1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: M hm okay. Welcome to the Therapy for Black Girls Podcast, 2 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: a weekly conversation about mental health, personal development, and all 3 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: the small decisions we can make to become the best 4 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: possible versions of ourselves. I'm your host, Dr joy hard 5 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: and Bradford, a licensed psychologist in Atlanta, Georgia. For more 6 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: information or to find a therapist in your area, visit 7 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: our website at Therapy for Black Girls dot com. While 8 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: I hope you love listening to and learning from the podcast, 9 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: it is not meant to be a substitute for a 10 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: relationship with a licensed mental health professional. Hey, y'all, thanks 11 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,959 Speaker 1: so much for joining me for session two forty two 12 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: of the Therapy for Black Girl's podcast. We'll get right 13 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: into the episode after a word from our sponsors. Even 14 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: if your current wardrobe consists of nothing but sweats and 15 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: T shirts, there may be certain virtual experiences or socially 16 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: distant activities that require you to be just a little 17 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: more polished. Joining us today to help us get our 18 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: closets and our personal style together is Germany. G Germany 19 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: is a tenure veteran in the fashion and retail industry. 20 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: As a breakout stylist, Germany Styling niche has led her 21 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: to work with some of California's most prominent influencers, professionals 22 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: and executives like Bosoma st John Robin and Andrea McBride, 23 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: Belicia Butterfield, Jones, and many more. Germany dedicates her styling 24 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: prowess to making her clients look and feel their best selves, 25 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: exude confidence, and elevate their personal brands. Germany and I 26 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: chatted about how did the fine style, some staples to 27 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: help build the foundation of a wardrobe, how to choose 28 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: styles for your body type, and her thoughts on the 29 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: pieces to splurge on and the ones to save on. 30 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: If there's something that resonates with you while enjoying our conversation, 31 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: please share with us on social media using the hashtag 32 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: TBG in Session. Here's our conversation. So I would love 33 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: it if you could start by telling us what you 34 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: do as a personal stylist and how you got into this. Yeah, So, 35 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: what I do as a personal stylist is really take 36 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: the time to develop my client's personality everything they are, 37 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: the things that make them them and also the words 38 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: that represent them and bring that to life through what 39 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: they wear. And that's what I do as a personal stylist, 40 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: and I help them feel and look their best selves 41 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: and really command the rooms through their style. And so 42 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: I would say personal style is really truly helping your 43 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: clients really understand who they are and bringing out the 44 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: best version of themselves through what they're wearing. And so 45 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: how would we find a personal stylist? So I know 46 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people probably use something like Instagram, but like, 47 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: how do we know that people are actually legit like 48 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: kinds of questions would you ask, right, because I'm guessing 49 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: there's no no like licensure, right, Like anybody could call 50 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: themselves a stylist. Oh my god, No, there isn't. And like, 51 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: Instagram is probably one of the best tools to really 52 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: find someone who you like and you feel like resonates 53 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: with your style. But I would also say, like you 54 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: should be caution when you are seeing personal stylists because 55 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: some people bring themselves as personal stylists and then after 56 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: you work with them or after you have their chat 57 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: with them, they can't really translate who you are through 58 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: what you're wearing. Some people can only like copy paste 59 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: like their style or copy paste a certain style. I 60 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: think when you're trying to find in the stylist, like 61 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: ask all the tough questions. How long have you been 62 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: in the business, what's your styling approach? What questions are 63 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: you gonna ask me? Are you asking about my lifestyle? 64 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: Are you asking about my body type? Have you styled 65 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: certain body types? And have you styled all body types? 66 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: Are you comfortable with that? And so I think it's 67 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: a dating process in general, because like you said, there 68 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: is no licensure, but it's just really having the good 69 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: and tough questions when it comes to, Okay, what is 70 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: it that you want to get out of this? Do 71 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: you want to build a long lasting relationship with the 72 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: stylists or do you just want to be styled for 73 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: it's your fifty birthday, it's your thirtieth birthday, and you 74 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: just want to be cute. And so I think it's 75 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,239 Speaker 1: about what is it that you're actually trying to get 76 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: as a result of being styled? And then are they 77 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: a personal stylist who can actually get me? Oh that's 78 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: a great point. Yeah, so you know something in Germany, 79 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: I think that may be helpful for people to clear 80 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: up when you are styling people, who is buying the 81 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: clothes you are styling? Okay, So when I'm styling somebody personally, 82 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: the client is buying the clothes. I pretty much work 83 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: with all of my clients within their budget need. So 84 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: if you say your budgets of thousand dollars and we 85 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: are contracted for four looks, we're gonna get you four 86 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: amazing looks for the thousand dollars. But they're gonna be quality, 87 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: They're gonna be versatile, They're gonna be able to even 88 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: flow with you throughout your life. Got it? That's helpful 89 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: information to know. Can you tell me about the difference 90 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: between fashion and style. Yes, the difference between fashion and 91 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: style is that fashion runs on like trend cycles. So 92 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: whatever is the hottest the coldest thing right now is fashion, 93 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: and we can adopt from fashion and bring that into 94 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: our style. But style has developed over time. Style really 95 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: helps you understand who you are as an individual, what 96 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: really attracts you, what looks best on you, what helps 97 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: you feel your most confident self? And fashion is, you know, 98 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: like I said it, what is the hottest thing right now? 99 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: And so I remember when the Fannie peck came back 100 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm not wearing a Fanni peg. 101 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: But then they but then they started to make different 102 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: iterations of the Fannie pack, and you find one that 103 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: you know feels best reflective of who you are, and 104 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, this leather Fannie pack, I can adopt 105 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: that and like bring that into my personal style. But 106 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: I'm not going to spend a thousand dollars on a 107 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: Gucci Fannie pack that looks like something I saw in 108 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: the nineties that was a hundred dollars. And so when 109 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: you think about fashion and style, that also kind of 110 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: helps you understand what you should splurge or just not 111 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: splurge on until that kind of depends on you. And 112 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: so like, if you're really into sneakers and Balenciaga sneakers, 113 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,799 Speaker 1: are you know a thing right now? I would say, 114 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: if you know that you're going to wear that all 115 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: the time, spend your money on it. That's a part 116 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: of your style. If the Balenciaga sneakers are not or 117 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: sneakers aren't really in your style identity, I would say 118 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: pass on that trend. Or I'm never really into like dupes, 119 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: but if you can find a dupe that you're not 120 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: gonna be able to spend like thousands of dollars on, 121 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: I would rather do that versus spend all this money 122 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: and then you're not ever wear at the product. So 123 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: you mentioned our style identity, and I think that that 124 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: would be helpful for people to just hear more about. 125 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: So what kinds of questions can we ask ourselves to 126 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: even figure out what our personal style lead? Yeah? So 127 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: when are you talking about styles? Kind of like dating yourself? 128 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: Like what are you attracted to? What colors do you 129 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: like that make you feel confident? What silhouettes make you 130 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: feel confident. I have a class where I actually take 131 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: the time to help women really like understanding hone in on, 132 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: you know, really what they like, and so I give 133 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: them about a week to like screenshot, do some magazine grabs, etcetera, etcetera, 134 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: going Pinterest and then just you know, pin all those 135 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: things and put them in a file. And then we 136 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: go through that fire and we look at the high 137 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: level theme. So if I'm seeing like a lot of leather, 138 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, so you're really attracted to leather. Do 139 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: you like leather jackets? Do you like leather pants? Like? 140 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: How can we infuse this into your wardrobe and style? 141 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: And then the same with prince patterns, textures still a 142 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: wets etcetera, etcetera. It's really about doing the work, and 143 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't want to do the work 144 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: until you get so frustrated with style and you want 145 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: to go with ease because you're like, Okay, I know 146 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: my leggings and my my sweatshirt is gonna be good 147 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: and it's easy. I know I look good in it, 148 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna keep going. But you really have to 149 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: do the work to really understand your personal style, to 150 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: create that identity that you're trying to achieve and really 151 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: feel and show up as your most confident sealth. Yeah. 152 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: You bring up a really good point because I think 153 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: many of us, yeah what I call just soft clothes 154 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: for like the past two years, like leggings and sweatshirts 155 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: and T shirts, right, because we're mostly at home, I 156 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: think for a lot of people. Correct, But if we 157 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: are starting to to go back into the world, or 158 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: we need to go back right because the offices are 159 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: opening up, whatever, how do we even start building a wardrobe? Like, 160 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: what are some of the basics? Yeah, so some of 161 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: the basics I always cautioned by saying basics have to 162 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: do with where you are, your lifestyle, etcetera, etcetera. So 163 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: a person in New York's basics are probably gonna be 164 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: a little bit different from a person in l A. 165 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: But what is probably the most universal for all people, 166 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: all areas throughout the country and abroad. I like an 167 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: oversized button up, but you can also do a tailor 168 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: button up, and that can be white or striped, or 169 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: silk or cotton, you know, whatever feels most authentic to you. 170 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: I would say a nice pair of skinny jeans. I 171 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: know that this has been like a thing because you know, 172 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: gen z ears are like skinny jeans are dead. Skinny 173 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: jeans will never be dead. But I am down for 174 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: a mom jeans for sure. But you definitely always need 175 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: a good pair of jeans, like I would say a 176 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: nice pair of medium washing, a nice pair of black gene. 177 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: And then also a leather pair of pants, and then 178 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: do you need a leather jacket or a denim jacket? 179 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 1: Like these are the building box to your wardrobe. And 180 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: then I will also say a great T shirt, a 181 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: great cameras al those are like really good building blocks 182 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: to start, and then you kind of build from there. 183 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: And so you have given us some great basics. Now 184 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: what are some of the things you feel like people 185 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,599 Speaker 1: often overlooked but really need to pay attention to do 186 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: when building their wardrobe. That's good, okay, So what people 187 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: usually overlooking What I've always found as a commonality through 188 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: working with clients is people either lean too far into 189 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: statement pieces or too much into basics. You need to 190 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: have a healthy medium in between. And so when I 191 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: say statement is like those true wild pieces, and then 192 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: you have those wild pieces, and then you don't know 193 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: how to pay it back to anything because you don't 194 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: have the basics. And then vice versa, people who have 195 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: tons of basics feel boring because they don't have any 196 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: wild pieces, right, And so you have to have a 197 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: happy medium and between of Okay, what can I have 198 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: to like edge up like my regular sweater, like does 199 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: it have cutouts, does it have texture, etcetera, etcetera. Or 200 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: even with pants, once you find a fit that works 201 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: for you, don't have to be the same color, like 202 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: let's try different texture, let's try different pattern, Let's try, 203 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, like something with some zippers on it, so 204 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, have fun with it. Like even if you 205 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: find a fit that works for you, don't do the 206 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: copy method and we're just going to buy eight of 207 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: the same color pants because we know that fits. Like, 208 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: let's have fun with our wardrobe and then also infuse 209 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: like some actual statement pieces into the wardrobe so that 210 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: you can have a healthy mix and balance, so that 211 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: you can build and you don't become bored with your wardrobe, 212 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: you know. I know. One of the parts that I 213 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: think sometimes it's frustrating is you know, of course all 214 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: of our bodies are different, right, different body sizes, body shapes, 215 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: and it often feels like you can only find like 216 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: certain sizes like in a store, you know, And so 217 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: can you say a little bit about what it means 218 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: for to dress for our bodies and what should we 219 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: know about our bodies to like know what kinds of 220 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: pieces that for sure, literally the biggest thing and the 221 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: biggest unlock you're ever going to have to learn is 222 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: like proportions. So everybody is shaped differently, And there's a 223 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: chart online and I think it has five different body 224 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: types for women. And while that is probably the best 225 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: place to go and just to see relatively what your 226 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: body type is, like, everybody's body is very different, and 227 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: so the thing is that you have to do proportion 228 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: play and so what that is is that you have 229 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: to create the facade of an hour glass if you will. 230 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:47,599 Speaker 1: And so say you have like a broader shoulder or 231 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: a bigger chest, so you within proportion play by wearing 232 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: a like a line dress or skirt, because then it's 233 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: going to balance your top half with the bottom half 234 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: vice versa. Pretty much like me, I am a pair 235 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: body type, so I have no boobs at all, and 236 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: then like all hips and thighs and so because I'm 237 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: more shapely on the bottom, I have to create an 238 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: illusion on the top, So I wear like ruffles on 239 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: the top, are aware like uh, like a one shoulder 240 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: top just to like add the balance to that. So 241 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: it's really all about proportions, all about balance, and so 242 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: never shame yourself for your body type. Just create that illusion. 243 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: I always say that staling is like smoking mirrors. And 244 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: how do we figure out or reckon I like personal 245 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: style with like corporate environments, right, so you know a 246 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: lot of like workspaces will have like not necessarily a uniform, 247 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: but like they're like guidelines around like what kinds of 248 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: things you're okay, what kind of things are not? So 249 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: how can we still have like our own personal style 250 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: within a corporate r Yeah, so one. I used to 251 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: work in corporate America and I would always book the trend. 252 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: And so even though GAP was still very much so 253 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: a fashion company, like we very much so operated like 254 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: a tech company, everyone was really in jeans and T shirts. 255 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: It kind of appalled me, however, we were in San Francisco. 256 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: But what I will say is that just buck the trend. 257 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: You know, if you work in tech and T shirts 258 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: and jeans is what is most accepted in your corporate environment. 259 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: Edge it up a bit, like get a nice blouse 260 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: and some jeans, Like you don't have to wear heels 261 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: by any means, but you know, like do something that 262 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: feels authentic to you that's going to help you feel 263 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: and show up as your best self. Also, you can 264 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: play with the accessories. You can wear a nice necklace 265 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: or layer on some necklace system, statement jewelry if it's 266 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,359 Speaker 1: accepted in your corporate environment. I am a strong proponent 267 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: of showing and being your most authentic self. So we're 268 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: head wrapped. You can wear rings and so, you know, 269 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: I feel like you can always up level any corporate 270 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: wear through accessories. Do something that's authentic to you, but 271 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: also I guess accepted into your environment. But you know, 272 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: but the trend a little bit as long as it accepted. 273 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: That's great advice. Yeah, more from my conversation with Germany 274 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: after the break. The journey of kind of like figuring 275 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: out your personal style and what that looks like can 276 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: be a frustrating one. What kinds of advice do you 277 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: give to people who might get frustrated or feel like 278 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: they need to rush this process. Take a breather. It's 279 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: not gonna happen overnight. Your style changes and develops over time, 280 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: and who you are today will not be who you 281 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: are in the next five years. You're gonna keep building 282 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: on that style, and you're not going to find your 283 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: style overnight. Like while you may then do an exercise 284 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: and unlock your personal style, that's just your building box. 285 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: That's where you're starting. And while you are growing and 286 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: building and learning yourself because you're like dating your stuff 287 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: to really understand your style, you're going to continue to 288 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: find new things that attract you, and you're going to 289 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: continue to build. And so I would say be patient 290 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: with yourself, continue to wear the things that make you 291 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: feel confident, but then know that like You're gonna just 292 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: keep getting better with time. The style that I have today. Lord, 293 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: I look at pictures from five years ago and I'm like, 294 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: who was that? Why was I wearing that? But at 295 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: that point in time, I thought I looked great. And 296 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: so be gentle with yourself because it's going to be 297 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: a process. And literally, it's just like wine, you get better, 298 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: you get finer with time. I love it. I love it. 299 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: You mentioned like the pivot that sometimes happens with our style, 300 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: that you know, sometimes we're kind of re envisioning ourselves. 301 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people may find themselves 302 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: there now, you know, kind of in the pandemic, or 303 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: maybe their body has changed, right, And so we're now 304 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: trying to figure out, okay, well what is my style now? 305 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: So what kinds of tips can you give to navigate that? Yes, 306 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: And I feel like I'm struggling with this myself. I 307 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: was literally having a conversation with my mom saying, I 308 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: have my pre pandemic self, my pandemic self, and then 309 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: my post pandemic self, although we're still in the pandemic, 310 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: but you know, my my post pandemic stuff. And I 311 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: had this vision of my style pre pandemic and then 312 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: during like in the Thicker pandemic, of course I was 313 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: in jeans and T shirts. And I mean not even 314 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: Jansch doesn't sweatpants all day and lounge clothes all day. 315 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: And now I have to be out for work and 316 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: I'm like, who I was two years ago is not 317 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: who I am today. And I'm not trying to spend 318 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: all this money on clothes. So what do I do? 319 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: I think to answer that question, Yes, I'm frustrating myself 320 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: and I'm learning who that new version of Germany is 321 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: in my style and who I want to show up 322 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: as and how I want to be perceived. And so 323 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: I would say, you know, start with like what you're 324 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: loving right now, and so I will even use myself. 325 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: I love everything oversized right now. My mom hates it. 326 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: I love it, And so what in my closet do 327 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: I currently have this oversized? What am I not feeling? 328 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: And like if I'm not feeling it, if I can't 329 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: like and match it with anything that I have in 330 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: my current wardrobe, I've literally started to goodwill it all 331 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: because it's not going to do any good. And my 332 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: wardrobe even if I can't make one to three outfits 333 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: with it. I always go with the rule of three. 334 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: If I can't make three outfits with it, it gotta go. 335 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: And so I think you really have to talk to 336 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: yourself and say, Okay, what is it that I'm attracted 337 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: to right now in my wardrobe that I'm willing to 338 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: like keep and using my style identity? And then are 339 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: there things in my wardrobe that aren't necessarily really a 340 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: part of my style identities? Say, skinny jeans, right, but 341 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: can I wear an oversized top with the skinny jeans. Absolutely, 342 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: So I'm going to keep those, and then anything that 343 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: I don't identify with it's got to go. So then 344 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: I start to make a list of Okay, what are 345 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: the things I need, Like right now, I'm very in 346 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: need of sneakers because I'm always, like constantly on the go. 347 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: In my old life, I could wear heels a lot 348 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: because you know, I wasn't always on the go, I 349 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 1: wasn't always on set. But this year has kept me 350 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: on set because I'm in a lot of productions. I'm 351 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: with my clients all the time, So I'm using my 352 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: heels less and needing sneakers more. And I want dope 353 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: sneakers and so now I have a list of Okay, 354 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: I want dope sneakers, I want more oversized silhouettes, etcetera, etcetera. 355 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: So I think you should start doing that to yourself. 356 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: What is it that I can wear my closet now? 357 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: What can actually go with my new style identity that 358 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: I can mix and match? What can I get rid of? 359 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: And then what can I make a list of the 360 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: things that I need? And how can I check that 361 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: stuff off my list? It doesn't have to be overnight, 362 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: but like, how can I start to do that over time? 363 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: So this sounds like a great exercise to do, even 364 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,479 Speaker 1: like when you're not revamping your correct like just like 365 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: an audit of what do I have? What do I 366 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: still love? Like lists of particular cadence. We might want 367 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: to do this for umselves. Yeah, I say, like, do 368 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: it every six months. I usually do it with this 369 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: season's And so after summer, when I'm about to go 370 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: to the story Junior, and I'll say, Okay, what is 371 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: it that I actually wore this summer? And I would say, like, 372 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: doesn't really count, right, because we were in the house, 373 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: and so if you were looking, I would say, Okay, 374 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: what is it that I wore this summer that I 375 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: actually loved. Okay, Am I going to continue to love 376 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: that next year? Okay? I think, so I'm gonna keep that. 377 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: What didn't I wear it this summer? And why didn't 378 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: I wear it this summer? And is it because I 379 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: just didn't have anywhere to go okay? Or did it 380 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: just not fit with me and who my style is? 381 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: And so then I just like nix those things who 382 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: don't reflect who I am, and then I do it 383 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: for the next season. And so I always say, if 384 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: I haven't thought about it, if I haven't looked at it, 385 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: let it go. If you're not quite ready to let 386 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: it go, I always say, put it in a pile 387 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: or like in the back of your closet once that 388 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: season rose in. If you have not thought about it, 389 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: let it go because you're not gonna think about it. 390 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. That's a great exercise. Great tips to include there. Yeah, 391 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: and always get a third party. Sometimes, you know, we're 392 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 1: so attached to our clothes because we are wearing things 393 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: and they go with our lives, and so it's like, 394 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: oh my god, I wore this sweater to my sister's graduation. 395 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 1: You don't need it ten years from now if you're 396 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: never gonna wear it again, like some things you're sentimental, 397 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 1: Like are you gonna keep it for sentimental? You have 398 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: to ask that to yourself. So would you say that 399 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: a good tailor can be a cheat code that's really 400 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: like taking your wardrobe to the next level. Can you 401 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: say a little bit about like what kinds of things 402 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: a tailor can do and why we might want to 403 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: use a tailor. Yeah, oh my god, I love all 404 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: of my tailors that I work with, But a tailor 405 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: can really truly make something yours. And so a tailor 406 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: can take in a garment and so it can really 407 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: like make you have like like snatched and it looks 408 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: like it was made for you aesthetic. They can also 409 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: like take up the hymns. I'm five three, So any 410 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: pair of wild leg pants and I love wild leg 411 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: pants that I get, I always have to take it 412 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: to my little tailor in l A. He's amazing and 413 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: he has to take them up. But also, like a 414 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: tailor can really like alter and transform a look. So 415 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: if there's a maxi dress that I want to make 416 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: a midi dress, my boy just snatches that fabric right 417 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: on out and they can really like alter a garment 418 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: and make it yours. And so, you know, for those 419 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: who are creative, add stuff to your garments, you add patches, 420 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,719 Speaker 1: add different fabrics to a garment to make it really yours. 421 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: Or you can just if you're on the safer side, 422 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: just get it tailored to you so it looks like perfection. 423 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: And anything you get tailored instantly looks more expensive because 424 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: it looks like it was made for you. Yeah. So 425 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: I love that you gave options for those who are 426 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: more creative, and people like you you are, like, I 427 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 1: have no idea what to tell them to do except 428 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: take it up right, you gotta here's a spectrum here, 429 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: right right right. So you've already mentioned, you know, and 430 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: even throughout this conversation, you've talked about the importance of 431 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: having fun with this, right, like, your your clothing and 432 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: your wardrobes tould be fun. And so I want to 433 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: do a little exercise with you to help our audience 434 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: to kind of think about, like how they might be 435 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: able to engage some playfulness into their own wardrobes. So 436 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: I want to give you a couple of fictional black 437 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: women characters, and I would love for you to tell 438 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,239 Speaker 1: me what accessory you'd suggest for them if it were 439 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: one of your clients. Let's do it, okay, So the 440 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: first one is dion D Davenport from Clueless. Of course, 441 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: she was known for the bucket hat, so I can't 442 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: say that buck it had, so I would say a 443 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: mini bag. You know, mini bags are really in right now. 444 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: I think that would totally be a natural adoption into 445 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: her style, and so I think for her preppy aesthetic, 446 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: like acute mini bag would probably be like her jam 447 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: I could totally see that. Yeah, okay, what about Denise 448 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: Nissy Jackson from Denise Nisy Jackson. I think that she 449 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: could probably get away with the fannie pack wearing it 450 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: around her chest. I think that would be like super 451 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: dope for her because she had like great street style, 452 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: Like I remember her for her street style, so anything 453 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: like street style related would probably be like her thing. 454 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: But I would probably say the fanny pack that you 455 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: could wear cushr shoulders. Okay, and then one more what 456 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: about Maya Oh hell yes Wilks from Girlfriend Oh hell yes? Okay, 457 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: let's see she was cute and whatever she wore, but 458 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,239 Speaker 1: I don't think she had like a style aesthetic, so 459 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: I probably do some like statement necklaces and later on 460 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: some necklaces for her. I think that would be really doping, 461 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: and even like some cute waste bells would probably be 462 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: nice for her too. Yeah. So, who are some of 463 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: the black women that you would induct into a fashion 464 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame? I feel like some of them are 465 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: already in there, like Tracy Ellis Ross, Like, that's my girl, 466 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: Kalana Barfield, she's amazing, Rihanna, She's amazing. Gosh. I feel 467 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: like my list can go on and on and on, 468 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,479 Speaker 1: but I would say, like those women are probably like 469 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: style icons, and I would definitely induct them into a 470 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Yeah, you started with one of my favorite, 471 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: Tracy Ellis Row. I said, I feel like you look 472 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: at what she shares and it's like, okay, well, clearly 473 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: Tracy has a team, right, Like, how could you even 474 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: start to go after something like Tracy style as a 475 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: regular woman. Yeah. Tracy does a lot of like proportion 476 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: play and just playing with different textures and fabrications, and 477 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: so I would say, oh my god, she just does 478 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: everything right, like she does like wild leg pants. So 479 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: I would say that was something that you could adopt 480 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: into your wardrobe. She does a lot with accessories, especially jewelry. 481 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: So I would say, if you're not ready to, you know, 482 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: do a whole fashion rehall to adopt Tracy style. Like 483 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: she layers a lot of necklaces these days. Also her 484 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: ring game is like tight and strong, and then she 485 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: just knows how to accessorize. And so I would say, like, 486 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: look at some pictures of Tracy really and say, like 487 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: what about her accessories or what about her style do 488 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: I like? And then what can I adopt that feels 489 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: in my price range? And so if you see like 490 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: wild leg pants and if you see that they were 491 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: made from a designer and you're not trying to spend 492 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: designer money, who can I go to? Can I go 493 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: to Tzara? You know, Zara is for the girls. Zara 494 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: Zara is gonna be able to like give me those 495 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: same pants probably for a fraction of the cost. Or 496 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: can I go to eleven on Array? If you're a 497 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: curvy girl? Can I go to a So it's like 498 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: where can I go to adopt these styles and then 499 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: take what I want from Tracy and then adopted into 500 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: my own podrobe? Love it more From my conversation with 501 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: Germany after the break. You've already mentioned using pinterests, like 502 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 1: you use that as a part of your class. Are 503 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: there other things that you would suggest for people who 504 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: maybe can't afford a personal silence but want to like 505 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: try to put their style identity together. Are there other 506 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: things besides pinterest that you would encourage them to use? 507 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: Instagram magazines? For sure, there's a lot of research online. 508 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: You just have to like sit and actually do it. 509 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: But I would say, like, sit and take some screen 510 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: grabs like green shot or put into a folder on Instagram, 511 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: like stylish women or people who you feel like have 512 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: style to you, and look at what you're attracted to, 513 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: see if there's a common theme, and start to go 514 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: from there, and then say, like what am I attracted to? 515 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: What am I willing to try and buy? And I 516 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: always say buy it. That's what return policies are for, 517 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: and so buy it. Try it on, go with the 518 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: rule of three. See if you can make three outfits 519 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: with it. If you cannot make three outfits, do not 520 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: keep it because it's not gonna do your wardrobe any justice. 521 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: So you bring up a really important point around like 522 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: buying stuff online, right, and so what kinds of things 523 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: should we be on the lookout for to determine quality 524 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: and making sure we're getting the most out of what 525 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: we purchase online. Yeah, this is really good, Okay, So 526 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: I would say buying online is one of the toughest 527 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: things because they can do a lot of work with 528 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: like color, they can make things lighter, they can make 529 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: things darker. So that's like a big frustration, so that 530 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: you can usually get around. A lot of tellers are 531 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: starting to use video, so click videos, like see what 532 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: the video says. Look at those reviews. What are the 533 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: people saying. Are they putting up photos? What have they said? 534 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 1: If they say it runs too small, know that you 535 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: need to size up. If they say it runs too big, 536 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: know that you need to size down. I literally read 537 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: the reviews for everything that I can, so that I 538 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: know for a client or for myself, like how to 539 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: proceed or not proceed. Like literally, reviews can make or 540 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: break if I purchase something or not. So read those reviews. 541 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: Look at the videos. Also when it comes to like 542 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: leathers online, if you're trying to buy leather, like if 543 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: it's too shiny, it probably is cheap. If you're getting 544 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: like this really really high shine. I would say, no, 545 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: that's probably not the best, like polyer thing, which is 546 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: pleather to go with. Get something that feels more reflective 547 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: to actual leather, unless it's supposed to be like a 548 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: vinyl leather. So yeah, I probably would say, like those 549 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: are like my key things. Look at the reviews, look 550 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: at the videos, look at the mints, and then leather. 551 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: Watch that shine on leather because it could either look 552 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: expensive or very inexpensive. Got it? And you alluded to 553 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: this a little earlier in talking about like things that 554 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: we find ourselves maybe wearing more often. It may be 555 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: okay to splurge on, but do you have other tips 556 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: around like what kinds of things we should splurge on, 557 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: and what kinds of things we might be able to 558 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: buy at a discount or even second hand. Yeah, so 559 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: I would say, the things that you need as far 560 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: as your staples, splurge on those. I'll use myself as 561 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: an example. I wear a lot of dinom I'm willing 562 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: to explurge on my denom. I also now wear a 563 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: lot of sweatpants, so I've started actually invest in my 564 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: sweatpants because the last thing I want to do is like, Okay, 565 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna buy them for ten dollars today in 566 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: four months, two months after a couple of washes, I 567 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: don't want to keep buying it over and over. So 568 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: think about the things that you're wearing constantly that you 569 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: don't want to keep cycling over and over again. Like, 570 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: just take the investment now. Trust me, you'll thank me 571 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: later because you're not gonna have to buy it every 572 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: two to six months or every year because you made 573 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: the investment today. I also love great quality blazers. Because 574 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: I love a good blazer, I feel like you can 575 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: dress up or down an outfit. Also, a little black dress. 576 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: Every woman should have a little black dress in her wardrobe. 577 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: So make an investment in a nice black dress. It 578 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,959 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be over a hundred dollars. Just make 579 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: sure it's a nice quality. But you can splurge on that. Also, 580 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: spurge on a great pair of shoes. A great pair 581 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: of shoes can take you a long way. Whether it's 582 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: a sneaker, whether it's a pump. Make sure you have 583 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: either a white sneaker or a black or brown pump 584 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: or ankle, stramp, sandal. And also I'll do black, nude 585 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: or metallic because I feel like metallics are so underrated 586 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: and they can really level up a simple outfit. Splurge 587 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: in your basics if you're going to be wearing T 588 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: shirts all the time, or you maybe you're wearing an 589 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: underpinning like a cany all the time, so splurge on those. 590 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: And when I say splurge, you don't necessarily have to 591 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: expend hundreds of dollars. Just make sure it's nice quality handbags. 592 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: We're all grown now, so I would say either like 593 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: a nice like black or brown handbag can take you far, 594 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: and they always make me feel grown like. It always 595 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: makes me feel like I can go close a deal 596 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: in my Gucci bag, you know. And I spurred on 597 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: my Gucci bag because I'm like, my name is Germany Gerald, 598 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: I got two g's in my names. I can I 599 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: mean Gucci dah. So this this is for me. It's 600 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: for me, and I can pass it off to my daughter. 601 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, so like, get you a nice handbag. And 602 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: I always say, you don't even have to go to 603 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: the Gucci store or the Louis store to buy handbag. 604 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: When I bought my handbag, I bought it from the real, 605 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: real or fashion file and they're usually very gently used, 606 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: so you don't even have to spend like the huge 607 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: price for you can get it at a fraction of 608 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: the cost still get that nice luxury feel. God. Yeah, 609 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: and I'm wondering Germany, if you could talk a little 610 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: bit about like how you've seen your clients lives impacted 611 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: by really developing their personal style. Can you say something 612 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: about that? Yeah, So I've grown with a lot of 613 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: my clients and so ill Felicia as an example. So 614 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: Felicia Butterfield JOm. She is now the co president of 615 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: the Grammys, and so we've taken time to really develop 616 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: a hone in her style and like, while it's still 617 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: a representation of where she is today, it's kind of 618 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: like up leveled and I say us working on her 619 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: brand through style. She was at Google and now she's 620 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: the co president of the Recording Academy like sick. And 621 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: I think even working with Bosam the st John working 622 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: with her on her style and literally I think it 623 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: helps double down on your impact because people are really 624 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: like taking you serious. And so every role that Bose 625 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: has had has been like a dynamic role. But she's 626 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: now the chief Marketing officer at Netflix, and I think 627 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot to be said about that. I've also 628 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: had clients who I've met with at the beginning of 629 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: their careers and now they're CEOs of companies or you know, 630 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: they've been able to garner like brand deals, etcetera, etcetera, 631 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: with how they look and how they've shown up, because 632 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,479 Speaker 1: when you look good, you feel good, you show up 633 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: as your best self, and people want to take you 634 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: more seriously because people are like, oh, like they look great, 635 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: so I'm willing to actually listen and hear what they 636 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: have to say. And so I've seen people either secure 637 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: brand deal, secure these new roles within their career and 638 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: just developed because of the style. And I play a 639 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: small part, Like all of my clients are very talented individuals. 640 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: And also like even Danielle Leslie, we've been working together 641 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: from the beginning when like she was not a millionaire. 642 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: Now she's a millionaire, and I've worked with her on 643 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: every single campaign that she's run, and so I just 644 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: keep seeing her go higher and higher. And like I said, 645 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: it's because people are willing to take you more seriously 646 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: because you feel confident, you look confident, and they're willing 647 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: to say, like, oh, what do they have to say, 648 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm willing to hear it. Yeah, of course. So what 649 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: are some of the black owned fashioned brands that you 650 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: are loving that we should have our eyes open for? Okay, 651 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: So when it comes to it accessories, I love Choked. 652 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: They have really great earrings, Oma the label, Like if 653 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: you're not into overt statement pieces, they have really great 654 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: basic jewelry, so very very fine, a nice necklaces and 655 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: rings and ear rings that are at a pretty affordable price. 656 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: I don't think anything is over two hundred dollars there. 657 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: TCB Accessories Atlanta they have really great statement earrings as well, 658 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: So that's the accessories department. When it comes to style 659 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: or just like clothing, bb X brand is one of 660 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: my new favorite places. They are based out of the UK, 661 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: but they have really dope sweatpants and then also like 662 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 1: blairs and dresses and they do a drop like every 663 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: two months, so literally like you have to be on it, 664 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: on it. Hanifa Hanifa's Dope Andrea I Yama the brand label. 665 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: They're based out of d C. They're really dope. So yeah, 666 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: those are a few of my faves. Yeah, that's a 667 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: great it's the story again going back to Instagram, right, Like, 668 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: I feel like that's where we're able to find like 669 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: a lot of these brands now that you wouldn't know 670 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: about otherwise exactly. I think social media has truly helped 671 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: widen our reach and knowing and providing us access to 672 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: black owned brands and just being able to find them 673 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: out because I feel like before I we didn't really 674 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: know or we didn't have that representation in stores before 675 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: social media, right right, Okay, So one more game for 676 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: you before we wrap up, right, So this is a 677 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: speed games. I'm gonna call out a couple of fashion 678 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: items and you tell me whether it's a yes or 679 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: a hot miss. Okay, alright. So the first one is crocs. Oh, 680 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna fence with this. I'm gonna say yes if 681 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: it has a little like pins on it. Okay, So 682 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: accesories is well, take it over the top, yes, alright. 683 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 1: What about corset tops, Oh my god, I love corset tops. Yes, yes, okay. 684 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: And what about color clashing? Oh I love color blocking, 685 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: so absolutely yes, but you have to do it in 686 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: the right way that feels good to you, and like 687 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: make sure you're looking at the color wheel to know 688 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: like what colors go with what, like which colors are 689 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: complimentary and which one's meshed together. And so thinking about 690 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: all of the things that you've talked about in terms 691 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,240 Speaker 1: of the staples of our wardrobe, what kinds of pieces 692 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: do you feel like our timeless gosh, timeless pieces. A 693 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: black dress is always going to be timeless, A blazer, 694 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: jeans are always timeless. Leather pants or a leather jacket, 695 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: a denim jacket, a bomber jacket. I think like third pieces. 696 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: And when I say third pieces, I mean like jackets, coats, 697 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 1: They're usually always very timeless. What else is timeless are 698 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,439 Speaker 1: those super unique pieces within your wardrobe, so even if 699 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: you don't wear them, like for a couple of years. 700 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: I would say, like shoes. I have a lot of 701 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: statement shoes that I have just on hand, and like 702 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: I might not wear them in one season. In an 703 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: other season, I'm like, oh my god, this is super dope. 704 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna wear this with this outfit is going to 705 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 1: edge it up a bit. And so I would say 706 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,720 Speaker 1: anything that's super like edgy over the top is truly 707 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: sometimes timeless. Just make sure it's still in your style identity. 708 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: So there's that on that got it. So this episode 709 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,720 Speaker 1: is a part of our January Jumpstart series. What words 710 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: of encouragement do you have for our community who's listening, 711 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: who want to revamp their wardrobe or define their personal 712 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: style in two Yeah, so words of encouragement, be patient 713 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: with yourself. Like I said earlier, it's not going to 714 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: happen overnight. Think about those things that make you feel 715 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: confident and make you want to show up as the 716 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,879 Speaker 1: best version of yourself. Adopt those things into your wardrobe, 717 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: and then also, like date yourself, think about what you're 718 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 1: really attracted to and then play for it with those things. 719 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: To be patient, think about what you're attracted to. Date 720 00:37:53,680 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: yourself and that's all I got. Yep, perfect, I appreciate this. 721 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: So where can we find you Germany? What is your 722 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: website as well as any social media handles you'd like 723 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: to share? Yeah, my website is www dot g G 724 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: and co styling dot com and then my Instagram is 725 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: Germany g E R and may in e underscore G 726 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: and I believe that is the same on Twitter as well, 727 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: but I'm usually more on I G than I am 728 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: on Twitter, and so those are the key places you 729 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: can find me and you can also find me on 730 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: LinkedIn at my full name Germany Gerald. Yeah, those are 731 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 1: the big places you can find me. And are you 732 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 1: going to be doing your class anytime soon? January is 733 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: usually awards season and then people are rethinking about their wardrobes, 734 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 1: so we're probably going to either launch it in February 735 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: or March, and so people can expect a feb or 736 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: March date. But I can have a sign up sheet 737 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: on my website, so if you are interested, you can 738 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: sign up and be the first to know when we 739 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: do release her big Well, thank you so much, Germany. 740 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you sharing with us today. Of course, 741 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: thanks for having me again, Dr Joy, You're welcome. I'm 742 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: so glad Germany was able to share her expertise with 743 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: us today. To learn more about her and her work, 744 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: visit the show notes at Therapy for Black Girls dot 745 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: com slash session to forty two and be sure to 746 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: text two of your girls this episode right now. If 747 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: you're looking for a therapist in your area, be sure 748 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: to check out our therapist directory at Therapy for Black 749 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: Girls dot com slash directory. And if you want to 750 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: continue digging into this topic or just be in community 751 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: with other sisters. Come on over and join us in 752 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: the Sister Circle. It's our cozy corner of the Internet, 753 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: designed just for black women. You can join us at 754 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: community dot therapy for black girls dot com. Thank you 755 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 1: all so much for joining me again this week. I 756 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: look forward to continuing this conversation with you all real soon. 757 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:53,479 Speaker 1: Take get care.