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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. It is a Cowboys Wednesday here on
Speaker 1: mix Shots, but it's not like a normal Cowboys Wednesday,
Speaker 1: because this is a Monday night weekend. This is Eagles Week.
Speaker 1: Welcome to mix Shots, Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola, and future
Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Famer Everson Walls is here on
Speaker 1: the show. Hello Everson, Hello Bill. I'm looking at a
Speaker 1: list here. It looks like he's gonna have to wait
Speaker 1: another view. Yeah. I was gonna say, I'm get a
Speaker 1: little pissed off here name, But you're not. You're not
Speaker 1: on that list. You're not on Modern Guy not. They
Speaker 1: have eighteen finals every SENTI five and Iver Community. The
Speaker 1: finalist consists of fifteen Modern Day and Senior finalists. Cliff branchs, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Cliff branch that's I mean, you can pick any finals
Speaker 1: guy from a senior and I gonna yeah he deserves
Speaker 1: it because I mean, so many guys missing yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a love him A Cliff Brands. They need to put
Speaker 1: it more Art McNally, uh, and coach Dick Vermill. I
Speaker 1: mean I deserve it, right, yeah, I mean when I
Speaker 1: didn't make it, Uh, they tried to get me to
Speaker 1: come on the bus, like, Okay, you didn't make it,
Speaker 1: we need to downstairs in five minutes. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? You're gonna do. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I'll beat that when I get ready. They that senior
Speaker 1: class every one hundred years. Yeah, there you go, I
Speaker 1: make it the next hundred. Yeah. So they ended up
Speaker 1: when I stepped on the bus because I was so
Speaker 1: late and they're waiting on him, and they said, I
Speaker 1: thought you made it. All the boys on that at
Speaker 1: some of those Ty Law was on the bus, Isaac Bruce,
Speaker 1: I believe it was on the bus, and I said,
Speaker 1: they said, man, you deserve to make it. My one
Speaker 1: statement was we all deserved to make yeah, right, I
Speaker 1: mean we all deserved to be and Joja Kobe didn't
Speaker 1: make it, and so yeah, I mean, you know, as
Speaker 1: much as I fussed and complained about not making it,
Speaker 1: you know, any guy, I mean even that year Kramer
Speaker 1: finally made it and Robert Bazil doctor doom. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: I mean, what am I gonna say? Man? I need
Speaker 1: erved to get I mean I was fans of those guys,
Speaker 1: so it's crazy. Well, and I show the modern How
Speaker 1: many are there? One hundred and twenty eight or something
Speaker 1: like that. I don't know why I got one twenty
Speaker 1: three on my mind. It might be one twenty two,
Speaker 1: it might be one twenty eight. Okay, did you go through?
Speaker 1: You found the Cowboys on here? I found DeMarcus Square.
Speaker 1: I saw Darren Woodson as I was walking door. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really am. I'll get it out here. I got
Speaker 1: Eric Williams, got Cowboys Eric with Okay, okay, okay, let's start.
Speaker 1: You want to start with the quarterbacks on our list here? Yes?
Speaker 1: All right? And there even though Tony Romo is eligible,
Speaker 1: there's no Tony Romo on the list, right, Yes, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna list all of these, but I will
Speaker 1: do the quarterbacks for you. Former Cowboy Randall Cunningham. Yeah
Speaker 1: he did as a quarterback. He actually played pretty well.
Speaker 1: Jake Delane Boomerissias and Jeff Garcia, Dave Craig, Donovan McNabb,
Speaker 1: and Steve McNair Dave Craig because he played nineteen years
Speaker 1: teams well, plus he had a heck of a wide
Speaker 1: receiver that he had to throw too. He busted me
Speaker 1: up a couple of times. Largentgen. Yes, I wouldn't give
Speaker 1: it to Craig, I give it to Lodgings. But he
Speaker 1: played like with eight teams I think, okay, nineteen. For
Speaker 1: some reason, I only remember him with Seattle. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he was all over the place, that's all I remember.
Speaker 1: So I read his bio and it had you know,
Speaker 1: ranked seventeenth in this and twentieth than this, and it
Speaker 1: got way down to the end and it was a
Speaker 1: nextra little paragraph on his whip whip keep whatever. I
Speaker 1: can't say it, try to try to say wiki, leave
Speaker 1: it at wiki. At the bottom it said he is
Speaker 1: the all time leader in fumbles. Hmm, Well I wouldn't
Speaker 1: manage if you played them many years. Yeah, yeah you
Speaker 1: can as a quarterback. Okay. So Dave Craig played twelve
Speaker 1: years with Seattle, that's what we remember. I remember two
Speaker 1: years in Kansas City, so he would have been there
Speaker 1: with Mike McCarthy. In fact, when Mike McCarthy was at
Speaker 1: backage the city as an assistant. There, there we go
Speaker 1: Marty Schottenheimer Lions in ninety four, Arizona ninety five, Bears
Speaker 1: ninety six in the Tennessee Oilers ninety seven. And wow,
Speaker 1: so I said eight? How many was it? One? Two, three,
Speaker 1: four or five? Six? Three time pro bowler? All right?
Speaker 1: So running backs Herschel Herschel former cowboy Herschel Walker. I
Speaker 1: don't know Eddie George also a kick returner, it says
Speaker 1: next to him, Hey, yeah, you got what? Okay? All right?
Speaker 1: Wide receivers Ricky Warters don't side, but Vicky Warters should
Speaker 1: be in true priest Holmes, man, I saw that running backs,
Speaker 1: Well what about lorenz O'Neil, lorenz O'Neil. Well, okay, if
Speaker 1: we're gonna if we're gonna go Taylor, all right, if
Speaker 1: we're gonna include fullbacks, then Daryl Johnston. Yeah, include Dale Johns.
Speaker 1: You've been putting in Vin Springs, Ron Spring There you go,
Speaker 1: Ron stats, those stats? Ye, all right? Um, Wide receivers
Speaker 1: to toy still hadn't made it. No, man, No, he's
Speaker 1: got an asks. That mean that means he's been a
Speaker 1: finalist for finalist or a semifinalist semifinalists. Yeah before okay,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Smith there, I was just looking for a former
Speaker 1: cowboy there you Jimmy Smith, former cowboy boy you talk
Speaker 1: about brief Yeah, briefly cowboy. Don't ask jim long enough
Speaker 1: to heaven appened Deck to me here? Yeah, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't funny. No, that's right because he got infected. Ye,
Speaker 1: all right, tight ends. Witten's not eligible yet offensive lineman
Speaker 1: and my cousin's on some walls may make it wa
Speaker 1: Keith Miller brother from another mother. Yeah, there's some names
Speaker 1: on here. I saw. It's like seriously all right? Uh no,
Speaker 1: they won't pick DeMarcus Ware. You mentioned DeMarcus Ware and
Speaker 1: Leroy Glover. It's on the list as well. They got
Speaker 1: where as a linebacker too. Yeah. The names are all recognizable,
Speaker 1: but are they Hall of Fame worthy? That's Zach Thomas,
Speaker 1: another former cowboy, and Corney has been it is in
Speaker 1: regards said deserving something. Help me help me with Alan
Speaker 1: rossom m hmm. Never heard of them, Sam Mills, Man
Speaker 1: Bottom Sanders, Adrian Wilson. Did he just make one? Sanders
Speaker 1: is a great player, Mickey is okay, I don't remember
Speaker 1: Adrian Wilson. He made one play in the Is that
Speaker 1: the guy that made the play in the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: And Alan Rossom, by the way, is from Dallas Skyline High.
Speaker 1: Now that's why I remember the man. I'm going first
Speaker 1: of all Woody, That's all I see down here is
Speaker 1: with him on dB. I just all I see is
Speaker 1: with him. So album got Albin Lewis from Grambling. Oh
Speaker 1: there's another former Cowboy up there, Leroy Glover yea mentioned Yeah, sorry, yep.
Speaker 1: So there you go. There's your update on the hundred
Speaker 1: and some odd modern era candidates for the Pro Football
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. I'll drop out real fast. And the voting, uh,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they keep this list all the
Speaker 1: way to know they get to November, they get twenty
Speaker 1: five or so, the semi five in November. Okay, um,
Speaker 1: I just talked with Mike McCarthy. We just take the
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy show, all right, you should he shaved everything,
Speaker 1: cut his hair. Well, we were supposed to do it yesterday, okay,
Speaker 1: but it's we normally do it Tuesdays at five o'clock, okay,
Speaker 1: and just to pull back the curtain, but it's a
Speaker 1: Monday night week. Yeah. So schedules are messed up this week.
Speaker 1: So these people are creatures habit And so the day
Speaker 1: is Tuesday. You let's let learn any thing you can
Speaker 1: tell us that won't come out until Saturday. That that's
Speaker 1: the problem with taping these shows Tuesday or Wednesday is
Speaker 1: and that and the show doesn't air until Saturday. All
Speaker 1: the injury news and stuff, you don't there's no even
Speaker 1: reason to ask him about it right outside of off
Speaker 1: the air. So, um, so I didn't tell you anything
Speaker 1: that I can reveal. He looks so sneaky, didn't you
Speaker 1: got this look at will boy? I bet you was
Speaker 1: a sneaky little joke. Come on, Michael Parsons a defensive
Speaker 1: end or a linebacker? Yes, that's the answer. Yes, And
Speaker 1: that's okay, And that's we've known that they want to
Speaker 1: keep him at linebacker, yes, long term and use him
Speaker 1: in a variety of ways. It's a hypers guy. Now,
Speaker 1: the question is this week, with Dorrin's Armstrong's uncertain status,
Speaker 1: but you're getting Randy Gregory back, how do you use
Speaker 1: Parsons right back where he was? Yeah? And I think
Speaker 1: that's the k that ankle I hear on Armstrong is
Speaker 1: a high Yeah, so so he's probably not okay, So
Speaker 1: we can quote he's highly questioned. We can quote Mickey
Speaker 1: on that, not the head coach. Yes, right. And by
Speaker 1: the way, since we mentioned Michael Parsons, if anybody has
Speaker 1: the time, once it's posted on Dallas Cowboys dot com,
Speaker 1: catch his interview today. He was really good talking with
Speaker 1: the media at large. Yes, he was. You know what
Speaker 1: I've said when I talked to him at training camp,
Speaker 1: I told him after we got done with the interview,
Speaker 1: You're going to be the best interview on this team.
Speaker 1: And the reason is because he doesn't give you the
Speaker 1: stock answer. He's he's opinionated, yes, and as he gets
Speaker 1: and he truly thinks before he answers. He's just going
Speaker 1: to give you any type of answer that's right. And
Speaker 1: he's real when he talks to you. So one of
Speaker 1: the things I recall him saying was he goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: he goes, you know, I'll play everywhere anywhere. You know,
Speaker 1: I am play defensive end, I'll play linebacker, whatever they want.
Speaker 1: And he goes in, the other team won't know what
Speaker 1: I'm doing. So that it was pretty good, all right.
Speaker 1: I know that to be true because we saw it
Speaker 1: this past weekend, and he wants to do both, and
Speaker 1: he doesn't think he needs to be regulated, that he
Speaker 1: could do it all. I'm like the bull. The bull
Speaker 1: just keeps running. Something to that I paraphrased. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you gotta love it. He means it. It isn't that
Speaker 1: just some mode goes back to the hard knocks thing
Speaker 1: about you know, the lions always hungry. He learned that
Speaker 1: the Penn State's Minney lion. Yeah, yeah, um so anyway,
Speaker 1: and I hear the Watkins Carlos Watkins ankle might be troublesome.
Speaker 1: Also troublesome. Also, yes, okay, but they should get Randy
Speaker 1: Gregory was supposed to be I saw on the practice field.
Speaker 1: So he's back in the building today, so he's ready
Speaker 1: to go. Okay, he's getting some extra work in. They did,
Speaker 1: like a little walkthrough or whatever. That's right. So and
Speaker 1: then stay tuned because at two forty five, something will
Speaker 1: break right as soon as we get done it too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you anything happened yesterday? I mean
Speaker 1: I was surprised to see you here. Maybe you got
Speaker 1: hurt again, jeez. So we'll check in at three, although
Speaker 1: they don't I don't believe they have to give out
Speaker 1: an injury report today because it's technically with the Monday games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like a Tuesday, yep. But anyway, I think we
Speaker 1: know that. And then they made a couple additions to
Speaker 1: the practice squad. Cornerback Hilton Hill, Texas Hilton Hill, Holton Hill,
Speaker 1: he was with the Vikings right three years. And then
Speaker 1: Ratide the wide receiver Yep, Damian rat Let to the
Speaker 1: practice squad. He had been with Cleveland, played thirty one
Speaker 1: games with the Browns and the Texans. So those guys
Speaker 1: were added to the practice squad. They had well, actually
Speaker 1: they had two spots because they release Hiroa Lula where
Speaker 1: to go? How about that? Yeah? What you know? Once
Speaker 1: once he figures out how to pronounce the name, they
Speaker 1: release him. Yeah. Yeahs between this and they had an
Speaker 1: open spot. So they they had an open spot, and
Speaker 1: then they created one with the kicker and brought in
Speaker 1: those two guys on the practice squad. Okay, and then
Speaker 1: I feel good about Greg the lea. So after this game,
Speaker 1: the guys that were put on injured reserve um after
Speaker 1: they were on the roster for one day would be
Speaker 1: eligible to return if they're healthy enough and you know,
Speaker 1: the way we've seen um Ball, Josh Ball, the tackle
Speaker 1: running out there, he might be ready to get back
Speaker 1: um although, and I mean they might need to give
Speaker 1: him a chance because I'm not sure, you know, with
Speaker 1: tied n Seki, it seems like it's always been something
Speaker 1: right at least I saw him out there. He was
Speaker 1: and he was out there, Yeah, so that was that
Speaker 1: was a good sign after his heat exhaustion. But he
Speaker 1: would be ready to come back. Kelvin Joseph, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen him do that much, so I don't know that's
Speaker 1: the growing exactly where he is. Was his a groin
Speaker 1: or knee, I don't think. For some reason, I'm thinking
Speaker 1: amount Donovan Wilson was the groin. Yes, that's true, and
Speaker 1: he was rehabbing today, So we'll see. But the guys
Speaker 1: that were already on ir some of them, that's such
Speaker 1: a that's such a bother. The guy they need back
Speaker 1: is Neville Gallimore, and I'm not sure, you know, it
Speaker 1: may be four or five weeks for him with a
Speaker 1: dislocated as we were thinking. I think we were thinking
Speaker 1: after the bye, after the bye. Yeah, yeah, regardless of
Speaker 1: what they said in the preseason, it would looked like, okay,
Speaker 1: from an injury like that, after the bye would be
Speaker 1: the earliest, he would think. So it's not where they
Speaker 1: have to do a rod or anything. Put it in there.
Speaker 1: No they I don't think they did surgery. Yeah, okay, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: because at the time that he was hurt, we were thought, oh, well,
Speaker 1: it's a season ender. And then he came back the
Speaker 1: next day and oh the good news is he can
Speaker 1: be back this year and he didn't have to do surgery. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: and by the way, we talk a lot about Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons and um and the way his impact on the game.
Speaker 1: How about that third round pick osa Odigazooa in that game, Yes,
Speaker 1: because he created let me remember, he created the sack
Speaker 1: that got I think it was his pressure that pushed
Speaker 1: him to the side and Vanderesh was right there, which
Speaker 1: I figured out. It took them eighty eight minutes to
Speaker 1: get the first sack of the season because it happened
Speaker 1: at the two minute mark of the first half. They
Speaker 1: can get any of the first game, so it took
Speaker 1: a while, but they got six times six times more takeaways,
Speaker 1: that's right. Actually they got two sacks tas Okay, and
Speaker 1: you got the six time. Ovis right, got six takeaways, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, the league it does, it does number one. Boy,
Speaker 1: that's shades of nineteen. I've been I've been calling for
Speaker 1: it for how long? How about this the culture? I
Speaker 1: got you, I got you your early mix shot. Okay,
Speaker 1: Chris has gotta be on it. Oh, there it is.
Speaker 1: They have now forced takeaways in their last nine games,
Speaker 1: seven from last year and then the first two this year.
Speaker 1: Last year and in the last right they are a
Speaker 1: plus fourteen. How about that after they struggled the whole
Speaker 1: How long did it take before they registered one last year?
Speaker 1: All I know is they didn't get the sixth takeaway
Speaker 1: last year until the eighth game. Okay, that's what it was.
Speaker 1: And then halfway through the season and they got the
Speaker 1: fourth interception in the eleventh game. And now they've already
Speaker 1: got um four. So bring back last year's DC. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Bring bring back the quarterbacks they were playing again last year.
Speaker 1: Bring back the COVID casualties. The other team even scored
Speaker 1: because remember they played Cincinnati, Burrow was out for the year.
Speaker 1: I mean, you run down the list. In fact, Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts was one of those that they got their facing
Speaker 1: this week. So last year or in those last seven games,
Speaker 1: they had sixteen takeaways and then he had six. Now
Speaker 1: that's twenty two and nine games. My son and I
Speaker 1: missed him out with a little blog thing that he has,
Speaker 1: and he pointed that out to me. I had forgotten
Speaker 1: it was so bad last year. I've forgotten how well
Speaker 1: defensively we kind of picked it up before they kind
Speaker 1: of rebounded in those last few games. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it had to do with who they were playing.
Speaker 1: One of the one of the most misleading stats from
Speaker 1: last year's team was the fact that they finished defensively
Speaker 1: finished seventh in the league in takeaways last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: seventh in the league. They had twenty six takeaways last year,
Speaker 1: and it was all at the end of the season.
Speaker 1: I'll make that twenty three takeaways. Twenty three takeaways, thirteen
Speaker 1: by fumble and ten interceptions. They're defense, did I? But
Speaker 1: I say it's misleading because the horse was out of
Speaker 1: the barn by the time. Yeah, you mean hors You
Speaker 1: mean the horses were running right throughout defensive line, that's right. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was definitely out of the barn. They if I
Speaker 1: remember correctly, he's twenty three, so they were twenty They
Speaker 1: were the twenty third ranked defense in yards given up
Speaker 1: and thirty thirty first against the run, and only the
Speaker 1: Falcons were worse. I looked it up. I think it
Speaker 1: was one of the teams who played this preseason, either
Speaker 1: Jacksonville or Houston. Yeah, that sounds like Jacksonville. Ye. If
Speaker 1: I was going to pick, it'd be Jacksonville. And now
Speaker 1: they're thirty first after two weeks against the pass. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: they who they faced, Brady Good justin Herbert and and
Speaker 1: that's factored. It's only factored on yards, so setting both
Speaker 1: of them passed for like three thirty something. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: even though the last quarterback they faced passed for three
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty eight yards or whatever it was, and
Speaker 1: one of them was huge in the red zone, they've
Speaker 1: given up seven hundred crazy kind of third down play
Speaker 1: that would have if they settled for the field goal there.
Speaker 1: They take a seventeen fourteen lead in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: They've given up seven hundred and seventeen yards passing and
Speaker 1: two games. The reason I was still surprised is because
Speaker 1: so many quarterbacks throwing for over three hundred yards. I'm
Speaker 1: really surprised that it's still a number that's that's you know,
Speaker 1: so high as far as ranking, I assume that I've
Speaker 1: seen some horrible pass defense, way worse than I was
Speaker 1: in the end, just in his first two let me
Speaker 1: tell you something. Those passing yards the defense is giving up,
Speaker 1: they're going down this week, they're going down his way
Speaker 1: against jal and the Eagles. Let's hope the rushing yards
Speaker 1: don't go up. Well right now, I don't want to
Speaker 1: jinx it, but the Philly is just really not a
Speaker 1: team that looks confident at all, especially after last week.
Speaker 1: They couldn't run the or pass they look confident they
Speaker 1: played Atlanta. Yeah, but but I mean if you look
Speaker 1: at last week's game, except for the like ninety one yarder,
Speaker 1: you know that was a lot of inconsistencies, especially against
Speaker 1: the trying to run the ball. They didn't run the
Speaker 1: ball well at all. It put it put Jalen and
Speaker 1: his offense in a bad position. Jalen had three hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty four yards passing against Atlanta in a thirty
Speaker 1: two to six win, and he is averaging seventy two
Speaker 1: yards rushing a game. To your point, he's the twelfth
Speaker 1: leading rusher in the NFL. Right now. I looked it
Speaker 1: up and he leads the Eagles with I think it's
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty four yards rushing. All right, let's
Speaker 1: dive into more of that. When Mick shots continues. Oh ready,
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Speaker 1: that defensive line. Fletcher Cox, He's how old is Fletcher Cox? Ancient? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: does get fired up, you know, it's it's so hard
Speaker 1: to stop it from going downhill type of thing. You
Speaker 1: know who's playing well for them on their defensive line,
Speaker 1: it's the guy next to Fletcher Cox, Javon Hargrave. He
Speaker 1: is he had two sacks against Atlanta, he had two
Speaker 1: tackles for loss against San Francisco. And that guy is
Speaker 1: what number ninety seven? He's huge, yeah, and I mean
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Speaker 1: Cox's reputation in this lake, you thought, oh, there's Fletcher
Speaker 1: Cox doing you know, or you or you switched their numbers.
Speaker 1: He could be ninety one and not ninety seven. He's
Speaker 1: only thirty. Fletcher Cox is thirty that he's in his
Speaker 1: tenth season. When you're playing defensive line, thirty years old,
Speaker 1: six time Pro bowler Fletcher Cox. So um so the
Speaker 1: Cox's play has leveled off here because once he reached
Speaker 1: the age of thirty, Hardgrave has taken up the slack
Speaker 1: for him and he's he's a he's are we talking Connor?
Speaker 1: Are we talking zach Um Well they're in a four three,
Speaker 1: so I don't know the thing with Hargrave two he
Speaker 1: was with Pittsburgh three four four, so he was out
Speaker 1: of That's what I remember. Yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 1: they designated on their depth chart right and left or nose.
Speaker 1: And I think they just got clisted his defensive tackles.
Speaker 1: Let's see here. Uh yeah, just defensive tackles Hargrave and clocks.
Speaker 1: Because when you look at how we played, obviously the
Speaker 1: offensive line overall played extremely well. You have a few mistakes,
Speaker 1: but you know that's a given. I still see Connor
Speaker 1: Williams seems to be having some problems with power rushes.
Speaker 1: Well he's that's kind of been his problem, yeah all along. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know they would they only sack Dac one time. No, No,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. That and that one sack.
Speaker 1: Uh he was driven back, Yeah right, they got him
Speaker 1: call Kyler Facral got him coming around the edge around
Speaker 1: Tying late in the game. Yeah, that's one. That one
Speaker 1: and then the other one which I talked with before,
Speaker 1: that was a whiff. Yeah. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: heck happened on that play, but tywone just he got
Speaker 1: by Tylwane so fast. Yeah, I know where even throw
Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, I think he was shocked. So going
Speaker 1: back to Hurts, they don't get the ball much down
Speaker 1: the field. If you look at his his average per
Speaker 1: attempt is seven point eight yards, but he's got a
Speaker 1: ninety Without the ninety one yard completion, he's averaging the
Speaker 1: other attempts, he's averaging six point three, so he's checking
Speaker 1: down a line. Even with DeVante Smith, he's only averaging
Speaker 1: like eight yards a catch. I believe when you look
Speaker 1: at the Eagles, everything is about defense. Yes, you know,
Speaker 1: you have to play off the defense, So they're not
Speaker 1: going to try and do anything too extravagant. The ninety
Speaker 1: one yarder last week, that was an extreme aberration because
Speaker 1: I've never seen I don't think they've completed anything over
Speaker 1: fifty yards in quite some time as Eagles passing game goes,
Speaker 1: and that was an exception and they still didn't score.
Speaker 1: So I take it back. DeVante Smith's averaging ten point
Speaker 1: nine a catch, but that's not really you know, out
Speaker 1: of the realm, right, So the key thing for their
Speaker 1: whole deal so far, they've only given up two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: You know, they win thirty two to six, and then
Speaker 1: they lose seventeen dollars once again first week. Yeah, against it.
Speaker 1: That's a whole nother thing. You know. I have to
Speaker 1: give each team respect because the players still played and
Speaker 1: they still make their money, and some of them are
Speaker 1: still extremely good. But as a team, I wouldn't boast
Speaker 1: too much about doing well against the Falcons. So when
Speaker 1: you look at those you should do. Yes, Yes, when
Speaker 1: you look at those stats, I'm looking at what did
Speaker 1: they do against the team that's a little bit more capable,
Speaker 1: And that's when you look at the forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: and defensively the nine is just they had the ninety
Speaker 1: one yard and still didn't score a touchdown. After the
Speaker 1: nineties they did not score a touchdown. The scores fourteen
Speaker 1: to three, so they end up kicking a field goal.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if they kicked a field goal
Speaker 1: on that one. I just know that that was the
Speaker 1: only shining I'm telling you, it was the only shining
Speaker 1: glory that they had for that game. I was watching
Speaker 1: the game because I was doing my scouting report looking
Speaker 1: forward to playing the Eagles, and it just wasn't much
Speaker 1: to report. So you better watch out for quez Watkins.
Speaker 1: He can get behind you. You better watch out for
Speaker 1: being too complacent. Yes, because when they look at that film,
Speaker 1: they're going to you know, you could potentially let your
Speaker 1: guard down. Well, I think the other offensively when you
Speaker 1: see offensively. The other thing that the cowboys have to
Speaker 1: watch out for, uh is hurts running the ball. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Everything's a scramble or I'm sure there's some
Speaker 1: design runs like zone read. Yeah, seventeen forty four, so
Speaker 1: he's averaging eight and a half yards of carry. And
Speaker 1: now my question to you guys, is is he the
Speaker 1: type of guy you got a spy? Yes, keep somebody
Speaker 1: and who because your choice I don't know who is
Speaker 1: that guy? Eleven sounds good? They just throw a number
Speaker 1: out there. It's like, let's get a guy who runs
Speaker 1: a four three? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: I wouldn't number twenty seven he could be. He could
Speaker 1: be a good spy. You got Kaz Deep. You have
Speaker 1: him there, who was very instinctive on the place that
Speaker 1: he makes. That would be a nice alternative and keeping
Speaker 1: Parsons free on the outside to don't worry by spying.
Speaker 1: You just go get him. We have twenty seven curse
Speaker 1: waiting on him. If things go on, that would be
Speaker 1: a nice little way. So without Armstrong, but Gregory back.
Speaker 1: Assuming Armstrong is out for a couple of weeks, do
Speaker 1: you want him on the line of scrimmage or do
Speaker 1: you want him at linebacker? I want him on the
Speaker 1: last scrimmage only because Armstrong's gone. He's only because if
Speaker 1: Armstrong's out, all right, what about Chauncey Gholston if he's
Speaker 1: ready to go. If he's ready, was inactive last week, right,
Speaker 1: my world would be unproven. See here, here's the deal
Speaker 1: with part persons. If they're gonna just use him as
Speaker 1: a designated pass rusher and he only gets thirty seven snaps,
Speaker 1: I'd rather him have fifty snaps at linebacker. I would
Speaker 1: rather have fifty snaps as a pass rusher now, because
Speaker 1: then they'll run right at him. You keep saying that
Speaker 1: I care, I'm gonna I don't care. Wow, No, then
Speaker 1: they're gonna run that. I don't want his hand on
Speaker 1: the ground. I want him standing up somewhere now. He said,
Speaker 1: just put me whereever. I'll do both. He wanted to
Speaker 1: do both. He wanted to play. He's he's saying whatever
Speaker 1: was best for the team. And that's what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to figure out, what's best for the team. Yeah, where
Speaker 1: where do they need his help? Didn't they needed at
Speaker 1: linebacker to shadow Hurts, they needed at defensive end to
Speaker 1: try to create some pressure because he did have four pressures,
Speaker 1: he had one sack. He only had two tackles. So
Speaker 1: that's somewhat concerning. Before they've got to be able to
Speaker 1: set the edge before they started coming out with you know,
Speaker 1: the dime packages on first down. When I was in
Speaker 1: with Belichick in New York, you know, first down obviously
Speaker 1: run situation, I'm at corner, and then of course when
Speaker 1: it's second and long, which it usually was, but they
Speaker 1: will tee out there second and long or whatever, then
Speaker 1: I would move back to safety. So can the true safe,
Speaker 1: true safety not in the nickel or anything. I mean, no, no,
Speaker 1: no slot, no, no move in safety and sometimes in
Speaker 1: the slot of course. Yeah, that's that was a straight
Speaker 1: So yeah, we would do that, but it would have
Speaker 1: to be a true passing down. We had to look
Speaker 1: at it defensively as a true passing down. So that
Speaker 1: could be the same thing with Parston's having true run situation.
Speaker 1: Having as a linebacker were second and long, third and long.
Speaker 1: Put them at the at the defensive end, and let
Speaker 1: them go. Let the bull run, Let the bull run.
Speaker 1: All right, let me take you talked about the ninety
Speaker 1: one yard pass last week for the Eagles. I found
Speaker 1: what happened after that, and you're right, they did not score.
Speaker 1: They did not kick a field goal either. Here's what happened.
Speaker 1: They went ninety one yards on the first play of
Speaker 1: that possession to the San Francisco six yard line from
Speaker 1: their own three to the San Francisco six, and then
Speaker 1: the next play they got a false start. So now
Speaker 1: they're first and goal at the eleven. Hurts incomplete to
Speaker 1: a running back, and then hurts incomplete pass interference on
Speaker 1: Josh Norman. So now they get a new set of
Speaker 1: downs out of the one yard line. Okay, at the
Speaker 1: one yard line, Hurts incomplete for intended for zach Ertz.
Speaker 1: Second and goal at the one, Sanders loses three yards. Now,
Speaker 1: third and goal at the four, Hurts right in for
Speaker 1: one yard, fourth and goal at and then it was
Speaker 1: the Greg Ward incomplete intended for Hurts. Yeah, it looked
Speaker 1: cute though from the beginning, that's all. It was sort
Speaker 1: of when you know you're not trusting your quarterback. Well
Speaker 1: that's why you know you have no running game either. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's when you know you have no running game, because
Speaker 1: otherwise one yard line come on then, so you don't.
Speaker 1: Actually we're first in goal at the three and couldn't
Speaker 1: do anything, and then they get a pass interference and
Speaker 1: so they get a new set of downs at the
Speaker 1: one at the point four point from the ball. So
Speaker 1: how many they have seven plays? So they had seven
Speaker 1: plays on the goal line and could not score. So
Speaker 1: there you go. And see that's the thing you got
Speaker 1: where about what hurts? And I know that he's not
Speaker 1: where he should be. But if you have a defense
Speaker 1: that is controlling things and confounding your offense for some
Speaker 1: strange reason, he is that guy that can manage it.
Speaker 1: He can manage your offense. And I don't want him
Speaker 1: to be comfortable in that manner. I want him to
Speaker 1: have to I want him to have to force things
Speaker 1: the way San Francisco forced them to do things and
Speaker 1: they couldn't make it happen. But as opposed Atlanta, and
Speaker 1: I hope they're going to be coming out there playing
Speaker 1: like Atlanta defensively to where you know, he was able
Speaker 1: to do everything you wanted. Yeah, because defensively they weren't
Speaker 1: threatened at all. They just couldn't do anything. Atlanta couldn't
Speaker 1: do anything. Say it would be behooved the Cowboys to
Speaker 1: get into a two score lead. Yes, and force him
Speaker 1: to play quarterbacks, will force him to play a true quarterback,
Speaker 1: right and confusing and make him have to process because
Speaker 1: that wasn't one of his strengths in college at Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: It's kind of the same deal as what the Patriots
Speaker 1: did with the rookie quarterback for the Jets this past week,
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. And if you look at what Belichick traditionally
Speaker 1: has done that Patriot defense, any rookie quarterback against the
Speaker 1: Patriots defense. But is it seeing ghosts? Yeah? You know, yes,
Speaker 1: I remember that. Ye. All right, more mixed shots in
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Speaker 1: paying attention? He was? Bicky's over there with the discert
Speaker 1: get the rule around. Don't start all right? So what
Speaker 1: are we looking for as the Cowboys get back to
Speaker 1: work and officially start Eagles Week tomorrow on Thursday? What
Speaker 1: are the what are the storylines this week that you're
Speaker 1: looking for? Um? I think first and foremost, how they
Speaker 1: um line up defensively with you know, seemingly week to
Speaker 1: week they're having to make changes, um, you know, testing
Speaker 1: the depth on this team for guys to have to
Speaker 1: step in, So, you know, do they get Donovan Wilson back?
Speaker 1: Do they? Uh you know, are the other guys ready?
Speaker 1: You mentioned Gholston, Is he ready to go? Are they
Speaker 1: going to lose Armstrong and Watkins in this game? And
Speaker 1: then uh, you know you are already using odiggy zoo.
Speaker 1: Is Bohanna ready to step in or to have to
Speaker 1: move urban to the defensive tackle spot? So there's a
Speaker 1: little bit of juggling that that has to go on
Speaker 1: on the you got depth, I think yeah, I think
Speaker 1: so and and and the versatility of Parsons that can
Speaker 1: kind of plug kind of Heck, if you had to
Speaker 1: play safety, well I don't want him in space. Who else?
Speaker 1: Who else would go to play? Exciting? Who else? Yeah? Really?
Speaker 1: Who else is UH as diverse, maybe close to being
Speaker 1: as diverse as Parsons on this team on the front
Speaker 1: seventh the front seven, Well, Kean O'Neil somewhat, although he hasn't,
Speaker 1: but he's from the back end to the yeah, but
Speaker 1: not to the front. And you talked about Curse being flexible, Yeah,
Speaker 1: from the back end right to go because he because
Speaker 1: they moved him up into like a slot spot because
Speaker 1: at one point they played three UH safeties, they played
Speaker 1: three defensive linemen, two linebackers. Um, so they kind of
Speaker 1: mixed it up. And as we saw as a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, um, I heard Jerry Jones say, you know,
Speaker 1: somebody said, oh, you know, what did you think about
Speaker 1: Zack Martin? You know whatever, Focus rated him the top
Speaker 1: rated player in the league. I'm not going to give
Speaker 1: him any whatever because they grades, they graded him the
Speaker 1: highest of anybody. And somebody asked Jerry about it, and
Speaker 1: Jerry said, well, I'll tell you who we graded the
Speaker 1: highest was jay Ron Curse that that he was number
Speaker 1: one graded defensive player on the team in that game.
Speaker 1: And you know, we talked about him yesterday with all
Speaker 1: the different things he did, uh, stepped in as a starter,
Speaker 1: stepped in in the slot to kind of take on
Speaker 1: the tight end, and we talked about the unsung performance
Speaker 1: against Tampa. Yeah and still but not so one song
Speaker 1: in this game because they finally called his name and
Speaker 1: gave him some love. Right the commentary Womo was saying,
Speaker 1: talked about how good as instincts were. You just didn't
Speaker 1: even hear that doing the Tampa game at all. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you didn't hear much of it. When they first signed him.
Speaker 1: It was like an oh, well, special teams guy that
Speaker 1: can play a little safety. He looks good in his uniform.
Speaker 1: He really does six four or good to like us
Speaker 1: out there. Yes, and then I think the other thing,
Speaker 1: Bill is the consistency. Can Terrence Steele do this again? Players?
Speaker 1: In a matter of fact, he got to go out
Speaker 1: there and be one of the interviewed players today and see,
Speaker 1: that's what I was That's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: I think I would number one challenges. How do we
Speaker 1: hand the success? Yeah, yeah, we've we've done a good
Speaker 1: job two games. And instead of falling back on oh
Speaker 1: we almost beat Tampa and then we did win this game,
Speaker 1: Let's just look at the loss as something unusual. Let's
Speaker 1: look at what we did against the Chargers as the
Speaker 1: norm and take that on, I mean as far as
Speaker 1: we can take. And don't get lulled into this comfort that,
Speaker 1: oh Steele played well and we're going to turn him
Speaker 1: loose by himself. I don't I don't know that he's
Speaker 1: ready for that. On sixty snaps, you know, keep that
Speaker 1: tight end over there in times, keep chipping over there,
Speaker 1: give him some help and uh, and then see how
Speaker 1: he does, see how it is going in a couple
Speaker 1: one on one pass rush type takes. But you know,
Speaker 1: if he can be consistent over there, you know, and
Speaker 1: and it keeps building to think that you can maybe
Speaker 1: solve that swing tackle spot with an undrafted guy. Uh
Speaker 1: that comes on and as we know at times, guys,
Speaker 1: you know, offensive linemen take time to develop. I mean
Speaker 1: think about you know, heck, Nate Newton, h Mark two
Speaker 1: and a right two guys came into the league undrafted
Speaker 1: and ended up dominating right, and it ended up in
Speaker 1: the in the Pro Bowl. So, um, I think if
Speaker 1: I remember correctly, Gogan was like a seventh round PA.
Speaker 1: He was too much. The only guy I know what
Speaker 1: started the fight at the Pro Bowl. During the Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl game, I think Randy White might have pulled the
Speaker 1: only game. Yeah yeah, right, yeah, exactly. Um, he started
Speaker 1: a fight in a pre season games. It's like, Randy,
Speaker 1: what are you doing doing? It was hot, I don't
Speaker 1: want to be out there an he was mad at
Speaker 1: early stout there. He took that helmet and banged Borts
Speaker 1: over the head in a preseason So so here's what
Speaker 1: I'm looking at. Okay, So if I'm if I'm the
Speaker 1: Eagles and I'm thinking, Okay, what's the best I can
Speaker 1: do with the Cowboys offensively? I'm not looking as far
Speaker 1: as the Cowboys offense, I'm not looking at controlling them.
Speaker 1: I'm going to have an issue with them. This is
Speaker 1: coming from the Eagle standpoint. What can I do? The
Speaker 1: offset that it has to be the running game. It
Speaker 1: has to be their running game, the Eagles running game.
Speaker 1: So I'm looking for him to come out and they're
Speaker 1: gonna try to smash mouth us. That's the only chance, right,
Speaker 1: They're gonna try to smash mouths and see, Okay, we
Speaker 1: saw you give up some yards. We've seen you give
Speaker 1: up yards. You've statistically you're doing well, but we've seen
Speaker 1: some weaknesses and breakdowns in tackling and especially in key
Speaker 1: situations and moving the chains. So to me, smashmouth football
Speaker 1: is the best chance they well, if you think about it.
Speaker 1: So you know, we get caught up in all the
Speaker 1: passing and things. Chargers average five yards of carry. They
Speaker 1: did what the Cowboys give up, and I was extremely
Speaker 1: frustrated watching them. Yeah, what they give up last year
Speaker 1: five yards of carry defensively when they gave up all
Speaker 1: those yards against the run. There were times they came
Speaker 1: out I don't know if you saw it. They slipped
Speaker 1: in and unbalanced. They slipped in and unbalanced, and they
Speaker 1: ran the ball. We all it was all clogged up
Speaker 1: in the middle. Digs comes on the outside. All he
Speaker 1: had to do was make the tackle. He could have
Speaker 1: made the tackle for a loss. No one blocked him anything.
Speaker 1: The running back just ran right inside of him and
Speaker 1: it wasn't I just remember that play because it was unbalanced.
Speaker 1: It was so unusually. They only did that one time
Speaker 1: in the game. But when you look at all the
Speaker 1: mistakes you made, lots of mistackles, they weren't even good.
Speaker 1: They were good running backs to where you missed those
Speaker 1: kind of tackles. I mean, we had them dead to
Speaker 1: rights at times, and somehow they ended up still averaging
Speaker 1: five yards to carry and no big runs, just one.
Speaker 1: You were consistent. Heckler had one twenty yard runs and
Speaker 1: that was the only double digit runs. Otherwise they would
Speaker 1: I mean he might have had another one all the
Speaker 1: but they were dicing us. They were dicing and key situation.
Speaker 1: You got second and twelve, you're gonna give up ten
Speaker 1: yards on the run. Now the third and short. See
Speaker 1: it's not the third and two of the bathers you,
Speaker 1: it's the second and long the bathers. You if we
Speaker 1: can control that, I just remember that's what we used
Speaker 1: to do in Dallas, and with the Giants, we controlled
Speaker 1: once we got them in a negative situation, we kept
Speaker 1: them in a negative situation. We didn't let them out
Speaker 1: of the box. And we did that a lot in
Speaker 1: the ball game. Second and twelve, second and thirty, first
Speaker 1: and fifteen, and they end the running the ball and
Speaker 1: putting themselves in great position for third downs. You know,
Speaker 1: there was a couple of times out there they ended
Speaker 1: up going with a three man line and played more linebackers.
Speaker 1: And if you think about it, the strength of this
Speaker 1: defense right now is the depth at linebacker. So maybe
Speaker 1: you try to get more linebackers on the field. I
Speaker 1: love it, love it, love it, which which ends up
Speaker 1: with Parsons, you know, maybe standing up as an outside
Speaker 1: outside linebacker. Right, So, how do you like? How do
Speaker 1: you like a base three four of whoever you want
Speaker 1: to put down? It's down lineman. You can't have Bohannah
Speaker 1: Urban well Watkins if he was Watkins, if he was healthy,
Speaker 1: really need him diggi zoa right, so right now, since Watkins,
Speaker 1: we will call him out Bohannah odiggazooa and Urban right okay.
Speaker 1: And then you've got Randy Gregory and Michael Parsons on
Speaker 1: the edges and inside a Vanderesh and Jalen or Vanderesh
Speaker 1: and Keyan ou'neil. So have you come out, you Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts and you come out and you see that, do
Speaker 1: you audible to like throw the ball? Yeah? Um, keep
Speaker 1: it going to keep some mask mouth, keep this math mouth.
Speaker 1: Before you're bringing five, Cowboys are bringing five regardless. They
Speaker 1: just got to figure out which five are coming on
Speaker 1: the three four. Yeah, yeah, exactly, and then try to run.
Speaker 1: Because see if if the other thing you can do
Speaker 1: on that is you could play. Vanderesh and Jalen can
Speaker 1: both play outside linebacker. Yeah, Vanderesh camp Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: he was a Pro Bowl week side line but everybody
Speaker 1: forgets that about him because of his injuries. Right, he
Speaker 1: was the first rookie linebacker to go to the Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl in Cowboy history. I mean, I can see I'm
Speaker 1: talking in a three four Vanderesh can play, he could play.
Speaker 1: He could play outside linebacker in a three four where
Speaker 1: you could play Parsons inside even alongside Keyan O'Neil in
Speaker 1: a big nickel type you know situation. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they got things to work. There's multiple things the
Speaker 1: not we on right, right, and and then you got
Speaker 1: curse in the equation too, and if Parsons is in
Speaker 1: the middle there, then he keeping all right. So let's tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the player acquisition and what dan Quinn's
Speaker 1: doing in this defense where the Cowboys are better suited
Speaker 1: to face these type offenses, these college spread offenses that
Speaker 1: are now prevalent in the NFL. And I'm talking the
Speaker 1: jay Ron Curses and Kean O'Neil's safety types who are
Speaker 1: now playing linebacker. That's becoming the rage now in this league.
Speaker 1: And let me give you for our last word goes
Speaker 1: to Jerry Jones, who I heard say of Michael Parsons,
Speaker 1: we thought he was the best defensive player in the draft,
Speaker 1: and that's why we didn't cut our throats when we
Speaker 1: didn't get a corner. And he has that because he
Speaker 1: has so much flexibility for what he can do on defense. Okay,
Speaker 1: and he's proving it out. Yes, all right, best player
Speaker 1: defensive player in the draft. I'm just a defensive player.
Speaker 1: I don't play in a position that's right, that's right
Speaker 1: on the field, football player that's right. All right. That
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