1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 2: I'm Matt Miller and I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: Hot Pursuit. 4 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: All right, we have a very cool episode for you today. 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: We're going to talk with Tyler f who is. He's 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: running basically the F one event, the whole thing in Miami, right. 7 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, big, He's the guy at the top. He's the 8 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: guy you want to call if you want to have 9 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: a helicopter drop you in the middle. 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: Awesome, Kim, Yeah, although I think that would be expensive, 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: not that no one will do it, but also you 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: went to a really cool event, a g Wagon event yesterday, 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: and we're both admittedly fans of at least the ic 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: version of the g Wagon. 15 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: Yes, And I have to say, though this electric version 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: is getting so much hate online. It's brutal out there. 17 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: It's corona. I have to say, the hate makes me 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: want to like it even more. 19 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: So we'll get to that great contrarian. 20 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: And we'll talk about Lamborghini, because, speaking of electrification, they're 21 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: introducing did they show it last night or did they 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: is it just leaking Beijing in Beijing? So an Urus 23 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: which Ibrid is my least favorite Lamborghini hybrid, which I 24 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: think is good. So maybe I'll like the new Ors 25 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: better than I like the old Ors. 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 3: But maybe. 27 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: And you had a Lamborghini in a drive day. 28 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: Oh and I spent four precious days driving a Lamborghini 29 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: Hurcon s Dorado. I will say it is the most 30 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: fun I've had in a car in recent memory. Like 31 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: I drove the evented door on the F one track 32 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: in Barcelona. That was awesome, but it was like almost 33 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: ten years ago, so I don't remember it. 34 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: You know, I don't remember things from a year ago. 35 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: Let's talk first about so you're you're in LA and 36 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: you go to this Mercedes event launch the G Wagon. 37 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: Just tell us about, like where it was and what 38 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: it was like, because I saw that you had Willow 39 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: with you. 40 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so Mercedes. 41 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: And Willow is your dog? Just yes. 42 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: Mercedes had a big day yesterday for press that involved 43 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: multiple round tables with all of their top people, and 44 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: then in the evening a big party to celebrate the 45 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: launch of the electric G Wagon. It's called the G 46 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: five eighty with EQ Technology, which is the most awkward 47 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: and terrible name, but that is the actual name. But 48 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: we're just going to call it the Electric G. 49 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: Well, you can also just call it the G five eighty, 50 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: and that I think makes more sense because they use 51 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: the five eighty power train already in the S class, 52 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: and in there's a GLS five eighty. 53 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: Basically the power rating is like yes, horsepower, Yeah, it's 54 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: like five seventy nine, but basically yes. So they have 55 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: an awkward name. We'll call it the G five eighty 56 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: for for our purposes. And they throw it in this 57 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: huge park off of them all Holland called Franklin Canyon Park. 58 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 2: It's technically in Beverly Hills. It's sort of wear Cold 59 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: Water Canyon and W'llholland meet and there's a big reservoir. 60 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: It's an amazing park and it's amazing. It's got amazing 61 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: trails and dog runs and everything. Yeah. I went to 62 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: the round tables during the day. I go home, I 63 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: changed clothes, I put on a warm coat and a hat, 64 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: and you know, bring the dog because it's a it's 65 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: an outdoor, big dog park and it ends up being 66 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 2: basically a Travis Scott concert. 67 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 4: What. 68 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, in the park they first of all, Bradley Cooper 69 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: was there, Trevor Noah was there, Tracy Ellis Ross Evan Ross, 70 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: like George Russell. It's like a la party and they 71 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: bring out the g wagon they built. They've built a 72 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: bridge on the reservoir. They first wanted to make it 73 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: so that the g would roll out under like two 74 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: inches of water, but I guess the logistics for that 75 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: didn't work, so they built a bridge and the g 76 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: rolls out finally after you like an hour of swirling, sham, 77 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: pain and everything. And of course Willa loved it. She's 78 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: a German dog at a German car launch, so she 79 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: loved it. But they finally bring it out and it's 80 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: like there's all this smoke on the water and Travis 81 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: Scott gets out and starts like doing a full on 82 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: Coachella style performance. I mean, they might as well have 83 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 2: just launched this thing at Coachella, because that's at this point, 84 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 2: that's the direction. 85 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: We were going and is now right? 86 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, last weekend he's standing on the card like 87 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: it's quite loud. So we actually didn't stay very long because, honestly, 88 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: for Willow's ears, I was a little concerned. She wasn't 89 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: it was past her bedtime and she wasn't in the 90 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: right frame of mind for a Travis Scott concert that is. 91 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: But it was a big bash and I think, honestly 92 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: it reminded me of in twenty eighteen when they unveiled 93 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: the new generation of the G Wagon in this huge 94 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: old theater in Detroit and they had pyrotechnics and Arnold 95 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 2: Schwarzenegger was there, and that was the single best car 96 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: line I've ever been to in my life. It was 97 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: so cool, and I think that they were like going 98 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: for that effect with this one too. I'm not sure 99 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 2: it was quite on the same level, but it was 100 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: a spectacle. It was quite something. 101 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: It's so they're they're definitely doing nothing to get away 102 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: from the kind of rapper Kardashian and like dry G classes. 103 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: In the US. 104 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: In the US, well in Germany too. I had the 105 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: G five hundred, was here's the G five fifty And 106 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: by the way, those are the same car, so it's 107 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: I don't understand why they have different monikers. But anyway 108 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: out there, everybody who drives one, you're basically either mobbed 109 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: up or like you're a rapper. 110 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 4: Right. 111 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: It's the same kind of image that I guess it 112 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: has in la which is unfortunate because it's such a 113 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: cool utilitarian vehicle, but it's so expensive that it's you know, 114 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: you've got a mortgage your house and sell a kidney 115 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: to afford one. 116 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: You know what I always used to say, and this 117 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: is just a side but even you know, for years 118 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 2: I would say, I love Porsche. It's too bad about 119 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: the people who own Porschas, and it's not fair that 120 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: this amazing machine has been co opted by like people 121 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 2: you don't want to hang out with, because it's a 122 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: really cool car and you shouldn't judge the car based 123 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: on the people who buy it. And I think this 124 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 2: might also apply for the G as well, because it's 125 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,559 Speaker 2: a total killer machine and yet it has a certain 126 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: reputation in certain enclaves. But that's not going to stop 127 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 2: me from recognizing that it's amazing. 128 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: Well, I will say, first of all, people like Magnets 129 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: have changed that for Porscha, and there hasn't been anyone 130 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: like that to change it for the G class. 131 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: You know. 132 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it'll be really interesting to see, so 133 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: see how the electric G does. 134 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get by the way, let's get to the specs, 135 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: because I think it's there's been so much hate, as 136 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: you pointed out, but when I look through the specs, 137 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 1: it looks really cool. There's a different motor for every wheel. 138 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: There's four ediffs, so there's only three locking diffs on 139 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: the gas g Wagon. So and it can like spin 140 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:05,799 Speaker 1: around on a dime. 141 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: Yes, it is actually more capable off road than the 142 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: conventional engine G Wagon. I drove it last year. I 143 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: will lay down that bragging right. I've already I drove 144 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: the pre production prototype. I drove it in Austria. It 145 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: is wildly capable. There's nothing to laugh about this is 146 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: this is a very extremely capable machine. The question really 147 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,119 Speaker 2: is whether people want it. I mean it doesn't. First 148 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: of all, the vast majority of people who buy a 149 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: G wagon are not going to be taking it off 150 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: road anyway. So the fact that it's slightly more capable 151 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: than the combustion engine G wagon is a nice bragging right, 152 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: But practically speaking, I'm not convinced that a lot of 153 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: G Wagon owners will care about that. The big question 154 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: for me with Mercedes is how flexible are you guys 155 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: going to be if six months from now you realize 156 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: nobody wants this thing? Right, We've seen the electric hummer 157 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: and the electric F one fifty make big splashes when 158 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: they debut, and then they sort of quietly fade to 159 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: black because nobody's buying them. I'm not convinced that in 160 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: a year from now we may sort of see the 161 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: electric g fade. This is maybe a prediction. I don't know. 162 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: I think it fords more water than the gas g wagon. 163 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it's very capable. 164 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating. But obviously you make a great 165 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 1: point that people who buy them typically aren't taking them 166 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: off road because they're so expensive you don't want to 167 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: dent it. 168 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: Rather no, and you know, Mercedes is saying, well, this 169 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: is a great application for hunters because it's very quiet 170 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: and you can take it out take the G wagon hunting, 171 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: which I understand in Germany and Germany and Austria there 172 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 2: may be a lot of G wagon owners who are 173 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 2: taking their g hunting, But I you know, Beverly Hills 174 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: specifically is the biggest gew wagon market in the biggest 175 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: G wagon state, in the biggest G wagon country in 176 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: the world, and I'm I don't hear a lot of 177 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: G wagon owners saying they're taking it hunting. 178 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: Well, I guess yeah, it's going to be soccer moms 179 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: and soccer dads who are extremely wealthy, and this way 180 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: they can signal two things to their neighbors. A. I 181 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: have a lot of money, and B I care about 182 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: the environment because I bought an EV So yeah. 183 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: It's and let's say the starting price is around one 184 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty two thousand. I think you know there 185 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: are AMG version, Night package versions, exclusive manufacturer versions that 186 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,119 Speaker 2: will be even more costly. So this is an expensive 187 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: machine already. If you take out the my box in 188 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 2: the Mercedes lineup, the G Wagon is their most expensive 189 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: offering already. There's a lot of profit that Mercedes make 190 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: us off of this vehicle. They say that they expect 191 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: that they will be making profit also off the electric version, 192 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: but they also ever executive I spoke with yesterday was 193 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 2: very careful to say, we're listening to our customers. We're 194 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: maintaining flexibility. The g is made on the same line 195 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: and the same factory as the electric one and the 196 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: conventionally powered one. They're all on the same line, so 197 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: they can sort of easily move it on or off 198 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: the line as needed. And I think that's by signed. 199 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty two grand to start isn't as 200 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: shocking as it would have been pre pandemic, considering the 201 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: insane amount of car price inflation we've seen. The base Carrera, 202 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: which doesn't even come with a limited slip differential, is 203 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen grand before you add Obviously you 204 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: have to add options. That's the way Porsche works, so 205 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: you don't get to build a base that's drivable until 206 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: it's like one forty. The Kara Tea, which is supposed 207 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: to be the affordable version, is one twenty five before 208 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: you've added anything. 209 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: So that's a lot of money. 210 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: It's I mean, so one fifty two doesn't sound quite 211 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: as bad as it once would have. By the way, 212 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: I drove a car that offends everybody in the neighborhood 213 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: and costs way more to start, the Lamborghini Hurrican Sterrato 214 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: I had for the last week. You've driven this, I'm 215 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: pretty sure I read your piece on it like a 216 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: year or two ago. Yes, it's like supposed to be 217 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: the off road version of the Hurrican which is really 218 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: their most track focused vehicle, so it's like the off 219 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: road version of their race car. 220 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 2: I don't think I would agree with the fact that 221 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 2: the Hurricanus is the most track focused. I think that 222 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: could be maybe the event to door I would argue, 223 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: I would say the Hurrican is actually the one that 224 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 2: you drive when you want to stay in town. 225 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I've spent a lot of time 226 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: at numerous driving schools in both, and the eventa Door 227 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: is very big with clunky agricultural transmission like a tractor. 228 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 1: To hustle that thing around the track is a lot 229 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: more difficult than the Hurrican. I think the Sto is 230 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: probably the one that they would tell you Hurrican STO 231 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: if you're going to go to the track, But they're 232 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: both amazing. This car I think was the most fun, 233 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: the most exhilarating driving experience I have ever had in 234 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: my life. 235 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: How can you say that with a car that has 236 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: cladding on it? 237 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why. And by the way I 238 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: first brought it to my driveway, it was it's bright yellow, 239 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: which I don't know who buys a yellow car to 240 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: begin with, But plus it's got this plastic cladding drilled 241 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: onto it that looks like, you know, somebody picked it 242 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: up at the AutoZone and bolted on, you know, the 243 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: driving lights himself. And then it's got a tire rack 244 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: on top, which kind of looks cool, but when you're driving, 245 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: it makes a lot of noise, and it's like. 246 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: It might look better with a different color than yellow. 247 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: Definitely would look better than a different cars than yellow. 248 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, like my first text message to 249 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: you from driving into Pickleball was I would rather have 250 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: a regular Hurrican. I don't know why they did this, 251 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: but the sentence. 252 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: Driving the Lamborghini to Pickleball. 253 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: Alone is problematic, very fast. But I will tell you, 254 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: after a few days with it, I realized the benefit 255 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: of the off road Lambeau. And it's not really for 256 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: off road. In fact, the loan agreement said I was 257 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: not allowed to take it off road. 258 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: Did you actually read the agreement or they physical. 259 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: That was highlighted That part was highlighted in yellow. 260 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: Oh. 261 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: The point of the it's got an extra one point 262 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 1: seven inches of travel and it's got beefier suspension. And 263 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: what it does is it makes the car really usable 264 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: in the Northeast, where you know, our roads are infrastructure 265 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: over this country are decaying, and this is the kind 266 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: of like post apocalyptic supercar that you need. Because I 267 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: was not worried about potholes. I was like aiming for them. 268 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: I took it to the oldest unpaved road in America. 269 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: How is that? 270 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: It was awesome. It's this like Revolutionary War era road 271 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: in Phillipstown. It's like seven miles long, and you might 272 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: as well be off road frankly, but it is a 273 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: legal road, so I felt like I was sticking to 274 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: the letter of the law. 275 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: Now was it dirt? It's dirt or it's gravel or 276 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: what's the. 277 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: Actually it depends which stretch you're on. It's dirt and gravel, okay, 278 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: And it was really cool. I recommend that everybody who's 279 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: around here take a chance to visit. It's called the 280 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: Old Albany Post Road up in Phillipstown, New York. Anyway, 281 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: I realized that this car is like normally when you're 282 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: in a supercar, right, you're in a more than I am. 283 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: You're kind of worried about am I going to break this? 284 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: The suspension is very taut, and this was not that. 285 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: I was very happily throwing it through this gravel road. 286 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: And then when I was driving it on the highway, 287 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: as I say, not worried about the potholes. The cool 288 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: thing about the off road tires is they lose traction 289 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: more quickly than typical road tires, So you could throw 290 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: it around corners and kick out the back end. You 291 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: can put it in a special rally mode setting which 292 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: makes the rear end a little bit more slippery, and 293 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: it's just an amazing experience to have five point two 294 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: leaders of V ten behind you. It's so loud and raucous, 295 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: it's so brutal. It's exactly what a Lamborghini should be 296 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: in my opinion. 297 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it because you have the Lamborghini performance, 298 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: but you get to drive it like you drive something 299 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 2: that was a lot less expensive and a lot just rough. 300 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 301 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: So it's like it is a really fun combination. If 302 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: I got one, I would not have the rack on it, 303 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: and I get one in like a green, like a 304 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: dark green or a gray or something army green is 305 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: what you want completely, yeah, and I would just really 306 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: then you could actually say that it's a daily driver 307 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: because you could drive that in the city. 308 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: I was thinking, so I was thinking, this is the 309 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: perfect daily driver. Yeah, and I even did drive it 310 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: into the city for a lunch here. Now the problems 311 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: start to arise when you try and deal with the connectivity. Well, 312 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: first of all, I should say the rear view mirror, 313 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: because you cannot see out the back since they raised 314 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: the air scoop like a snorkel and it covers completely 315 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: the back window. Now, when other car companies put out 316 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: a vehicle where the rear window is closed, like Chevy 317 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: does with their trucks, for example, they install a rear 318 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: view camera in the mirror. Right, Lamborghini said, we won't 319 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: bother right, We're only going to charge three hundred thousand, 320 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: so why would we spend the money to put a 321 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: rearview camera in the mirror. The other thing is the connectivity. 322 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: It took me like maybe fifteen minutes to finally hook 323 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: my phone up. Not that it matters, right, but if 324 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: you're daily driving it, it kind of does. Because on 325 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: the way back from lunch in the city, I was 326 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: stuck in bumper to bumper traffic and I thought, all right, 327 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: let me listen to this dead show that I have 328 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: on my phone. It took me forever to figure out 329 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: how to hook it up. When I finally did, the 330 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: Bluetooth crapped out. Because I don't if they know that 331 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: everyone is going to buy this vehicle no matter how 332 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: much it costs. Then they maybe aren't bothering to put 333 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: in the effort in terms of quality control on the 334 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: tech side. But wouldn't that be sign wouldn't it be 335 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: easy for them since they're owned by Audi? 336 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, bottom line, I don't care what the 337 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 2: actual vehicle is. If you are charging that much money 338 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: for it, it has to be really good all throughout 339 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 2: the fit and finish, the infotainment, the software, it all 340 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 2: has to be good. And this is the problem I've 341 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: had with McLaren too, where it's like you can't just say, oh, 342 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 2: it's sort of a track car, and well, we don't 343 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 2: really that's not our thing. You know, you just give 344 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 2: them stuff that isn't is kind of crappy. 345 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree that. I would say it's unacceptable for 346 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: a three hundred thousand dollars car, which you're not going 347 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: to get for less than four because after you add 348 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: options and the dealers charge the eight m and you 349 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: know there are those are already sold out because they're 350 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: limited to fifteen hundred models. But the problem is people 351 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: are going to buy it anyway because it's such an 352 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: exhilarating and really like life changing experience. 353 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is really fun. 354 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: All right, Let's ask our listeners, which would you rather 355 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: have the Lamborghini uricon Strado the off road Lambeau or 356 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: the Portia nine to eleven de Car the off road 357 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: nine to eleven. They can email us with their answer at. 358 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 2: Email at hot Pursuit at Bloomberg dot net. That's hot 359 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 2: Pursuit at Bloomberg dot net. Let us know. Now, I'm 360 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: very curious to know what you think about this hybrid Urus, 361 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: because I know you love hybrids. But I also know 362 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: that Rus is not necessarily your favorite Lamborghini. 363 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: So Lamborghini should be overkilled, it should be brutal, you know, 364 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: at least have you driven the cylinders. I've driven the 365 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: Ours a number of times. I drove it in Modena 366 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: when I was there for the Motor Valley Week, which 367 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: I also highly recommend. 368 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 3: What an awesome experience that is. 369 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: And I drove it here in New York as well, 370 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: and it's great. Right, I'd rather have an Urus. 371 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: It's so good, the best suv out there. Yeah, I 372 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 2: think it's the actual best suv out there right. 373 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: Now, you maybe, I mean, I feel like the Cayenne 374 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: is also very good, but. 375 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: It's very good. But it's not a Lamborghini. 376 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: Right, Well, I don't think the ors is a Lamborghini. Well, 377 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: where's that order from. It's an Audi group motor. It's 378 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: not the kind of motor that makes people angry with you. 379 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: You know, I'll give you that. It's not. It's not 380 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 2: a Hurricon or an evented door. But I will stick 381 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 2: to my gun saying that in terms of driving performance 382 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 2: and thrill, it's the best Lamberge. It's the best suv 383 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: on the market right now. If you want an suv, 384 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 2: it's the best of the bunch. 385 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: You're probably right. It looks cool, it's so good, it's 386 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: super functional. The tech in it, unlike the Oricon. The 387 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: tech works. 388 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it hauls too. It's so fast. And I'm not 389 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 2: like you. I don't get hung up on who makes 390 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 2: an engine. Well, it's a good engine. It's a good engine, true. 391 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: But the thing is the Oorus. I can drive my 392 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: parents in it to the airport and it'll be fun 393 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: for them, but not shocking. Right with the Ordicon and 394 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: the eventa door, I'm getting goosebumps some times, tearing up 395 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: like it is an incredibly visceral experience that has the. 396 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 2: Are the tears of joy or. 397 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 4: Yes, fear? 398 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just that I feel like I've gone 399 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: through a transformation. It's just like changed my mental state. 400 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: And that doesn't happen with what's the engine in the orus? 401 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: Like a four liter VA with twin turbochargers. 402 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 2: Come on, does the same thing happen for you in 403 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: a Ferrari? Don't get emotional in a Ferrari. 404 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: You know, I haven't really driven many Ferraris. I've only 405 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: driven the FF, which I loved, and yeah, it made 406 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: me pretty emotional, But I don't remember this kind of feeling. 407 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 2: I mean to hear about tears. 408 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: And the La Ferrari I drove like around a parking lot. 409 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: But I haven't spent much time in Ferrari, so I 410 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: don't feel qualified to say but I don't. I don't 411 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: know if they would evoke the same kind of like 412 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: hair raising experience that the Lamborghini that the brutal Lambo 413 00:20:58,840 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: motors do. 414 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 2: I understand, I understand, I mean back to the hybrid. 415 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 2: I think the real interesting thing talking about engines and 416 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: combustion is that Lamborghini has been really unapologetic about saying 417 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: we don't actually want to go electric. We'll give you 418 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: a hybrid, but we're gonna basically stall as long as 419 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: we can toward going fully electric. I asked them yesterday, 420 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: are you still making that all electric Lanzidor, and they said, yes, 421 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 2: you know, they're still on board with that. But I 422 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 2: just think bottom line is Lamborghini it's the exact opposite 423 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 2: of Mercedes, which is going all in all electric. They're 424 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 2: going to electrify everything, even their jewel, the g Wagon, 425 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,719 Speaker 2: and Lamborghini's like, no way, We're holding on to our 426 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 2: engines as long as possible. We'll give you a hybrid. 427 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 2: But and they're doing they're doing. They're saying, we're doing great, 428 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 2: we don't need an electric vehicle. 429 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I appreciate that, but it's like Sergio MARCIONI 430 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: used to say, there is no way in hell that 431 00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: Ferrari is ever going to. 432 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 3: Make an su you know, yeh. 433 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: I used to say that, and they eventually did, of course. 434 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: And I think Lamborghini could go the same way. We'll 435 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: have the benefit of asking the CEO of Lamborghini. 436 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 2: Oh, yes, on our next good one. 437 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 3: So Stephen Winklman joins us. 438 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: But let me ask you finally, one more question on 439 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: the Stererrado do you think And this is the question 440 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: I got asked the most by people looking at this car, 441 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: and by the way, everybody looked at everybody's taking pictures 442 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: of it, people asking me questions, But the main question 443 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: I got from people who know things about cars was 444 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: would you rather have this than the decr the nine 445 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: to eleven de car. 446 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good question. Yeah, I would just to 447 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 2: be contrarian. It's it's less expected. As a woman, I want. 448 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 2: I want the thing that's like more of a punch 449 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 2: in the face. 450 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: Totally agree to me. It's so silly to compare a 451 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: three liter flat six with turbo chargers to a naturally 452 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: aspirated five point two liters V ten. 453 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 3: I mean, it is definitely U. 454 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 2: It's a wilder beast. It's on every angle. It's a 455 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 2: wilder East. It's more bossy, it's more everything, and I 456 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 2: want all of it. 457 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I will never forget the first the first time 458 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: I went to Formula one in Austin, I was on 459 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: a press junket and so I got to be with 460 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: the Red Bull team and Christian Horner said, I wish 461 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: we were back. We would go back to the V 462 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: tens because that is the kind of engine that he 463 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: would prefer to race with. And speaking of that, we 464 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: should get to our guest, Tyler. Thank you so much 465 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: for coming. Great to have you here, and we're looking 466 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: very much forward to the race. I've been cramming watching 467 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: every season of Drive to Survive and I'm almost at 468 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: the end of six, so I still haven't started with 469 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: this season in Handah, you've been following along, so why 470 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: don't you. 471 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 3: Kick it off? 472 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 2: Well, I have to say I met Tyler a few 473 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 2: months ago in Miami during Mode of Miami, a car 474 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: show that's there, and I was really excited to talk 475 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 2: to him because Tyler, I know you come from a 476 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 2: sports background, but then before that also a car background, 477 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: and it was so great to talk with someone who 478 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 2: I think has a really good sense of specifically what 479 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 2: Americans want out of their car racing slash sporting events. 480 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: And I kind of just to kick it off, would 481 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 2: love to hear about how are you doing two weeks 482 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: before the race. You don't seem stressed, but tell me 483 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 2: a little bit about what's going on right now in 484 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: your in your life. 485 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, thank you for the time. 486 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 5: Great to be with you both. I'm not stressed. I'm excited. 487 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 5: We've got a great team of people here, and as 488 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 5: strange as it sounds, I think we've learned a lot 489 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 5: in the first two years. And so you know, I 490 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 5: was I was laughing with a friend of mine the 491 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 5: other day. Going into year one, we didn't we didn't know, 492 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 5: we didn't know what to expect, we didn't know what 493 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 5: we were to be scared of, and so we were 494 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 5: just kind of going into it. And last year we 495 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 5: knew a little better, so it was a little more nervous, 496 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 5: and we had some things to fix, and I would 497 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 5: tell you we've One of the things I love about 498 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 5: this team here is that when something doesn't go right, 499 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 5: we're not scared or to attack it right. And if 500 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 5: it's something on track or it's something off track, we 501 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 5: make it front and center and we attack it with 502 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 5: everything we have. 503 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 4: And we believe in our people and believe in our resources. 504 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 4: And so when you have a. 505 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 5: Team like that and you have a culture like that, 506 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 5: there's nothing to be nervous about. We're more just excited 507 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 5: to put on a great show for the entire f 508 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 5: WIN community and showcase, showcase what Miami has to offer, 509 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 5: So we're excited. 510 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 4: It's busy, it's crazy. 511 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 5: I mean, look, we build up this entire campus and 512 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 5: it goes all down and you know, you're talking you know, 513 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 5: three hundred plus tens and you know, tens of thousands 514 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 5: of miles of cable, and it truly is amazing to 515 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 5: see it all come together. But it's it's much more 516 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 5: exciting than is nerve wracking. 517 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: Hannah, are you approaching this like a sporting event or 518 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,239 Speaker 2: like a show? You use that word sh Yeah, it's 519 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 2: a great question. Interesting. 520 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 5: I think you know, my background is all sporting personally, 521 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 5: so I always think of it, I think like a 522 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 5: sporting event. But I will tell you that the way 523 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 5: that we try to attack our business from a customer 524 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 5: centric point of view, it's much more like a show. 525 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 5: It's much more like an artist. I think we do 526 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 5: believe in the creat activity of what you know. Tom 527 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 5: Garfinkl and Stephen Ross have led us from the very 528 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 5: beginning on. They pushed us to be creative and to 529 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 5: create a feeling and create a thing. We want our 530 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 5: fans that when they come here, we want them to 531 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 5: feel like they are in Miami, that that it should 532 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 5: be an authentic experience. It should be that one of 533 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 5: one experience where they feel like it was curated and 534 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 5: cultivated specifically for them. So, yeah, it's a good question. 535 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 5: I've ever thought of it necessarily that way about show 536 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 5: versus sporting. It's in our world, it's all meshed together. 537 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, very Miami maybe. 538 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 539 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,719 Speaker 5: And everything we do here between you know, super Bowls 540 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 5: and World Cups and Dolphins football and stadium shows and festivals, 541 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 5: it's everything from our sports entertainment lens is really intermingled. 542 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 4: Anyway. 543 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: You've got to create the show right because the sport, 544 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: the sporting event's going to happen whether you do a 545 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: good job or not. Tyler, Right, there's going to be 546 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: a winner and a loser regardless. But when spectators come 547 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: and pay big bucks to watch, they want to have 548 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: the whole experience be there for them. Tell us some 549 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: of the superlatives you mentioned three hundred tents, what else, 550 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: like how many people do you have working for you? 551 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: How much do you put into this, how much does 552 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: this event make? 553 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's great, great question, Matt. 554 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 5: So look, I think the best way to think about 555 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 5: it is we'll do We'll have over ten thousand people 556 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 5: on staff on race weekend. We have less than one 557 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty dedicated to the race annually, so our 558 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 5: staff grows massively leading into the race. Now we also 559 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 5: get support from kind of our sister businesses here with 560 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 5: the dolphins and everything, and that internal staff balloons to 561 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 5: around five hundred. You know, we just walked out of 562 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 5: a staff our final staff meeting this morning, and it's 563 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 5: about five hundred people. But our event staff and the 564 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 5: people who really make this business go. They're the ones 565 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 5: who are getting people into the entries and making sure 566 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 5: they find the right food and beverage, and making sure 567 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 5: they don't trip on that step right there and all 568 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 5: those pieces. I mean, that's a ten thousand person staff, 569 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 5: and I would tell you it's one of the benefits, Matt, 570 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 5: is that you know, those are almost all local people. 571 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 5: You know, we've driven almost a billion dollars into this 572 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 5: community over the last two years, and we are continuing 573 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 5: to surge forward, right, So it's not only bringing tourists 574 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 5: in and driving you know, tourism dollars, it's also creating 575 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 5: experiences and growth for the people who live here at 576 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 5: opportunity for them to earn wages. 577 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 4: One of the things we're really. 578 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 5: Proud about just from a community perspective, is you know, 579 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 5: we've got a dozen community based food trucks brought on 580 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 5: site to create really unique experiences for our fan base 581 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 5: that are locally based, right, So these are food trucks 582 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 5: that operate right here in Miami Gardens and we have 583 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 5: the opportunity to showcase them. So yeah, Look, it's thousands 584 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 5: and thousands of man hours leading into the race. There's 585 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 5: a lot of late nights, a lot of early mornings. 586 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 5: As much as we try to get ahead, I would 587 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 5: tell you the last couple of weeks are always a thrash. 588 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 5: You know, it's just no matter how far we try 589 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 5: and how let's get ahead of this one and get 590 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 5: this up, and it feels like the last ten days 591 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 5: are always just a unique time. 592 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: Tyler. Something we talked about in Miami the last time 593 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: we spoke is this idea that Formula one is extremely 594 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: elitist and very exclusive. And I don't think that's an 595 00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 2: unfair reputation really, But you spoke about to draw. Yeah, 596 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 2: that's that's part of the draw. Once you're in, you 597 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 2: feel like you're inside. But you spoke about wanting Miami 598 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 2: to be a race that really feels inclusive for families 599 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: or people who may not be bawling out on like 600 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: a hotel suite. Can you talk a little bit about that. 601 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 2: I mean, is that actually a realistic thing for you guys, 602 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 2: and how are you approaching it? 603 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 5: I mean, we've seen that to be true, Hannah. I mean, 604 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 5: I can't tell you what the other Grand Prixs do. 605 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 5: And I think Matt's right in the sense that it 606 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 5: is part of the brand of F one. I mean, 607 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 5: I think Bernie Ecklestone and his team, dating back now 608 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 5: into the seventies, you know, really created this incredible kind 609 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 5: of environment. And look, I think you know, Greg mcfay 610 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 5: and Stefano Demnocology are still cultivating that. However, I do 611 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 5: think as we push into new markets, we have the opportunity. 612 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 5: I've got neighbors who love coming to the race, and 613 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 5: they buy campus passes and they come out and they 614 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 5: spend one hundred and fifty dollars a day, And we 615 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 5: push a ton of value into those amenities, and we 616 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 5: put risers in and we have shade structures and we 617 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 5: have water stations, try to make it comfortable for them. 618 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 5: We open up our three hundred level of our stadium 619 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 5: with a view into the actual paddock. 620 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 4: There are things that we do. 621 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 5: Or we're trying to do that really offer what we 622 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 5: would consider to be a more general fan the opportunity 623 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 5: to come and experience what F one has to offer 624 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 5: as a sport and entertainment property. 625 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,239 Speaker 4: I mean, look, we think about it. 626 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 5: As you know, there's ninety nine percent of the F 627 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 5: one fans may not ever come to see us, right, 628 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 5: so we have to showcase that on TV. But for 629 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 5: that group that does come and we have the opportunity 630 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 5: to host, gosh, we want to nail that experience for 631 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,239 Speaker 5: them in a really unique way. And I think that 632 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 5: goes everybody from the billionaire kind of eleak group that 633 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 5: has kind of come to be commonplace with F one, 634 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 5: but it's all the way down to you know, the 635 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 5: people that live down the street from me who bring 636 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 5: their kids because they love cars and they really enjoyed 637 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 5: getting to know fun through Drive Us Survive. 638 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: I mean, the first time I went to F one 639 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: in Austin at CODA, I had never thought about Austin before, 640 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: but because of that experience, I started going back to 641 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: Austin again in the game, even when it wasn't for it. Well, 642 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: I mean I had heard of Austin, but it was not, 643 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: you know, on my radar. Obviously Miami is going to 644 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: be on everybody's radar. But it must be the same way, 645 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: right If somebody comes down to Miami for the first 646 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: time to see F one and they have an amazing time, 647 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: they're going to keep coming back to Miami for other 648 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: events not racing related totally. 649 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 5: And I think that's I mean, we felt the support 650 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 5: of the community these past couple of years. I mean 651 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 5: not only just Miami Gardens, but our friends in Miami, 652 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 5: our friends of Fort Lauderdale, and you get to Hollywood 653 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 5: up to West Palm like this is a dynamic part 654 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 5: of the world, and part of our job is to 655 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 5: bring people in. It's interesting because we do see a 656 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,959 Speaker 5: significant especially Latin population coming in, you know, especially from 657 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 5: Latin America, from Mexico. We do see some European and 658 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 5: it's very heavy domestic too, you know, we draw from everywhere. 659 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 5: We talked to our friends in Vegas about this all 660 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 5: the time. That they draw from the East coast, we 661 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 5: draw from the West coast. It's not necessarily geographical. It's 662 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 5: much more about what markets a certain person wants to 663 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 5: go visit. But obviously the I ninety five corridor is 664 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 5: healthy for us, right like the New York draw. There's 665 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 5: a lot of New Yorkers down here, so it's a 666 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 5: comfortable place, and it's become such a mass some brand 667 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 5: the city itself where we benefit from that. 668 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 2: You mentioned Las Vegas. Is there a bit of a 669 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 2: healthy competition between Vegas and Miami Grand Prixs? 670 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 4: I can ask this all the time. 671 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 5: I don't feel that way. I mean I talked to it. 672 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 5: I probably don't talk to a promoter more that maybe Mexico. 673 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 5: But other than Mexico, I probably don't talk to a 674 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 5: promoter more than we talked to the people in Vegas. 675 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 4: You knowwm IS does such a good job. 676 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 5: You know, Greg mfayt obviously leads out from liberty media perspective, 677 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 5: and look we've got we're very friendly with Austin as well. 678 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 5: They were very good to us early on. They taught us, 679 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 5: you know, things we never would have known about getting 680 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 5: into year one, and I do think there's some good 681 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 5: camaraderie between the three of us. We all create totally 682 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 5: different experiences. They're very, very different and unique, each in 683 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 5: their own right. 684 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: How is Miami different from Vegas? 685 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 5: Would you say, I just think we're about Miami. I mean, 686 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 5: I think we're about the art, and we're about the culture. 687 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 5: We're about the food, or about the experience. We're about 688 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 5: palm trees and really curated experience for the different product. 689 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 5: I think there are certainly pieces of that, and I 690 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 5: think we get branded together around our of our high 691 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 5: end hospitality, and I think Vegas had a wonderful job 692 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 5: of many things, including that last year. I think we 693 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 5: can benefit from that because they're all, you know, all 694 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 5: boats benefit of the rising tide, and. 695 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 4: That's how we look at it. 696 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 5: But I do think we have really you know, and 697 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 5: again Thomas Steve set this forth from the very beginning 698 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 5: that we want to be about Miami and we want 699 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 5: to represent everything that's a great this great city and 700 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 5: community has to all. 701 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about the sport. You must 702 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: be a fan, because so this is a podcast without 703 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: a video component, and that means our listeners don't see 704 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: the helmets behind you. You've got Nicki Lauda, you've got 705 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: James Hunt, you've got Senna. I don't see Shoomy, but 706 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: he's probably out of the picture. You've got the greatest 707 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: drivers in F one. Ever, how do you feel about 708 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: F one? Where's your heart when it comes to the competition. 709 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like as I told Hannah, you know when we 710 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 5: were together in Miami, you know, I kind of my 711 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 5: first ten years of my professional career. 712 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 4: We're all cars in all motorsport. 713 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 5: And so that's kind of where I cut my teeth 714 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 5: in this business's and it's still like a deep passion 715 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 5: for me. So I believe in great racing. I believe 716 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 5: in the quality of the teams and the drivers, and 717 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 5: it's certainly something I tune into across all series on 718 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 5: a regular basis. Look, I think what we have to 719 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 5: think about we are truly seeing, you know, what's a 720 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 5: very special situation with you know, what red Bull's doing 721 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 5: and what obviously Max is doing. Is it necessarily the 722 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 5: most competitive environment we've ever seen. I think it's hard 723 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 5: to argue that. I tend to as more of a 724 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 5: purest really appreciate what's being done. I think it's the 725 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 5: best car with the best driver, and it's on a unique. 726 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:35,919 Speaker 4: Situation right now. 727 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 5: So we are great partners of F one, and we're 728 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 5: all for the growing business and I think there are 729 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 5: things that we'll work together with all the rest of 730 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 5: the promoters and Formula One in general to continue to 731 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 5: keep it interesting. We have a great appreciation for what's 732 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 5: happening on the track. 733 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: Rundes, It does it hurt the business if Mac keeps 734 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: winning every race? 735 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 4: I don't know that. I can't predict that. 736 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 5: I can tell you that our business is really healthy, 737 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 5: and I think that I look at I see the 738 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 5: business somewhat through my nine year old son's eyes, who 739 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 5: only wear Flatville hats, and he's a Red Bull fan 740 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 5: because of that, right, and so that's his angle. I 741 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 5: see it through his eyes, and I haven't seen his 742 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,720 Speaker 5: interest Wayanne. Now, look, I think the casual fan is 743 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 5: it is it harder for them to stay tuned in 744 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 5: when you have a dominant situation on track. I think 745 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 5: that's a fair criticism and we've got to continue as 746 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 5: an industry to keep working at that. But that shouldn't 747 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 5: have anything to do with like disparaging the tremendous accomplishments 748 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 5: that Max and the rest of the Red Bull Racing. 749 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: True, Hannah, what do you think about it? Because I 750 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: mean Max is awesome and the Red Bull team has 751 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: been so sweet to Fallow over the past ten years. Yeah, 752 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: you can't begrudge them the success, right. 753 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 2: No, I'm looking forward to when Lewis Hamilton goes to Ferrari. 754 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 2: I think that'll be a really interesting thing. I mean, 755 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 2: I love a shakeup, and you know, people love a winner, 756 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 2: but people also love rooting for underdogs, and personally, I 757 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,919 Speaker 2: would be excited if Lewis finally got that last championship. 758 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 2: You know, I'm rooting for him. I also saw George 759 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 2: Russell last night at Mercedes g Wagon launched, so I 760 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 2: would like to see some other people on the top 761 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 2: of the podium for sure. I think that's healthy. It's 762 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 2: good for the business. I want to see a fight, 763 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 2: and yes, Verstappen is a very talented driver, but like 764 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 2: I would love to see I think it's healthy to 765 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 2: get some other people in there for sure, and a fight. 766 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 4: At the front. 767 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, yeah, that's an important note, right because 768 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 5: I think, yes, the midfield battle right now is outstanding, 769 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 5: you know, and if if you're a fan of the 770 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 5: sport and you see the competition that's occurring between McLaren 771 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 5: and Mercedes and Ferrari. 772 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 2: And even Martin, I'm serious yeah. 773 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,479 Speaker 5: So I think the midfield competition is fantastic. I saw 774 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 5: my life sent me a mean the other day. Then 775 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 5: it was somebody showing like the running order and somebody 776 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 5: going over and just putting a black piece of tape. 777 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 4: Over Max like and starting to clap right, because. 778 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 5: When you look at you know, second through seventh, it's 779 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 5: actually fantastic. It's fantastic competition. 780 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 2: It's really interesting because I remember talking to Sergio Perez 781 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 2: at the first Austin Grand Prix like ten, ten years ago, 782 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 2: eleven years ago, twelve years ago, and he was not 783 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 2: I mean, people from Mexico knew him, but he was 784 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 2: not as well known as he is today. And so 785 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 2: it's just been really fun to see people advance from 786 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 2: way deep into the pack to the front. 787 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 1: By the way, I think that's what Drive to Survive 788 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: has done so well, because I have been watching Moto 789 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: GP religiously for over a decade, and I feel like 790 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: I know everything about the sport, but I never know 791 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: who's in the midfield battles because I'm watching the podium 792 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: or the top five or six. And even though I'm 793 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: watching every I'm watching free practice qualifying in the races. 794 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: The cool thing about Drive to Survive is you get 795 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: a break from the top and they focus in on 796 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: the midfield and that makes it just a much more 797 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: holistic experience. How much has that helped Tyler you think 798 00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 1: your business Drive to Serve? 799 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hard to put a number on it, right, 800 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,879 Speaker 5: but I don't think you can argue the impact right, 801 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 5: tremendous impact the storytelling and taking what's actually happening inside 802 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 5: the paddock and storytelling about it and actually putting guys 803 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 5: in situations, and you know, and talking with some of 804 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 5: the team principles now hearing them talk about their reluctance 805 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 5: at the beginning and now how comfortable they are with it. 806 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 5: Like listening to Zach talk about it, it's fantastic, like 807 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 5: it is. It has changed, like his entire brand personally. 808 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 5: We spent a bunch of time with going through over 809 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 5: the past month, and you know, we've hired him to 810 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 5: help us and kind of make sure he's so authentic, 811 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 5: he's so real and and he comes at it not 812 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 5: from I've won all these championships. He comes at it 813 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 5: from like I am grinding, my sleeves are rolled up, 814 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 5: let me tell you about this business. And I think 815 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 5: it's it's so it's back to the question about the 816 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 5: elitist like it's for everybody. 817 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 4: There is a place for everybody in the sport. 818 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 2: Where do you see the biggest growth potential for for 819 00:38:58,719 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 2: your business? 820 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 4: So I think I'd answer it two ways. 821 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 5: First and foremost, continuing to lean into this young F 822 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 5: one fan base. And that doesn't mean that there aren't 823 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 5: long term F one fans here. 824 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 4: There are. There are fans have been watching F one 825 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 4: for decades. 826 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 5: But I do think when we think about the drive 827 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 5: to survive and the social media pieces, I think that 828 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 5: fan base tends to be a bit younger or at least. 829 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 4: Newer to the sport. 830 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 5: That's probably our number one opportunity is to make our 831 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 5: event sticky with the growth of F one. Right, Let's 832 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 5: make Miami something special for that group of people. 833 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 2: What they want to do every year. 834 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, they want to put it on their bucket list 835 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,240 Speaker 5: and say, we love F one, we love Miami. 836 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 4: We are doing this every year. 837 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 5: We're circling the date as soon as the schedule comes out, 838 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,439 Speaker 5: and we're going to go down and get our friends 839 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 5: together and do this thing. 840 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: Right. 841 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,800 Speaker 5: So, I think that's the first opportunity the second opportunity 842 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 5: is a lot more what we talked about when we 843 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 5: were at Motor Together, which is there is a wonderful 844 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 5: like auto car culture down here in South Florida, but 845 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 5: it's a bit bifurcated. There's not really a place where 846 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 5: everybody comes to together. And I think we have the 847 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,320 Speaker 5: opportunity over the next couple of years as a circuit 848 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 5: it's kind of Miami International Auto Drone, which nobody knows 849 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 5: nor should they, But it's to be an actual thing. 850 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 5: It's to be a place where people come and they 851 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 5: can they can express their cars with their bikes or 852 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 5: whatever it may be. That it's a motor racing you know, 853 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 5: epicenter and really base it around it. 854 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,760 Speaker 4: One of the most dynamic communities and cities in the world. 855 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 1: So what is the culture of the car culture like 856 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: in Miami. I've only been on a motorcycle down there. 857 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 1: I imagine there's some big supercars. You say it's bifur 858 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: kate to tell us about it. 859 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 5: I'll give the best example I can give you is 860 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,439 Speaker 5: you'll roll down to get ice cream with your kids 861 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 5: on Friday night and you'll pull into a parking lot 862 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,919 Speaker 5: on like a side of a strip malk because we're 863 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,240 Speaker 5: in Florida and there's just like a mini car convention 864 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 5: going on. And then you go down the street and 865 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 5: there's like another one in a little group of people 866 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 5: park together with their corvettes, and then there's another down 867 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 5: the street that it's like a little bit of a 868 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 5: bike rally, and it's very community based. It's not necessarily 869 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 5: mass market, but it's very brand driven, brand specific. But 870 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 5: there are groups of car enthusiasts who are getting together, 871 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 5: who are driving, and who are passionate about their cars. 872 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 5: I just think we're not necessarily overtly tapping into that. 873 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 2: The thing that I find about Miami with car culture 874 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 2: is it's a little bit more hidden. Like there's not 875 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 2: great driving in Miami. Of course you can drive over 876 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 2: the bridges and tell me if you disagree, but I 877 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,720 Speaker 2: don't find amazing driving roads. But like, if you're looped 878 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 2: into whatever car tribe you love, you kind of just 879 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 2: hear word of mouth. Hey we're meeting here, Hey we're 880 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 2: going to drive here. Hey we're going to do this 881 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 2: Saturday morning or Friday night. You just have to keep 882 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 2: your ear to the ground. It's not obvious, but once 883 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 2: you get tapped in it's everywhere. 884 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that is accurate, Hannah, and I do 885 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 5: think we have the opportunity to get in the middle 886 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 5: of that, right, I mean, if we could ever get 887 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 5: this create a situation where we are a place where 888 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,879 Speaker 5: you can come and drive, you are a place where 889 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 5: we could open up portions of our circuit to give 890 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 5: it that place where you can come and get an 891 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 5: experience in in your car that is different from what 892 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:00,879 Speaker 5: you're get on your daily drive. 893 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 4: I think it's an opportunity for us. That's that certainly 894 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 4: how we see it. 895 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: By the way, to just digress a little, Hannah, you 896 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: spend so much time in New York, so much time 897 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 1: in la you spend a lot of time in Miami 898 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: as well. Do you see very different car cultures in 899 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: different regions of this country? 900 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,439 Speaker 2: Definitely? Yeah, yeah, Yeah. New York is actually I would 901 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,959 Speaker 2: say the most die hard because New York is such 902 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 2: a difficult place to have a special car, whether it's 903 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 2: an old car or a new car. If it's a 904 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 2: special car, it's really difficult. It's expensive, the weather's horrible there. 905 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 2: You don't want to bring it in the city really, 906 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 2: but then maybe you want to. I mean there are 907 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 2: a lot of logistical issues. It's tough for finding mechanics, 908 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 2: it's tough for finding parts, the whole thing. So like 909 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 2: New York is really die hard. Those are people who 910 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 2: are going to suffer for the love of cars. In 911 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 2: southern California, it's really easy, like you can pick up 912 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 2: any old car. It's almost like too much, like you 913 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 2: find yourself coming in contact with old stuff and cool stuff. 914 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 2: It's like too easy to acquire cars. Space is not 915 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 2: an issue whether it's good. There are mechanics on every corner. 916 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 2: Like it's just so easy and lazy. But it's also 917 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 2: the center of the car world. I mean, Mercedes just 918 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 2: had their biggest launch in a couple of years here 919 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 2: last night. And then Miami and Tyler tell me what 920 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:26,240 Speaker 2: you think. But I since a really exciting and cool 921 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 2: South American contingent that keep cars in Miami. Like when 922 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:38,240 Speaker 2: I've been Argentina and Mexico City and other places in Mexico, 923 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:43,280 Speaker 2: the wealthy collectors that I've spoken with all keep cars 924 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,839 Speaker 2: in Miami. Maybe they don't live in Miami full time, 925 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 2: but they keep a lot of things in Miami. The 926 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 2: vibe is just extremely international, way more international than La feels, 927 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 2: which I love about my I love how international and 928 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 2: in tune with the world's car culture that Miami feels 929 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 2: to me. Big Porsche community in Miami like massive. I 930 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 2: was just at DRT and then there's a big Porscha 931 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 2: thing at Mode of Miami too, So. 932 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 5: That's a huge Porsche contingent, huge Ferrari contingent, you know, 933 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 5: I was. I was fortunate enough to have dinner last 934 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,320 Speaker 5: week with John Hennessy and I had such an interesting 935 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 5: conversation with him about where his customers are and where 936 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 5: his customers are growing. And he has a huge number 937 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 5: of customers in South Florida and then up and down 938 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 5: the Florida coast. So and I think when you start 939 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 5: to get the Hennessy collector and the Bugatti collector mixed 940 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 5: in with the Ferrari collector, mixed in with the Porsche ficionado, like, 941 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 5: that's so Miami. And you're exactly right, that Latin American 942 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 5: influence is so real. And there are some amazing private 943 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 5: collections here, yes, that you would never know you drive 944 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,359 Speaker 5: it right by, you know, you drive on too Scaying 945 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 5: Boulevard and there's you know, here's some office building. No, no, 946 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 5: there's one hundred million dollars with the car set in 947 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 5: that building super interesting. 948 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it, and it does feel like it's 949 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 2: like storage portion itself is not flashy or showy. You're 950 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 2: exactly right. You can drive past like just strip mall 951 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 2: looking things and it's wild what's hidden behind. And I 952 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:16,280 Speaker 2: do think like people like curated John Tamaran, John Hennessy 953 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 2: who we just had on as well. You're right, like 954 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 2: the appetite also for not just classic Porsches and stuff, 955 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 2: but like obviously Ferrari's supercars is obviously that's Miami too. 956 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 1: In terms of Porsche, I'll tell people who aren't dedicated 957 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 1: to the brand. DRT stands for dus Rentreffin, which is 958 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 1: the German the race meeting are. 959 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 2: You're a resident German translator. 960 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 1: I also had to look that up because you said 961 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 1: DRT and I was like, what's that, Tyler? What do 962 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: you think the chances are of an American team doing 963 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: well or or an American team like Andretti and Dretti 964 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 1: makes so much sense to me. And I don't really 965 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,919 Speaker 1: know why they weren't allowed to get a team now, 966 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 1: but hopefully they will down the road. I mean, I 967 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 1: feel like that would do more for F one in 968 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,399 Speaker 1: this country than anything else, or an American driver as well. 969 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I mean I think first and foremost we 970 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 5: have one, right, we do have, you know, an American 971 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 5: owned team with has I think the difference isn't a 972 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 5: base here, they don't operate necessarily of the states, but 973 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 5: going through and be quickly quick to correct you in 974 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,839 Speaker 5: the sense that there is an American. 975 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 1: Well, I mean an American team with a German name. 976 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 1: Their headquarters are in England, their drivers and totally fair. 977 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 5: Totally fairly, and we do have you know, we do 978 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,319 Speaker 5: have a local boy, right, I mean logan sergeant, you know, 979 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 5: carrying the flag for the state United States right now 980 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,720 Speaker 5: on the grid. And I know it's been a struggle 981 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 5: a bit, you know, last year and then even earlier 982 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,879 Speaker 5: this year. But he's a Fort Lauderdale kid. I mean, 983 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 5: he's he's from twenty five minutes from our circuit. So 984 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 5: we kind of root for him and have got a great, 985 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 5: great relationship with him and his family. But look, I 986 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 5: can't deny that the opportunity for continued American influence, both 987 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,720 Speaker 5: in ownership and behind the wheel. I think there's multiple 988 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 5: examples in other sports of having that strong American presence. 989 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 5: But I would say this, I think just having an 990 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 5: American own team or an American behind the wheel doesn't 991 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 5: also ensure growth in America, right. I think we have 992 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 5: an obligation as a stakeholder in the sport to continue 993 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 5: to cultivate the experience at the racetrack. Make sure the 994 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 5: broadcast is fantastic and interesting, to make sure that the 995 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 5: racing is fantastic, to make sure the storytelling around what's 996 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,800 Speaker 5: actually happening inside the paddock is broadcasting the way that 997 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,280 Speaker 5: people can absorb. 998 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,240 Speaker 4: So look, we're always. 999 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 5: For growth, We're always for continued opportunity, and certainly we 1000 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 5: care a lot about the USF one fan. I'm just 1001 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 5: not sure it's quite that simple. You know, if the 1002 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 5: Andreds were to get a team all of a sudden, 1003 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,360 Speaker 5: our business spikes immediately. Certainly we're supportive of Mariy, Michael 1004 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 5: and Dan Towers and everybody on that team, but I 1005 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 5: wish it was that linear. 1006 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 4: I'm just not sure it is. 1007 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 2: Tyler. I'm curious do you have any best practices or 1008 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 2: hacks that you can share with people in terms of 1009 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 2: going to Formula one races? I mean you see, it's 1010 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 2: how it is from the inside out. And as someone 1011 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 2: who has been to races and of them, I also 1012 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 2: hate and dread the logistics of it. It's like always 1013 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,359 Speaker 2: painful parking and walking and trying to find where to. 1014 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,280 Speaker 1: Go, like trying to find a good help. 1015 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 2: Us, Yeah, just help us, like tell us how to 1016 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 2: hack a Formula one race or Miami specifically, so it's 1017 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,320 Speaker 2: not so painful. 1018 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 5: The first hack is to not be what we are 1019 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 5: traditionally as impatient customers, right, like, embrace the fact that 1020 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 5: this isn't a two hour thing. You're not getting in 1021 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 5: and out, this isn't a hockey game, You're going to 1022 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 5: have a day of it, right, and and embrace. 1023 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,399 Speaker 2: That embrace recalibrate, Yeah, you have. 1024 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 4: To almost recalibrate exactly what's real there. Right, So that's 1025 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 4: the first thing. 1026 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 5: And again we've we've now had the fourth opportunity to 1027 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 5: go all over the world and do this, right, So 1028 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,720 Speaker 5: I think there's no hack. 1029 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:48,359 Speaker 4: The only hack is. 1030 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,359 Speaker 2: A helicopter because the promoter. 1031 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 5: Knows you and can get you in a different way. 1032 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,799 Speaker 5: And there's a couple of hacks in the Middle East, 1033 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 5: but those guys can take care of you really well, But. 1034 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 1: Well, Tyler, what about if you were going to the 1035 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,839 Speaker 1: race and you you didn't run it, and you didn't 1036 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 1: know anybody involved, where would you sit to see? Yeah, 1037 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,239 Speaker 1: with the best for the best goal of the action, 1038 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 1: because you can always only see like one or two 1039 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 1: corners right, and that's always my problem. I end up 1040 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:14,880 Speaker 1: wanting to get up and move around, and then I 1041 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,839 Speaker 1: miss the whole race. So where would you sit? 1042 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 5: I'm going to give you two answers, but they're connected. 1043 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 5: So I would sit on the far west end of 1044 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 5: the start finished grandstand, in the highest corner I could get, 1045 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 5: because in our grand stand you can look over the 1046 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 5: backside or around the corner. You can see the cars 1047 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 5: going into seventeen around eighteen into nineteen. The finish line 1048 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 5: is right in front of you, and right to your 1049 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,879 Speaker 5: left is a starting grid, so you get a good 1050 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 5: chunk of the racetrack. You also get pit in. You 1051 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,799 Speaker 5: also get pit lane, and I think it's it's just 1052 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 5: a beautiful area of the racetrack. So it's shaded and 1053 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 5: to be my favorite spot. But I wouldn't sit there 1054 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,720 Speaker 5: the whole time. I'm like you, like, I would wander 1055 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 5: our campus, right, I would get to see the different spots. 1056 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 5: There are viewing decks all over our race circuit, and 1057 00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 5: this is something that we're trying to get people to do. 1058 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,279 Speaker 4: But like, go up inside the stadium. 1059 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,279 Speaker 5: Both the south helixes are open, go up to the 1060 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,359 Speaker 5: top and get a view from up there because you 1061 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 5: see both different ends of the racetrack from there. 1062 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,240 Speaker 4: The only thing you really can't see from those. 1063 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 5: Two ends of the front stretch, which is where I'd 1064 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 5: be sitting on the start finished grandstand, and I can't 1065 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,439 Speaker 5: see all the way to the beach, right. But other 1066 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 5: than that, I'm going to go get four or five 1067 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 5: different locations every day to see the car is handling 1068 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:24,839 Speaker 5: differently nice well. 1069 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,720 Speaker 1: Getting into the pits or getting a tour of pit lane. 1070 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,720 Speaker 1: Is that possible for a regular person or. 1071 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 5: Pits are harder? I mean, pit lane and the powder 1072 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 5: are controlled by f one. You know, It's funny because 1073 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 5: you know my early days in NASCAR, pit lane's open, 1074 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,240 Speaker 5: you know, or at least it is for a portion 1075 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:41,920 Speaker 5: of the day. 1076 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 4: I mean, I remember one of. 1077 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 5: The first years I went to Daytona, there were people 1078 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 5: like running around on the racetrack and I'm like, fans, 1079 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 5: what spectators fans running around the racetrack and I'm like, 1080 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,799 Speaker 5: what is happening And it turns out like this is 1081 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,319 Speaker 5: something that they do, like they that's how they get 1082 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 5: to their seats. It's an open pit lane. I mean, 1083 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 5: it's amazing and look good. Good for them. That unfortunately 1084 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 5: is not necessarily the crystal relevance of a Formula one 1085 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 5: in this particular case. So but I will say that 1086 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 5: we really work hard to try to make sure that 1087 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,399 Speaker 5: we are one of the only circuits that offer your 1088 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 5: general admission campus pass. 1089 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,320 Speaker 4: Buy or a view of the paddock. 1090 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,800 Speaker 5: You have a view of kind of getting into the 1091 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 5: garage is a little bit and seeing what those team 1092 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:22,440 Speaker 5: hospitalities look like. 1093 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 4: We had a group sitting in in the three. 1094 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 5: Hundred levels of stadium under a shaded area that was 1095 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 5: camped out there last year, and every time a Ferrari 1096 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 5: driver would walk by, they would start cheering. And it 1097 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,959 Speaker 5: got to the place where every time Leclaria of Saints 1098 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,320 Speaker 5: would walk anywhere, they'd look up and they'd wave, and 1099 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 5: so I mean, it's they're cool little moments that I 1100 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,719 Speaker 5: think people connect to. But you're doing it from a 1101 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,280 Speaker 5: bit away before, You're not getting into the paddock Campus 1102 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 5: pass ticket. 1103 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 1: All right, so the weather I imagine will be fine. Right, 1104 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 1: it's not going to be beautiful. Cult what tires do 1105 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 1: you think everyone's going to choose? Do you have that 1106 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 1: kind of inside knowledge? 1107 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think we know yet. 1108 00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 5: One of the pieces of feedback we did last year 1109 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 5: and again, and Steve and Tom were super supportive and 1110 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,320 Speaker 5: letting us kind of resurface the top lift of the 1111 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,319 Speaker 5: racetrack last year because you weren't happy with. 1112 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 4: How it performed. 1113 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 5: And then we came back with a brand new slick 1114 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,799 Speaker 5: racetrack going into year two. So we basically had a 1115 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,840 Speaker 5: brand new racetrack in year one, a brand new racetrack 1116 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 5: again on the top lifting year too, and some of 1117 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 5: the complaints we got, what were you know, you have 1118 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,280 Speaker 5: to give us some rubber, like, lay. 1119 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 4: Some rubber down for us. 1120 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,839 Speaker 5: So as part of the reason why we added extra 1121 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 5: support series this year. So we have F one Academy coming. 1122 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 5: We also have Poors Career Cup cars back and they're 1123 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 5: running before F one hits the racetrack on Friday. So 1124 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 5: we're gonna lay some rubber down and see if we 1125 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 5: can try to improve some of the way that the 1126 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,839 Speaker 5: race cars are handling. My gut tells me it's still 1127 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,319 Speaker 5: a newer racetrack, So I think it'll race even better 1128 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 5: than it did last year when we were happy with 1129 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 5: that race last year. But I think you'll have the 1130 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 5: opportunity to see some more competitive on track action. Look, 1131 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,799 Speaker 5: the softer tires are probably always going to a lot better. 1132 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 5: My guess is the mediums will be the tire choice 1133 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:53,879 Speaker 5: for everybody here. 1134 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 3: I could lay down some rubber there. 1135 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,319 Speaker 2: My challenge as a surface yeah, just you know it's 1136 00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 2: your good. 1137 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 4: Just you know it's unity service man. You appreciate exactly. 1138 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,759 Speaker 2: What are you doing for traffic control? You know in 1139 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 2: some of the areas around the track. I know that 1140 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,399 Speaker 2: was an issue in previous years with the residents being 1141 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,160 Speaker 2: concerned about traffic control. 1142 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, so the residents have really been I mean, look, rightfully, 1143 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 5: so they were concerned about it heading into the race, 1144 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 5: and we've never done it before. We're closing off a 1145 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,879 Speaker 5: turnpike access road and an actual turnpike exit in order 1146 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 5: to pull this off, so it rightfully be worried about it. 1147 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 5: We've tried to be very cooperative. Generally, We've had fantastic 1148 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 5: support within the community. I think there are a couple 1149 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,319 Speaker 5: of things that we've learned. Number one is we're used 1150 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 5: to running big time sixty five thousand person stadium events. 1151 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 5: At hard Rock Stadium, right, we have thousands of spaces 1152 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 5: on site. We park most of the people on site. 1153 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:45,840 Speaker 5: They come, they park their car, they go to the stadium, 1154 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 5: they get in the car, and they leave. We're different, 1155 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 5: right where from an F one perspective, where all those 1156 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 5: people are parking for F one, we have hospitality areas 1157 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 5: and grandstand spaces, right, so we have actually fairly limited 1158 00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,240 Speaker 5: parking actually on site. 1159 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 4: What we found though, is is the. 1160 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 5: Opportunity for us to like really focus on creating really 1161 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 5: good access to bussing has been a huge win for us. 1162 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:08,839 Speaker 4: Right. 1163 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,839 Speaker 5: So we put a lot of time, a lot of 1164 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 5: effort into our bussing systems, and we've got a full 1165 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 5: on bus depot on the east side of our campus. 1166 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 4: It's easy and easy out. 1167 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 5: We've got a good friend of mine took the bus 1168 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 5: route the first year. He hates buses, hates the concept 1169 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:25,719 Speaker 5: of them, doesn't want to get out of his own car. 1170 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 5: He's like, you know, but I said you should take 1171 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 5: a look at it. He wanted to be a part 1172 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,440 Speaker 5: of the beach. So we went down there, got a ticket, 1173 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,839 Speaker 5: jumped on the bus after the race. He was home 1174 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 5: in like thirty eight minutes. 1175 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 2: Wow. 1176 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 4: After the race, he left right after the race, was 1177 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:39,640 Speaker 4: home in thirty eight minutes. 1178 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 5: And part of it, I think was just because we 1179 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,240 Speaker 5: put so much effort into like a system that pushed 1180 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 5: the cars away from the racetrack right the more cars 1181 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 5: you have shoving into the area right outside where people 1182 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 5: are trying to leave, that's where the congestion comes from. 1183 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,360 Speaker 5: So we've worked really hard to keep the lots that 1184 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 5: are close by easy and walkable and a safe opportunity 1185 00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 5: for our fans to get home. Anything that's you know, 1186 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,959 Speaker 5: more than a mile away, you hop on a bus 1187 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,239 Speaker 5: and you get there. And that's honestly been one of 1188 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,040 Speaker 5: our most successful, you know, traffic mitigation efforts. 1189 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,799 Speaker 1: So being a part of the beach makes me think 1190 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,440 Speaker 1: about the other things to do down there. What are 1191 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,000 Speaker 1: the parties or the restaurants or the events that you 1192 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 1: would tell people to go to other than just the 1193 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 1: race when they're coming down for the weekend. Can do 1194 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,239 Speaker 1: you have like a top two or three I think one. 1195 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,360 Speaker 5: Of the best events of the weekend is Carbone Beach. 1196 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 5: You know what major food group does to put on 1197 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 5: It's a four day, four night almost's really almost a festival, 1198 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 5: and it is fantastic food, fantastic entertainment. I would highlight 1199 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 5: that I think a lot of the activations that the 1200 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,439 Speaker 5: teams do. Red Bull always does a really good job 1201 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,839 Speaker 5: can Spot each year and they come in and put 1202 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,400 Speaker 5: together really really great activations. But I would tell you 1203 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,640 Speaker 5: that almost everything beach side there's something going on almost everywhere. 1204 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,919 Speaker 5: Hollywood does a big beach festival, Miami Beach does a big, 1205 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,680 Speaker 5: big beach festival. There is action all up and down 1206 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,320 Speaker 5: the beach side, so you can't miss heading east. 1207 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,160 Speaker 2: I know Ferrari's going to have some debuts too. 1208 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,359 Speaker 5: As far as you got big news, yeah, I watch 1209 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 5: on Thursday night, I believe, and the cavalcades coming from 1210 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 5: Nashville and so there'll be a big, big contingent for 1211 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,800 Speaker 5: our contingent here. And we become very close with a 1212 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 5: lot of their key people, so they've been a great 1213 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,359 Speaker 5: partner and looking forward to doing more with them down 1214 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 5: the road. 1215 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,280 Speaker 1: Awesome, well, I'm looking forward to watching the race. Tyler. 1216 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,600 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. And I know 1217 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 1: you're going to be the busiest beaver that there ever was, 1218 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 1: So I wish you good luck to getting through it 1219 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 1: and hope you can relax a little after. 1220 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:29,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks for the time, Mount and Hannah. Great to 1221 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,800 Speaker 5: be with you and appreciate all your support. We'll hopefully 1222 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 5: have a great weekend. 1223 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,239 Speaker 2: What are you doing this weekend? Matt? 1224 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,160 Speaker 3: I don't have any plans this weekend. 1225 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:38,960 Speaker 2: Actually you're not driving? No cars? 1226 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 1: No, Actually I have a break from there's no press cars, 1227 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: so I'm ripping it up in my Dodge Challenger RT 1228 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 1: scat pack whatever and it's it's a blast to drive base. 1229 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,319 Speaker 2: You know, just ground yourself. You need to come off 1230 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 2: that high that you had this emotional roller coaster. 1231 00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,360 Speaker 1: It really took me like a solid twenty four hours 1232 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 1: to get over that. It was incredible. But yeah, I 1233 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,000 Speaker 1: don't have any plans this weekend. What about you? 1234 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,440 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to Spain to drive that Acid Martin Vantage. 1235 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 2: What Yeah, that'll so that'll be fun. 1236 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,239 Speaker 1: Seville, Oh my god is it? 1237 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:14,879 Speaker 2: Where's mary U's people from? 1238 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 1: Well, she's from Pamplona and her people are in bill 1239 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,320 Speaker 1: Bao and Valencia. But we love Sevilla or as the 1240 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:26,280 Speaker 1: Americans call it correctly, Seville. We absolutely love it there. 1241 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:30,919 Speaker 1: You can see some amazing flamenco performances while you're there. Yes, 1242 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 1: oh I want to do that and I bet you will. 1243 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 1: And the other thing is it's a great place to 1244 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 1: start a trip to Spain because you can go from 1245 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 1: there to Cordoba, to Granada, to Ronda. Just some of 1246 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,520 Speaker 1: the most amazing places for me in Spain. 1247 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 3: And I'm so jealous. 1248 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 2: So this is really good to know because I've got 1249 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:55,959 Speaker 2: another car invite in June that's a pretty exciting one 1250 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,280 Speaker 2: that's also in Spain, and I want to take a 1251 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,960 Speaker 2: few extra days after that to just have some holiday. 1252 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,760 Speaker 2: So I'm going to ask you for your recommendations. 1253 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I have a lotch it's one of my 1254 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 1: favorite places to go. Well, that's awesome. The Asin Martin Vantage, 1255 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,520 Speaker 1: that's the new one, and I think it's gorgeous. 1256 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we'll see. They kind of like Asin 1257 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 2: Martin needs to get some profitability under its belt. The 1258 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 2: cars are really expensive and they're not living up to 1259 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 2: the pricing. Very interesting to see if this one actually 1260 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,480 Speaker 2: helps sort of get some momentum going in the right direction. 1261 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm looking forward to hearing about the 1262 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 1: trip and the car, so I guess you can tell 1263 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,440 Speaker 1: us about that on our next episode, same time, same place. 1264 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 1: That does it. 1265 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 3: For today. 1266 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,560 Speaker 2: I'm Matt Miller and I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is 1267 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:39,120 Speaker 2: Bluebird