WEBVTT - 105: The Great Deflation 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:04.400 It's three thirty am in the abandoned offices of Dr 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:08.920 Simon Orion in Beverly Hills, and you're listening Tonight Call. 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:25.320 Welcome to Nightcall, a call in show for our dystopian reality. 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:29.400 I'm Emily Oshida. I am in Los Angeles as always, 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:32.959 and with me on the other line are Molly Lambert 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:39.479 and Tess Lynch. Hello, Hello, and Happy plastic surgery April 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:45.120 to everybody. Happy plastic surgery April. We're finally out of 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:48.240 spring break. We're down with spring break. Springbreak is over. 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:52.479 To quote the Governor of Florida or the mayor of Miami, 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:56.560 I can't remember which. Um. We are going into our 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:59.720 new theme month about plastic surgery, but not just plastic 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:04.080 surge dree cosmetic procedures of all kinds and and physical 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:08.320 rebirth of all kinds, physical reinvention. Maybe that's like a 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:11.200 good way to think about it. I am. We plan 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:17.640 this obviously long ago, before our pandemic days, but I 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:21.080 still think we're pretty psyched to delve into the world 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:25.319 of cosmetic procedures for the month of April, because April 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:31.440 is all about rebirth when you think about it. Springtime, Yeah, baby, 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:37.880 chickens hatching um New faces hatching, New Faces hatching story. 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:39.960 I know I've been saying that it's a great time 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:42.040 for the birds to take over, that the birds should 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:45.720 do the birds right now. I read that birds are 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:49.000 actually having to sing less loud now because they're not 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:51.760 having to like scream over human beings as much anymore. 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:58.440 What yeah you heard me? Are they whispering? No? But 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:02.720 normally they have to out over traffic and over humans, 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:07.000 and now they can just sort of sing in a 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:10.320 more natural tone. They don't have to yell over us. 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:13.560 I love that for them too. She also wrote a 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:16.080 story about how birds speech is just like human speech, 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.960 how it like baby birds babble in the same way 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:22.160 that human babies do and then learn all the calls 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:26.760 and stuff. That's very cute. Um, well, I think we 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.280 all feel kind of like baby birds right now, like 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:33.000 kind of you know, not used to outside and blinking 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:36.440 and covered and fluid. Um, And we can't go anywhere, 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:39.760 we can't fly. Yeah, we'll fall out of our apartments 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:43.040 if we try to leave, to stay at home and 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:50.360 feed each other worms. Yeah. Um so. Plastic surgery April, 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:53.640 Cosmetic procedure April. However, you want to call it. It's 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:57.480 obviously it's a little bit difficult right now to um 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:01.400 partake of any of these procedures. Although I did have 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.560 the thought as as soon as this all started to 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:08.760 really become real here, Um, that it would be an 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:13.280 incredible time to to do your your recovery from a 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:17.560 any kind of major surgical procedure. It would have would 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.079 have would have been a great time to to get 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:23.840 your nose done, if that's what you wanted, because nobody 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:25.920 will remember what you used to look like by the 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:30.880 time everyone gets out. Kylie, who I'm sure we'll come 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:34.160 up during this month a lot. She said that her 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:37.280 social media absence, where she was off social media the 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:40.840 whole time she was pregnant, it was like helped her 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:46.760 to prepare for the coronavirus lockdown, being like that's the 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:49.600 only way she could envision not being on social media 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:53.520 limited activity. She hid in her house all the time 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:55.920 so that there wouldn't be any photos of her pregnant 0:03:55.960 --> 0:04:01.360 the whole time. That's so deranged. It's I've said this before, 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.360 but I would like there to be a Sofia Coppola 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:09.560 movie about this. Kylie just wandering the grounds, Um, that's 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:11.560 kind of what the New Drake videos like. He's just 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:15.720 wandering the winter palace. If only we all had winter 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:21.640 palaces to wander. Um. Well, um, one person got in 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:27.360 there their injections right before the ship really hit the fan. Um. 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:30.520 I think it's pretty well known now about Kelly rippas 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:35.320 um last minute coronavirus botox session that she got. I 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:38.320 think on Friday the thirteenth, which I think of is 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:40.480 kind of well I think of I now think of 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:43.920 like the eleventh as being the first, as like as 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:47.120 being like day one, because I did Tom Hanks get it. 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.120 That's the tom That's the Tom Hanks day. That's the 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.360 NBA day. We've discussed this on here. That's the day. 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:54.599 I think. So this was like two days after that, 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:58.320 still early in all this, but still like like I 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:00.360 I will be, I'm gonna have a lot of radical 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:04.160 transparency this month. Um. But but just for starters, I 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:09.760 did have a microderm uh scheduled for Friday, and I 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:13.400 canceled it because I had a haircut and a facial 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:17.560 on the same day and I decided to get the haircut. Um. 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.200 It was a Sophie's choice of vanity, and I think 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:23.760 I made the right choice. Um, not that any of 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:28.440 it matters. That's what's funny about it. It's like so 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.280 so that people can stay groomed, like while they're posting 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:35.960 from quarantine. That's it. That's the only reason. And stay 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:40.360 tune for so many things too. Martha Stewart posted like 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:45.080 an ode to all of her beauty team today being like, 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.880 I missed getting my nails done, I missed getting my 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.880 hair done, like I miss like going to my dermatologist 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:54.800 and just sort of being like, don't don't try to 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:57.800 do this and don't try to do it yourself, just 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:00.800 basically what she said, we'll try. You tried to do 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:04.600 it yourself. Yeah, I don't care. I mean, that's this 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:08.200 is my thing, is that I I really don't care 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.440 what I look like at all at this point in 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:12.960 my life. I'm sure I'll change back. Um. I go 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:16.360 through phases. But yeah, I cut my bangs. No, first 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:19.360 I cut split ends. I was outside, which was when 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.479 I was talking about my about this with my mom. 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:23.720 She was like, but where was the mirror And I 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:30.160 was like, no, there was no mirror. It was nature nature. Um. 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:32.560 And then I did my bangs and I didn't like 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:34.880 how I did my bangs. But I'm living with that. 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.000 And then I was like, what if I just cut 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.760 like an inch off my hair? How hard could it 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:42.760 be to make that look great? And it turns out 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.960 like a little harder than I can handle the answer 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:48.640 now it just flips out at the bottom. You're not 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.920 the only person I know who's cut bangs. Lain Con 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:54.640 always cut my own bangs. I I didn't cut them 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:58.400 from scratch. That's great, Well, Laine Con gave herself bangs 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:01.680 are gastolene um. I just think a lot of people 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:04.320 you get the cabin fever and then you want to 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:06.920 take it out on yourself in some way. Well, you 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:09.720 want to change something, and I think that getting bangs 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.600 is one of the easiest ways to make a big change. 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:16.040 And you're like a breakup haircut because it's like a traumatic, 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.560 traumatic incident, so people are like trying to reassert control. 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:23.480 It's more just that you know that no one will see, 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.600 so it doesn't really matter. Like the worst thing about 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:28.400 when you cut your own bangs and you screw them 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:31.120 up and then you realize the next day that you 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:33.760 have to like go to work or go to coffee 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.160 and like see people and they're going to know exactly 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:38.680 what you did, but you don't want to talk about it, 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.200 and neither today. But it's like we can all acknowledge 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.160 like it doesn't look good. We could lean into that 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:48.720 more too. My boyfriend did a Joe exotic mustache, UM, 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:52.880 and I love it. You love it? Yeah. My question was, 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:56.000 how do you feel about that? I'm so into it. 0:07:56.080 --> 0:08:02.720 I'm like mustaches. Um. But also he was like trying 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:05.360 to get me to give him a Travis Pickle haircut 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:08.920 as a fun joke, and I was like, I'll do it, 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.560 I'll do it. And then like two hours later he's like, 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:12.920 are we doing it? And I was like, I don't. 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:18.600 I don't think I can do it right now? Too late. Um. Yeah, 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:22.280 I mean I think that everybody, like I think that 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:24.600 it's a very natural thing to want to change your 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:28.680 appearance when like when out of boredom or out of 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:32.240 like a seeming lack of control over anything else. You know. 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:35.000 I feel like it's a total trope for like the 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.800 cutting the hair out of out of angst in a 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:41.520 movie like um, girl shaves her head or whatever. Um 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:47.680 if this very um, it's like a troope at this point. Um, yeah, 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:50.079 but we can't. Like I I just imagine, like, I mean, 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:54.560 people are getting like at least at least injections, Like 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:56.840 people are probably getting house calls for that. Don't you 0:08:56.840 --> 0:09:00.720 think ends on? Do you have to be super super 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:05.200 wealthy to get that? Right now, I imagine the Kardashians 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.440 have somebody on the team. Well, you were saying you 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:12.079 thought that that Kim was like losing her losing her 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:14.679 face or something, and well, I think her face always 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:17.600 looks weird in motion because it's like so many different 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:21.160 faces layered on top of each other. It's just you know, 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:25.240 like all the Kardashian surgery faces, it's like it's made 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:27.920 for still photographs and whenever you see it in motion, 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:32.000 it's like very uncanny. Yeah, well there's also the face 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:35.960 that's made for photographs also just doesn't look great in 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:39.760 real life even still. You know, like there's something that 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.440 you can see what's been done. You can see which 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:45.640 parts move in which parts don't. So it's really distracting 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:47.440 when you're talking with someone who's had a ton of 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:50.320 work done because it just jumps out at you, but 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.760 in photos it doesn't. Yeah. Now, I've had a few 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:57.680 occasions where I've like gotten lunch and Beverly Hills after 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.280 a meeting or something like that. And then you see 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:03.440 like one of the real extreme jobs come in and 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:06.160 it's somebody like in a picture. If I saw it, 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.920 like if that person was like a minor celebrity or something, 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.760 I saw him in a in like US Weekly or whatever, 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:14.320 I wouldn't think anything of their face. But in person, 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:18.120 I'm just like, WHOA, that's not how a human normally looks. 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:21.360 It's very yeah, it's very much made for photographs. It's 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.840 very much not made for for face to face. Isn't 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:28.560 that strange? Wouldn't you rather look good in life than 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:32.199 in a picture? I guess it depends on how like 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:35.240 like the ratio of of your interactions, Like if you're 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:38.000 somebody who people who the vast majority of people in 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:42.640 the world interact with via photographs or Instagram or something 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:45.920 like that, then then maybe you you do you run 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:49.840 the calculation, and it's worth it to look a natural 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:53.480 in person if you look ideal over these different channels, 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:55.600 Like I don't know, I mean, I think you know, 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:58.880 there was a moment where we crossed a threshold into 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:02.360 like very young people getting plastic surgery, which I had 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:05.960 always existed in some form, but you know, the joke 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:09.120 of it was Kylie, right, Like I was reading this Klie, 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:11.599 but like you know, like Marilyn Monroe got a no 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:13.440 shop when she was young, like people get no shops 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:16.960 when they're younger, but this was more like people doing 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:23.120 stuff that's like traditionally was like anti aging stuff. Associate. Yeah, 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.200 talks like remember when lip injections were like the joke 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.679 from First Wives Club or it was just an Angelina 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.880 Jolie thing or something like that was like even though 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:34.800 I don't think she even has them by people, she 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.800 doesn't have them, but it was like everybody was her 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:41.160 mouth or something. Well, the Kylie thing also was obviously 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:44.880 part of like the Kardashians general thing of like appropriating 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:49.360 uh black pete and white washing it and I get 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:52.640 the butt in the lips and then yeah, you're good 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:56.160 to go. It's yeah, I mean the Kylie stuff. I 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:58.800 will say, we can kind of go around and maybe 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:01.120 get into our general added it's going into all of this. 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:05.959 I tend to be pretty agnostic about all of it 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:09.559 and kind of like do what thou will about plastic surgery. 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.560 But I do find the stuff with like really young people. 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.720 And I do find like Kylie to be pretty depressing, 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:20.280 just because I don't know, Like I it's such a 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:24.080 it's not even like uh an enhancement of something that 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.680 exists already. It's like getting a whole new It's like 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.000 getting a shirt, but like a shirt you have to 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.800 wear all the time, or something like a completely like 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.360 like it. It has nothing to do with what she 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:38.800 looks like, right, but it's it's like, I just feel 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:43.280 like she's in such a weird specific greenhouse for this 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:47.240 to happen, which is just like her mom is essentially 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:49.080 like running a cult of which she is one of 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.200 the cult members. And I was really hopeful she would 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:52.960 be the one who would break away and be like 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:57.560 more like Courtney, but just even more like I don't 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:01.280 want any part of this, you know. But obviously because 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.199 everybody called her the ugly one, that was the whole thing. 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:07.240 She was like the ugly one, especially compared to Kendall, 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:09.560 where everybody was like Kendall's a model. Just reminded me 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:13.480 of that y a book Jacob have I loved. You know, 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.480 it's like your sister's perfect and you suck and in 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:20.200 the Kardashian economy of attention that means like, we hate 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:23.200 you because you get the least attention. And then she 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:28.679 got the lip injections and completely changed everything about herself 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:32.880 and became the most popular one by sort of like 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:35.760 beating him at her own game and being like, I'm 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:40.320 like you, but younger. Yeah, And there's something like and 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:43.360 she's totally rewarded for it too. It's like nobody, I 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.400 mean obviously people are like like, oh, it's so obviously 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.120 what she's gotten done, but like she's still the most 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:52.040 popular person, and like I can't get a handle on 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:55.400 even what the appeal is of her. Really, I don't 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:58.600 think anyone it's like, Okay, so like any woman has 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.240 had the experience of like being treated better when you're 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:05.320 wearing makeup, you know. I think it's like that on 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.520 like a grand scale. It's like people are going to 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:10.640 treat you better if you're hot because they think that 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.400 the aura of hotness and success will rub off on 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:18.960 them in some way. Um Like, I feel like there 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:21.440 have just been times in my life when there was 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:24.720 like some kind of inflated attention for something that had 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:28.080 nothing to do with me, where you're aware that it's 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.840 not really about you. But if you change something physically 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.640 about yourself forever and then you're also like, but it's 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:37.320 not really mine, that just seems like a mind fuck. Yeah, 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:40.880 I think that. I think about that, especially with like 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.600 housewives and stuff, like at a certain point, like do 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.160 you even still like how like I'm talking about real housewives, 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:48.680 Like at what point do you just not recognize yourself 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.280 in the mirror and then like like you're having a 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:55.360 split of personality based on this other, like this different 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:57.360 looking person that you've created. I don't know, this is 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:59.720 all very interesting. I think there's people who get plastic 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:02.400 sur tree with like a specific outcome in mind. You know, 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:04.800 they're like, my face doesn't look the way I imagine 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:07.320 it looking, and then they like do something and it does. Maybe. 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.920 But I also think there's a type of person who's 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:17.000 especially abetted by social media, who gets addicted to plastic 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:19.400 surgery and just getting whatever the new thing is because 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:23.360 they're always introducing new procedures that you can get um 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:27.040 And I think those people will never be happy because 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:30.440 it'll just never be enough. It's like you're always going 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.600 to still feel bad about yourself because you're not like 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:37.040 fixing the real problem, which is low self esteem. Yeah. Um, well, 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:39.360 we're going to take a break real quick. When we 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:43.360 come back, we're going to do a brief chicken on 0:15:43.480 --> 0:16:01.080 pandemic times and then more plastic surgery. Welcome back to 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:05.440 night Call. Um, So, our listener Brian Early, who's a 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:07.680 public health physician who was on the show a couple 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:11.040 of weeks ago, gave us a nightcall just to sort 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:14.000 of fill in some of the questions we had last 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:19.320 week about what we are allowed to do right now. Um, 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:23.520 so we're going to just play that and uh and discuss. Hi, guys, 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.120 this is Dr Brian Early in Denver. I'm calling in 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:29.840 to respond to your coronavirus questions from last week. First off, 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:33.040 Molly's right, the delivery drivers, grocery store workers, and sanitation 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:35.280 folks are on the front lines of the coronavirus response. 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:37.840 They're the ones making it possible for us to practice 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:40.920 social distancing and frankly, by the time people are showing 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:43.040 up at the hospital feeling sick, the horses out of 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:46.360 the barn. As far as take out, restaurant workers generally 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:48.880 have much better food handling practices than people cooking in 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.880 their home so take out is likely very safe, and 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:54.120 while the rest of getting coronavirus from packaging or other 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:57.160 surfaces is in zero. To cause his zse, the virus 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:58.960 is hanging out in the cardboard, would have to survive 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:01.960 shipping and temperature swing, get transferred to your hand, and 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:03.800 then make it up into your eyes or the interior 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.680 of your nose. That's a long hazardous trip for a virus, 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.000 and much less likely than droplets from sneeze or cough 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:12.640 and make it into your airway. Instacrat workers and other 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:15.359 delivery drivers are probably much higher risk from coronavirus and 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:18.560 people able to remain at home, But from a population perspective, 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:20.800 it may actually be better to expose this small number 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:23.400 of people who can only get sick once each than 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:26.320 having every person go to the story individually. In the 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.920 same way, many clinics will choose a small number of 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:32.000 people to do all their coronavirus testing. Um all these 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:34.080 high risk workers have a right to a fair wage, 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:37.880 though and appropriate protection in their workplace. Finally, I want 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:40.359 to emphasize the importance of doing things that support mental health, 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.480 including finding ways to go outside. In fact, air currents 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.520 and UV radiation from the sun probably make interactions outdoors 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:49.679 safer than indoors, especially when keeping a good distance between 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:53.080 people and not sharing objects. Thank you, guys, Let's stay 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:56.560 safe out there. So I feel like we have permission 0:17:56.920 --> 0:18:01.040 to go for a walk. I'm gonna say this is 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:04.000 my question, which is not exactly answered. So this is 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:08.200 like more questions for either a doctor earlier whomever. Now 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:10.959 that we're all supposed to be wearing masks, not medical, 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:15.240 great mass, but cloth masks. Should we wear those on walks? 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:19.040 Because I really don't want to, and so I'm looking 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:23.480 for justification to not. But at the same time, I 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:27.119 mean people say that when um, other people are exercising, 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:29.480 if you encounter a runner or something, you're supposed to 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:31.680 give an extra four feet for a total of ten 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:36.240 ft between you. Uh and but so obviously I guess 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:38.880 it would be safer to wear a mask. But I'm 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:41.680 finding the mask so uncomfortable, you guys. I mean, I'm 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:44.720 wearing them as much and whenever I go into a store, 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:48.720 which is very infrequently, I wear them. But they're so uncomfortable. 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:54.639 Uh So, yeah, my understanding is that you kind of 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:57.000 you have to wear them if you're outside of your 0:18:57.000 --> 0:19:01.560 own environment. Basically even walking I think so. I mean, 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:05.080 I also see so many people walking my I tweeted 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:08.159 about this, but my street has basically turned into like 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:12.960 running into which is really annoying. Sorry, So there's so 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.440 many people out and and and I've watched the trends 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:22.920 in in a social distancing and and protective gear change, 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:26.200 and now pretty much everybody is wearing masks out there. 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:28.359 And I don't think it's a bad idea, especially because 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.240 sometimes you are on a narrower street and like if 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:33.720 a runner goes by, you definitely have the breeze of 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:37.439 that person. It's so stressful there. I think it's a 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:41.840 better safe than sorry situation, and that you know, we 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:45.680 probably should have been normalizing wearing the masks for weeks already, 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:48.840 and that we're just getting on it now sort of 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:51.400 par for the course of how fucked up the whole 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:55.680 thing has been. But I think the science is not 0:19:56.160 --> 0:20:00.000 People just don't know. Fully. I read something scary yesterday. 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.639 It was like, oh, also, maybe it's transmitted by breathing 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:05.919 and talking. I mean, it seems clear that it is 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:11.040 because of the choir. The choir thing is I mean, 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:14.760 I feel bad for all those people there but I 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:17.600 would say, even without having read a single article about this, 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:21.240 a choir seems like the worst place to go in 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:25.600 a pandemic because everybody's breathing loudly, which is also known 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:29.159 as singing. Right, well, I think if they had just 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:33.280 come out with stronger advice about this in the first place, 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:37.040 if they had heard on the side of scaring people 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:41.120 more rather than trying to make this insane terrifying thing 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:46.240 seemed less scary, which is like, didn't work at all. Um, Yeah, 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:48.560 we just we should have We should have looked at 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:52.080 what other countries did that were successful. My mom is 0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:56.920 in a choir, and she they canceled her choir practice 0:20:57.160 --> 0:20:59.800 pretty early on. I feel like it was around that 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:03.879 May eleventh time or Marchial line time or something. But 0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:06.480 they've been doing zoom meetings, Like I don't think they've 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:08.920 been doing actual practice, but I think they've just been 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:10.520 doing it as a meet up because it was like 0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:14.320 such a big kind of social gathering too, so which 0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:17.960 is good. But shout out to Emily's mom, big supporter 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:22.120 of the pods. Listening right now, all gardening man. My 0:21:22.280 --> 0:21:25.119 parents told me they talked to my great aunt who's 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:28.520 like the last of the sort of Holocaust escapees and 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:32.560 my family. Her name is Friedle. She's awesome and she 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:35.320 is in like a retirement home where they had to 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:39.080 isolate everybody, you know. But they said they talked to 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:41.320 her on the phone and that she was like I'm okay. 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:46.040 So that to me has been like, well, if she 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:49.720 can like be okay about it, you know, she's obviously 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:53.800 lived through worse. So yeah, that's the attitude I'm taking 0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:57.439 to it. I am this is this is slightly off topic, 0:21:57.480 --> 0:22:00.760 but I watched it's on Criterion. I watched UM Cover 0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:04.119 Girl last night. It's like this Charles vied Or Technicolor 0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:06.840 musical at Jen Kelly and Rita Hayworth in it, like 0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:09.760 perfect fluff. I was taking your que Molly of just watching. 0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:13.600 That's all I've been doing. It's watching musical TCM, not 0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:17.040 for dark too. It's always fair Weather. It's actually really cynical, 0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:20.200 but it's still like cynical about television, so it actually 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:25.280 feels on brand. Well. Cover Girl is like a ninety four, 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:29.840 like right, you know, Peak Warriors, um musical, and there's 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:31.919 this whole number in it that I posted on my 0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:36.240 Twitter about rationing that I just thought was so charming 0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:40.280 because the attitude was like, yeah, like I don't know, 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:42.959 Like I know, it sucks stating in and everything and 0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:45.159 like not being able to get certain things. But if 0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:48.919 I think about doing that for like like four years 0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:52.760 or however long that the war effort was truly underway 0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:55.480 and like you know, on the home front. I know 0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:57.560 all these words because I had the Molly doll, the 0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:04.480 American goal doll, which about but like a Victory gardens 0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:07.439 she had. I always was mad that her name was 0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:09.640 Molly because I thought she was the most boring one, 0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:13.760 the best funky, and she was. She always had a scheme. 0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:16.960 She always like, if your name is Molly and you're 0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:21.760