaker 1: I think it is absolutely unacceptable.

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Speaker 2: And I guess also just for me, I mean, this

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Speaker 2: really is what comes across when I see when I

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Speaker 2: would see Christy on stage. You know, he's making this

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Speaker 2: case about Donald Trump and how he's not fit and

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Speaker 2: everything else. And I sit here and I go, you know,

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Speaker 2: what really determines fitness the electorate and the guys.

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Speaker 4: That's the entire purpose of a democratic system.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this this argument, oh he's not fit, I

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Speaker 2: sit here and I say, I mean, he was a

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Speaker 2: really good president and the country was in much better shape.

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Speaker 4: There's no question about that, you know.

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Speaker 2: And whenever I start to say this too, I'm honestly

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Speaker 2: really sick of I get some of the DeSantis uh,

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Speaker 2: you know supporters in the audience. Oh, you're on for Trump,

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Speaker 2: we said here, and we're just living in reality, folks.

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Speaker 2: DeSantis is a phenomenal governor. Phenomenal governor of the state

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Speaker 2: of Florida, a true conservative, a brilliant guy. I think

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Speaker 2: DeSantis is great. I think Trump is great. I think

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Speaker 2: Vivek is really interesting in a music and very smart.

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Speaker 2: Like I mean, I like these people. I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to try one for the benefit of the other. Obviously

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Speaker 2: we don't endorse here, but when I see Governor Christy,

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Speaker 2: I just feel like he's turned into Captain Ahab And

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Speaker 2: you know, Trump is the white whale for him, and

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Speaker 2: it's just it's not about the country anymore. For a

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Speaker 2: lot of these people. They it's like a Trump derangement

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Speaker 2: syndrome thing. And I would have said this to him,

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Speaker 2: And we'll have him back at some point, although a

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Speaker 2: lot of gonna yellow us for having him on at all,

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Speaker 2: but I will have him back because I think it's

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Speaker 2: important to fight it out on some of these issues.

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Speaker 4: You know, that's for me.

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Speaker 1: Look, if you just want people to and I would

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Speaker 1: put the Christy conversation we had in the same category

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Speaker 1: we did with Mike Pince. If we have disagreements with candidates,

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Speaker 1: do you want us to just pretend that everything is

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Speaker 1: hunky dory? I think you actually conflict is good. That's

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Speaker 1: how you reach a resolution. I think Christy's really wrong

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Speaker 1: on prosecuting Trump, and I think he's really wrong on

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Speaker 1: the trans kit issue. And I can't get past both

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Speaker 1: of those because to me, they are integral questions that ever,

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Speaker 1: everyone who is voting in the presidential primary, whether you're

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Speaker 1: a Democrat or Republican, should want the answer on and.

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Speaker 2: I will, I will give credit, and this will get

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Speaker 2: me some booze from the from the from the bleachers.

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Speaker 2: He's willing to come on and fight it out a

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Speaker 2: little bit. You know, there are other credit we give

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Speaker 2: credit to anybody.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you guys should see.

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Speaker 2: You know, we try to get Mitch McConnell when he

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Speaker 2: sells out to come on and you know, crickets, that's

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Speaker 2: never gonna happen, right, And we try to get some

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Speaker 2: of these people to come on the show. So at

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Speaker 2: least credit to people who are willing to come on

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Speaker 2: and defend their In this case, I mean, the trans

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Speaker 2: kid thing is just that's just a non starter for

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Speaker 2: the GOP. I don't know, I don't know why he's

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Speaker 2: so wrong on that. I know he hates Trump, I

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Speaker 2: get that, Why is he so wrong on the trans

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Speaker 2: kid thing. I don't see why he doesn't understand that

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Speaker 1: Parent of four kids, I don't know if it's sometimes

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Speaker 1: you're influenced by the community you're in more so than

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Speaker 1: if you're over eighteen and you decide that you want

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Speaker 1: to change your gender, I don't think that's probably gonna

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Speaker 1: I appreciate all of you hanging out with us as

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Speaker 1: to the podcast. In Theory Buck, I am soon to

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Speaker 1: depart for Australia with my three kids and my wife,

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Speaker 1: but the Travis household has been torn asunder this morning.

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Speaker 1: Our flight to Australia was canceled this morning, so I

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Speaker 1: have no earthly idea what the travel situation is actually

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Speaker 1: going to look like. And this is not an easy

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Speaker 1: flight to take in the first place. So I think

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Speaker 1: able to get to Australia, and if we do, then

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Speaker 1: I will be there for Christmas and New Years and

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Speaker 1: be back with you guys after the first of the year.

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Speaker 1: But it's also possible we don't go anywhere. So this

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Speaker 1: is like a whole bit frustrated. You can't abandon We

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Speaker 1: got a few things here. First of all, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: we got a few pilots in the audience here who

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Speaker 1: could probably swoop over. It's a sixteen hour flight. I'm

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Speaker 1: not asking for a you know, a quick stop over here.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of true specific.

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Speaker 2: You're not you're not running late for the big game

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Speaker 2: in Tuscaloosa or something like You're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Have mentioned this earlier in the show, so evidently Delta

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Speaker 1: canceled our flight because we had an American flight to

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Speaker 1: get us to la and somehow some idiot at Delta

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Speaker 1: canceled our flight to Sydney, Australia, and so now we're scrambling.

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Speaker 1: Canceled the flight still exist, they just canceled our reservation.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how this is even possible, but the

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Speaker 1: house has been a total mess as we're trying to

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Speaker 1: get all this resolved in time to be able to

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Speaker 1: get there.

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Speaker 4: So I don't I've never even heard of this happening.

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Speaker 1: They just said, hey, you don't have a We took

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Speaker 1: all five of your tickets and sold them to someone else,

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Speaker 1: and now you don't have a flight to Australia.

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Speaker 4: Sean might be stuck in.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if if Hannity's plane is to be

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Speaker 1: fair even big enough to get to Australia. This is

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Speaker 1: like a fifteen or sixteen hour flight, So Delta stop

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Speaker 1: at a few Pacific islands, it'll be fine. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how Delta is this incompetent. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: they have managed to screw this up, but evidently we

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Speaker 1: don't have flights now, so so I could be in

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Speaker 1: La and just hanging out. So, you know, maybe we'll

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Speaker 1: and the Walk of Fame and Grummin Theater and all

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Speaker 1: that area.

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Speaker 5: LA.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's plenty of places to sleep in LA.

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Speaker 1: They'll let you sleep anywhere, so so who knows.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you could theoretically turn this into a family camping trip.

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Speaker 2: At the Hollywood Sign, we could camp. We could go

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Speaker 2: to Santa Monica, which is lovely. We could sleep right

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Speaker 2: on the beach in a tent. I could probably get

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Speaker 2: my boy Gavin Newsom to swing by. We could have

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Speaker 2: a nice chardonnay, maybe a nice reestling, and just chill

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Speaker 2: and watch the waves crash.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know if he would get there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he would cuddle you by the sunset.

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Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom quite the same way after you trashed him

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Speaker 2: when DeSantis gave him that beatdown.

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Speaker 1: Hey, it wasn't just me trashing him. His own wife

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Speaker 1: wouldn't let him continue to debate. If your wife throws

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Speaker 1: in the towel on your debate, that is not a

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Speaker 1: good sign for you for how things have been going.

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Speaker 4: I'll just toss that out.

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Speaker 2: So have you gotten any good, any any particularly interesting

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Speaker 2: or noteworthy Australia travel advice that you wish to share

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Speaker 2: with the broader audience across America.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I've actually gotten tons of good advice because

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Speaker 1: a lot of the Fox people are off so Murdo

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Speaker 1: so yeah. Uh and a lot of the top executives

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Speaker 1: at Box are Australians. So my good friend Ed Hartman,

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Speaker 1: who is at AUSSI, has married an American girl.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: But I told him, I was like, okay, so if

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Speaker 1: you were taking your family, you know Australia, well, obviously

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Speaker 1: you're born and raised there, you've lived there for much

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Speaker 1: of your life. Where do we need to go and

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Speaker 1: what do we need to see? And he the one

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Speaker 1: thing he said was Air's Rock, which I think they've

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Speaker 1: renamed to like Ularu or whatever the new name of

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Speaker 1: it is to make sure that they don't offend people.

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Speaker 1: It's a monster trip into the center part of the country.

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Speaker 1: And he said, by and large, that's not worth making

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Speaker 1: that massive trip.

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Speaker 2: Well, see how it all goes. But we think Clay's

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Speaker 2: gonna have a great vacation as it stands right now.

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Speaker 2: Marie's Christmas to everybody. By the way, I should say

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Speaker 2: an Happy New Year.

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Speaker 4: Yeap.

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Speaker 2: That stands right now. I'll be at the helm here

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Speaker 2: next week, so things are gonna get wild. I'll be

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Speaker 2: here solo, but let's hope Clay makes this flight all right.

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Speaker 2: Talk to you Monday,