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Speaker 1: Welcome to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast

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Speaker 1: day M paranormal podcast network. Now get ready for another

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Speaker 1: episode of Shades of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. The

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Speaker 1: Heart Media, I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast a out,

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Speaker 1: depending on the subject matter and your needs. Hi. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sandra Champlain. For almost twenty five years, I've been on

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Speaker 1: a journey to prove the existence of life after death.

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Speaker 1: On each episode will discuss the reasons we now know

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Speaker 1: that our loved ones have survived physical death and so

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Speaker 1: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. Yesterday we

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Speaker 1: did our weekly Sunday gathering and if you haven't heard

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Speaker 1: me to speak about that before. It's a nondenominational service

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Speaker 1: that we do online on Zoom my friends and I

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Speaker 1: and we celebrate life and the afterlife, complete with a

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Speaker 1: medium demonstration at the end, completely free. It's our way

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Speaker 1: of giving back being inspired each week we have a

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Speaker 1: different theme, and yesterday's theme was the Magic of Disney. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you pay attention to Disney things, of course there's

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Speaker 1: the Haunted Mansion, but Disney also has movies that deal

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Speaker 1: with the afterlife or the before life, like Coco and Soul.

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Speaker 1: Disney touches on several of the human values, emotions, how

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Speaker 1: to live life. And we thought it would be a

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Speaker 1: great opportunity to share what we love Disney in our

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Speaker 1: Sunday gathering. And I was the one who did the address,

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Speaker 1: and it dawned on me that here we are souls

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Speaker 1: having a human experience. And I compared life to being

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Speaker 1: like we're going to Disney World or Disneyland. We have

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Speaker 1: this great opportunity being here on planet Earth, and I

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Speaker 1: have this vision in my mind that we were all

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Speaker 1: souls and we get this opportunity to come here and

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Speaker 1: really enjoy and experience so many things that we can't

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Speaker 1: do at home. Home being the before life and where

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Speaker 1: it may be, there are things that we don't get

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Speaker 1: say it's good all of the time, Well, we know

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Speaker 1: when things are good all of the time, they can

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Speaker 1: become boring. Take your favorite food, maybe like pizza. You

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Speaker 1: our little soul comes to planet Earth to experience new things. Now, Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: when we come here, we forget who we really are,

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Speaker 1: and we're here amidst other people, amidst joy, suffering ups

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Speaker 1: and downs, and it can be tough. But eventually we

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Speaker 1: go back home. So, if you're a lover of Disney

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Speaker 1: and you want to go to Disney World, say on holiday,

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Speaker 1: take some time, plenty of planning, plenty of money, of course,

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Speaker 1: but it's a special time. You probably go with your

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Speaker 1: family or some friends, and once you get there, there's

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Speaker 1: all kinds of things you experience. Certainly there's the different

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Speaker 1: there are all kinds of different attractions. Some are exhilarating,

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Speaker 1: So we go round and round, so many different things

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Speaker 1: amongst us my friends that come here to Earth kind

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Speaker 1: Do you ever feel like you're sitting in the parking

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Speaker 1: lot everyone else has gone in, everyone else is experiencing,

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Speaker 1: but you're not. And why wouldn't we because of fears

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Speaker 1: that we might have, because of times in our life

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Speaker 1: something to experience. So if you haven't seen Coco or Soul,

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Speaker 1: Sunday gatherings again completely free, not religious at all, and

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Speaker 1: Are you welcome? John? How does your story start? Can

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Speaker 1: to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sander Schamplain and we

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Speaker 1: may feel a warmth on your shoulder and you're gonna

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Speaker 1: turn around and say, oh, it must be the heat.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna show you anywhere that they can to get

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Speaker 1: your attention and just invite them in your child my

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Speaker 1: mom step then step and meaning step into their space.

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Speaker 1: And that's how we teach students. Step in, step into

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Speaker 1: my shoes, step close and let me feel you and

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Speaker 1: let your love one no, because they do take the

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Speaker 1: cues from you, They really really do. If they know

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Speaker 1: showing your sign is stepping close to you, or you

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Speaker 1: have them feeling you, or you're seeing things or hearing

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Speaker 1: things and you freak out, you get really emotional because

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Speaker 1: of the contact, they'll wait or to go to somebody else.

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Speaker 1: So let them know that you're ready, that you welcome

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Speaker 1: any signs from them and be open not It could

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Speaker 1: be an after debt communication sign, or it could be

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Speaker 1: a physical sign that you're feeling them. And people say, Sandral,

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Speaker 1: how do I know what's them? You'll know. You'll know

447
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: when your heart. If you say to yourself, is this

448
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Speaker 1: coming to me? Or is this coming from me? You

449
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Speaker 1: know when it's your own mind sometimes, so what's your imagination?

450
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: And imagination will just come in and go away, but intuition,

451
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: your soul, spirit communication keeps coming back and you are controlled.

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Speaker 1: This is a big thing to Sandra. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people who are experimenting with mediumship is to be sensitive.

454
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Speaker 1: They can't shut it off. They're walking around they say,

455
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Speaker 1: I see the people, I see people on the other

456
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Speaker 1: side all day. That's an untrained medium. You have to

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Speaker 1: learn the master of your abilities. I don't really like

458
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Speaker 1: to say gifts too much because gifts sounds like I

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Speaker 1: have it, and you don't master the ability of how

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Speaker 1: the psychic mechanisms of yourself work. So you are the

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Speaker 1: master of your abilities. It is not the master of you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like it. And then you know, we're all familiar

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Speaker 1: with gut instincts, right, so that is that's a psychic ability.

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Speaker 1: So it's like we have them. You can see when

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Speaker 1: you walk into a room, somebody's got good vibes, somebody

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Speaker 1: you want to stay away from. We do have this,

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Speaker 1: like you say, you know, if you want to go

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Speaker 1: train to be a medium, and some people that is

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Speaker 1: there's maybe a soul's plan or something. But we all,

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Speaker 1: all of us, can can start this kind of stuff immediately,

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Speaker 1: and maybe you can shed a little light on this

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Speaker 1: when we die or step into the other side. I

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Speaker 1: don't think we are given all knowing of the whole

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Speaker 1: universe so that they know how to do all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, yes, you know. God, you're a good woman. God,

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Speaker 1: You've done your work because a lot of people they

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Speaker 1: come to me. I had one woman come to me

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Speaker 1: and she said, can my father help me with my finances?

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Speaker 1: And I say this story all the time, and I said, well,

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Speaker 1: how was he here with money? And she said he

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Speaker 1: sucked with money? Uh, or he was awful with money?

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Speaker 1: And I said, well he still is. I said, just

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Speaker 1: because somebody passes away doesn't make him a bookkeeper, an accountant,

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Speaker 1: or a financial advisor. Um. Now, maybe maybe Sandra, if

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Speaker 1: her dad was a anchor or a financial planner and

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Speaker 1: then he passes he still has that knowledge. We'll be

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Speaker 1: right back to hear more from John Holland. You're listening

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Speaker 1: of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlaine and we're here with

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Speaker 1: medium John Holland and John you were just saying that

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Speaker 1: just because we transition, we don't have all the information

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Speaker 1: and the universe. I had two sisters come to see

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Speaker 1: me too, and the mother came through and that was fine.

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Speaker 1: And at the end of the reading, I heard one

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Speaker 1: of the sisters sigh and I said, were you not happy?

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Speaker 1: She said, no, John, the reading was great. You know,

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Speaker 1: I know it was my mom, she said. But the

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Speaker 1: one thing I wanted to hear was my mom tell

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Speaker 1: me should I divorce my husband? And I said, oh, darling, look,

534
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Speaker 1: I said, those on the other side they cannot interfere

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Speaker 1: with the comic lessons that we're supposed to learn here.

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Speaker 1: They can't, all right, So um, she can't say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: divorce him. It's not her job. That's a That's the

538
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Speaker 1: thing you have to deal with that. They support you,

539
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Speaker 1: there to help you, but they don't become all knowing

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Speaker 1: in every single subject. Some people come to see me

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Speaker 1: they want their love one to give them spiritual advice. Well,

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Speaker 1: did they do spiritual service here? Just see what I mean?

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Speaker 1: I hear you, Chuckley, you know, and I really believe

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Speaker 1: it's true. Though. I really believe that when you go

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Speaker 1: to the other side, Um, you may have a higher

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Speaker 1: view of things. And I liken it to this. If

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Speaker 1: you're in space or above the earth, you can see

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Speaker 1: where a river start, right, if you see from what

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Speaker 1: ocean it turns into a river, and you can see

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Speaker 1: where the river is going. Um, just a higher view,

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Speaker 1: but you can't influence it. Do you see what they mean?

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Speaker 1: So I think that they can help you, guide you,

553
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Speaker 1: put you with the right place at the right time,

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Speaker 1: play with synchronicity to show you that they're there. But

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Speaker 1: they're not all knowing beings, meaning your loved ones. Then

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00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: you've got the guides and the angels, which is a

557
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: whole another level, you know, the celestial playing. Yeah, maybe

558
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Speaker 1: a dumb question, but our loved ones just floating around us.

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Speaker 1: Are they up to things? Are they continuing their life?

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Speaker 1: Are they continuing learning? Yes? And it's were we try

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Speaker 1: to explain. One of my good colleagues and she became

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Speaker 1: a friend of mine who used to tour with Wayne Dia,

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Speaker 1: Anita Moore, Johnny and Yes, the most kindest woman in

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Speaker 1: the world to also and a good friend. In her

565
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Speaker 1: book Dying to Be Me, woman passes away. She she

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Speaker 1: was on death store, goes to the other side. She

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Speaker 1: had stage four cancers to him as the sides of

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Speaker 1: tennis balls. And she meets her dad and she had

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Speaker 1: the whole experience over there on the other side, and

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Speaker 1: he says, if you come back, you have a job here.

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Speaker 1: But you know, it was fascinating. She said to me that, Um,

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Speaker 1: when she was on the other side, she could see

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Speaker 1: her family in the operating room while looking down at her.

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Speaker 1: She didn't know how to connect to us and see,

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Speaker 1: so first of all, I will answer your questions, but

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Speaker 1: those on the other side they also have to learn

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Speaker 1: how to do this again, communicate with physical beings with

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Speaker 1: the power of thought. Yeah, so you know. And then

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Speaker 1: when she came back, well, this goes to your question,

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Speaker 1: what are they doing on the other side. Now we

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Speaker 1: try to explain it in physical forms. Do that because

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Speaker 1: they'll come through saying they they'll they'll tell me on

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Speaker 1: the other side, or show me. Look, they have their

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Speaker 1: body back is there really a body, or they really

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Speaker 1: show me that, isn't it a spiritual body? I'm still

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Speaker 1: don't know, and I don't even claim to know all

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Speaker 1: the answers. I can only go by what I've heard

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Speaker 1: from near death experiences. Um like a neater in Raymond

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Speaker 1: Moody's work who I Love Near death experiences in the

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Speaker 1: book also I write about but I've been I've been

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Speaker 1: told on the other side that there's schools, there's meadows,

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Speaker 1: there's different places of existence. Now here's something that it

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Speaker 1: when I was living in Massachusetts. Now I'm up in

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire. And as she was sitting with me, I

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Speaker 1: think it was in a group sitting and I said,

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Speaker 1: I just saw a wheelchair pushed across the room. I said,

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Speaker 1: why is your son already connected to the sun? I said,

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Speaker 1: your son is telling me he's not in the wheelchair anymore,

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Speaker 1: and he's running the bases B A S E S.

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Speaker 1: And I said do you understand that? And she started

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Speaker 1: to cry and I said, what what does that mean?

603
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Speaker 1: Because I don't know? Sometimes and she says, John, when

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Speaker 1: he was born he had spina biffida and he passed

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Speaker 1: suddenly because of a situation that happened. He heard his

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Speaker 1: neck and he passed as a young boy, so he

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Speaker 1: couldn't walk his whole life because of the Spina biffida.

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Speaker 1: Up in his room, he would sit in his wheelchair

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Speaker 1: and look out the window and the baseball field was

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Speaker 1: across the street where he could see all the boys playing,

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Speaker 1: and he always longed to be with those boys, but

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Speaker 1: he knew he never would. So Harry, is he passes away,

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Speaker 1: tells me tell him my mom, I don't eat the

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Speaker 1: wheelchair and I'm up running the bases now. So he's

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Speaker 1: playing baseball on the other side. So is that for

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Speaker 1: me to show the mother? Is it really a baseball field?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Sandra, but I can only go by

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Speaker 1: the things that I hear. Had another grandmother say to me.

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Speaker 1: Just tell tell my granddaughter um that she I'm in

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Speaker 1: my favorite chair on the porch and she and that's

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Speaker 1: exactly what she loved doing, is sitting in this wicker

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Speaker 1: rocker on her front porch overlooking her garden. So you

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Speaker 1: are they doing things on the other side other places.

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Speaker 1: I believe so. And Brian Weiss, because I'm so blessed

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Speaker 1: to be an author. I did to meet these people.

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Speaker 1: Brian Weiss, many lives, many masters. Every time he would

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Speaker 1: do a group regression, I would fall asleep. And I said, Brian,

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Speaker 1: why does this happen? Because I'm a song boist. I

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Speaker 1: went deep. He said the only way, he said, the

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Speaker 1: best thing to do is if you had a past

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Speaker 1: life regression yourself personally. So who did it? Brian himself?

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Speaker 1: So how cool is that he took me to you know,

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Speaker 1: he took me to that. I was into that in between.

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Speaker 1: I had a few pass life experience, but I was

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Speaker 1: in that in between place, not there, not here, like

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Speaker 1: there in the middle. I thought. My guides heard them.

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Speaker 1: I saw meadows, and you're going to hear this a lot.

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Speaker 1: I know you and a lot of people heard this.

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Speaker 1: The other side cannot be described because there's no words

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Speaker 1: to describe it. It's the strangest way to say this.

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Speaker 1: Everything is all energy, the colors, the flowers. It's just

642
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: really really different. But I was there and that's what

643
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: I saw. So I believe that we do do other things.

644
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: And another one really quickly, I had a son come

645
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: through tell my mom that I'm now teaching kids. Well,

646
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: just before he passed away. He was about to graduate

647
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: college with the bachelor's and teaching, so he does still

648
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: go on to do what he wanted to do in

649
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: this life, teaching kids. On the other side, it's I

650
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: don't know, you know what, Sanda, this is what's gonna happen.

651
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: We'll know when we go there. But I can I

652
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: can only give the best evidence possible. I can't going

653
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: to give the best evidence to hear it and for listeners.

654
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: Before or my dad passed away. He had well. First

655
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: of all, he had cancer thirty years prior and he

656
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: didn't die. And he's one of those miracles that survived.

657
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: He did all the mind over matter and the meditation

658
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: and worked with Dr Bernie Siegel and all those kind

659
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: of things. So he spent thirty years and really trying

660
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: to help people live. But he used to always say,

661
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: you know, you've got to fight this illness. You don't

662
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: get to bring your toys with you. Da da da

663
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 1: da da. So I was secretly studying is any evidence

664
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: of the afterlife? Just based on my own fears of dying.

665
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: You know, never told anybody. Dad was very religious, spoke

666
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: about Jesus more than anybody else on the planet and

667
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: went to Catholic church every day, and he ended up

668
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: passing away from cancer, and towards the end, I just

669
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: knew in my heart I had to tell my dad

670
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: about my secret study of the afterlife. And so with

671
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: really big eyes, he's looking at me like a little

672
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: bit freaked out but also a little bit interested. And

673
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: then John, it came out of nowhere. I'm seeing a

674
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: yellow airplane with black lettering, a tail dragger as they

675
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: called it. Dad was a pilot, and I said, Dad,

676
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm seeing this, but I'm seeing

677
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: this airplane and da da da, da da. I'm feeling

678
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: that a man is here and he's laughing and telling

679
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: me to tell you that you were wrong, that he

680
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: did get to bring his toys with him. And John,

681
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: in that moment, my dad started to cry. He said

682
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: his friend Jim had passed. Jim was a pilot, he

683
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: had the yellow airplane with the black lettering, and he

684
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: had had cancer. And Dad said I was always trying

685
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: to help him, say you got to fight this. You

686
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: can beat it, because you can't bring your toys with you.

687
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: So Dad then said, Sandra, tell me everything you know.

688
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: And it was because a dad who said, Sandra, when

689
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: I'm gone, promised me you write a book, and that's

690
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 1: how this all started. And so I do believe that

691
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: it's a great place. Maybe Earth is designed very similar

692
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: to it, but they don't have all their the answers

693
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: of how to communicate. So if it takes using some

694
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: of the practices within your book, even setting a time

695
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: mom today or tomorrow, we're gonna you know, I'm going

696
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: to quiet my mind and ask you to step forward

697
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: and you know, give that feedback. They don't have all

698
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: the answers, but that you still have the relationship. It's

699
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: funny you say that at the same time, because um,

700
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: I teach my students and this is how I was

701
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: taught is every Tuesday at six pm. This is in England,

702
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: every Tuesday for two straight years, I would sit in

703
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: a spirit circle with other mediums and you would for

704
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: an hour and a half an hour of just getting quiet, feeling,

705
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: let your loved ones come close, what it feels like

706
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: for spirit to come close. And there was a medium

707
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: that would keep our eyes open and watch all of

708
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: us and then half an hour give off what we got.

709
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: And through that practice is how I started. You know,

710
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: really you know refining, Um, you know the ability, but

711
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: I forgot where I was going with that, Sandra, Sorry,

712
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: Oh no, you and I are so funny. We were

713
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: talking about Tuesday Spirit. Yes, every Tuesday, that's right, the

714
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: schedule you sit setting the time I beg your pardon,

715
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: so every Tuesday, Um, I was committed. And the organizer,

716
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it was in her home. She said, listen,

717
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: be here at six o'clock. Spirit is going to be

718
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: here at six, So you honor them because they're going

719
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: to be here. And if you weren't there by six,

720
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: they would lock the door, um, and you couldn't get

721
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: in because anyway you disturbed me. So I was there,

722
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: and you know when I took the bus to get there,

723
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: So I was there all the time. When you're doing

724
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: this kind of work, I teach my students also, whether

725
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: you're meditating, communicating with spirit, try to do it in

726
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: the same room at the same time. What happens is

727
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: the energy in the room of that space if you

728
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: don't have a full room, because the energy starts to

729
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 1: build around it and around it where it's it gets

730
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: easier and easier to make that contact because you've already

731
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: built up the energy. Um. In the room and if

732
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: you can't be there at the same time, at least

733
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: trying to do it in the same spot. And it

734
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 1: gets easier and easy to slip into that space because

735
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: there was a there's a fee to the room. Just

736
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: like you said, when you can when you meet someone

737
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: or you walk into a room that's clear sentient, you

738
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: can feel it. So it is make a commitment and

739
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: set a time, make an appointment with spirit, and they

740
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: will never let you down. So you try to stay

741
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: to the appointed time. So you know, good on you,

742
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: Thank you for that. You're welcome. And I'd like to

743
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: talk to us a little bit about your thoughts on

744
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: being human a bit, because it's so easy to be

745
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: a skeptic, and it's so easy even me, for all

746
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: these years of doing all this, I don't wake up

747
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 1: in the morning remembering this. You know, I get the

748
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: negative thoughts in my head. Sure you think that the

749
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: world of negative thoughts or doubt, ors, cynicism, skepticism and

750
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: all that is just part of being human and it

751
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: keeps us tied into the game of life. I mean,

752
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: because it's I don't even know if I'm asking a

753
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: real question here, but no, I understand thoughts, maybe with

754
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: prythical beings and spiritual beings. And a gentleman asked me once,

755
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: why would I wonder when he says, I'm you know,

756
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: we're in the physical world. Why why do I even

757
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: want to investigate or to understand or discover my spiritual side?

758
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: I said, because they said, you're physical being and a

759
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: spiritual being. We have both. If you're too physical and

760
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: not acknowledging your spiritual side, or if you're spiritual Sandra,

761
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: who and so the people who take it way too far,

762
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: they get the physical everything is like woo woo. It's

763
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: a fifty fifty to honor only one side, whether it's

764
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 1: physical spiritual, You'll only live in a life have lived.

765
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: We have to take a short break. We'll be back

766
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: in just a minute. You're listening to Shades of the

767
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 1: Afterlife on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast

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Speaker 1: a m paranormal podcast network. Stay right there, there's more

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Speaker 1: Sandra coming right out. At paranormal date dot com. You

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Speaker 1: who understands me. How so well, I'm into UFOs, go

773
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774
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775
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Speaker 1: nice to meet you, Tom, I gotta go. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: guess that's not your cup of tea? Are you? Sure?

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786
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787
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain

801
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: and we're with the amazing John Holland John before the break,

802
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 1: we're talking about being human and the mistakes we've all made.

803
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: I make mistakes, I say stupid things, we have these thoughts.

804
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: Be a human. Just remember if you if you have

805
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: a negative thought, if you snap at somebody, or you

806
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: say something too soon to somebody, Um, you know that's

807
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: your ego, not your soul doing that. What are you

808
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: gonna do about it next time? So you don't have

809
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: that reaction. But it's we're human. It's okay. I don't

810
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: walk around levitating with my palms up, you know, with

811
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: beams of light coming out of my hand. I'm a human,

812
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: just a guy, and a lot of people forget that

813
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: I'm just a guy who has his ability, and they

814
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: think that I know all the answers. I don't. It's

815
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: fifty I'm doing the best that I can with the

816
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: time that we have. Yeah, and it comes out of

817
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: making the wrong decisions that we learned to make the

818
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 1: right decisions. It comes out of them some of the

819
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: most horrific trauma is and and rotten things that happened

820
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: to our life. I think that have us wake up

821
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: and have our still souls start to grow and start

822
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: getting us on the spiritual path. Right. I would have

823
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: never been on this had my dad not died the

824
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: way he did and the family start fighting the way

825
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: we did and learn and learning about growth. And out

826
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: of the worst thing that's ever happened to me when

827
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 1: I hit the deepest, darkest time in my life, came

828
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: the absolute best thing that's ever happened to me, Me

829
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: being on this journey and now being able to share. Yep,

830
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: and you know this too, like me with that accident. Um,

831
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 1: I think I if that accident actually saved my life,

832
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: because like I said, I was a young man living

833
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: in a crazy hill a you know, Los Angeles. Being

834
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: from New England, you know it was crazy life living

835
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: out there. But situations you may think of the worst

836
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: time in your life, or the people in your life

837
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: were the worst negative relationship, they can be the biggest

838
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: I learned this from my colleague of mine too. It's

839
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: it can be a situation like that that you learned

840
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: the most from, or a negative situation could be the

841
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: biggest spiritualist catalyst for you. Because if everything is good,

842
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: you're learning. I understand that. But it's those hard lessons,

843
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: the hard things that happened to you, that's when you

844
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: really shift if you do something about it. If if

845
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: something happens to you, Yes, you can complain that my

846
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: parents were like this, my parents were like this, and

847
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: but what are you gonna do about it? Now? You see?

848
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: So don't complain that this is what life did to me.

849
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: What are you going to do about it? You know,

850
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: we we have free will here. Yeah, Neil Donald Walsh

851
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: has a great home. I can't remember exactly what it is,

852
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: but it's something to do with your dreams fulfilled or

853
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: outside of your comfort zone. Yeah, I bashed whatever the

854
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 1: quote is but it really is. It takes courage. Fear

855
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: can arise, but it's like you've got to cross that barrier.

856
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: You can take action and it may not be comfortable,

857
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: but there's great stuff there. John, can you talk a

858
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: little bit about our soul? Who are we as soul beings?

859
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: And you know, is there a plan for our soul?

860
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,959
Speaker 1: Do you notice that everything is soul? Soul? Soul now?

861
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: Because what that word is really really big? And I

862
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: always say to my students or the audience, what is

863
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: the soul? You hear soul food, that person has soul.

864
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: Look at them dancing his soul as beanie, What is

865
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: the soul? What is the soul? And for this conversation

866
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: soul in spirit? Same thing in the book I break

867
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: it down differently, but for right now, same thing. I

868
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: say to people, what what does it mean to you?

869
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: And you hear all kinds of answers, but it's really

870
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: it's our essence. It's who you really are. You were

871
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: a soul that comes with a body, not a body

872
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 1: that comes with the soul. Everyone thinks, oh, my body

873
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: and I have a soul with me. No, you're so

874
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: first that has a body. You are so long before

875
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: you incarnated into this world. You're gonna be a so

876
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: long after you leave this world. Um, you know, and

877
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: the soul the other side, that's that's our real home.

878
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 1: So it's the essence. And your soul tries to get

879
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: your attention all the time through different ways. It tries

880
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: and tries dreams, intuition, synchanistic events, and wake up calls.

881
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: Those are the four up ones that I write about.

882
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: My wake up call. I mean, your soul is like, okay,

883
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 1: let's give him this change seat to put them on

884
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 1: the path and net and listen to that intruction, give

885
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: them that little nudge. Nope, okay, we'll put these people

886
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: in situations in front of them. Didn't listen to it.

887
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: And then finally wake up calls. My wake up call

888
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: was that accident, and I believe that we don't get

889
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: too many of them. That's an opportunity. Now. I'm not

890
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: saying that my soul made me have that accident or

891
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: maybe it was planned, I don't know, but it put

892
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 1: me on the path of where I was going. And

893
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: by me accepting that accident and say okay, my life

894
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: has got to change, Um, I met my soul halfway.

895
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: In other words, my physical self, met my soul, and

896
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: I did a lot. I did a lot of work.

897
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: So the soul is who you really are. And some

898
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 1: people say to me to Sandraw, what's my purpose? John,

899
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: I'm so confused. That's my purpose? Now we get confused.

900
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: The purpose. Purpose is not to be a host like

901
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: you a radio host or an author, or me a medium,

902
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: or um a mom just to be a mom or

903
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: the president of just to be a president or of

904
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: a company or something. Your sole purpose for here is

905
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: to be all that you can be, a divine being

906
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: from God or the Source, using your gifts, talents and

907
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: abilities to help others. So that's what I say. It's

908
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: my my ability of mediumship, me as a medium. My

909
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: purpose wasn't to be a medium. It's to use that

910
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: ability of mediumship to help others um in any way

911
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: that I can. So basically I think that's it. It's

912
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: your essence, it's your soul is basically your essence. But

913
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: we don't listen to it a lot, Uh, Sandra, We

914
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: forget that we even have one. Like I said, technology

915
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: has pulling us away from our soul. It will always

916
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: be there, but we're so programmed now to be in

917
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: the outside world and seek all the answers on our outside,

918
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: whether it's the world around us or technology. So go

919
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: in once in a while, help us. Soul check once

920
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: in a while. And if you're ever saying to yourself,

921
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 1: for you, for anyone who's listening, for all the people

922
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: who are listening. If you keep saying, I really want

923
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: to take that class, or like me, I would drive

924
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: by the s p c A the Society Preventually the

925
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 1: Cruelty to Animals. For weeks and weeks, I kept saying,

926
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: maybe I should go in there and ask them, can

927
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: I help raise money? Maybe I should go in there.

928
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: I finally did I have my own animal charity that

929
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 1: raised a hundred thirty five dollars or animals that needs

930
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 1: certain operations for the New Hampshire sc A. That's your soul.

931
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: Anytime you keep saying I can't keep living this way,

932
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: what's wrong with me? I really should. If it keeps

933
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: coming back to you those statements, that's just soul's way

934
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: of saying, you've got to check in with me. And

935
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: that's when you have to learn to meditate a little.

936
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: Help me, So show me the synchronistic events. So there

937
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: was a little you know, there's a little work, work

938
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: and what you sold. It took us years to not

939
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: listen to It just takes a little more time now

940
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: to understand how it works and its promptings. Listen and

941
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: to pay attention to these synchronicities and these little passions

942
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 1: that you've had ad and they can change throughout your life.

943
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 1: I don't think there's one thing we're meant to do.

944
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: But when you said help others, you know, in my

945
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: invisible writing, I'm doing right now, help others. Underline, underline, underline, underline.

946
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: It really is about using who we are and making

947
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 1: a difference for others. We tap asselves. Absolutely. One person

948
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: said to me too, I'm just one person. What can

949
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: I do? And I said, are you kidding me? One

950
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: kind act can create a ripple effect that reaches father

951
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 1: then you could ever imagine. And that's simply that's your

952
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: soul saying to do this. Don't do it because you

953
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: want something back. The universe will take care of you

954
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: in its own way. But I do this. Sometimes I

955
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: go through tolls, even though I have that piece of

956
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: equipment that I can just buzz with the toll. But

957
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: every once in a while, if I'm drawn to I

958
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: will go where people have to throw the coins and no,

959
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: I'll reach into my car and I'll take out the

960
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: money and she'll see that I can get through. And

961
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: I'll say, this is for the person behind the tone

962
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: of a good day. Maybe they were having such a

963
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: bad day, or they were hurt by someone, or they

964
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: didn't believe in people, and they go do that toll.

965
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 1: Maybe that'll change a person's mind at least for that moment,

966
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: and then they go on and it makes them have

967
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: a better day. You never know what one kind act

968
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: is going to do for you. You don't know the

969
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: ripple effect, and you may never know, but trust me,

970
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 1: kindness and love it ripples through the world. It ripples

971
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: through the universe. And when that gentleman says, well, I'm

972
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: just one man, what can I do? Imagine if all

973
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: of us did something like that, or you know, I

974
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: believe in the power of numbers. So yeah, it's beautiful. Yeah.

975
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: There's a movie called Pay It Forward that came out

976
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: many years The little kid remember that. It was great.

977
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: And I have interviewed a ton of people john that

978
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: have had near death experiences and when they talk about

979
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 1: the life review, it is going through life seeing the

980
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: difference you made with other people. A lot of at

981
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: first the negative, you actually get to feel any pain

982
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: or sorrow or whatever. However, after that you get to

983
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: see the ripple effect of the good that you've done.

984
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: And that amazes me and that helps me live now

985
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: that it's easy for me to complement somewhat I don't know.

986
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: Or if they've got a great smile, I tell them

987
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: so we have just a few minutes left. Any final

988
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: words of motivation or inspiration or well whatever I say too.

989
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: If a lot of people they put their phone beside

990
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: them when they go to bed, and I understand that

991
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: it could be the alarm, um. But if you're just

992
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: really quickly you you wake up, you just left that

993
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: you were in that beautiful sleep state before you reach

994
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: for the technology. Yes, okay, shut the alarm off if

995
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: that's what you know. That's how if you use your

996
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: phone for that, But put your hand on your heart

997
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: in the middle of your chest and just just have

998
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: one word to set the tone for the day, whether

999
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: it's peace, healing, love, prosperity, a positive word, um, and

1000
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: before you look at Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, emails, because you're

1001
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: leading in that beautiful place that you just worry through.

1002
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: It was on the other side with juvenate A just

1003
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: like your body is in the physical and you go

1004
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: immediately into technology all right before put your hand on

1005
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: your heart and say I am soul. S o u oh,

1006
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: I am soul and set that word. So my thing

1007
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: that I came up with, um, Sandra, is instead of

1008
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: reading first thing in the morning, instead of reaching for

1009
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: your outer technology, reach for your inner technology. Yeah not that,

1010
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: not your day off that way? Thank you? Yeah, I

1011
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: love it. I love it well. Thank you from the

1012
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,959
Speaker 1: bottom of all of our hearts for being our guest today, Sandra,

1013
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: thank you so much, and for our listeners, thank you

1014
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 1: for being here. It's funny how we started out talking

1015
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: about Disney and the movie Soul and we end this

1016
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: episode talking about our souls, coincidence or divine planning. Question,

1017
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: what are you going to do today and how are

1018
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: you going to be going forward? Are you going to

1019
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: look for the good in people, take the stuff that

1020
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: happens in life as education for the soul and look

1021
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: to see what you can learn from it. Are you

1022
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: going to pay it forward or do a random act

1023
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: of kindness? You can call or message a friend to

1024
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 1: tell them how much you care for them, or perhaps

1025
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 1: pay a compliment to a stranger. We are each soul's

1026
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: having a human experience, and we are so much more

1027
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: powerful than we realize. I'd like to leave you with

1028
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: this thought. Watch your thoughts, for they become words. Watch

1029
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: your words, for they become actions. Watch your actions, for

1030
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 1: they become habits. Watch your habits for they become character.

1031
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny. Again, thank

1032
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: you to our guest, John Holland, and visit John Holland

1033
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,439
Speaker 1: dot com. Also come join us at one of our

1034
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: free Sunday gatherings. Find out more that we Don't Die

1035
00:55:55,200 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: dot com. I'm Sandra Champlain. Thanks for listening to Shades

1036
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: of the Afterlife on the I Heart Radio and Coast

1037
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: to Coast, a m paranormal podcast network. And if you

1038
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: like this episode of Shades of the Afterlife, wait until

1039
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: you hear the next one. Thank you for listening to

1040
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a M

1041
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